A heartbreaking, gut-wrenching interview this week, just in time for you to decompress on your commute home. Today, we have the extended footage from our conversation with Gary Portugal, the disgraced personal banker in Chatapicnic.

Could this misunderstood artist be the key to Chatapicnic murders? Tune in to find out!

Hosts: Gary Pascal and Shannon Noll

Sound Design: Chris Yearwood

Artwork: Loren Egeland

Guests: Jonathan Euseppi. You can catch Jonathan at iO with his Harold team, Big Tobacco, and in his November solo show, Grief is Horny.