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up above. Jade
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Wiley was unwinding at her home in
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Timaru, nestled on New Zealand's South Island,
2:19
at around 9.40pm on 16th September 2021.
2:23
She was
2:26
engrossed in a television show with her
2:28
husband, when they suddenly became aware
2:30
of a commotion coming from somewhere outside.
2:34
The unmistakable sound of somebody sobbing
2:37
echoed from the neighbouring house, followed
2:40
by a loud thud that sounded like somebody
2:42
slamming the door. Curiosity
2:44
got the batter of Jade, so she
2:47
ventured outside and peered through the fence
2:49
in an effort to figure out the
2:51
source of the disturbance. Although
2:54
her view was obscured, she could
2:56
vaguely make out somebody pacing back
2:58
and forth and sobbing in the
3:00
garden next to theirs. Moments
3:04
later the unknown person disappeared from the
3:06
garden. At
3:08
around the same time, Karen and Brad
3:10
Cooper, who lived in the same neighbourhood,
3:13
were alerted to the sound of a
3:15
man in evident distress. The
3:18
sounds quickly became louder and louder,
3:20
and the man appeared to be screaming for
3:22
help. Karen
3:25
and Brad went to investigate, and
3:27
they came across a man out the front
3:29
of a home in the neighbourhood in a
3:31
state of despair. He
3:34
was crying, and kept repeating, is this
3:37
really happening? Timaru
3:53
is a picturesque port city located
3:55
on the eastern coast of New
3:57
Zealand's South Island. With
4:00
its historic significance as a key port, Timmery
4:03
plays a vital role in the regional
4:05
economy, facilitating the
4:07
export of agricultural products. The
4:10
surrounding areas are categorized by sheep
4:12
and dairy farming, which contributes
4:15
to the city's agricultural heritage.
4:19
Along the coastline, residents have scenic views
4:21
of the Pacific Ocean, in
4:24
particular Caroline Bay, which is
4:26
a popular beach along a boardwalk
4:28
that often hosts events. In
4:32
2019, Timmery became the new focus for
4:34
Graham and Lauren Dickerson. The
4:38
couple were from Pretoria in South Africa, where
4:40
they met back in 2005. Lauren
4:44
had studied medicine at the University of
4:46
Cape Town, where she completed her
4:49
degree in 2004 and became a doctor. Her
4:53
colleagues and patients were touched by her genuine
4:55
care, earning her a reputation
4:57
as a physician who went above
5:00
and beyond for her patients. Lauren's
5:03
empathy extended to her profound
5:05
understanding of depression, and she
5:08
provided unwavering support through frequent
5:10
phone calls to those navigating
5:12
challenging times. In
5:15
2005, Lauren completed her rural health practice,
5:18
where she crossed paths with Graham, an
5:21
orthopedic surgeon. The
5:24
two proved to be a great pair, with
5:26
Lauren's softer, introverted demeanor
5:28
complementing Graham's outgoing and
5:31
extroverted nature. Just
5:34
a year after they met, the couple were married, and
5:37
they moved into the wild estate, a
5:39
residential community on the outskirts of the
5:41
city. Lauren
5:44
and Graham longed to start a family, but
5:46
they soon learned that they struggled
5:48
with fertility problems. Seeking
5:51
solace and understanding, they
5:54
found support in South African infertility
5:56
groups and ultimately opted
5:58
to pursue IVF. IVF
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involves the combination of an egg and
6:03
sperm outside of the body in a
6:05
laboratory dish, leading to the
6:07
creation of an embryo that's then transferred into
6:09
the uterus. Despite
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Lauren's enduring commitment through 17 arduous
6:15
rounds of IVF, the
6:17
pregnancy test consistently delivered
6:19
disheartening results. However
6:22
in 2013 they finally had their
6:25
first child, a little
6:27
baby girl who they named Sarah. Tragically
6:30
Sarah's premature birth at 18 weeks
6:33
resulted in her passing away shortly
6:35
after delivery. Her
6:38
death was categorised as a miscarriage due to
6:40
the early birth and Lauren was
6:42
unable to bring Sarah home, which only
6:44
intensified the couple's heartbreak. The
6:49
emotional aftermath prompted Lauren to take a step
6:51
back from her role as a doctor, although
6:54
she continued to support Graham as a
6:56
part-time surgical assistant. Despite
7:00
the couple's grief, they were determined to build a
7:02
family and they eventually
7:04
turned to donor eggs when
7:06
traditional IVF proved unsuccessful. In
7:11
2014 their perseverance was warded with
7:13
the birth of a healthy little girl who they
7:15
lovingly named Lianny. A
7:19
friend Natasha LaRue spoke warmly
7:21
of the couple stating, The
7:23
nicest person pregnancy could happen to is
7:25
that woman. She was really
7:27
just a nice person. She and
7:29
her husband. In
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2018 a new chapter unfolded as Lauren
7:34
discovered that she was pregnant again,
7:37
this time with twins. Carla
7:40
and Maya entered the world in 2019, completing the
7:42
family unit. After
7:47
a prolonged wait, Lianny, Carla and
7:49
Maya became the cherished apples of
7:51
their parents' eyes. With
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their blonde hair and bright eyes,
7:56
the family's joy was shared through
7:58
numerous photographs posted across soap. social
8:00
media. The
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source of their daughter's DNA held no significance
8:04
to the couple, as
8:06
Graham fondly recollected. Lauren
8:09
never expressed any feelings of the
8:11
girls for anything other than hers.
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In 2019, the Dickerson family set their sights
8:27
on new beginnings in Timaru,
8:29
New Zealand. Graham
8:32
had secured a position at Timaru Hospital,
8:35
where the family found a rented home on
8:37
Queen Street, conveniently situated just
8:39
a stone's throw away from the
8:41
hospital. However, their
8:44
plans were temporarily thwarted, as
8:46
the world grappled with the outbreak of COVID-19, causing
8:49
a delay in their relocation. Finally,
8:53
in August of 2021, the Dickerson family packed up
8:56
their belongings
8:59
and made their journey over to New Zealand.
9:03
Liani was now six years old, while
9:05
Carla and Maya were two. Liani
9:07
had assumed the role of a typical big
9:09
sister, showering Carla and Maya
9:12
with love and affection. She
9:14
could often be found holding their hands, cuddling
9:16
with them, and expressing her deep love
9:19
for them. Described
9:21
by her aunt Betty, Maya had a
9:23
penchant for collecting and carrying toys
9:25
and little handbags, earning
9:27
her the endearing nickname of
9:30
Little Bag Lady. Carla
9:32
was described as the brave one among the
9:34
three girls. She
9:37
had faced a challenging start in life with
9:39
a cleft lip. Despite
9:41
the obstacles, multiple surgeries paved the way
9:43
for Carla to thrive. Prior
9:47
to settling into their new home in New
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Zealand, the Dickerson family underwent
9:51
a two-week quarantine at a
9:53
local hotel. Liani,
9:56
Carla and Maya expressed excitement about
9:58
the quarantine adventure. here, embracing
10:01
the prospect of living in a hotel for
10:03
a while. Lauren
10:05
and Graham shared in their enthusiasm, regularly
10:08
updating their Facebook accounts with posts
10:10
about the unique, yet tough
10:12
experience. Graham
10:15
proudly posted a photograph of their three
10:17
girls at the airport, clutching
10:19
a stuffed toy kiwi with their
10:21
smiles brimming. Lauren
10:24
sought some community input, and
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asked for suggestions for skills and quality
10:28
furniture shops to furnish their new home.
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However, the quarantine period proved
10:34
more challenging than anticipated, with
10:37
the family confined to their hotel room for
10:39
fourteen days. Finally,
10:42
on the 11th of September, after
10:44
what felt like an eternity, the
10:46
family were released from quarantine. With
10:50
the freedom to explore, they saddled into their new
10:52
house, and quickly began transforming
10:54
it into a warm and inviting
10:56
home. At
10:59
the hospital, Graham made friends right away, and their
11:01
newfound community embraced them, making
11:04
the Dickerson family feel genuinely
11:06
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Carla and Maya were excited about their
11:15
first day at preschool. Their
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older sister, Lianne, had started Temeru
11:20
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Despite being six years old, Lianne had
11:27
experienced limited schooling due to the COVID-19
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she approached her first day with
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of her girls. Concerned,
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returned home, leading
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her to question the decision to move
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14:33
began to doubt her choice. Safety
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was one of the primary reasons for the
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family's move from South Africa, but
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now Lauren was having her doubts.
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She wondered if they had made a mistake
14:47
in moving halfway across the world. Lauren's
14:51
apprehension lingered as she prepared dinner for
14:53
herself and the girls. Graham
14:56
had a work function that evening, so
14:58
it would just be the three of them. At
15:02
about 7pm, Graham kissed Lauren and the
15:04
girls goodbye and sat off. He
15:07
was excited about the opportunity to meet some
15:09
more of his colleagues and build some
15:11
connections. Shortly
15:20
before 10pm, Graham quietly
15:22
returned home, mindful not to
15:24
disturb the girls who would likely be in bed at
15:26
that hour. The
15:28
home, which was usually echoing with the
15:30
signs of the television in the living
15:33
room, was unusually quiet. Talking
15:37
about Lauren's whereabouts, Graham made his way
15:39
to the kitchen where he found
15:41
her. He
15:43
recollected. She looked
15:45
strange. She looked wobbly, like
15:48
she wanted to fall over. Graham
15:51
asked his wife whether she was okay, but
15:54
she didn't reply. He
15:56
later recalled, I realised that
15:58
there was something strange in the world. her face. It's
16:02
just a facial expression I haven't seen
16:04
before." He
16:06
then asked her what was wrong, and
16:08
she cryptically replied, "'It's
16:11
too late.'" Realising
16:13
that something was seriously amiss, Graham
16:16
ran into Liany's bedroom, which was
16:18
the closest to the kitchen. Liany
16:21
was tucked up in her bed, but
16:23
her face was unusually pale, and there
16:26
was something tied around her neck. Graham
16:29
rushed to her side, but she was cold to
16:32
the touch. He
16:34
then noticed that the thing tied around her
16:36
neck was a zip tie, which had
16:38
been pulled tight cutting off her airflow.
16:42
Graham shook Liany by her shoulders in a
16:44
desperate attempt to wake her up, but
16:46
she was completely motionless. Graham
16:50
then ran into Carla and Maya's bedroom, where
16:53
he found them in the same condition. He
16:56
raced back to the kitchen and retrieved a pair
16:58
of scissors to cut the zip ties constricting his
17:01
daughter's necks. Despite
17:04
his frantic attempts at life-saving measures,
17:07
it became painfully clear, as
17:09
Lauren had warned, that it was
17:12
too late. Liany,
17:14
Carla and Maya were gone. Seconds
17:18
later, Lauren emerged in Liany's
17:20
bedroom. She
17:22
slowly moved towards her bed and laid
17:24
on. Overwhelmed
17:26
by trauma, Graham fled from the
17:29
home and urgently alerted his neighbours.
17:32
He also contacted a colleague and asked them to
17:34
come over and call police, as
17:37
he was unfamiliar with the emergency number in
17:39
New Zealand. Paramedics
17:41
and police swiftly responded to the
17:44
call, with constables Alexander
17:46
Schrader and William Turnbull being
17:48
the first to arrive. Upon
17:51
entering the home, they noticed cut cable ties
17:53
scattered on the floor. Their
17:56
initial discovery was Lauren, who
17:58
required immediate attention. Superficial
18:01
cuts adorned her left forearm,
18:04
and she had ingested an overdose of
18:06
tramadol, which explained her disoriented
18:08
state in the kitchen. Meanwhile,
18:12
Turnbull continued his search throughout the rest of
18:14
the home. In
18:16
the next bedroom, he found Carla and Maya
18:19
tucked up in their beds with a stuffed toy. Liany
18:23
was laying on the floor nearby, having
18:25
been carried there by her father. All
18:28
three girls were devoid of any signs of
18:31
life, and they were pronounced dead.
18:35
Lorn was escorted into an awaiting ambulance,
18:37
where she was transferred to Timaru Hospital
18:40
and reported to be in a stable condition. The
18:44
next morning, detectives made a public announcement.
18:47
The investigation into this tragedy is still
18:49
in its very early stages, but
18:52
we can confirm that no one else is being
18:54
sought in relation to the deaths of
18:56
the three children. As
18:58
news of the triple murders spread across
19:01
the region, Lauren's parents, Wendy and Malcolm
19:03
Fox, provided a statement. They
19:06
said that they were devastated to learn
19:08
of the tragedy before adding. The
19:11
extended families are in a state of shock
19:13
as we try to understand what happened. We
19:16
ask for your prayers and support during this
19:18
difficult time. We would
19:21
also request privacy, as we battle to come
19:23
to terms with what has happened. The
19:26
South African community in Timaru came out
19:28
in their droves to offer support for
19:31
Graham. As an impromptu memorial
19:33
began to grow outside the home the family
19:35
had lived in for just a week. People
19:39
placed on cards of condolences and bouquets
19:41
of flowers, as well as
19:43
teddy bears and trinkets. Martin
19:46
Rheineck of the South Africans in
19:48
Timaru Group touched on the collective
19:51
grief, stating, Our
19:53
hearts are breaking for their family back in
19:55
South Africa and around the world
19:57
who will wake up to this terrible news. Since
20:00
the family had just moved to New Zealand,
20:03
Graham didn't have much of a support network.
20:06
He had only just started working at the hospital,
20:09
and all of his family other than
20:11
Lauren and the girl still lived in
20:13
South Africa. Just
20:16
the next day, Lauren was charged with
20:18
the murders of Liany, Maya and Carla.
20:22
People across the nation were stunned and horrified
20:24
by what Lauren had done, and many
20:26
questioned how a mother could kill her
20:29
own children. According
20:31
to the family's friends and former neighbours
20:34
in South Africa, Lauren adored
20:36
her children. The
20:38
family's former caregiver in
20:40
South Africa, Mandy, commented,
20:43
I never saw any fight in that family or
20:46
anything. We treated each other
20:48
as family. I was family
20:50
too. There was nothing wrong. However,
20:54
those acquainted with the family sense that there
20:56
was more to the story. They
20:59
wondered whether it was the stress of moving
21:02
to New Zealand, or possibly
21:04
from being quarantined for so long. Yet,
21:07
as the old saying goes, appearances
21:10
can be deceiving. Despite
21:13
outwardly portraying the image of a
21:15
perfect mother, Lauren had been grappling
21:17
with mental health challenges. Her
21:21
struggles with mental health traced back to
21:23
her teenage years, marked
21:25
by issues of anxiety,
21:27
depression and perfectionism. School
21:30
life had proved difficult for Lauren as
21:33
she faced challenges in making friends, and
21:35
the resulting isolation left a lasting
21:37
impact on her well-being. Following
21:41
the tragic loss of Sarah, Lauren
21:43
received a diagnosis of a major
21:45
depressive disorder with an underlying
21:47
anxiety component attributed
21:50
to postpartum depression. She
21:53
was also diagnosed with intermittent mood disorder,
21:56
with clinical observations noting her tendency
21:58
to set high standards for
22:00
herself. Utilising
22:03
her medical background, Lauren
22:05
began prescribing antidepressants for
22:07
herself, a practice
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24:14
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The couple subsequently conceived twins, but
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Lauren's mental health problems resurfaced.
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She faced bouts of anxiety attacks, and
24:28
told Graham on two occasions that she
24:30
could do something to the children. Lauren
24:34
openly shared her challenges with friends,
24:37
revealing through text messages that she once
24:39
screamed at the children so loudly that
24:41
at last Liany terrified. With
24:45
the arrival of Carla and Maya, Lauren
24:47
found herself grappling with the demands of
24:49
motherhood, feeling stretched and unable
24:52
to dedicate sufficient time to her eldest
24:54
daughter. As a
24:56
perfectionist, she struggled to navigate the chaos of
24:59
the girl's behavior, their
25:01
playfulness and the energetic running around
25:03
the house. In
25:06
an attempt to support her, Graham
25:08
consistently sent heartfelt messages, reassuring
25:10
Lauren of her worth as a mother. In
25:14
one message, he wrote, You're a
25:16
wonderful mother. You have beautiful children.
25:19
You give up so much for the kids. I
25:21
see it. Despite
25:23
outward appearances, some of Lauren's closest
25:25
friends knew the truth about her
25:27
inner struggles. She
25:30
had confided in them, expressing her difficulties
25:32
in coping with motherhood. In
25:35
one text message, she revealed, I'm
25:38
being traded for depression, but even
25:40
though the medicine works most of the time, I get
25:43
overwhelmed so easily, and the anxiety
25:45
gets so bad that I can't eat,
25:47
sleep or function properly. Adding
25:50
to her challenges, Lauren lamented about the
25:53
unruly behavior of her children in another
25:55
message, describing the twins
25:57
as, like terrors for the past.
26:00
two days. She
26:02
said they were engaging in disruptive activities such
26:04
as screaming, slapping, throwing
26:06
food, fighting and pushing.
26:10
Seeking guidance and structure, she mentioned
26:12
spelling out rules to manage their
26:14
behaviour. It
26:16
was shortly after this that Lauren and Graham
26:18
made the decision to relocate to New Zealand.
26:22
However, as they prepared for the big move, Lauren
26:25
found herself grappling once again with
26:27
her mental health. The
26:30
onset of the COVID-19 pandemic heightened
26:33
stress levels, prompting the
26:35
family to pack up their belongings and
26:37
temporarily move into Graham's mother's home. They
26:41
originally intended to stay for a brief four
26:43
or five days before flying out to New
26:45
Zealand, but their plans were
26:48
disrupted when Lauren's food operation faced
26:50
delays. Meanwhile,
26:52
South Africa was engulfed in serious
26:55
riots, looting and political unrest,
26:57
adding an extra layer of anxiety for
27:00
Lauren, even though the disturbances
27:02
were not directly affecting their location.
27:06
During the pre-flight COVID test, one of
27:08
the girls tested positive, necessitating
27:10
a two-week self-isolation at Graham's
27:12
mother's home. This
27:15
extended period of confinement took a toll
27:18
on Lauren's mental wellbeing. She
27:21
was struggling to eat and sleep, and
27:23
she distanced herself from Graham and the girls. With
27:27
Graham's increased presence due to the
27:29
lockdown preventing him from working, Lauren
27:31
began feeling as though the girls preferred
27:33
him over her. When
27:36
Graham recalled the situation, he noted, She
27:40
verbalised on multiple occasions that she doesn't seem to
27:42
think she's a good mother, and
27:44
I've always reassured her. As
27:47
the move to New Zealand approached, Lauren made
27:50
the decision to discontinue her
27:52
medication. She
27:55
had concerns that the use of chronic
27:57
medication might impact their immigration
27:59
application. considering New
28:01
Zealand's stringent requirements. Instead,
28:05
Lauren opted for a lifestyle and health
28:07
plan to monitor mental health issues, marking
28:10
the first time she had come off medication in
28:12
12 years. She
28:15
noted improvements in a text message to
28:18
friends, expressing, The girls
28:20
are so wonderful, Noy. I haven't cried
28:22
in a long time, and that
28:24
big black cloud is going away quickly too.
28:28
Upon their arrival in New Zealand, Graham
28:30
perceived a positive change in his wife.
28:33
While not fully back to being her old
28:35
self, Lauren appeared to be functioning better. Graham
28:39
actively sought ways to support her, reaching
28:42
out to colleagues' wives to provide a sense
28:44
of community. The
28:47
family received invitations to social
28:49
events, including barbecues and
28:51
dinner invitations, and
28:53
Graham believed that Lauren's struggles were on
28:55
the path to resolution. However,
28:59
the optimistic facade soon shattered.
29:03
Around the same time, Lauren expressed regret
29:05
about the move in a text message
29:07
to a friend, sharing, I
29:09
wonder what the hell we did. Everything's
29:12
so strange here. We're all
29:14
very restless and emotional. Following
29:17
Lauren's arrest for the murders of
29:19
her three daughters, detectives interviewed Graham
29:21
about her mental health struggles. He
29:25
conveyed that while Lauren ensured their daughters were
29:27
well cared for, she was
29:29
never particularly nurturing. He
29:32
explained, She wasn't somebody who
29:34
would pick them up and cuddle them often, but
29:37
she also didn't spank or harm them. She
29:40
cried a lot, and she often couldn't
29:42
say why. Graham
29:44
disclosed during the interview that Lauren had
29:46
mentioned twice the idea of doing something
29:49
to their children, but she
29:51
had consistently sought help, reaching
29:53
out to her psychologist or a doctor. During
29:57
one moment of distress in May of 2019, in
30:00
2018, Lauren expressed feeling like
30:02
she could do something to the babies
30:04
without specifying. Graham
30:07
attempted to comfort her, eventually involving
30:10
her mother in the conversation. Despite
30:14
their efforts, Lauren didn't respond, and
30:16
Graham suspected she had an anxiety attack
30:18
that was fueled by sleeplessness, fatigue
30:20
and frustrations with the children's sleep
30:23
patterns. Though
30:25
things improved temporarily, in July
30:28
of 2021, as the couple prepared to move, Lauren
30:32
broke down again. This
30:34
time she mentioned making an end to it all,
30:37
by sedating the girls and then cutting their
30:39
arteries. After
30:42
a bath that night, Graham addressed her
30:44
concerns and asked if she thought she
30:46
could ever actually do something like that to the girls.
30:50
Lauren said she couldn't, and she
30:52
said that she was just struggling with her anxiety.
30:56
Graham suggested a psychiatric ward, but
30:59
Lauren refused, fearing it would
31:01
jeopardise their plans to immigrate to New Zealand.
31:05
During another incident while living with Graham's mother,
31:08
Lauren admitted to having that feeling again.
31:11
Graham urged her to take her anti-anxiety
31:14
medication, and he said that
31:16
things were turned to normal. Graham
31:19
was obviously very concerned about his
31:21
wife's wellbeing, but she
31:23
had been taking a proactive approach to her
31:25
mental health. Whenever
31:28
she had these feelings or thoughts, she booked
31:30
an appointment with the doctor. Graham
31:33
never saw it in a million years that
31:35
she would ever actually harm herself or the
31:37
girl. After
31:47
Lauren was charged with the murder of her three
31:49
girls, she made an appearance in court. She
31:52
was escorted into the courtroom by two
31:54
police officers, donning a hooded
31:56
sweatshirt and black trousers. be
32:00
calm and she kept her arms folded to
32:02
her chest with her eyes transfixed on the
32:04
floor. A
32:07
South Canterbury District Health Board psychiatrist told
32:09
the judge that it would be inappropriate
32:11
to remind Lauren in prison. Instead,
32:14
the judge reminded her to Hill Morton
32:17
Hospital, where she would undergo a
32:19
psychiatric assessment. Then
32:22
on the 23rd of September, Graham
32:24
spoke publicly for the first time at
32:26
a candlelight vigil outside the family's home.
32:30
He said that his precious angels had been ripped away
32:32
from him in a loss that he would
32:34
carry for the rest of his life. Showing
32:38
true compassion and understanding, Graham
32:40
then said that he had forgiven his wife and
32:43
urged everybody else to do the same. He
32:47
poignantly said, Please
32:49
pray for my lovely Lauren. She
32:51
is a victim of this tragedy as well. The
32:55
community rallied around Graham with hundreds turning out
32:57
to offer their support in the close-knit
32:59
city of Timoroo. Graham
33:03
acknowledged the outpouring of empathy,
33:05
stating, My faith in humanity
33:07
has been restored. I thank
33:09
you all. In this time
33:11
of terrible tragedy and adversity, I can
33:14
only ask for prayers for myself,
33:16
my family, and my friends. Despite
33:20
Graham's family flying in from South
33:22
Africa, their reunion had to wait until
33:24
the completion of the mandatory quarantine
33:27
period. Recognizing
33:29
the financial strain, a fundraising
33:31
campaign was initiated to cover
33:34
the family's travel and accommodation
33:36
expenses. Graham
33:38
took a moment to encourage parents in the crowd,
33:41
urging them to let their children play
33:43
freely and laugh, while emphasizing
33:45
the importance of looking out for one another.
33:49
Meanwhile, a simultaneous candlelight
33:51
vigil unfolded in Pretoria,
33:53
South Africa, outside the family's
33:56
former estate. Attended
33:58
by Lovelands, the event features to South African
34:01
song that was composed by a friend in
34:03
a tribute to the family. The
34:06
fundraising campaign had also been set up
34:08
to cover the funeral expenses for
34:10
Liani, Karla and Maya. Graham
34:14
then returned to South Africa alone in
34:16
November, but had the support
34:18
of all of his loved ones upon his arrival. Lauren
34:23
remained at Hill Morton Hospital, where
34:25
she continued to undergo psychological
34:27
evaluation and psychiatric treatment.
34:31
She had been expected to appear in court in July of
34:33
2022, but
34:35
she didn't show up. Her
34:38
medical team said that it was in her best
34:40
interests. The
34:42
judge ruled that Lauren's murder trial would begin the
34:44
next year, and it would be taking
34:46
place in Christchurch. Lauren
34:49
made her next court appearance in June of 2023, where
34:51
it was confirmed that her defence team
34:55
were launching an insanity defence. They
34:59
shared their intent to call three experts
35:01
who would support a defence of temporary
35:03
insanity, while the prosecution
35:05
said they would be calling an expert who
35:07
held a contrary opinion. By
35:10
17 July 2023, a jury had been selected and
35:13
seated, and
35:16
the trial was ready to begin. In the
35:20
opening statements, prosecutor Andrew McRae
35:22
announced, The Crown say that on
35:24
the evening of the 16th of September 2021, in Timaru, Liannei
35:31
Dickerson, aged 6, and twins Maya
35:33
and Karla Dickerson, aged 2, died.
35:39
They were asphyxiated by way
35:41
of cable ties being applied
35:43
to the neck, and
35:46
the person responsible for that
35:48
was their mother, Lauren Dickerson,
35:51
a recent immigrant to New
35:54
Zealand from South Africa. being
36:01
applied to their neck, the
36:03
Crowns' Day vet, the defendants, smothered
36:05
the girls with their blankets before
36:08
she made an attempt on her own
36:10
life. The prosecutor delved
36:12
into the complexity surrounding Lauren's motherhood,
36:15
attributing her struggles to mental health
36:17
challenges. Despite
36:20
this, McGrath asserted that beneath Lauren's
36:22
mental health difficulties, lurked a
36:25
simmering resentment and anger directed towards
36:27
her own daughters, as
36:29
she perceived them as getting in the way of
36:31
her marriage. He
36:33
cited one text message Lauren had sent
36:36
a friend, which expressed her
36:38
inner turmoil. Three
36:40
kids has really killed all of the passion and
36:42
a lot of the happiness. He
36:46
presented further text messages that
36:48
exposed Lauren's frustrations. During
36:51
the course of the investigation, the defendant's
36:53
cell phone was seized and her messaging
36:55
was analyzed, and
36:57
that messaging, the Crowns' Day, is
36:59
a snapshot into what was running
37:02
through Ms Dickerson's mind. She
37:04
messaged a friend and said, I'm
37:07
going to start DNA on Augmentin,
37:09
which is antibiotics, tonight. She
37:12
woke me up until 3am this morning, but
37:15
I sent her to school, otherwise I would strangle
37:17
her. She mowns all my ******* time,
37:20
kicked me out of bed while I wanted
37:22
to comfort her, was just in
37:24
tears. After
37:26
some further lockdown
37:30
notifications from the South African
37:32
Government in July, she
37:36
sends a message to another
37:38
one of her friends. I
37:40
can't anymore. I'm afraid I'm going to take
37:42
out my whole family if they announce this
37:44
tonight. Then again in September,
37:47
Maya received three smacks on
37:49
her nappy today and sat in the northern
37:51
corner. After that, she was
37:53
well behaved and sweet as honey, so
37:56
disciplines not in the series had their thing
37:58
at their age. know
38:00
there sometimes please." What
38:02
prosecutor McGray admitted that Lauren struggled
38:05
mentally, he said she still
38:07
knew what she was doing, knew that
38:09
it was wrong and that she intended
38:11
to kill her daughters. He
38:14
underscored Lauren's belief that her daughters had
38:16
ruined her life, fuelling her anger as
38:19
she perceived them favouring their father over
38:21
her. It became
38:23
apparent during the opening statements that Lauren had
38:25
been thinking about killing the girls for quite
38:28
some time. She
38:30
had searched for information online about how
38:32
to overdose children and had made
38:35
references to murder and text messages
38:37
to friends. However,
38:39
these friends always took it in a joking
38:42
matter. For example,
38:44
when the family were in quarantine, Lauren
38:46
had texted a friend. He,
38:48
as in God, knows that we might commit
38:51
murder in that small room over those two
38:53
weeks. Prosecutor
38:55
McGray informed the jury that following
38:57
Lauren's arrest, she provided a comprehensive
39:00
and detailed confession to the three
39:02
murders. Lauren
39:05
recounted that after Graham left to meet
39:07
with colleagues, the girls' behaviour
39:09
became unruly. She
39:11
was frustrated as she remarked, they
39:14
don't listen to me at all. I think that's
39:16
one thing lockdown has taught me. I
39:18
don't know my kids at all. Describing
39:21
them as wild, Lauren said
39:23
that they were jumping on the couch and
39:26
ignoring her instructions. She
39:28
told detectives that something within her was
39:31
triggered. According
39:33
to Lauren, stress had been building up since
39:35
their move to New Zealand and
39:38
this was exacerbated by immigration requests
39:40
for additional medical information about Carla's
39:42
cleft palate and her own mental
39:45
health. Feeling
39:47
overwhelmed, she said she even lacked the strength
39:49
to make the children's school lunches each
39:51
morning. Upon
39:54
being triggered, Lauren said she went
39:56
into the garage and retrieved zip
39:58
ties. She
40:00
then gathered Lianne, Carla, and Maya in one
40:03
of the bedrooms, and
40:05
told them they were going to make necklaces with the
40:07
zip ties. She
40:09
then told them, Mommy's very sick
40:11
and she's going to die. I
40:13
can't leave you behind because I don't know who's going
40:15
to look after you. Lauren
40:19
then systematically asphyxiated each girl,
40:22
starting with Carla, then Lianne,
40:24
and finally Maya. Lauren
40:27
explained to detectives that she began with Carla
40:29
the first twin, as she had
40:32
been really, really horrible to her lately. She
40:36
also mentioned that Lianne had fought back, staring
40:39
in a blunt tone. The
40:41
oldest one was very angry, and
40:43
she wanted to know why I'm doing this to them, because
40:46
I'm the best mum and she loved me. However,
40:49
at that point, the girls weren't dead yet.
40:53
Lauren recounted that she proceeded to smother each
40:55
one with a towel and their own blankets.
40:59
Afterwards, Lauren said that she went to take her
41:01
own life. She ingested
41:03
tramadol and made an attempt to cut her
41:06
arm with a blunt knife, resulting
41:08
in only a superficial wound. Despite
41:12
taking more pills, Lauren didn't succeed
41:14
in her suicide attempt. In
41:17
her interview, Lauren shared that when she woke up,
41:20
she was in shock and surprised to be alive.
41:25
During defense attorney Karen Beaton's opening
41:27
statements, she portrayed her client
41:29
as a loving mother, who had faced
41:32
challenging periods in her life. She
41:35
emphasized that Lauren was not inherently a
41:37
bad person. Lauren Dickerson
41:40
was a loving mother and
41:42
wife. She loved Lianne,
41:45
Maya and Carla very much,
41:48
and yet she killed them. And
41:51
as you've just heard, it was violent
41:54
and it was prolonged. But
41:56
afterwards, she put her girls in their
41:59
beds. She topped the men
42:01
with their soft toys. She covered
42:03
them up with their blankets. And
42:05
then she took an overdose of pills trying to
42:07
kill herself. But she failed. Defense
42:11
Attorney Beaton argued that Lauren was experiencing
42:13
a severe mental breakdown at the time
42:15
of the murders and rejected
42:17
the prosecution's version of events and
42:19
motives. She
42:22
also challenged the notion that if Lauren simply
42:24
wanted more time with her husband, she
42:26
would have taken her life only. According
42:29
to the defense, Lauren, in her deeply troubled
42:31
state, believed that when she decided to end
42:34
her own life, she had to take the
42:36
girls with her. The
42:38
defense attorney also disclosed that Lauren
42:40
had confided in Graham and doctors
42:42
about previous thoughts of harming her
42:44
daughters. The
42:47
defense attorney Beaton concluded with a
42:49
tragic acknowledgement. But
42:51
tragically, no one realized how
42:53
well she was until it was too late.
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45:03
was a non-violent person and
45:06
she had sought help from a doctor and she appeared to
45:14
be back to normal. Graham
45:17
attributed her comments to anxiety attacks
45:19
and said, If
45:21
I suspected that anything like this could happen,
45:23
I would never have even come
45:25
to New Zealand. During
45:28
cross-examination by defence attorney Ann
45:31
Tooey, Graham was questioned about
45:33
why he didn't take more action. Defence
45:37
attorney Tooey clarified that the defence did
45:39
not place blame on Graham for the
45:41
events. I want
45:43
to start by acknowledging your
45:45
loss, Mr Dickerson, and
45:48
how difficult evidence
45:51
has been for you. It
45:53
is not the defence case that
45:55
you are to blame in any
45:57
respect for what happened. The
46:00
attorney acknowledged Lauren's struggles before the
46:02
move, citing her weight loss and
46:04
frequent crying. Graham
46:07
replied and said he believed that
46:09
Lauren's anxieties were responsible for her
46:11
emotional state and thought that
46:13
moving to New Zealand, a safer
46:15
country, would alleviate those anxieties.
46:19
One of the main things that appeared to be
46:21
causing Lauren's stress was the unrest that had broken
46:24
out in various parts of South Africa. During
46:27
Graham's testimony, the prosecution entered various
46:30
text messages from Lauren into
46:32
evidence. The
46:34
purpose was to prove that Lauren felt resentment
46:37
and anger towards her children, and
46:39
had done so for some time. In
46:42
one conversation, Lauren was asked by a friend
46:45
about a Netflix show that she was watching.
46:48
Lauren had replied, Very good. Otherwise,
46:51
I'm trying not to murder the twins. In
46:55
another text message, Lauren touched on her
46:57
outbursts, telling a friend, It
47:00
feels like my fuse is so short. I
47:03
want to explode over the smallest things.
47:06
She told her friends that she regularly wanted to
47:09
smack the girls, but she was stopped
47:11
by Graham. During
47:13
a discussion about a couple she knew
47:15
had divorced, Lauren had said she
47:18
would rather divorce her children. She
47:21
then added, I wish I could
47:23
give them back and start over. I
47:25
would decide differently. In
47:28
another text message, Lauren had said she was
47:30
afraid that one day she would smack Lianni
47:32
too hard. In
47:35
another, she expressed, Lianni
47:37
kept me awake until 3 a.m., but I
47:39
sent her to school. Otherwise, I
47:41
would strangle her. She moans
47:44
all the fucking time. In
47:47
various text messages, Lauren questioned how other
47:49
parents seemed to make it look so
47:51
easy when she was really struggling.
47:55
Just the night before the girls were killed, Lauren
47:57
had texted a friend. are
48:00
driving us crazy. They're wild,
48:02
cheeky, and disobedient. Graham
48:05
and I are run down." The
48:08
testimony about Lauren's ominous searches were
48:11
also presented to the jury. She
48:14
had researched terms such as most
48:16
effective overdoses in children, drugs
48:18
to overdose kids, and common
48:20
culprits of medication overdose
48:23
in children. The
48:25
most recent search was just a month before Lauren
48:27
killed Lianne, Carla, and Maya. The
48:31
testimony then shifted to Lauren's frame of mind
48:33
at the time of the murders. The
48:36
defense said that all of the defense
48:38
experts agreed that there was an altruistic
48:40
motivation, meaning that Lauren had killed
48:43
the girls out of love. Dr.
48:46
Susan Hadders had interviewed her over the
48:48
course of four days, and
48:50
testified. She said caring
48:52
for her children was the hardest thing she'd ever
48:54
done, and she found
48:56
managed isolation overwhelming. The
49:00
psychiatrist said that Lauren had ongoing
49:02
thoughts about hurting her children, and
49:04
that these thoughts were her own. She
49:07
noted that Lauren had a profound sense of
49:09
hopelessness, and shared an intense
49:11
fear and worry that something bad was
49:13
going to happen to her or her husband.
49:17
She testified, for example,
49:19
that they would get cancer or die in a car
49:22
accident. Her thoughts of harming
49:24
the children were in that context. It
49:27
was Dr. Hadders' Freidman's opinion that Lauren
49:30
didn't grasp the full extent of the
49:32
situation, that she was
49:34
delusional and psychotic, and
49:36
that she should be considered not
49:38
guilty by reason of insanity. Dr.
49:40
Lauren Dickerson was laboring under a
49:42
disease of the mind to such
49:44
an extent that it rendered her
49:46
incapable of knowing that her acts
49:49
were morally wrong. Two more defense
49:51
experts agreed, with the conclusion
49:53
that Lauren wasn't legally responsible for
49:55
the three murders. Dr.
50:00
Eric Monasterio, a forensic
50:02
psychiatrist who had interviewed Lauren after
50:05
her arrest. Lauren
50:07
told him that she couldn't form a
50:09
connection with her three daughters and often
50:11
felt underappreciated by them. She
50:14
said that when Graham focused on the girl,
50:16
she felt alienated. It
50:19
was Dr. Monasterio's opinion that
50:21
Lauren didn't meet the threshold for
50:23
insanity and that she wasn't
50:26
experiencing psychosis or delusions at the time
50:28
of the murders. He
50:31
further said that Lauren wasn't suffering from
50:33
postpartum depression at the time, but
50:35
that she was depressed. The
50:39
prosecution also called on forensic
50:41
psychiatrist Dr. Simone McLeavy,
50:43
who said Lauren intended on
50:46
Liani, Carla and Maya dying,
50:48
and that she was fully aware of her
50:50
actions. She
50:53
said that any altruistic motivations were
50:55
formed by control and anger at the
50:57
prospect of another woman raising her children
50:59
if she just killed herself.
51:02
She recalled an quote, out of
51:04
body experience like I
51:06
was up above, end quote. At
51:10
no point in time did she
51:12
reconsider what she was doing, explaining
51:15
quote, they would have known what
51:17
I did. Any altruistic motivation
51:19
was, in my opinion, fueled
51:22
more so by a need for
51:24
control and anger. She
51:26
agreed with the other prosecution expert that
51:28
Lauren didn't meet the threshold for insanity.
51:32
Following their testimony, the trial was complete. During
51:36
closing arguments, prosecutor McGray said that
51:39
while Lauren was significantly unwell with
51:41
her depression, her condition wasn't
51:43
bad enough to halt the defense of
51:46
insanity. She
51:48
maintained that Lauren had killed Liani, Carla
51:50
and Maya out of anger and a
51:52
need for control over her family.
51:55
She acted methodically and purposefully, and
51:58
perhaps even clinically. and what she
52:00
said. He also said she
52:02
knew what she was doing and the
52:04
consequences, but still didn't contemplate
52:07
stopping. She
52:09
went as far as to smother them when she
52:11
saw that they were still breathing, after
52:13
she had asphyxiated them with zip ties. He
52:17
said to the jury, Once
52:19
she started doing what she was doing to
52:21
the girls, there was no turning back. The
52:24
Crowns say she was not insane. She
52:27
was not so unwell that she didn't know her
52:29
actions were morally wrong. During
52:32
her closing arguments, defence attorney Beighton said
52:34
that there was no way Lauren's
52:37
actions were murder. Rather,
52:39
they were the actions of a deeply unwell
52:41
woman who couldn't bear to live another day,
52:44
and decided to die
52:46
to protect her children by taking them
52:48
with her. Lauren was so deep into
52:50
depression, so removed from
52:53
actual reality, and distorted in
52:55
her thinking, that
52:57
she decided to die and take
53:00
her daughters with her. She
53:02
further announced, Her beautiful
53:05
girls, who she loved so much. The
53:08
deaths don't have anything to do with
53:10
anger or resentment, and have
53:12
everything to do with a severe mental illness.
53:16
The Crocs of the Krieis truly hinged on whether
53:18
or not the jury believed that Lauren was insane
53:20
at the time of the murders. They had
53:23
been given multiple polarising portrayals
53:26
by defence experts and prosecution
53:28
experts. They
53:31
had four final options. Guilty
53:33
of murder, guilty of the
53:35
lesser alternative of infanticide, murder
53:39
not guilty on account of insanity, and
53:41
infanticide not guilty on account
53:43
of insanity. The
53:46
jury were then sent off to deliberate, and
53:48
they returned to court the next day to
53:50
deliver their verdict. Lauren
53:53
Dickerson was found guilty of the murders
53:55
of Liany, Carla and Maya.
53:59
The jury had not reached a unanimous vote,
54:01
voting 11-1 for a conviction, a split
54:04
which is allowed under New Zealand law.
54:08
Lauren showed no emotion as the verdict was
54:10
announced, but as she left court
54:12
that afternoon she could be seen quietly
54:14
crying. In
54:16
the wake of the verdict, Lauren's parents issued
54:18
a statement which read, We
54:21
would like to encourage families and individuals
54:23
around the world to be aware of
54:25
the symptoms of postpartum depression as early
54:27
as possible, both for yourselves
54:29
as well as close family and friends around
54:31
you. In
54:34
October Lauren provided a statement and thanked
54:36
people for supporting her. While
54:39
she was convicted many people felt that
54:41
the verdict was wrong and that Lauren had
54:43
been suffering from postpartum depression,
54:46
something that's widely misunderstood even
54:48
today. She
54:51
said that she slept with three teddy bears
54:53
that had her children's names embroidered on the
54:55
feet. She
54:57
wrote, I sleep with the teddy
54:59
bears at night to hold them close
55:01
and remember all the wonderful cuddles my girls used
55:03
to give me. Lauren
55:06
Dickison is currently awaiting sentencing
55:09
and she's looking at a sentence of life in
55:11
prison. While
55:15
Lauren Dickison awaits her impending sentence,
55:17
the public discourse surrounding her culpability
55:20
remains sharply divided. On
55:23
one side she is painted as a remorseless
55:25
child killer driven by a
55:27
sinister desire to seize control within her
55:29
own family dynamic. On
55:31
the opposing front, a contrasting
55:34
narrative unfolds. One
55:36
that casts Lauren as a tragic
55:38
victim ensnared by the clutches of
55:40
postpartum depression, a
55:42
mental health struggle that persists in
55:44
being widely misunderstood and stigmatized.
56:08
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