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I'm Ryan Nobles on a busy afternoon
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And we will get to the very
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latest developments tied to the Biden and
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Trump campaigns in a moment. But we
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do begin with breaking news out of
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the Supreme Court. The court is acknowledging
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that it accidentally posted online a document
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in one of the most highly anticipated
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cases of the term on the legality
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of emergency abortions. According to the document
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that was obtained and then published by
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Bloomberg Law, the court appears
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poised to allow emergency abortions
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in Idaho despite the state's
1:03
strict abortion ban. Now, to
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be clear, NBC News has not confirmed
1:08
if this is a draft decision, an
1:10
actual decision, or perhaps neither. But
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the 22-page document also doesn't appear
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to signal a sweeping court ruling
1:17
on this matter either. At
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the heart of this case is
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whether the Idaho's abortion ban trumps
1:23
federal law requiring certain hospitals to
1:26
provide patients with emergency treatments.
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If this document is a draft
1:31
opinion, it suggests the court is
1:33
only providing temporary relief to the
1:36
plaintiffs while leaving fundamental legal questions
1:38
unresolved. In what's notated
1:40
as a concurring opinion in the
1:42
document obtained by Bloomberg, Justice Contagio
1:45
Brown Jackson writes, to be clear,
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today's decision is not a victory
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for pregnant patients in Idaho. It
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is a delay. While this court
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dawdles and the country waits, pregnant
1:56
people experiencing medical conditions remain in
1:58
a precarious position. as
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their doctors are kept in the dark about
2:02
what the law requires. This court had a
2:04
chance to bring clarity and certainty to this
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tragic situation, and we have squandered it.
2:09
In April, my colleague, Laura Jarrett, traveled
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to Boise to speak with a plaintiff
2:13
in a different but similar case who
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was denied an emergency abortion. Her own
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doctors said that she needed. Yeah,
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we were both disgusted
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by the treatment of our state. We
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were disgusted that just a year prior,
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we would have been able to get this care
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here in our state. And
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we were angry that not
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only did we have to go through the
2:45
trauma and grief of losing a very wanted
2:48
baby, but then we had to
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have this emotional trauma of
2:55
traveling to get the procedure.
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Well, there's a lot to unpack here, and for
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more on all of this, I'm joined on set
3:02
by NBC News Washington correspondent, Yamiche Alcindor, and Greg
3:05
Stor, who is the Supreme Court reporter for Bloomberg
3:07
Knows, who broke this story, and Elizabeth Sepper, who
3:09
was an expert in reproductive and health law and
3:11
a professor at the University of Texas Law School.
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So, Greg, we obviously have to start with you.
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You've been covering the court for quite some time.
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Were you not sure exactly what you were reading
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when you looked at the court's website this morning
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to unpack how this whole thing played out? Yeah,
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there's a certain, like, am
3:27
I really seeing what I think I'm
3:30
seeing quality to this? The
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court does things more or less
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like clockwork, and the way it's supposed to work
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is the Chief Justice announces the opinions from the
3:39
bench, and that's when they appear on the website.
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This one, he did not announce from the bench,
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and it did appear on the website. And so
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there was a question of trying to figure out,
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is this actually a legitimate Supreme Court opinion? We
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know that it's not a final opinion, but it
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certainly looks like it is a near final opinion,
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and then it was a matter of trying to figure out what they said
3:59
in it. The court is normally pretty
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cryptic about the way it does its business. Were
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you surprised that they confirmed so quickly that they
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posted this by accident? Not surprised
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because by all appearances, it really, once we
4:09
looked at it closely, it certainly
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was a Supreme Court opinion, which may or
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may not be final. So
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the court, of course, also said, you know,
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emphasize this is not a final opinion, which
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leaves open at least a theoretical possibility that
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some aspects of it could change. But we
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certainly are learning a lot about what the
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justices seem to think about these you mean and the
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conservative majority court is considering abortion cases post-ops.
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There's been a number of them. Of course,
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they just recently ruled on the abortion pill
4:39
case. This is interesting because they
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didn't seem to tackle the
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initial question that
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was being asked here. How does
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this really impact this issue moving forward in
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Idaho? Well, right now, if you're a patient
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in Idaho that was worried about whether or
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not you might get an emergency abortion based
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on your health and the future fertility, the
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Supreme Court, from our understanding, from Greg's reporting
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here, is that that will continue to be
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the case that you can get an emergency abortion. But
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the language that you just heard from Katonji Brown
5:07
Jackson on the idea that this court is
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delaying something, sort of kicking it down the
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road, that is the language that you're hearing
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from also reproductive rights groups who are advocating
5:15
for more abortion access in this country. I'm
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thinking about the president of Planned Parenthood who
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said that the Supreme Court had the opportunity
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here, and I guess still has the opportunity
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here, to say, Amtala trumps all sort of
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total near-ban abortions, like the one we see
5:28
in Idaho, and that women should be allowed
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and have to be allowed to get abortions,
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not only to save their lives, but also
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to save their health, which means doctors shouldn't
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wait for them to be at death's door in
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order to get an abortion in an emergency situation.
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The court is not doing that. They are saying
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that this case could continue in lower courts, and
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as a result, you're seeing this sort of shift
5:47
here where this is a court that overturned Roe
5:49
v. Wade. We know how they believe and think
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about abortion, but they are having these sort of
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nuanced decisions where you're seeing some
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abortion rights advocates say this is a good thing
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temporarily, but not to kind of win the party. that
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they would have wanted. All right, so let's bring in Elizabeth
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on that point. And we'll keep in mind here, Elizabeth, that
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we have not seen the actual copy
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of the document. It was accidentally
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posted. We saw what Bloomberg reported. What
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would be the significance of this, though,
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if the decision ultimately does allow emergency
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abortions to continue? All
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this really does is send the
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litigation back to the
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Court of Appeals and possibly to the
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trial court in Idaho. The
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Supreme Court here reached out to grab
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the case prematurely before the Court of
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Appeals had the opportunity to hear the
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case and issue a judgment. And
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now they've decided that that was a mistake.
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But as a result, women in Idaho
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have been airlifted in crisis situations out
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of state, a direct result for the
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past five months of the Supreme Court's
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decision to reach out and to lift
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the stay that the trial court there
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had ordered. It's also important to note
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that there's a parallel case
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involving a cert petition currently pending
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at the court out of Texas
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where M.Tala does not apply
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to protect pregnant people at the moment
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due to a decision of the Fifth
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Circuit Court of Appeals. So this is
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very much a pressing issue, and really
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the court has simply kicked the can
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down the road, perhaps
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just past the election. And maybe
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Zero went on that a little bit more for our
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viewers that are not familiar with M.Tala, which is a
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federal law which governs emergency care.
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Walk us through what the law
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says and how this
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really impacts the question of whether or not abortion
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care is covered. M.Tala
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is the Emergency Medical Treatment and
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Labor Act. It's a federal law
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that requires emergency care of all
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kinds in a narrow range of
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circumstances where someone has an emergency
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medical condition that puts
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their health in serious jeopardy, threatens
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their organ functioning and the like. And
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in some narrow slice of
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crisis situations, pregnant people will
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find that their health is in
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serious jeopardy in ways that can
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only be resolved through an abortion.
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And in those scenarios, Mtala has
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been understood by ER physicians around
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the country to
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require them to offer abortion care
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to their patients and that the
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pregnant person gets to decide. But
8:19
now that we have abortion bans
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in place, doctors are stuck between
8:23
criminal bans on abortion that have
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even narrower exceptions and the
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demands of Mtala that they provide some
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stabilizing abortion care in these
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crisis situations. And I want to
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play a bit of the arguments
8:37
that went back and forth in this
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case. We have the audio recording of
8:41
the oral arguments when it happened
8:43
earlier this year. Take a listen.
8:46
This particular patient, they
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tried, had to deliver her baby. The
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baby died. She had a
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hysterectomy. And she
8:56
can no longer have children. All
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right. You're telling me the doctor there couldn't
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have done the abortion earlier? Again,
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it goes back to whether a doctor
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can in good faith, medical judgment. That's
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a lot for the doctor to risk. It
9:11
is very case by case. The example of problem
9:13
is that. Well, I'm kind of shocked, actually,
9:15
because I thought your own expert had said
9:17
below that these kinds of cases were covered.
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And you're now saying they're not? No,
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I'm not saying that. That's just my point, Your Honor, is
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that. Well, you're hedging. I mean, Justice Sotomayor
9:25
is asking you, would this be covered or
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not? And it was my understanding that the
9:29
legislature's witnesses said that these would be covered.
9:32
Yeah. And those doctors said, if they
9:34
were exercising their medical judgment, they could
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in good faith determine that life-saving care
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was necessary. And that's my point. Is
9:40
this a subjective standard? But some
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doctors couldn't. Some
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doctors might reach a contrary conclusion,
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I think, as Justice Sotomayor is
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asking you. So if
9:51
they reached the conclusion that the legislature's
9:53
doctors did, would they
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be prosecuted under Idaho law? No,
9:59
no. If they reach
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the conclusion that Dr. Reynolds,
10:03
Dr. White did that these were life-saving...
10:05
What if the prosecutor thought differently? What if the
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prosecutor thought, well, I don't think any good faith
10:09
doctor could draw that conclusion I'm going to put
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on my expert? And that,
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Your Honor, is the nature of prosecutorial
10:17
discretion. We're throwing
10:19
that as the conservative justice, Coney Barrett,
10:21
who's pressing Idaho's attorney on that. Elizabeth,
10:24
does this... basically the same
10:27
exact scenario play out, even though this decision
10:29
may be in favor of the Biden administration?
10:33
So the same scenario could play
10:35
out in lots of states around
10:38
the country, certainly in Texas where
10:40
the Fifth Circuit has to determine
10:42
M.Tala does not preempt contrary state
10:44
law. And so we
10:46
will see that here. Now, given
10:49
that litigation is ongoing in Idaho, what
10:51
will probably happen is that at least
10:53
for now, we'll go back to
10:55
the status quo before the Supreme Court
10:57
intervened and women in Idaho will have
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access to M.Tala required care, at least
11:03
for the moment. All right, Greg, let's
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go back now to what this tells us about
11:07
the Supreme Court. I mean, should we expect that
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this decision comes tomorrow? Is there any way for
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us to determine that or is it still up
11:13
in the air? There's really no way
11:15
of knowing. We know we're going to get more opinions
11:17
tomorrow. We'll get some more Friday. We'll get some more
11:19
next week. It could come on any of those days.
11:22
As I suggested, a decent
11:24
chance of what happened was that one or more
11:26
justices said, I want to think about something, revise
11:28
something, and it may just depend on how long
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that takes. And who knows what
11:32
the effect of this inadvertent posting
11:35
of it will be. Maybe the justices
11:37
will say, oh, I don't want to
11:39
change anything now because it will be
11:41
clear what happened. But there has been
11:43
a lot of criticism that this court
11:45
is dragging its feet, getting these major
11:47
decisions out the door. I mean, I
11:49
guess the skeptic here might say you're
11:51
sitting on these and waiting to
11:53
put them out. Is there any way we can draw
11:55
that conclusion or is that taking it too far? Well,
11:57
I think one thing we're seeing when these opinions do
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come out. So like take the gun decision that
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came out last week. It was
12:04
not only eight to one, but you had seven
12:07
separate opinions. Every justice wanted to put his
12:09
or her own spin on things. And that's
12:11
really what we're seeing from this court right
12:13
now is that all these justices have a
12:15
lot to say. And in most
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cases, they don't agree with everybody else. Yeah.
12:19
And then of course, you mean two years
12:22
ago, the Dobbs decision leaked completely different situation.
12:24
This was an accidental posting that
12:26
was political actually going and getting it from
12:28
a source. But there are questions about the
12:30
credibility of the court on a number of different
12:32
aspects to something like this. Continue
12:35
to raise those questions. I mean, I think
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it's I think we probably we could all answer that question
12:39
at this table, which is there are big questions about
12:41
how the Supreme Court is functioning. You
12:43
already have an electorate where they are
12:46
where you see the American people disagreeing vehemently on
12:48
some of the decisions that the Supreme Court is
12:50
making. Think about Roe v. Wade. The majority of
12:53
Americans want to see some sort of access to
12:55
abortion and you had that decision leak anger, the
12:57
whole anger, at least 50 percent or about more
12:59
of the country. And then you then had
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the actual opinion come out. In this case, it seems like
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it just looks sloppy. It just seems like what is going
13:06
on at the Supreme Court that we're getting now a second
13:08
decision coming out before the actual official
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decision is coming out. So I
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mean, think about two years ago, we were all sitting
13:14
around tables saying this never happens at the Supreme Court.
13:16
We never know what the Supreme Court is doing. Now
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we're like, well, this is the second time. So maybe
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there will be a third. Who knows? I think the
13:23
credibility issue here with the Supreme Court, I should say,
13:25
with a number of other big factors of
13:27
our country, right? Science, journalism, politicians, everyone's credibility
13:29
here is being questioned. But the Supreme
13:31
Court certainly is not having a good
13:33
day today. Yeah, the faith in our
13:35
institutions certainly shaken across the board. You
13:37
mean, it's an excellent way to put
13:39
it. Terrific conversation, everyone. I appreciate it. Greg,
13:43
Elizabeth, and everyone, I appreciate you all for being here.
13:45
But stick around, Yamiche, because we are
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going to have you back here in the
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contentious, bitter, and potentially historic fight. Right
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now, President Biden is at Camp David,
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engaged in mock debates. Former
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President Trump is at his Mar-a-Lago home
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in what his team is calling a
15:59
more informal. preparation process. The audience for
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tomorrow night is shaping up to be
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huge according to a new AP poll.
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Nearly 40% of
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Americans say they plan on watching Biden and
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Trump face off alive at least
16:12
in part 40% say they plan on
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watching clips from the night and 41%
16:17
say they'll tune into news or social
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media for commentary about the debates and
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the candidates performances. The Biden
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campaign is looking to quell concerns about
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the president's age and fitness for office
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hoping the audience will see an unhinged
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Trump and an in command and
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nimble president for his part former
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president Trump continues to attack Biden
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repeatedly claiming without evidence that he'll
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be using performance enhancing drugs. The
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Biden campaign forcefully responding. President
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Biden defeated Donald Trump twice and
16:49
in previous debates, this is what he does
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because he doesn't have anything else to run on
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he doesn't have a plan he doesn't have
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a record for fighting for the American people he
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doesn't know why he's running except for to
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seek political retribution on his enemies and so he
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has to resort to these types of tactics.
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But a big question facing the
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Biden campaign will baiting Trump backfire
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NBC chief political analyst Chuck Todd
17:12
borns a contentious night could turn
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off viewers and voters of potentially
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for both sides if each
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candidate chooses to try to beat his opponent
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try to get him to expose his worst
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version of himself. The debate
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could devolve into an affair that turns
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off a lot of voters and even
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perhaps makes them a bit Robert F.
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Kennedy junior curious. Ahead
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of tomorrow's debate we've got new insight
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from a group of independent voters
17:38
in battleground Georgia where tomorrow's debate
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will take place it's part of
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the NBC news deciders focus group
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series produced in collaboration with engages
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Syracuse University in Sago these voters
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all of whom voted for Biden
17:50
or Trump in 2020 now say
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they're likely to vote
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for a 3rd party here's what they'll
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be watching for tomorrow night. By
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a show of fingers, who plans to watch
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the debate Thursday night between Trump and Biden? Four
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of you do. David does not. Well,
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maybe. What do you expect to learn from
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watching? The competency level of
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Joe Biden. This
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can sound awful, but it might be slightly entertaining.
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I want to see how they do. I'm
18:21
honestly going to watch it just
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to see two grown kids go
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head to head and insult each other, because
18:28
that's what they've always done. That's what Trump did
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last year, that he was insulting people left and
18:32
right. I have better things to do. I'm not
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going to sit here and watch two old,
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see now delusional men go back and
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forth with one another, throwing jabs at
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each other parties. I can care less
18:44
about Biden and Trump has to say.
18:46
Whether Trump's going to be over the
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top or Biden's going to have a
18:52
brain meltdown, I'm
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not really interested in watching
18:57
that. Would any of you say there's a
18:59
modest chance that this debate might
19:02
change your mind about whom you'll vote for? No.
19:07
No. Have no. Join
19:12
me on set once again NBC News
19:15
Washington correspondent Yamiche Alcindor and NBC chief
19:17
political analyst Chuck Todd. It's interesting,
19:20
I was at a wedding over the weekend in
19:22
my hometown of Buffalo, New York, and I was
19:25
shocked at the number of double haters I encountered.
19:27
That seems to be a growing
19:29
segment of the population here. From
19:32
this focus group that we looked at, these
19:34
double haters, what's driving their dislike of both
19:36
the candidates? And what is it about someone
19:38
like RFK Jr. that is drawing them in?
19:40
Well, I think when you talk to your family
19:42
in Buffalo, when I talk to people in Florida, my
19:44
family, I think the story of
19:47
this election will likely be these double haters and
19:49
a nation that really just is not looking
19:51
forward to a rematch between these two men
19:53
who already had their chance in the presidency.
19:55
So what we heard from these people, from
19:57
these voters in Georgia, these independent voters are
19:59
the... They really are tired of both of these
20:01
candidates. They don't want to see them. They think that
20:03
all of their issues and flaws make
20:06
them just not the right person for this moment. I
20:08
mean, we heard over and over again that people were
20:10
doing research and as a result found their way
20:12
to RFK Jr. These aren't people that just sort
20:14
of pick the name out of a hat. These
20:17
voters in particular said, I actually know his policies,
20:19
I've watched talks about him, and he
20:21
is someone that I want to vote for instead of Trump
20:23
or Biden. So take a listen to a little bit more of
20:25
what they said about Trump and Biden. Let's
20:28
go back to President Biden. What, if
20:30
anything, do you dislike about him? He
20:33
lost my trust with the Hunter
20:35
Biden situation. I don't like the
20:38
student loan forgiveness. That feels like
20:40
he's just trying to buy votes. Let's go
20:42
back to former President Trump. What, if anything,
20:44
do you dislike about him? I think he's
20:46
very selfish and egotistical. I
20:49
would have to say that I lost a lot
20:52
of respect for him over
20:56
the January
20:58
6th scenario. And
21:00
coming from Georgia and the way that he bullied
21:07
people in our state for
21:09
the outcome of the election. What's
21:12
attractive to you about RFK Jr.? Something
21:16
different. He just seems like he stands
21:18
for change. Seeing
21:21
what Trump can do, we've
21:23
seen what Biden can do. The
21:25
idea of something new. Is
21:28
it more of a vote for Kennedy
21:31
because you like him? Or
21:34
if it's more of a protest vote against
21:36
both Biden and Trump? Right. In
21:39
my case, I would say it's proactive. Some
21:41
things concern me, but in a lot of ways, I
21:45
support what he claims to stand for.
21:50
It's a combination of both. I
21:52
feel like if there were other better candidates
21:55
out there, then I probably wouldn't give
21:57
him. as
22:00
much as attention as
22:02
he's getting right now. So
22:05
there you have it. We spent the night with these
22:07
people who are just really, really not looking forward to
22:09
this rematch. And I think in particular, it reminded me
22:11
of the fact that over the last two elections, people
22:13
felt like they were already feeling like they were picking
22:15
the lesser of two evils when it comes to this
22:17
group. And that's their language, meaning that maybe some of
22:19
these people voted for Hillary Clinton because they just didn't
22:21
like Donald Trump, but they didn't really like Hillary Clinton.
22:23
And then in 2020, they went for Biden or
22:26
they went for Trump because they didn't like the other person and
22:28
now they're fed up. They're like,
22:30
I'm not doing this again. I want to pick the person that
22:32
I'm actually excited about. So even if he doesn't have a chance
22:35
to win, RFK Jr. is the person I'm going for.
22:37
Wow. Well, Chuck, it's interesting to
22:39
see how this is going to play out on the
22:41
debate stage tomorrow night. And you've kind of warned the
22:43
candidates in this column we read from earlier that coming
22:46
out aggressively may not be the tactic
22:48
that will resonate with voters. Why do you think- Well,
22:50
look, I think because they're
22:52
already predisposed not to like them. So
22:55
if you're suddenly unlikable, in
22:57
order to do, right, the Biden folks
22:59
would love to see unhinged Trump. Trump's
23:02
folks would love to see sort of lost
23:05
Biden. I don't know how you want to describe it,
23:07
but it looks like he's not in the moment. But
23:10
in order to get that moment to happen, you've got
23:13
to sort of poke or prod or
23:15
bait them and
23:17
it could backfire. And I actually
23:19
think that when you have,
23:21
if you actually step back a minute here, anytime I've
23:24
seen a lot of what I would call first debates
23:27
end up being, oh, that was less contentious than
23:30
I expected. The first debates, usually everybody's pretty
23:32
aware that you're making a first impression. And
23:34
while these guys have already made first, second,
23:36
third and fourth impressions, they're negative.
23:39
They both have very high negatives. So
23:42
the conventional political advice to both of
23:44
them is, hey, you're going in with
23:46
high negatives. You need to
23:48
debunk the stereotype against you.
23:51
Then, you know, hey, take advantage if there's
23:54
a moment, but I
23:56
have a feeling that they're both going to
23:58
be, and shoot the Biden. that
36:00
would be a no to moving back to Washington. Whereas,
36:02
you know, I did get to spend 10 years as a
36:04
member of Congress and certainly enjoyed that time I spent
36:06
here. And then finally, obviously there's a lot
36:08
of intrigue around who the former president's gonna pick
36:10
as his running mate. The Veep Stakes
36:13
is hot and heavy right now. Is there a
36:15
particular candidate that you think would help or hurt
36:17
the former president? And how do you think Democrats
36:19
should run against, I mean, these are the three
36:21
front runners that we're showing now, Governor Burgum, who
36:23
I'm sure you know as a governor, and JD
36:26
Vance and Marco Rubio. How do you think Democrats
36:28
should approach the Veep Stakes? Well, certainly Donald Trump
36:30
has not confided in me, who's planning
36:32
to choose. But I think the big
36:34
focus is always on the number one, right? Certainly
36:37
it's about the presidential candidate, whoever he
36:39
picks is going to have to conform
36:41
their agenda to his agenda. And
36:44
I think there's plenty of ways to blow holes in that,
36:46
whether it's the economist projections that
36:48
show how his agenda with tariffs would
36:51
increase inflation and cause for American consumers.
36:53
No matter what the history of these different
36:55
candidates in supporting different policies
36:57
are, they're going to get on
37:00
board if they're selected to be his vice president.
37:02
All right, well, there's going to be a lot
37:04
to talk about over the next couple of months.
37:06
Governor, I'm disappointed you don't want to move back
37:08
to Washington anytime soon, but maybe we'll see you
37:10
back here in the near future. Thank you so
37:12
much for being here. We appreciate it. A pleasure.
37:14
All right. And after the break, the fallout from
37:16
last night's bruising loss for House Progressive Jamal Bowman,
37:18
what the results mean for Congress, the Democratic Party,
37:20
and the politics of the Middle East. That's next.
37:22
You're watching Meet the Press now. Welcome
37:26
back. If
37:34
it is Wednesday, voters voted yesterday,
37:36
and we do have some election
37:38
results to dive into. In Colorado,
37:40
the MAGA-aligned Republican Congresswoman, Lauren Boebert,
37:42
won her primary after switching districts,
37:44
winning the nomination in Colorado's fourth
37:47
district, which was represented by Congressman
37:49
Ken Buck, who resigned earlier this
37:51
year. And in New York,
37:53
progressive Congressman and a member of the
37:55
so-called squad, Jamal Bowman, was defeated by
37:58
a more centrist challenger in Georgia. Want
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