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Now I know last week when we started
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talking about gout and crystals, it brought about
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imagery of people who are trying to sell
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you various things on social media that are
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going to help you manifest all kinds of
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things. Try this gemstone and it'll help you
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gain money. Put this stone in your car
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and it'll help your car run better. All
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of that stuff is nothing more than just
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hocus pocus. But when I talk about crystals,
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for many of us it also brings up
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thoughts of science fiction, especially the Sorcerer's Stone
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and of course Harry Potter. And no, we're
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not going to be talking about Nicholas Flamel
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this week. What we're going to be discussing
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is the role of crystals once again. Now
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this is our next episode in the Crystals
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series. Last week we talked about those negatively
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birefringent needle-shaped crystals in gout. This week we're
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going to be talking about the clinical manifestations
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of calcium pyrophosphate crystal deposition. In other words,
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pseudogout. So there's gout and then there's pseudogout.
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I'm Dr. Niket Sonpal, your friendly-neighbor internist and
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gastroenterologist. So let's kick off that music. I
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wonder if Justin Bieber listens to this podcast.
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Maybe he can remix it for us. That's
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okay. Play it anyway. Now
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when I mention pseudogout to people, they think we're
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crazy in healthcare. We've got one disease that's
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gout and it affected kings and now it's
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affecting regular people. And then we decided to
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name something pseudogout. Well the term isn't
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as commonly used anymore. The term calcium
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pyrophosphate crystal deposition is the appropriate term
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for the disease. Calling it pseudogout is
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just a little bit easier. So
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how common is pseudogout if regular gout is
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not that common to begin with? Well calcium
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pyrophosphate disease is estimated to affect about 4
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to 10% of the populations in
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Europe and the United States. What we know is
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that it gets worse as we get older in
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age. In fact, the prevalence
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of finding calcium pyrophosphate disease on radiographs
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actually increases significantly. They looked at one
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study that looked at people between 65
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and 75. It
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was about 15%. And 75% to
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85, 36 percent. And in
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more than 85 years of old age, well,
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it was about 50 percent. Now we know
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it's not more common in men or more
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common in women. It's actually pretty equal unlike
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regular gout. And there are some ideas of
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why it occurs. We know it has something
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to do with chondrocytes and a lot of
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calcium crystal deposition. It's a theory, but let me
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get into it. Now the exact
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mechanism is not totally understood. We know
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that increased breakdown of ATP, that's right,
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the energy for all things is actually
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increasing pyrophosphate levels in the joints. That's
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because joints move a lot and that
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could be one reason why crystals develop.
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We also know that there's a gene
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called the ANKH gene that's also involved.
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And when you put all these factors
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along with some idiopathic things, we don't
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totally understand right now along with trauma
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and some metabolic and endocrine disorders that
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are very commonly associated specifically hemochromatosis and
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hyperperiferidism, it actually leads to
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calcium pyrophosphate crystal formations in
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the chondrocytes. Then what
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ends up happening is that you
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end up getting excessive cartilage pyrophosphate
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production. This leads to supersaturation. When
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you get supersaturated areas, crystals form,
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deposit, and then start beating up
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on the joints. And that, my
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friends, is calcium pyrophosphate crystal deposition
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disease and what we like to
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call pseudo-gout. Now many of
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you are like, well that's great. I really
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don't care about the pathophysiology, especially if it's
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just a theory and we don't totally understand
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it, and especially if most causes are idiopathic.
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So how are these patients going to present?
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Well, let's kind of go over it. First
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of all, you're going to have some patients
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who are just simply asymptomatic. They may have
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some chondrocalcinosis that are found on x-rays and
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they're just found incidentally. And there are going
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to be other patients who are going to
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actually present like Al, where they're going to
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have self-limited acute or subacute attacks of calcium
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pyrophosphate crystal arthritis. So let's talk about how that's going
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to present. You see, the presentation
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and the actual clinical manifestations of how pseudo-gout
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presents is why it got that name. It
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presented identically to gout, and so everyone thought
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it was uric acid. But then, when they
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looked at the crystals, it was a little
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bit of a bit different. So
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they would present with severe acute inflammation in
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the joint, it wouldn't move well, it was
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painful to move, there was intense pain, just
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throbbing, redness, warmth, and a lot of swelling.
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The knee actually is where it differs. It's
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actually affected in over 50% of
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cases, whereas when we talked about in
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gout, it's the first big toe or
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the metatarsophalangeal joint. The other major difference
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between gout and pseudogout is that calcium
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pyrophosphate disease actually lasted longer for one
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to two weeks. And when you see
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a patient who comes in with knee,
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wrist, elbow, or shoulder pain as their first
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attack, you want to start thinking calcium pyrophosphate
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over gout, but remember like we talked about
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last week, these are just the most common.
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Now you might be thinking that's
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a lot of overlap. Well, there's some
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more. Now you know that there's chronic
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gout, well there's also chronic calcium pyrophosphate
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crystal deposition disease, and it's called pseudo-rheumatoid
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arthritis. Now what the reason for that
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is basically there's morning stiffness, fatigue, edema,
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and restricted joint motions. Patients
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who also have osteoarthritis with calcium pyrophosphate disease
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can also manifest another form of it in
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which they have long-term osteoarthritis with joint breakdown,
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and it's most commonly in the knees followed
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by the wrists. However, for the purpose of
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this podcast, we're primarily going to be talking
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about patients who have acute calcium pyrophosphate deposition
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disease and what to do next. So at
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this point, you know how they're going to
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present. They're going to look identical to the
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patients who have gout. Instead of the big
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toe, it's going to be the knee. But
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what are you going to do about it
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in terms of diagnostics? Well, let's jump into
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it. Now if you remember your
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basics of radiology, you remember that calcium
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things light up like Christmas tree lights
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on an X-ray. Well, it turns out
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that here, it's the same case. But
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that conjo-calcinosis in terms of diagnostic evaluation
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and using conventional X-rays isn't going to
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be your best initial test. Your best
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initial test is going to be the
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clinical findings and features that are going
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to be what we talked about before,
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but the most accurate test, believe it
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or not, is a joint arthrocentesis. Yep,
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that's exactly right. You're going to do
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a synovial fluid analysis. And what you're
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going to look for are going to
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be the findings of calcium. calcium pyrophosphate
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crystals which are actually now positively birefringent
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on compensated polarized light microscopy. In addition
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to that, the white blood cell count
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can range from 10 to 150,000 with
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a nucleophilipid
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dominance, so white counts are pretty unhelpful. The
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other basic reason of why you want to
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do an actual joint tap is because you
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want to rule out needle-shaped crystals and make
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sure that it's actually not gout. You
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see, the calcium pyrophosphate crystals are harder
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to find. The reason why is because
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they're actually pretty small. They're actually weakly
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positively birefringent or not birefringent at all,
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unlike the actual gouty ones which are
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negatively birefringent and light up like crazy.
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And they're also rod-shaped and rhomboid form.
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Some even say they look like little
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envelopes. It's cute, right? But the fact
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of the matter is, is you're looking
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for these different types of crystals. Once
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you have it, you've got your patient's diagnosis. Now
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you might be thinking, but hey, cartilage is
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calcified. Shouldn't we do x-rays? Well, it turns
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out that you can actually use x-rays to
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look for degenerative joint diseases and to see
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if they have any chondrocalcinosis. But remember, it's
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going to be a clinical diagnosis supported by
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the most accurate test, which is joint tap.
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Then you're going to support your diagnosis with
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diagnostic imaging to see if there's any joint
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breakdown and if you need to continue to
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monitor the patients for any involvement in those
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areas. Now, at this point, you've
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pretty much got your diagnosis set. You know
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that this person is dealing with an acute
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crisis of calcium pyrophosphate crystal arthritis. And so
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now you've got to start helping them with
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some symptomatic relief and anti-inflammatories to help them
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get through this episode. The first thing you're
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going to recommend is an application of ice
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or cool packs to the affected joints and
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then rest the area for three to four
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days. This is going to involve things like
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removing weight-bearing activity, maybe even immobilization, and possibly
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even elevating the limb or the joint that's
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affected. Now you'll notice we don't do a
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lot of that with regular gout. And the reason why
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is because this can be a bit longer of an
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extended course. Once that's taken care of
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and you've done your joint aspiration and you've confirmed
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that this is not a septic joint, what you're
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really worried about here is actually a crystal arthritis.
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Your next step is to ask yourself, well, how
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many joints are affected? According to the
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current guidelines and algorithms that are proposed, it
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actually says that if it's one or two
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joints, and these are the kind of joints
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that can get arthrocentesis and an injection of
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glucocorticoids, then you want to go ahead and
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do that and inject the joints. If there
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are hard joints to use, or there's multiple
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joints, like if it's a knuckle or something,
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then you probably want to avoid injecting steroids,
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and then you want to ask yourself, well,
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hey, can this patient take some oral medications?
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And then you have the options of using
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either colchicines, NSAIDs, or glucocorticoids. There isn't really
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a lot of great evidence to decide which
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one is going to come first, but there
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is a little bit of an algorithm that
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helps you say, well, what to do if
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these don't work and what comes next? Now,
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if the patient, for some reason, is unable
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to take oral medications, and they're of that
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variety where they also can't get joint injections,
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let's say it's multiple joints, then these patients
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are that subset of population that are going
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to require either IV or intramuscular glucocorticoids, but
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again, that's a rare circumstance. The majority of
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your patients are going to have a single
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joint, you're going to aspirate, make sure it's
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calcium-powered phosphate disease, that's not a septic joint,
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and you're probably going to inject with some
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steroids. If, however, they have some recurrence or
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multiple, multiple joints affected, then you're probably going
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to try them on either colchicine, NSAIDs, or
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oral steroids. Now, I know what
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you're going to say, well, what if those
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agents don't work? Well, let's say you injected
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the joint. If it didn't work or they're
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still having ongoing persistent symptoms or it's worsening,
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then you can try one of the three
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medications. If they've taken colchicine and it's not
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working, switch to NSAIDs or add on oral
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glucocorticoids. If you gave them NSAIDs, then add
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on colchicine or switch to the oral steroids.
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And if you gave them oral glucocorticoids and
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it's not working, you can add on colchicine
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or you can switch the route of how
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you give the glucocorticoids and add on colchicine.
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Now, if you have one of those
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patients who has pretty severe refractory symptoms
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and they can't take oral medications and
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you've tried intravenous glucocorticoids and you've tried
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everything, then these are some patients who
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are going to want to try to use
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the interleukin-1 inhibitors like anakinra. The good
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news is that it's rare to have disease that's super
9:55
refractory. Most patients start to feel better within 48 to
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72 hours of initiation. Now
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what if you have a patient who comes in and they
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tell you, well I've had three or more attacks of this
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pseudo-gout. What have I got to do? For
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these patients, you're going to start them on prophylactic
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therapy. We talked about it with a regular gout
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where they're going to get alopurinol or one of
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the other medications. When it comes to pseudo-gout, they
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get prophylactic therapy with colchicine. This is going to
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be started if they have more than three episodes
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a year. Now if they can't
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tolerate colchicine, let's say they have a contraindication
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to it, or they're just intolerant of it
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because of the ongoing diarrhea. Remember what I
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told you guys last week, when patients used
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to get colchicine back in the day and
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we didn't have standardized pills, they would take
10:34
enough until they developed diarrhea. That was the
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therapeutic dose. But the alternative agent, if you
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can't tolerate the actual colchicine, is going to
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be NSAIDs. Now the last
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little bit of care when it comes
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to calcium pyrophosphate disease is to remember
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that even though most people have idiopathic
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forms, if they have some associated diseases
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like let's say hyperparathyroidism, or let's
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say for example hemochromatosis, you also want
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to get them to those disease modifying
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treatment algorithms and get them to the
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right consultants to manage those diseases as
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well. Because treating them is just as
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equally as important as treating the chronic
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and acute calcium pyrophosphate disease. And
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with that, ladies and gentlemen, brings us to the end of
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this podcast. I'm Dr. Nick Hessenpaul, your friendly neighborhood
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internist and gastroenterologist, and that brings us to
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the end of this series on crystal. I'll
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see you next week. Thank
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you.
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