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2024 NBA Free Agency Special | Live Reactions To EVERY Signing, Trade, Rumor & Slop

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2024 NBA Free Agency Special | Live Reactions To EVERY Signing, Trade, Rumor & Slop

2024 NBA Free Agency Special | Live Reactions To EVERY Signing, Trade, Rumor & Slop

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3:38

There he is. And our guy, Ash, is

3:40

also in the factory helping us keep track

3:42

of everything. What's up, Ash? How

3:45

y'all doing? We're great. Hey, you

3:47

see something, you say something. Yes sir.

3:50

Okay. It's like a

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unattended bag in an airport. You

3:55

see something, say something. Yeah. Ash will

3:57

be helping us out here as we build up to the

3:59

six o'clock. Eastern

4:01

launch of NBA free agency.

4:03

That's when teams can begin

4:06

negotiating at 6 p.m.

4:08

Eastern tonight. They haven't spoken yet.

4:10

No, no. There's been plenty

4:13

of news here in the lead up. LeBron

4:15

intends to opt out of his $51.4 million player

4:19

option for next season, though he's

4:21

expected to return to LA on a new deal.

4:23

The Warriors are preparing to lose Clay Thompson. We'll

4:26

get into that. But let's start with

4:28

Paul George. Paul George, a hot

4:30

name today. He has opted out of the

4:32

final year of his contract with the Clippers,

4:35

and he will become an unrestricted free agent.

4:37

He plans to set up meetings with the

4:39

Philadelphia 76ers, the Orlando

4:41

Magic, and the Clippers tonight,

4:45

and I guess tomorrow, maybe a little Monday

4:47

meeting. Who's getting the Monday meeting? Who's

4:49

sloppy seconds or thirds even? I mean, okay,

4:51

so we've heard of some reports that perhaps

4:53

Paul George is gonna be inking a deal

4:56

with the Philadelphia 76ers. So

4:58

maybe the Clippers is the last one to let

5:00

them down. Say goodbye one last time. I'll see

5:02

you on the East Coast. My family can move

5:04

there. Yeah, we did

5:06

have a Bleacher Reports. Chris Haines

5:08

tweeting about an hour ago that

5:11

there's growing optimism. The 76ers will

5:13

land Paul George in free agency.

5:16

You like the fit, Taz? If that does happen and

5:18

Paul George does leave LA, you like him in Philly?

5:20

It sure feels like Paul George is leaving. Do I

5:22

have inside information? Oh, no. No, I

5:24

do not. But after Kawhi Leonard

5:26

got that extension in January, nothing

5:29

has happened for Paul George who was his,

5:32

you know, who was co-pilot there. It was supposed to be a

5:34

one-two, he didn't get one. So it sure feels like, especially, you

5:37

know, this is the fun time to just

5:39

be skeptical of everything. On his podcast recently,

5:41

he gave lots of love to Pelle Bon

5:43

Caro. Lots of it. And so

5:45

he will be meeting with

5:47

Philly for sure and in Orlando, and I

5:50

guess he'll be meeting with Steve Ballmer, I mean,

5:52

I guess. I don't know, maybe they'll talk about

5:54

toilets in the new Intuit Dome. Who knows, but

5:56

he's not going back. Sorry, I never got a

5:58

chance to flush one. He's going back because

6:01

of the hang up on this fourth year right

6:03

they offered kawaii the extension for three years Seems

6:06

like they were sort of presenting Paul George similar

6:08

sort of framework But he's like I want that

6:10

fourth year Give me that fourth year which he

6:12

can sign with another team with cap space like

6:14

Philadelphia a four year 212 million

6:16

dollar contract that could happen at six o'clock

6:18

here. Yeah, definitely could right yeah, then that's

6:20

what it's about It's about the dollar dollar

6:22

bills. I think so with Paul George at

6:24

34 He's gonna get

6:26

four years from somebody and It

6:29

sure feels like Philly right now But

6:31

it feels like if you look back

6:33

at the indie days the okc days and now

6:35

the clipper days He's basically told all three teams

6:37

at some point. I'm retiring here During

6:43

this time when you're just refreshing every everything

6:45

on Twitter I saw I saw these

6:47

quotes when he was an indie my goal is to win

6:49

one here I never want to leave India he demanded a

6:51

trade a couple months later. Okay, see I'm

6:54

here to stay We can bring this thing home. Okay.

6:56

Yeah, obviously that did not happen now. He wanted to

6:58

go to the LA Which

7:00

then he said this is where my heart is. I want

7:02

to retire a clipper So

7:04

he's leaving You

7:10

you believe this Paul George is gonna go to Philly

7:12

and let's talk about the fit a little bit Do

7:14

you like it? I mean he'd be a third option

7:16

an expensive third option, but an expensive third option But

7:18

the great thing with Paul George is sometimes he can

7:21

be a first option for you Sometimes he can be

7:23

a second option for you And when and beat is

7:25

cooking when maxi is cooking he can be the third

7:27

option for you That's the awesome thing about Paul George

7:29

is he's such a plug-and-play guy. He can play off

7:32

the ball He can play with the ball. He shoots

7:34

threes. He plays defense if he's not

7:36

necessarily the lockdown guy He was right way

7:38

back in the indie days. He's still able

7:40

to guard his position on both sides So

7:42

yeah, of course he fits and he's the

7:44

biggest free agent out there. They're on a

7:46

ton of like high

7:49

priced Notable elite role players,

7:51

you know, like KCP is the guy that everybody

7:53

is chasing after from a role player perspective But

7:55

there aren't a lot of those guys for the

7:57

Sixers to be able to split up their whatever

8:00

$60 million in cap. So for them,

8:02

it might be a better move actually to spend the

8:04

majority of it on Paul George, bring back the good

8:06

guys that you have on your team like Batoom

8:09

probably will be coming back. I assume Melton

8:11

will probably come back as well. I think

8:14

that's smarter than trying to split it amongst

8:17

these role players who aren't really gonna raise

8:19

your ceiling because the Knicks got better. But

8:22

I think that this makes the 76ers at least

8:24

on par with the Knicks still behind the Celtics

8:26

though. And a lot of 76ers fans are like,

8:28

anybody's better than Tobias Harris. Well, yeah. That

8:31

as well. Massive up there. And he is still good. But

8:33

yeah, I think he's dropped off. Paul George has a little

8:35

bit defensively. Maybe he can sort of find that again and

8:37

lock in on that end. But yeah, they have $61.3 million

8:40

in cap space, Philadelphia

8:42

does. You've got the Pistons as one of these

8:44

teams with a lot of cap space as well.

8:46

They're over 50 million. And then the Magic have

8:48

basically cleared the perfect number, really 50 million to

8:51

maybe make a play at Paul George. Sort

8:54

of cool they're even in the conversation. I

8:56

don't think they'll land him. I think he would ultimately

8:58

pick Philly. But that's good for this team

9:01

that obviously not too long ago was one

9:03

of the worst in the league. And they're

9:05

building on something here. Do you think it's

9:07

good to be used for leverage? I mean, I

9:10

remember when people were saying the same about the

9:12

Suns getting a meeting with LaMarcus Aldridge. True, true.

9:16

Look, it's good to get a meeting. Yeah, it is. It

9:18

is. Because you're taking at least somewhat seriously. Even

9:21

considering, I will use some of my

9:23

time, my precious time to come

9:26

and meet with you or you'll come meet me with me. I

9:28

guess the positive for an Orlando or like

9:30

in Indiana when we talk about Pascal Siakam

9:32

is that they're part of the

9:34

conversation. That's what it is about. And

9:37

that's why Paul George jumped into this situation

9:40

here to try and get as much money as

9:42

possible. I mean, this is what it's all about

9:44

for him. So this will be his last

9:46

big payday. Yeah. And he's going to keep Embiid

9:49

there for several years. I think this sort of

9:51

locks in Embiid into Philadelphia for

9:53

more years. Just because Miami just signed Bayman

9:55

by a gang owner. So

9:58

I don't know. They're going to, this is a... The

10:00

best tube man that they've had since Jimmy Butler

10:02

has been several years So

10:05

this is a good shot for them. Oh interesting. So

10:07

you think if Paul George goes to Philly? Let's say

10:09

signs. Yeah at six or whatever in the coming days

10:12

You think of the team and bead one Paul George to

10:14

ahead of maxi To

10:18

a to be between those two guys Maxi

10:20

obviously took a jump. Yes could continue to get

10:23

better. They're co they're co-co pilots

10:31

Your brother's a pilot how many seats are

10:33

up there we got Okay,

10:36

there's only two yeah, too. Well to

10:38

the old school was two plus a navigator,

10:40

right? Everybody's

10:46

jobs. Well, this is an old this

10:48

is an old-school airplane Okay,

10:50

Ash is coming into the cockpit. You got

10:52

something to say what you got from shams

10:56

Golden State is waving Chris Paul. Okay, and he

10:58

will become a free agent He's

11:01

waved Wow Okay, so they don't

11:03

want to guarantee that money Nope, obviously and

11:05

they trade for it couldn't find a trade

11:07

for ya at 30 mil and we learned

11:10

today That you know from

11:12

reputable sources that there was potentially a Paul

11:14

George to the Warriors deal the

11:16

framework was there and I

11:18

believe it was gonna be for like a Wiggins

11:20

or Chris Paul obviously that contract maybe one of

11:22

the young guys a kamigah or a Moody maybe

11:25

even a first-round pick from the Warriors to the

11:27

clips for Paul George and that was shot

11:29

down Not happening why because

11:31

the Warriors don't want to give up all that stuff for

11:33

Paul George I think it was more from the other side

11:35

of things I'm not sure the Clippers were

11:38

all that eager to help obviously a state

11:40

rifle there though You could lose them for

11:42

it. Absolutely. Not yeah is the issue, but

11:44

that was being kicked around Yeah, and the

11:46

opt-out was when it was over. Yes, right

11:49

for The

11:51

Warriors. So yeah, I guess um, we

11:53

also you know, we're gonna get into it in a little bit

11:55

here The Warriors are saying that they're gonna probably be losing out

11:57

on clay Thompson It's probably gonna go elsewhere because they They

12:00

wanted to address other things before

12:02

coming to Clay's free agency. One of those things seemed

12:04

like it was going to be Paul George, but

12:07

we heard earlier today that after he opted out

12:09

of his contract that they were going to be

12:11

bowing out basically of the Paul George sweepstakes, the

12:14

Warriors aren't going to be good next year. They're

12:16

going to have Chris Paul, or I mean Steph Curry. They're

12:19

going to have Draymond Green will still be there. Kaminga,

12:21

third leading scorer probably. The Gensy. Those

12:24

guys are like year four and year two. This

12:28

might be another play in appearance for a Golden State.

12:30

They wanted to get better via trade. That's for sure. They

12:32

pushed back this Chris Paul have to approve

12:35

it by two days and the day is

12:37

up now. They

12:39

talked about Andrew Wiggins

12:41

playing for Canada this summer

12:44

and they talked about it. I assume with

12:46

his agent, they couldn't demand that he doesn't

12:48

play with Canada, but they recommended it and

12:50

he's not. That was

12:52

definitely a part of it. Maybe Wiggins can go now. I

12:55

don't know. This trade fell through. Good point.

12:58

Go ahead, Wiggins. You're fine. Because there

13:00

was concern obviously you go to training camp, you

13:02

could get injured. That obviously tanks your already pretty

13:04

rough trade value as it is. We

13:07

don't want you doing that. Obviously a lot of Canadian

13:09

basketball fans were pretty upset with this. Like, hey, you

13:11

can't do that. Yeah, trade brings up a good point.

13:14

It's Steph, it's

13:16

now Wiggins and Draymond Green as your top

13:19

three. Beyond that, because

13:21

we don't know what's going on with clay.

13:23

Beyond that, it's a lot of role

13:26

players. Obviously Kuminga has

13:29

a lot of potential. But beyond that, it's Gary

13:31

Payton the second and guys like that. Yeah, let's

13:34

get into the clay of it all. It

13:37

feels like there's like eight reports that he's gone. It's

13:39

absolutely done that he is going to believe.

13:41

We don't know where the

13:43

Lakers have been thrown out there. It could be

13:45

the Sixers as maybe a backup if Paul George

13:47

doesn't come to fruition. Obviously

13:50

the magic have been a team he's been sort of linked to

13:52

for a while. We went over it, they got the cap space,

13:54

they could make a move. Sort

13:57

of weird. It's sort of ending like this. I

14:00

sort of hated him being on him. I'm not really, of course,

14:02

not a Warriors fan, but it's like part

14:04

of that dynasty. And it's like, feels like

14:06

it's over and he will be going somewhere

14:08

because maybe he just feels

14:10

disrespected. The role obviously

14:13

was coming off the bench at times. Not that he

14:15

was good either. I mean, he struggled, but what do

14:17

you think about the Clay Thompson leaving the Warriors here?

14:19

It seems like it's gonna be about respect quite

14:21

honestly, because it seemed like last season, Clay was pretty

14:24

upset with the way things were going. He got benched

14:26

at one point, came into the starting lineup again

14:28

at one point, just wasn't quite the same player he

14:31

was. They paid a whole bunch of guys before

14:33

they got to Clay Thompson, Jordan Poole, Andrew

14:35

Wiggins, Draymond Green, all those guys got contracts

14:38

before Clay did. And now you look at the landscape

14:41

of where he's gonna go, probably not gonna be Philadelphia

14:43

since they're gonna spend the majority of their money on

14:46

Paul George. The rumors have been the

14:48

Lakers and the Dallas Mavericks have been, I think

14:50

the hottest ones today. And he's not gonna be

14:52

getting much more than the two for 48 that

14:55

he turned down before the season, right? Like

14:57

if he goes to the Lakers, he's playing for $13 million a year. He

15:00

could be taking a significant 50% pay cut, basically

15:03

on what the Warriors were gonna offer. So then at

15:05

that point, it's not even about dollars, it's about, I

15:08

was one of the legends here and he didn't

15:10

treat me like a legend, but Clay has not

15:12

been the same player as he was. And he

15:15

can probably more easily be the player

15:17

he needs to be at this point in his career somewhere away from

15:19

Golden State. And

15:21

the rumor was that he received an offer last summer

15:23

for an extension for two for 48, but

15:26

I guess that wasn't enough, because

15:29

I guess he wanted a long-term just to sort

15:31

of match up with others, what others were getting

15:33

in Draymond and Steph Curry. I

15:35

always think, does he wanna play

15:38

in a situation like Orlando where he would be perfect? They

15:40

need a guy at the

15:42

guard spot who can fire. But

15:45

he loves to be on a boat every day. You

15:47

know, Orlando is kind of landlocked. What

15:50

I watched yesterday was Clay Thompson

15:52

on his boat. Oh

15:54

man, what a beautiful day. He just talks

15:56

about how beautiful the day is, I

15:58

thought that was from yesterday. That's all you can

16:01

do on a boat. Yeah. It's really nice out

16:03

here. It's nice out here. It's either the fish

16:05

are biting or, man, it's nice out here. Yeah.

16:07

Yeah, that's really nice. And then he shows the other side. Oh,

16:09

look at that island. The island didn't look that great, I got

16:12

to be honest. But anyways, I thought that was from yesterday. I

16:14

thought he was kind of saying goodbye to Golden State, but going

16:16

through social media looks like it was an oldie. I

16:20

don't know why I need to report that,

16:22

but the report is Clay Thompson. It sure

16:24

feels like he's leaving. Yeah. But

16:26

as I said, those names just now, Trey

16:29

was going through as well. It's Dre, it's Steph.

16:32

There's not a lot of talent unless they

16:34

go get somebody else. And so that's the

16:37

scary part for the Warriors. Zach Levine, baby.

16:40

Zach Levine. That's being kicked around quite a bit,

16:42

like something the Warriors could try and do, at

16:45

least, to maybe get him. I mean, it's like,

16:48

if you still believe this is Stephanie, he's still in his

16:50

prime, and you have a chance if you have him, but

16:52

you need talent around him, it's like, it starts to get

16:54

down. OK, well, you can't get Paul George, or that's not

16:56

happening. So who's left? I mean, it's like Brandon Ingram, maybe.

16:58

Probably have to send out a bunch of draft capital to do

17:00

that, so you mortgage your future. Zach

17:02

Levine, you might get a pick back for Zach

17:04

Levine, but obviously, his contract and how he would

17:07

fit. I think Zach Levine would actually make more

17:09

sense if they had to pick between those two

17:11

guys, just how they currently are

17:13

constructed. But yeah, it's weird. Clay, it's

17:15

just going to be weird. I'm serious. That's going

17:17

to be a weird jersey swap to me. Him

17:19

in a Lakers uniform, him in a Magic uniform,

17:21

Mavericks uniform, that would be strange. The second best

17:23

guy often plays for a different team at the

17:25

end of a dynasty. You know?

17:28

Tony Parker did. Tim Duncan didn't.

17:30

Yeah. Michael Jordan never played for a different team

17:32

besides the Bulls, but how many teams has Scottie Pittman played for?

17:36

But it really is like a bad, bad look.

17:38

It's all about money. It's literally all about money.

17:40

The Warriors are kind of cheaping out on pay

17:42

and play, and they are cheaping out on using

17:44

their future picks and all these young guys they've

17:46

traded because they want to

17:48

protect their future going forward. But look at a team

17:50

like the Lakers. They don't care. The Bucks

17:53

have no future right now. The

17:56

Warriors have basically tried the two

17:58

timelines thing. It obviously didn't work. Bob

18:00

Myers decided to quit because it didn't work and now Mike

18:02

Dunleavy is kind of having to clean up the mess and

18:04

the mess Is breaking up the dynasty? Yeah, and I thought

18:06

how do they get back anywhere? It's

18:08

tough I feel like clay is gonna like take

18:10

a significant pay decrease and and go play for

18:13

the Lakers You know obviously family

18:15

ties a little bit there There's

18:17

a role for him and it

18:20

would be I'll be weird that like hey, man We

18:22

offered you way more money than this

18:24

but you are very dis you felt disrespected I guess and

18:26

want an opportunity and prove us wrong and stuff like that

18:28

If I had to pick right now, I do think he's gonna end up in a

18:31

Lakers uniform, which will be weird But

18:35

pretty fun when clay catches fire against the Warriors

18:37

in some game that we'll be watching on TNT

18:39

I'm sure playing game Eventually

18:42

that yes for sure these teams will

18:44

be battling anything else there on

18:46

clay Do you have a preference where you'd like to see him go Dallas? Orlando

18:51

LA some other team. Yeah be a part of

18:53

me is hey just play it out with Golden

18:55

State Although part of me is is

18:58

Orlando. They just needed somebody in the postseason

19:00

to really hit shots I mean really and

19:02

be comfortable taking them and have everything lined

19:04

up for that guy and Yes,

19:07

I know in in the playing game. He

19:10

was 0 for 10 and everybody ridiculed him

19:12

for being that But

19:16

he'll have that sort of same feeling that he had

19:18

when the good days were in Golden State where you

19:21

relied on with Orlando He's

19:23

supposed to be loved man Yeah,

19:26

it's like well, I mean different circumstances,

19:28

but like when Ray Allen left Boston

19:31

for Miami and there was like well, it's like felt

19:33

like there was like they were mad at us exactly

19:35

Yeah, and then they're mad at him for a decade.

19:38

Yeah, I know So

19:40

I don't know there's something there and I think Warriors fans

19:42

are probably conflicted a little bit Obviously, he's a legend. You

19:44

don't win a lot of these titles without him. You're not

19:46

even in half of them without him and So

19:49

there's that but then it's like well, come on, man

19:52

Well, you're gonna especially if it goes to like the

19:54

Lakers or something like that or even the Mavericks It's

19:56

like a team that's like really good or should be

19:58

good. That'd be a bad That'd be

20:00

tough. That'd be tough. I'd be conflicted if I was

20:02

warrior Sam I'd like to see him on okay see

20:04

or Dallas I think but it at that point he's

20:06

got to be willing to come off the bench and

20:08

that's gonna be a question Yeah, and it's similar to

20:10

very similar to Ray Allen I think leaving the Celtics

20:12

because when he went to Miami He

20:14

just became like our clutch three-point shooter our guy

20:16

who's waiting in the corner He wasn't a high

20:19

usage guy like he had been for

20:21

the Celtics and the Bucks and Sonics prior to that in

20:23

his career So he had to take a step back and

20:25

that's what clay Thompson is gonna have to do But couldn't

20:27

you see him hitting a monster shot in game six for

20:29

okc? Yeah Yeah, I'd rather

20:31

have him play for a competitive team like

20:33

the the Mavericks or the Thunder rather than

20:36

the Lakers or the Magic Okay Hey,

20:39

let's respect that magic fifth

20:41

place last year. They will have a better record than the

20:43

Lakers. I think Let's talk let's

20:45

talk about Lakers or anything else about clay because

20:47

we're getting I don't know about seven minutes away

20:49

from the official start Free agency

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20:56

sort of been busy here. Like

20:58

I said LeBron has opted out, so he's eyeing a new

21:00

deal with them They

21:02

also the Lakers came to an

21:05

agreement for year thirty two million dollar deal

21:07

with Max Christie So he

21:09

is going to stay that final year includes a

21:11

player option Daniel

21:13

Russell says he intends to opt in he's

21:15

staying with the Lakers Jackson Hayes exercised his

21:17

two point four million dollar play option He'll

21:19

return to the Lakers and Cam reddish exercised

21:21

his two point five million dollar player option

21:24

To return to the Lakers all these resignings bring

21:26

the Lakers roster to 15 players assuming they

21:28

keep LeBron So, you

21:31

know, they got like their roster. They would need to

21:33

consolidate guys in a trade to open up additional Russia

21:35

spots But anyway We

21:38

I will add that LeBron Reports say

21:41

hey, you know, I'm not signing

21:43

yet. Go get me some help be it

21:45

clay Thompson Jonas Valen Shunas, there

21:47

was one more name. I'm forgetting. It was

21:49

like a third guy. That was like a

21:51

possibility But point

21:53

is LeBron wants LeBron saying hey,

21:56

I'll maybe take James Harden James Harden that

21:58

hard it was but Shams reporting that James

22:00

James Harden signing a two year $70 million

22:02

contract to return to the Clippers. Okay. Shout

22:05

out to Mike Silverman, Troy Payne, and Brandon

22:07

Greer of Equity Sports. Oh Jesus. Shout

22:10

out to those guys. My least favorite thing

22:12

about free agency. We get the information from

22:14

one of the news breakers, and then we

22:17

got to show love to all the agents.

22:19

Mike, Troy, and Brandon. Thank you sir. Come

22:21

on down. But yeah,

22:23

I was honestly, I was surprised to see Jonas,

22:25

Val, and Jonas included in that list of players,

22:27

but the Lakers clearly need a

22:29

center next to Anthony Davis, and Val

22:32

and Jonas is kind of like the perfect guy. He

22:34

can play 30 minutes a night of

22:36

center, and then in the fourth quarter Anthony Davis can play

22:38

center to close out the games. I can see that working

22:40

there, but I find it hard to

22:42

believe that LeBron is taking a pay cut for

22:44

Jonas, Val and Jonas. Right, right. What

22:47

about Clay? Yeah, maybe. Yeah, okay. No offense, but

22:49

I find it hard to believe Jonas. I just

22:51

thought it was pay cut worthy. I think a

22:53

lot of people probably roll their eyes at LeBron

22:56

even considering taking a pay cut. Right. I

23:00

think he did it once way back in the heat days. The first year of Miami, that

23:02

you mean it was a different time, and

23:05

it wasn't much of a discount, right? It was literally-

23:07

No, it wasn't much. It wasn't much. In 2010, the

23:10

money was a lot different. Right. But

23:13

I would think that this would be the

23:15

year that LeBron would do something similar to

23:17

that, just because, I mean, these

23:19

are your last couple years. Why not benefit

23:22

your team that you're going to play with to

23:25

go get somebody else, but- I agree. Hey,

23:27

you scratched my back, I scratch yours. Yeah, it is. You

23:29

drafted my damn son. Yeah, all part of the deal.

23:31

That's pretty cool, thanks. I'll take

23:33

a little bit of a pay cut if you want

23:35

to try and help the team here and go get

23:37

one of these sort of at least, Marquees maybe a

23:39

stretch, but one of the more notable free agents that

23:41

we could possibly bring in. I'm with you.

23:44

Yeah, and that feels like it was part of the

23:46

deal, although now that they have

23:48

signed with 15 guys, until

23:50

LeBron signed, Yeah, it

23:53

would just be doing it to sign

23:55

somebody, as we just mentioned, as a

23:57

free agent. Although- DeRozan Sign and Trade.

30:00

like 250 million from the Raptors drafted a

30:02

year after in the number four spot, the

30:04

Bulls are getting their guy for 90 million

30:06

and they're getting about that much production as

30:08

well, comparatively. Patrick Williams is like a

30:11

fine starting wing. He makes wide open threes, he

30:14

doesn't take any other shots, he can guard his

30:16

guy one on one. Maybe he

30:18

can make a play every now and then, but he's

30:20

super young and the Bulls have seen a lot

30:22

of players go somewhere else and turn into somebody good,

30:24

like Lowry Markin and most notably, but

30:26

I'm even like, they had Luke Cornette. That guy can

30:28

hardly even get on the floor for the Bulls, suddenly

30:31

he's playing in the finals for the Celtics. Speaking of

30:33

Luke Cornette, he just signed a one year deal to

30:35

the, returning to the Celtics. Oh, Celtics

30:37

taking care of his moves. Oh, I was gonna

30:39

ask, who was gonna be the first official sort

30:42

of signing at six o'clock? Is it Luke

30:44

Cornette? Oh yeah, Deb on it. Deb

30:47

on the, okay. Five years is a long

30:50

time for Patrick Williams, but he's very,

30:52

very young and you know, if he ever pops

30:54

at all, that would be awesome for the Bulls,

30:56

but it kind of feels to

30:58

me like perhaps the Bulls are rebuilding here.

31:00

According to the Chicago Sun Times, it

31:04

wouldn't be surprising if DeRozan is gone, if Levine is

31:06

gone and Vuc is gone by the start of

31:08

opening night. Wow. We'll see. I

31:11

mean, DeRozan and Levine are probably becoming a

31:13

little bit more interesting for

31:15

teams right now with Paul George going to

31:17

Philadelphia, Clay Thompson isn't gonna get paid a

31:19

whole bunch of money. Like they're

31:21

running out of good guys who are available and

31:23

DeRozan for all of his faults, Zach Levine for

31:26

all of his faults, they still have been productive

31:28

players in their career. So they're gonna

31:30

sucker somebody into taking it. Well, and it sort of

31:32

like, it feels like we're gonna be waiting on Paul

31:34

George. Like it has to like a lot of these

31:36

teams, those type of guys could be backup plans if

31:38

you strike out on not getting Paul George to sign

31:40

with your team or whatever, right? Like, okay, now we

31:42

got to pivot. We got all these caps days, we

31:44

gotta do something with it. So

31:47

yeah, it could be DeRozan or Levine and sort

31:49

of backup plans, but we'll be waiting on

31:51

podcast P to make his decision. Hopefully it doesn't

31:53

take too long. Yeah, it feels like the Clippers

31:55

know that Paul George doesn't come back by

31:57

signing James Harden to the 270. Attacked

50:00

by my own dog. No. Yeah,

50:03

she was just my son. Okay.

50:05

Bam Boxers man,

50:08

they're called boxers for a reason Punch

50:11

in the face every once in a while. Jesus.

50:13

All right, Aaron Gordon style. Oh,

50:15

yeah That

50:18

was Christmas yeah, it's like playing Christmas night

50:20

and then dog mode at nighttime

50:22

I heard you showed up just to Santa and dog

50:25

got spooked Maybe that's why you

50:27

sort of look like Santa. Maybe dogs

50:29

don't like Santa Anyway,

50:31

Ty's Jones I think could be a Spurs fit as

50:34

well I mean if you do want just sort of

50:36

like a guy that never turns the ball over He

50:38

has a seven point three assist a turnover ratio Which

50:40

is like the best by far for anyone that's played

50:42

in a lot of games and the Wizards

50:44

believe it or not We're actually they

50:46

were better when he was out there running the

50:48

offense That shouldn't be a surprise because again his

50:50

field goal percentage went up his three point percentage

50:53

went up his effective field goal percentage They all

50:55

went up despite starting and playing more minutes. That's

50:57

pretty impressive. So yeah, I think the magic possibility

50:59

Maybe the pelicans depending on what they do Spurs

51:01

could be a fit other guys with his brother

51:03

because trade Jones is there's right Right, right. We

51:05

talked about Derek Jones jr. I mean, he's maybe

51:07

an underrated free agent to watch Chris Dunn Throw

51:10

him in the mix there Possibility drum in some

51:12

people if you need like the big To

51:15

stop up some minutes and hey would highsmith

51:18

who I think I thought I saw a rumor before we

51:20

went live Maybe the jazz were

51:22

showing interest in him. I can't remember or maybe the Thunder I

51:24

can't remember but He's

51:26

obviously maybe an underrated free agent as well

51:29

any news Don't anything

51:31

big dogs. The only thing I see over

51:33

here is the jazz are playing the wave

51:35

Omer Yurt's even Oh that guy

51:38

really hurt he's to play for the heat. He did.

51:40

Yeah, you know wasn't he did he wear number

51:42

77? I think so. Yeah respect

51:47

Alright, let's take a quick break here And when we

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51:53

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Well, I think he comes on a little bit

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after. If he plays, I assume he'll play. But

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anyway, oh, there it is. Good work, JD. And Ash, did I hear

54:25

right? You're going to be wearing a suit for that? Maybe.

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I don't know. That's what you said. A little

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toasty out there. A little toasty. I mean, the

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fabrics. A light weave.

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That's what I'm going to do. Let's

54:41

talk a little bit about the trade

54:43

that happened on Friday night. You guys

54:45

did an emergency podcast. The Pelicans

54:47

added Dejante Murray to their backcourt through

54:49

a trade with the Hawks there. The

54:51

Pels sent Larry Nance Jr., Dyson Daniels,

54:54

EJ Liddell, plus two first round picks. A

54:57

25 selection by way of the

54:59

Lakers and a 27 selection, which

55:01

is the least favorable from either

55:03

Milwaukee or New Orleans. Owned two

55:05

ATL for the

55:07

Mustard Man, Dejante Murray.

55:10

Attas, you surprised me on that emergency pod. Mustard Man. You

55:13

actually, you were calling it basically a win-win. You liked it from the

55:15

Pelicans side of things. Yeah. And

55:17

then the Hawks side of things. You thought it wasn't that

55:19

bad a return. Yeah. Them obviously making

55:21

a decision. We're going to, we got to trade one of these

55:23

guys, be a trade younger, Dejante Murray. They may not be done

55:25

trading. Yes. Dejan, it's a possibility still.

55:28

But yeah, have you changed your opinion on that at all or

55:30

still like it for both sides here? Yeah, people definitely got

55:32

angry at me and said, come on, I'm a Hawks fan.

55:34

That sucks. We want more than that

55:37

for Dejante Murray. But I

55:40

was looking at it from the mindset of the front office.

55:42

You want

55:44

to go basically and tear it all down? Is that

55:46

the idea? And try and

55:48

get better through the draft in the coming years? Or do

55:50

you want to try and do what you did a few years

55:52

ago? Try and rely on

55:54

Trey Young and get you to listen. It was,

55:57

it was a, like a wonderful Cinderella effect. got

56:00

to the conference finals and you

56:02

when you're going and relying on Trey,

56:04

it's very difficult to win in the

56:06

NBA. That is for sure. You don't

56:09

really win if you're relying on a small guard

56:11

as your guard. To me, it reminds me of

56:13

Damian Lillard in Portland. They got to a conference

56:15

finals and to me, I think

56:18

that was the option for Atlanta and I think I

56:21

would be fine with that. What they did

56:23

in 2021, it doesn't have to be

56:25

the exact same team, but basically it was pretty similar. They

56:27

had Bogdan Bogdanovich, just like they do now. The clinical pellet,

56:30

just like they do now. They had De'Anj 45

56:56

win team, but I do expect them to be a different team

56:59

that plays defense. I'm a

57:01

little excited on the vacuum on Dyson Daniels. I'm excited.

57:03

That was a big part of it. I thought I'm listening to you

57:06

guys do that emergency podcast. It does

57:08

change your perspective on the trade if you are a

57:10

Dyson Daniels fan or if you're a believer and

57:13

because then you're looking at like he's basically the first

57:15

round pick and now it's almost three first round picks.

57:17

You can talk yourself into that. I

57:19

just wonder, the Hawks ripped the

57:21

band-aid off so to speak, making the decision to

57:23

trade one of their back court guys, but

57:26

do you just amputee the whole damn

57:28

arm and just trade Trey Young as well

57:30

and really lean into your number one draft

57:32

pick, Jalen Johnson, Dyson Daniels is young, Kobe

57:35

Buffkin, and then whatever picks you have coming

57:37

up. That's a hell of a decision. It

57:39

feels like one even Atlanta wouldn't make because

57:41

it's like, who the hell is going

57:43

to go down in the fortress? I mean, if they're like a 18

57:46

win team type thing and they're really, really bad. Maybe

57:48

it's the right decision. Dyson Daniels fans,

57:51

maybe Tass will be there with his

57:53

Daniels jersey. He can listen. They didn't

57:56

have a great defense for the last

57:58

few years. When you

58:00

have Trey Young as your guy, you need those

58:02

types of guys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it is

58:04

scary. It is scary going forward with DeAndre Hunter

58:07

as your number three, who is always injured. Klinkappella

58:10

is getting older. It is scary. I

58:12

get it. Yeah,

58:15

you say you say they're a different team, but then you also

58:17

list all the guys from 2021. They're all still

58:19

there. They're going to be four years older by the time

58:21

the playoffs roll around. They're not a different team. That's the

58:23

problem. They're going to be the exact same team. It's not

58:25

going to be too bad. It's not going to be too

58:28

good. And Jalen Johnson is

58:30

okay. Jalen Johnson. Sure. Look,

58:32

you're banking on John. Jalen Johnson or John Collins

58:34

is the big, big, big one. Really. But

58:37

I don't know. I think considering the Hawks let

58:39

it get to this point with Dejante Murray, this

58:41

was the best they could do getting a couple

58:43

of decent first round picks

58:45

that hopefully convey and hopefully are like in the teens.

58:47

I guess they could get really lucky if the Lakers

58:49

won hits. But the thing with

58:52

Trey, I agree at this point, it makes the most

58:54

sense to completely start over and rebuild. But the only

58:56

trade they can make is with the Spurs because the

58:58

Spurs had their draft pick in 25, 26 and 27.

59:02

So they need that trade. Literally,

59:05

that's the only trade they could make to have it make sense.

59:07

Otherwise, there's no point in being the worst team in the

59:09

league because then another team just gets your top

59:12

five draft pick. Yeah. And the Spurs could

59:14

get there with. Yeah, the Spurs

59:16

could get there with I think

59:18

like Devante Graham's contract, Zach Collins

59:20

contract, Trey Jones contract. Like you

59:22

could get to Young's what do you make like 43,

59:24

44 million. So you could get

59:27

there, obviously, be giving all the picks back and

59:29

stuff like that. And that's why the Hawks would do it. It's

59:31

just then gets into like the Spurs want Trey Young. Is

59:33

that a guy you want as your point

59:36

guard with women? Yama, you

59:38

see some people say, yeah, of course. Oh, my God. So

59:40

the names I just gave you. Well,

59:42

yeah, that's like that. Yeah, they would only be trading

59:44

picks. Really? Totally. Those are just literally just contracts to

59:46

make it work. But Trey Young to me doesn't feel

59:49

like a San Antonio. I know that's why I think

59:51

Greg Popovich cut him from Team

59:53

USA World Cup in 2019 for

59:56

Derek White, oddly enough, back in the day. So

59:59

I don't necessarily. see that as a fit culture

1:00:02

wise for Trey Young. What

1:00:04

do you think Ash about the Pelicans Hawks

1:00:06

trade you're here in Atlanta? Well everybody's always

1:00:11

talking about we had to do something to break up

1:00:13

those two one of those guys had to leave we've

1:00:15

been talking about it all this past season thinking Dejante

1:00:17

was gonna go to the Lakers or maybe Trey Young

1:00:19

to the Lakers or the Spurs and now

1:00:22

with Dejante being gone it's like okay we picked

1:00:24

a direction like Tass was saying we've got Trey

1:00:26

Young to be our point guard we

1:00:30

have to make other moves though like we can't run back

1:00:32

the same team we've got Risashe

1:00:35

don't know what he's gonna be like coming in

1:00:37

Dejante Hunter I feel like has to be gone

1:00:39

he's we have to have somebody

1:00:42

in that spot to be a

1:00:44

lot more consistent than Dejante Hunter and

1:00:46

you know Johnson he's okay Klinkapilla I'm sure

1:00:49

is gonna be gone probably either

1:00:51

in the summer here or by the trade

1:00:53

deadline I'm sure with Okung Wu so I

1:00:56

don't know we picked a duration we don't have to

1:00:58

argue well whose team is it now because you would

1:01:00

hear rumblings from Atlanta fans all the time which one

1:01:02

is it so we got Trey

1:01:05

let's move forward with it let's get off this

1:01:07

back maybe maybe we can do something yeah

1:01:11

it's funny with Dejante Hunter because he puts up numbers and

1:01:13

he does well and then he

1:01:15

misses a lot of time he just he just continues to miss

1:01:17

time year after year I mean back in

1:01:19

that 21 playoffs they

1:01:21

were starting Solomon Hill for a while at

1:01:23

the small forward that was happening and

1:01:26

then cam reddish came on he looked awesome for

1:01:28

a while he was guarding really really

1:01:31

well in that box series guarding Chris

1:01:33

Middleton but

1:01:35

yes so the young guys have to really it's

1:01:37

up to Jalen Johnson I think to really move

1:01:39

this thing forward and it seems like Trey and

1:01:41

the way that they handshake on the floor every

1:01:43

single time they're really buds I

1:01:45

don't I don't know how much Jalen

1:01:47

Johnson involves because

1:01:50

what John Collins had back then was they

1:01:52

had an attitude that was a different team

1:01:54

and just Quinn Snyder though is what

1:01:56

he did with Donovan Mitchell in Utah's

1:01:59

it's seems like something that he could do with

1:02:01

Trejion. Depends on the guys around him, but you

1:02:03

know, I

1:02:06

just don't know if you just tear it down and just check it out. Like

1:02:08

what do you guys think from the New Orleans side? I

1:02:10

love it. I think they got him for very

1:02:12

little. They can't score

1:02:14

in the fourth quarters. Dejante Murray's clutch. Like

1:02:17

I, at times he was better than Trejion, a lot of

1:02:19

times this year for the Hawks. So

1:02:21

I think he'll help in that department. You'd like to

1:02:23

see him like get a little more locked in defensively,

1:02:25

because that was a big part of it. We're like,

1:02:28

we were like, oh yeah, what a perfect guard to

1:02:30

put alongside Trejion. This guy's like really good defensively. He

1:02:32

wasn't. No. I mean, he wasn't as

1:02:34

good as he was at least in the Spurs system. Now, is that a spin system

1:02:36

thing? Is that because he wasn't asked to do

1:02:38

as much offensively? Who knows? But you'd like to see him

1:02:40

trying it back to a little bit more on that end

1:02:42

of the floor, but he won't also have to be the

1:02:45

best defender for the Pelicans. Like that's Herb Jones, like if

1:02:47

he's there. So I really like

1:02:49

to fit in New Orleans. Gonna wait to sort of

1:02:51

see what they do with Brandon Ingram and

1:02:54

what that could possibly get him. I don't see how they

1:02:56

could play together. I don't think they're a fit at all.

1:02:58

I think Murray and Ingram said a player, but one is

1:03:00

four inches taller. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think he's gotta

1:03:02

go. And I think they gotta figure out what they do

1:03:05

with CJ McCollum as well, because he's a guy, he did

1:03:07

a pretty solid job playing off the ball. And that's the

1:03:09

big thing is that the Pelicans are actually getting a point

1:03:11

guard. Dejante Murray will handle the ball

1:03:13

quite a bit. I don't know if that means that

1:03:15

Zion doesn't have the ball quite as

1:03:18

often, but you should have contingency plans

1:03:20

as well. So I think they need to trade

1:03:22

Brandon Ingram for a center because they had none on the roster except for

1:03:24

a 19 year old. So, Brooke

1:03:27

Lopez maybe makes sense there. Maybe

1:03:30

Jared Allen, I know is somebody that the Pelicans

1:03:32

would like to have as well. So

1:03:35

if either the Bucks or the Cavs wanna

1:03:39

pay this giant extension to Brandon Ingram, there

1:03:41

could be a trade there. Right, right. We

1:03:43

have something here from Shams. It's

1:03:46

about a center in free agency. With

1:03:49

cap space teams, Orlando focused on wing

1:03:51

free agents and Utah focused on current

1:03:53

roster decisions. And the Knicks working

1:03:55

to unhard cap sources say the

1:03:58

Thunder are in Eugene, Oregon. set

1:04:00

to meet with Isaiah Hartenstein.

1:04:03

They are meeting with I

1:04:05

Heart. I thought this would be

1:04:07

maybe one that was like literally 601 hits

1:04:10

and it was like, Thunder, Sino, Isaiah Hartenstein to,

1:04:12

you know, four years, 120 million or

1:04:14

whatever the heck. But obviously they have

1:04:16

him as a target and it makes sense.

1:04:18

That's exactly who they could use. And

1:04:20

so they're gonna meet with him, according to Shomps. They're

1:04:22

gonna meet with him. Everybody likes to get a meeting. Always

1:04:25

take the meeting. You know, Paul George could easily just

1:04:28

decide where he wants to go, but it's fun to

1:04:30

be wooed. Isaiah Hartenstein, he knows the deal that's coming

1:04:32

from the Knicks. What was it, four years, 78 is

1:04:34

the max. They could offer

1:04:36

him. We'll see what the Thunder can do,

1:04:38

but obviously they can beat the

1:04:40

Knicks offer if they want

1:04:42

to. So it'll be dollars

1:04:45

or comfort because the Knicks gave him a

1:04:47

bigger role. He was awesome as a starter.

1:04:49

He will still be getting a raise from

1:04:52

the Knicks. Just, he could be getting a bigger raise from a team

1:04:54

like the Thunder. Yeah, after all

1:04:56

that the Knicks have done with

1:04:59

Mikel Bridges, signing

1:05:01

OG, it feels like Hartenstein

1:05:03

may go, depending on how much

1:05:05

he can get from somewhere else. Or

1:05:08

maybe he's just having a meeting. But

1:05:10

that would fit so well. Because

1:05:13

they need size. They need size.

1:05:16

And although Chet Holmgren is their starting center and is a

1:05:18

monstrous man, giving away Josh Giddi did

1:05:20

limit their size, which was already an

1:05:23

issue. But Hartenstein,

1:05:25

he could be the backup five and

1:05:27

then finish games. I mean,

1:05:29

because what they're really in need of is

1:05:33

another, like a guy who could finish. It could

1:05:35

be Caruso, obviously that's no problem. But instead of

1:05:37

Dort, you could have a Hartenstein Chet combo. Yeah,

1:05:39

it'd be nice to have the option to go

1:05:42

big. You got lots. You got lots. Because Chet,

1:05:44

despite being obviously huge, I mean, he's a different

1:05:46

player than Isaiah Hartenstein. And that's fine, but man,

1:05:48

I think he'd be awesome in OKC. Unlike

1:05:51

confident this one is going to happen,

1:05:54

like they're going to just like come in with a pretty damn good

1:05:56

deal for him. I'm trying, I'm drawing a blank. Who

1:05:58

recently got four for a hundred? 100 million Nick

1:06:00

clackstoke. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, so okay. I

1:06:03

mean, I know he's younger and all that

1:06:06

Probably not even by that much. I see a weird

1:06:08

guys like he feels way older, but he's not but

1:06:10

anyway So that's sort of okay. There's sort of setting

1:06:12

your market, you know a little bit So

1:06:14

that's something obviously okay see could do you

1:06:17

want to get some of the other news while

1:06:19

we wait on Paul George? Yeah, we're just waiting on Paul.

1:06:22

We gotta make a decision how long we're gonna go here We'll

1:06:24

give it another 20 30 minutes maybe but we

1:06:26

do have some other news Let's just go to it and

1:06:28

you know interrupt me Ash if anything comes across I'll

1:06:30

just say before you go the only thing I've

1:06:32

seen is a but tomb is not returning to

1:06:34

the 76ers So he is free agent. Okay.

1:06:37

Okay. I saw that too and

1:06:39

I had already excuse me forgotten about him But

1:06:43

yeah He

1:06:46

hit big shots, yeah, I guess he's

1:06:49

getting more money from elsewhere I

1:06:52

mean, they're waiting to sign Paul George to a max and

1:06:56

Maybe can't give Paul are but to more

1:06:58

than the minimum But like you said

1:07:00

Paul George was talking up but to man Covington

1:07:02

when he was obviously I was with the clipper

1:07:04

Yeah, he was saying like yeah, man.

1:07:07

Once those guys left me and Koa had to do the

1:07:09

dirty work The

1:07:18

big news today was the Detroit Pistons are

1:07:20

finalizing a deal with former Cavs coach JB

1:07:22

Bickerstaff To be their next head

1:07:24

coach just a week after firing Monty

1:07:26

Williams, so I guess

1:07:29

Kenny Atkinson Cavs coach JB Bickerstaff

1:07:31

moving from Cleveland He is

1:07:33

gonna be Detroit's head coach your

1:07:36

thoughts. Where does James beret go? I

1:07:38

don't know man I was

1:07:40

the leader here for a while and then Trajan Langdon

1:07:42

took over the job and now

1:07:44

suddenly it's JB Bickerstaff Going

1:07:46

from the Cavs to the Pistons kind of

1:07:48

weird to me. Yeah, it is a little yeah The Pistons

1:07:51

love to hire a guy that's been fired Like

1:07:54

Dwayne Casey, Monty Williams now

1:07:56

Bickerstaff Yeah,

1:07:58

it wasn't this sort of came out of nowhere Absolutely.

1:08:00

I was like, well, okay JB's getting I think it's like a

1:08:02

four or five year deal I think the athletic was saying four

1:08:04

years. I think we'll set five years So

1:08:07

it's not like short by any means that's sort of I think

1:08:09

now just a going rate for most of these coaches Especially

1:08:11

someone's been coaching for a while and coach a lot of

1:08:13

teams. But what do you think of this move from Langdon?

1:08:17

Yeah, the the brago side is interesting. I

1:08:19

wonder how much they actually really really wanted

1:08:21

him I saw within within a slack accountant

1:08:24

that I'm a member of that James Edwards

1:08:26

did mention that The

1:08:29

fact that he has been withdrawn is a

1:08:31

little bit Too much

1:08:33

because they weren't really looking for him is

1:08:35

the whole implication and JB

1:08:37

I guess as you said they they do like a

1:08:40

guy who's fired now He did turn the Cavs around

1:08:42

big time You know his first full season was a

1:08:44

22 and 50 and then they

1:08:46

went 44 games then they acquired Donovan Mitchell they won

1:08:48

the 51 games and then You

1:08:51

know when he gets fired and the hip piece came out

1:08:53

right away. Yeah that The veterans

1:08:55

at least in the Cavs locker room We're butting

1:08:57

heads with them and and I think actually

1:08:59

this will be a good team for him because I remember

1:09:01

that that report was They thought

1:09:04

the veterans in the Cavs locker room thought Bickerstaff was

1:09:06

treating them like a young team And

1:09:08

then you know, they had to learn and stuff like that

1:09:10

and not not like a team Like maybe ready to contend

1:09:12

and a little more ahead of schedule So

1:09:14

Bickerstaff is now with a young team. So maybe this is

1:09:16

a better fit for him I don't think he's a terrible

1:09:19

coach by any means. No, he turned around a Cavs team.

1:09:21

Yeah when they were a young team Right,

1:09:24

but he may get fired in a few years

1:09:26

because he's an NBA head coach. He will

1:09:28

get fired Set the

1:09:30

line at two and a half. I guess you and

1:09:32

half seasons you can set it up Yeah, but if

1:09:34

he gets them to a play and turn right position,

1:09:37

that's a It's a

1:09:39

healthy an achievement. Well, the bar could not possibly

1:09:41

be lower How many games

1:09:43

did they win for 14? This is

1:09:45

year six of the rebuild for Detroit.

1:09:47

Yeah, yeah coach three I

1:09:50

am with you though. It's like it's uninspiring.

1:09:52

It's a safe. It's a safe pick Right,

1:09:55

you but Trajan Langdon comes in here as

1:09:57

the franchise's new president of basketball operations. He

1:09:59

basically Sort of revamps the front office. That

1:10:01

was good. See you later Troy Weaver And

1:10:04

then fires the head coach and then obviously gets his new head

1:10:06

coach here They need to yeah,

1:10:08

this has been a long time of them

1:10:11

being bad They need to start seeing some

1:10:13

development with their young guys and hopefully vicar

1:10:15

staff can can help them get there There's

1:10:17

some hot rumors about Kentavius called all Pope

1:10:19

going back to Detroit where he used to

1:10:21

play But why would

1:10:23

he want to go back there? I mean get

1:10:25

the paycheck the paycheck I'll say I'm like a

1:10:28

leverage leak to me. Yep possible. You got cap

1:10:30

space. I could go sign there You better pay

1:10:32

me a little bit more. Mm-hmm Mm-hmm In

1:10:35

other news you sort of slipped it in

1:10:37

earlier Canadian Olympic basketball team GM Rowan Barrett

1:10:40

said Friday that Golden State is blocking Andrew

1:10:42

Wiggins from competing in Paris While

1:10:44

the Warriors countered it was a mutual decision

1:10:47

between the team and Andrew Wiggins was

1:10:49

among the 20 players who received invitations

1:10:51

to camp to determine the Olympic

1:10:53

team a Lot

1:10:56

of Canadian basketball fans upset with this tasks not

1:10:58

happy with Steve Kerr not happy with the Warriors

1:11:01

Basically right before the start of training camp That was

1:11:03

sort of the weird part that it was like suddenly

1:11:05

like no, you can't go and you're not

1:11:07

playing for them Well, what was your takeaway? Obviously

1:11:10

a little disappointment, but at the same time

1:11:12

the team that Played

1:11:15

last year without him was

1:11:17

fantastic. They were so good Yeah,

1:11:19

and so yes, it would be nice to get Peek Wig,

1:11:21

but they could use some size and some wing Yeah,

1:11:25

Lou dort it's gonna be a lot of

1:11:27

be asked for him to to produce and

1:11:29

fire away from three-point land Hopefully he hits

1:11:31

them but they have they

1:11:34

have That's that's

1:11:36

where they're lacking is wings and bigger and

1:11:38

the and the actual big men the center

1:11:40

spot going up against if we're talking We're

1:11:44

talking big we're talking about going up against

1:11:46

the USA the Kelly Olenek Dwight

1:11:49

Powell Zach Edie know Zach Edie.

1:11:52

He's a Yeah, so that's

1:11:54

disappointing. That's for sure But

1:11:57

we don't know what Wiggins we're gonna get anyway because we're

1:11:59

not

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