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and fulfilling life. Let's go. Alright,
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welcome to episode 595. Hello
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my friend. Welcome to a fresh new
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episode of New Mindset Who This. As always,
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thank you so much for listening. Thank you
2:05
for supporting me and today I want
2:07
to talk about what perhaps we all
2:09
need in some way. Not
2:11
necessarily in the most common way, which is
2:14
healing from a breakup, but perhaps in a
2:16
smaller way in regard to someone who hurt
2:18
you, a mistake you made in the past,
2:20
something your parents or family did
2:22
to you, something in your career or at
2:24
your job with a coworker or a friend,
2:27
you name it. And that thing
2:29
of course is closure. The thing
2:31
we all want in order to move forward. I
2:33
just want closure so I can move on with
2:35
my life. And that's what I want to
2:37
talk about today. I heard
2:40
my friend Jillian Turecki say this.
2:43
She's a fellow Miami resident and she said
2:45
this the other day. She said closure
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is what happens when you move on. You
2:50
don't need closure to move on. Closure
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is what happens when you move on.
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Closure is the outcome of moving on. And
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that's such a simple sentence, right? But it's
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literally the issue we have in our lives
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when we want to move on, when we
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want closure is we have like an order
3:07
of operations issue here. And
3:09
that's what I think so many of us miss. We
3:12
want closure so we can move on. But
3:14
closure is what happens when we decide to
3:16
move on. We have it reversed and we
3:18
end up spinning our wheels as a result
3:21
because of this. We end up staying in place because
3:23
we're like, I need closure, then I can move on.
3:25
And so this is an episode to help
3:28
you move on because that is what
3:30
gives you closure. And again, I'm not
3:32
talking about only moving on from a breakup.
3:34
I think that's the most obvious example we
3:36
could think of, but I'm talking about moving
3:38
on from anything in your past, recent
3:41
or far away that still holds
3:43
you in some way and
3:46
from which you want closure. I'm talking
3:48
about closure from perhaps that resentment you
3:50
still feel towards your old boss who
3:52
chose your coworker over you for a
3:55
promotion. You don't work there anymore, but
3:57
you still feel that I'm talking about
3:59
closure. from a former friendship with
4:01
someone who just out of the blue
4:03
stopped reaching out to you, stopped responding
4:05
to you and you still hold that
4:07
what the heck happened in your heart.
4:09
I'm talking about closure for
4:12
you, closure from a mistake you made
4:14
in your past that you still blame
4:16
yourself full stop for and you still
4:18
feel that guilt and that blame about
4:21
you when you look yourself in
4:23
the mirror. Right? Closure. Closure from
4:25
past regret, from past blame or
4:27
confusion or frustration or relationship or
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whatever. Closure is not
4:31
just a topic for romantic
4:33
relationships ending. It's also between
4:35
you and you. And
4:38
it's that point I think also that
4:40
keeps us trapped in thinking closure sets us
4:42
free when it's when in the reality it's
4:45
that you set yourself free and
4:47
that gives you closure because closure
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is always always always about you.
4:53
But we don't make it about us. We always
4:55
make it about other people. The
4:57
moment we think that closure
4:59
is about someone else, the moment we
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think it's about confronting them, getting them
5:04
to own up to the way they
5:06
hurt you or getting them to agree
5:08
with you, getting them to explain themselves,
5:10
getting them to explain why, getting
5:13
them to ask for forgiveness, the moment you do that,
5:15
whatever it is, that moment that
5:17
your focus is on them, you're giving
5:19
them power and you're taking it away
5:21
from you. When you rely
5:23
on someone else for your closure,
5:25
you're essentially waiting on permission to
5:27
move on, which prevents
5:29
you from doing so. The very thing that
5:31
we've decided here is actually what
5:33
gives you closure. Moving on is what gives
5:36
you closure. Closure doesn't help you move on.
5:38
It's the other way around. It's
5:40
like I wrote this quote down I saw on Instagram
5:42
the other day. It's one of those viral ones. It
5:44
says, imagine being bit by a
5:46
snake and instead of trying to help yourself
5:49
heal and recover from the poison, you try
5:51
to catch the snake to find out the
5:53
reason it bit you and to
5:55
prove to it that you didn't deserve that. It's
5:58
kind of such an eye-opening. quote, but
6:01
that is how we go about closure.
6:04
And obviously great analogy, but it shows
6:06
how backwards we have it. So let's
6:08
start there. Let's agree what
6:10
does not give you closure. Let's start right there.
6:13
Someone acknowledging the way they hurt you. That
6:15
does not give you closure. Someone telling you why they
6:18
hurt you. That does not give you closure. Getting
6:20
someone to agree that you deserve better. That
6:22
does not give you closure. None of that
6:25
does. Someone owning up, someone taking responsibility, someone
6:27
agreeing with you, someone giving you clarity or
6:29
insight into why. That does not
6:31
give you closure. That is you
6:33
asking them for permission to move on.
6:37
And while that certainly will feel a bit
6:39
vindicating, of course, and a little bit like
6:41
justice, someone realizing that they messed up and
6:43
that they're a bad person, whatever, I can't
6:45
argue with that. It does feel good. It
6:48
doesn't fix anything. If someone
6:50
broke you in a way, them
6:52
acknowledging it does not fix it. It doesn't
6:55
change the facts. It just detracts from your
6:57
energy. It distracts you. But
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again, that's how we're wired, I think.
7:02
Don't you agree? We're so
7:04
naturally focused on other
7:07
people, the other person, the other person
7:09
in this two person dance
7:11
when it comes to closure. We want to
7:13
know why from their point of view. Why
7:15
would this person do this to me? Why,
7:17
why, why? We want to know why. And
7:21
we also want them to say it. And
7:23
again, I think that's fair human instinct, I
7:25
suppose. I suppose that's
7:28
fine. But we need
7:30
to become resolute in acknowledging that
7:32
that focus distracts us from what
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I think is the key to moving on
7:37
and giving yourself closure, which is acceptance. Acceptance
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is closure, truly. Closure
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isn't about getting answers from someone else.
7:45
It's about accepting that some questions will
7:48
go unanswered for quite some time. That
7:51
acknowledgement is what allows you then to say, okay,
7:54
okay, I'm going to step forward. That
7:56
is what allows you to step forward into your next
7:59
chapter, acknowledging answer questions. That is
8:01
what allows you to do that acceptance. True
8:04
closure is an inside job.
8:06
It really is. It's deciding you don't
8:08
need the why to begin writing your
8:11
what's next, your next chapter. You don't
8:13
need it. And once you
8:15
make that decision, moving on is so much
8:17
easier. It starts with acceptance. Replace
8:20
why with acceptance.
8:22
The why will come with age and with time
8:24
and with wisdom, but you don't
8:27
need it right now to start the process of
8:29
moving on. You don't need it
8:31
to start to move on. And then eventually
8:33
you'll look back and you'll realize you
8:35
didn't find closure in the form
8:37
of an apology or some explanation
8:40
from someone you created for yourself
8:42
in deciding that the what of
8:45
that previous relationship is now
8:47
what you deserve. And it's that simple. Some
8:50
analogies I wrote here drive this home. Waiting
8:53
for someone else to give you closure
8:55
is like waiting for a train at
8:57
an abandoned train station. You'll get far
8:59
quicker if you start walking on your own.
9:02
Closure is like closing a book without needing to
9:04
read the last page. If you read a lot
9:06
of books, right, the story kind of ends before
9:08
the final chapter or the final paragraph. And
9:11
that's okay. You're not missing anything. Right? That
9:13
is the acceptance I'm talking about here. We're
9:15
not labeling it. We don't even need to
9:17
need to use the word closure here. But
9:20
all we're saying is we don't need to know why right now. That
9:22
is acceptance. But to
9:25
my point earlier, like I get it, it's
9:27
human nature to want clarity. We
9:29
kind of see clarity as this like
9:31
springboard from which we can step off
9:33
and propel us forward with higher standards
9:35
and boundaries. And I'll never look back.
9:38
That's kind of how we see closure.
9:40
We think it's this thing that will
9:42
help make sense of senseless things. And
9:44
it will be the spark for reinvention.
9:47
But as with so
9:49
much of our mindfulness practice here on
9:52
the podcast, with age
9:54
and with awareness and with patience, we
9:56
can come to realize that true healing,
9:59
true closure. It comes from
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letting go. It does not come from
10:03
understanding. It took me a long
10:05
time to realize this. True closure comes from
10:07
letting go, not from understanding. True
10:10
closure comes from, it starts
10:12
with, at least, acceptance. It
10:15
starts with acceptance. Not hearing why, not
10:17
being on the same page, not accepting
10:19
an apology. It starts with acceptance. So
10:22
this is just a quick episode to encourage you. Whatever
10:26
closure you're circling in your life that you want,
10:29
give yourself permission to move
10:31
forward without the why. The
10:34
road to healing, the road to closure,
10:36
it starts with stepping forward, not
10:39
with the answers in hand
10:41
to old questions. Closure
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isn't like the moment you understand why
10:45
something happened and you're like, aha, I
10:47
have closure. Closure is
10:49
what happens in the moment you accept that
10:52
it happened and you choose to step forward
10:54
anyway. That's you deciding that
10:56
you're not going to wait for someone to fix what
10:58
they broke. Instead, you're just going
11:00
to build something new yourself. That's the real
11:02
essence of moving forward. And thus, that is
11:05
closure. So really, when I think of
11:07
closure, I do think of a spark of sorts. I
11:09
think of a catalyst. I think of
11:11
energy that you give yourself. That's
11:13
you getting up, not sitting back, not
11:16
thinking and thinking and thinking. I consider
11:18
closure to be an act. I
11:20
think a lot of time we think of closure as like
11:23
emotional healing. And
11:25
sure, of course, it's partly that,
11:28
but for most of the most part, I think
11:30
of it as a bold step forward action verbs.
11:32
It's not just sitting in
11:34
your fields and continuing to examine them.
11:37
That's the start, of course. But at
11:39
some point, it has to be about strength
11:41
and moving forward. It's
11:43
not about waiting around for someone to tell you
11:45
why they hurt you. That won't
11:47
fix you. You don't need to hear why someone decided
11:49
you weren't right for them or good enough for them.
11:52
That won't fix you. All that does is
11:54
shift the focus from where it needs to be
11:56
you back to them. So
11:59
the catalyst. list here specifically is
12:01
walking away from why, why, why,
12:03
why, why? And shifting it
12:06
to what? Away from
12:08
why they hurt you and
12:10
to what you actually deserve, which
12:13
even if you struggle to articulate that I can
12:15
tell you that it will pretty much always be
12:17
the opposite of what they did. So
12:19
start there, tell yourself a story of
12:21
what you deserve instead of asking yourself
12:23
why they hurt you, why would they
12:25
do this and so on. Just start
12:28
there, start with what? Start with what
12:30
you deserve. One of
12:32
these two things focuses on
12:34
the future, the other on the past.
12:37
One keeps you in their orbit, kind of
12:39
tied down by their gravity. The
12:41
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12:43
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14:43
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14:45
that they give you. It's about the peace
14:47
you create for yourself to keep you moving
14:49
forward. It's not about the
14:51
truth they give you. It's about the peace you create.
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And that starts with the story. So, what
14:56
is the story? Replace why
14:58
with what? Answer
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that question for yourself. Put yourself in a
15:03
headspace of moving forward, not staying in place.
15:05
Create a story that says, that doesn't say why,
15:08
it says what now. Right?
15:11
What now? And perhaps just by nudging yourself
15:13
to think forward, to think about what you
15:15
deserve and what you want and what now,
15:18
what are we going to do now? You
15:21
realize that the pain of staying
15:23
stuck, the pain of waiting and
15:25
wanting clarity, that pain is
15:28
so much greater than the pain of letting
15:30
go, of acceptance. And perhaps
15:32
that shows you that this idea of
15:34
closure is a choice. It's
15:36
a decision. It's an affirmation that you and only
15:39
you can make. It's like choosing
15:41
to say, I'm going to heal before
15:44
you even know what medicine you need to take. That
15:47
I think is the real trick to closure. It's not
15:49
about waiting until everything makes sense. Closure
15:52
isn't finding a, you know, a neatly
15:54
tied up story ending. It's
15:56
about creating your own beginning. And
15:58
eventually that ending becomes clear. But it's
16:01
about it's like reversing the order of operations
16:03
here You're thinking about the beginning before you
16:05
have a clear sense of the ending. It's
16:07
about kick-starting that a catalyst It's a
16:09
spark. It's about focusing on the steps
16:11
that you can take right now Rather
16:15
than the steps that were taken against you
16:17
It's they're just acknowledging so often that we
16:19
hold on to this need for closure Because
16:22
we think it's the ticket to our future right
16:24
I need closure then I can move on but
16:26
really it's just like a it's a Baggage it's
16:29
a suitcase of our past that we're carrying
16:31
around with us Throughout
16:33
that for an analogy right we could put
16:35
that down and step forward And I
16:38
think when you see yourself as your
16:40
own catalyst for closure not them nothing
16:42
they can offer know why Instead
16:45
of them and instead of why and instead
16:47
of clarity you then become your own author
16:49
and you can write whatever you want You
16:52
can write whatever you want instead of waiting for someone
16:54
else to provide you with the closure you seek or
16:56
the ending to the previous Chapter you start
16:59
writing the next chapter without them.
17:02
This is a shift in perspective, and I think it's really
17:04
powerful Because it means you Specifically
17:07
you you stop letting past hurt
17:09
define your present and dictate your
17:11
future you decide that there's no
17:14
apology no explanation None
17:16
of that is needed none of that is necessary for
17:18
you to proceed with your life That's
17:21
freedom. You're not held down by anything.
17:23
It's empowerment. It's choosing to liberate yourself
17:25
from Waiting and
17:27
instead you start walking toward a future
17:29
that you decide is what you deserve
17:32
The the journey to true closure of course
17:34
can take a long long time For
17:37
you can look back at that chapter and say here's how
17:39
it ended and here's why it ended But
17:41
regardless the process of doing that it
17:44
involves taking that first step forward It
17:47
certainly involves embracing your feelings, but
17:49
it involves embracing them without allowing them to
17:51
overwhelm you You acknowledge the
17:53
pain you learn from it, and
17:56
you gently let it go this does not
17:58
mean you're forgetting it It doesn't mean you're protected it
18:00
never happened, none of that. It
18:02
simply means viewing your past with compassion,
18:05
but deciding to move forward.
18:09
And I think when you seek closure through others,
18:11
as so many of us do, you're giving away
18:14
all of that power. All the power
18:16
we're reviewing here. True
18:18
healing, true empowerment really comes
18:20
when you reclaim yourself by
18:22
finding and creating closure on
18:24
your own terms. So that's the episode
18:26
here. You're focusing less on
18:29
them, less on the question of
18:31
why something happened, and more on
18:33
what you can do next. What
18:36
strengths have you discovered within yourself? Closure
18:38
is not about waiting for someone else
18:40
to give you your peace, it's about
18:42
finding and creating peace in
18:44
the understanding that sometimes the
18:47
only resolution that matters is the one you
18:49
find within yourself. So
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