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can remember his head flipped
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forward and then it just banged back against
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the wall. And
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he was the same
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thing, soaked in blood.
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And I didn't get a good look at like what
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his injuries look like. Melrose
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is a small unincorporated community
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in Florida, just 17-year-old. miles
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east of Gainesville. It's
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a charming area with its history dating back to
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the 19th century when it
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was first settled. Originally,
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the area was inhabited by Native
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American tribes before European
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settlers arrived. The
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community of Melrose began to take shape
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around the shores of Lake Santa Fe
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and was eventually named Melrose after
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Melrose in Scotland. The
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area quickly grew as a key location
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for citrus farming due to the fertile
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soil and favorable climate. Throughout
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the 20th century, Melrose evolved
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from an agricultural hub into
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a residential and recreational community.
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The natural beauty of the
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area, including numerous lakes and
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forests, attracted artists, retirees and
2:45
those seeking a quieter lifestyle.
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Today, Melrose maintains its small town
2:50
charm, and it's known for
2:52
its thriving art scene. It's the kind
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of place where people know their neighbours
2:57
and take care of one another. But
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on the 26th of August 2020, the
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fabric of Melrose was forever changed. That
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morning, detectives raced to a
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home along the rural Shiloh Road. A
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report had come in that two boys were found
3:14
dead. Tate
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and Scott Baker was born on the 12th of
3:32
June 2006 to parents Chad and Sarah, who'd
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been married since 2005. His
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younger brother, Robert Andrew Baker, followed
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on the 18th of September 2007.
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The family also
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included a little brother, Landon, who joined them
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in 2016. The boys also
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had two older half-brothers, Colton and
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Cobie, who had come from a
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previous relationship that Chad had. Close
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in age, Robert and Sarah were found dead. Tatein were
4:01
inseparable, truly the best of friends.
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Their great-grandmother, if only recalled. They
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were wonderful boys. They were awesome.
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They never got in no trouble or anything. They
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were just good kids. The
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brothers shared a love for video games, outdoor
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play and swimming. Their
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bond was so strong that when Robert received
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scholarships to attend private schools, he
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turned them down just so he could stay close to
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Tatein. Their older
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brother Colby affectionately recalled.
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Tatein was Robert
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the Big Teddy Bear. He was
4:37
the best. He cared for
4:39
all the animals. He cared for all the
4:41
family. He was planning on going
4:43
and playing football for high school and
4:45
college. On the
4:47
10th of August 2020, the family packed
4:49
up their belongings and moved
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from Lakeland to Melrose, a
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town just south of Jacksonville. The
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move was motivated by a desire to be closer to
4:59
the family in the area, especially
5:01
their cousins, which thrilled the
5:03
boys. They
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settled into a four-bedroom home on Shiloh
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Road, a relatively rural
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and secluded area, yet familiar
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and comforting, since Sarah's
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parents and grandparents lived in the same
5:17
neighbourhood. Sarah recalled. The
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old couple passed away and
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when we purchased the house, it was like fully
5:23
furnished. And she might have been a little bit
5:25
of a hoarder, but the homes were affordable and
5:28
spacious, providing an ideal setting
5:30
for the family's new chapter. Sarah
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explained the motivation behind the move. To
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be closer to my family, I was
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having a lot of difficult times. I
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started getting severe depression,
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you know, anxiety. So
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I thought if I moved closer to my family,
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that my dad would be able to help me
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out of my shell a little bit more. And
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we had a bunch, you know, plans and the kids were
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excited to move up here to be closer to their cousins,
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even though they had lost. lots
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of friends down there. It
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was summer when they moved and Taiten and
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Robert settled in easily and
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anticipated starting their new school.
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14-year-old Taiten was described as
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a happy-go-lucky boy who never
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spoke without smiling, lining
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up any room with his presence. Known
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for his gentle soul and heart of gold, he
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made friends effortlessly and was always
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eager to help his brother or anyone else in need.
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Taiten loved to cook, listen to music, and
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play outside in the garden. But
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what excited him the most were the upcoming
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family camping trips and the adventure
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of starting a new school. 12-year-old
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Robert was both smart and athletic,
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excelling in almost everything that he
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tried. When he received
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scholarships to private schools, it
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came as no surprise to the family. He was
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deeply interested in robotics. Robert
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loved playing basketball, video games, and fishing
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with his friends and family. He
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had a special connection with animals
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and nature, eagerly anticipating family camping
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trips and fishing trips, especially
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with his papa who lived just on the
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road. The boy's grandfather,
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Andrew, lived with his wife, Deborah
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Benson. They were over the
7:15
moon that the boys were going to be so close by.
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Deborah fondly recollected. So
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many plans were made. Fishing,
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camping, beach, birthday parties,
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weekend parties. I truly
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felt that life was perfect. I
7:30
remember actually saying that out loud, that
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life is finally perfect. It
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was a warm morning in Melrose on the 26th
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of August 2020. With
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summer drawing to a close, Robert and
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Tatum had been eagerly anticipating their upcoming
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adventure, starting at a
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new school and making new friends. Though
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they miss their old friends from Polk County, their
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easygoing and friendly nature reassured everyone
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that they would quickly find their place. Sarah,
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their mother, was the first to rise that
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day. As
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she stirred from sleep and rubbed her eyes, she
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was struck by the unusual stillness in
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their usually bustling home. It was
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almost 10am, yet the
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house remained eerily quiet, a
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stark contrast to the lively morning
8:23
she was accustomed to. Chad was
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away on business, working as
8:27
a long-haul truck driver, and Landon was
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asleep peacefully beside her. But
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when she woke most morning, she could hear Tatum
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and Robert, either playing video
8:36
games or watching television. Sarah
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rose from her bed and made her way to the
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den. As she
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entered, her eyes were immediately drawn
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to a blanket on the floor close to the
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pool table, drenched in blood. I
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started seeing blood on the ground on the
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other side of the pool table. So then
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I started getting closer and closer and seeing more blood,
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and I ripped off my
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son's blanket because I thought it was like he was
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a he was a picker on scabs. I
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didn't realize how much blood it was at the time because I
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just opened my eyes, but when I ripped
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off the blanket, that's I knew
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it was everywhere. It was covered in
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blood. I
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did try to flip him, see
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where the blood was coming from. His
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head at the time was facing one way, and I know
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I faced him the other way, trying to feel for a
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pulse, which I never did. Panic
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surged through Sarah as she rushed at the
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blanket, yanking it up to reveal
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the lifeless body of 12-year-old Tatum. His
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small frame was soaked in blood, and
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his throat was nearly severed by multiple
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deep cuts. He was laying
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on his tummy with his face facing the
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wall. You could
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tell that his throat was severed completely
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through almost to
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the bone because that's when I realized there
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was there was no pulse. Sarah's
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scream pierced the morning stillness as she called
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out for Robert to call police, but
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the house remained eerily silent. Her
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heart pounded in her chest as she raced
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to the living room as dread clawed at
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her insides. There,
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her eyes fell upon another bloodstained
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blanket on the floor. With
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trembling hands, she lifted it
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up. I can remember his
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head flipped forward and then it just
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banged back against the wall. And
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he was the same thing
10:34
soaked in blood
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and I didn't get a good look at
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what his injuries looked like, but
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I did as far as Tayden's. Sarah
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grabbed London and sped over to her father's
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home just on the road. She
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burst in frantic and hysterical, screaming
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that she believed her children were dead
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and begging for someone to call 911.
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The boy's grandmother, Deborah, took one look
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at Sarah and knew that something was
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terribly wrong. She said,
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Debbie, Debbie, call 911. I
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think my kids are dead. She was terrified and
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panicked and
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I remember her nightgown was ripped and then
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her little Landon came running behind her.
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What did you think? What did you do? I didn't
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believe her. I was
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completely confused. What do you mean your kids are
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dead? Both of them how? There was a lot
11:27
of questions and then she said, wake
11:29
up. Or my husband,
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my little son, he goes, I'll go get dad. And
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it was just a lot of panic. And I got
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Deborah quickly jumped into her car, called her
11:38
husband, Andrew, and dialed 911 as she drove
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back to the family's home. She
11:44
hoped against hope that Sarah was mistaken. But
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as she cautiously stepped inside, it
11:50
became heartbreakingly clear that Sarah's worst
11:52
fears were true. We
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went straight to the pool room and I saw Tayton and
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he was. laying face
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down on the ground and I knew
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immediately when I saw him. And
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I told the operator, I said, yes, he
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is dead. But
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I still tried to shake him
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and call his name, even though
12:15
I just knew. And so I
12:17
was just shaking and grabbing
12:19
at him and saying, Tayton,
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Tayton, but I just saw blood
12:23
and I just, thinking
12:25
of Tayton. And then it occurred to
12:28
me, Robert, where is Robert? So I
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looked around and started to walk up
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the steps and then I seen Robert's
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feet and they were just whiter,
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the whitest feet I'd ever seen. So I walked
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up a few more steps and I
12:44
saw his face. And
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I saw his face was just pure
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white and his lips were bluish
12:52
purple and blood was everywhere and
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I took a step back because I
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just was in disbelief. It didn't make sense, I
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didn't know and I
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said, Robert's dead too or said
13:04
something like that and now when one operator told me
13:06
to leave the house. Both Tayton
13:08
and Robert lay lifeless. Their
13:10
throats slashed with such force the bone
13:12
was visible. Just
13:15
as Deborah stumbled back outside, Andrew
13:17
pulled up. She told
13:19
him that Tayton and Robert were dead. Overcome
13:22
with grief, he screamed and pushed
13:24
past her into the house, only
13:26
to confront the same horrific scene that
13:29
had shattered their lives moments before. Detectives
13:32
arrived at the scene 12 minutes after the 911 call
13:34
came in. Much
13:37
like those before them, they entered
13:39
the home only to confirm that
13:41
both Tayton and Robert were dead
13:44
and far beyond resuscitation efforts. Tayton
13:46
and Robert's bodies were transported to
13:48
the medical examiner's office, where
13:51
the pathologist determined the brutal
13:53
nature. their
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deaths. Both boys had
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been slashed and stabbed with a knife on their
14:04
throat, and then bludgeoned across the head
14:06
with a hammer. Tatum's
14:08
throat had been slashed multiple times, with
14:11
the killer attempting to saw through his
14:13
neck. The large
14:15
escaping wound to his neck was three
14:18
to five centimetres wide by five centimetres
14:20
deep. His head also
14:22
had evidence of bludgeoning from a hammer. Robert's
14:26
throat was slashed from end to end, nearly
14:29
decapitating him. The
14:32
pathologist Dr. Fuller explained. So
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it is my
14:37
opinion that these
14:39
satellite incisolans
14:43
indicate that this injury
14:46
did not happen with one pull of the
14:48
blade. There
14:50
were additional injuries to his head, causing him
14:52
to be cut in and
14:54
then there was movement back and forth, and
14:57
as it comes up, it creates these
14:59
satellite injuries. So this
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does represent
15:12
multiple lateral movements of
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the blade. There
15:17
were additional injuries to his head, caused
15:19
by the hammer, including a depressed skull
15:21
fracture. That
15:48
would not happen if the heart wasn't beating. Also
15:51
the neck, the blood loss, the hemorrhage
15:53
around that, the heart had to be
15:55
beating during all these events, but that
15:57
does not mean they're conscious. Back
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at the crime scene, investigators meticulously searched
16:02
the home. They found
16:05
blood stains that indicated that Taitan had
16:07
managed to crawl away before succumbing to
16:09
his injuries. This
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showed a very disturbing reality. Taitan
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was alive as his throat was slashed down
16:17
to the bone, and alive long enough for
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him to crawl away. During
16:22
their search, investigators found a hammer and a
16:24
fillet knife wrapped in a toil both stained
16:27
with blood under a sink in the game
16:29
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news of the double murder spread across Florida,
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the sheriff's office released a statement which read,
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An autopsy concluded today confirmed the
17:53
deaths as homicides. This
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is still a very active investigation.
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said that Robert and Tatum's parents
18:02
weren't considered suspects and that
18:04
their father wasn't home at the time. Chad
18:07
had worked as a long-distance truck driver. The
18:11
community was truly horrified by the brutal details
18:13
of the boy's deaths. Robert
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and Tatum were innocent children and
18:19
they had met a violent and tragic end. In
18:23
their shock and sorrow, the community rallied desperately
18:25
to support the family as
18:27
they navigated their profound grief. Neighbours
18:31
and friends thought of ways to help offering
18:33
condolences and assistance in any way they could.
18:37
A GoFundMe was set up and within less
18:40
than a day it reached its target of $8,000.
18:44
But over the next couple of days that swelled to more
18:46
than $22,000. The
18:49
GoFundMe read in part, Tatum
18:52
and Robert were good kids who were loved
18:54
by everyone. They loved playing
18:56
video games, swimming and hanging out with
18:58
their family. They had
19:00
dreams and goals for their life that they
19:02
will never be able to fulfill. As
19:05
part of the investigation, detectives
19:07
meticulously interviewed everybody in the
19:09
family seeking to uncover whether
19:12
anyone harboured any ill intentions.
19:15
Part of the investigation also focused on
19:17
how the murders were committed without anybody
19:19
hearing a single thing. Detectives
19:23
did an experiment to figure this out. They
19:26
all stood in different parts of the house and called
19:28
to one another, made noise and banged on the walls. Sure enough because
19:30
of the layout of the home,
19:33
they couldn't hear each other through the
19:36
walls. The
19:39
process of looking into the family,
19:41
their friends and any acquaintances, was thorough
19:44
and tense, each question peeling
19:46
back layers of their lives. But
19:49
it wasn't long before a suspect emerged from the shadows.
19:54
Sarah told detectives that after they moved to Melbourne, Rose,
20:00
she allowed her sister, Cindy,
20:03
Cindy's boyfriend Mark Wilson Jr. and
20:05
their baby girl Caitlin to
20:07
live in an outbuilding on their property.
20:10
Prior to the move, Cindy, Wilson
20:13
and Caitlin had intermittently stayed with
20:15
Sarah's family for several years. Cindy
20:30
and her family had been living in a place with no power and infested
20:32
with fleas. About
20:59
five days before the murder, Sarah let them move
21:01
in as they had no other place to stay
21:03
and a young baby to care for. But
21:07
things took a negative turn one afternoon
21:10
when Sarah visited them in the outbuilding.
21:13
She found the couple smoking marijuana in the
21:15
presence of their baby. I
21:17
actually said get
21:20
your stuff together and then I
21:22
told them to get in the car which they did. We
21:25
did leave there without the baby being in a
21:27
car seat at that time. And
21:30
then I said if I can't
21:33
remember my exact words but it
21:36
was to the lines of if
21:38
you guys can't get your shit together then I'm
21:40
gonna have no choice but to turn you you
21:42
know to turn it over to TCF to get
21:44
other people involved in helping. But they agreed to
21:47
move to my house so none of that was
21:49
a big issue. I mean it was
21:51
an issue if they didn't want to come and stay but
21:53
they wanted to come and stay. Sarah
21:55
said to detectives that she didn't notice
21:57
anything unusual about her sister or Wilson's
22:00
demeanor the night before the murders.
22:04
However, she did witness something strange. At the
22:06
time, Sarah didn't think much of it. But
22:08
in hindsight, it set off alarm bells. Detectives
22:32
began focusing on Wilson as a
22:34
person of interest. It
22:36
wouldn't be long before compelling evidence
22:38
emerged. The
22:45
day after the murders, Kristie Adkins
22:47
went to the Baker household to Comfort
22:49
Chad and Sarah. She
22:52
was the mother of Mark Wilson Jr. As
22:55
she left, Wilson and his girlfriend accompanied her
22:57
to spend the night at her place, about
23:00
15 miles away. After
23:02
the turmoil of the day, everybody
23:04
went straight to bed. The
23:07
following morning, Wilson's girlfriend joined Kristie in
23:09
the kitchen and casually remarked, Mark
23:12
needs to cooperate. The
23:15
possibility that her son could have been
23:17
involved in such a horrific crime had
23:19
never crossed Kristie's mind. But
23:22
it was no secret that detectives had
23:24
already considered him a person of interest.
23:28
With the sinking feelings, she went into the
23:30
bedroom where Wilson was sleeping and
23:32
urged him to speak with detectives and take
23:35
a polygraph test to clear his name. Wilson
23:38
groggily rolled over and began getting out of
23:40
bed to put his pants on. He
23:43
then responded, Mom, I
23:45
can't do that. Kristie
23:48
was stunned, uncertain of his meaning.
23:51
She asked, Why Mark? Did
23:53
you hurt those babies? Looking
23:56
down at the floor, he quietly
23:58
replied. Yes, mum.
24:01
I did it." Horrified,
24:03
Kristy felt her world shatter. She
24:07
knew what she had to do. Without
24:09
revealing her intentions to her son, she
24:11
left immediately and went directly to the
24:14
sheriff's office. Kristy
24:16
sat down with the detectives and recounted exactly
24:18
what her son had said. Determined
24:22
to help the investigation, she
24:24
agreed to wear recording equipment to
24:27
try and elicit a detailed confession from her
24:29
son. Kristy
24:31
picked up Wilson and drove around
24:33
Putnam County, with detectives following close
24:36
behind. She
24:38
pleaded with her son to explain what had happened.
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On the recording, her voice trembled as
24:43
she said, "'I need an answer.
24:46
I need to know why. Why
24:48
did this happen? You're my child.
24:50
You're my son. Why can't you
24:53
tell me?'" Wilson
24:55
then quietly responded that
24:57
he was responsible for the murders. Its
25:01
mother then demanded, "'For my
25:03
own piece of fucking mind, what flipped
25:05
your mind to make you hurt them?'" What
25:09
Wilson said next shook Kristy to
25:12
her very core. He
25:15
replied, "'Cindy did.
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And my daughter.'" According
25:20
to Wilson, he thought that Cindy was meant
25:22
to kill Sarah and Landon while he was
25:25
killing Robert and Tatum. He
25:27
said, "'Cindy was supposed to
25:30
do the first half.'" Referring
25:32
to Sarah and Landon. Kristy
25:35
expressed anger and bewilderment, replying to
25:37
her son, "'This is
25:39
not real. This is not real. You're
25:42
my son. You're my baby.'" However,
25:45
he then said that he only believed this, and
25:48
that Cindy hadn't actually said anything to
25:50
him about the murders or wanting to
25:53
kill Sarah and Landon. He
25:56
said that there was something in his head compelling
25:58
him. After
26:04
making the confession, Wilson stopped responding to
26:06
his mother. Detectives
26:09
who were trailing close behind decided to pull
26:11
them over, and they arrested Wilson
26:13
then and there. He
26:16
was transported to the police station, where he
26:18
was asked about the murders of Tatum and
26:20
Robert, unaware his mother had
26:22
covertly recorded him. At
26:25
first he expressed surprise, telling
26:28
the detectives, That's crazy,
26:31
those boys were like family to me. He
26:33
continued to deny any involvement in the murders,
26:37
but something within him changed when
26:39
detectives showed him photographs of Tatum
26:41
and Robert's mutilated bodies. Wilson
26:45
looked horrified. He covered
26:47
his face with his hands and sobbed, Oh
26:50
my god, oh my god, oh my
26:52
god. The
26:54
detectives then played audio of Wilson's
26:57
conversation with his mother, and eventually
26:59
he broke down and admitted to killing Tatum and
27:02
Robert. Wilson
27:04
told detectives that on the morning of the murders,
27:06
he was high on methamphetamine. He said
27:10
that he'd been awake taking the drug for the past
27:12
three days. Wilson
27:15
said he felt that the Baker family
27:17
had been tearing his family apart, and
27:19
added that Cindy fucked with his head. According
27:23
to Wilson he loved the boys, but he
27:26
suspected that they were abusing his daughter, or
27:29
having some kind of a sexual relationship
27:31
with his girlfriend. He
27:33
said, It would be
27:35
like if somebody was making your wife and your daughter
27:37
do shit and hide it from you, and
27:40
keep you walking around. He
27:43
said that this was the motivation behind the murders,
27:46
but then suggested a second
27:48
motivation. He
27:50
said he believed that Sarah and her family were
27:52
coming for him and his family by
27:54
threatening to call the Department of Children and
27:56
Families. Wilson
27:58
told the detectives the way he killed Tatum
28:01
and Robert, he wasn't angry. He
28:04
commented, It's really foggy.
28:06
I wasn't really conscious. He
28:09
described the murders more like a bad dream
28:12
than something that actually happened. He
28:15
stated, I've been thinking
28:17
about it and just psychological
28:19
fucking hell. In
28:22
reference to his girlfriend Cindy and
28:24
her alleged involvement, Wilson said
28:27
that Cindy never actually said anything
28:29
to him about killing anybody. He
28:32
said that he just thought that she wanted the
28:34
boys and Sarah dead, telling
28:36
detectives. She was
28:38
making me feel like it was something that I had to
28:40
do, you know, but without saying it.
28:44
After Wilson was arrested, detectives looked into
28:46
the claims he had made during his
28:48
confession. He said that Robert and Tatum
28:50
could have been abusing his daughter or
28:53
could have been having some kind of relationship with
28:55
his girlfriend. However,
28:57
detectives couldn't find a single shred of evidence
29:00
to back these claims up. Wilson
29:02
had also said to detectives he believed that
29:05
Cindy was going to kill Sarah and Landon,
29:08
but once more, there was no evidence
29:10
to corroborate this. The
29:12
detectives next searched the art building where Wilson
29:14
had been living with his family. They
29:17
came across a letter he had written, and it
29:19
was stated the morning of the murders. In
29:22
the letter, Wilson expressed love for Cindy
29:25
and their daughter, but also
29:27
mentioned getting frustrated and coming
29:29
across as angry or confrontational.
29:32
He spoke about their daughter in
29:34
the letter, describing her as extraordinary
29:37
and our greatest accomplishment. He
29:39
then added, I can't lose you
29:41
to. Please promise you will always
29:43
know that her father is a soldier and
29:46
that he loved you from day one and will always
29:48
love you both until the end of time. After
29:51
Wilson was arrested, he provided a
29:53
DNA sample. When
29:56
this was compared to the DNA found on the knife
29:58
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announcing the arrest of Wilson, state
31:16
attorney R.J. Larissa announced, I
31:19
can tell you I've been working in the
31:21
criminal justice system since 1980, and these
31:23
are some of the most brutal murders that I've ever
31:25
heard of. He attacked those
31:27
two kids without mercy. He
31:30
said that the Baker family had done a lot
31:32
to help Wilson out, and this was how he
31:34
repaid them. The
31:37
state attorney also said that while he believed
31:39
the murders warranted the death penalty, he
31:41
needed to review the case and speak with the family.
31:44
The fact that the killer had been someone that the
31:47
family welcomed into their home wasn't
31:49
lost on the community. It
31:52
struck fear into the hearts of parents, especially
31:55
parents who have offered a helping harm to
31:57
a family member in need. Colby
32:00
Baker, one of the boy's older brothers, touched
32:02
on this when he posted on Facebook. It
32:06
be the people that you let live with you, the people
32:08
you called family, the ones that
32:10
acted as if they cared that will really
32:12
fuck your whole life up. I
32:15
really hope you rot in there, and I
32:17
hope you get the maximum sentence possible,
32:19
you sick fuck. Wilson
32:23
was subsequently charged with two counts of
32:25
first-degree murder and was ordered to
32:27
be held without bond in the Putnam County Jail. During
32:31
his court hearing via video link, he asked
32:33
for a public defender instead of a personal
32:35
lawyer. This request
32:37
was approved by Judge Howard McGillan. After
32:42
speaking with the family and looking at the facts of
32:44
the case, in October it was announced that the death
32:46
penalty was going to be sought against Wilson. He
32:50
was further charged with one count of
32:52
burglary with battery and burglary while armed.
32:55
State Attorney Larissa said that the factors
32:57
in deciding the death penalty was that
32:59
the murders were especially heinous, atrocious, and
33:02
cruel. He further
33:04
said that they believed they were committed
33:06
in a cold, calculated, and premeditated manner.
33:09
Putnam County Sheriff Gator DeLoach commented
33:11
that his thoughts remained with the
33:14
family and said that the crime scene
33:16
was one of the worst he had ever seen in his
33:18
entire life. He
33:20
stated, We're confident that
33:22
with hard work of our deputy
33:24
investigators, victim's advocate, and the State
33:27
Attorney's office, that we will provide
33:29
justice for Robert and Tatum and
33:31
provide closure for the family. The
33:34
trial was pushed back several times because of
33:36
the COVID pandemic. But
33:39
in the meantime, kids returned to the
33:41
Megasports Camp at Living Hope Church in
33:43
Florahome. Tatum and
33:45
Robert had been at the camp in 2019, which had been led by
33:48
pastors Dave and Tommy Speddon for
33:50
more than 15 years. Each
33:53
newcomer was given a blue and orange wristband
33:56
in memory of Tatum and Robert. recollected.
34:01
Taitan had celebrated his 13th
34:03
birthday one of the days of the camp
34:05
and we brought him to the platform to sing
34:07
Happy Birthday to him. Their
34:09
funeral was held at the church and we
34:11
wanted to do something special this year. In
34:15
their memory, coaches at the camp were asked to pick
34:17
a camper of the week award based
34:19
on character and participation. Each
34:23
camper was then presented with a medal by
34:25
Taitan and Robert's father, Chad. By
34:30
the 12th of October 2022, the
34:32
jury was selected and seated and
34:34
opening statements were ready to begin.
34:37
Prosecutor Jennifer Dutton was the first
34:39
to take the floor and she said
34:41
to the jury that Wilson had carried
34:44
out a premeditated attack against the Baker
34:46
brothers. The defendant in
34:48
Cindy brought up early
34:50
around 6.30am, dark
34:53
outside and they were to the circle K. to
34:57
get donuts and coffee. They
35:01
return back to the Baker home and
35:04
Cindy goes into their outbuilding
35:07
department to feed her products
35:10
and you will learn that it was at that time
35:12
that the defendant obtained
35:15
a hammer from
35:17
one of the buildings on the property. She armed
35:20
himself with his fillet
35:23
knife and
35:25
he entered the Baker's home with
35:28
the intent to kill those boys.
35:32
The boys were sleeping when they were attacked.
35:35
The defendant bashed their heads
35:37
in with a hammer
35:41
multiple times and just
35:43
to make sure they
35:46
were dead, he later told
35:48
detectives, he also slid
35:50
their friends. During
35:54
defense attorney Courtney Davidson's opening
35:56
statements, she didn't dispute
35:58
that Wilson the brothers. However,
36:02
she argued that his actions don't match
36:04
the charges against him. She
36:07
said to the jury, This is a
36:09
tough case, a very tough case,
36:12
a case where Mark shows remorse and
36:14
takes accountability, but it
36:16
is not a case of first-degree premeditated
36:18
murder. The testimony
36:20
got underway with Taityn and Robert's
36:22
mother, Sarah, describing the horrific moment
36:24
she found them dead. She
36:27
told the jury that after moving into their new
36:29
home, they had struggled to get Wi-Fi throughout the
36:32
property. As a
36:34
result, the boys often stayed in the living room so
36:36
that they could use their cell phones before
36:39
bed. So in the meantime, my children slept
36:41
in different areas wherever their phone
36:44
would get service, so they could
36:46
watch YouTube or their
36:48
video game streaming or whatever
36:50
they normally did to keep
36:52
them occupied. One always slept
36:55
here, one always got service over here in
36:57
this corner. Do you remember who was always
36:59
in which room? Yes, Taityn was always in
37:01
this room, the game room, and Robert was
37:04
always in the living room. She
37:06
recollected the gruesome discoveries that morning,
37:08
telling the jury, In
37:10
that moment, I started screaming at
37:13
the top of my lungs. The
37:15
boys' grandmother, Deborah, was the next witness,
37:18
and she described Sarah coming to her home
37:20
in a state of hysteria, screaming
37:22
that somebody had killed the boys. She
37:26
said that at first she didn't believe Sarah, but
37:29
it soon became all too clear
37:31
that she was telling the truth
37:33
once she entered the family's home.
37:35
She recollected, I
37:37
was shaking and grabbing him, saying,
37:39
Taityn, Taityn. After
37:41
Deborah's testimony, the prosecution presented the hammer and
37:44
knife that was used during the murders. Sarah
37:47
had testified that she saw Wilson sharpening
37:49
the knife the night beforehand. The
37:53
jury also got to hear the tape recording that
37:55
Wilson's mother, Christie, had made. Christie
37:58
described going to detect with what her son had
38:00
told her because it was the right thing to
38:03
do. Wilson's defence
38:05
team opted out of calling any
38:07
witnesses. They
38:09
provided no defence other than to say
38:11
that Wilson's crimes failed to constitute a
38:13
first-degree murder. During
38:16
their closing arguments, defence attorney Brian Smith
38:18
said that mediation on a crime must
38:20
be long enough to allow for reflection.
38:24
He argued that in the recording of Wilson's
38:26
confession, he didn't appear to have thought about
38:28
the murders at all before he committed them.
38:32
He stated, Reflection isn't
38:34
what we saw in that interview. Where's
38:36
the reflection? During
38:39
prosecutor Jason Lewis's closing arguments,
38:42
he refuted this claim. He
38:45
argued that Wilson displayed numerous instances
38:47
of reflection when he slashed
38:49
and bludgeoned Tatum and Robert dozens of times.
38:52
He also said that Wilson displayed reflection when
38:54
he left the outbuilding, entered the
38:57
boy's home, retrieved a hammer and a fillet
38:59
knife, and attacked the boys in two separate
39:01
rooms. He said
39:03
to the jury, This is
39:05
not a case where the evidence is difficult. This
39:08
is a case where the evidence is straightforward,
39:11
and it's a mountain of evidence. Prosecutor
39:14
Jennifer Dunton also made some comments
39:16
during her closing arguments. She
39:19
pointed to the note that Wilson had written to
39:21
his girlfriend, asking her to remember
39:23
him well and tell their daughter about who
39:25
he was. Dunton said
39:27
that this letter proved Wilson planned on committing
39:30
the murders. She
39:32
said to the jury, Why would
39:34
he need to write this kind of note? There
39:36
was no evidence that they were in danger of breaking up.
39:40
It's very clear, now that the trial and
39:42
evidence is over, that the
39:44
defendant thought about killing these boys. Family
39:47
members turned away and covered their
39:49
eyes as Dunton presented photographs of
39:51
Tatum and Robert's autopsies. She
39:54
then stated, Every blow
39:56
takes force, and there's a chance to
39:58
stop. every step of
40:00
the way there's opportunities to stop and
40:02
reflect, realise what you're doing
40:05
and not continue. It
40:07
was now up to the jury to determine
40:09
Wilson's fate. They
40:11
deliberated for just two hours and fifteen minutes
40:14
before they returned with the verdict. They
40:17
found Mark Wilson Jr guilty of
40:19
first-degree murder, as well as guilty
40:21
of committing armed burglary and burglary
40:23
with assault or robbery. As
40:27
the verdict was announced, Wilson looked to the ground,
40:30
but somebody from within the public gallery
40:32
let out a joyful yell of excitement.
40:36
Outside of court, Sarah said she was grateful
40:38
for the jury's decision and hoped
40:41
that Wilson received the death penalty at
40:43
the upcoming sentencing. The
40:49
penalty phase of the murder trial began on the
40:51
15th of October. While
40:53
Wilson's defence team were seeking a live
40:56
sentence, the prosecution were hoping
40:58
for a death sentence. Prosecutor
41:01
Jason Lewis underlined the impact of the
41:03
attacks in his opening statements. He
41:07
reminded the jury that the boys had been
41:09
slashed and bludgeoned dozens of times. He
41:12
stated, Robert and Tatum will never
41:14
get to go to high school. They'll
41:16
never go on a first date. They're
41:18
never going to drive a car. They're
41:20
never going to go to college. They're
41:23
dead. And they're dead because
41:25
this man sitting right here brutally and
41:27
viciously killed them. He
41:30
called on the jury of 12 women to assign
41:32
Wilson the death penalty, referring to
41:34
it as the only fair and just sentence
41:36
in this case. During
41:39
defence attorney Rosemary Peoples' opening statements,
41:42
she made no attempt to excuse what
41:45
Wilson had done. Instead, she asked the
41:47
jury to consider his background and broken
41:49
mind. She said to
41:51
the jury, Tears and sorrow
41:54
will never undo Wilson's actions. And
41:56
for that, he must be punished. We're
41:58
not going to ask you to forgive mark. We're
42:01
not going to ask you to like mark. We're
42:03
going to ask for your compassion and
42:05
your understanding. We're going to
42:07
ask for your mercy." Testimony
42:10
was then presented about Wilson's
42:12
upbringing. Pamela Wilson,
42:14
his aunt on his father's side,
42:17
said that while she came from a
42:19
highly educated family, at least one member
42:21
had ongoing problems with substance abuse, alcohol
42:24
and drugs. She
42:26
further said that this person had gone to
42:28
prison for five years for a sex crime.
42:32
Pamela told the jury that she once witnessed her
42:34
father hit Wilson in the face so that he
42:36
could take his seat. Pamela
42:38
referred to this as abuse, but
42:41
when she was cross examined by prosecutor
42:43
Lewis, she said, it
42:45
was harsh discipline. Pamela
42:47
said she never saw any signs of trauma
42:50
or bruising on her nephew that would indicate
42:52
he was being abused. Wilson's
42:54
mother, Christie, then described to the
42:57
court how his father, Mark, was
42:59
abusive towards her. The
43:02
abuse had begun when she was eight and a
43:04
half months pregnant with her son. She
43:07
recalled an incident where he had been drinking
43:09
with friends in their bedroom until 3am and
43:11
she asked him to leave so that she
43:13
could sleep. When they
43:15
did, Mark flew into a rage and threw
43:17
her around the room. He
43:20
spat on Christie, poured beer on her and
43:22
then threatened her with a broken glass. He
43:26
told her, if you ever leave
43:28
me, I will kill you. She
43:31
said that this set the basis for the rest
43:33
of their relationship. Christie
43:36
recalled countless other experiences just like
43:38
this one, where Mark choked her
43:40
and even placed their dog in the
43:42
oven and switched it on. However, despite
43:44
his violence towards her, Christie said that
43:46
she never saw Mark abuse their son.
43:50
She eventually left Mark and gained joint
43:53
custody over Wilson, but said
43:55
that Mark only ever looked after Wilson because he
43:57
knew that it upset her. She
44:00
recollected. He was not going
44:02
to let me take Mark. It was
44:04
the only thing Mark Sr knew that I loved
44:07
and cared about. But
44:09
then one day Mark vanished for several
44:11
years and took Wilson with him out
44:14
of state in violation of their custody
44:16
agreement. She only
44:18
saw her son again after Mark abandoned
44:20
him in Oklahoma. The
44:23
jury then got to hear from toxicologist
44:25
Susan Scolley Danziger, who had spoken with
44:27
Wilson about his history of substance abuse.
44:30
Wilson had started smoking marijuana when he was
44:33
just 10 years old, and had
44:35
then begun using crack cocaine when he was 12. Apparently
44:39
taking drugs was a family event in
44:42
Wilson's childhood, as the
44:44
toxicologist testified. It
44:46
was like family all sitting around together smoking
44:48
a bowl of marijuana. That
44:50
was sort of the daily habit. Wilson
44:53
was dependent on methamphetamine and alcohol at
44:56
various points, and at times he would
44:58
smoke crack cocaine four or five times
45:00
per day. Scolley
45:02
Danziger said to the jury that regular use
45:05
of such drugs can have lasting effects on
45:07
the brain. According
45:09
to several experts, the toxic home environment that Wilson
45:11
grew up in caused permanent
45:13
changes to his brain. Dr.
45:17
Stephen Nelson said that fight or flight
45:19
hormones can enter a baby while a
45:21
mother is pregnant and can affect brain
45:23
development. He
45:25
said that growing up surrounded by abuse can have
45:27
that same impact, even if the
45:29
child is not the one being abused. Dr.
45:32
Nelson told the jury that scans
45:35
showed abnormalities in parts of Wilson's
45:37
brain associated with memory, stress response
45:39
and impulse control. During
45:42
Dr. Nelson's assessment of Wilson, he was
45:44
told of the challenges he faced while such
45:47
as whether he was going to have enough to eat
45:49
or have clothes to wear. He
45:52
testified. His fight or
45:54
flight instinct essentially had to be on all
45:56
the time. He concluded
45:59
the decades of drug use were not the only ones. drug use
46:01
had taken its toll on Wilson, asked
46:03
its sleep deprivation immediately before the
46:05
murders. He said
46:07
to the court, "'All of these
46:09
factors combined made it such that at
46:11
that moment he was unable to make
46:13
proper decisions. It appeared
46:16
to him at that time to be the best
46:18
decision.'" Wilson had
46:20
also been analysed by licensed
46:22
psychologist Michael Quinones, who diagnosed
46:24
him with numerous adverse childhood
46:26
experiences as well as
46:28
symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder. He
46:31
said that at least once a
46:33
day, Wilson experienced intrusive memories of
46:35
an incident where his father had
46:37
put a gun to a woman's head. He
46:40
said that these and other factors
46:42
most likely harmed Wilson's social skills
46:44
and brain development, telling the
46:47
courtroom, "'Chronic stress
46:49
has a debilitating impact on an
46:51
adult's ability to function.'" The
46:55
defence testimony concluded with a
46:57
brief interview with Wilson's 22-year-old
46:59
sister, Kayla Woodard. She
47:03
said that growing up, Wilson was somebody that people looked
47:05
up to. She described
47:07
how when she was nervous for her first day
47:09
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47:11
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48:22
called on Dr. Tonya Werner. She
48:25
said that while Wilson claimed he was high on
48:28
methamphetamine at the time of the murders, she
48:30
found no evidence to support this. She
48:34
said that in her experience, when people have
48:36
recently taken a large amount of meth, they
48:39
typically appear hyper, agitated,
48:41
paranoid or aggressive. Even
48:44
with medication, it takes a couple of days for that to
48:47
clear up. But
48:49
in contrast, after the murders, she
48:51
found Wilson clear and not disorganised
48:53
or psychotic. She
48:56
also found no issues with his cognitive
48:58
function or memory, except for when
49:01
she asked him about the actual murders. Forensic
49:05
psychologist Dr. William Meadows agreed with
49:07
her assessment. He
49:09
said that Wilson's claims were inconsistent with
49:11
real memory problems telling the jury, "...Amnesia
49:15
is not going to be selective for the
49:17
most negative parts of your case. It's
49:20
certainly not going to start when you kill
49:22
somebody, then stop when you go to
49:24
a medical centre, then start again when
49:26
you provide a confession to your mother,
49:28
then start again when you lie to
49:31
the police, and that's what I
49:33
observed." He
49:35
said that Wilson appeared to be
49:37
malingering or faking his memory problems.
49:40
The courtroom then fell into a
49:42
hushed silence as victim impact statements
49:44
began. Sarah's
49:47
voice was tight with emotion, as she said.
49:50
Every day I wake up. I
49:53
have to get through another day, and I'm faced
49:55
with the pain, the hurt that my family and
49:57
I now have to face for the rest of
49:59
my life. our time in this world. As
50:02
this trial ends and the world continues to spin,
50:04
I will still be
50:07
left here staring at two teddy bears,
50:10
two stuffed bears that contain the ashes of
50:12
my own children. That
50:14
is all that I have left in this world
50:16
of my wonderful boys." People
50:19
wept in the public gallery, as Sarah
50:21
described her boys. She
50:24
said that Robert was strong-willed,
50:26
hard-headed, and incredibly smart. She
50:29
said that if he actually had been given the chance,
50:32
he would have made the world a better place.
50:36
As for Tatum, Sarah said his
50:38
smile was so big and he was always smiling
50:40
no matter what was going on. She
50:43
commented, everywhere he went
50:45
he made friends. The
50:48
boys' father Chad also took to the witness
50:50
stand to describe them. He
50:52
touched on Tatum's passion for cooking
50:55
and Robert's love of baseball. Chad
50:58
was out of town when Wilson killed his boys,
51:01
and he recalled losing to Robert in a game
51:03
of pool just before he left. His
51:06
voice quivered with emotion as he said, "'Robert
51:09
told me he was going to kick my butt when I
51:11
got home. I told him, we
51:14
will see about that and that he'd better
51:16
practice.'" Deborah,
51:18
the boy's grandmother, recollected how she went
51:20
to the emergency room twice in the
51:23
wake of the murders because
51:25
she felt like her heart was being
51:27
physically crushed. Each time
51:29
she was sent home with a diagnosis of grief.
51:32
The boy's cousin Kelly Coco described
51:35
how each holiday felt like a punch in
51:37
the gut because it was a
51:39
memory they couldn't create together. She
51:42
said, "'I'm filled with grief and
51:44
depression. Some days I still
51:46
can't get out of bed.' Colton,
51:49
the boy's oldest brother, read aloud
51:51
a letter that had been written
51:53
by the boy's best friend, Mark
51:55
McCumber Jr. He
51:58
said, "'Let's just say that' this,
52:01
losing Robert and Tatum Baker, I
52:03
lost me. Let me tell
52:05
you how I no longer play sports, because
52:07
it's what we did together. I
52:10
no longer go fishing, and I
52:12
love fishing, but when I go, I
52:14
think of the boys so much, and
52:16
how much they loved fishing." Mark's
52:19
statement continued, with him saying he looked at
52:21
the wall each day, and reminded
52:23
himself that while Tatum and Robert might not
52:26
be there in person, they're always
52:28
there in his heart. After
52:31
four days of testimony, closing arguments
52:33
were presented. Prosecutor
52:36
Dutton said that Tatum had defensive
52:38
injuries to his hands. She
52:41
said this showed that he tried to defend himself
52:43
as his throat was slashed. She
52:46
said after this, Wilson bludgeoned him
52:48
over the head with a hammer. She
52:52
stated, it was completely
52:54
unnecessary, caused a hideous amount
52:56
of pain, showed a complete
52:58
indifference to the suffering of another human
53:00
being. The prosecutor
53:02
said that even when Wilson admitted to the
53:05
murders, he failed to
53:07
provide meaningful details or help detectives
53:09
understand his motive. Defense
53:12
attorney Peeples, in contrast, argued
53:15
that he gave so little information simply
53:17
because his brain didn't function properly. The
53:20
jury then went off to deliberate Wilson's
53:22
fate. It
53:24
took them less than an hour to decide
53:26
that Mark Wilson, Jr. deserved to
53:28
die for the gruesome murders of Tatum
53:30
and Robert Baker. But
53:32
the decision on whether or not that would be carried out
53:35
was up to the judge, and he
53:37
needed time to think it over. After
53:40
the verdict, the family spoke with the media. Though
53:43
relieved that the ordeal was finally over, lingering
53:46
questions haunted them. No
53:49
one could fathom what had caused Wilson to snap
53:51
and kill the boys. Sarah
53:54
even mentioned that Wilson had been on good terms
53:56
with Tatum and Robert, leading up to the murders.
54:00
He had recently taken them fishing and fixed
54:02
up their dirt bike. She
54:05
stated, He was
54:07
just really kids-oriented, more than
54:09
he was towards even my sister or me.
54:13
The family were stunned when they learned from
54:15
testimony that Wilson wasn't even on methamphetamine at
54:17
the time of the murders. Wilson
54:20
had given so many varying descriptions of what
54:23
drove him to carry out the murders, but
54:26
really, none of them made any sense.
54:30
The family returned to court on 28 January 2023. Judge
54:36
Howard McGillen asked Wilson to stand,
54:38
as he stated. It
54:41
remains solidly within the discretion of the
54:43
court to make a final decision. As
54:46
a judge, however, one remains mindful
54:48
that we do not sit to impose
54:51
our own biases and preferences upon the
54:53
parties. That's
54:55
something that's overlooked in today's society. As
54:58
a judge, it's our role to
55:00
be neutral and independent arbiters of facts
55:03
and law. He
55:05
said that the defendant had committed two
55:07
truly horrific murders of innocent children, and
55:10
said that Taiten's death was particularly
55:12
cruel. He said
55:14
that evidence showed Taiten was alive and
55:16
suffering for some time throughout the assault,
55:19
including when his neck was sawed with the blade.
55:22
The judge said that while the mental health and
55:24
childhood trauma that was presented are proven
55:27
in the abstract, the court
55:29
found no proof they were relevant to the
55:31
murders. He then
55:33
officially handed Mark Wilson Jr. a death
55:36
sentence. The defendant is remanded to the
55:38
custody of the Sheriff of Plattin County
55:41
to be held and transmitted to the Department of
55:43
Corrections, and
55:46
to be held there in close custody pending imposition
55:49
of a sentence of death in a manner prescribed
55:51
by law. On such date
55:53
as may be set by proper authority, the defendant shall
55:55
be put to death for this offense.
55:58
Outside of court, the boy's cousin Then
56:00
Kelly Coco said to the media
56:02
that while the family were relieved, there
56:05
would be no real closure. She
56:08
stated, I think
56:10
that's the hardest part. You
56:13
never feel safe, you know. The
56:15
boogeyman is always outside, not
56:18
inside. Well
56:42
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56:44
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56:46
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