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Like most of my generation, I
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grew up scared as hell of nuclear
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armageddon. Sometimes
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my father would sit at the edge of my bed and
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tell me not to worry, that nuclear
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war wouldn't happen, precisely because
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the superpowers had the capacity to blow
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each other up the military doctrine
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of mutual assured destruction. I'm
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not sure if he believed it or if he was
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just trying to make me feel better. Roger,
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this is not an exercise. But I
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was worried enough that I made sure
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to watch a made for TV movie on ABC
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called The Day After. It
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aired right before Thanksgiving with
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limited commercials, so you knew this
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was a really big deal. It
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depicted the destruction of Kansas
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City after a nuclear attack. Roger
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understanding missiles and bound
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Nountain. The
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Day After was shockingly graphic
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for the time. What I remember most,
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though, isn't the scene of the incineration
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a lot of people turning into skeletons,
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but the scene right before. A
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character played by Jason Robards
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is driving on the highway when enemy
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nuclear weapons detonate overhead.
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Suddenly, all the cars simply
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stopped running. They go silent. Robards
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and the other drivers tried turning
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their ignitions, but nothing.
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In other words, a nuclear bomb
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would subvert nature on such
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an elemental molecular level
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that cars everywhere would just go dead.
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I have no idea that the science on this checks
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out, but watching it then it
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was so completely unnerving.
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I was fourteen when the movie came out,
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a few years too old to admit how
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scared I was, but it's a good
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bet that most of the record breaking
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one hundred million Americans who
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watched that movie were just as
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afraid. We did watch it as a family,
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and it was deeply disturbing. I
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still have images in my head of it
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just being gray and dark, and
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people staggering through the destroyed
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wilderness.
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What we have seen, the missiles launched,
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the nuclear explosions, the devastating
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results, was all fiction. But
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what brought us to that point is fact. It's
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something we've been living with for years. It's
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the arms race. But not
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everyone was paralyzed by the fear
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of nuclear war. The previous
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November, a schoolgirl from Maine,
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a few years younger than me, decided
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to do something. She wrote
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a letter, a
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letter that asked a simple, eminently
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sane, and sensible question. Somehow
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Samantha managed to boil things
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down to the essence. We
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are all human beings and we
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shouldn't be looking to annihilate each
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other. And that letter made
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big news, and finally,
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tonight, the story of Samantha Smith, a
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ten year old girl from Manchester, Maine.
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At one of the tensest periods in
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Cold War history, Samantha
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Smith ended up going to the Soviet
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Union. The people that have been to the Soviet
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Union have a definite answer, them
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not wanting more and wanting
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peace, just like I do. She
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was an ordinary girl with an uncommon
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touch. She was that beam of sunshine
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that broke through the cold ice of
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cold work. Her life may
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have been short, she had such
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potential mo she could have
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done anything, but she left
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a powerful legacy and
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her short thirteen years she
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did more than a lot of people do. In fifty
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from CBS Sunday Morning, and I
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Heart, I'm Morocca
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And this is mobituaries, This
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mobid Samantha Smith.
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August the
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death of a peacemaker. Hi
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nice squeezed
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and I think At
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Manchester Elementary School in Manchester,
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Maine, the story of its most notable
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alum lives on. So
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today we're talking about Samantha Smith,
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who was a student at this school. Teachers
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like Mrs O'Brien have been telling
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Samantha Smith's story for forty
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years. So she and her parents
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traveled to the Soviet Union.
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And this is a picture of Samantha holding
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up the letter she became
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famous and this shy,
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really sweet little girl from Manchester,
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Maine, all of a sudden was being
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interviewed. Look at all the microphones
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in front of her. Samantha's
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story makes an immediate impression
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on the kids. What is the thing that sort
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of stands out? Um, probably
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how she's always smiling, Um, that
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she's always happy. She
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could It's basically like she could
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walk into any room with people at are grouchy
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and she can cheer him up in a matter of seconds.
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That's wild to be in this school that she went
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to, Yah, And I think that's the
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great part for the kids when they're
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sitting in the classroom and you can say,
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like, this is where she sat. I
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mean, so she was just like you. Jessica
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Dwyer is another one of the teachers telling
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Samantha's story today. She
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really knows the subject matter. Jessica
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and Samantha were students at this school
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together forty years ago and close
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friends. The pictures
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that I have, the memories that
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I have, which are fading,
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I think because it's been a while.
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She was always giggling and laughing.
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That's what I remember. Jessica met
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Samantha in the third grade when
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the Smith family first moved to Manchester,
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a town of about two thousand, just
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a few miles outside of Augusta, Mains
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Capital. It must have been hard
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to join as a new kid, but it did
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not take her long at all to develop
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lots of friends. Sarah Warren
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was another classmate and friend of Samantha's.
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Her mom was a Girl Scout
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troop leader, so we used to have some of our
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troop meetings at their house. Samantha's
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mother, Jane Smith, was a social
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worker for the State of Maine. Samantha
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was an only child. Samantha
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was just a very extroverted,
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bubbly kid. I can remember we
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were trying to learn how to dance like Michael Jackson
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because that was the era of thriller. So we
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were in the living room, you know, trying to learn
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how to moonwalk, and Samantha was leading the
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way. So she was she was
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fun. Samantha's father, Arthur
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Smith, was a college English professor.
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When Samantha was little, she would sit in
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on some of his classes, including
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one he taught about letter writing. At
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age five, Samantha wrote a letter
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to the Queen of England and got a postcard
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response from her lady in waiting. Yeah.
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See, I mean I wrote to the American presidents,
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but I don't know that it ever occurred to me to write to leaders
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of other countries. Oh, Sarah, you needed
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to think bigger, You needed to go global. I
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got there eventually. Sarah
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now works in the Baltimore Public School
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system. Before that, she spent
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many years doing aid work overseas,
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including in war zones, partly
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inspired by what Samantha did back
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three when they were just kids. I'm
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just a few years older than you are. I
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remember being terrified
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by the idea of nuclear war.
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Were you were you scared? I
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was terrified. I can remember a period
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of time in the fourth grade where I woke up every
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day with a stomachache, and it
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was because I was afraid of war. It
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felt like a real possibility
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there for for a period of time. And I remember
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that especially in the fourth grade, which
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I guess must have been impressing Samantha
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to you know, and been pressing on her mind,
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because um, that was around
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you know, the time that she ended up writing a letter. Ah,
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yes, the letter. We'll get
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to that, but first some context.
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In November of two, Soviet
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leader Leoned Bresnev died
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after eighteen years in power. Now,
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as a kid, I remember the Soviet leaders
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as a succession of crypt keepers,
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each one more ghoulish than the one who
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came before. The guy who took over
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right after Bresnev was a former head
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of the KGB spy agency named
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Yuri and drop Of. As
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ambassador to Budapest in nifty
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six, he oversaw the suppression of
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the Hungarian Revolution. As
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head of the KGB for fifteen years,
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he directed the Soviet campaign against
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the dissident movement. To soften
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and Dropov's image, the Kremlin
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pr operation not exactly.
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Madison Avenue put out that the new
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leader spoke fluent English and
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loved American jazz, So
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relax everyone, this Soviet
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leader was a hepcat.
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It was around this time that Samantha was watching
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a science program about nuclear war
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on public TV that scared her much
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like the day after would later scare me. She
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couldn't shake that idea that I could
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all be over tomorrow. Looking
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for some reassurance, Samantha
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and her mother Jane, together read
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in November cover story
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of Time magazine about and
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drop off. It didn't make
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Samantha any less worried, and
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she told her mother that her mother
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should write a letter and Jane,
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her mom apparently turned
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around and said, will you write the letter?
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And I do think that her writing a letter
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as a child was much
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more powerful than any adult writing
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a letter. She
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wrote the following words, Dear
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Mr androp Off, my name is Samantha
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Smith. I am ten years old.
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Congratulations on your new job. I
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have been worrying about Russia and the United
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States getting into a nuclear war.
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Are you going to vote to have a war or not?
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If you aren't, please tell me how you are
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going to help to not have a war. This
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question you do not have to answer, but
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I would like it if you would. Why
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do you want to conquer the world or at least
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our country. God made the
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world for us to share and take care of,
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not to fight over or have one group of
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people own it all. Please
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let's do what he wanted and have everybody
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be happy to Samantha Smith,
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Manchester, Main, USA, PS,
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please right back out
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of the mouths of babes, right, I
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mean, why do you want to have a
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war with our country? Um?
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Which is really what adults
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should be asking each other, you know. I think
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sometimes adults over complicate things,
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and she was getting down to the basics.
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At the time Samantha wrote her letter, Soviet
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and American leaders hadn't held a real
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meeting in five years. The
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Soviet Union's stock pile of nuclear
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weapons had surpassed that of the US,
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and neither superpower was backing
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away from the build up. Do or prior,
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the doomsday clock, the symbol of
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how close mankind was to annihilation
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stood it four minutes to midnight,
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perilously close to midnight.
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While Samantha was waiting for a response,
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U S President Ronald Reagan announced
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the Strategic Defense initiative, called
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star Wars by the press. The
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program pledged hundreds of billions
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of dollars to build a laser based
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system to intercept Soviet missiles.
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The President also delivered his now famous
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Evil Empire speech to the National
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Association of Evangelicals in Orlando.
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I urge you to beware the temptation of pride,
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the temptation of blithely declaring
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yourselves above it all, and label
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both sides equally at fault, to
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ignore the facts of history and the aggressive
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impulses of an evil empire, to simply
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call the arms race a giant misunderstanding,
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and thereby remove yourself from the struggle
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between right and wrong and good and evil.
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Weeks later, the Soviet state
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newspaper Pravda published an
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article featuring letters written by
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Westerners concerned about nuclear
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war. They included Samantha's
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letter. The
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next day, back at Manchester Elementary,
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the school secretary, Mrs Peabody called
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Samantha into the principal's office to
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take a call from an American reporter.
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Ten year old Samantha Smith of Manchester
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Made was one of three Americans whose quotes
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appeared in yesterday's edition of Pravda. She
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says she wanted to get the complicated story cleared
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up ask him questions about nuculate
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war because I wasn't I'm not that sure.
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It's a little bit hard to understand the news that
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because they put it in grown up words, you know, I can't
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understand what they mean, but
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what Samantha really couldn't understand Why
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didn't she receive a response? They
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published her letter in Pravda, but Entropov
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couldn't write her back, so
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she wrote another letter, this time
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to the Soviet embassy in Washington, d
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c. Expressing her disappointment.
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A week later, she got a call from a Soviet
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official a heavily accented voice,
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telling her to watch the mail. At
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first, Samantha thought it might be one
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of her dad's friends playing a joke. It
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wasn't. Just a few days
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later, a special envelope arrived
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at the small town post office, addressed
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to Samantha and signed by
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Urie and drop off. Samantha
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and her dad read the letter on the way
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to school, and her dad wouldn't
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let her bring it to school because she was He was afraid
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that she would lose it. Can you picture
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your parents saying that you can't take this important
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letter to school. It just came
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in the mail at seven this morning.
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What do you think when you go? I
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was happy. I was
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happy that he had responded
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after I had already complained that he hadn't,
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And it basically said that he didn't
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want to rule the world. He did want
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to have a war that he respected
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children, and he talked about
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the children and his family. And
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drop Off compared her to the character
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of Becky Thatcher in Mark Twain's
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Tom Sawyer, because he wrote she
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was brave and smart, and he
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invited her to come and visit the
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Soviet Union. Samantha,
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you recall, is the eleven year old from Maine
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who wrote erion drop Off about her concern over
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nuclear war. She says she hardly
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expected a personal invitation to visit
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the Soviet Union. Now
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it remains unclear if Andropov
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himself actually wrote the letter, and
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it's impossible to know what the Kremlin's
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precise aim was here. Inviting
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an American girl to the otherwise cloistered
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nation was a dramatic public
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relations gambit for the newly minted
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Soviet leader. One possibility,
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since the struggling Soviet economy couldn't
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keep up with US defense spending, perhaps
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in drop Off wanted instead to appeal
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directly to the American people and
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undercut public support for Reagan's
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hardline stance against the Soviets.
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Andropov has been trying hard to shed
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his bad cop image. He left the KGB
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six months ago to improve his chances
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for leadership. It wouldn't have
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been the first time a Soviet leader
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tried to use a child to soften
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his image. In ninety
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six, Joseph Stalin took a
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photo embracing an adorable
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seven year old Indigenous Siberian
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girl named Gellia. The image
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became iconic propaganda of the
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Stalinist era, depicted in
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countless posters, murals,
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and sculptures, and no wonder,
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little Gallia beams Stalin
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looks warm, positively paternal.
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But only a year after the photo was
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taken, Gallia's parents were arrested
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on suspicion of disloyalty, her
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father executed, and her mother dying
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in exile. What did you
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really expect a happy ending? We're talking Stalwin
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here now. A letter
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from the Soviet leader to an American school
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kid would have made news no matter what.
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But it just so happened that and drop
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Off wrote to a kid with a charisma
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that very soon captivated the media.
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She's a fifth grader who wrote
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to and received the now famous
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letter from Soviet leader Urie and drop Off. Would
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you welcome ten year old Samantha Smith on
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The Tonight Show Johnny Carson
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introduced Samantha to the world.
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She was funny. Are you getting
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tired of answering all the questions that people
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like myself when the people on the news show are asking
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you? Yes. I
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remember her sitting in the chair and her little legs
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dangling over and swinging because she could reached
17:49
the floor. And she was just bubbly
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and cute. She was unaffected.
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How did you get the idea to write the letter? Well,
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nukiwarved and on t be a lot lately
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and it got to be so little steady on
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TV. I got scared. It's
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remarkable how at ease she was. There's
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nothing kid act or about her. You've
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never heard of me before you came on the show. Ye
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did they tell you anything about me? They
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told me or a median. What
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immediately comes across is her smile.
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Whether it was her natural disposition or
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the product of a happy upbringing, she
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just had a great natural smile.
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This is no small thing. I
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had a terrible smile when I was a kid.
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Part of it was that I was trying to match the smile
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of people on toothpaste commercials.
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A high bar, I know. But I
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was in a song in dance troop when I was in junior
18:48
high and I needed a smile to match
18:50
the sequence we wore when we performed at
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White Flint Mall in Rockville, Maryland.
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Anyway, I'll never forget when one day
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in rehearsal, I was really pushing
18:59
my smile and the British director
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walked up to me and said, I know what
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you think it looks like, but
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it doesn't. It
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was devastating because she
19:10
was right after that,
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I stuck with a closed lip smile
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for the rest of junior high and all of
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high school. Samantha smile,
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on the other hand, was dynamite, as
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the world could now see.
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I mean, that was big news in Manchester Main. I don't
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think anything is big in my recollection
19:30
has happened before or since. The
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classmate, Jessica Dwyer says that while
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she knew Samantha had poked her head
19:37
into the adult world in a big way, Samantha
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herself kept things real. The
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period when Samantha got
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the reply from her letter,
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it was kept very separate from
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us. Yes, they the media
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was here, we'd be outside at recess,
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but Samantha it wasn't
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something we talked about because I think she
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didn't want to stand out in any way.
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As for and drop offs invitation to visit the
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Soviet Union this summer, Samantha
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is waiting for a decision by her kitchen cabinet,
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her mom and dad. Samantha
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knew she wanted to go. When she asked
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her father, he said, we'll see. She
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knew he always said that before saying
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yes. As
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she finished up fifth grade, Samantha
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made plans for her diplomatic visit to
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the Soviet Union in July. Samantha
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would later write, lots of questions
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came into my head when I looked at pictures
20:35
of Soviet people. I wondered if
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I could be friends with Soviet kids. What they
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think that I was a spy or that I was afraid
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of them? What they think that I wanted to conquer
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them. She flew with her parents,
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first to Boston, then on to Montreal,
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where the press attention was already starting
20:51
to annoy. Her mom told
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me not to say it is because it's not you. It's
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your job. I mean, you're really pstoring.
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I ended a biting the nigrophore. But
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the trip was not without risks coming
21:06
up. Samantha's two week adventure
21:09
in the Soviet Union. So
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this is the kind of folk art that she was given
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people who gave all kinds of things, Lots
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of little dolls, lots of little teddy
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bears. There must be forty teddy bears.
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Lori Labar is chief curator of
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History and Decorative Arts at the Main State
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Museum in Augusta. She's showing
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me the gifts that Samantha Smith received
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on her trip to the Soviet Union in
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the summer of three, including
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a samovar from the Kremlin. This
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is beautiful. It's a tea urn. Essentially, most
21:56
tea goes in there, and the water goes in there. And
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what did these gifts mean? I
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think they were gifts of friendship, someone
22:05
saying thank you for coming, Welcome
22:08
to my world. But at the heart of it, Samantha
22:10
was essentially saying, why
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can't we be friends? That's exactly what she was
22:14
saying. That was the whole trip. She spent two weeks saying
22:17
why can't we be friends. When they arrived
22:19
in Moscow, Samantha, who had just
22:21
turned to Levin, and her parents, Arthur
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and Jane, were greeted by guides
22:26
from the Soviet Friendship Society. They
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paid for the trip, and Samantha
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gave a brief press conference for the thirty
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or so reporters who would follow her on
22:35
her trip. He promised me that
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he wouldn't He wouldn't start a
22:40
war. Russia wouldn't start a war, and we America
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says that they won't start
22:45
a war either. Then how
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can we keep making both for a warfare no
22:50
one started? According
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to Samantha's mother, the Smith's Soviet
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hosts asked the family what they'd
22:57
like to see, and then proceeded
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to help the family what they were going to see.
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Samantha visited Lennon's tomb, She
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tried chicken Kiev. She met Valentina
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Tereshkova, the first female cosmonaut.
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Not everything went as planned. At
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one point, the Soviet made limousine
23:16
baring the Smith's broke down. It
23:18
was hastily replaced. Now,
23:21
the US government avoided taking
23:23
any official position on Samantha's
23:25
trip, not wanting to co sign a
23:27
Soviet propaganda ploy. I
23:30
think they were very worried because, you
23:32
know, there could have been an accident. She
23:35
could have been a tool of the Soviet Union, a
23:37
propaganda duke. Yes, exactly
23:39
Before they even left on their trip, the
23:41
Smith family was flooded with letters,
23:44
many from relatives of Soviet Jews
23:47
desperate to leave the country. The
23:49
family shied away from any particular
23:51
cause beyond peace, but passed
23:54
a packet of the letters along. They
23:56
two were worried about Samantha being
23:58
a propaganda pawn. Once
24:01
during the trip, a group of students asked
24:03
Samantha to sign a petition that
24:05
condemned US foreign policy,
24:08
but one of her Soviet guides swooped
24:10
in before she could sign it. When
24:12
Samantha and her parents visited Red
24:14
Square, her father Arthur, was asked
24:17
to lay a flower wreath on the tomb
24:19
of the Unknown Soldier, a monument
24:21
to the Soviet World War two dead. Afraid
24:24
to offend his hosts, he went ahead
24:26
and did it. Fortunately this
24:29
was before Twitter. Be
24:31
glad Samantha
24:36
was already a household name and
24:38
face across the Soviet Union. As
24:41
she put it herself, it's a funny feeling
24:43
to see articles about yourself with pictures
24:45
in a newspaper you can't read. Most
24:48
surprising to the Russian readers following
24:50
her every move, Samantha had
24:52
been invited to Camp ar Tech on the
24:54
Crimean Peninsula. It's a place
24:56
every Soviet kid dreamed of going.
25:00
ARC Tech is one place that Soviet leader
25:02
Urion drop Off really wanted Samantha
25:04
to see, to meet and talk with kids
25:06
her own age, and to see for herself
25:09
that everyone in the Soviet Union wants
25:11
peace and friendship. When
25:16
it was Natalia Rosten, I'm a teacher. It's
25:19
been a long time since I've sat in
25:22
a second grade classroom chair. It's
25:25
actually been I guess, uh
25:27
forty five years. But it feels
25:30
nice. Yes, I'm sitting in a chair
25:32
made for a second grader. And no,
25:34
it actually doesn't feel nice. Yeah,
25:37
and it's the right size for this desk with
25:39
the chairs and totally needs won't fit. Natalia
25:42
Roston now teaches second grade in
25:44
Los Angeles, but during Samantha's
25:47
visit, she was a Soviet kid raised
25:50
in the city then called Lennon Grad
25:52
and a camper at Camp ar Tech.
25:55
I think you and I around the same age. What year were
25:57
you born? As
25:59
was I teen? Sixteen nine one January?
26:04
Oh yeah, I sure you. My parents didn't
26:06
go to Woodstock, There's no
26:09
way. Natalia was the
26:11
daughter of an engineer and an English
26:13
teacher. She felt lucky to be at ar
26:15
Tech since it was the crown jewel
26:17
of what we're known as pioneer camps.
26:20
I think boy Scout or Girl Scout camp,
26:22
but communist. Was it a pretty
26:25
big deal when you found out you were going to go, oh
26:27
yeah, It was pretty big guilt
26:29
to me, and it was pretty big guilt to my friends. We were all extatic
26:32
because it was it was like winning a lot of I mean, it was
26:34
a huge privilege. Natalia
26:36
was not from the elite. When
26:38
I got to camp, I found out that
26:40
there was a group of kids from political
26:43
elite that were the year of the year of the year.
26:45
They treated Artech as a regular summer
26:47
camp, but most of us,
26:50
we were from different backgrounds, from all over
26:52
the Union, and most of the campers
26:54
that summer had never even met in American
26:57
They got the whole part of our Artech camp
26:59
together at an assembly and the said,
27:01
guess what, there's this girl whose
27:04
personal guests of all of you, of our premier
27:06
and she's coming to visit our tech
27:08
and guess what, We're so lucky because she's going to be guest
27:11
in our camp, and what
27:13
do you think? And we were we were crazy.
27:15
We started. We started cleaning our door
27:17
right away. We started like ironing our uniforms
27:19
right away. In Russia, when when
27:21
any guest comes, it's a big deal. When a foreign
27:24
guest comes, it's a triple big deal. And when the personal
27:26
guest of a premier comes. We were just through
27:29
in seventh Heaven. And the fact that she was
27:31
American made it even more. Yeah, it was
27:33
a big deal because Russian propaganda
27:36
was saying this that American people are peace
27:38
loving people, but the government is brainwashing
27:41
them to believe that we're the enemy. And
27:43
so we thought the cementy is gonna arrive
27:46
and she was gonna look at us like we were
27:48
the enemy. And so then your job,
27:50
as it were, was just to change your mind
27:53
and to show who we really really are, you
27:56
know, our hospitality and how great the country
27:59
is. Because thirteen year
28:01
rold In Natalia spoke more English than
28:03
anyone else, she would be Samantha's
28:05
camp buddy and deliver the welcome
28:08
speech before thousands of campers.
28:10
I had to memorize this speech because my English
28:13
wasn't fluent. It was very
28:16
Rudimentaria. Were you nervous when you delivered
28:18
it? I
28:21
was petrified. My mouth was dry. I
28:23
was yeah, especially like you know,
28:25
the camp counselors. They were young, but they acted like Russian
28:27
grandma's. They would like, spit polished my forehead
28:29
and make sure that everything is perfectly. There was not. There
28:32
was not a wrinkle. I wouldn't They wouldn't let me sit
28:34
some there would There wouldn't be like a wrinkle in my shirt. My
28:37
my ribbons and my my braids were bigger
28:39
than my head. I mean it was.
28:42
It was a huge deal because you were
28:44
essentially you were the lead of the welcome
28:47
committee here. Well, they told me that was
28:49
the face of the country.
28:51
It was to be a simple welcoming ceremony
28:53
for Samantha at r Tech, a Sylvia youth
28:56
camp. But oftentimes the world's largest
28:58
country does simple things and way.
29:00
In this case, two thousand uniformed
29:02
young people and the Communist youth group known as
29:04
the Young Pioneers filled every seat
29:07
of an outdoor theater. It's the same clap and give
29:09
their American guests or warn hello. Now,
29:13
at least Natalia spoke some English.
29:16
Remember Samantha spoke no
29:18
Russian. But Natalia says
29:20
that hardly mattered. I
29:23
remember They was so easy, Like it's
29:25
like it's if we knew each other the whole life.
29:27
It was so easy to kind of communicate,
29:30
even though the language abilities were very limited.
29:32
Just smiling and trading things
29:34
and um, you know, sharing jokes
29:37
and sharing our opinions about cafeteria
29:39
food, about the boys and out troop, about
29:42
bathing suits, me just fivorite.
29:44
Everything was so easy. Although
29:46
she would only be staying for four days. Samantha
29:49
asked to where the Pioneer uniform.
29:52
She was given the uniform with the blue scarf
29:54
for visitors instead of the red one
29:56
worn by Pioneer members. She
29:59
also wanted to sleep in the cabin with the
30:01
other campers. Do you remember
30:04
when the lights went out? Were you quiet or was there
30:06
giggling and whispering and you know, tiptoeing
30:09
around the room and our camp counselor going if
30:11
I have to walk in there one more time? Are
30:13
you're gonna have you know, actual extra duties
30:15
tomorrow? All of that happened
30:17
you, Yes, I would be disappointed
30:20
if there had been no giggling. We
30:22
were so excited. Everybody was. She was excited. We
30:24
were excited me And what was she
30:26
curious about? Everything.
30:28
She wanted to know what kind of music we were listening.
30:30
She wanted to know what kind of books we were reading.
30:33
She wanted to know what kind of sports were
30:35
playing, what kind of dances with dance, you know
30:37
everything. She wanted to do everything. Natalia
30:40
played Italian pop music for Samantha
30:43
like Total Contunio, and
30:49
Samantha played her favorite music at the time
30:52
for Natalia. I can remember the
30:54
cars were huge that summer. I'm
31:00
guessing this was all on cassette tape. Did
31:03
you talk about politics? Was
31:06
that sort of understood or you just weren't interested. Once
31:09
we saw her, we understood that she doesn't
31:11
think we want war and she doesn't
31:13
want war, So it was it was unnecessary.
31:15
It was just never came up because we felt
31:18
that it was not necessary to discuss.
31:20
On Samantha's second day at ar Tech,
31:22
she and other campers wrote out into
31:24
the Black Sea to participate in
31:27
an artech tradition. We would
31:29
write the message with our most sacred
31:32
wish and we would
31:34
see it in this little glass bottle
31:36
and toss it overboard. So
31:39
most kids would We wish for, you know, end
31:41
of starvation. We wish for health, We
31:43
wish for um bright
31:45
future. You know things like that, Samantha
31:48
wrote on her card, I am for peace
31:51
in my lifetime. On the boat,
31:53
they sang a favorite Soviet children's
31:55
song, May They're always
31:58
be sanshine me They're always
32:01
be blue Sky. May They're always
32:04
be Mommy. May They're always
32:06
be me? May
32:12
there always be Sunshine is based
32:15
on a short poem, a Plea for
32:17
Peace, by a four year old Russian
32:19
boy. The song has been performed
32:21
all over the world, translated
32:23
into many languages. The
32:25
kids here and all the people here
32:27
are really much like Americans
32:31
except for the language. And I
32:34
didn't have any trouble um making
32:37
friends. Images
32:39
of Samantha smiling and playing
32:41
in the Black Sea alongside her young
32:43
pioneer comrades delighted
32:46
Soviet audiences, but left
32:48
some viewers in her home country uneasy.
32:51
A CBS report pointed out activities
32:53
at our tech Samantha wasn't being
32:56
shown. These young pioneers
32:58
are out on a different kind of extra size,
33:00
learning to patrol the beaches day and night,
33:03
learning to handle the automatic weapons they carry.
33:05
As part of their summer session at the exclusive
33:08
camp, they are trained by a special section
33:10
of the secret police, the KGB border
33:12
patrols, But for Samantha
33:14
there will be no night patrols on lonely beaches.
33:17
Instead, a festival of clowns and laughing
33:20
bears at an evening concert where
33:22
the slogan is peace and friendship. On
33:25
Samantha's final night at Artech, a
33:27
big Soviet send off. I
33:29
shall my new international friends,
33:32
but we will remain friends. Prossy.
33:35
Let our countries be friends too. Satday,
33:38
I hope to return. Samantha
33:45
says she has been very impressed by the Soviet
33:47
Union. Although her routine is tiring, the
33:49
Soviets seemed to want to show her everything they
33:51
can in tightly packed days. There
33:54
is still no answer to her most important wish
33:56
while in the Soviet Union, a visit with Leader
33:59
Urien drop off Of. On her
34:01
last full day in the Soviet Union,
34:03
Samantha got the news and drop
34:05
Off was unable to meet her. She
34:08
said that he was sorry that he couldn't meet
34:10
with me, and he was just too busy,
34:13
and he wishes me um
34:17
quote for no war and good health. In
34:19
fact, the Soviet leader was already
34:22
dying from kidney failure. There
34:25
had been talking to Samantha, meeting and drop off.
34:28
In retrospect, you think it's good that that meeting didn't
34:30
work out. Does
34:33
it really matter? It might have
34:35
mattered to the political elite, but what
34:37
she wanted to accomplish, I don't think it
34:40
really matter whether she met a or not. And
34:43
what was the goodbye like when you had to say
34:45
goodbye to Samantha. Well, we thought
34:47
that she was going to come back, you know, we thought that maybe
34:49
in a few years they come and visit again. It
34:51
wasn't. It wasn't like a farewell goodbye
34:53
was goodbye for now, I see you later. When
34:58
Samantha landed back in Maine on July,
35:03
more than three hundred people greeted her
35:05
at the airport. She walked down a red
35:07
carpet and wrote a limousine back home.
35:10
On programs like The Phil Donna Hugh Show,
35:13
Samantha reflected on her peace mission
35:17
obviously one of the reasons you wrote this letter. As she felt
35:19
a little scared. I think,
35:21
as you said, be less scared. Yeah,
35:24
really, I don't think I was scared anymore at
35:26
all. What do you
35:28
mean? What? Oh?
35:31
I went to Russia and
35:34
the Soviets and me and
35:36
I got to know each other,
35:40
and they just joined nice people tonight,
35:42
or at least the people I met on
35:45
the other side of the break the conclusion
35:48
of Samantha's story,
36:03
So kids are pretty much the same every where you thinking,
36:07
Unfortunately you didn't get to meet Uri
36:10
Andropov, did you know. Less
36:12
than a week after returning from her trip
36:14
to the Soviet Union, Samantha Smith
36:16
was back on Johnny Carson. Samantha
36:19
told Johnny about her new friend Natalia,
36:21
who back then went by the nickname Natasha.
36:24
You can think you're gonna keep in contact through letters
36:26
within your fringe. Min Oh, We're
36:29
not nowhere close to being definite
36:32
about this, but I made a really close friend
36:34
Natasha that we might invite
36:37
her to America sometimes. He that would be nice.
36:39
When it may have been Samantha's second
36:41
time on the Tonight Show, but she wasn't
36:43
the least bit jaded in both
36:46
instances. There's something
36:49
so just reassuringly,
36:51
refreshingly normal, all
36:54
right, yes, and love. It is such a
36:56
magical age. That's Lori
36:58
Labarre again from the State Museum.
37:01
And I don't think it would have been as successful
37:03
if it had been a teenager. And I
37:05
think really that what we needed was an eleven year old
37:07
to do this? Why because she
37:10
was guileless? She was just what
37:12
you saw is what you got. She was a cheerful,
37:14
happy, smart kid. She
37:17
wasn't a morose seventeen year old listening
37:19
to the Smith's love the Smith's mother. But
37:27
any afterglow in this country from
37:29
Samantha's trip faded quickly.
37:32
Just forty one days after her return,
37:35
a horrific international incident
37:38
on September one,
37:40
the Soviet military shot down
37:42
a Korean Airlines jetliner that
37:44
had drifted into Soviet air space while
37:47
flying between Anchorage and Soul. All
37:50
two hundred sixty nine civilians,
37:52
including a US congressman, were
37:55
killed. Whatever
37:57
goodwill and drop off had engendered
37:59
in the way vanished. Some
38:02
anger was directed at the Smith's Samantha's
38:05
father, Arthur, conveyed the family's
38:07
horror at the massacre, but defended
38:10
the need for peaceful dialogue as
38:12
more important than ever. In
38:15
December of Samantha
38:18
and her mother were invited to Japan
38:20
to address an international children's
38:22
symposium. She wasn't
38:24
in school as much anymore. That's
38:27
childhood friend Sarah Warren again.
38:30
She was always off sort of doing another
38:32
events, which was undoubtedly
38:34
even more educational than school.
38:36
I think that the education she
38:39
was getting was pretty profound
38:41
for for a child. So um
38:45
yeah, I mean her life just completely transformed.
38:49
Most people know me as the girl who want to Russia,
38:51
but now I'm going to Washington. The
38:56
Disney Channel hired Samantha to
38:58
interview most of that year's Democratic
39:00
presidential candidates, including
39:02
Jesse Jackson, George McGovern and
39:05
former Florida Governor Ruben Ask
39:07
you, how do you feel about inviting
39:09
the Soviets over here to talk about peace.
39:12
I think that there's no reason that this this country,
39:15
and the Soviet Union can't get together and start seeking
39:17
at more commonality adventures. With
39:20
all this exposure, perhaps it was inevitable
39:23
that Hollywood would come calling.
39:26
Sarah
39:29
Warren remembers when Samantha began
39:31
acting, appearing in an episode
39:33
of the CBS sitcom Charles
39:35
in Charge, which we were all very jealous
39:37
about because we all had a crush on Scott Bao
39:39
at the time. Soon
39:43
after, she was casting Lime Street,
39:46
a weekly action adventure series
39:49
starring actor Robert Wagner. I
39:52
was very flattered that you asked me to do this, And
39:54
when it comes to Samantha Smith, I'll
39:57
do anything. I met Robert
39:59
Wagen. I grew up watching him on TV's
40:02
Heart to Heart near his home in Aspen,
40:04
Colorado, inside the historic
40:06
hotel Jerome, So tell us
40:09
a landmark. You know that I stayed
40:11
here at nine, Wagner
40:14
says. The producers of Lime Street, Harry
40:16
Thomason and Linda Bloodworth. Thomason
40:19
had first seen Samantha on Johnny
40:21
Carson. Linda had seen her
40:24
and she thought she was, you know,
40:26
just so marvelous
40:29
and had this great quality, and you
40:31
know, the camera just drank her in. I
40:34
meant Samantha, I
40:36
could see exactly what they were talking about.
40:39
In the series, Samantha played Elizabeth
40:41
Culver, the spunky daughter of
40:43
a jet setting insurance investigator
40:46
played by Wagner. Yes,
40:52
are you going to Mary? Why
40:56
not? Because I've already
40:58
got enough press, which get upstairs
41:01
and take that with Some
41:04
people felt betrayed that the little
41:06
diplomat had gone Hollywood. Her
41:08
mother, Jane told the press at the time that
41:10
it wouldn't be natural for Samantha to devote
41:13
her life to Soviet American relations,
41:16
after all, she was a kid. Jessica
41:20
Dwyer remembers when Samantha had just
41:22
gotten her braces off right
41:24
before she left for London, where Lime
41:26
Street was shooting. She was
41:28
in the midst of packing and
41:30
getting things together, and
41:33
sam was just making peace suit at
41:35
the stove, something
41:38
that was soft and wasn't going
41:40
to hurt her. She just a
41:43
typical teenager. Is
41:46
that the last time that you saw her? That
41:49
was the last time that we saw
41:51
it. She left the next day.
41:54
In August, Samantha
41:57
finished filming her fourth episode of
41:59
Lime Street. On she
42:02
and her father Arthur, flew home. Their
42:05
commuter plane from Boston was on its
42:07
final approach to Auburn Lewiston,
42:09
Maine Airport when it crashed just
42:11
two hundred yards from the airport's runway.
42:15
All eight people on board perished.
42:18
This morning, thirteen year old Samantha
42:20
Smith is dead, the victim of a plane
42:22
crash last night in her native Maine. Just
42:25
recently, she began work on a new ABC
42:27
TV series with actor Robert Wagner.
42:30
You know, Samantha maids
42:33
such an impression upon people
42:35
of wand to be taken like that, who
42:38
was unbelievable
42:41
to us, unbelievable, unbelievable
42:46
to young Jessica Dwyer in Maine. It
42:49
took me a long time to accept it.
42:51
Um and I'll share this. I haven't shared it with very
42:53
many people. I always thought that she and
42:56
her dad escaped the
42:59
plane and we're in a and
43:01
that she and her dad were
43:03
living this great life. And I
43:05
think that was just my way
43:08
of keeping
43:11
her memory alive. The
43:13
news was barely comprehensible
43:15
to young Natalia. In Leningrad. There
43:18
was a beautiful a social author who said
43:20
that chazz Ear does not comprehend
43:22
the word death. I mean, I knew
43:25
she died, but I really didn't process
43:27
the loss. Hundreds of mourners
43:30
gathered today and Augusta, Maine, at a memorial
43:32
service for Samantha Smith, the schoolgirl
43:35
whose plea for peace made her internationally
43:37
famous. Well, it was difficult
43:39
to even get into the church because
43:42
there were so many people there. I just
43:45
remember being really sad
43:48
for Jane because she lost
43:50
her family. The
43:53
first Secretary to the Soviet Embassy
43:56
in Washington was among the mourners
43:58
and described Samantha in his eulogy
44:01
as a brilliant beam of sunshine
44:05
that millions old mothers and fathers
44:07
and kids back in
44:09
the Russian in the Soviet Union share
44:12
the being of this tragic loss.
44:16
President Reagan, who had avoided mentioning
44:18
Samantha in public, sent condolences
44:21
to Samantha's mother, Jane in Maine, writing
44:24
that millions of Americans would remember
44:26
Samantha's smile, her idealism,
44:29
and her quote unaffected sweetness
44:32
of spirit. Samantha
44:36
Smith's pioneer uniform, the
44:38
one she wore at Artech, is still
44:40
at the Main State Museum with Lorie
44:42
Labar. When I first walked
44:44
in and saw it, I gasped. The
44:47
uniform. It's just so small,
44:50
just eleven year old girl. It's a reminder
44:53
just this was a small girl. This was a little
44:55
kid. Um, this wasn't an adult.
44:58
This was just someone who
45:00
had asked a question. Samantha's
45:04
death at such an unnaturally young
45:06
age effectively froze her
45:09
legacy as that of a child's peace
45:11
activist. Here's Sarah Warren
45:13
again. As tragic and awful
45:15
as it was that she
45:18
died, it really did draw more
45:21
attention to her trip
45:23
and to what she had done. And
45:26
many of us then found
45:28
a way to make meaning somehow of
45:31
her life and her passing by
45:34
trying to carry forward what she had started.
45:37
All right, So what impact did
45:40
Samantha's improbable life
45:42
as a child diplomat make well
45:44
for starters. Jane Smith established
45:47
the nonprofit Samantha Smith Foundation
45:50
to promote international understanding
45:52
through youth exchange trips. One
45:54
year after Samantha's death, Sarah
45:57
Warren, along with Jane Smith,
45:59
and a group of classmates from Maine, made
46:01
their own trip to the Soviet Union. Well
46:04
essentially, we were following on the same footsteps
46:06
of Samantha and her parents, the same
46:08
trip that they had done. They started
46:10
to understand what their friend had meant
46:13
to the rest of the world. Although
46:15
she had been getting a lot of media coverage in the
46:17
US, she was just downright famous
46:20
in the Soviet Union. Everybody there knew
46:22
who she was. Jessica Dwyer
46:24
went on that trip too. Mobs
46:27
of people just wanted to
46:29
be near us and around
46:31
us. Everywhere we went. We
46:33
were just greeted by so
46:36
many people that wanted to talk
46:38
to us, touch us because
46:41
we knew Samantha. Samantha
46:43
was memorialized in Maine. A
46:46
statue of her holding a dub stands
46:48
outside the main State Museum in Augusta,
46:51
But in the Soviet Union, Samantha's
46:54
face appeared on a postage stamp, on
46:56
murals, her name graced
46:58
schools, street, a flower,
47:01
a ship, a diamond, and asteroid.
47:04
Even a mountain was named in her honor. Samantha
47:07
Smith. Even now she is more popular than
47:10
she is here. Why do you think that is?
47:13
Because maybe for us she was a symbol of hope
47:15
that the relationship could be of
47:17
friendship between the two countries.
47:20
And that gets it perhaps her greatest
47:22
and most ironic legacy.
47:25
By inviting Samantha to the Soviet
47:27
Union, Urie and drop Off was
47:29
hoping to improve the image of his regime
47:32
in America, but the
47:34
opposite kind of happened. American
47:37
University professor Anton Fetiyashin,
47:39
who grew up in the Soviet Union, put
47:42
it this way. Quote The fact
47:44
that Samantha Smith is still remembered
47:46
in Russia but is mostly forgotten
47:48
in the US is testament that
47:50
and drop offs original idea of
47:52
projecting an image to the world was
47:55
reversed by Samantha projecting
47:57
herself much more successfully
47:59
on a Soviet society. In
48:01
other words, Samantha wasn't anyone's
48:04
dupe. By
48:06
the way, the Soviets ended up exporting
48:08
their own version of Samantha In
48:11
ninety six, fifteen year old
48:13
Katya Licheba visited the US
48:16
on a peace mission. Katia actually
48:18
met Reagan briefly, but the
48:20
Soviet Samantha didn't have the
48:22
original Samantha's curiosity or
48:25
charisma and quickly fizzled
48:27
in The Samantha Smith
48:30
Foundation inaugurated its own
48:32
World Peace Camp in Poland
48:34
Spring Maine. Two years later,
48:36
Natalia Rostin visited the
48:38
camp. Was that your first trip to the United
48:41
States was first
48:43
trip abroad? And what did you
48:45
think of Maine when you saw it?
48:47
Beautiful? It
48:51
the nature kind of reminded me a little bit
48:53
of Russia, but not quite like Russia. Lots
48:56
of like the citious trees, you know, the
48:58
greenery view doful, like rolling
49:00
hills. Is there anything you ate
49:02
there that you've never eaten before? Lobster.
49:08
More than thirty years later, as a second
49:10
grade teacher, Natalia includes
49:12
Samantha in her curriculum.
49:15
We learned the story and I always tied into
49:17
writing. I tell you know, writing is your superpower.
49:20
You know you want to change the world, you need to learn how to write.
49:23
Look at Samantha, you know she made a huge
49:25
impact because she was write. She knew she
49:27
knew what she wanted to say, and she says she stay did it clearly.
49:30
And how did the kids react to the story of Semanthea
49:33
inspired? They get inspired,
49:35
They get inspired by that. You know, the
49:38
kids have have power working
49:40
on this mobid. I've thought about all
49:42
that Samantha didn't live to see.
49:45
Just three months after she died, President
49:48
Reagan and then Soviet leader Mikhail
49:50
Gorbachev met for the first time
49:52
to discuss nuclear disarmament.
49:55
Just six years later, the Soviet
49:58
Union dissolved. I
50:00
also wondered what Samantha would be doing
50:02
today. When I spoke to her childhood
50:04
friend Sarah Warren back in July,
50:08
it was just a few days past Samantha's
50:10
birthday. Samantha would have turned
50:12
fifty on June.
50:15
And it's
50:19
sorry, it's pretty
50:21
profound to
50:23
think about what she did all
50:26
those years ago. And
50:28
I don't know. I try not to think
50:30
about her too much as an adult because I think
50:32
she did what she needed to as a kid. But
50:36
um, and we want
50:38
a legacy, you know. I'm
50:40
sure had she lived to be fifty, she
50:42
would have been beautiful and she would have been doing lots
50:45
of amazing things in the world. But in
50:48
her, you know, short thirteen
50:50
years, she did more than a lot of people do
50:52
in fifty. So Samantha's
50:55
life was short, But the questions
50:57
she asked in that handwritten letter all
51:00
those years ago, her plea for
51:02
peace are no less powerful
51:04
today. I
51:10
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51:12
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podcast. This episode
51:41
of Mobituaries was produced by
51:43
Aaron Shrank. Our team of producers
51:45
also includes Wilco, Martinez Caccetro,
51:48
and Me Morocca. It was edited
51:51
by Moral Walls and engineered
51:53
by Josh Hahn, with fat checking
51:55
by Catherine Newhan. Our production
51:57
company is Neon Houm Media. Our
52:00
chival producer doing his home state
52:02
of Maine proud is Jamie Benson.
52:05
Our theme music is written by Daniel Hart.
52:07
Indispensable support from Craig
52:09
Swaggler, Dustin Gervei, Alan
52:12
Pang, Reggie Basil, and everyone
52:14
at CBS News Radio. Special
52:17
thanks to Lena Nelson, Mary lou
52:19
Till, Megan Marcus, Barbara
52:21
Quill for her reporting on Samantha's trip,
52:24
and Alberto Robina, and
52:26
our deepest appreciation to Jane
52:29
Smith, the Imperturbable
52:31
Aaron Shrank as our senior producer.
52:34
Executive producers for Mobituaries include
52:36
Steve raise E's and Morocca. The
52:38
series is created by yours truly
52:41
and as always, thanks to Rand Morrison
52:43
and John carp for helping breathe
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life into Mobituaries.
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