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Have you ever felt like escaping to your
0:02
own desert island? Jane Gaskin did
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exactly that, trading in the family home
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to begin a new life in the
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tropics. But she soon discovers
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that Paradise has its secrets. I'm
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Alice Levine, and this is The Price
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of Paradise. The island dream
0:19
that ends in kidnap, corruption
0:21
and murder. Wish you were here?
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Follow The Price of Paradise now, wherever
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you listen to podcasts. You're
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listening to the Men's Raya podcast, and
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this is the story of Derek
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Benson. Just
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before 3am on Saturday,
1:02
May 13th, in the
1:05
year 2000, a call came in
1:07
to Dublin Fire Brigade, about
1:17
a fire at a unit in the
1:19
four-storey Sandy Hill Avenue apartment complex in
1:21
Ballymon, on the north side of Dublin
1:23
City. The alarm was
1:26
raised after Claire Keeley, a resident of
1:28
the building, heard screaming and noticed smoke
1:30
billowing from one of the second-storey flats.
1:33
Three fire engines were dispatched to
1:35
the scene along with two ambulances.
1:38
Upon arrival, firefighters found the
1:40
flash filled with thick smoke.
1:43
In the main bedroom, they discovered
1:45
the body of 33-year-old Derek Benson.
1:48
First responders initially assumed that he
1:50
had succumbed to injuries sustained in
1:52
the inferno. But as the
1:54
flames were subdued, it became clear that
1:56
Benson's death had nothing to do with
1:58
the fire. His body was
2:01
covered in blood and he had
2:03
clear signs of significant trauma, prompting
2:05
the fireman to summon Garde to the
2:07
scene. Benson was taken by
2:10
ambulance to the Matter Hospital, but
2:12
due to the extent of his injuries he
2:14
was pronounced dead on arrival. Derek
2:17
Benson was already known to Garde.
2:20
The father of one was a
2:22
small-time drug dealer with a reputation for
2:24
having a volatile nature and as the
2:27
brutality of his injuries became clear, officers
2:29
started to wonder if his death could
2:31
be somehow related to his criminal
2:33
activities. A full murder inquiry
2:36
was launched and within 24 hours a team of
2:38
50 officers were on the
2:40
hunt for Benson's killer. Officers
2:42
wasted no time canvassing his neighbors
2:44
for any information that could shed
2:47
more light on the events surrounding
2:49
his death. But as
2:51
the details of the savage killing began
2:53
to emerge, they found their investigation
2:55
hampered by swirling rumors. A
2:58
post-mortem was performed by state pathologist Dr.
3:00
Mary Cassidy, who found that Derek's body
3:03
was covered in knife wounds from head
3:05
to toe. One incision to
3:07
the neck was so deep that it
3:09
cut through to the cervical spine, almost
3:11
decapitating him. A number
3:14
of wounds in his trunk had originated
3:16
in the chest and gone the whole
3:18
way through his body, exiting out the
3:20
back. In total, Dr.
3:23
Cassidy counted 85 cutting
3:25
wounds and she ultimately concluded that
3:27
Derek Benson's cause of death was
3:29
due to multiple wounds from a
3:31
blade. The Irish media
3:33
was already in a heightened state at
3:35
the time as three young Irishmen had
3:37
been brutally killed in a similar fashion
3:39
in the Netherlands two weeks before and
3:42
many people were now wondering if the
3:44
attack on Derek Benson was some kind
3:46
of copycat killing to address
3:48
these concerns. A press conference was
3:50
called by Superintendent Albert Tracy, who
3:52
was leading the investigation. He assured
3:55
the gathered media that this was no
3:57
copycat killing and Benson's death bore no
4:00
resemblance to the three that had occurred
4:02
in the Hague. Superintendent
4:04
Tracey went on to appeal to the public
4:06
for help in solving the murder, asking
4:09
that anyone who may have seen anything suspicious
4:11
in the area around the time of the
4:13
fire to come forward. He
4:16
noted that they were still in
4:18
the very early stages of the
4:20
investigation and were not following a
4:22
definite line of inquiry. Despite Gardi
4:24
stressing that they could find no
4:26
connection between Benson's criminal activities and
4:28
his death, Irish media outlets continued
4:30
to run wild with rumour, comparing
4:32
Benson's death to the killings in
4:35
the Hague. Meanwhile, officers
4:37
from the Garda Ballistics section commenced
4:39
an examination of the apartment. Garda
4:42
Tom Carey noted heavy smoke and scorch
4:44
marks on the wall and ceiling over
4:46
Derek Benson's bed. A wardrobe
4:49
was toppled over on the bedroom
4:51
floor and upon closer inspection Garda
4:53
Carey saw that the top of
4:55
it had suffered extensive fire damage,
4:57
indicating that an attempt was made
4:59
to set it alight. In
5:02
the second bedroom of the flash,
5:04
investigators found evidence to suggest that
5:06
someone had attempted to light yet
5:08
another fire. Gardi
5:10
were keeping an open mind as they
5:12
continued their investigation on the ground. They
5:14
spoke to Derek Benson's partner,
5:17
Jackie Noble, who told them that she had
5:19
left the flash at around 10 past 1
5:21
that morning to return to her deceased parents'
5:23
house in Nouth Court where she had been
5:26
staying in recent times. This
5:28
gave officers a timeline to work with
5:30
and they appealed for anyone who may
5:32
have seen anything suspicious in the vicinity
5:34
of Sandy Hill Avenue between 10 past
5:36
1 and 10 minutes to
5:38
4 in the early hours of May
5:40
13th to come forward. Given
5:43
the bloody and brutal nature of Derek
5:45
Benson's murder, officers knew that the killer's
5:47
clothing would have been heavily blood spattered
5:49
and they were sure that some residents
5:52
of the apartment complex would have seen
5:54
the attacker leaving the scene. On
5:57
the Monday following Derek's death, an appeal was
5:59
made on RT-11. E's crime line
6:01
television show, asking for anyone with
6:03
information to come forward. Following
6:05
the broadcast, an anonymous call was made
6:08
to Gardee about a pair of youths
6:10
that were seen acting suspiciously in the
6:12
area around the time of the killing
6:15
and officers set about investigating this lead.
6:18
However, within the next 24 hours, the
6:20
case would take an unexpected turn.
6:24
On May 17th, four days after
6:26
Derek Benson's killing, his partner Jackie
6:28
Noble presented herself at Santree Garda
6:31
station, saying she wanted to make
6:33
a statement. She was taken
6:35
to an interview room by Detective Garda
6:37
Andrew O'Keefe where she revealed the
6:39
details of her relationship with Derek
6:41
Benson and gave a shocking account of
6:43
the night of May 13th. Noble
6:47
told Detective O'Keefe that she had met Derek
6:49
Benson when she was just 16, but things
6:52
had quickly turned sour between the couple.
6:55
About six months into the relationship
6:57
on Halloween night, Benson became physically
6:59
abusive when he kicked Jackie Noble
7:01
so hard in the face that
7:03
he gave her a black eye. What
7:05
followed was almost two decades of
7:07
horrific abuse. Noble
7:10
gave the detective a detailed and
7:12
harrowing account of her relationship with
7:14
Derek Benson, alleging that he beat
7:16
her frequently using his hands, feet
7:18
and whatever he had nearby that
7:20
could be used as a weapon.
7:23
Benson also subjected her to
7:25
quote, "...mental torture and sexual
7:27
abuse." She asserted
7:29
that Derek Benson was possessive and
7:31
a control freak. Noble
7:33
and Benson had a daughter who was 13
7:35
at the time of her father's death. She
7:38
had also suffered at the hands of Derek
7:41
Benson who was known to physically assault his
7:43
daughter from a young age. In
7:45
addition to this abuse, Noble told detectives
7:47
that in 1993 when the girl was
7:49
just five or six, her
7:51
school principal had expressed some concerns
7:54
over her behavior. This led
7:56
to a suspicion that Benson may have been
7:58
abusing their daughter sexually. and Noble
8:00
took her to Temple Street Hospital for
8:02
assessment. The young girl was
8:04
examined and signs of abuse were
8:07
found, so Gardi were contacted. However,
8:09
it was claimed that the child was
8:12
then threatened by Benson and as a
8:14
result, her complaint was withdrawn and no
8:16
charges were brought. Noble
8:19
told Gardi that in more recent times,
8:21
Benson was using their teenage daughter to
8:23
administer heroin to him and he was
8:26
allowing her to quote, smoke joints and
8:28
stuff. According to Jackie,
8:30
Benson was also forcing their daughter to
8:32
sell drugs on the street for him.
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She told Gardi quote, he was ruining
8:37
her life just like he ruined mine.
8:40
Noble and Benson had lived together with their
8:43
daughter in the flash in Sandy Hill Avenue
8:45
for a number of years but in the
8:47
months leading up to the killing Noble went
8:49
to live at her parents house in North
8:51
Court. Her mother had passed
8:53
away some years before while her father's
8:56
death had been more recent and she
8:58
found comfort in the familiar surroundings of
9:00
her childhood home. However,
9:02
despite this brief respite, Benson still
9:04
controlled many aspects of her life
9:07
and the domestic abuse continued. When
9:10
asked why she hadn't just left Derek Benson
9:12
for good, Jackie Noble said that he had
9:14
threatened that if she ever tried to leave
9:16
him, he would cut their daughter up in
9:18
front of her and then stab
9:20
her too. Given Benson's
9:22
volatile temper and history of violence, Noble
9:24
said she had no reason to doubt
9:26
him. In her
9:28
interview with Detective O'Keefe, Noble explained
9:30
that her resentment had been seething
9:32
for some time but had come
9:34
to a head in the weeks
9:36
leading up to Benson's death. She
9:39
had confided in an acquaintance named
9:41
Paul Hopkins telling him about the
9:43
frequent beatings and abuse that she
9:45
suffered from her partner. Hopkins
9:47
was a 21-year-old bouncer who worked on
9:49
the door of a pub in Drumcandra.
9:52
Noble knew him because she had sold him
9:54
a heroin substitute on a number of occasions
9:56
and he had also on occasion used her
9:58
flat to smoke heroin. when. Noble
10:01
admitted to detectives that she was
10:03
also, quote, on gear. When
10:06
Noble told Hopkins about the frequent, vicious
10:08
beatings that Benson put her through, she
10:10
said that the young doorman had offered
10:12
to do something about it for her.
10:15
Hopkins had also had a number of
10:17
run-ins with Benson in the past and
10:20
was more than happy to help her
10:22
exact some justice. Detective
10:25
O'Keefe asked Noble how she responded to
10:27
Hopkins' offer and she claimed that she
10:29
had told him that she wouldn't mind
10:31
Benson getting a beating or ending up
10:33
in a wheelchair, reasoning that this would
10:35
help her to get away from him.
10:38
She went on to tell Detective O'Keefe
10:40
that she had hired someone to assault
10:42
Benson 11 years earlier in the hope
10:44
that it would be sufficient punishment to
10:46
stop his abuse of her, but it
10:48
hadn't worked and the beatings continued. After
10:52
Hopkins had offered to, quote, do something about
10:54
Derek, Noble said she agreed to pay him
10:56
3,000 punts for what
10:58
she claimed was a planned assault and she
11:00
gave him an advance of 200 punts.
11:04
Two days before the attack, Noble met
11:06
with Hopkins who gave her some sleeping
11:08
tablets and a Nokia phone and
11:10
the pair hatched a plan. They agreed
11:12
that Noble would go to the flat
11:14
and drug Benson and when the sleeping
11:17
tablets started to take effect she would
11:19
contact Hopkins on the phone to let
11:21
him know. Noble would then
11:23
wait for Hopkins to arrive so she could
11:25
let him in and once he did she
11:28
would leave and go back to her
11:30
parents house on Nouth Court while Hopkins
11:32
carried out the assault. On
11:34
the evening of May 13th, Jackie told the
11:37
detectives she went to Benson's flat at around
11:39
9pm. He was recovering
11:41
from a dental procedure so he was
11:43
in bed and the couple ate macado
11:45
biscuits together while they watched the movie
11:47
Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Noble
11:50
made coffee for Benson, lacing it with
11:53
the sleeping tablets that Paul Hopkins had
11:55
given her and duly made contact
11:57
with Hopkins on the phone at around
11:59
10pm. past one, Hopkins arrived.
12:02
Noble said, quote, He walked in and
12:04
I walked out. A
12:07
short time later, after she had arrived
12:09
back at her parents' house in Nouth
12:11
Court, Jackie Noble received a phone call
12:13
from Benson's neighbor, Claire Keighley. Noble
12:16
recounted that Claire told her that the
12:18
flat was on fire and continued, quote,
12:20
I felt sick. Derek was never meant
12:23
to be killed. Hurt, yes, but not
12:25
killed. She was very insistent
12:27
with Garde that she had no desire that
12:29
Benson be killed. After
12:31
giving her statement to Garde, Jackie
12:33
Noble left the station without charge and
12:35
signed herself into St. Vincent's psychiatric unit
12:38
while officers went in search of Paul
12:40
Hopkins. At 6.30 a.m.
12:43
on May 18th, Garde raided Paul
12:47
Hopkins' home in Salogue Road, Baliman.
12:50
They arrested Hopkins, taking him to
12:52
Century Garda Station for questioning. Hopkins
12:55
soon realized that Garde knew everything
12:57
and that lying would be
12:59
futile. He told investigators
13:01
that Derek Benson frequently demanded money
13:03
from him and intimidated him. He
13:06
claimed to be afraid of Benson, who he
13:08
said regularly boasted about beating and cutting people
13:10
up. Both Hopkins and Benson
13:12
had been sent on a fast course to
13:15
the U.S. together in the past, where the
13:17
bullying continued. According to Hopkins,
13:19
the situation culminated in Benson threatening
13:21
to rape his girlfriend and baby
13:23
girl before killing them. He
13:26
told Garde he believed that Benson was
13:28
a pedophile who had, quote, interfered with
13:30
children, so he thought the threat against
13:32
his partner and child were credible. Hopkins
13:35
said, quote, When I heard this, I
13:37
snapped. I despised him with a passion.
13:40
Hopkins went on to say that a fortnight
13:42
before the killing, he bumped into Noble. She
13:45
was crying and told him that Benson had stolen
13:47
a bracelet that had been given to her by
13:49
her late father. She also
13:51
confided in him about the beatings and
13:53
other abuse that Derek Benson inflicted on
13:55
her. After hearing this, Hopkins
13:57
said that he offered to kill Benson for the first
13:59
time. for Jackie Noble. She
14:01
said that she would pay him if he did, and made
14:03
mention of 5,000 punts. Following
14:07
this conversation, the pair met again a number
14:09
of weeks later and formulated a plan. Hopkins
14:12
went to the apartment of his brother
14:14
Michael, who collected swords. Paul
14:17
told Michael that he knew a taxi driver
14:19
who wanted to buy one of the swords
14:21
and selected one from the collection. It was
14:24
a black-handled Chinese model with
14:26
a 12-inch curved blade. He
14:28
gave his brother £80 for the weapon. He
14:31
then bought a Nokia mobile phone and
14:33
some sleeping tablets and two days before
14:36
Benson was murdered, Hopkins met Jackie to
14:38
give her the phone and the medication.
14:40
In the early
14:42
hours of May 13th, Jackie Noble called
14:44
Hopkins to say everything was going as
14:46
planned. After hanging up, Hopkins armed himself
14:48
with the sword and went to Benson's
14:51
home at Sandy Hill Avenue. Jackie was
14:53
just leaving the flat as he entered.
14:55
In his statement, Hopkins said that he had asked
14:57
Noble if she was sure she wanted to go
14:59
ahead with the plan, and she replied that
15:01
she was sure. He claimed
15:04
to Garde that at the time he was trying
15:06
to get out of the arrangement he had made,
15:08
but nevertheless he had gone through with it.
15:11
Hopkins then gave a gruesome and detailed account
15:13
of the killing, saying that he took the
15:15
sword from a bag and swung it at
15:17
Derek Benson as he slept in bed. Benson
15:20
woke up and started to wrestle with the sword.
15:23
He was bleeding heavily and jumped from the
15:25
bed in an attempt to escape, but
15:27
Hopkins chased him. Hopkins
15:29
admitted that he kept stabbing Benson
15:31
until he died. He then described
15:34
to the detectives how he set Benson's
15:36
betalite and threw lighting papers into the
15:38
wardrobe to ignite it before leaving the
15:40
flat with the sword. Hopkins
15:42
later asked a friend named Lorna Langan to
15:45
keep the sword at her flat in Slogue
15:47
Road, but he didn't give her any information
15:49
as to why he wanted her to hold
15:51
it for him. Asked
15:53
in the interview to describe his interactions with
15:56
Jackie, Hopkins claimed that Noble had smiled as
15:58
she asked him to keep it. to kill
16:00
Benson. He said that
16:02
Jackie was calling the shots and asserted
16:04
that the decision to kill Derek Benson
16:06
was hers. He told Garde
16:08
that he had asked Noble if she
16:10
really wanted it done and she had
16:12
replied, quote, Yeah, I definitely wanted done.
16:15
Hopkins said that he was scared at the time,
16:17
but that he had definitely made up his mind
16:19
to stand up to Benson. Garde
16:22
charged Paul Hopkins with the murder of
16:24
Derek Benson at 6.30pm that evening. Doctors
16:28
also went to the home of Lorna Langan,
16:30
where they recovered the sword in a wardrobe
16:32
in one of her bedrooms. Meanwhile,
16:35
they lay in wait for Jackie Noble,
16:37
knowing that she was receiving inpatient care
16:39
in St. Vincent's. Three
16:42
days after signing herself in, she was
16:44
released and was leaving the unit when
16:46
the car she was traveling in was
16:48
stopped by Detective Sergeant Murphy. He told
16:51
her that he was arresting her for the murder
16:53
of Derek Benson, which caused her to collapse in
16:55
the backseat of the car. Noble
16:58
was taken to St. Regarda station where
17:00
she was questioned further. She
17:02
gave a similar account to her initial
17:04
statement, but also added that she had
17:06
tried repeatedly to have Benson harmed in
17:08
recent years. She admitted that
17:10
on one occasion she had paid
17:12
£500 to a Northern Irishman to
17:14
have Benson shot, but the man
17:16
disappeared after being paid and nothing
17:19
further came of the situation. She
17:22
had also spoken to another individual who offered
17:24
to give Derek Benson a quote dose of
17:26
bad gear. Noble offered to
17:28
pay the man to do this, but again
17:30
nothing came of it. Noble
17:33
was then brought before Dublin District Court,
17:35
where she was formally charged with the
17:37
murder of Derek Benson. In response
17:39
to the charge, she said quote,
17:41
I am sorry, I am very sorry.
17:55
Have you ever felt like escaping to your
17:57
own desert island? Jane Gaskin
17:59
did exactly that, trading in the family
18:01
home to begin a new life in the
18:03
tropics. But she soon
18:05
discovers the Paradise has its secrets.
18:08
I'm Alice Levine and this is the
18:11
Price of Paradise, the island
18:13
dream that ends in kidnap, corruption
18:15
and murder. Wish
18:17
you were here? Follow the Price of
18:20
Paradise now, wherever you listen to pop off.
18:25
The joint murder trial opened on January 12,
18:27
2004 before Mr. Justice Henry Abbott. Journalist
18:32
Liz Walsh reported extensively on the proceedings
18:35
for a number of national media outlets.
18:38
In the time that had passed since
18:40
the killing of Derek Benson, detectives had
18:42
uncovered far more facts surrounding the case
18:45
and prosecuting counsel Tom O'Connell used
18:47
these facts to illustrate the state's
18:50
case for the jury. Prior
18:52
to the contract-killing agreement, Jackie Noble learned
18:54
that she was due to inherit an
18:57
amount of money and a portion of
18:59
property from her late father's estate. Derek
19:01
Benson had already laid claim to some of
19:04
the money, intending to use it
19:06
to buy an apartment and a motorbike. Mr.
19:09
O'Connell contended that it was this
19:12
demand for money that precipitated the
19:14
agreement between Jackie Noble and Paul
19:16
Hopkins. The prosecuting
19:18
counsel detailed the extent of Derek
19:20
Benson's injuries, describing in
19:23
particular the seven wounds where the sword
19:25
went through his body completely from front
19:27
to back. He outlined the
19:29
violent nature of Benson and Noble's
19:31
relationship, the imminent inheritance and Derek
19:33
Benson's plan to spend the money
19:35
once Noble received it. The
19:37
state maintained that this is what
19:40
put the murder plan into motion,
19:42
though acknowledging that Jackie Noble had
19:44
contemplated killing Benson for some time.
19:47
Senior counsel O'Connell stated, quote, The plan was
19:50
that Mr. Hopkins would actually kill Mr. Benson,
19:52
and he would do this at the request
19:54
of Ms. Noble, who paid him a certain
19:56
amount of money up front and agreed
19:58
to pay him more. after Benson
20:00
was killed. Mr. O'Connell
20:03
described for the jury the meeting between Noble
20:05
and Hopkins that took place two days before
20:07
the murder, telling the jury
20:09
that a mobile phone and sleeping tablets
20:11
exchanged hands. Senior counsel
20:14
for the prosecution argued, quote, "'It was agreed
20:16
that she would go to the flash and
20:18
drug Mr. Benson and she would then contact
20:20
Mr. Hopkins when the coast was clear. She
20:23
would then leave and he would kill him.' The
20:26
jury was told that they would hear
20:28
evidence from neighbours of Derek Benson who
20:30
heard screaming at around 3am before seeing
20:32
smoke coming from his flat. Counsel
20:35
explained that Hopkins had set fire to
20:37
the flash after killing Mr. Benson, though
20:40
they admitted that this was not part
20:42
of the original plan. Counsel
20:44
asserted that because Noble had, quote,
20:46
"'engaged' Hopkins to kill her partner,
20:49
she was equally responsible for Derek
20:51
Benson's death because the pair had
20:53
acted in joint enterprise." First
20:56
to the stand was Claire Keeley who
20:59
lived in the unit adjoining Derek Benson.
21:02
She told the court that around 3am on the 13th
21:04
of May, she had heard
21:06
screaming coming from Benson's flat. She said
21:08
that her attention was drawn when she
21:11
heard someone who she believed was Benson
21:13
shouting, for God's sake. Claire
21:15
looked out her window to see what was going
21:17
on and it was then that she noticed smoke
21:19
and fire billowing from Benson's
21:21
home. She placed a call to
21:23
the emergency services but were also ringing
21:26
Jackie Noble to tell her that the flat
21:28
was on fire. Under
21:30
cross from Paul Hopkins Defence Council Isabelle
21:32
Kennedy, the witness agreed that she was
21:35
aware of a barring order in place
21:37
between Benson and Noble. Speaking
21:40
of the abuse perpetrated on Noble by Benson,
21:42
Claire Keeley said, quote, "'she wanted to get
21:44
out because of the violence in the way
21:46
he treated her.' Ms. Keeley
21:48
went on to recall an occasion when
21:50
Jackie Noble ran into her flat to
21:53
escape Benson. She told the court,
21:55
quote, "'he ran after her into my bedroom, he
21:57
was killing her.'" According to
21:59
Claire Keeley, Benson then started beating and
22:01
kicking Noble when she was on the ground.
22:04
Asked to describe her relationship with Jackie
22:07
Noble, Ms. Keeley said that they were
22:09
neighbours when Noble lived at the Sandy
22:11
Hill Avenue complex. She recalled
22:13
the first time they had met, saying that
22:15
Noble's hand was very swollen. Keeley
22:18
asked her what had happened, and Noble
22:20
had responded that she had not made Benson's breakfast
22:22
that morning, so he hit her with a plank
22:24
of wood on the hand. The witness
22:26
went on to tell Isabelle Kennedy that she
22:28
was afraid of Derek Benson. She
22:31
had argued with him about something in the
22:33
past, after which Ms. Keeley alleged he, quote,
22:35
threatened to burn me out of it. She
22:37
reported the threat to Gardee at the time, but
22:40
no charges were ever brought in relation to the
22:42
matter. Mary Ellen Ring
22:44
at defending Noble asked Ms. Keeley if
22:46
she knew what would happen in the
22:48
aftermath of the assaults by Derek Benson.
22:51
Ms. Keeley said that it was always Jackie
22:53
Noble who would say sorry after the rouse,
22:55
and never Benson. The
22:57
defence barrister asked the witness if she
22:59
was aware that Benson had assaulted Noble's
23:01
father, and Claire responded that she
23:04
hadn't seen it but that she had been
23:06
told about the incident. Ms.
23:08
Keeley was also asked about whether she knew
23:10
if Benson was thought to be dealing drugs
23:12
in addition to his personal use, which she
23:14
confirmed she did, and when asked by defence
23:16
council if she thought that Derek Benson was
23:18
liked in the area, Ms. Keeley responded that
23:21
she didn't think so, and that people were
23:23
mostly afraid of him. Ms.
23:25
Keeley then told the court that Benson
23:27
had a violent temper and that Jackie
23:29
Noble could never leave him because he
23:31
would not allow her to. She testified,
23:33
quote, he'd said he'd kill her first.
23:36
State pathologist Dr. Mary Cassidy took to the
23:39
stand and gave evidence of the 85 wounds
23:42
that Derek Benson had suffered as he
23:44
was attacked. The pathologist said
23:46
that Benson had suffered 25 stab injuries, with
23:49
a number of the wounds going through the body front to
23:51
back. In addition to this, Dr.
23:54
Cassidy found that Benson had sustained an additional
23:56
60 cutting or incised wounds
23:58
which extended from head to head. to
24:00
toe. She said this had
24:02
been a quote, sustained and vicious assault.
24:05
The pathologist described a total of 17 wounds
24:08
to Benson's head and neck, including a
24:10
gaping wound which cut through his throat
24:12
to the cervical spine. The
24:14
jury heard that this was a quote,
24:16
slicing or hacking injury, which Dr. Cassidy
24:19
believed was as a result of an
24:21
attempt to decapitate the victim. She
24:24
also noted a number of wounds
24:26
to the scalp and face, some
24:28
of which extended from mouth to
24:30
ear. Derek Benson's right kidney, lung,
24:32
liver, spleen and aorta were all
24:34
punctured during the attack and
24:37
Dr. Cassidy told the court that she had determined
24:39
the cause of death to be quote, multiple
24:41
stab, incise and cutting injuries to
24:43
the head, trunk and limbs. She
24:46
added that toxicology reports carried out
24:48
on Benson showed levels of methadone,
24:51
sleeping tablets and valium. The
24:53
drugs said the pathologist would have had a
24:55
cumulative effect. Following
24:58
Dr. Cassidy's evidence, an officer began to
25:00
read Jackie Noble's statements to Gardee for
25:03
the court, detailing the horrific violence she
25:05
had suffered at the hands of Benson
25:07
and her subsequent attempts to have him
25:10
assaulted and injured. However, halfway
25:12
through the trial was adjourned so that legal
25:14
argument could take place in the absence of
25:16
the jury. This had already happened a
25:19
number of times in the first few days
25:21
of the proceedings and on this occasion the
25:23
adjournment was expected to last no longer than
25:25
a day or two. However, the
25:27
legal arguments ended up dragging on for
25:29
almost three weeks in the end, before
25:31
the trial finally resumed on February
25:33
3rd to hear the remainder of
25:35
Jackie Noble's statements to Gardee. The
25:38
jury heard Noble's account of eating biscuits
25:40
and watching movies with Benson on the
25:42
night he died before she left Paul
25:44
Hopkins into the flash and headed back
25:46
to Niv Court. The
25:49
next witness was Detective Sergeant Matt Murphy who
25:51
gave evidence to the court about a barring
25:53
order that was in place between Benson and
25:56
Noble at the time of the killing. The
25:59
order had arisen after an assault by
26:01
Benson which resulted in Noble being hospitalised
26:04
for broken ribs. Next,
26:06
Paul Hopkins' initial statement to Gardee
26:08
was read aloud. The jury
26:11
heard the defendant's account of his complicated
26:13
and tense history with Derek Benson. Hopkins'
26:16
version of the lead-up to the killing was
26:18
then recited as well as the killing itself,
26:20
and how he had given the sword to
26:23
a friend to hold in the aftermath of
26:25
the crime. This was followed up with
26:27
evidence from Detective Gardet Andrew O'Keefe who
26:29
recounted travelling to the home of Lorna
26:31
Langan to retrieve the weapon. The detective
26:34
recalled that when he arrived at the
26:36
flash with a number of other officers,
26:38
they were invited in by Ms. Langan's
26:40
partner. Ms. Langan herself arrived
26:42
a short time later and she gave permission
26:44
to Gardee to search the home. He
26:46
described the discovery of the sword in the
26:48
wardrobe of a bedroom in the flash. In
26:52
other evidence, Detective Gardet Tom Carey
26:54
of the Garda Ballistics section detailed
26:56
the attempt made to set Derek
26:58
Benson's apartment on fire. The
27:01
jury were shown photographs from the scene
27:03
which depicted scorch marks over Benson's bed
27:05
as well as the fire-damaged wardrobe.
27:09
Detective Gardet Carey also recounted the heavy
27:11
bloodstaining that he encountered in the bedroom
27:13
where Derek Benson had been sleeping when
27:15
he was attacked. Paul
27:18
Hopkins' brother Michael was the next
27:20
witness to give evidence. He
27:22
told the central criminal court that he
27:24
had been on drugs since 1997 and
27:26
was addicted to heroin. Tom O'Connell, Senior
27:29
Counsel, asked Michael if he knew Jackie Noble
27:31
and Derek Benson and he said that he
27:33
did. Counsel then asked him
27:35
if he knew that his brother Paul
27:38
had been getting the heroin substitute fisotone
27:40
from Noble and again Michael answered that
27:42
he did. Questioning then
27:44
turned to Michael's weapon collection which he said
27:46
he had been building for a while. At
27:49
the time of the killing he said he
27:51
owned a number of different swords. Michael
27:53
recalled giving one of his swords to his
27:55
brother Paul in the days leading up to
27:57
the death of Derek Benson telling the court...
28:00
he believed that the blade was being sold
28:02
to a taxi driver, with Paul being the
28:04
middleman. He said he
28:06
was paid 80 pounds for the weapon.
28:08
When asked by Tom O'Connell who
28:10
had given him the money, Michael
28:12
replied, Paul. The
28:14
final witness called by the prosecution
28:16
was Paul Hopkins' former girlfriend, Lisa
28:19
Morehouse. Lisa wept as she
28:21
told the course that Derek Benson had threatened
28:23
her and her baby on four separate occasions,
28:26
and that he once chased her with a butcher's knife.
28:29
She told Senior Council Tom O'Connell that
28:31
Hopkins initially denied any involvement in the
28:33
killing, however she said he later broke
28:35
down and said he didn't mean to
28:37
do it and that he wanted to
28:39
go to the Gardee. Isabel
28:41
Kennedy defending Hopkins asked the witness
28:43
how she felt about Derek Benson.
28:46
Lisa said that she was afraid of him
28:49
and continued quote, he was just a horrible
28:51
person. She recounted one
28:53
instance when Benson had accosted her while
28:55
she was holding her baby. She
28:58
claimed he had pointed at her and her
29:00
daughter saying quote, see you, you stupid bastard,
29:02
I'm going to petrol bomb you and the
29:04
little bastard out of it. Ms. Kennedy asked
29:06
the witness if she had taken this print
29:08
seriously and Lisa responded that she had, adding
29:11
quote, everyone knows he was a blade
29:13
merchant and carried blades. He'd already chased
29:15
me with a knife. Lisa
29:18
told the court that she was a recovering drug
29:20
addict. She said she was no
29:22
longer in a relationship with Paul Hopkins,
29:24
but described their past relationship as good
29:27
apart from their mutual drug use and
29:29
said he had treated her like a queen. However,
29:32
after the killing, she noticed a change
29:34
in Hopkins saying that he became quote,
29:36
very messed up. She told
29:38
Ms. Kennedy that her daughter was now in
29:40
the custody of Paul Hopkins because she said
29:43
he was a brilliant father. On
29:46
February 9th, Paul Hopkins entered the witness
29:48
box to give evidence in his own
29:50
defense. By this stage, the
29:52
trial was in its fourth week, having
29:54
been beset by prolonged legal argument. Hopkins
29:57
told the court that Derek Benson was a quote.
30:00
psychopath. He detailed how
30:02
he had been bullied and assaulted on
30:04
five occasions over a four-year period by
30:06
Benson but said that it was
30:08
not until Benson threatened to harm his
30:10
girlfriend and baby daughter that he decided
30:12
to stand up to him. His defence
30:14
counsel, Isabel Kennedy, put it to Hopkins
30:16
that he went to Derek Benson's flat
30:18
with a sword and the defendant agreed
30:21
that this was the case. She
30:23
asked him what he intended to do
30:25
once inside and the defendant said that
30:27
he'd wanted to scare Derek Benson. He
30:30
went on to detail the events that
30:32
transpired and Benson flashed the jury, saying
30:35
that he had poked the other man with
30:37
the sword as he lay in bed. Benson
30:39
woke, jumped up and a struggle ensued, during
30:42
which the sword fell to the floor. Hopkins
30:45
claimed that when this happened, Benson had picked
30:47
it up and swung it at him. The
30:50
defendant added that his fingers were caught as he
30:52
tried to take the weapon back and at that
30:54
point he lost control. Hopkins
30:57
testified, quote, I think I went
30:59
into a frenzied attack, I just
31:01
started swinging. Ms Kennedy
31:03
asked her client how he felt after the
31:05
killing and Hopkins said that he was, quote,
31:07
sick and scared about a lot of things.
31:11
He alleged that Derek Benson was a violent
31:13
man and claimed that he, quote, interfered with
31:16
children. Hopkins recalled being
31:18
in Boston on a fast course when
31:20
Benson threatened to petrol bomb his girlfriend,
31:22
Lisa, and his daughter, quote, after he
31:25
was finished with them. Hopkins
31:27
told the jury that he took this to
31:29
mean that he would rape Lisa and the
31:31
baby. Ms Kennedy asked
31:33
Hopkins if he had meant to kill or
31:35
cause serious harm when he went to Benson's
31:38
flat that night. He responded
31:40
that he had only wanted to stand up to
31:42
a man he thought was a bully and added
31:44
that it had taken him four years as a
31:46
threat to his child to actually attempt to stand
31:49
up to him. He was
31:51
insistent that he had never meant to
31:53
kill Derek Benson. On
31:55
his second day in the witness box,
31:57
Hopkins was cross examined by Dominic McGinn.
32:00
the prosecution, he denied ever
32:02
telling Garde that Jackie Noble had offered
32:04
to pay him to kill Derek Benson
32:06
and insisted that money had never
32:09
been mentioned in his conversations with
32:11
his co-defendant. Mr McGinn
32:13
put it to him that according to his
32:15
Garde statement, Jackie was calling
32:17
the shots. Hopkins disagreed
32:20
reiterating that he had made his mind up
32:22
to stand up to him and
32:24
that he had been scared when it came
32:26
time to actually act upon this. The
32:30
next day, Jackie Noble gave some of
32:32
the most harrowing and emotional evidence of
32:34
the trial. She recalled the beginning of
32:36
her relationship with Benson and how
32:39
things had turned violent after six months. Noble
32:41
had been just 16 at the time. She
32:44
told the jury, quote, he gave me a kick
32:46
into the face at Halloween. He busted my eye.
32:49
Noble said that she subsequently became pregnant
32:51
with Benson's child, but on her mother's
32:53
advice, she had a termination. Her parents
32:56
were very concerned for her and they
32:58
wanted her to keep away from him,
33:00
but she was already growing increasingly
33:03
fearful of Benson's volatile nature. She
33:05
told the court that she became pregnant again and this
33:07
time she had the baby, a little
33:10
girl. Noble recalled that
33:12
at the child's christening, Benson
33:14
became very drunk. He ended up smashing
33:16
the windows in her parents' house and
33:18
assaulted her father, biting him on the
33:21
back. She said that these bite
33:23
marks were visible on her father's back up
33:25
until the day he died. Noble
33:28
said that she had three more abortions
33:30
after her daughter was born because she
33:32
refused to have another baby with Benson
33:34
due to the beatings. Noble
33:37
detailed the litany of physical abuse that
33:39
she had experienced at the hands of
33:41
Benson. She alleged that
33:43
he would use his fists, feet and objects
33:45
to beat her on a regular basis. She
33:48
recounted one incident where he split her eye
33:50
open because his stew was not on the
33:53
right side of the plate. Noble
33:55
said Benson often aimed his blows at her
33:57
back so that no one else would see
33:59
the mark. Noble
34:01
then turned her face away from the court
34:03
as she gave details of the horrific sexual
34:05
abuse that she had suffered from Benson. The
34:09
defendant said that her sisters were unaware of
34:11
the extent of the abuse and it distressed
34:13
her greatly to recount it. Benson,
34:15
she said, would often tie her to a
34:17
bed or a chair before raping her orally
34:19
or anally. Her defence
34:22
counsel, Mary Ellen Ring, asked if Benson
34:24
had ever been violent towards their daughter
34:27
and Noble recalled one occasion where she caught
34:29
him kicking and punching her in the bedroom.
34:32
The little girl was just seven or eight at the
34:34
time. Noble called Garde
34:36
and they took Benson away but he was
34:39
released and back at the slash the very
34:41
next morning. In her second
34:43
day of evidence, Noble described how Benson taught
34:45
their daughter to inject him with heroin when
34:47
she was just 13. He
34:50
also claimed that he allowed the teen to
34:52
smoke hash and forced her to sell what
34:54
Noble called rips on the street for him.
34:57
She went on to tell her defence barrister that
34:59
her daughter had often slept in the same bed
35:01
as her father and she suspected that
35:03
Benson had had sex with another 13-year-old
35:06
girl who had spent the night at his
35:08
flash. Noble broke
35:10
down frequently on the stand as she gave
35:12
her evidence. She explained her
35:14
ultimate goal to the jury telling them,
35:16
quote, I just wanted to get away
35:18
from him, to let me and my daughter live in
35:20
peace. She said she
35:22
had regularly sought refuge with friends after
35:25
the beatings from Benson and described herself
35:27
as a bag lady, always going off
35:29
to stay somewhere else away from him.
35:32
The defendant went on to testify that it
35:34
got to the point that she could no
35:36
longer live with the ongoing physical, sexual and
35:39
mental torture. She said she would
35:41
often wake up in the morning to find Benson
35:43
leering over her wearing a balaclava and holding a
35:45
knife to her throat. She
35:47
wept and stated, quote, I just had
35:49
enough. My brain was exploding with everything.
35:53
After Jackie Noble's evidence concluded, Garda Sinead-McGee
35:55
told the court that she was on
35:57
duty in Ballymun in 1990. in
36:00
1997 when she heard Derek Benson shouting
36:02
up at Jackie Noble's flat. Noble
36:04
told the officer that she had a
36:07
borrowing order against Benson and Garda McGee
36:09
told him to leave the area. However,
36:12
as she spoke to Jackie Noble, Benson
36:14
managed to sneak into the flat. Garda
36:17
McGee arrested him and brought him before
36:19
the district court. He was granted
36:21
bail and, as he was being brought
36:23
to sign the bond, he told Garda
36:25
McGee, quote, I guarantee you that I'll
36:27
be back in Jackie's flat tonight and
36:29
she won't be making a complaint. Garda
36:32
McGee returned him to court immediately and
36:34
his bail was revoked. Later,
36:37
as she was bringing Benson through the
36:39
tunnel to the cells, she described how
36:41
Benson had swung around and struck her
36:43
in an apparent attempt to knock the
36:45
guard down the stairs. As
36:47
a result of this incident, Benson was
36:49
further charged and jailed for six months.
36:53
Jackie Noble's GP, Dr. Maurice
36:55
Houston, gave evidence that supported
36:58
all of the defendant's claims
37:00
of injury caused by Derek
37:02
Benson. Dr. Houston had
37:04
treated Noble repeatedly between 1994 and
37:08
1999 and he detailed a
37:10
litany of injuries that she had
37:12
attended the surgery with, including fractured
37:14
ribs, bruises to the chest and
37:16
back, kicks to the back
37:18
and shoulder, and extensive bruising to
37:20
the body and thighs. On
37:23
at least two occasions, the GP said he
37:25
had referred her to A&E to
37:27
have x-rays performed. According
37:29
to Dr. Houston, Jackie Noble's main
37:31
concern was for the welfare of
37:33
her daughter. He recalled Noble
37:36
as an excellent mother and said she
37:38
cared for her daughter extremely well. The
37:40
doctor concluded his evidence saying that he
37:42
always advised Noble to contact Garda, but
37:45
the cycle of abuse had continued. Next,
37:48
the jury heard evidence from Ms. Anne
37:51
O'Connor, who was a clinical psychologist
37:53
attached to St. Clair's unit of
37:55
Temple Street Children's Hospital. Ms.
37:58
O'Connor said that in 1993, Jackie
38:00
Noble brought her daughter to the unit to
38:02
be seen. She told the
38:04
court that St. Claire's unit was a
38:06
particular department of the hospital that assessed
38:08
suspected cases of child sexual abuse. The
38:12
final witness called by Jackie Noble's defence
38:14
team was her sister Wendy Dalton. Wendy
38:17
broke down as she told the court how
38:19
she had witnessed Derek Benson assaulting her sister
38:21
on a number of occasions. Through
38:24
tears Wendy recalled quote, you could be with him
38:26
in the same room and he'd just turn around
38:28
and give her a clatter in the face or
38:30
maybe a box. She recalled
38:32
one incident in particular that occurred in
38:34
her parents house as she and Jackie
38:37
stood in the kitchen chatting. Benson
38:39
had walked in and started arguing
38:41
and threatening Jackie. He pulled
38:43
up his fists and told Wendy quote, don't think
38:45
I won't hit you either. Wendy's
38:48
boyfriend tried to stop him and Derek
38:50
Benson pulled a knife out of his
38:52
back pocket. On another occasion
38:54
the witness said that Jackie had been staying at
38:56
her parents house as their father was dying. Wendy
38:59
walked in to find her sister in a state,
39:01
her hair was in disarray and there was a
39:03
mark on her cheek. Wendy
39:05
went on to describe Benson's volatility
39:08
and the fear that he induced
39:10
in everyone around him. What
39:12
stuck out in Wendy's mind was how
39:14
Benson's whole face would contort and
39:16
he would be almost quote foaming at
39:18
the mouth. Wendy recalled
39:21
quote, it was frightening to look at.
39:23
Once you'd see Derek you'd always be shaking,
39:25
my legs would turn to jelly. Have
39:37
you ever felt like escaping to your own
39:39
desert island? Jane Gaskin did exactly
39:41
that, trading in the family home to
39:44
begin a new life in the tropics.
39:46
But she soon discovers that paradise has
39:49
its secrets. I'm
39:51
Alice Levine and this is the price
39:53
of paradise, the island dream
39:55
that ends in kidnap, corruption,
39:58
and murder. you were here?
40:01
Follow the price of paradise now, wherever
40:03
you listen to Pop-Off." In
40:07
his closing speech, Tom O'Connell prosecuting told
40:09
the jury that there was no defence
40:12
in this case. Council said
40:14
that the evidence that Jackie Noble had
40:16
had a quote, dog's life, at the
40:18
hands of Derek Benson was no justification
40:20
for having him killed. He
40:22
argued, quote, on this night, there
40:24
was no attack on Ms Noble.
40:27
Prosecution asks you to bring in
40:29
a verdict of guilty in relation
40:31
to Mr Hopkins and Ms Noble.
40:35
Council for Hopkins and Noble didn't agree.
40:38
Isabel Kennedy, defending Hopkins, said that the
40:40
assertion that there was no defence in
40:42
the case was absolutely absurd. The
40:44
barrister argued that the defence of self-defence
40:47
was open to her client as
40:49
he had not gone to the flat with the intention
40:51
of killing Derek Benson. He
40:53
had gone to frighten Benson, she said. Ms
40:56
Kennedy reminded the jury that Hopkins was
40:58
clearly in fear of Benson, having been
41:00
threatened by him on a number of
41:02
occasions. She said that Benson should
41:05
not have been killed but she asked the
41:07
court to look at the characters of both
41:09
Noble and Hopkins who up till this point
41:11
had never been in trouble with Gardee. Ms
41:14
Kennedy said that this was in stark
41:16
contrast to Derek Benson who had been
41:18
described by his very own mother as,
41:20
quote, violent and evil. Council
41:22
concluded her speech by suggesting that Derek
41:24
Benson was not only a violent man
41:26
with a nasty temper but that he
41:28
was also suspected of child sexual abuse.
41:31
She asked the jury to consider
41:33
how that may have impacted on
41:35
Paul Hopkins' mind given that the
41:37
focus of his life was his
41:39
18-month-old daughter. Jackie
41:41
Noble's defence council, Marielle and Ring
41:43
made a similar plea in her
41:45
closing speech. Ms Ring asserted
41:48
that the killing of Derek Benson
41:50
was one carried out in self-defence.
41:52
Noble, she said, was beaten again and
41:55
again and again for years. She
41:57
had secured bearing orders but the jury was these
42:00
were always breached by Benson. Council
42:02
asked the jury to consider the occasion
42:04
when Benson fractured Noble's ribs in 1997.
42:08
If Noble had struck him and pierced him
42:10
in the heart during this incident, it would
42:12
have been seen as a classic case of
42:15
self-defense. Ms. Ring also
42:17
asked the jury to take Benson's treatment
42:19
of his 13-year-old daughter into consideration when
42:21
he showed her how to shoot a
42:23
heroin. She reminded them of
42:25
the other incidents of abuse against the
42:27
young girl and told them to ask
42:29
themselves how this might have affected Jackie
42:31
Noble. She closed her speech by
42:33
asking the jury to acquit her client of murder.
42:37
After hearing Justice Henry Abbott's charge,
42:39
the jury retired to consider their
42:41
verdict. After seven hours of deliberation,
42:44
the seven men and five women
42:46
returned with a unanimous verdict, finding
42:48
both Paul Hopkins and Jackie Noble
42:51
guilty of murder. Two
42:53
of the female jurors and two of the
42:55
male jurors were visibly upset as the verdict
42:57
was read out. Jackie Noble
42:59
cried with her sisters while supporters of Paul
43:01
Hopkins sobbed at the back of the court.
43:04
Mandatory life sentences were handed down
43:06
to both defendants. After
43:09
the trial, it emerged that much of
43:11
the lengthy legal argument that took place
43:14
during the proceedings was centered around counsel
43:16
for Hopkins and Noble attempting to have
43:18
the defense of provocation considered by the
43:20
jury. However, Mr. Justice
43:22
Henry Abbott ultimately refused to allow the
43:24
jury to consider this avenue. Psychiatric
43:27
and psychological evidence to support Jackie
43:30
Noble's state of mind was also
43:32
ruled inadmissible by the judge. Following
43:35
the sentencing, Mr. Justice Abbott
43:37
refused both Hopkins and Noble
43:39
leave to appeal their sentences.
43:42
According to Ken Fox's book, Revenge, Jackie
43:44
Noble's daughter, Kelly, was not present in
43:46
court to hear the verdict in her
43:48
mother's case as she'd already been taken
43:51
into care and was living with a
43:53
foster family. However, she maintained
43:55
a close bond with Jackie and visited
43:57
her regularly in the Doka Center, where
43:59
she... was imprisoned. A
44:02
number of months after the sentencing,
44:04
Kelly gave an interview to Joe
44:06
Duffy on his LiveLine radio show
44:08
which was broadcast on RT Radio
44:10
1. Throughout the interview,
44:12
the girl referred to Jackie repeatedly
44:14
as Mipur Ma. The
44:16
then 18-year-old Kelly detailed the horrific legacy
44:18
of trauma that her father's abuse had
44:21
had on her life. She
44:23
said that as a child she frequently
44:25
witnessed Benson's explosive violence on her mother
44:27
and that she herself was also
44:29
beaten regularly while her father. The
44:32
young woman went on to tell the radio
44:34
presenter that her life had been destroyed by
44:36
what she called her father's evil and violent
44:38
spirit. She said, quote, I'd hear him
44:41
killing Mipur Ma all the time in the next
44:43
bedroom. I'd lie there with my hands over my
44:45
ears just praying to God he'd stop. He
44:47
bashed me loads of times as well. When I was
44:49
eight, he broke a tennis racket on my chin and
44:52
I had to get eight stitches. Kelly's
44:54
voice trembled as she recalled the horrific violence rained
44:56
down on her and her mother at the hands
44:58
of her father. She insisted,
45:01
quote, my father that she killed was
45:03
an animal. My poor mother is in
45:05
jail now because she tried to protect me from that.
45:08
Unfortunately for Kelly Noble, her troubled background
45:10
would have a far-reaching effect on her
45:13
future. Two years after
45:15
her mother was convicted for murder, Kelly
45:17
found herself in court charged with stabbing
45:19
another young woman to death. Kelly
45:21
was 20 years old at the time and was a
45:23
mother to two young children. In
45:26
the months following her mother's incarceration, Kelly had
45:28
moved to the Seaview estate in Laytown County
45:30
Mead in the hope of making a fresh
45:32
start. She enrolled in school
45:35
locally and made friends with a number
45:37
of teenage girls, including one named Emma
45:39
McLaughlin. Unfortunately things soured
45:41
between the girls, culminating in a
45:43
row at Laytown railway station during
45:45
which a pregnant Emma claimed that
45:47
Kelly Noble kicked her in the
45:49
stomach. The pair had fallen
45:51
out after this and an incident was
45:54
subsequently reported to Gardee when McLaughlin tried
45:56
to attack Noble with a hammer. However,
45:59
their paths hadn't crossed much in the
46:01
years since. According to
46:03
an article written by Sorka Griffith
46:05
for the Irish Independent, on June
46:08
2nd 2006, Kelly Noble was at her
46:10
home with her two children and her
46:12
friend and occasional babysitter, Neve Cullen. The
46:15
women had spent the day together and
46:17
Noble was braiding Cullen's hair as a
46:19
birthday gift when she realised that she
46:21
needed cigarettes along with some other groceries.
46:23
She asked Cullen to watch her daughter
46:25
and headed to the local supermarket, pushing
46:27
her young son in a buggy. While
46:30
inside the supermarket, Noble was approached
46:32
by Emma McLaughlin who started to
46:34
row with her. McLaughlin allegedly punched
46:36
Noble in the nose before being
46:38
asked to leave the shop. It
46:41
was at this point Kelly Noble rang Neve
46:43
Cullen asking her to bring a knife down
46:45
to the shop. Cullen grabbed
46:47
a knife from the kitchen block and put it
46:49
into a child's school bag. By the
46:51
time she arrived at a packed supermarket,
46:53
Cullen said Emma McLaughlin had the exit
46:56
of the shop blocked so that Noble
46:58
couldn't leave the building without passing by
47:00
her. Cullen entered the
47:02
shop handing the school bag to Noble who hung
47:04
it on the back of her son's buggy. Noble
47:07
then took the knife from the bag
47:09
and slipped it up her sleeve. As
47:11
the two women left the shop, McLaughlin
47:13
lunged at Noble who slid the knife
47:15
out and plunged it into McLaughlin's chest
47:17
as Noble's two children looked on, crying.
47:21
Following her arrest, Kelly Noble told Gardee
47:23
that she had no intention of killing
47:25
anyone and that she was afraid of
47:27
getting her head kicked in by McLaughlin.
47:29
She claimed quote, it was self-defense big
47:31
time. Following her trial,
47:33
Kelly Noble was found guilty of manslaughter.
47:36
She was sentenced to 10 years in prison
47:38
which was to be served alongside her mother
47:40
in Mount Joy's prison. However,
47:43
just weeks after her sentencing, she was
47:45
transferred to Limerick prison following a row
47:47
with her mother, Jackie. She
47:49
was eventually returned to Mount Joy a number
47:52
of months later but continued to get into
47:54
trouble over the course of her sentence, attacking
47:56
a prison officer on one occasion and
47:59
preventing officers from seizing a drug-laden orange
48:01
on another. In 2008, Kelly
48:04
had her sentence reduced to eight years
48:06
with the final two suspended. She
48:09
was released just before Christmas in 2010. In 2016,
48:13
she was jailed again, this time for six months,
48:15
after she was found to be carrying a carving
48:17
knife and three Stanley blades in her handbag as
48:20
she went to a christening. Jackie
48:22
Noble, on the other hand, kept her head
48:25
down in prison, earning her temporary release on
48:27
a number of occasions. She
48:29
was formally released at the end of 2017, having served
48:32
a total of 14 years
48:34
for the murder of Berwick Benson.
48:37
Paul Hopkins was freed on license
48:39
before Christmas in 2022. Jackie
48:42
Noble has been frank and open about
48:44
her actions, and following her release, she
48:46
gave an interview to journalist Alison O'Reilly,
48:49
saying she hoped she could now get on with the rest
48:51
of her life and focus on her family. She
48:54
told the journalist, quote, What happened happened?
48:56
I went in for it, and that's the way it is.
48:58
I can't change it. She went on to
49:01
say, quote, I'm glad I'm out. To be honest, I'd
49:03
just like to write a book and get on with
49:05
it. I want to take care of
49:07
my daughter and grandkids and get on with it.
49:14
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