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Animal Well, Crow Country, Little Kitty Big City

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0:31

Hello friends Welcome to episode One hundred and

0:33

seventy Six of the Know club group have

0:36

to stay while doing we have a bounty

0:38

we have we have foraged in the wild

0:40

so we have returned all four of us

0:43

this week at with their with with delicious

0:45

routes from from from mother earth from the

0:47

videogame Mother herself as some others have collected

0:49

some of the fruits of that the other

0:52

ones haven't some of his of collectors completely

0:54

unique fruits. We're going to talk about a

0:56

whole bunch of games I'm just gonna say

0:59

them rifle jobs. You know we're going to

1:01

talk. Whereabouts are were animal? Well we're

1:03

talking a little bit. Little kitty big

1:05

city Crow country. Which. Is presumably

1:07

the region next to Little Kitty

1:09

big city fabled I'm which is

1:11

where they all live and breathe.

1:13

Anniversary Edition which doesn't fit into

1:15

this on fire pro wrestling world

1:17

which absolutely doesn't either. Am. Lots.

1:20

Of stuff to talk about and lots of people

1:22

to talk about them including a returning member of

1:24

the know club grow guys Jesse graduate go back

1:26

to show. Happy.

1:29

To be here. Excited to talk about kitties

1:31

and crows and everything. I've got my my

1:33

big basket of strawberries. That's what I collect.

1:35

The woman out for a giant this afternoon

1:37

did real away. Is this real Strawberries? Are

1:39

these made of strawberries? Because they don't fit

1:41

into the idiom that I came up with.

1:43

y twenty strawberries, Your glutes, your time of

1:46

the fruit, the forged fruits of illustrates there's

1:48

their eggs. I guess would be the thing

1:50

because I'm gonna talk about animal oil. so

1:52

I guess I got a Agliotti Reagan animal.

1:54

Well. That. Was shocking imagining found like

1:56

a the phantom a bushel and had eggs.

1:59

Frank and what's the best way to serve

2:01

eggs? Scrambled. Anything

2:06

else to grab some saw as as

2:08

as easy whatever. shell then sell the

2:10

house. Just mad just

2:13

before he says either of our own

2:15

known are they doing the Gordon Rewriting

2:17

scrambled for the like tell whether scrambled

2:19

eggs So the go to rehab little

2:21

dryer. And I

2:23

I I have no preference of food.

2:26

Ali ne bi Attenborough I've experienced that

2:28

the American scrambled egg is the dry

2:30

yeah like a back home scrambled egg

2:32

is a little bit. Of adapt.

2:35

Mean look at like the restaurant style

2:37

here like if you don't have a

2:39

lot of earth is is about assess

2:41

whether you've got on my it's monaco

2:43

really nice restaurant in my get them

2:45

wet eggs was you guys are even

2:47

like holiday in buffet eggs them like

2:49

you know the powdered eggs get first

2:51

thing in the morning when you crawl

2:54

out of your eighty dollar hotel worth

2:56

of grabbed some fucking to exit of

2:58

a bird's nest this above your hobble

3:00

and just toss of of and dry

3:02

amount real nice Terrific Derby Jane welcome

3:04

back What is your. Favorite bird. As

3:07

either bird Now ah of his

3:09

choice. Plugins. Are going to

3:11

be best man. Is. Probably the quail I love

3:13

of a little while we'll there he know

3:15

que. O. Either going to say because

3:18

you can be be no I will grill

3:20

quite I used to eat a lot of

3:22

well in fact the last boss i used

3:24

to eat like okay this is a very

3:26

short that weird story of back in the

3:28

day pre know club i had a business

3:30

partner that of his documentaries with and i'm

3:32

to celebrate again well done we would go

3:34

to sleep in oakland with that has like

3:36

live birds and you can pick weird like

3:38

guinea fowl and quail and it is the

3:40

the given to you and it's like fresh

3:42

bird and the reason we can vegetarian is

3:44

because they killed in front of you. And

3:46

I was so fucking promise that movie

3:49

wash must set up and was this

3:51

is like a lobster thing but what

3:53

a fucking bird yeah I mean it

3:55

was. it was awesome and the time

3:57

they didn't take in the back to.

4:00

Prepare and I was like this is

4:02

horrible effort he ran off with the

4:04

Us embassy date was that were you

4:06

sitting at like I like a big

4:08

wooden table and they just slammed the

4:10

bird down and shop that's had offer

4:12

of now. I would describe the vibe

4:14

as I'm like silent Hill Doctors room

4:16

is kind of. The violence is sold

4:18

for either. No lights it's a hey

4:20

listen if you're in singles out in

4:22

Oakland as you want some fresh be

4:25

it was in a single time it

4:27

was in general down a while to

4:29

get that's that's. I don't know

4:31

what at I don't know why worry either

4:33

why we expect address as nothing nothing about

4:35

this and that like this is a must

4:38

read active celebration and you're going to ask

4:40

if we wanna ride rob ya zynga town

4:42

less as it was my business partners idea

4:44

of what know never to the business results

4:47

as he stole from be so maybe he

4:49

wasn't a very trustworthy yell adviser and where

4:51

to get birds from that because he invested

4:53

all of your money and as fuck and

4:56

bird murder restaurant he has his the over

4:58

because he was really deep into. The bird

5:00

people are was called the Avery or something

5:02

like that and maybe will say that and

5:05

I bet there's more than one person is

5:07

how like a traumatic childhood I mean you'd

5:09

a dramatic adult experience there but like most

5:11

like bringing your kid or something then they

5:13

just like I'm a parent mommy. what was

5:15

the weirdest bird? the reselling there was an

5:17

all Quails sisters I now believe this is

5:20

real. This is Sam personally I you know

5:22

the specifics of the you'd like to see

5:24

and a fucking wet markets in in his

5:26

in as far and distant land but I

5:28

bought a no I haven't. Spoken mess up

5:30

man but I didn't like this was

5:32

within the realm of lint contains Molson.

5:35

Oakland is at times a ah another

5:37

another nation the I was just they

5:39

would have said like quail guinea fowl

5:41

was good now and the one that

5:43

I saw die that was the saddle

5:45

and that's like any birds a more.

5:48

started life as an activist the valley works

5:50

ah yeah don't we just like a wall

5:52

of weird fuckin birds as like everything else

5:54

seconds and stuff it serve you too can

5:56

get in the beach they didn't write it

5:58

up and put it in they're handed to

6:00

you like a

6:02

fucking clam chowder bowl they just like

6:04

I think

6:06

I actually found it let's

6:09

we can revisit this at the end of the this feels like

6:11

a kind of a horrible way to

6:13

open up podcast we revisit the end too

6:15

late now we're it's far too late we're

6:17

deep the battle pass holders can waste we

6:20

need to figure this out okay I believe

6:22

if I'm not mistaken it was I'm gonna

6:24

get sued if I say the name it's

6:26

a public it's it's a business it's what

6:28

they do I believe Saba

6:32

live poultry okay

6:36

okay that's what like they are

6:38

literally it says it on the

6:40

tin like that is that is not

6:42

they're not you buy five chickens

6:45

you get one free so

6:47

the chickens I'm not you know maybe this

6:49

is showing my own sort of ignorance

6:52

and and biases but like the chickens I'm

6:54

like yeah sure chickens yeah you eat a

6:56

chicken chickens are largely bred

6:58

for eggs and for for for

7:01

their meat and so I'm

7:03

not super maybe do you think it's

7:05

a chicken restaurant and you sort of

7:08

accidentally went like sort of animal style

7:10

off menu you know you eat one

7:12

of the fucking pigeons what's wrong with

7:14

this guy go to the staff chat

7:16

right now and you'll see how wrong

7:18

you are is this an auto-court and

7:20

our discord okay what am I what

7:22

Jess Jesse describe what you're seeing because

7:25

I haven't seen it's like

7:27

a it's a menu with all these

7:29

different animals most of them birds with

7:31

prices on them and you know buy

7:33

five get one free and then there's

7:35

just a rabbit as

7:37

one of the options If you

7:39

want to know what I do appreciate this

7:42

place that clearly is is the closest thing

7:44

you can get to a wet market in

7:46

America Having yeah like compulsory CDC guidelines for

7:48

COVID right next to this line that's like

7:51

do you want freshly cut up bird? They

7:53

have to though they don't want COVID 20

7:55

popping out of a lot of loose birds.

7:57

That's a good point Man what's starting. Well

8:00

you ever heard of Sabah live poultry

8:02

and it's like a documentary on Netflix.

8:04

The zooming in all young you buying

8:06

a chicken me buying a good he

8:08

has his get a newer guys rabbits

8:10

the version as well on the menu

8:12

pigeon receive age and my atlas my

8:14

had a full boyfriend fandom is feeling

8:16

at a deep massive pain or whether

8:18

you'd like to shoot picture of the

8:20

small doctors. My class you know is

8:22

very have like if a public like

8:24

valentine's day garlic the next field of

8:26

grass. Movie.

8:28

What's that middle of one Big Mercy?

8:31

Ducks be I heard the i Can't

8:33

oh mister or miss oh yes. And

8:35

the ones to the left about Stoker

8:38

that a name of a burden that

8:40

sucker sucker Smoke.soccer and know. That

8:43

size yeah they're like wow that sucker partridge

8:45

his it of name. This is literally just

8:47

like gave a. A picture of

8:50

like a by a poster on the

8:52

wall with cute pictures of animals. Out

8:54

of specifically birds and for some reason

8:56

one single robbers how much as and

8:59

fifty bucks or rabbit? Hole different

9:01

colored eyes. As for the rabbits? Yeah. Man

9:04

his arrival an hour ago and for the

9:06

Christmas dinner the same as a society gonna

9:08

be good if you take me there again

9:10

see the city the fucking kill the rabbit

9:12

have brought to you that a bloody brilliant

9:14

little hot shouldn't get Hands you have a

9:17

like i like us club. I

9:19

me they have a back room but

9:21

these dudes disease and prose. they'll kill

9:23

anything you want either assess pheasants or

9:25

big man bulls out there is a

9:27

brilliant person. The you know like they're

9:29

They're like read a page and zoc.

9:31

Just give me five minutes. Somebody runs

9:33

outside, What a mess! Up

9:37

easy to fame Seville I faltered. By the

9:39

way, they have three and five three point

9:41

five stars on Yelp. You know it's respectable

9:43

amount of star. one of the ones that

9:45

get minus one just based on their business

9:47

model immediately or I like says you're so

9:49

they're operating out of poverty. A ceiling A

9:52

for but it's hard to be five stars

9:54

on your bloodletting animal the in the front

9:56

of shop. To buy the

9:58

blood. Or. Ah,

10:00

hundred percent sure you can buy the blood. He.

10:03

get like a like a. Like. A Pick

10:05

and mix your have you guys a pick

10:07

and mix over here. Twenty you am says

10:09

a real three cove. it's think it's a

10:11

it's a thing we got like a little.

10:13

you go into a sweet shop and you

10:15

get like a little. Bag. And

10:17

he just. Put. Whatever you want in

10:19

it lowry out of like and then on the

10:21

way it at the end. Does.

10:23

Yeah thank you Letters like surprise bags for

10:25

the animal and trail skill I gonna be

10:28

like on what some of the kids though

10:30

the kidneys in here gimme some bird. Lightning

10:32

selected funded exactly when the bay like a

10:34

like a cocktail or like a what's the

10:36

call does a got what he called us

10:38

little those japanese old things he had the

10:41

the plastic balls the open another round gotcha.

10:43

Yeah Augustus okay yeah moon about seven want

10:45

to put a quarter and spit it was

10:48

going to come out which they run and

10:50

hide. Prius you know on some awful a

10:52

call them and suggest that their Italian by

10:55

the time Dennis Dennis was rare friend of

10:57

their know club was done it once again

10:59

capture for some stuff over the years he

11:01

had this idea to am he likes me

11:04

to go on these like cooking tangents a

11:06

subtle about seen obese bruises on beer Israelis

11:08

bits and bobs I for some reason he

11:10

was he was doing something and he he

11:13

needed to get a he needed a bunch

11:15

of fat for it. And. It

11:17

was there. And as and

11:19

they had this idea who that fat was

11:21

it was when we were living in as

11:24

Ireland and Iran was broke and he was

11:26

x did get is rendered fall it's a

11:28

really expensive so he went to the English

11:30

Marcus in Cork where we were living and

11:32

he asked the butcher and he was like

11:34

hey now fats like tired com by it's

11:36

had get that much use like. It

11:38

was make your own fact. When

11:40

he mean that he's he had get

11:42

a bunch of like fat from one

11:44

of us that we thrive on. Your

11:46

facts, take some Alaska go home boils.

11:49

And you can like then you get it renders

11:51

down and you get like cooking fancies like. Than.

11:54

Their at that stage I would have been

11:56

like i'm good in Allens Tennessee I from

11:58

east and it's like fun. Absolutely what when

12:01

they come back as a comeback against decks

12:03

that comes back sky hands on like this.

12:05

Fucking Huge like. that bag

12:07

thing to school of fat. Puts

12:10

in his car, brings it home. Boils

12:13

this fight. I swear to God Dionysus have

12:15

smelled of fat for Betty a subset of

12:17

such a horrific first or it does not

12:19

boil quickly. He had the ball at like.

12:21

I don't think he ever got to render

12:23

down who's buying a for like like the

12:25

weekend. He was more like that the oven

12:27

was on. For. Like all nice

12:29

him rendering passes. it's fuckin' the

12:31

barman a court and I was

12:33

and it smells so bad I

12:36

dive. Went to visit sales go

12:38

nightly. What the fuck is he

12:40

making like so. I don't and

12:42

maybe he was making explosives. Natty Not going to say

12:44

I've seen fight Club. I know you do without much

12:46

fat. I have to ask it was

12:48

he blowing up like a corporate billie have? It is

12:50

like a man and his best friend. Asked

12:55

us to ask him further research

12:57

required Am. Who. I don't have

12:59

to ask is that is that the folks

13:01

its ab page on our costs less know

13:03

that who have been already helping us as

13:05

on credible members are credible A free member

13:07

Sue Page on finally did it. They added

13:10

the ability to post things to both paid

13:12

every members of the same time. I'm so

13:14

happy. It's with the whole point

13:16

I wanted have some actual content that we could

13:18

give basically to all of our community regardless of

13:20

if they are patrons are not as paying patrons

13:23

As a big part of this is we have

13:25

a lot of people who have been patrons to

13:27

us for years and years and years and then

13:29

obviously it's at a certain point they go or

13:31

am I have done my part and in a

13:33

fortune and we have to say like. Bye.

13:36

Bye to them you know he didn't get like

13:38

was debater. Joy of know they've been a patron

13:40

for like five years am so add deserve this

13:42

having a mechanism the basically allows them to sort

13:45

of like just go to the bench you know

13:47

maybe for a while, maybe forever on an open

13:49

just like sit out a couple of his i'm

13:51

us to still have them as party community data

13:54

as on the I've been dying for him to

13:56

ask him page on to do for years and

13:58

years ever since a spurs are. Membership

14:00

so they just added that. I'm super

14:02

super excited to. We're going to have

14:05

a whole new Ruairi fit of them,

14:07

the tears and a bunch of stuff.

14:09

Laboratory or Napster in the summertime Am.

14:11

What will be saying though is probably

14:13

are incredible. Will definitely I'm kind of

14:15

a bottle pass holders. Same and Slattery

14:17

Harry Flanagan Battle Royale games are no

14:20

Richard Matheson, Jason the Lily, James Brown

14:22

Bears No one of their pay to

14:24

am across. Ryan Cobb Tucker Morgan Crimson

14:26

Cyclists spend Mr. Peres you in nice

14:28

center right this week. Tim Robbins. It

14:30

far as brewing. Jonathan. Kremlin,

14:33

Eric Hamilton Snyder. I

14:35

relax Zachary Nader, Alex Sharp Alex do

14:38

say George Dakota's Jacob God serve a

14:40

totally I've and of course rice and

14:42

thank you so much for am as

14:45

giving us have so much money a

14:47

month which we need because of all

14:49

of the video games we had to

14:52

buy this month to play and talk

14:54

of as am. Ok,

15:00

let's do this in order of a I

15:02

guess the games than most of us have

15:05

played. Let's start with the one which I

15:07

played a bunch of and then totally forgot

15:09

that the embargo would have dropped by the

15:12

time last week's podcast game as this of

15:14

course is animal well am a game that

15:16

I was talking about was it I was

15:18

I was in the shower they're trying to

15:21

remember. was it two summers ago that we

15:23

did thus Summer Games Best video link so

15:25

it sounds when it it might be a

15:27

now I don't think it was last year.

15:30

When I went to As T Liza

15:32

summer games as which Frank will be

15:34

going add to this year vc Frank

15:36

as a kiwi fast mixture go up

15:38

as a hail of be filming some

15:40

stuff played some games am but as

15:42

this was a game that I saw

15:44

that it was my stand out as

15:46

my pick of the. Of the

15:49

show as a subsidiary got picked

15:51

up by Big Mode game zur

15:53

sign away made a singer their

15:55

a donkey in the As As

15:57

publishing arm which I had. Concerns

16:00

about at when it was

16:02

initially announced at a game.

16:05

I. Was something that I was by it a

16:07

sort of a beta code saying that they kept

16:09

up dating for a while so I'd played a

16:11

lot of it over the past year or so

16:14

am and then that it eventually came at one

16:16

point Joe at the end of last week at

16:18

has gotten a bunch of really great reviews. People

16:20

seem to be really into as as some people

16:22

have bounced off Vests Abbott. I'm excited to hear

16:24

what you guys have to say about us. At

16:27

Jeremy you completed such. Go to you first of

16:29

all and what have you made of animal? well

16:31

what? First of all what have a game is

16:33

it and how would you describe in yeah. Yeah,

16:36

what you make of it is

16:38

a pixel art Metroid Mania plath

16:40

former an active combat you're a

16:42

little bit like a little blob.

16:44

Little blob. man I was like

16:46

a blob. Yeah unless you are

16:48

you're eating was it appears to

16:50

be some sort of well full

16:52

of animals. I

16:55

fuckin I love this game. I think this is

16:57

this is my favorite memory me as as holiday

16:59

which is saying a lot because I love all

17:01

and I am. I. Yeah.

17:04

I. I'm tempering other things I'll say because

17:06

I think that one of the beautiful things

17:08

about this game is a sense of discovery.

17:10

I think that the thing that Animal Well

17:12

does the best is take. Things. That

17:15

seem very like things that seem like things

17:17

video games have been doing for thirty years.

17:19

Very competently. So you're like most. what new

17:21

ground could there be to explore and this?

17:24

yeah and I've played measure of any as

17:26

a flame platform years have you played a

17:28

to the Av puzzle apply for me type

17:30

game before your me A This is the

17:33

first one that some it unlocks and and

17:35

one items that allowed to enter new areas.

17:37

Something like that Henri you're defining careful. It

17:39

may shock some of our listeners to hear

17:42

these things. and yeah no it's A It

17:44

does. It's play in the hits in some

17:46

sense of, but in another more important sense. I

17:48

think. When. Animal Well does

17:50

so so well Well well that

17:52

first try not to record a

17:54

thoughts of is it like. Everything.

17:57

in a this is that is this is not well

18:00

But this is the closest I'll come to like alluding to why this

18:02

game is so brilliant it takes

18:05

all everything in animal well has like

18:07

an Exoteric purpose

18:10

and then you're like, okay, that's what

18:13

that does And then you play the game

18:15

for three more hours and something accidental happens

18:17

where you're like, holy shit There's like a

18:19

hidden dimension to this thing that I've been

18:21

using the normal way for three hours and

18:24

it just like it had it just Constantly

18:26

pulls this trick where you're having like a

18:29

repeated sense of discovery about things that you

18:31

thought you understood and it's it's like It's

18:33

unbelievably brilliant Jesse what

18:35

have you made of us? How far are you into us? It's

18:40

like six six eight hours something like that Yeah, I

18:43

think it took me about nine or ten and I

18:45

finished with 42 of the eggs or something like that

18:47

There's collectibles not names. They're called eggs. It's

18:50

what you get from the chest, which I always found funny

18:52

because playing What was it Prince of

18:54

Persia the lost crown earlier this year another Metroidvania?

18:56

More action focused the reward at the end

18:59

of completing long challenges was like you get

19:01

a shirt Like you get a new outfit

19:03

and this kind of has the same feeling

19:05

where after you complete these long Puzzle

19:08

challenges are these challenging puzzles that require you to

19:10

think in new and different ways you get like

19:13

You like frost egg? No,

19:17

I really really like a law as well. I

19:19

did it too It's

19:21

it's got this thing and I think Jeremy you

19:23

you're right in saying that it's it's a really

19:26

good Metroidvania because it I think It captures what?

19:29

The Metroid part of that is like I

19:31

feel like when I'm playing Metroidvania is now

19:33

They lean a lot more combat and a

19:35

lot more platforming a lot more in the

19:37

main side of things which isn't a knock

19:39

I enjoy that aspect of it But what

19:41

Metroid the original three Metroid Metroid super

19:43

Metroid and whatever the third one was fusion. No,

19:45

that's the game Doesn't matter my Fusion

19:51

frenzy no though

19:54

those games had a sense of stranger

19:57

in a strange land or like Feeling.

20:00

Like you don't know what's going on in

20:02

the world? Ah, there aren't enough much. Word

20:04

mean is that feel That way? They feel

20:06

mechanically contemporary, so you can kind of always

20:08

tell what's going on and then. Also, the

20:10

design of the world is fairly easy to

20:12

parse. It doesn't really feel like you're learning

20:14

anything new when you play them, like from

20:16

a. World. Perspective because world building

20:18

but it's like a guy lives in a

20:20

house and he's meme. Mary's like a king

20:22

in the castle and he doesn't like the

20:24

people who reports with yeah I get a

20:26

read a story before the playing animal well

20:29

and earlier this year old. Trust those you

20:31

games I knew like yes are really embracing

20:33

the alien nature other than the Metroid, a

20:35

part of Metroid Vanja more and more than

20:37

most of the other games using that that

20:39

branding and it's been. Isn't. Really fun

20:41

to see. I'm excited to play more animal

20:43

well because even though you know we finished

20:45

it, Slut. To that

20:47

game, it's not just like you hit

20:49

the credits and the game's over. His

20:51

lot of stuff going on. did a

20:53

very very summer stuff that we get

20:56

talk about out this game That I

20:58

think that maybe the most interesting thing

21:00

about this game weirdly agriculture. All

21:02

i wanna talk about i think as

21:04

as as so the killer of this

21:06

whole thing which is just the the

21:09

graphics, the sound the by a but

21:11

the weirdness of this entire at worlds

21:13

am the game obviously has like it's

21:15

a to the pot former and boy

21:17

oh boy is of our i mean

21:20

it's you know what we we celebrate

21:22

games like all trust because they looked

21:24

completely insane am my i don't know

21:26

what that game is it's a cross

21:28

between like of Futurama episodes of With

21:30

Slur Menace am you. Know multiplied by

21:33

some crazy other European artist or

21:35

something and then yeah you know

21:37

at Blasphemous for instance which is

21:39

that you know very much in

21:41

that sort of em contemporary. Our

21:43

old style Spanish ab painterly at

21:45

as look to it as well.

21:47

lots of big dark black at

21:49

tones and as and an animal

21:51

well as just like. it's neon

21:53

for sure. It's like the base

21:55

color is is darkness again and

21:57

then it's just blues and greens

21:59

like us. The Nightmare Before Christmas

22:01

Style a Halloween to and palette

22:03

to the whole thing. But

22:06

the tone of it the sound

22:08

design is incredible the like it

22:10

feels very am. A

22:13

kinetic because the games graphics are very

22:15

basic but the physics that are happening

22:17

are are not select. The lighting is

22:19

all interesting and dynamic. There's lots of

22:22

like the little physics objects swaying, the

22:24

sounds of lots of animals in the

22:26

background. On the parallax you can see

22:28

stuff going on. it just feels like

22:31

it's crawling a little were which I

22:33

really think is cool and that's it.

22:35

has these like you mentioned the jeremy

22:37

that this sort of objects like at

22:40

you know objects that feel that in

22:42

a world. That felt like it was a

22:44

more realistic place to this. The place in

22:46

on the wealth feels like something and have

22:48

a fever dream. It doesn't feel like an

22:51

alien planet necessarily. error if feels like an

22:53

imagined place. Almost so damn. and you're saving

22:55

your you save game on a telephone and

22:57

this is weird. Like Twin Peaks sort of

22:59

bad music play on the background with you.

23:01

That enough it's I don't know what. it's

23:03

just. Again, it's something I keep coming back

23:06

to as a thirty eight year old gamer.

23:08

Anything that's fresh that makes me feel oh

23:10

I've not seen this before. I am just

23:12

on it immediately. And I think I'd really

23:14

like.about Animal. Well yeah, the attention to

23:16

detail at it is. So as Senator

23:18

Billie Bassa who made this game as

23:20

I specifically want to say his name

23:22

because this is not the fault of

23:24

donkey at all. but that one is

23:27

just. What? Does the outcomes of this

23:29

being published a very popular like personality

23:31

figure on the internet is that I.

23:33

Do. You go to. He made the game. as

23:35

his see been any down as sexiness. If

23:38

you to the steam reviews if you go

23:40

anywhere you will see. Ninety is

23:42

I'd say like two thirds of the comments

23:44

will be the same as like Halo to

23:46

meet Halo Three I believe it or C

23:48

I A or you'll see like yeah just

23:50

like references to Donkey or like lots of

23:52

other like Donkeys game game of It and

23:55

it's It's cool because I'm glad that analog

23:57

it's the boost that it so much deserves.

23:59

but I. A Billie Basso learn

24:01

learn the man's name ppl. Billie Basso made

24:03

this fucking game. Here is an ex never

24:05

realm dude. oh yeah I any because he

24:07

said he's basins Chicago area. am I interviewed

24:10

him or I talk to him back then

24:12

and ask them and he's so he's like

24:14

s guy who worked at a big studio

24:16

and then left and went to start his

24:18

own thing and yeah like you said he

24:20

I don't know if he did every everything

24:23

like the music maybe would like. Basically the

24:25

game is a is a one person show.

24:27

he did the music as well as a

24:29

he invests in. The in the video that

24:31

they did to promote of the donkey but on

24:33

his tail in the background as Billy's shot I

24:36

believe is a core them as twenty with answer

24:38

every goal synthesizer so I I I believe in

24:40

that video they talk about how he did like

24:42

literally everything and it's just like it's the attention

24:45

to detail shows and so many little things to

24:47

like. the I'm. The. Have Sex and

24:49

The Controller Vibration: There's like specific vibration

24:51

signatures for different options that are young

24:53

and stuff are just things that like.

24:56

You. Know, as you don't even you don't even

24:58

like consciously pay attention to, but they make a

25:00

difference on a subconscious level. Things like feel happy,

25:03

glee different as a tightening i'm thing on Seal

25:05

team deck so I don't know if I he

25:07

got any of that. Ah, interesting, probably? I don't

25:09

know. Yeah. That's

25:12

about. The As the only other

25:14

thing I want to say is that I I I.

25:17

Went. Pretty deep into the mysteries and decided

25:19

that I had had enough and was like i

25:21

just wanna see how deep the rabbit hole goes

25:23

and just spoil myself And I think this game

25:25

has maybe the more secrets of the deepest secrets

25:27

of any video game ever made. potentially. Ah

25:30

I. I know that's a bold statement but

25:32

holy shit as when it wasn't long ago

25:34

and I've also I had all the stuff.

25:36

I agree this is that eat during a

25:38

maybe like an animal well I say I

25:40

say they are So far as as far

25:42

as the Rabbit Helga a rabbit hill. The.

25:44

Rather hell read the whole study lead

25:46

us that restaurant that's what they show

25:48

that would have now that bizarre the

25:51

rabbit hell they they would have made

25:53

way more money would have my four

25:55

oh my god Sergei Toot Toot Excited

25:57

to revisited if I had as well

25:59

myself on how deep Tunica says that

26:01

maybe in other potential candidates. These are

26:03

sort of the type of mysteries that

26:05

like and not one player but rather

26:07

all players are going to have to

26:09

contribute the acted to uncover. Okay here

26:11

as I think my last point out

26:13

and I and I know like we

26:15

sound like a Brac broken Records wanna

26:17

talk about these games and not m

26:19

spoil them my indic a last week

26:21

there's always something right I but I'm

26:23

with you guys like I feel like

26:25

edu kind on a explain to my

26:27

see this game away am what I

26:29

do like though is that the just

26:31

almost because of the sort of alien

26:33

nature of the world and I dominus

26:35

extraterrestrial I just didn't in I'm in

26:37

a bizarre dreamlike vibe of this strange

26:39

little place am. That. That

26:41

that it allows them to be

26:43

super esoteric with the. Like.

26:46

Tools you guess? Like the tools

26:48

you get to. you know, This

26:51

isn't like a Metroid Vanier were like.

26:53

you get the right key more you

26:55

get like the double jump. Like the

26:57

double jump in this game is a

27:00

weird concept. The you know the gun

27:02

in this game. Is. It's own

27:04

weird concept and then to Germany's

27:07

points like you, the ways in

27:09

which they're used are often. Does

27:12

often ways of using them the you

27:14

never thought of and the game you

27:16

know does a great job of basically

27:19

nudging you in a direction of like

27:21

now try this shit or like accidentally

27:23

making you do something. one of those

27:25

tools are they like a lot I

27:27

could do that with this thing am

27:30

and it's just so confident like it's

27:32

such a weird game but it's so

27:34

confident in it's design am and yeah

27:36

I it's a it's a weird special

27:38

Loathing. The.

27:41

The feeling I gave me was am. I.

27:43

Felt like I was playing linked to the Past

27:45

again the first time. In a weird way I

27:47

feel like as as much as this is a

27:49

better idea I feel like spiritually this is like

27:51

an old school Zelda game. Yeah

27:54

I don't have to. The killing of discovery the ceiling

27:57

of new tools like of figuring out what new tools

27:59

do and out. Or am I don't know I just I

28:01

kept feeling like I was playing like linked to the bass for some

28:03

reason I just get pop into my head. See. If

28:05

any of our thoughts on a on a how

28:07

well as a questions frank know yeah I played

28:09

maybe an hour other and I was happy because

28:11

ways I'm here like puzzle game like I on

28:14

on on the patience for i don't once you

28:16

but like I feel like I was making steady

28:18

progression and then yeah like any good measure advantage

28:20

like you they keep feeding you new items that

28:22

completely like receive like oh way okay I can

28:24

go back and do this thing like. the

28:27

alec one item my guy with is so funny they

28:29

get my to use the it everywhere to see what

28:32

would happen with a no regard this as to and

28:34

that yeah the the. Aesthetic of it is

28:36

so com it's all a blue and purple

28:38

it's very of four years so it's vehicle

28:40

so gambling on Ps five it does have

28:42

the have the exceed back like that which

28:44

feel so good it's very yeah yeah very

28:47

chill the blaze sorry like a be I

28:49

was intimidated like. Is. It's gonna be

28:51

too obsessed with so forth and said he

28:53

and it's got a map so you can

28:55

see which which corners as it and then

28:57

like on are measured on the others to.

28:59

It's great the I see haven't I haven't

29:02

them all man okay to do that too

29:04

and an alley that you're gonna need to

29:06

at a certain sound system down and it

29:08

go for the unwieldy yes is available on

29:10

Playstation, Five P, C, and Switch I believe

29:13

as well as though right now on steam

29:15

for twenty five dollars. It's gotta say about

29:17

the moments for the next. Couple

29:19

of days for next week. Actually, who

29:21

had just ten? ten percent of am?

29:24

Yeah of I'm playing on steam

29:26

dotcoms. Answer as a great little

29:28

steam deck. Nighttime games Real real

29:30

real real. It's weirdly cozy game considering

29:32

it is he like cerebral unchallenging

29:34

like it's not a little scary

29:36

scary at times. Yes, Soviet is

29:38

everything. On the like

29:40

those are gonna go on asthma. Tongue

29:43

pounds. Do it. Again,

29:53

that is very gaudily though. I would

29:55

you be willing. Frank is a little

29:57

kitty big city and this one the

29:59

same as last week from Double Dagger

30:02

Studios. It's out on basically everything yes,

30:04

G Force now players. You can also

30:06

enjoy the Katie Big City. How much

30:08

of this have you played Frank Halle

30:10

So I beat it's but then like

30:12

I did the main objective but they're

30:14

still like it feels like fifty percent

30:17

again to still explore and and playoffs.

30:19

I would say maybe. Maybe. Maybe

30:21

maybe five to six hours of it.

30:23

And. Yeah. I I am very

30:25

surprised I know anything about it but it

30:27

was on Dame pass and like sure I'll install

30:30

this beautiful and it's basically an untitled well

30:32

as the untitled goose game but you're a cat

30:34

but the thing that that sells a year and

30:36

a Japanese city it's straight I'm like Japan

30:38

and like oh my god see have like the

30:41

family mart or whatever that that the op

30:43

than the knock off. Like

30:45

convenience stores their their salaryman walking raziq

30:47

and you can trip over. The premise

30:49

of the game is your cat. You're

30:51

knocked out of your highrise apartment buildings,

30:53

fall down any just have to explore

30:55

and get back. ads. It

30:57

feels like the one giant Tony Hawk

30:59

level A First I was sitting around

31:01

like yours. Objective: That's like find of

31:04

like underground though yes turn out that

31:06

about the other Yeah yeah no exactly

31:08

get you tube you either you meet

31:10

like different animals that you meet A.that's

31:12

like I live There's no. Their.

31:14

Text bubbles there's no again will cross and

31:17

like but like. That's where I

31:19

imagine they'll sound like that is me to decamp

31:21

like I've lost my for Duckling. Go find my

31:23

for Ducklings and I'll teach you how to deal

31:25

of the of I'll give you a festival that

31:28

you climb higher or whatever and so like Wander

31:30

around and and one mission is like there's of

31:32

Duckling playing a street by. Fear certain that the

31:34

darker arcade cabinets but it's all like is in

31:36

the arcade cabinet that the all the oldest republic

31:38

or to the like ducks the to see like

31:41

the little like sight gag like that and it

31:43

does things like I'm not leaving until this until

31:45

this like video and but it's like that attracts

31:47

mode on the arcade. Machine as a half the

31:49

so as the cat you have to find

31:51

in like unplug the arcade machine so you

31:53

just the cat causing chaos he could not

31:55

pass off buildings you can like mess up

31:58

a painter softly do trip people over. Like,

32:02

it's really gentle and charming, and it's

32:04

one of those things like... It also

32:06

kind of feels like you're playing Super

32:08

Mario Odyssey, where you can just walk

32:10

around and, oh shoot, that is an

32:12

objective, or little secret, um, yeah, little

32:14

secret objective things to collect, and it's

32:16

just a giant playground or sandbox, and

32:18

that's why I'm like, I beat it,

32:20

but the in-game has like a... Yeah,

32:23

like an objective lock, and there's so many

32:26

little things to do and collect, and it's

32:28

really charming, and I'm just totally surprised by

32:30

it. Yeah, I've played maybe two hours of

32:32

this, um, with my daughter. It's

32:35

a real like, sit down with your kid

32:37

and play sort of game, she's telling me

32:39

what to do, um, very much in the

32:41

wholesome games thing, like, to me this is...

32:43

it's not a kid's game, because the objectives

32:45

are kind of probably a little bit too

32:47

hard for a kid, maybe, I don't know,

32:49

or there's a lot of like, precision

32:52

platforming in it, because you're, you know, a

32:54

cat trying to climb high and get, you know,

32:56

get up high and jump high, and, you

32:59

know, sort of get access to

33:01

certain stuff that way, and you're doing a

33:03

lot of like, light objectives, like, yeah, collect

33:05

25 shiny things with the pigeon, or, you

33:08

know, one of the cats wants you to

33:10

knock over a bunch of jam jars that

33:12

are in this lady's shop, you have to

33:14

climb up top, and yeah, literally like, left

33:16

trigger and right trigger are swash in

33:18

both directions, and so you're doing

33:20

a lot of like, the cat's just kind of going

33:23

meh, and knocking something off, and then it

33:25

like smashes, and people go

33:27

crazy, yeah, it's like,

33:29

to me it feels like a good game

33:31

pass game, probably, it's 25 bucks, same thing,

33:35

10% off at the moment, until May 23rd, I guess that's

33:37

the way you just do things on Steam these days, and

33:40

yeah, it feels like, it feels... what's

33:42

the word? I don't, I'm trying not to be disparaging here,

33:44

because I think it's in keeping with the

33:47

vibe of the game, it's not like, it's

33:49

the production values are appropriate, you know, the characters

33:51

don't speak, they don't really have faces either, which

33:53

I guess cats probably don't even recognize, but I

33:55

don't know if they recognize faces or whatever, but

33:57

that may be that as part of the game.

34:00

of it, you know, the lighting in

34:02

it is pretty sort of lo-fi and

34:05

the gameplay and the controls are sort of feel

34:07

that way as well. It feels a little

34:09

bit of a 3D platformer throwback

34:11

kind of thing to it. But

34:14

yeah, it's very sweet and

34:16

charming and yeah, I don't know. For

34:19

some reason I get vibes of like maybe it's

34:21

the setting or the art style, but like Katamari

34:23

and stuff, it kind of gives me a little

34:25

bit of a feeling of just like fucking around

34:27

and having fun and exploring this world.

34:29

They have like lots of mini objectives like

34:31

there's like soccer goals around and balls that

34:34

you have to hit into them and you'll

34:36

get extra prizes. It's very self-aware and funny

34:38

and you know the run button is zoomies,

34:40

you know, because you're just a little kitten

34:42

who gets too much energy or whatever. Yeah,

34:45

I don't have all that much else to say

34:47

about it. You guys got any questions for us?

34:51

How does it compare to Stray, another tag

34:53

game that I've met? Oh yeah! I

34:56

bounced off Stray. What about you, Frank? Yeah, Stray

34:58

was like too moody and like a bummer. I

35:01

mean like okay, it's high production value, people liked it, but

35:03

I was like I want to play as

35:05

a cat. I don't know, it was just like a

35:08

bummer. But I didn't play much of Stray. I feel

35:10

like Stray was also pretty hyper linear. I mean I

35:12

know like there was side quests you talked to, it

35:14

was like no, you have to go here, go here.

35:18

Little kitty big city is just go wherever, it's

35:20

fine. Like you are gated a little bit, but

35:22

then like you do a few objectives and

35:24

then you really do have a like Zelda

35:26

stamp in a meter as you're climbing. You

35:28

learn how to climb vines is like the first gate

35:30

that gets you after the tutorial zone and then you

35:33

hunt down like four or five fish, like pieces of fish

35:35

and then each one you eat you can climb higher and

35:37

higher so you can explore. But yeah, no, you can go

35:39

any direction, it really doesn't matter. That's why I was like

35:42

when I beat the game it was like oh no, no

35:44

I'm not done with this, what the hell? Like

35:46

it's where as Stray it's like no you have to talk to this robot here and

35:48

then go across here and it was just. But now

35:50

after playing little kitty big city, maybe I do want

35:52

to go back to Stray, but I for whatever reason like

35:55

Because of how unserious this game was, I

35:57

liked it more than Stray. Yeah, I'm with.

36:00

Frank is. There was something about the linear nature

36:02

of Stray and maybe it was because of of

36:04

the opening. I don't think I got past the

36:06

first two hours and Stray am. But.

36:08

I have I made he was more a

36:10

linear and then because it was more story

36:12

focused or whenever bus am they're pretty light

36:14

on the story. On this one it's frame

36:16

was just go fuck around and that's that's

36:18

why I get the francs sort of Tony

36:20

Hawk A and me saying it was more

36:22

like underground is it feels right? Because it's

36:25

it is. It's one of those levels were

36:27

it's like oh there's a bunch of like.

36:29

You've. The eve just get plunk down and

36:31

lot the level and you have to go

36:33

explore in every direction and that's left. release

36:35

open down as well because you're getting so

36:37

much reversal in this thing am. And

36:39

I just feels more. Enjoyable

36:42

and free and so you know expressive then

36:44

than single player platforming in enemy and I

36:46

just I don't and it it's not. It's

36:48

not something this I didn't care but this

36:50

I don't care about story lot of these

36:52

and give a shit about the for and

36:55

a guy came out and to fucking cat.

36:57

It's a cat. My dad died. You want to

36:59

go? That's the fucking story. That's the real story.

37:01

Nothing could be realer than that. Yeah, oh yes.

37:04

it does kind of seem like I'm I don't

37:06

know much about payment as far as I can

37:08

gather. Little giddy big city kind of seems like

37:10

what people. Would. Want out of the cat

37:12

game to stand on it's face like. I

37:15

can I give them was like our you play to gabriel

37:17

like a cat in a city. I. Feel like

37:19

this is what ninety nine percent of people be

37:21

like all night. And so it's like relaxing and

37:23

cool. and there's like weird little America things they

37:25

do. I. Wonder because I got this Strays

37:27

incredibly successful game. Yeah I guess what? As I

37:29

just looked on steam it has like a hundred

37:32

and twenty three thousand reviews. Yeah we're hoping. you

37:34

know know say was very popular I just imagined

37:36

like when someone says like on like a cat

37:38

you're like a cat little cat locker. As a

37:40

big city I get most know immediately imagine little

37:43

keeping Well it's very good as a point where

37:45

stray becomes that like straight the as you get

37:47

into the neon cities. I think that's where it

37:49

it kind of the you guys are right it's

37:51

very linear but I don't get hit. It's stride.

37:54

I enjoyed it but I think it hit it's

37:56

stride. When you get into the the bigger areas

37:58

that are more open and you do lot about

38:00

cats stuff like it is a lot of not

38:02

things over this contextual moments. The platforming isn't as

38:04

freeform his little kitty big city like you are.

38:06

very contextual jumps. Wait for the lead to say

38:08

x on it and then press x to jump

38:10

to the eggs marker. Be

38:12

as a lot of like I think the point

38:14

in stray that people tend to like it more

38:16

are yeah when you get to the first big

38:18

neon area as like another city you go to

38:20

eventually are like smaller. Couple

38:23

of blocks. And when

38:25

you're in there and you get to explore and

38:27

mess with stuff and solve puzzles and help people

38:29

are not help people I'm a robots I guess

38:31

is it and are. it opens up and I

38:33

feel like you get what you guys are liking

38:36

out of little kitty big city but it's not

38:38

that bummer. Dystopia. Narrative. That

38:40

goes along with it that that I

38:42

feel like china hampers the mood where

38:44

it sounds a little kitty Big City

38:46

is a lot more like fun and

38:48

like lottery. it's huge mess with the

38:50

arcade machine, knocked a fruit over instead

38:52

of like scan up overthrow this this

38:54

robot overlord who's control the whole world.

38:57

Illegal. yeah did Jeremy that. I guess

38:59

the I agree from the perspective that

39:01

like stray as a subversion and little

39:03

kitty Big City feels like yeah we

39:05

had years ago. You had imagined when

39:07

a cat game would look like right?

39:09

probably. Vi yeah yeah yeah yeah City Bear If

39:11

I was going to play a game I probably

39:13

over afraid because I'm a yeah morose and mukhabarat

39:15

and I don't know if I were to play

39:17

this had a not been something i was like

39:19

oh this is great for my get me to

39:21

to knock around with the know it's lost some

39:24

it's upsetting the world on fire but it's a.

39:26

You know to goes wholesome. Fun!

39:29

Time, you know? It's it's. It's got the

39:31

laughs as got. It's got good vibes

39:33

doing athletic any big city. Your final

39:36

next box of data on. Oh.

39:39

But. Also been on next. What's that if

39:41

game Pacific and it was on gave us

39:43

and them a nice your time That's. You.

39:45

Gotta so much Hackers was an got

39:47

amis that's dogs are wondering. What's

39:50

your favorite? I was your favorite Super little hot

39:52

Frank I think I I think I land on

39:54

a ladybug hat but the the i basically like

39:57

you get you find different hats and then he

39:59

can also there. The machines operated by crows

40:01

and you give crows shiny to give you

40:03

more little hat support odds I think yet

40:05

like an apple a frog hatley like there's

40:07

so many one think have collectively are gonna

40:09

go back. Gonna do like more. Like.

40:11

Play of it and and do an achievement sleep on

40:13

it but in my daughter when i me take the

40:15

banana costs. About

40:17

that up top amount of the

40:19

orchid around am air from cats

40:22

the cats Suzanne the Enemy of

40:24

guts crows croak on for a

40:26

game as also last week or

40:28

can last week man last week

40:30

was a rid of murders crow

40:32

earth dad jokes or via video

40:34

games. this one is nos a

40:36

Metroid Vinny or or a cat

40:39

game. it is in fact am.

40:41

I don't know what we call these

40:43

Jeremy Jane games such as it's imagine

40:46

if somebody had made Final Fantasy seven

40:48

was it was set in Resident

40:50

Evil. That's what I'm getting from the

40:52

screenshots. I've not, they grow contrary I

40:55

am ill equipped add to talk about

40:57

us bus at presumably are good

40:59

friends Jeremy Jane is because he completed

41:01

as what the fuck is grow Gods

41:04

right? Yeah Crow Country is this game

41:06

have been following for a while.

41:08

The developer posted screenshots of work in

41:11

progress. Our assets for me be like. To.

41:13

Plus years ago on and was into lead stricken by

41:16

exactly what you said which is that it? It looks

41:18

like it's taking kind of the like. Like.

41:21

Very like geometric primary emily blocks in

41:23

circles, seeps of people in Final Fantasy

41:26

like super low poly ah and updating

41:28

that looks a little bit but transpose

41:30

the under survival horror which is a

41:32

really good formula else I even that

41:35

alone was will Gabi interested. but obviously

41:37

a survival horror game is very tricky

41:39

thing to pull off it's it's a

41:42

genre that has been done to death

41:44

is a lot of. A.

41:46

Lot of people that have like moved on from the

41:48

older styles arrival our and how they prefer more and

41:50

like. Dead. Space or like Alan way

41:52

to and I'm like the third person. Did. The

41:54

gears of war of survival. Worth. Gears

41:57

of Horror, Gears Of War. So

42:01

Crow Country is. It's.

42:03

Interesting. I is. It

42:05

plays much more like an old Resident Evil

42:07

but sabbatical. yeah. kind of reminds be more

42:09

of an old Silent Hill game which I've

42:11

that's like of. It's kind of a beautiful

42:13

marriage of the to anyway because it's a

42:15

kind of takes the things that I like

42:17

for me either franchise in their Olds installments

42:19

and. And. I and I'm married. Mary's

42:21

them Together in this new form but

42:23

I'm guessing it's as rivalry game set

42:25

of like an asymmetric perspectives are you

42:27

can rotate the camera which is cool

42:30

because since everything has this very like.

42:33

Low poly weird like hyper geometric shape

42:35

to at some it looks like it

42:37

should be fixed. Camera to be able

42:39

to rotate the camera around the environments.

42:41

Feals a Ira if he felt novel

42:43

for the entire run. Twelve The Gateway

42:45

Ike I guess because in games like

42:48

Final Fantasy Seven I think a lot

42:50

of those were pre generated render exactly

42:52

mass asset they were it's role models

42:54

that were being rendered they were they

42:56

were models that had been rendered and

42:58

scouts sex your eyes you know placed

43:00

onto the world. Yeah it like pulls.

43:02

Off the pre rendered look very well for not

43:05

being pre rendered which is very cool but it's

43:07

a is so year like of your agent Mara

43:09

for us to pull up in your car. It's

43:11

very light on the story at the beginning but

43:13

as it goes on I think the story was

43:16

actually really good. And.

43:18

Your kind of like trying to solve

43:20

this mystery at an old abandoned theme

43:22

park called Crow Country. A Crowd: Oh

43:24

a theme park with all these kind

43:27

of like sub Lansdale. There's like an

43:29

aquatic beam thing and there's always different.

43:31

Like fun theme park beams. And.

43:34

It's like it's interesting because

43:36

it's. it's ice i

43:38

thought it was gonna be like a bit

43:40

cheesy horror game just is it has kind

43:42

of acute the art style and like the

43:44

big crow mask africa country is kind of

43:47

cute and stuff i actually there were some

43:49

good scared of this game is it an

43:51

illegal it does get like as much as

43:53

the i sell is gonna qc it and

43:55

has like fucked up lookin monsters it's thematically

43:57

very dark and yeah i mean there was

44:00

a moment where something pops out of the

44:02

vents in the first 20 minutes that I

44:04

it's like it got me good. So yeah,

44:07

it's the thing that I think is most notable about this

44:09

game. The thing that I think is worth talking about is

44:11

that a lot of survival horror

44:13

revival revival horror

44:15

games of the last like five years or whatever kind

44:18

of take the genre to try to do something

44:20

radically different with it. So like Homebody and signalis

44:23

are both games that bear a striking resemblance to

44:25

old school survival horror, but they do something so

44:27

radically different that you're like, oh wow, this is

44:29

like a really new flavor of survival horror game.

44:31

Crow country to me feels like it could have

44:33

come out in 1999. And like it feels

44:37

like a game from that era. It

44:39

obviously has like quality of life things that

44:41

a that a new survival horror game should but it it

44:44

feels so authentically of that era that I

44:47

really appreciated that about it. It wasn't trying to be

44:49

like and look how different we are. Not

44:51

that I mean, I really do like that about Homebody and signalis,

44:54

but it was refreshing to have a game that's just like a

44:56

PS one survival horror game straight out. What

45:00

does it do? Does it do anything? I've only watched

45:02

videos of it and stuff. And obviously one aspect that

45:04

does make it feel very modern is the fact that

45:07

you can rotate the camera. Something else

45:09

that I've seen is obviously this combat in this game. How

45:12

much is it like Resident Evil where you're

45:14

like, I'm most scarcity. And then in terms

45:16

of its modernness,

45:20

it seems like there's sort of like

45:22

you can use environmental stuff maybe to

45:24

help in the combat as well.

45:26

Yeah. Yeah. There's like there's like power boxes

45:28

and explosive barrels and stuff in the environment

45:30

that you can shoot. So there's kind of

45:32

like strategic decision making about when to use

45:34

those and luring enough enemies close

45:37

to them that they're they're they're

45:39

worth using. Yeah. As the game

45:41

goes on, the game also adds

45:43

more enemies. So it was

45:46

an interesting thing where like in in Resident Evil

45:48

remake, if you kill zombies and you don't burn

45:50

them, they come back as like

45:52

what are they called? Redheads or something? I can't remember it.

45:55

I am like Crimson head Crimson head. Thank you.

45:57

That's fucked up, man. Yeah. I

46:00

believe they're called gingers. Yeah

46:02

first we have the you know, they they

46:05

you can't knock them out with them with

46:07

prescription medication Apologize

46:17

to all of our red headers Anyway

46:22

The Crow country does like an interesting twist on that

46:24

or it's not about like burning the corpses of enemy's

46:26

you defeat But it is about picking

46:29

your battles in which environments you clean up because as

46:31

the game progresses they add more and more enemies So

46:33

if you're if you're not doing combat as the game

46:35

goes on It's like doing a run where you're like,

46:37

oh shit. I'm really low on ammo I better not

46:39

fight anyone but you haven't been cleaning enemies up all

46:42

of a sudden you're running through like like

46:44

hordes of So

46:46

that was like that's like a fun interesting twist on

46:49

the survival horror kind of like difficulty ramp up that

46:51

I really liked Interesting yeah,

46:54

it doesn't run into the Resident Evil one

46:56

problem of okay these these zombies are too

46:58

easy now Here's some lizard man. Yeah Yeah,

47:02

exactly Yeah, it uh,

47:05

it does do it is very much like the Resident

47:07

Evil style of combat though Where it's like you stand

47:09

and plant and then you could aim like up and

47:11

down left and right But it does

47:13

have kind of like a little reticle that shows where the

47:15

where like the ray cast from the gun is

47:17

currently hitting So at least it like indicates to

47:19

it's a cuz sometimes you play old survival horror

47:21

games and it's like I can't fucking tell If

47:23

I'm like it like I'm playing silent. Yeah three

47:25

right now and sometimes I just like can't tell

47:27

where my god is pointed Call

47:31

it raycast Sighs

47:36

good tactical brother. Yeah,

47:39

I also have to tell an aside In

47:42

playing a silent hill 3 recently in all of the silent

47:44

hill games You obviously there's like the real world and then

47:46

there's the other world. We're just all like fucked up In

47:52

the beginning of Silent Hill 3 you're in one environment

47:54

and then you go to the other world version of

47:56

it But the map for the other world version of

47:58

it is the same map so you get the map

48:00

in the regular version it carries over I did

48:03

not get the map and so I had

48:05

to play the first like two hours of Silent

48:07

Hill no with no fucking map which is it

48:09

was it was one of the most torturous experiences

48:11

in my life anyone who's not played a Silent

48:14

Hill game basically you're constantly looking at the map

48:16

because it tells you which doors you have opened

48:18

which ones you have not opened and which rooms

48:20

there are left to oh my god I had

48:22

a similar experience at Animal Well where when I

48:24

was when I started playing it again I I

48:27

wasn't sure if it had retained

48:30

my save game from the previous

48:33

latest version I had played and I got super confused

48:35

because I played a bunch of it like a month

48:37

they sent out the keys for ages ago and then

48:39

I picked it up again about a week and a

48:42

half ago and I could not remember if this is

48:44

progress from when I played before whether or not and

48:46

then I couldn't remember if I got in the map

48:48

because I couldn't find the map wouldn't work I was

48:50

pressing all the buttons and the map wouldn't work so

48:53

then I was like I think I remember where the map was

48:55

but I could did I is it possible to get this far

48:57

in Animal Well without having the fucking

48:59

map unlocked and I like eventually just

49:01

capitulated and went to a youtube thing and went where

49:04

the fuck's the map like just show me where the

49:06

map is and I just didn't know there was

49:08

a button on my steam deck there I had the

49:10

map I just I didn't realize it was fucking like

49:12

that like the back button that's on the xbox there's

49:14

like a little one for the steam and I was

49:17

like oh fucking idiot yeah it's the touchpad on ps5

49:19

so I was wondering what they would

49:23

map it to fuck no I'm just

49:25

a dumbass I can't believe that see

49:27

and I'm in my head I'm thinking like

49:29

oh Animal Well I bet it's almost impossible

49:32

to like not get the map probably whereas

49:34

in res in silent field 3 I feel

49:36

like that's the thing in modern qa they

49:38

would have gotten that but

49:40

back then they were just like I guess

49:43

yeah fuck it it was painful especially because you

49:45

can't go back from the other world because you

49:47

know where the other world so I was just

49:50

like I was running around I was looking for a

49:52

bottle of fucking bleach and I was just like running

49:54

out of ammo the game or like in real life

49:56

in my house yeah you had that had pushed him

49:58

over the edge that was it Yeah, I

50:00

had to go make mustard gas at my real house

50:04

But anyway, so crow country is um, you bought

50:06

some fat you can make some Here

50:08

there's a good recipe. I know a guy. Yeah But

50:12

yeah, highly recommend crow country. I I really enjoy I

50:14

played the entire thing the night it came out So,

50:16

um, oh cool. How long is it? It's uh,

50:19

I beat it in five But I left it running a few times.

50:21

You know, probably like four to five dude This

50:23

is the sweet spot animal well.

50:25

Yep little kitty big city in

50:28

the grow country Indica, can

50:30

we talk about indica first? Just a hot second?

50:32

Yeah. Just a little second. So last week I

50:35

I'm sorry. Is that are you done with crow

50:37

country? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I just highly recommend it

50:39

if you if you like old survival horror, this

50:41

is like it stands up there I mean,

50:43

I think it so far it's better than silent hill 3

50:45

and I'm liking silent hill 3. Hell. Yeah Nice

50:47

one crow country available on there's a demo also on Steam if

50:49

you want to check that out And

50:52

it's only 20 bucks with 10% off.

50:54

Would you believe it? Although that

50:56

offer will have ended by the time this podcast

50:59

is gone up. So Fuck

51:01

you, I guess hey the extra Sorry

51:06

everyone and FOMO Yeah,

51:09

overwhelmingly positive on steam as well

51:11

with a thousand reviews go support

51:13

indeed devs SFB

51:15

games who also made Tangle

51:18

tower and the mermaid mask which

51:21

are And

51:28

Yeah, I quickly want to mention a couple of games I I played Which

51:32

over the past week I completed minishoot adventures

51:35

that I talked about last week really really

51:37

enjoyed it It's probably right about six-hour mark

51:39

as well. Um, yeah, nothing else to

51:41

say kind of it ended the way I thought it did

51:43

and a I beat

51:45

the final boss and now I'm basically going around Doing

51:47

all the stuff that I hadn't done before really enjoyed

51:49

it If they made no one of those games I

51:51

pick it up in an instant super cool and

51:54

I finally be Ordered and people are true.

51:56

I finally won a round of Bellato Last

51:58

week. So I'm very excited about. The and use

52:00

of we I think it's interesting how

52:02

swiftly of a threat saw that. I'm

52:04

glad I am not a car got

52:06

your i mean my car guy. In.

52:09

Our. The So. Azalea

52:11

and an I'm proud of myself because I. I

52:13

eventually did it. I swear to God I

52:16

was my has a fucking sister and I

52:18

finally decided added stress All Gods. Yeah,

52:20

I had to like Salah. A

52:23

joker to get rid of the the

52:25

last. Boss. Finds that thing

52:27

on all the soreness there was. It was

52:30

a nightmare. am. I Loved

52:32

Indigo. Oh my Gods,

52:34

Indicate Grace Ice. What

52:36

a fucking weird game!

52:39

Of see love this ah I didn't

52:41

speak. I don't know anything about Russian

52:43

Orthodox as what it's like growing up

52:46

in our world that as a Catholic

52:48

it was very that lots of stuff

52:50

in there were absolutely adores. I want

52:52

to talk about as it sounds like

52:55

me and Jeremy are going to do

52:57

a special podcast for this one Saga

52:59

a Patron exclusive one am. Anyone.

53:02

else is of is is also

53:04

invited to come on but there

53:06

is a prerequisite for this podcast

53:08

which is am. Well. It's

53:11

it's sort of in dubious

53:13

federal legal territory am, but

53:15

we're going to. Enjoy!

53:17

In the Guy in all of the

53:20

different ways you can do that and

53:22

talk about that game. And.

53:25

And see had to discuss in see

53:27

how have made it is. Guy said

53:29

the started as a little bit me

53:31

now flirt know there is causing us

53:33

a maybe by the islands it's it's

53:35

less so I don't know what we're

53:37

gonna just sort of indulging at. So

53:39

that's the plan right now as to

53:41

do a patron is this is there

53:43

a podcast on indicates funded by you

53:45

phone or Indigo? much on a special

53:47

effects big thank you very much York

53:49

implicit am a two games I play

53:51

though to came at this week. Are.

53:54

Ab I'll quickly talk about the

53:56

braid anniversary edition so this is

53:59

a release. The parade which came

54:01

to we want our guess when break

54:03

him as far make us feel really

54:05

wanting when know any? Yeah, and I

54:08

appeals right. Sixteen seventeen years ago. Teeth.

54:11

As an ace was the one thing when a dead.

54:13

Mice. Works am at this

54:15

of course. Ah start Braves

54:17

started the video to him

54:19

such met secretly Zada Raspberry

54:22

who is indicated the movie

54:24

it's a along with that

54:26

as bad as Super Meat

54:28

Boy I am. Yeah. So

54:30

add this is a release of

54:32

Braids. It has updated graphics which

54:34

are you conflict between the two

54:36

of them which are definitely. At.

54:40

That better. But it's not like

54:42

a fucking realities that game already had

54:44

like a crazy page. really weird style

54:46

stuckey. very fond going between the to

54:48

do of them because am you get

54:50

to see. The. Sort of more

54:52

the artistic changes that they decided to do

54:54

rather than fidelity ones which I I I

54:56

think is actually very cool stuff. like a

54:58

bunch of like Will animations like to think

55:00

name's to is as the character and white

55:02

I summer minutes cards and embrace am like

55:04

now when he when you when he turns

55:06

left and right he will there is an

55:08

animation of him turning around it doesn't just

55:10

like as swapped select and rice at. The

55:12

reason why mentioning it though is because there

55:14

is a bunch new content in here. There's

55:16

some new levels but the lion's share of

55:18

the new content or at least for me

55:20

has been in I. Would say probably

55:22

the deepest and most technically rich

55:25

and developer commentary I have ever

55:27

seen of was am I think

55:29

this fifteen Hours of Death com

55:31

and train here and to be

55:33

facilitated they had to basically build

55:36

a. sort of that

55:38

i like a almost like back rooms

55:40

sort of level thing we you could

55:42

go round and is literally a room

55:44

that has like here's programming and design

55:46

and you go through a door and

55:48

then it's like okay we're in the

55:50

programming commentary area and you're in the

55:52

level and you're triggering the commentary kind

55:55

of like a like a valve game

55:57

or whatever and but sometimes the stuff

55:59

gets super So a little picture-in-picture

56:01

will pop up of like, oh, this is

56:03

like the code that I was using and

56:05

it's John Blow He also interviewed a bunch

56:07

of other people who worked on the game

56:09

and Traveled to do

56:11

it I believe the actual recordings of these

56:13

were so big that he's put it out

56:15

as a podcast as well Which seems like

56:17

at a certain point it's like you just

56:20

need an editor for this But

56:22

the stuff that I've looked at is

56:24

like it's crazy It's like very if

56:27

I would say more than anything this is aimed

56:29

at actual developers This

56:32

is aimed at people who want to

56:34

make games not just fans of games.

56:36

So sort of caveat emptor and within

56:40

That regard I guess but yeah, it's it's

56:42

it's a fairly it's it's wild I've never

56:44

seen dev commentary like this in a game

56:46

before it's very Interesting.

56:49

So yeah, I've just been like sort of listening to it

56:51

it is kind of a weird thing because like the dev

56:54

commentary will go on for a couple of minutes and you're

56:56

just like Sort of jumping around the

56:58

braid level. Well, you know, you can just put it

57:00

down almost Some on some of

57:02

them and another one's the little picture-in-picture comes

57:04

up and you can hit the right trigger and it'll go full

57:06

screen As well. It'll kind of show you and

57:08

so the design stuff I found very interesting. The

57:11

programming stuff is Too

57:13

technical for me. And then there's loads of

57:15

other bits like art and music and other

57:17

stuff Said I'd mentioned

57:19

that braid anniversary edition. I think they launched

57:21

on like practically everything. I got

57:23

it on Steam and on

57:26

iOS Android too Yeah,

57:28

yeah, so it works on iPads. It's

57:30

on switch. It's on PlayStation 4

57:33

or 5 the

57:35

whole shebang so On

57:38

the on the anniversary exactly.

57:40

Yeah, unfortunately, I do not believe

57:42

John Blow travels to to talk

57:44

to Soulja

57:47

boy and it's interesting because

57:49

like John Blow was a divisive figure. Yeah

57:51

back when Indie game the

57:54

movie came out And you ever

57:56

stop being a divisive figure. To be fair, Well,

57:58

I Think I Think his. The

58:00

the it the nature of is

58:02

divisive figure has now is difference

58:05

right as an as yet more

58:07

sort of their the the the

58:09

the and of aggressive political as

58:11

zero rantings I don't have a

58:14

savings than half an ounce on

58:16

social media am. He's by

58:18

the looks of things with basket Macys mostly

58:21

just been talking about braid anniversary edition, so

58:23

perhaps that's a good thing, but am. Yeah.

58:25

It's as sorry I am. It's it's

58:28

it's it's a project as. I

58:30

really love the original braised like I.

58:32

I really. This I was the

58:34

first are playing this and I was just like.

58:36

Oh. It's just feel so cozy it's it's

58:39

a silly game to replaying away because so

58:41

much of it is about figuring out logic

58:43

puzzles that. Pretty. Quickly can figure

58:45

out again if you've already done them Am.

58:47

But yeah, I don't know such a special

58:49

a game, especially in two thousand and eight.

58:51

Jesus didn't get indie games like that and

58:53

I was really really interesting. A German say

58:55

nodding there are you Found a bright eyed

58:57

plated way that I haven't played it like

58:59

since he came out. but I'm yeah, no

59:01

I, I, I think it's it's clever. Sniffs,

59:05

Everest And speak of clever clever, Gotta put

59:07

that on the docks up on this. It's

59:09

clever. Ask apostles can check

59:11

out our document on the witness which

59:14

we did years and years ago with

59:16

said at senior senior blow for say

59:18

would sounds like a time when I

59:20

mean i guess you could gollum thought

59:23

Cia or how kane fuckin as i

59:25

get cocoa the know that it'll si

59:27

senor blowing own. Am.

59:30

The other game that I was playing

59:32

so many games is a game called

59:34

Fabled. I'm. Wait, Share

59:36

his matter lords but it's

59:38

in like the fuck in

59:40

nursery rhymes. That's Donald. A

59:43

cute. It's. It's it's

59:45

Mana Lords is anything to do with

59:47

Fable the series is it pains me or

59:49

at it is. It is

59:51

net know he doesn't do the

59:53

sort of sign Christ doesn't do

59:55

the mid Atlantic accent or the

59:57

like them as Saigon as Air.

1:00:00

We're actually exactly it's not in a

1:00:02

as shit am, it's a city building

1:00:04

game at it. uses a lot of

1:00:06

the same mechanics. his monologues i'd maybe

1:00:08

I met i feel like I play

1:00:10

lousy of against but maybe I'm completely

1:00:12

ignorance to this whole like. But.

1:00:14

You build a building and then you assign. Families

1:00:17

to enter or people to like. Maybe that

1:00:19

that's something I'm just new to or never.

1:00:21

but it's the same type of thing you

1:00:23

doing a lot of research gathering. like those

1:00:25

games, you doing a lot of drawing the

1:00:28

roads are all that sort of stuff Am

1:00:30

there are positive and negative influences you build

1:00:32

the in and a certain area that's good

1:00:34

You billie coal burner Another A It's not,

1:00:36

it's not good. Honestly for

1:00:38

the first like two or three hours

1:00:40

is staying at basically just felt like

1:00:42

any other city building game and then

1:00:44

there is a there is a layer

1:00:46

of fantasy stuff to they say you're

1:00:48

gonna You know fantastical creatures are going

1:00:51

to come into as at the start

1:00:53

you decide whether you're a prince or

1:00:55

princess and there were suitors. Am I've

1:00:57

seen Giant Beanstalk? There's a lot of

1:00:59

like sort of. they're playing around the

1:01:01

having fun with vs with the fantasy

1:01:03

stuff. dragons all that sort of stuff.

1:01:05

Big castles am. I

1:01:07

to haven't gotten into any combat stuff. I

1:01:09

don't know how much or as I know

1:01:11

there is like trolls and stuff like Das

1:01:14

Posts am. yeah it's I think it was

1:01:16

in early access for a good while and

1:01:18

it's com and it's I currently thirteen. I

1:01:20

gotta make sure this is available before and

1:01:22

as if if you listen. As far as

1:01:24

a the. This. Coming Monday there's

1:01:26

thirty five percent off which is pretty

1:01:29

good. So it's only thirteen sixty four

1:01:31

at the moment. it's easy twenty one

1:01:33

box which honestly is a fucking steal.

1:01:35

his game of crazier than says she

1:01:37

bus am yeah arrange I guess it's

1:01:40

become my nighttime ah relaxing game. Fable

1:01:42

them nice and over on steam. really

1:01:44

a kind of reminds me of like

1:01:46

an Hd Eerie Master of Black and

1:01:48

White. Like. Us either at

1:01:51

the yeah characters and I'm like are they're gonna, they're

1:01:53

gonna call me names, they're gonna sing songs or something.

1:01:56

That's got a similar animation maybe with

1:01:58

some of those things as well. Am

1:02:00

cutesy. You know you spend a lot

1:02:02

of your time. So. The looking

1:02:04

down but you can zoom in their

1:02:06

pretty deep am yeah. like the I

1:02:08

like the feel of the building. you

1:02:11

know me a lot so much it

1:02:13

is games as is that tactile juice

1:02:15

of of you know what it's like

1:02:17

passing out how big something is? Why?

1:02:19

How much land I think Matter lords.

1:02:22

Is more of my style but my

1:02:24

lords is quite early early access kind

1:02:26

of feels the more I've played us

1:02:29

I've been like oh this is. This

1:02:31

these other that more time when he often favorites

1:02:33

with others the fabled hims their to as one

1:02:35

point. oh so. Am. Less.

1:02:37

Of Asper, Yeah. That's

1:02:39

almost all the games we have to

1:02:41

talk about. We have one laughed. At.

1:02:44

Which is perhaps. Am.

1:02:47

The most important one I have

1:02:49

heard the fiber wrestling. A

1:02:51

back before fire Pro Wrestling World came

1:02:53

out. I had friends am a member

1:02:55

Brendan Sinclair games bodies to be the

1:02:57

news editor was a huge Fire Bro

1:03:00

fan and a Curse men and a

1:03:02

bunch of those folks were am always

1:03:04

talking about it as being like sort

1:03:06

of like the secret best wrestling games

1:03:08

especially because of the mantle their customization

1:03:11

people they the was like a hard

1:03:13

core group of fans who spend years

1:03:15

and years of keeping our that game

1:03:17

obviously Back in twenty seventeen Am there

1:03:20

was a really. Service Fire Pro Wrestling

1:03:22

World Switch sort of brought it to

1:03:24

the masses and I think sort of

1:03:26

tried to retain a lot of that

1:03:28

modeling am a goodness I was part

1:03:31

of us as developed by i think

1:03:33

my favorite named video game developer in

1:03:35

the world. Every time I hear them

1:03:37

are fuckin' a. Spike Jonze Soft Co,

1:03:40

ltd. Spike. Jonze Soft

1:03:42

Co. Ltd. Apps a long as they're

1:03:44

the only. As. Company in the

1:03:46

world has a full stop and a comma

1:03:48

after their name on steam which is great

1:03:50

am. Far. From Us

1:03:53

and world's apparently. Also.

1:03:55

Has been to Dlc, Well. actually

1:03:57

i knew that because they did quite a lot of it when it

1:03:59

came as but there Is a stardom dlc was

1:04:01

this like when did you find this out

1:04:03

and were you like just completely over the

1:04:05

moon? Yeah So I remember like last

1:04:07

time around the holidays when there was like a steam

1:04:09

sale my friend brian and like cheap ass gamer They

1:04:11

tagged me in it like oh, yeah The fire per

1:04:13

resting is on sale also to start them dlc but

1:04:15

it was like the holidays where there were 6000

1:04:18

games that just come out and i'm like, okay Maybe later and

1:04:20

then I was I was in texas

1:04:22

and in some random used game store in

1:04:25

New new bronfels, which is like 50 minutes

1:04:28

outside of austin. It's where the the buckies

1:04:30

is They were just they used copy this

1:04:33

game and it's like this random ass niche

1:04:35

japanese game in texas So I bought the

1:04:37

physical and then I looked and

1:04:39

yeah the stardom deal all the dlc was on

1:04:41

sale So I got the stardom

1:04:43

dlc because yeah I've been obsessed with

1:04:45

stardom for like a year and they this is

1:04:47

the only official licensed stardom stuff in a game

1:04:50

um But even before the stardom stuff like so I started

1:04:53

playing fire for wrestling world and there's a mission mode Just

1:04:55

the tutorial and this is my my friends warn me about

1:04:57

this is like This playing

1:04:59

this game feels more like you're playing like

1:05:01

a japanese rhythm game Where the timing of

1:05:04

doing wrestling moves is so precise that at

1:05:06

first it seemed impossible It was

1:05:08

like what the hell is this game when you

1:05:10

start there's no ui it is just kind of

1:05:12

like isometric It's not like pixel art, but it's

1:05:15

it's it's almost like smoothed down pixel art But

1:05:17

the animation is very fluid if you look at

1:05:19

screenshots It just looks like almost it's like very

1:05:22

cheapy and simple, but when you see the game

1:05:24

in motion It's got the animations got weight the

1:05:26

sound effects are great but when two

1:05:28

wrestlers walk up you immediately lock

1:05:30

up and you have like It

1:05:32

there's like a super tight timing to it

1:05:34

of when you can input moves and either

1:05:36

you beat the ai or you don't And

1:05:39

you trade off moves and throughout the wrestling

1:05:41

match you have to like breathe. There's a

1:05:43

breathing button So you have to manage your

1:05:46

stamina and wrestlers will start breathing you hold

1:05:48

l1 to like to breathe which

1:05:50

is like crazy So so

1:05:52

the momentum of the matches is fun But then yeah,

1:05:54

I started doing the stardom dlc and the thing that

1:05:56

I was blown away by is like they had all

1:05:58

the stardom Girls do voices Acting so

1:06:01

like you're doing you're just wrestling and then you

1:06:03

hear them call out their moves and stuff And

1:06:05

it's like it's so surreal and so funny because

1:06:07

I've been watching this stuff for so long and

1:06:09

then just to see it Represented authentically in the

1:06:11

game because I've done like downloaded WWE 2k games

1:06:13

and you can download the wrestlers But it's all

1:06:15

like yeah fan creations and

1:06:18

modding, but they actually like scan their

1:06:20

faces and stuff so much So there's

1:06:22

there's a luchador wrestler I'm obsessed with

1:06:24

named starlight kid in in in stardom

1:06:26

and you can edit the wrestlers and I was like wait

1:06:29

a minute Can you take off her mask? What happens if

1:06:31

you take off clearly kids mask? So I went

1:06:33

in the editor and I took off her mask and there's just

1:06:36

the face parts that are masks recovered

1:06:38

are just now See-through so transparent words

1:06:40

like there's nothing behind Amazing

1:06:42

they protected her identity. I was like I

1:06:45

thought we solved the mystery But

1:06:48

yeah, the roster fire for us. I got all the stardom

1:06:50

girls, which again is funny because now Utami

1:06:53

hai Shishida and Julia have

1:06:55

left the company, but you can still play as

1:06:57

them in this so it's like cool It represents

1:06:59

a very specific time, but even on the other

1:07:01

side It has all the new Japan people so

1:07:03

like Kenny Omega is now an AW and

1:07:05

a bunch of other wrestlers But they're all in this

1:07:07

game It's like I played so many of the WWE

1:07:09

games my entire life So it's so cool to see

1:07:11

a Japanese game that actually has all

1:07:13

of the Japanese wrestlers and yeah I mean

1:07:15

the newest one came out yeah 20 2017-2019 But

1:07:19

there's also a DLC chapter written by Suda

1:07:21

51 hold on who? Yeah,

1:07:24

so Suda 51 originally directed and wrote one of

1:07:26

the one of the fire per us in games

1:07:28

for Super Nintendo and it's infamous

1:07:30

because I think at the end

1:07:32

of the one of the fire per wrestling

1:07:35

games the rest are like kills himself like

1:07:38

Like like his career is a failure. So he dies

1:07:40

like a downer and off ski movie Yeah, and so

1:07:42

now 20 years later He's written

1:07:45

a sequel we were playing at his protege and

1:07:47

the opening starts us like look America's

1:07:49

ripped off every good Japanese gimmick. We've had

1:07:51

which is true That's what the new dump

1:07:53

the NWO was a stolen gimmick that WCW

1:07:56

ripped off from Japan So the start of

1:07:58

the game is Suda 51 Wrote

1:08:00

it as some wrestling coach. He's like look Japan's been

1:08:02

you we used to be the best wrestling in the

1:08:04

business now We got to bring it back and it's

1:08:06

up on it's up to you So the story mode

1:08:09

is you're this wrestler who has to like restore glory

1:08:11

to Japanese wrestling and it's like it's

1:08:13

it's really cool again, it's a completely random game, but

1:08:15

I I picked it up at a used

1:08:17

game store in Texas and I'm really shocked

1:08:20

how good it is. How good it is.

1:08:22

I'm thing. Yeah I know. Yeah, did

1:08:24

you get bugged in there to stardom?

1:08:26

Yes I got They're

1:08:30

like 20 bucks each as well. Yeah, they're on sale

1:08:32

for like five. I would pay no, you know, I'd

1:08:34

pay I'd pay thousands of yen If

1:08:38

you're if you're just listening to this by the way

1:08:40

as this is a podcast Frank is wearing a stardom

1:08:42

hat as he says Oh, yeah For

1:08:46

the past five six and a stardom

1:08:48

sweater and the shirt is illustrated by

1:08:50

a stardom Oh my goodness, he's just

1:08:52

slagged out at the start. I want

1:08:54

to be invoices for this. All right Yeah,

1:08:56

I want to be the American brand ambassador for stardom

1:08:59

we need you know, I might go to a W

1:09:01

at the end of lot at the end of the

1:09:03

month in Los Angeles because Me

1:09:05

and she recall was a stardom wrestler and they're starting to

1:09:07

do like a cross promotion So she the fact that she

1:09:09

might show up I might buy take it for so, you

1:09:12

know, they should hire Oh, I feel like you

1:09:14

right you really not only do you have experience

1:09:16

in like community management and promotion stuff But like

1:09:19

I think you know more about stardom than any

1:09:21

other American boy. Yep The

1:09:24

other the other huge thing too I

1:09:26

was interested in so my favorite place

1:09:29

in the world is Kerakan Hall in

1:09:31

Japan like the holy site for wrestling

1:09:33

in fire pro wrestling. There's a venue called

1:09:36

Yuriken Hall So it's like yeah, they didn't

1:09:38

so it's Kerakan Hall is in fire pro

1:09:40

wrestling So but yeah, so it it

1:09:43

passes all the marks. It's very good Outstanding

1:09:45

love to see it games old

1:09:47

and new That's

1:09:53

pretty much everything I think is there anything else

1:09:55

on anyone's radar anything you guys been playing that

1:09:57

you haven't Gotten into. The

1:10:00

It: I haven't played enough of the bring

1:10:02

it Up Brennan still playing Hades. Odds you

1:10:04

on steam that either. I'll.

1:10:06

Do though there's of the fourth weapon you

1:10:08

unlock. basically turns the game in. The vampire

1:10:10

survivors across there. is it a lot yet?

1:10:12

either. It's all like it's up. It's

1:10:14

like you hit triangle. And you shoot

1:10:17

fireballs the spin around you. Also it's like

1:10:19

or will Now he is basically a vampire

1:10:21

survivor mode and he's of the conflict. Do

1:10:23

it. But like. It's. Such a unique

1:10:25

weapon and so I really love that would have been

1:10:27

my like I got to the the end of the

1:10:29

third world. Last. The last boss

1:10:32

can't beat it but I I got the

1:10:34

third world is in that weapon so axles

1:10:36

er en masse. Love being outside on both

1:10:38

of em I got. Indigo really took prefer

1:10:41

for arise I will yes I was all

1:10:43

a man. That game was kind of weird

1:10:45

as right of the I'm of it I

1:10:47

was like. If my wife is like

1:10:49

what the fuck you like your I guess

1:10:51

was use like planes on the behind me

1:10:53

and then right at the end than the

1:10:55

last seen as like turnarounds you guys Season

1:10:57

Four episode I smile oh my god and

1:10:59

like an hour lesson as I'm psyched I'll

1:11:02

grind like Iowa I'm still really her first

1:11:04

twenty minutes so on my family is as

1:11:06

if you I swear to god to go

1:11:08

check out the the quickest a quick lox

1:11:10

is a dead the first opening twenty minutes

1:11:12

of that game which yeah I got on

1:11:14

the i don't spoil that God that game

1:11:16

was that game was not boring though he

1:11:18

said us. A game is not a

1:11:20

boring game. I was a very

1:11:22

fucking weird. Great. Game

1:11:24

Am. There. Is also

1:11:27

a. Is. Or mini documentary.

1:11:29

I saw some couple of videos with

1:11:31

the developers. Who.

1:11:34

Were based in Russia I guess

1:11:36

and a know last and are

1:11:38

vehemently against the am illegal invasion

1:11:40

of Ukraine and they put out

1:11:42

a video about that as well

1:11:44

I guess or another time am.

1:11:47

But. I that and authoritarian mans. They're

1:11:49

just those games and also both

1:11:51

of them. are you ever? And

1:11:53

now I feel bad whoever that

1:11:55

member the lady at our podcast.

1:11:57

Who. Was talk or at as as. Who.

1:12:01

Came up and said. We. Should

1:12:04

do a documentary on. At

1:12:07

Eleven Bit Studios. And. I

1:12:09

was like oh do a documentary on

1:12:11

a publisher like a seems like you

1:12:13

know Now I get it because they

1:12:15

put I put those games, would like

1:12:18

to watch Three's Other and their boat

1:12:20

like very weird and very cool so

1:12:22

if she listening I'm apologies icing the

1:12:24

life Limits ideas in good work at

1:12:26

that's about. As for the see folks

1:12:29

at the games again we played Animal

1:12:31

well, Little Kitty, Big City, Crow Country

1:12:33

fabled I'm Braid anniversary edition, Fire Pro

1:12:35

Wrestling and then a brief mentions of

1:12:37

many shooter ventures. Block Throw in the car.

1:12:40

And file our prospects as Dear

1:12:42

Diary episode do is also a

1:12:45

up on the Dear Diary see

1:12:47

the unavailable of course on the

1:12:49

nuclear park arsenal as well Ends

1:12:51

in which I interviewed Dave Ashray

1:12:54

about New Blood Interactive and just

1:12:56

a lot of shot about publishing

1:12:58

and am sort of how Fox

1:13:00

things have been for indie dad's

1:13:02

and selling as and lots of

1:13:05

a really cool stuff they was

1:13:07

very i can is about and

1:13:09

the business dealings. Of of running

1:13:11

new blood and and one it's like

1:13:13

and other stuff going on a course

1:13:15

we have thus. Quick. Look

1:13:17

of in the Car Jane Dev episode four

1:13:20

I think is going up on Friday am

1:13:22

with the in the can so if not

1:13:24

up now it will be pretty soon after

1:13:26

the podcast on the weekend maybe goes up

1:13:29

on the weekend. Actually our hard work and

1:13:31

a bunch of other documentaries hyper light. Episode

1:13:33

three should be as. Maybe. On

1:13:35

Friday issues Friday's the request to mark which

1:13:37

one of those goes up am. if

1:13:40

it doesn't know the early next week

1:13:42

we are of course working on documentaries

1:13:44

on dredge as music and sound of

1:13:46

white bows and at war for to

1:13:48

swell among a bunch of other stuff

1:13:50

an exciting as well on the tape

1:13:52

side is i managed to get a

1:13:54

new beta com player a deck am

1:13:56

cost a bit but it didn't cost

1:13:58

as much as i was

1:14:00

worrying. There

1:14:02

is one tape deck that is costing thousands.

1:14:06

In the video I put up about the

1:14:09

preservation project, I mentioned that it was beta

1:14:11

cam tapes. I actually got that wrong. It

1:14:13

was this other type. The beta cam player

1:14:15

we had before was not really working. It

1:14:17

was delivering a fucked up signal,

1:14:19

and I could not fix it. Couldn't

1:14:21

clean the heads on the thing properly. The

1:14:24

beta cam thing is huge, just a massive

1:14:26

thing. You've got to unscrew so

1:14:28

much shit to get in there and do it. I

1:14:30

couldn't get it working. The new one

1:14:33

is super clean. It looks really

1:14:35

good. I'm getting some SDI converters coming so I

1:14:37

can get the best signal out of that, but

1:14:39

I tested it on S-Video. I

1:14:41

had two beta cam tapes that were sitting there. One

1:14:45

was Konami's E3 Presswall 2003.

1:14:49

On it it had the Metal Gear Solid

1:14:51

3 trailer, the really long one. It

1:14:54

looks so fucking good. I was like,

1:14:56

oh my god. It plays perfectly now,

1:14:58

which is great because I also have

1:15:00

that entire tape on VHS,

1:15:03

and it's the one VHS that's broken, that

1:15:06

I've run through and it's unfurled twice

1:15:09

in VHS players. I've been desperately trying

1:15:11

to fix the tape, but

1:15:13

I was like, if this one works, if

1:15:15

this beta cam tape is the same thing, but

1:15:17

in actual, I think beta is

1:15:19

beta 480i, I think. It

1:15:22

might be 720i. I'm not sure. No,

1:15:25

it has to be hired into 480i. What's

1:15:28

beta cam SP resolution?

1:15:31

Is it 720? It looks like it's 720. Then

1:15:34

the VHS is redundant, so that's kind of what

1:15:36

it is. And then the other one was Konami

1:15:38

2005 E3 Presswall, so it's

1:15:41

just full of fucking trailers. And it seems

1:15:43

like the beta cam tapes are mostly assets

1:15:45

made by studios, which is very exciting because

1:15:48

some of the tapes are not. A lot of

1:15:50

the tapes are just gameplay recorded by some video

1:15:52

game websites. Who knows? Who

1:15:55

could have any number of video game websites it could be? Don't

1:15:58

put me on the spot. So,

1:16:00

yeah, exciting stuff. We're going to have

1:16:02

a lot more very cool, older stuff

1:16:05

going up. I feel like we had a

1:16:07

lot of like sort of 2006, seven,

1:16:11

eight, nine, 10 stuff going up. And now this stuff

1:16:13

looks like it's going a good deal back, back to

1:16:15

like 2002 through maybe

1:16:18

earlier actually in that era. So that's,

1:16:20

that's really cool. That's the

1:16:23

podcast folks. patreon.com/Dokus, if you'd like to

1:16:25

support our work. Jeremy,

1:16:27

what are you doing for the rest of your week? Uh,

1:16:29

working on this documentary, working on

1:16:31

some game dev stuff, uh, cooking

1:16:33

up exciting things on, on both

1:16:36

fronts. Sick. Frank,

1:16:38

what about yourself? Legitimately still trying

1:16:40

to find a therapist in Southern California, which

1:16:42

seems impossible. It's hard to find a good

1:16:44

therapist. Right. But I feel hopeful. I feel

1:16:47

hopeful. But anyways, you got to find

1:16:49

out if it's the right one for you. If

1:16:51

you guys had interests, see

1:16:53

if they got the insurance. If your

1:16:55

insurance covers it, it doesn't just yet.

1:16:57

Just doesn't never does. That's

1:17:00

what I'm leaning towards, but yeah,

1:17:02

whatever. I'm still, you know, the fact that I'm

1:17:04

like, I also had the bike ride thought like,

1:17:06

Hey, looking for a therapist is so stressful. I'm

1:17:08

going to need a therapist. Hey, I'm

1:17:12

filling up my set list. When I see a therapist,

1:17:14

I got a whole like, Oh, Woody Allen. Yeah. Good

1:17:19

stuff. Jesse, what about yourself? Uh, we're going

1:17:21

to go see Hades town tomorrow. First time

1:17:23

seeing that musical. I'm excited for

1:17:25

that. Since Toronto. The Zinsky's Hades town.

1:17:27

That's right. They, no, no, actually, uh,

1:17:29

Greg Kasavin's Hades town. They brought it

1:17:32

back to the real now. Yeah. It's, uh,

1:17:35

excited for that. Can't wait. I haven't listened to any other

1:17:37

music yet. So I'm excited to just be like, I've

1:17:39

heard so many good things. Uh, and Lorelei

1:17:41

and the laser eyes comes out tomorrow

1:17:43

as well as of recording this, so

1:17:45

on Thursday, what is that? It's

1:17:48

a, it's a new puzzle game

1:17:50

from the studio. What are they called? Simogo,

1:17:53

um, who did sign our wild hearts.

1:17:57

Couple other things. Uh, it has been getting.

1:18:00

reviews it looks like assume you know you mentioned

1:18:02

251 Frank it looks like a 251

1:18:04

game looks like that like killer seven era style

1:18:07

of games so I'm very very excited for that one I can't

1:18:09

wait to play that I'm sure I'll talk about on the pod

1:18:11

next week among the other thing you go like

1:18:14

it does looks like it looks like

1:18:16

some grasshopper manufacturer bullshit it's been

1:18:18

by some oh go yeah okay

1:18:21

nice man too many

1:18:23

games so many games I

1:18:25

feel I have a feeling this is the

1:18:27

pre-kelly rush this is just you know we're

1:18:29

getting a bit of pre-kelly here the

1:18:33

first drip for pre-kelly keep

1:18:36

that one to himself hey man it's

1:18:38

all about the releases you know I mean

1:18:40

oh world though yeah I don't know I

1:18:42

have a feeling we're getting a bounty of

1:18:44

them here so don't panic folks I think

1:18:46

it usually does get a little bit slower

1:18:49

in the summertime yeah people are getting their

1:18:51

releases out of the way ahead of the

1:18:53

announcement of Dante's Inferno remastered I mean

1:18:56

people are literally

1:18:59

getting their editor because all that Assassin's Creed shit

1:19:01

came out today as well yeah that's right yeah

1:19:04

Frank I was gonna say there's so many boobs and Dontos

1:19:06

Inferno so if that gets announced I'm gonna be I think

1:19:08

there is a

1:19:13

certain look there is a certain a

1:19:15

thirsty side of video

1:19:18

games a lot of

1:19:20

whom are angry at stellar blaze who if

1:19:22

Dante's Inferno came out Oh would demand do

1:19:25

you remember all the weird stuff they did

1:19:27

when they're promoting that game oh yeah like

1:19:29

were they the ones rage people they

1:19:32

said they sacrifice a goat as well there was

1:19:34

a lot of like booth baby stuff going on

1:19:36

but I think they might have sacrificed a goat

1:19:39

at a at a level like how

1:19:41

the life poultry you know what you

1:19:44

know what yeah maybe the line has has

1:19:47

shifted that is one thing that's very weird

1:19:49

about a lot of these tapes is going

1:19:51

back and seeing promotional stuff

1:19:53

from e3s of past and the

1:19:56

objectification of women in this

1:19:59

industry was completely insane.

1:20:01

Like, just like absolutely, like,

1:20:03

it's not even, it was

1:20:05

the amount of it, I

1:20:07

think, it was so

1:20:09

commonplace that if you didn't have

1:20:12

booth babes, like, it was

1:20:14

like, why didn't you have them? Like, it's so, there's

1:20:16

been a couple of videos of going back and we've

1:20:19

had a bunch of the videos go up as well,

1:20:21

where it's just like, man, this is, and

1:20:23

especially the ones in Tokyo, actually, weirdly enough. Like, there's a

1:20:25

couple of tapes with TGS stuff in it, and you're like,

1:20:27

man, this is, it's, and

1:20:29

I even remember at the time thinking this

1:20:32

was weird. Like, tuning in from Ireland

1:20:34

and being like, why? Like,

1:20:37

it's weird when it's cars, and it's weird when

1:20:39

it's like, I don't know, what else is a

1:20:41

design, like, watch it, I don't know, whatever, this

1:20:44

whole thing used to be so much more, but especially a

1:20:46

video game, it just seems like, like,

1:20:48

why, why is this, is

1:20:50

this all because some marketing person saw

1:20:53

Lara Croft get popular, and now this is, we've had

1:20:55

to deal with 15 fucking years

1:20:57

of this, I don't know, anyway. Who

1:20:59

knows, I'll dig in the tapes for some more of

1:21:01

that good stuff. That's it,

1:21:04

that's the podcast, patreon.com/Notepad. Thanks for

1:21:06

listening, and we'll see you next

1:21:08

week, bye. Bye.

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