Titled Mr. Chan: Don’t Dumb Down, the podcast recalls my earliest days of training in 1979 with my first Qigong teacher. In addition, I have added a text about Mr. Chan, as well as a picture of us from 1989 and a link to a video about him. There is also a link to a conversation with Ted Meissner and myself on the Podcast site Present Moment: Mindfulness and Science. Ted interviewed me about the MBTP series, and we explore various aspects of how it came into being.Find more at mindfulness-based-teacher-project.org.