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the City of Vancouver in Washington is

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nestled in the Pacific Northwest. It

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sits across the Columbia River from Portland,

2:02

Oregon, offering a blend of

2:05

scenic beauty and urban convenience. The

2:08

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2:11

roots as a fur training outpost

2:13

in the 19th century are preserved

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it's economically robust, it serves

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as a hub for multiple

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industries, from technology and manufacturing

2:25

to healthcare. In

2:28

the summer months, Vancouver bursts with

2:30

vitality, its parks and green

2:32

spaces sprawling with life. As

2:35

the sun sets, the city's nightlife

2:37

comes alive, with clubs and bars

2:39

buzzing into the late hours, while

2:41

festivals such as the Wine and

2:44

Jazz Festival and the Arts

2:46

Music Festival ignite the

2:48

streets with energy. However,

2:50

on the 5th of June 2019, the

2:53

city's typical summer scene took

2:55

an unexpected turn. Despite

2:58

the preceding days of high temperatures

3:00

and endless sunshine, Vancouver

3:02

was suddenly engulfed by a rainstorm.

3:06

Seeking shelter from the downpour, 17-year-old

3:09

Nikki Kuhnhuizen found herself at a friend's

3:11

home that night, accompanied by

3:14

a few girlfriends. She

3:16

had been crashing at her friend's place near

3:18

4th Plain Boulevard for a few weeks

3:20

now, and on that particular night

3:23

she showed up carrying a bottle of vodka

3:25

and draped in a man's coat. Nikki,

3:29

who was usually the life of the

3:31

party, seemed unusually quiet.

3:35

She was preoccupied with her cell phone,

3:37

tapping out messages to her man on

3:40

Snapchat that her friends didn't recognise.

3:43

She mentioned that he was an older Russian

3:45

she had met earlier during time. Nikki

3:49

said they had shared a drink, and

3:51

he had kindly lent her his coat and gave

3:53

her a bottle of vodka. As

3:55

dawn approached the next morning, around

3:58

5.30am, Nikki announced

4:00

she was heading out to meet the Russian man again.

4:04

Slipping into his coat, she bid

4:06

her friends farewell and set off

4:08

on foot into the breaking day. Nikki

4:26

Kuhnhausen was born in Vancouver, Washington on

4:28

the 6th of July 2001. She

4:32

had been assigned male at birth, but

4:34

even as a young child she knew that she

4:36

was different from her classmates. While

4:39

boys in her class wanted to be football

4:41

stars or mechanics, Nikki wanted

4:44

to be Nicki Minaj's hair and makeup

4:46

artist. She

4:48

had always been a confident girl, especially

4:50

in herself, so when she came

4:52

out publicly in the sixth grade, nobody

4:54

was really surprised. With

4:57

newfound clarity, Nikki began to explore

4:59

her gender identity more deeply, questioning

5:01

the expectations that society had placed

5:04

upon her. As

5:06

she developed into a teenage girl,

5:08

she experimented with different ways of

5:10

expressing herself, trying on

5:12

clothes and hairstyles that felt more aligned with

5:15

her true sense of self. It

5:18

was a journey of self-discovery and

5:20

self-acceptance. Nikki eventually

5:22

came out as transgender. She

5:26

had unwavering support from her family, with

5:28

her mother Lisa and stepfather Vince standing

5:31

firmly by her side. Nikki's

5:34

impact on those around her was profound. She

5:37

served as a pillar of support for everybody she

5:40

encountered. Her

5:42

pride in her identity served as

5:44

a beacon of inspiration for fellow

5:46

transgender students at her high school.

5:50

One afternoon, a transgender girl

5:52

transferred to Hudson Bay School. Nikki

5:55

immediately took her under her wing after

5:58

witnessing one of the boys picking on her. She

6:01

never hesitated to engage with

6:03

curious peers about her identity,

6:06

viewing such moments as opportunities

6:08

for education. Her

6:10

mother Lisa remarked, She just

6:12

radiated love. She

6:16

came in contact with a lot

6:18

of people and made a difference in their

6:20

life. She made a

6:22

difference. Very

6:25

colourful. And it

6:27

was all ages, all communities, all

6:29

walks of life, the homeless, the

6:32

CEOs, she could

6:34

fit in anywhere and bring

6:40

something to the situation that left

6:42

them feeling good about themselves. If

6:45

somebody was hungry, she would go make sure they had

6:47

food. If somebody needed a place to

6:49

stay, she'd make sure she stayed with them till they

6:52

found a place to lay their head. She

6:54

was always concerned about other

6:56

people. She was very loyal

6:58

and people loved her. At

7:01

school, Nikki effortlessly navigated the popular

7:03

crowd, always finding time to

7:06

assist the cheerleaders with their hair and

7:08

make up. Anyway, she had

7:10

been Nikki behind closed doors since she was two

7:12

years old and she had Hannah Montana and high

7:14

heels and make up. We

7:17

would buy her girls clothes for her bedroom and

7:19

she would be on the track team in

7:22

elementary school. But the first

7:24

day of sixth grade, she came out Nikki and

7:27

she was Nikki ever since and she was full

7:29

of confidence and people were

7:31

drawn to her. The cheerleaders loved her. They thought

7:33

she was so beautiful so nobody on the football

7:36

team bullied her because then the cheerleaders would be

7:38

mad at them. She had friends

7:40

and support and she

7:42

was so confident in who she was. She

7:45

consistently championed the underdog, extending

7:48

a helping hand whenever somebody needed

7:50

support. A

7:53

friend from the homeless community, Pink,

7:55

credited Nikki with helping her overcome

7:57

heroin addiction and regain control of her life. of

8:00

her life. Reflecting

8:03

on Nikki's generosity, Pink recalled,

8:06

Nikki was so kind and generous. She

8:09

would constantly make sure that everybody downtown

8:11

had food and water. She

8:14

didn't feel threatened by people because she was so

8:16

giving and so nice and so there for the

8:18

underdog. And you know, she would take

8:23

off her coat to give to a homeless man. She

8:25

was there for everyone. She was

8:28

there for me for 17

8:30

years. She was

8:33

my light. She

8:37

was my best

8:39

cheerleader. And because

8:41

of her, I'm

8:44

sitting here today. She

8:47

loved me unconditionally. She

8:50

never left my side. Nikki's

8:52

creativity thrived, particularly in

8:54

her passion for designing her own clothing.

8:58

She was also an avid dancer and her

9:00

friends could always count on her to put a

9:02

smile on their faces. One

9:05

of her close friends, Taylor, recollected.

9:08

She was so bright. Everything was

9:10

a smile. Even if she was just coming

9:12

up to you, she was always smiling. Like

9:16

many teenagers, Nikki embraced social

9:18

media. She

9:20

regularly updated her friends and followers

9:22

with selfies and found validation

9:25

in the flurry of likes that she received.

9:28

On TikTok, she posted lip sync and

9:30

dance videos to her thousands of followers.

9:34

However, at the age of 16, Nikki

9:36

fell into a dark spiral and began

9:39

to experiment with jokes. What

9:42

began as casual marijuana use

9:44

escalated into a dangerous addiction

9:46

to methamphetamine. Despite

9:49

Lisa's relentless efforts to help her

9:51

daughter overcome her addiction, Nikki's substance

9:53

abuse had consumed her life by

9:55

2018. phone

10:00

call from a detective, informing

10:02

her that Nikki had been shot six

10:04

times. Racing

10:07

to the hospital fearing the worst,

10:09

Lisa was astonished to find Nikki sitting

10:11

in a wheelchair seemingly unfazed, adorned

10:14

with a full face of makeup and

10:16

taking selfies. Miraculously

10:18

none of the gunshots had struck

10:20

vital organs. The

10:23

shooting had stemmed from a drug-related dispute,

10:26

yet the shooter was never apprehended. Lisa

10:30

hoped that this near-death experience would serve as

10:33

a wake-up call for Nikki, compelling

10:35

her to turn her life around before it

10:37

was too late. After

10:48

Nikki left her friend's home in the early morning hours

10:50

of the 6th of June, she failed

10:53

to return. Initially,

10:55

her absence was dismissed as another one

10:58

of Nikki's whims. Perhaps

11:00

she had met a man and was staying in his

11:03

apartment. Another

11:05

possibility was that she was scoring drugs

11:07

somewhere and had lost track of time.

11:11

Arielle Fox, one of Nikki's closest

11:13

friends, shrugged it off with a

11:15

nonchalant remark, revealing it as

11:18

a classic Nikki move. Yet

11:21

beneath this facade of casual dismissal, a

11:24

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11:33

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When Lisa checked her daughter's social media and

12:40

saw that Nikki hadn't posted, this

12:43

only added to the growing dread that

12:45

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12:48

Lisa checked her daughter's social media, she

12:51

saw that Nikki hadn't posted. This

12:54

only added to the growing dread that something

12:56

bad had happened. While

12:59

Nikki had vanished before, the prolonged absence

13:01

only added to Lisa's concerns, and

13:04

she reported her daughter missing. When

13:07

she didn't answer my messages on June 6th, I

13:09

knew something was wrong. I

13:13

clocked in at two when she hadn't answered my

13:15

messages. I'd been all morning. At

13:18

four o'clock on my first break, no response. At

13:22

lunch, I knew in my stomach something was wrong.

13:26

On the 10th, I filed a missing persons report. A

13:31

policeman excused himself because he got a call

13:33

in his walkie. And

13:36

he came back and he asked me if I'd ever

13:38

heard of a place called The Compound on 63rd Street.

13:42

I said, no, what's that? Well, that was

13:45

a detective vice from sex trafficking and

13:47

prostitution, and I recognized Nikki's name

13:50

on the missing persons radio as

13:52

being red flagged from there. I

13:55

said, what does that mean, red flagged? Well, she'd

13:57

been picked up from there many times, so her name's red flagged. And

14:01

she wasn't arrested? No, she was

14:03

underage. We took her home. I

14:06

go, how long has this been going on? Well, the first one was

14:09

eight months ago. I go, well, you

14:11

didn't bring her home to me, so where did you take her? Well,

14:14

she said her mom lived in Krakomis. We took her out

14:16

there. So you dropped

14:18

a minor daughter off at someone and you

14:20

didn't ID them? Because

14:23

you never brought her home to her mother. Because I'll tell you

14:25

what, Nikki representing herself

14:28

in that world as

14:30

a girl and not telling

14:32

the truth would get her killed. I

14:35

knew that. I

14:38

tried to get through. I had no idea she

14:40

was in that industry. I had no idea we

14:42

had a sex trafficking industry in Vancouver. I

14:45

lived a very sheltered life. I

14:49

had no clue. After

14:51

hearing that Nikki might have been involved in sex

14:53

work, Lisa was stunned. There

14:57

were now multiple scenarios running through her

14:59

head, each one as grim as

15:01

the other. With

15:03

the official report filed, Nikki's

15:06

loved ones rallied together. They

15:09

mobilized and flooded the streets with posters

15:11

adorned with Nikki's image, pleading

15:13

for any sliver of information from the

15:15

public. Simultaneously,

15:17

they launched a digital crusade,

15:20

setting up a Facebook page to add in

15:22

the search. Despite

15:25

their relentless pursuit, Nikki

15:27

remained elusive. I didn't know

15:30

if she was being held against her will

15:32

in the sex trafficking industry and drugs and

15:34

made to do things that were horrible. I

15:36

didn't know if she was being

15:39

shipped to another country. During

15:46

the investigation, Nikki's friends informed detectives that

15:48

she had been communicating with a man

15:50

on Snapchat that night. Intrigued,

15:54

the detectives decided to delve into

15:56

Nikki's Snapchat activity, hoping

15:58

it would reveal the identity of the woman. this mysterious

16:00

man. Their

16:03

search led them to David Bogdanoff, and

16:06

Nikki had arranged for him to pick her up

16:08

from her friend's home in the early morning hours.

16:13

Despite their efforts to contact him, the

16:15

detectives hit dead ends. They

16:18

visited his apartment, his workplace, left

16:21

cards and made numerous phone calls, all

16:23

to no avail. When

16:26

attempts to reach out to Bogdanoff

16:28

via Snapchat messages went unanswered. Frustrated

16:32

but undeterred, the detectives decided to

16:34

broaden their scope, and they

16:36

reached out to Bogdanoff's brother

16:39

Stanislav. The

16:41

family was originally from Russia, but they had

16:43

settled down in the United States, where

16:46

they operated a construction business together. According

16:51

to Stanislav, on the night that Nikki disappeared,

16:54

they had encountered her in downtown Vancouver.

16:58

David Bogdanoff had initiated a conversation with

17:01

her as she walked alone. They

17:04

shared some vodka, and then exchanged

17:07

Snapchat details. However,

17:09

after that night, Stanislav hadn't

17:12

seen or heard from his brother

17:14

or Nikki. Curiously,

17:17

Bogdanoff had failed to show up for

17:19

a tile job he was supposed to

17:21

assist Stanislav with the next morning. As

17:26

the investigation unfolded, it

17:28

became clear that both Nikki and Bogdanoff

17:30

were now missing, sparking

17:32

concerns that Nikki might be held against

17:35

her will somewhere. It

17:38

wasn't until late September that detectives

17:40

finally made contact with David Bogdanoff.

17:44

He claimed to have experienced issues with his

17:46

cell phone, explaining the delay

17:48

in responding to messages. During

17:52

their communication, detectives requested Bogdanoff to

17:54

attend a routine interview at the

17:56

police station, where he met

17:58

with Detective David Jensen. During

18:01

the interview Bogdanov reiterated the account

18:03

previously shared by his brother. He

18:07

affirmed that they had encountered Nicky walking alone

18:10

and offered her a ride to her friend's

18:12

home. I offered her my jacket because it

18:14

was really cold outside. I said, do you

18:16

want some vodka because I got some if

18:18

you want to have a drink just relax

18:20

a little bit and she said sure. So

18:22

I just gave her that bottle.

18:26

I did give her my snap shot name. I

18:28

wanted to exchange snap shots and she didn't

18:30

have a phone with her. Bogdanov

18:32

recounted offering Nicky his coat due

18:34

to the cold weather and said that

18:36

he gave her a bottle of vodka. According

18:39

to Bogdanov, they had maintained communication

18:41

through snap shots, eventually arranging

18:44

for him to pick her up again that night.

18:48

They proceeded to his brother's home but

18:50

he said that they remained in the

18:52

van outside, engaging in conversation. I just

18:55

parked there in the driveway chit-chatting a little

18:57

bit and then she

19:00

told me that she's not a she. I

19:03

was shocked to find that out and

19:05

just uncomfortable and really, really disturbed. And I asked her

19:08

to please get out of the car because this is

19:10

just really weird for me. She just got out of

19:12

the car and I took off. Bogdanov

19:14

said he felt uncomfortable upon learning

19:16

that Nicky was transgender, citing

19:19

cultural views that deem homosexuality

19:22

unacceptable in Russia. Bogdanov

19:25

said that he was disturbed and

19:28

ordered Nicky out of the van. For

19:30

me it's even disturbing when I'm around

19:32

a person or somebody bi or transsexual

19:34

or something else. I just got disgusted

19:36

and I asked her to just get

19:38

out. He said that she got out

19:40

and walked away and he never saw her again. I

19:43

wish I could help you more but I don't

19:45

know. I'm not a violent person at

19:47

all. According

19:52

to Bogdanov's account, following his encounter with

19:54

Nicky, he proceeded to drive to his

19:57

workplace in Portland. Naturally,

20:00

detectives remained suspicious of Bogdanov given that

20:02

he was the last known person to

20:04

have seen Nicky. However,

20:07

lacking concrete evidence, they were

20:09

compelled to release him from custody without charge.

20:13

Undeterred detectives persisted in their

20:15

investigation and obtained additional

20:17

search warrants, focusing particularly

20:20

on Bogdanov's phone records, specifically

20:23

his cell phone location data. Despite

20:27

Bogdanov's assertion during his interview that he

20:29

had gone directly to work after parting

20:32

ways with Nicky, the

20:34

records revealed a contradictory narrative. They

20:38

indicated that he had driven to the vicinity

20:40

of Larch Mountain, and then returned

20:42

to his brother's home approximately an

20:44

hour and twenty-five minutes later. The

20:48

area where Bogdanov's cell phone had registered

20:50

activity was expansive and rugged, posing

20:53

significant challenges in pinpointing his

20:55

exact whereabouts. Despite

20:58

multiple excursions to the area by detectives,

21:01

finding any trace of Nicky proved akin

21:03

to searching for a needle in a

21:05

haystack. Undeterred

21:07

by the daunting task, detectives

21:09

remained steadfast in their pursuit of

21:12

both answers and Nicky's whereabouts.

21:16

However, as they stretched into weeks and

21:18

weeks into months, the

21:20

passage of time only intensified the

21:22

urgency of their investigation, while

21:25

simultaneously deepening the mystery surrounding

21:28

Nicky's disappearance. Larch

21:36

Mountain is located in Clark County, Washington,

21:39

and comprises dense woodland, mostly

21:41

Douglas fir, western red cedar,

21:44

and hemlock trees. It's

21:46

got an elevation of over 4,000 feet, which

21:49

offers panoramic feasts of the

21:51

surrounding landscape, but it's very

21:53

remote. On

21:55

the morning of the 7th of December, a mom

21:58

was looking for bear grass. a

22:00

type of grass that is characterised by

22:02

its long slender leaves and tall flowering

22:05

stalks. The

22:07

grass holds significant cultural and traditional

22:09

importance for Indigenous people of the

22:11

region and it's used

22:13

in traditional ceremonies, basket weaving

22:16

and crafting. The

22:18

man had a keen eye for the prized plant

22:21

and as he navigated the rugged landscape,

22:23

something in the near distance caught his eye.

22:27

Curiosity got the better of him so he

22:29

decided to investigate. When

22:33

he got closer to the item, he found

22:35

that it was a human skull weathered by time and the elements. The

22:37

man stopped in his tracks and took a few minutes to

22:41

make sure that what he was seeing

22:44

was indeed a human skull

22:47

and not some kind of animal. The

22:51

size and shape of the eye sockets, the

22:53

curve of the jawbone and

22:56

the contours of the nasal cavity all

22:58

pointed towards it being a human. Deputy

23:03

Timothy Gosh was on patrol in the

23:05

North County area when he received the

23:08

report from the man. The

23:11

man led Deputy Gosh to a difficult

23:13

to reach location where a

23:15

human skull was indeed discovered.

23:19

Nearby, Deputy Gosh observed a woman's shoe,

23:21

a jacket, underwear and

23:23

a bandana, all of

23:25

which matched the clothing Nikki had been wearing

23:28

when she was last seen by her friends.

23:32

After six agonising months, Nikki

23:34

had finally been found. Upon

23:40

arrival, forensic experts cordoned off the

23:42

area and began their examination. Not

23:46

too far from the skull, they discovered

23:48

hair extensions entangled with a phone charger.

23:52

Among the hair, they also found a hyoid

23:54

bone. The

23:57

remains were carefully transported to the medical examiner's office. office

24:01

where it was determined that Nikki had been asphyxiated

24:03

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25:16

seriously but not ourselves. The

25:26

detectives held a press call from Saturday evening.

25:29

We caught probably the biggest

25:31

break when a citizen

25:33

on December 7th of this year walking

25:36

in the large mountain area came across a human

25:39

skull. The

25:41

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25:44

and called out Clark County search and rescue.

25:47

They conducted an extensive search of the

25:50

area over two days and collected a

25:53

number of items of evidence and

25:56

human remains. It should

25:58

be noted that that area is extremely Steve heavily

26:02

wooded and a lot of underbrush and they really

26:04

did an amazing job of collecting all that evidence

26:07

for us. Over

26:09

the next week analysis was done on those items along

26:11

with the forensic examination

26:13

of the remains and

26:15

with that information we were able to confirm the

26:18

remains to be Mickey's own house. A

26:20

murder investigation was promptly initiated with

26:23

detectives focusing their attention on

26:25

their prime suspect David

26:28

Bogdanoff. He

26:30

was apprehended and taken to the police

26:32

station for further questioning. When we

26:34

spoke to you last time I don't know

26:36

if you recall the whole conversation but

26:40

she said that you met her earlier in the

26:42

evening met her downtown, hung

26:45

out with her for a while, drank

26:48

some vodka together, gave her a coat and

26:51

then she went home and then you met her again later. So

26:54

I ring a bell? Yeah. Okay. What

26:58

you told us at the time was that you

27:02

you and Stan went back to Hartress house

27:04

up there at 114th and

27:07

you needed your band because you're gonna go to work

27:09

and Stan needed to take his band to his job.

27:12

Right. At that time was

27:15

when Mickey told you that Mickey

27:18

was really a heath and that's

27:21

when you're like I'm

27:23

not into this and kicked her out of the van center

27:28

on her way. Okay.

27:32

Then after that you said that you went

27:35

so you said you're gonna go to Stan's job

27:38

site. No I went to my other brother. Okay. Oh

27:42

your other brother, is it Hartress job site? Ealing.

27:45

Ealing. Okay so you're gonna go to his job

27:47

site but then you ended up you're

27:49

gonna go to your job site. You ended up just staying

27:51

at his job site. I don't know. It's confusing. I don't

27:53

remember. Yeah. It's not like you said that you were gonna

27:55

go to your job site. Yeah. You went to work. Detective

27:58

David Jens was aware of Bogdanoff's presence

28:00

in the large mountain area. I

28:03

ruined the time that Nicky disappeared and

28:05

he pressed him for information. What

28:07

got us here today is I want to talk to you

28:10

about a trip that you took before

28:13

you went to the job site. So

28:15

before we go on, he's basically summarized

28:17

everything that you guys talked about. Is

28:23

there anything that you want to revise before

28:25

we continue on? I

28:29

mean, I just thought about a gas station. Okay.

28:36

So at the time that we talked, I didn't have the

28:38

benefit of all of your phone records.

28:41

Okay? But now there's been some

28:43

initial analysis done. Okay? So

28:47

you left, your phone left Archer's

28:49

house and then went east. I'll

28:53

pass large mountain. What

28:56

happened on that trip? I

29:00

took a However,

29:12

Bogdanoff chose to remain silent and

29:14

requested a lawyer. Despite

29:17

his silence, the evidence amassed against him

29:19

was deemed sufficient to obtain an arrest

29:21

warrant. So understand

29:23

that you're being arrested today for the murder

29:26

of Nicky two cats? Whose

29:28

remains have been discovered? Okay.

29:33

Who was strangled to death? Subsequently,

29:35

David Bogdanoff was formally charged with

29:37

second degree murder. Detective

29:39

held a press conference to announce his arrest,

29:42

during which they presented their theory of

29:44

the events leading to Nicky's murder. The

29:48

information we have is, we

29:51

just believe that they had a kind

29:53

of a hookup meeting, and

29:55

that it wasn't targeting

29:58

Nicky. for

30:00

a particular reason, that it rose

30:02

probably from the hookup meeting. According

30:06

to their count, Bogdanoff had

30:08

intended to engage in sexual activity with

30:10

Nikki. However,

30:12

when he learned that she was transgender, he

30:15

reacted with anger, allegedly resulting

30:17

in him strangling her to death. This

30:21

narrative prompted speculation regarding potential

30:23

hate crime charges against Bogdanoff,

30:26

although detectives clarified during the press

30:28

conference that such decisions would

30:30

be up to the prosecution. Lt.

30:33

Tom Ryan further stated, We

30:36

would love the community to know we take all

30:38

of these cases seriously. Whenever

30:40

we have a case with a person in

30:42

a group that is sometimes targeted because of

30:44

their personas or beliefs and lifestyles, then

30:46

we tend to bump that up on our

30:49

concern levels. The community

30:51

called for the charges to be upgraded and

30:54

for Bogdanoff to be charged with a hate crime. Nikki's

30:57

mother Lisa was at the forefront of the

31:00

movement, commenting, She

31:02

didn't deserve this, that hatred,

31:05

the last thing she felt on earth. Yes,

31:08

she was murdered out of hatred because she

31:10

was transgender. It's

31:12

a common fact that transgender people face

31:14

high rates of violence and discrimination. When

31:18

transgender people go missing, they're

31:20

most often found dead. They

31:23

are disproportionately targeted for violent

31:25

attacks, even including murder, and

31:27

the epidemic of violence is fueled by

31:29

a combination of prejudice, ignorance

31:32

and systemic discrimination. According

31:35

to a recent UCLA law school study,

31:38

transgender people are four times

31:40

more likely than non-transgender people

31:42

to become victims of violent crime.

31:46

In 2019, there had been countless attacks

31:48

against transgender individuals in the United States,

31:51

and Nikki was the 23rd transgender person

31:53

to be killed that year. In

31:57

2018, Washington ranked as the

31:59

second-neighbor. nationwide for most hate

32:01

crimes, with 666 reported. California

32:06

was first, with over 1,000 reported.

32:09

However, detectives later shared that they didn't

32:11

think that the charges would be upgraded

32:14

because they didn't believe that it was a targeted

32:16

killing. Advocates

32:19

disagreed, with Michelle Bart, president

32:21

and co-founder of the Vancouver-based

32:24

National Women's Coalition Against Violence

32:26

and Exploitation, stating, Although

32:29

investigators can not show premeditation,

32:32

we believe there was a hate crime, and

32:34

Nikki had no chance whatsoever whether

32:37

she was LGBTQ, even

32:39

a woman for that matter. On

32:44

the 20th December, Nikki's loved ones gathered

32:46

at the Vancouver United Church of Christ

32:49

to pay tribute to. In

32:52

a deeply emotional moment, her mother Lisa

32:54

tearfully addressed the crowd. My

32:57

fears and my visions and nightmares were true

32:59

stories. For six months I

33:01

prayed that wasn't what was happening. Despite

33:05

the agony, Lisa celebrated Nikki's life,

33:08

describing her as a beacon of love who

33:10

touched countless hearts and made a positive impact

33:12

on everyone she encountered. The

33:16

overwhelming support, especially from

33:18

the transgender community, deeply moved Lisa.

33:22

They vowed to ensure that Nikki's memory would endure,

33:25

offering solace in their promise never to forget

33:27

her name. This

33:29

sentiment reverberated throughout the

33:31

memorial, echoed by the mayor, who

33:33

urged, Please remember to say

33:35

her name. In

33:38

a later memorial, Nikki's family spoke

33:40

some more. Her

33:42

brother Conrad stated, The

33:45

one thing I hope everyone can take away from

33:47

this is to be yourself. Be

33:49

who you were made to be. Don't give up.

33:52

Lisa said that she still couldn't talk about her

33:54

daughter in the past tense and that

33:57

she hadn't accepted that she was gone forever. The

34:00

stepfather Vince Woods. Said. That

34:02

he was having a really hard time coming to

34:04

terms with Water Top and. Last six

34:06

months is when the largest six months of

34:08

her lives. As

34:13

has been a rollercoaster ride up and down. Plane

34:17

in our minds whether what has happened,

34:19

where is she have. People

34:25

been awesome with their of an

34:28

outsider's and. At

34:30

all the worst lot of people

34:32

does allow hardware it sinners kind

34:34

of very rare on. I leave

34:36

the next year but do not appeared. In court. Where.

34:39

He was charged with the heat. Judge

34:42

David Gregor Sin ordered him to be held

34:44

on seven hundred and sixty thousand dollar bill.

34:47

Much. Lower than the six million dollar bill.

34:50

Requested. By the prosecution. The.

34:53

Judge has settled over a month

34:55

because Bogdanov had no prior criminal

34:57

history. And. The

34:59

following month to bill was appraised limiting

35:01

the so called panic to sense. This

35:04

is a legal strategy and which a defendant

35:06

claims that they're violent actions. Wire.

35:08

Response to a sudden and intense

35:10

feeling of fear or panic. His

35:14

defense is often. Used. In Hate crimes.

35:17

And. It's used to excuse or

35:19

justify acts of violence against

35:21

Lgbtq plus individuals. Especially

35:24

transgender people. By. Portraying

35:26

their mere existence or expression of

35:28

identity. As illegitimate trigger

35:30

for panic and fear. Hi.

35:33

Still One Sixty Seven which was named

35:35

the Nicotine Highs and Act would block

35:38

a defendant from using a panic defense.

35:40

Based. On discover your disclosure of

35:43

the victims actual or perceived

35:45

gender or sexual orientation. More.

35:48

Specifically, the bill would prevent a

35:50

claim that diminished responsibility. Because.

35:52

The defendant did not fully comprehend the

35:54

nature. And. Gravity of the alleged crime.

35:58

Representative. Sharm. Why? The

36:00

commented. What? This bill

36:02

does. It removes the possible defense for

36:04

the kind of thing that happened nicky.

36:07

Make. Was strangled by somebody who was upset

36:09

about who she was. Lisa.

36:12

Testified at the senate committee urging the

36:15

bill to pass. The.

37:06

Bill passed on a forty six to

37:08

three vote, and on the sixth march,

37:10

Washington banned the use of gay or

37:12

transgender panic as a legal defense. They

37:15

became the ten stay at to bomb the defense.

37:17

Following. California, Connecticut, Hawaii,

37:20

Illinois mean Nevada, New

37:22

Jersey, New York and

37:24

Rhode Island. Following.

37:27

This Bogdanov spiel was increased to

37:29

two million dollars. Is

37:32

it com? After it was discovered that on the

37:34

day that Nicky was killed, he had purchased a

37:36

one way ticket to Ukraine. The

37:39

reason detectives couldn't get a hold of him

37:41

after he was identified as a person of

37:43

interest. While. Some because his cell

37:45

phone had broken. That. Because he had

37:47

fled the country, He.

37:50

Said in Ukraine until the fifteenth of

37:52

July when he returned to the United

37:54

States. The

38:00

jury selection for the murder trial began in

38:02

August of two Thousand and Twenty one. The.

38:05

Prospective jurors were asked questions

38:08

about perceptions as Lgbtq plus

38:10

people. Russian. People to use

38:12

of the Fifth Amendment Protection

38:14

against self incrimination and self defense.

38:18

By. Beating developments a jury had been

38:20

selected to an opening statements the gun.

38:24

Senior. Deputy prosecutor call and hayes this

38:26

the first to take the floor before

38:28

the jury. He walked

38:30

your three that night and during of two thousand.

38:32

And nineteen. Telling. Them how

38:35

Nicky involved in all had met and on

38:37

time Vancouver. During.

38:39

The opening statements of Defense Attorney. Aaron

38:42

Mclear. Baltimore's. New

38:44

Defense. Became apparent. While.

38:48

He had first of all, completely denied

38:50

killing Nikkei. During the opening

38:52

statements, his defense attorney admitted that he

38:54

killed her. I

38:56

have or she said that it wasn't I just

38:58

prejudice. But. Instead. To.

39:01

Stop her from a talking or potentially

39:03

killing him. Prosecutor

39:06

Hayes rebuffed this to sense.

39:08

And. Pointed out, the Bogdanov was much

39:10

taller and heavier than Nicky. He.

39:14

Further said that after his arrest

39:16

Bogdanov was recorded in a jail

39:18

hi some call using Russian slung

39:20

that translates to a derogatory term.

39:22

For members of the Lgbtq Plus

39:25

community. The.

39:27

Testimony got underway promptly. Football.

39:30

Tunnels Brothers testifying about the

39:32

night Nicky disappeared. His

39:35

former girlfriend also told the jury

39:37

that she had known him to

39:39

make derogatory comments about people he

39:41

suspected were gay, bisexual, or transgender.

39:44

Building. On this the court certified

39:47

translator in Vancouver Police Officer. Testified

39:49

the Bogdanov had used a Russian anti

39:51

gay slur when talking with family while

39:54

in jail. evidence

39:56

is and presented a boat bogdanov meeting

39:58

with nicky and the evidence

40:00

collected from his cell phone. It

40:03

showed that they had been together that night, and

40:06

then the next morning Bogdanov's cell phone

40:08

showed that he had spent an hour and a half

40:11

in the area where Nicky's body was found.

40:15

After that Bogdanov searched Cape Flights

40:18

and then purchased a one-way ticket. The

40:22

prosecution's case was short, since

40:24

Bogdanov had now admitted that

40:26

he actually did kill Nicky.

40:28

It just wanted to show that he was

40:31

motivated by hatred of people in the

40:33

LGBTQ plus community, not self-defense.

40:37

The defense then began their case by

40:39

calling Bogdanov to the witness stand. His

40:43

defense attorney asked him some questions about

40:45

his beliefs and his upbringing. Yes,

40:48

I was born and

40:51

raised into Christianity, and

40:53

in the last maybe

40:57

eight years kind of transitioned into

40:59

a Christian Jewish, and

41:01

I just loved her

41:04

for the whole life of much of it. Do

41:07

you have certain views of the LGBT

41:09

community based on your religious or cultural

41:11

upbringing? Yes,

41:16

I was taught that it is

41:19

a sin, and

41:21

it's not okay as

41:24

well as other sins. Okay,

41:29

does this belief mean that

41:31

you hate LGBTQ members or

41:33

community people? No.

41:36

Why not? Because

41:43

we are all human, we all

41:47

have things that we

41:50

do, and I'm not nobody to hate

41:52

on one person, I'm another person that

41:54

does one thing. I have

41:56

my own things to deal

41:59

with. The defense

42:01

attorney then mentioned his ex-girlfriend's

42:03

comments. The state offered

42:06

testimony through your ex-girlfriend, Anessa, where

42:11

they talked

42:14

about you and her in the mall where

42:16

she said that you observed either

42:19

a gay couple or

42:21

heterosexual, gay,

42:23

bisexual or transsexual couple.

42:26

And you remarked to her that it was

42:28

disgusting. Is that right? What

42:32

exactly was disgusting? Nothing

42:42

that I can really remember from that

42:44

moment, except

42:46

it probably might have been, had to

42:49

have been something like, I probably

42:51

saw some two men kissing or

42:53

something like that. It sort of prompted

42:56

me to say it in private to

42:58

my girl, oh that's disgusting. Okay,

43:01

so do

43:03

you find homosexual activity disgusting then?

43:11

The testimony then shifted to the night

43:13

that Nicky disappeared. I

43:15

was in the car, I was in

43:17

the van with my brother Arthur for a smoking

43:20

cigarette, waiting on stand

43:23

to come down from the apartment. And

43:26

we were just sitting in the car, there

43:28

was a road and saw Nicky walking

43:30

across the street by herself. Okay,

43:33

did you approach her? Yes,

43:35

I did. I told my brother to wait in the

43:37

car and I went

43:39

and approached Nicky by myself. Okay,

43:42

so when you first appeared to approach Nicky,

43:45

how did she appear to you at that point? She

43:53

seemed a little emotionally

43:55

off, maybe upset. I'm

44:02

trying to talk to her, she just goes slow.

44:04

She was just looking

44:06

right through me, looking at

44:08

each other, but she's looking past

44:10

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44:13

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44:15

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45:21

to his brother's house. He

45:24

said that they drove there so that he could switch into

45:26

his own car, an Audi A8L. They

45:30

switched into the car and Bogdanov said that

45:32

Nicky moved to the backseat. I

45:34

came back and I opened

45:36

my driver's door and saw that Nicky was moved

45:38

to the middle seat now

45:41

in the back of the car. Ok,

45:43

and what was Nicky doing at that point? She

45:46

was smoking something out of a pipe. I

45:50

wasn't going to make a big deal out of it. I

45:52

didn't really like that she was smoking that in my

45:55

car. And why weren't you going to

45:57

make a big deal about it? Because

46:00

I was anticipating,

46:02

thought that we're just going to

46:04

hook up probably and I'm just

46:07

going to drop her off. Okay.

46:10

And did you get in the front or the back

46:12

of the car? I

46:14

eventually got in the back, she invited,

46:16

just comes in the back of her.

46:19

Bogdanoff explained to the jury that they chatted

46:21

in the box safe for a while. That

46:25

transitioned into us making up. Okay.

46:28

And so by making out, what do you mean?

46:33

Exchanges to livelihood. So

46:35

kissing? Yes. With tongue? Yes.

46:39

Is there touching or anything else? Yes.

46:43

Okay. Who was touching who? There's

46:47

a little bit of both. At

46:51

first, um... Where

46:53

was she touching you? Her...

47:15

She started touching me in the

47:17

private area. Okay.

47:22

Bogdanoff said that he then removed his trousers.

47:25

She engages in giving

47:27

me a royal sex. I

47:30

reach over and she's bent over. I

47:33

reach over and put my hands in her pants. Okay.

47:38

Can you tell me about that? What do you feel when

47:40

you put your hands in her pants? I

47:46

worked around the layers of clothing. And

47:50

I felt it was clearly a ballroom penis.

47:54

According to Bogdanoff, he pushed Nikki away from

47:56

him and began swearing at her and ordered

47:58

her out of the car. I

48:01

freak out

48:05

and I push her

48:08

back towards

48:10

the passenger's door and

48:13

I just start freaking out

48:15

saying, I'm sorry,

48:18

I posted a post about a house saying, you know,

48:20

what the fuck? What is this? You

48:23

didn't tell me you were a dude. Bogdanov explained

48:25

that he was humiliated and

48:27

that he would have been shunned if his family found

48:30

out. According

48:32

to Bogdanov, Nikki started fighting with him after

48:35

he pushed her into the passenger door. He

48:38

claimed that Nikki then reached towards the front

48:40

seat, where he had a loaded

48:42

handgun tucked away. He

48:45

described attempting to pull Nikki back away from the

48:47

gun. He

48:50

said she knew there was a gun there because he

48:52

had told her earlier that he always carried a

48:54

gun so that she wouldn't freak out and

48:56

that he had a concealed carry permit for it.

48:59

And at that time when I put

49:01

him down, she just jumps up

49:03

and goes towards the center console

49:05

towards my gun. Okay.

49:08

What's your, what do

49:11

you think at this point when she

49:13

jumps or springs towards the center console, do you think

49:15

they're going out of console and you think she's going

49:17

through her gun? What's going

49:20

through your mind? I'm

49:28

thinking, you know, I just was

49:30

deceived by this person into

49:34

oral sex and this

49:36

person's plan met. She's

49:40

jumping from my gun. At this

49:43

point, the overwhelming feeling I thought

49:45

was quite

49:47

a slight mode just kicks

49:50

in. greeted and off. to

50:00

get a grip on the jacket that she was wearing. In

50:03

the passenger seat, the

50:06

front passenger seat in the rear

50:08

pocket was hanging out my phone

50:10

call, my charging cable. And

50:14

in that struggle, I

50:17

grabbed that cable and

50:19

put it around her so I can

50:21

hold onto it and hold her back

50:23

like that and hold

50:25

her from going forward with a gun. He

50:28

alleged that he wrapped a phone charger around

50:31

her shoulder area but during the struggle

50:33

the cord slipped around her neck. Bogdanov

50:36

told the jury that once Nicky stopped moving,

50:39

he removed the charger. He

50:42

claimed he believed that she had only passed out. Bogdanov

50:46

said that he then grabbed the gun and put it in the

50:48

trunk of the car and then came back

50:50

to check on Nicky. I came

50:53

back around to check up on Nicky

50:56

and she wasn't awake,

50:59

you know. And

51:02

I started to

51:05

try to check that she was breathing, you

51:07

know. Was she?

51:09

No. Bogdanov testified

51:12

that he was too afraid to call the police.

51:15

He didn't think that they would believe him because he

51:17

had been drinking. He

51:19

said that there were drugs in the car as well but

51:22

said that these belonged to Nicky. Bogdanov

51:25

maintained that he didn't mean to kill Nicky, he

51:28

just wanted to get her out of the car and

51:30

get her away from the loaded gun. He

51:33

then decided he needed to get rid of

51:35

Nicky's body and thought of Larch Mountain. He'd

51:39

been shooting there before so he drove

51:41

over there with Nicky's body in the back seat. He

51:44

pulled up along a steep hillside and

51:46

pushed Nicky's body out of the car. Later

51:49

that day he booked a one-way ticket to Ukraine,

51:52

telling the jury that he was an emotional wreck. According

51:56

to Bogdanov he had called a friend to get rid of

51:58

his car and said that he was not a cop. Instead he had

52:00

no idea where the car was, nor the

52:02

gun that was allegedly inside it. Under

52:06

cross examination by prosecutor Hayes, he

52:09

pointed out the differences in their size. The

52:30

prosecutor then asked Bogdanoff about his

52:34

interviews with detectives.

52:49

He never once mentioned anything about

52:51

self-defense or any violent altercation

52:53

with Nicky. Bogdanoff said

52:56

that he hadn't said anything, claiming

52:58

that he was too afraid that it wouldn't be believed.

53:02

After Bogdanoff testified, the defense rested

53:04

their case. He

53:07

was the sole witness through their entire case.

53:10

The crux of the case truly hinged on whether or

53:13

not the jury believed him. During

53:16

closing arguments, Deputy Prosecutor Kristin

53:18

Arnold pointed out

53:20

inconsistencies in Bogdanoff's testimony.

53:24

She said that he had used more force

53:26

than was necessary, or that a

53:28

reasonable person would use when he strangled Nicky

53:30

with the phone cord. She

53:33

argued that his testimony showed the thought

53:35

going through his head as Nicky fought

53:37

back was that he had been deceived,

53:40

not that he was fearful. She

53:43

also said that he lied multiple times to detectives,

53:46

and pointed out that he never told them

53:48

that he was defending himself from Nicky. Defense

53:53

Attorney Matthew Hoff touched on this during

53:55

his closing arguments. He

53:57

said that Bogdanoff didn't tell the truth because he didn't

53:59

want to. people can. That he

54:02

had sexual contact with a transgender woman.

54:05

He said the Bogdanov had pushed Nicky

54:07

away and cursed at her because he

54:09

didn't consent to having sexual. Contact with

54:11

her. He

54:14

stated. That's not a primary

54:16

or grasser. That someone reacting.

54:18

Why? most people would react under

54:21

the same situation. The

54:24

jury would then sent off to deliberate. And

54:26

was a problem some ours leader. The.

54:29

Jury express concern to the court. A.

54:32

Boy potential juror misconduct.

54:36

They said that they had reached a verdict on one

54:38

point. Or deadlocked on the other. In

54:41

the knows that were passed to the port, they said

54:43

that one juror appeared to be be a seeing her

54:45

decision on. Personel theories. And

54:48

not on the Fox has a case. By.

54:51

The next day. however, They. Had

54:53

reached a unanimous verdict. Based.

54:55

On David Boreanaz guilty of second. Degree

54:58

murder and hit for him. As

55:01

the verdict was annoyance, Nicky's family

55:03

quietly celebrated from the public salary.

55:05

That. Bogdanov showed no semblance of the

55:08

motion. In a

55:10

Facebook posts on evening. The. Justice

55:12

for Nikki group applauded the during

55:14

his findings. A

55:16

boat. The. Long build up

55:19

to this trial under defends his attempts

55:21

to some high paint. Nikki. It

55:23

was a seventeen year old girl. As.

55:25

Being responsible. For. The

55:27

defendants violent actions, Marks

55:29

to a she adding for us

55:31

and particularly for Nicky's mother, Lisa.

55:34

There's no excuse for what happened to

55:36

Nikki. It's hate crime

55:39

wounded our community. After.

55:41

The Verdict: Bogdanov returned to court on

55:43

the twenty ninth of August for the

55:46

sentencing phase. He took

55:48

his place alongside his defense team while

55:50

Nicky's mother sat in the public

55:52

gallery. She. Was clutching

55:54

a stuffed animal that are daughter used to

55:57

sleep with. The

55:59

prosecution were sick. The maximum sentence

56:01

allied. While. The defense wanted

56:03

just eleven years. Judge

56:06

David Gregor Sin addressed Balkan Us.

56:09

He became very emotional as he described how

56:11

he was struck by the darkness is the

56:13

case. He further

56:16

noted that there is an element of predation in

56:18

the case. That is. Nicky was

56:20

only seventeen years old. Whereas. See

56:22

that Bogdanov was twenty five. And

56:25

he had provided her with alcohol. A

56:28

student. Everyone in this courtroom

56:30

has been seventeen at some point in their

56:32

lives. She. Could be nanny, one

56:34

son or daughter. The

56:37

judge then sentence David Bogdanov. To.

56:39

Twenty years in prison. In.

56:43

A world where acceptance and

56:45

understanding often falter. Transgender

56:48

people navigate a perilous pass

56:50

fraught with danger, particularly from

56:52

the hands of violent man.

56:55

Simpli. Living there trace becomes an

56:57

act of bravery as they see

56:59

as the grim reality of hate

57:01

crimes, discrimination and physical assault. Silly

57:03

for being who they are. They

57:06

getting high them with the pride transgender woman

57:08

who had lived a difficult life. In

57:11

the end, she. Find out the

57:13

hard way that by simply existing.

57:16

She was seen as a threat

57:18

by a man clinging to narrow

57:20

minded ideologies. Are

57:38

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57:40

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