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Monday, January 29th, wherever you get

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your podcasts. One.

2:34

Of the felt so now she was I would offer.

2:37

An hour were that. Nestled

2:44

along the picture asked coastline

2:47

of Lancashire, England Stones Blackpool.

2:50

This. Time has a unique charm.

2:52

the draws in visitors with it's

2:55

golden sandy beaches and iconic landmarks.

2:58

The. Imposing Blackpool Power stands tall

3:00

above all of the other buildings.

3:03

offering panoramic views of the bustling

3:05

pawn. In the vast expanse.

3:07

Of the Irish Sea. Surrounding.

3:10

Black full tower or three Historic.

3:12

Peers North peer, central,

3:14

peer incite fear. Each

3:17

of these peers are teeming with

3:19

amusements ranging from traditional arcade games

3:22

to roller coasters and show's. Over

3:25

the past couple of decades, however, By.

3:28

Pull the seen a decline in it's

3:30

once bustling tourism industry. The.

3:32

Decline is attributed to ferries

3:35

factors including shifting holiday preferences

3:37

is more people opt for

3:39

foreign travel along with the

3:42

rise of budget airlines offering

3:44

she packages. As

3:46

a result, many businesses that rely on

3:49

terrorism. Such. As hotels,

3:51

restaurants and entertainment venues.

3:53

Struggled. To stay lowest. Unemployment

3:57

rates in the seaside tyner higher

3:59

than the. No average.

4:01

With. Limited job opportunities outside of

4:03

the tourism sector. According

4:06

to statistics, Black Full has faced

4:09

various social issues. including.

4:11

High levels of deprivation

4:13

on health inequalities. On.

4:16

The night of the Thirty First of January.

4:18

Two Thousand and Thirteen. Blackpool was

4:20

quiet. The.

4:22

Festive period had just finished and old,

4:24

the Christmas lights and decorations had been

4:26

put away for the next year. I.

4:30

Ever the tranquillity of the night was

4:32

shuttered at around nine fifteen. Pm.

4:35

When. Plumes of smoke billowed end of night

4:37

sky from the rear of the graft and

4:39

high so tell. The.

4:41

Awkward cent of burning Cel Pierre.

4:44

Eventually. Setting off the shrill, we'll

4:46

have the hotel smoke alarm. That.

4:48

Reverberated through the streets.

4:52

Carl. Evans. He. Was the

4:54

owners the nearby Kimber House Hotel. Initially

4:57

dismissed the alarm as a

4:59

routine occurrence. Something. Which is

5:01

common in establishment with kitchens. I

5:05

ever is calm demeanor quickly changed

5:07

when frantic cries could be heard.

5:09

Piercing three, the Lloyd Blair of

5:11

the smoke alarm. Call.

5:14

Me aside side and saw flames

5:16

flickering in the alleyway. Behind.

5:18

The graft and high so tell. A

5:22

local dog walker had stumbled upon the

5:24

inferno and raise the alarm, calling out

5:26

for help. Or

5:29

cries ignited a flurry of activity

5:31

as bystanders rushed over to the

5:33

flames. Caitlyn.

5:35

See others armed themselves with buckets of

5:38

water. And. Confronted the far. Amid

5:41

the chaos. A grim realize

5:44

haitian dawned on coral. As

5:46

the Slims were. At

5:49

first he thought that a mannequin was

5:51

being consumed by the flames. That.

5:53

Soon realize that it was the body of

5:56

a young woman. Most

5:58

of are closing had been burned. Way from her

6:00

pale white skin. And there

6:02

was a large pool of blood surrounding her. Carl.

6:07

Leader Rak of seeing. The.

6:10

Girl was curled up in the fetal position. She.

6:13

Was very small. And. I look like

6:15

she had no legs. Sasha.

6:22

More his son was born on the seventh

6:24

may. Nineteen Ninety Six The

6:27

parents scary and Jin. Month.

6:30

Or she was eight years old and two

6:32

thousand and four. the mars and family moved

6:34

from Bolton to the village is standing. Close.

6:37

To the seaside resort of Block So.

6:41

As the youngest of five children, Sasha.

6:44

Had confidence. From a young age.

6:47

And brother Thomas said of her. Such.

6:50

Was an adorable little sister Alice

6:52

never afraid to put our opinions

6:54

across. No. Matter what the situation

6:56

was. According

6:59

to your mother, Saw. She was the

7:01

cheeky member of the family. She.

7:03

Was a spirited soul who held

7:05

her own among her older siblings.

7:09

As Sasha developed into your. Teenage

7:11

years. Her. Desire for

7:13

independence grew. A

7:15

common trait among adolescents on the

7:17

cost of adulthood. Like.

7:20

Many teenagers, she felt more time with

7:22

friends. And sell the occasional

7:24

embarrassment as being seen with her parents.

7:28

Ever Gary Indiana understood the

7:30

spheres of sauces development. They

7:33

supported her desires for freedom. Radley

7:36

suffering her to outings with her friends.

7:39

Whether. It be trips to the cinema. Or

7:41

shopping excursions. Beneath.

7:44

Her Independence Assad. Saucer. Was

7:47

sad to have a heart of gold. She.

7:49

Was known for our unwavering loyalty to both

7:52

her friends and her family. Or

7:55

friend enjoy. Friend recalled. She.

7:57

Was always there for you and making. You laugh

7:59

when you. Didn't want to. Her.

8:02

Mother genes out of her While when of their

8:04

faults in our series I would also. An.

8:07

Hour were that stood out. Anybody out.

8:10

With. Any sense she was. And.

8:12

That was success. By the age of

8:14

fourteen, Sasha had developed a preference for

8:16

the vibrant atmosphere of Block So. Over

8:19

the queen confines of her home village

8:21

standing. After

8:23

school she and her friends with frequent the

8:26

time. Enjoying the amusements, An.

8:28

Idling away time on the pier.

8:32

One. Fateful day in July of two

8:34

thousand and Ten. However, In

8:36

received a distressing call from police lol

8:38

at home. They.

8:40

Informed her that her daughter was at the

8:42

police station. Saucier.

8:45

One of our friends as inclined to twenty. Two

8:47

year old man in the local par. He

8:50

offered them some vodka. Since.

8:53

Ah said never drank alcohol before.

8:55

She quickly past oil and the

8:57

man raped her. Such.

9:00

As friendly it or said that he couldn't intervene

9:02

because the older man was much. Larger than

9:04

him, And. He didn't know what to do.

9:08

Fortunately, To bystanders intervened.

9:11

Coming. To sashes aid and calling the

9:13

police. The. Twenty

9:15

two year old man was arrested. And

9:17

he was ultimately convicted for his a

9:19

on Sasha. And. Received descendants of

9:22

five years and four months behind

9:24

bars. The.

9:26

Terrifying incident last an enduring

9:28

impact on Sasa. To.

9:31

Transition from interesting young girl. Too.

9:33

Deeply embittered teenager was swift.

9:36

For sushi. Struggling.

9:39

To reconcile with the trauma she endured.

9:42

She. Became a target for believes it

9:44

skill. To

9:46

cope with are overwhelming emotions. That.

9:48

She began skipping classes. Turning.

9:51

To heavy drinking. And engaging

9:53

in self harm. To.

9:56

Escape her turmoil, she started running

9:58

away from home. And.

10:01

You don't and Twelve Sauces Disappear

10:03

and sparked a nationwide search after

10:05

she vanished from home. A

10:08

week later, she was discovered some three

10:10

hundred miles away and suffer. Having

10:13

last with a boy named Tomi. Who.

10:15

Was two years her senior. I

10:19

have a by the subsequent years ashes life

10:21

had fan would be done to stabilize. She.

10:24

Enrolled in filed college to

10:26

pursue childcare studies, A.

10:29

College Saucer was recognized for her

10:32

kind nature and are concerned for

10:34

her peers. She.

10:37

Was diligent in her studies and

10:39

was eagerly anticipating a forthcoming work,

10:41

placement and progression to level two

10:44

and her college course. Saucer.

10:47

Had aspirations as a career

10:49

in childcare. And. She thought

10:51

financial independence from. Her parents.

10:56

And in January of two thousand and thirteen.

10:58

A friend of a friend informed Saucer that

11:01

she could apply for a part time cleaning

11:03

job at a hotel and block. so. The.

11:06

Opportunity was perfect for Saucer.

11:09

Is the part time ours accommodated

11:11

her college schedule. On

11:14

the twentieth of January. Sauce. His

11:17

father gary. Dropped or in the heart

11:19

of block so. You

11:21

often sure of the hotels exact location.

11:24

So. That arranged to meet the manager on

11:26

the high street for guidance. Role.

11:29

In half an hour later, Saucer called her

11:32

father. And requested he pick her up.

11:34

From. Where he dropped her off. Bursting.

11:37

With excitement, sauce informed her father

11:39

that her trial run at the

11:41

hotel had been successful. Kid

11:44

efficiently made up a couple of

11:46

bands, earning tampons from the manager.

11:50

Gary. And dream were a leader for their

11:52

daughter. Especially. Considering the challenges

11:54

she had faced in recent. Years.

11:58

Since. It's ah, she had overcome her

12:00

pass trouble. Transitioning into

12:02

an independent young woman, Poised.

12:05

To pursue her ambitions. Sauces.

12:08

Very first shift at the hotel was scheduled

12:10

for the thirty. First of January.

12:14

That. Morning She attended college as

12:16

usual. After. Her

12:18

classes. Gary picked her up and dropped her

12:20

off at the same spot as the for.

12:24

A agree that he would return to pick her

12:26

up once her shift ended. Though. The

12:28

exact time. Remained uncertain to saucer.

12:32

Promising to notify her father upon

12:34

finishing her shift, Such. A

12:36

bit him. farewell. And embarked on

12:38

block pills, mean streets, As

12:41

Gary watched her disappear. From view. He.

12:44

Drove back home. Dusting,

12:46

And sashes new signed. Independence.

12:58

As the are slipped by. Gary

13:01

anxiously awaited attacks from Saucer.

13:03

Signaling. That it was time to pick her up. As

13:08

dinner approached, he reached i to

13:10

inquire about her expected finish time.

13:12

But. Received no reply. The

13:16

family assume that Sasha was engrossed

13:18

in her Juri days, but they

13:20

anticipated her return. By. Eight

13:22

thirty pm at the latest. They

13:26

were aware that she had plans to attend a

13:28

party with her boyfriend bought night. The

13:31

carrying jane were increasingly easy as

13:33

the clock. Ticked past is thirty.

13:35

With. I word from sauce is. Concerned.

13:39

For their daughters well being. Gary.

13:41

Engine contemplated driving into Block Sold

13:44

to search for her. But.

13:46

They weren't sure which hotel she was working

13:48

as. They

13:50

contacted Sashes boyfriend Danny. He

13:53

mentioned at the hotel manager was a

13:55

man named Daves. It. They.

13:58

Scored three sashes this deck

14:00

friends. And identified a man

14:03

named the Of Men to. Face.

14:05

Job at the graft and high so

14:08

tell seemed plausible. Very.

14:11

Injury and embark towards the graft and

14:13

voice hotel. Located. Near block

14:16

pulls prominent. When.

14:18

They arrived at David. Minto confirmed a

14:20

saucer was working there. But.

14:23

He said that she had left ours earlier.

14:25

Claiming. That he intended to meet her father

14:28

and. Gary

14:31

and were concerned about the possibility

14:33

of an accident. So. Reached

14:35

I to local hospitals? Yes,

14:37

Ah wasn't there. But.

14:40

All of their options exhausted Gary in

14:42

June. call police to report their youngest

14:44

daughter. As missing. Following.

14:52

The discovery of a charred body in

14:54

the alleyway. Police. Swiftly descended

14:56

upon seeing. The.

14:59

Extent of the burns rendered

15:01

visual identification impossible. Setting.

15:05

Up a perimeter of the police called

15:07

and crime scene investigators. And

15:09

meticulously documented. Seen. With.

15:13

Caution: The body was removed and transported

15:15

to the medical examiner's office. For.

15:18

Further examination and identification.

15:22

Doctor Allison a more the

15:24

pathologist. Determined that the young

15:27

woman had suffered multiple stab wounds. To

15:29

her head and neck. Totaling.

15:31

At least fifty east. Defensive.

15:35

Wounds indicated that she had desperately. Fault

15:37

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15:40

Was also evidence that she had

15:42

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15:45

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15:47

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15:50

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the investigation unfolded. Fascists,

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Parents scary and jin. Had.

18:48

Already reported her missing. Detectives.

18:51

Arrived at their doorstep shortly after. Eleven

18:53

Pm that night. Prompting.

18:55

Gary and Ginger anticipate a routine

18:58

missing persons report. However,

19:01

Their suspicions are heightened. As.

19:03

They were told that a body had been

19:05

fine behind the hotel where Saucer had worked.

19:08

And that might be Sasha. The

19:11

last known sighting of Saucer was at the

19:13

hotel. Prompting. Detectives just about

19:16

what she was wearing the day. The.

19:19

Detectives then informed Gary and Gene

19:21

that the closing. So. I did.

19:23

Similar to the charred clothing find on the

19:26

woman's body. They.

19:29

Provided detectives with sashes,

19:31

toothbrush, So. The dna to be

19:33

extracted, Over

19:35

at the lab. It came

19:37

back as a match. The.

19:39

Burnt body. Was. Sixteen year

19:42

old Sasha Marsden. Detective.

19:45

Superintendent Dandy Murphy acknowledge the

19:47

complexity of the investigation. Telling.

19:50

The public. This. Is

19:52

an incredibly difficult and complex inquiry.

19:55

And. We're working to try and build up

19:57

a picture of what happened. In

20:00

a heartfelt tribute. Sashes. Parents:

20:03

Gary and Gene. Express their

20:05

profile. Great steering. Your.

20:08

Words can express how we feel. Are

20:11

beautiful daughter has been taken from us. Through.

20:14

The moving daughter. Sister. Granddaughter.

20:17

Great. Granddaughter. Nice. Cars

20:19

And and Girlfriend. She. Was

20:21

very much loved and her loss is left a

20:23

huge gap the can never be filled. The.

20:27

Murder investigation was promptly initiated

20:29

following the discovery. But. Car

20:31

Engine and Forming Detectives. That saucer had

20:34

started her first shift as a cleaner.

20:36

At. The Hotel that afternoon. They.

20:40

Identified twenty two year old David

20:42

men to as her suppose it

20:44

manager. Inform them Sasha

20:46

had left the hotel ours before.

20:50

I ever saw. His body was discovered

20:52

directly behind a hotel. Prompting.

20:54

Suspicions among detectives.

20:58

It. Was and discovered the david men

21:00

do wasn't the manager. But. A

21:02

handyman, he lived in the hotel. Which.

21:05

Is owned by his girlfriend Rachel

21:07

Butter Worse and her mother. According.

21:10

To Rachel's Mother. Mental. Was

21:13

lazy and obsessed with computer

21:15

games. Often secluded himself

21:17

in the basin bedroom. She.

21:20

Commented. Gave. It

21:22

was very lazy. whenever. There was

21:25

any hard work to be done, he would

21:27

disappear and leave us tourist. On.

21:30

The Day of Sauces says it. Into.

21:33

Was the only person at the hotel.

21:36

Ritual. Returned at around nine pm.

21:39

And she noticed that meant to was acting

21:41

on usual. Instead.

21:43

Of being in his usual spot, playing video

21:45

games in the basement. She. Find

21:47

him in the bar area. He.

21:50

Claimed he out a nose. Which. Resulted

21:52

in stands on the carpet and is

21:54

white thirty. And. He told ritual he

21:57

had claimed it with bleach. You'll

22:00

also observed freshly cleaned went pupils

22:02

in the bar area. Further,

22:04

Arousing suspicion. Aside.

22:07

From Rachel's today's at the hotel.

22:10

She. Held a part time job on

22:12

Mondays and Thursdays. Coincidentally.

22:15

The Days That Saucer was invited to the

22:17

hotel by men to. Men:

22:20

Rachel was informed. By detectives. The

22:22

Sasha had been hired as a cleaner by men

22:24

to. She. Expressed surprise.

22:29

The hotel was undergoing renovations.

22:31

And. Into been closed for the winter

22:34

and therefore devoid. Of any guests.

22:38

With. Minding circumstantial evidence implicating

22:40

men to. He. Was arrested

22:42

and charged with sauces murder.

22:46

He. Was held in custody. Appear before

22:48

blocks or magistrates court on Monday

22:51

morning. Detectives.

22:53

Continued in their investigation. A

22:56

man covered that Minto had met Saucer

22:58

in Blackpool. For. The first time towards

23:00

the end of two thousand and twelve. A

23:04

coral island amusement saucer crossed

23:06

paths with Kimberly to Zoc.

23:08

currently. It was meeting David Mint

23:10

do. Kimberly.

23:13

Introduce us to mint to and the

23:15

trio spend some time together before meeting

23:17

men to his girlfriend ritual. That.

23:21

On the twenty seventh of January. Men:

23:23

To added Sasha on Facebook using

23:25

the moniker. David. A demon

23:28

mint? Do? He.

23:30

Told her that a cleaning job had just come

23:32

up that the hotel where he worked. For.

23:36

The discovery of sauces bought a. Mentor.

23:38

Was one of the locals he ventured

23:40

into. the only. He.

23:43

Said to his girlfriend ritual that there

23:45

was a burning mannequin behind the hotel.

23:49

I ever. Upon closer inspection they realize

23:51

that it was a human body. And

23:55

job and sad to ritual that his dna

23:57

my beyond the body because he had proud.

24:00

it, initially mistaking at 4

24:02

Monica. After

24:08

Mindu's arrest, forensic experts meticulously

24:10

searched the Grafton House Hotel

24:12

and its surroundings. Sasha's

24:16

blood was discovered on Mindu's clothing,

24:19

scattered throughout the hotel, and on

24:21

a kitchen knife. In

24:24

the bathroom, attempts to flush Sasha's jewelry

24:26

and earrings down the toilet were evident

24:29

and her DNA was discovered in the bathtub.

24:33

In the alleyway where Sasha's body was

24:35

discovered, her bloodstained Adidas

24:37

top, pink and white boots, pink

24:40

purse and mobile phone were recovered from

24:42

a waste bin. Despite

24:45

the mounting evidence against Mindu, he

24:48

maintained his innocence. He

24:51

told detectives that he knew Sasha and

24:53

that she had visited the hotel on the 31st of

24:56

January for a cleaning job. Mindu

24:59

claimed that he showed her the ropes before

25:01

excusing himself to the bathroom. He

25:05

alleged that upon his return, Sasha

25:08

initiated a sexual encounter.

25:12

In his words, she points on

25:14

him. Later

25:16

as he disposed of rubbish outside, he

25:19

reportedly heard Sasha yelling from inside. Mindu

25:23

told detectives he rushed to her aid and

25:26

found her suffering from a severe nose

25:28

bleed. He

25:30

claimed to have provided gloves to stem the bleeding

25:33

and Sasha allegedly mentioned being picked up

25:35

by her father at Windsor's. Mindu

25:39

said that he accompanied Sasha to the shop but

25:42

said that her father wasn't there. He

25:45

said he offered to wait with her but Sasha

25:47

allegedly insisted that she was fine and

25:50

encouraged Mindu to return to the hotel,

25:52

which he did. The

25:55

last time he saw her was when her body

25:57

appeared behind the hotel on fire. Minto's

26:01

arrest didn't shock everybody who knew

26:03

him, including Kimberly, who

26:06

had introduced Minto to Sasha. Kimberly

26:10

and Minto had been acquainted since their college days in

26:12

2006, maintaining

26:15

communication through text messages, calls

26:17

and Facebook. Despite

26:20

knowing that she had a boyfriend, Minto persistently

26:22

urged Kimberly to visit him at the hotel,

26:25

often suggesting Thursday afternoons when his

26:27

girlfriend Rachel was at work. On

26:32

the 27th of January 2014,

26:35

just four days before Sasha's murder,

26:38

Kimberly decided to visit Minto at the hotel.

26:42

Initially, the visit appeared ordinary as Minto

26:44

gave her a tour of the hotel,

26:47

showcasing various areas including the

26:50

bedrooms, bar and the room

26:52

he shared with Rachel. However,

26:55

things took a disturbing turn when they

26:58

entered the bedroom, and Minto behaved

27:00

inappropriately towards Kimberly. He

27:03

began trying to sexually touch her, and

27:06

when she demanded that he stop, he

27:08

didn't stop until she managed to

27:10

break free. Kimberly

27:13

chose not to disclose this incident to

27:15

anybody, leaving Sasha unaware when

27:17

she later visited the hotel. During

27:21

Kimberly's departure from the hotel that

27:23

afternoon, Minto reached out

27:26

to Sasha via Facebook, offering

27:28

her the job at the hotel. On

27:32

the 27th of February, hundreds of people

27:34

packed into St. Chad's Church in Poulton

27:37

to say one final goodbye to Sasha. Most

27:41

of the people in attendance wore pink or

27:43

purple, Sasha's favourite colours.

27:47

As Sasha's coffin was carried into the church,

27:50

Swedish Hausmafie's Don't You Worry

27:52

Child emanated from the speakers.

28:00

As his best. Friend Angel said.

28:03

Saucer. Marsden was more than a friend. To

28:05

me. She. Was a sister. In

28:07

a protector. She. Was always

28:09

there for me and never gave up. Bombs.

28:13

Are also read allied by sashes on.

28:16

With. One on deal referring to her as

28:19

the brightest star. The.

28:21

Grief on her face is palpable. As

28:24

she said. Some. Things

28:26

can't be mended. A. Link

28:28

in the chain of a large loving family

28:30

that will never be the same. After

28:34

the funeral, David Minto pleaded not

28:36

guilty disasters murder. Was ordered

28:38

to stand trial. The.

28:42

Murder trial began on the sixteenth of

28:44

July. Two thousand and thirteen. And

28:46

Prosecutor Peter Right. Leroy.

28:48

Thirtieth against a of admin to. He.

28:52

Said that mental with learn saucer to the graft

28:54

and high so tell on car be rude. Under

28:57

the pretext that she would be working there as

28:59

a cleaner, Prosecutor.

29:02

Said that meant to is not in the position to

29:04

harm anybody at the hotel. And

29:06

it kept his meeting with Sasha a

29:08

secret from his girlfriend. On.

29:11

Sasha was at the hotel. And

29:14

do turned on her. The.

29:16

Prosecutor believe that she had rebuffed

29:18

his advances. Much. Like Kimberly

29:21

a couple of days beforehand. And.

29:23

That he then attacked her from behind with

29:26

a kitchen knife. She attempted to leave. Prosecutor.

29:30

Right stated. There

29:32

were a large number of wins share

29:34

fingers, sounds and forearms. Which. Are

29:37

entirely consistent with what are known as

29:39

defensive wounds. In.

29:41

Other words, Sasha had struggled ferociously with her

29:43

assailant and of an effort to see of

29:46

her own list. Sasha.

29:49

Had them being raped and sodomized as

29:51

she lay dying or was already dead.

29:55

The. Prosecutor said that meant to then robbed

29:57

sauces body and have been bog carpet.

30:00

The Underlay: I moved to the alleyway at the

30:02

back of the hotel where he said are like.

30:06

After Sashes body was discovered, Minto

30:08

quickly began trying. To cover his

30:10

tracks. By. Telling his girlfriend that

30:12

his Dna would be find on the body

30:14

because he poked it thinking that it was

30:17

a mannequin. The.

30:19

Prosecutor said the jury that sashes blood

30:21

was discovered on mint to his clothing.

30:24

Tried. To hotel and on a kitchen

30:26

nice. In.

30:28

The alleyway where she was find her bloodstained

30:30

doughty das top. Pink. And white boots

30:32

and paris and mobile phone were discovered in

30:35

a waste bin. Testimony.

30:38

Got underway promptly. With. Various

30:40

witnesses testifying about the far behind

30:42

the hotel. John

30:45

Randall had been visiting his girlfriend at

30:47

the Brooklyn Hotel. Not. Too far

30:49

away from the graft and high so tell when

30:51

he saw the far. He

30:54

was among the onlookers who put out the flames

30:56

with buckets of water. Around

30:59

the same time he observed men do standing at

31:01

the back door of the graft and high so

31:04

towel on his mobile phone. He

31:07

seemed on naturally com. And

31:09

show mistake and Bob when he told mendoza demonic

31:11

and have been found on fire. And.

31:13

Been to respondent. Since.

31:15

When does a mannequin bleed? After

31:19

it was discovered that it wasn't a

31:21

mannequin, but instead sashes forty. Men:

31:23

To invited the group into the hotel.

31:27

He. Testified that meant to appear to be fine.

31:29

And the do is acting like nothing had happened.

31:32

When. At all. Just witnessed

31:34

something extremely traumatizing. Kimberly's.

31:38

As accurately also testified.

31:41

Telling. The jury about the disturbing interaction

31:43

she had with men do in the

31:45

days before Sasha was killed. When.

31:48

To his girlfriend Rachel also told the jury

31:50

a by coming back to the hotel. And.

31:52

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31:58

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33:20

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33:22

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33:24

been hostile Us Stein the Dream. David.

33:29

Mentor was called to testify on his

33:31

own behalf. And on the

33:33

witness stand he made a stunning admission. He.

33:37

Had already claimed to detectives that he

33:39

had consensual sex with Sasha. The

33:41

when he took to the witness stand. He.

33:44

Claimed that he had found her body in

33:46

the hallway of the hotel. His

33:49

version of the vans the similar to the

33:51

earlier one. More. He is allegedly warped

33:53

sausage where her father was picking her

33:55

up. And. Then left her there. Player:

33:59

For this time he said when he returned

34:01

to the hotel. He. Find at

34:03

the back door was last open. He

34:06

testified that he had started cleaning up the

34:09

blood from Sauces nose bleed. When. He

34:11

saw a body see a stolen in the

34:13

hallway. He said that

34:15

this was more last at the point where

34:17

Sashes Knows had been bleeding earlier. And

34:21

exam tone he told the jury. She.

34:23

Was covered in blood. She. Was

34:25

caught to the net. Cut.

34:27

The arms. Her. Hair looked rant.

34:31

Men: Do said that. he checked Sasha for

34:34

a polls for couldn't find one. And.

34:36

Said that. The only thing that came into his

34:38

head at that moment was getting rid of the

34:40

blood. He. Testified.

34:43

I have a thing of by blood. I

34:46

don't like it. Not. A phobia,

34:48

but a queasiness about blood. He.

34:51

Admitted dropping sashes, body and a role of

34:54

carpet and do that. Before. Moving

34:56

right side to the alleyway in a wheelie

34:58

bin. He.

35:00

Maintained that he didn't set fire to

35:02

Sauces body. But. Said that when

35:04

he was having a smoke at the back door.

35:07

He saw smoke emanating from the

35:09

alleyway. Apparently.

35:11

Somebody told him that some you'd set

35:13

fire to a mannequin in the alleyway.

35:16

That. Said when he went to investigate with

35:18

some other locals. He realized that

35:20

it was sauces. Bought a. Mentos,

35:24

Fans attorney shirt Tammy. Asked

35:26

him whether he had any contact with

35:28

Saucer other than consensual. And whether

35:31

he had harmed or killed her. He.

35:33

Responded. Know. And.

35:36

Stressed that he didn't know how she ended up

35:38

starved to death in the hotel. Or

35:40

he was the only person working or

35:42

staying. He.

35:44

Said that he was too afraid to call the

35:46

police because they would immediately assume that he was

35:49

the one who is responsible. Minter.

35:51

With same class and about the incident with

35:54

Kimberly. as his persistent facebook

35:56

messages to her were rather like. He

35:59

told the poor. She. Was a

36:01

friend who I chill boy and hung around with.

36:04

And. I had to sit around Rachel. I.

36:06

Don't have many friends. After.

36:10

Kimberly last following the sexual

36:12

assault. Men: To reach died to

36:14

sasha on theistic. The

36:17

prosecutor said to him. I

36:20

suggest you troll the feel the bulls. The

36:22

A spoke entries in order to find a

36:24

suitable victim for your sexual attention. He.

36:27

Thought you'd be able to have your way with

36:29

each of them When Rachel. Your. Girlfriend

36:31

and partner with oil in the

36:33

premises were empty. He.

36:36

Referred to men do with an opportunist

36:38

in a sexual predator. Following.

36:41

Men to his testimony, the trial drew to

36:43

a close. Closing.

36:46

Arguments were presented with Prosecutor Right

36:48

reiterating all of the evidence against

36:50

men to. He.

36:53

Dot shown is changing version of events

36:55

Reminded the jury that saw Dna was

36:57

signed in the hotel and on the

36:59

kitchen. Nice. And.

37:02

Contrast Defense attorneys, your Danny said

37:04

that the jury. Is.

37:06

It possible that having last a graft

37:08

and voice hotel. Sasha. Marsden

37:10

returned. From. Was there attacked

37:12

by one. Or more assailants. That.

37:15

Whose hands she met her death. And.

37:17

A to his she suffered sexual

37:19

indignity. He.

37:21

Suggested that the testimony from

37:23

Kimberly was unreliable. And said

37:26

that after the incident she had continued to

37:28

message him on fiesta. Although.

37:30

She claimed she hadn't. The

37:33

defense attorney stated. The.

37:35

Defendant is charged. With murder. The

37:38

Crimes Cases.faced with a rebuttal

37:40

of his sexual advances. He.

37:43

Turned to see or for violence. He.

37:46

Then said that as Kimberly's testimony

37:48

was true. When. Men to

37:50

sexual advances to her were repulsed.

37:53

He. Simply let her leave the hotel

37:55

and returned home. He.

37:58

Posed the question, Why?

38:00

On earth does art show evidence of

38:02

a man who committed or is capable

38:05

of committing murder? The.

38:07

Defense attorney further said the just

38:09

the day after Sasha was killed.

38:12

Details. of her murder had appeared on

38:14

C Espa. Somebody.

38:16

Had posted that she had been stabbed. Raped

38:19

and murdered. At.

38:21

The time both men do and his girlfriend.

38:23

Ritual Weren't police headquarters

38:25

being interviewed. He.

38:28

Suggested that nobody else would have known

38:30

the details of Sauces Murder. Unless

38:33

they were involved in the murder. He.

38:36

Said to the jury. There.

38:38

Is an uncomfortable knowledge that somebody was

38:40

sufficiently certain enough to make a posting

38:43

on theistic. It. Is

38:45

the prosecution's case? There was nobody to

38:47

put it out there except the defendant.

38:50

And. He was in custody. The

38:54

jury deliberated for just three hours

38:56

before returning with a verdict. A.

38:59

Fine day that men do guilty of the

39:01

murder of Saucer Marsden. The.

39:04

Sentencing phase followed with Judge Anthony

39:07

Russell's Howling Mint Do. A

39:09

year hotel, you murdered her in the

39:11

most brutal fashion. It

39:13

was a ferocious and sustained time. You.

39:16

Have to out the investigation not only

39:19

lied. But. Sought to cover your

39:21

tracks and then killer your coin. You.

39:24

Have shown a degree of low coming. But.

39:27

It was easily seen three. He.

39:30

Dan Rather Lloyd some victim impact

39:32

statements. including. One from

39:34

Sauces parents. In. Which they

39:36

said. H wounds inflicted upon

39:38

Saucer has stopped at the hard as

39:40

each and every one of her family.

39:44

They. Both said that the manner in which Saucer was

39:46

killed with haunt them for the rest of their

39:48

lives. The.

39:51

Judge also touched on windows lack of

39:53

remorse. Telling. Him that there was

39:55

not a shred of common humanity and new. He.

39:58

Referred to mint do is very. Dangerous and

40:00

evil man. He

40:03

then sentence David Mendota life in prison

40:05

with a minimum sentences thirty. Five

40:07

years. Or

40:10

side of court sacked of Superintendent

40:12

Andy Murray. Have some comments. I

40:15

found him as a really. Cold

40:18

hearted, callous, Evil.

40:23

Individual. Who quite obviously

40:25

just thinks of himself before anybody

40:27

else. And I will go so

40:29

far to say that his Facebook

40:31

title of David a Theme and

40:33

Mintel sort of reflects truly his

40:35

his own character in. The aftermath

40:38

of the conviction, Sauces family was

40:40

resolute in their determination for her

40:42

murdered catalyzed teens. Term.

40:45

Axis and Sauce his sister.

40:48

Surprised. If stamps. Attending.

40:50

The Prime Minister's Question Time at

40:53

Westminster in August. Her.

40:56

Aim was to address what she

40:58

had teamed as increasingly widespread sexist

41:00

and violent attitudes. Towards women. Gemma.

41:04

Highlighted hi various forms of

41:06

media contributed to the objectification

41:08

of women. Leading. To a

41:11

lack of respect for men. She.

41:13

Clarified in the media. I

41:16

want to make it clear that this is not. Avoid

41:18

hearing man. It's. Simply that ninety

41:20

six percent of objectification. In the

41:22

media involved women and.is wrong. Family

41:26

also initiated fundraising efforts for the

41:28

Lung to share see a center.

41:31

Of facility offering forensic medical

41:33

examinations in support. To.

41:35

Individuals. Who report rape

41:37

or sexual assault. Their

41:40

campaign garnered over two. Dollars and Pawns

41:42

which was utilized to purchase personal. Ripple

41:45

Arms. And

41:47

in January of two thousand and fourteen

41:49

david men to appealed his minimum sentence.

41:52

That. The appeal was denied. The.

41:55

Following month Gemma launch to petition

41:57

advocating for improved sex education in

41:59

school. If.

42:02

Initiative arose shortly after the

42:04

Height of Lords rejected a

42:06

proposal for a mandatory personal

42:08

social and health education program

42:10

in state funded skills. Gemma

42:14

commented in the media. We.

42:16

Want to make sex education broader?

42:19

At. The moment it feels like for

42:21

whatever reason, They. Do the bare minimum.

42:24

It. Is crucial. People are thinking avoid things.

42:26

From. As young an age is possible.

42:30

Gemma. Then sat up. Yes matters. And.

42:32

Organization dedicated to raising awareness

42:35

about various issues. Particularly.

42:37

Violence Against Women. I

42:41

ever. She soon became the target of

42:43

numerous rape and death threats on social

42:45

media platforms. And. Response:

42:47

Gemma remarked. What?

42:49

They're doing is proving the. Point we're trying to me.

42:53

Over the ensuing years, Gemma lad several

42:55

protests advocating for an end to violence

42:58

against women. And for improved sex

43:00

education and skill. On

43:03

the tenth anniversary of Sauces Murder. Her

43:06

family champion from into to receive

43:08

a life sentence. Arguing

43:10

that according to sentencing guidelines, he should

43:12

have been given a whole life order.

43:16

They. Also called for legislative changes

43:18

a families to appeal sentences

43:20

for an extended period. Under.

43:23

Current laws families only have twenty

43:26

eight days to appeal a timeframe

43:28

deemed inadequate by Sauce. His family.

43:31

They argued that the narrow window feals to

43:33

climb for degrees. And trauma injured during

43:35

the trial. In.

43:38

An online video. Services.

43:40

Sister's voice their frustrations when says was

43:42

sixteen years old was murdered by David

43:44

Mann said David mean says it says

43:47

her back from the surrender job and

43:49

was she's up. There is such from

43:51

behind seven fifty seven times the back

43:53

to the had and over a hundred

43:55

times to ahead face and neck while

43:58

she lay dying and David Mint. There

44:00

may have. David

44:02

Mitchell was sentenced to thirty five years

44:04

and presents thought was since found out

44:06

that he actually met the criteria for

44:09

a whole life or death but when

44:11

our family of try to appeal to

44:13

send since we've been told that we

44:15

should have applied within twenty eight days

44:17

from census end of last we no

44:19

longer have the right to appeal way

44:22

campaigning for me that's when set a

44:24

time limit in cases of murder and

44:26

so that families like ours can have

44:28

adequate time to appeal this lenient sentences

44:30

of these offenders when. We only

44:32

have three days last ants get

44:34

signatures for this positions. The deadline

44:36

is this Wednesday. Please help us

44:38

by signing the petition and share

44:40

minutes and less. Get Justice for

44:42

Sasha and Justice for of America

44:44

picks him from their families. Despite

44:47

their efforts to government rejected the

44:49

police. Potentially. Lying Mendota

44:51

Be released from prison before turning

44:54

sixty years old. After

44:57

recently navigating through a tumultuous

44:59

period following a sexual assault.

45:02

Saucer more assume the sign leasing light at the

45:04

end of the tunnel. With.

45:06

The support of boyfriend and family

45:08

by her side flourishing in her

45:10

college studies. And nurturing aspirations

45:13

to pursue a career in childcare.

45:15

Sauces. Future seemed promising.

45:19

I. Ever. Sauces. Trajectory

45:21

took a tragic turn. After.

45:23

She was lured to the graft and high so

45:25

tell. That. The Promises. On

45:29

saloon Wednesday of admin to. He.

45:31

Turned on her. Putting her

45:33

life sure in the most horrific

45:35

way imaginable. While

45:54

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45:56

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