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0:31
Hello friends Welcome to episode One hundred and
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seventy Six of the Know club group have
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to stay while doing we have a bounty
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we have we have foraged in the wild
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so we have returned all four of us
0:43
this week at with their with with delicious
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routes from from from mother earth from the
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videogame Mother herself as some others have collected
0:49
some of the fruits of that the other
0:52
ones haven't some of his of collectors completely
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unique fruits. We're going to talk about a
0:56
whole bunch of games I'm just gonna say
0:59
them rifle jobs. You know we're going to
1:01
talk. Whereabouts are were animal? Well we're
1:03
talking a little bit. Little kitty big
1:05
city Crow country. Which. Is presumably
1:07
the region next to Little Kitty
1:09
big city fabled I'm which is
1:11
where they all live and breathe.
1:13
Anniversary Edition which doesn't fit into
1:15
this on fire pro wrestling world
1:17
which absolutely doesn't either. Am. Lots.
1:20
Of stuff to talk about and lots of people
1:22
to talk about them including a returning member of
1:24
the know club grow guys Jesse graduate go back
1:26
to show. Happy.
1:29
To be here. Excited to talk about kitties
1:31
and crows and everything. I've got my my
1:33
big basket of strawberries. That's what I collect.
1:35
The woman out for a giant this afternoon
1:37
did real away. Is this real Strawberries? Are
1:39
these made of strawberries? Because they don't fit
1:41
into the idiom that I came up with.
1:43
y twenty strawberries, Your glutes, your time of
1:46
the fruit, the forged fruits of illustrates there's
1:48
their eggs. I guess would be the thing
1:50
because I'm gonna talk about animal oil. so
1:52
I guess I got a Agliotti Reagan animal.
1:54
Well. That. Was shocking imagining found like
1:56
a the phantom a bushel and had eggs.
1:59
Frank and what's the best way to serve
2:01
eggs? Scrambled. Anything
2:06
else to grab some saw as as
2:08
as easy whatever. shell then sell the
2:10
house. Just mad just
2:13
before he says either of our own
2:15
known are they doing the Gordon Rewriting
2:17
scrambled for the like tell whether scrambled
2:19
eggs So the go to rehab little
2:21
dryer. And I
2:23
I I have no preference of food.
2:26
Ali ne bi Attenborough I've experienced that
2:28
the American scrambled egg is the dry
2:30
yeah like a back home scrambled egg
2:32
is a little bit. Of adapt.
2:35
Mean look at like the restaurant style
2:37
here like if you don't have a
2:39
lot of earth is is about assess
2:41
whether you've got on my it's monaco
2:43
really nice restaurant in my get them
2:45
wet eggs was you guys are even
2:47
like holiday in buffet eggs them like
2:49
you know the powdered eggs get first
2:51
thing in the morning when you crawl
2:54
out of your eighty dollar hotel worth
2:56
of grabbed some fucking to exit of
2:58
a bird's nest this above your hobble
3:00
and just toss of of and dry
3:02
amount real nice Terrific Derby Jane welcome
3:04
back What is your. Favorite bird. As
3:07
either bird Now ah of his
3:09
choice. Plugins. Are going to
3:11
be best man. Is. Probably the quail I love
3:13
of a little while we'll there he know
3:15
que. O. Either going to say because
3:18
you can be be no I will grill
3:20
quite I used to eat a lot of
3:22
well in fact the last boss i used
3:24
to eat like okay this is a very
3:26
short that weird story of back in the
3:28
day pre know club i had a business
3:30
partner that of his documentaries with and i'm
3:32
to celebrate again well done we would go
3:34
to sleep in oakland with that has like
3:36
live birds and you can pick weird like
3:38
guinea fowl and quail and it is the
3:40
the given to you and it's like fresh
3:42
bird and the reason we can vegetarian is
3:44
because they killed in front of you. And
3:46
I was so fucking promise that movie
3:49
wash must set up and was this
3:51
is like a lobster thing but what
3:53
a fucking bird yeah I mean it
3:55
was. it was awesome and the time
3:57
they didn't take in the back to.
4:00
Prepare and I was like this is
4:02
horrible effort he ran off with the
4:04
Us embassy date was that were you
4:06
sitting at like I like a big
4:08
wooden table and they just slammed the
4:10
bird down and shop that's had offer
4:12
of now. I would describe the vibe
4:14
as I'm like silent Hill Doctors room
4:16
is kind of. The violence is sold
4:18
for either. No lights it's a hey
4:20
listen if you're in singles out in
4:22
Oakland as you want some fresh be
4:25
it was in a single time it
4:27
was in general down a while to
4:29
get that's that's. I don't know
4:31
what at I don't know why worry either
4:33
why we expect address as nothing nothing about
4:35
this and that like this is a must
4:38
read active celebration and you're going to ask
4:40
if we wanna ride rob ya zynga town
4:42
less as it was my business partners idea
4:44
of what know never to the business results
4:47
as he stole from be so maybe he
4:49
wasn't a very trustworthy yell adviser and where
4:51
to get birds from that because he invested
4:53
all of your money and as fuck and
4:56
bird murder restaurant he has his the over
4:58
because he was really deep into. The bird
5:00
people are was called the Avery or something
5:02
like that and maybe will say that and
5:05
I bet there's more than one person is
5:07
how like a traumatic childhood I mean you'd
5:09
a dramatic adult experience there but like most
5:11
like bringing your kid or something then they
5:13
just like I'm a parent mommy. what was
5:15
the weirdest bird? the reselling there was an
5:17
all Quails sisters I now believe this is
5:20
real. This is Sam personally I you know
5:22
the specifics of the you'd like to see
5:24
and a fucking wet markets in in his
5:26
in as far and distant land but I
5:28
bought a no I haven't. Spoken mess up
5:30
man but I didn't like this was
5:32
within the realm of lint contains Molson.
5:35
Oakland is at times a ah another
5:37
another nation the I was just they
5:39
would have said like quail guinea fowl
5:41
was good now and the one that
5:43
I saw die that was the saddle
5:45
and that's like any birds a more.
5:48
started life as an activist the valley works
5:50
ah yeah don't we just like a wall
5:52
of weird fuckin birds as like everything else
5:54
seconds and stuff it serve you too can
5:56
get in the beach they didn't write it
5:58
up and put it in they're handed to
6:00
you like a
6:02
fucking clam chowder bowl they just like
6:04
I think
6:06
I actually found it let's
6:09
we can revisit this at the end of the this feels like
6:11
a kind of a horrible way to
6:13
open up podcast we revisit the end too
6:15
late now we're it's far too late we're
6:17
deep the battle pass holders can waste we
6:20
need to figure this out okay I believe
6:22
if I'm not mistaken it was I'm gonna
6:24
get sued if I say the name it's
6:26
a public it's it's a business it's what
6:28
they do I believe Saba
6:32
live poultry okay
6:36
okay that's what like they are
6:38
literally it says it on the
6:40
tin like that is that is not
6:42
they're not you buy five chickens
6:45
you get one free so
6:47
the chickens I'm not you know maybe this
6:49
is showing my own sort of ignorance
6:52
and and biases but like the chickens I'm
6:54
like yeah sure chickens yeah you eat a
6:56
chicken chickens are largely bred
6:58
for eggs and for for for
7:01
their meat and so I'm
7:03
not super maybe do you think it's
7:05
a chicken restaurant and you sort of
7:08
accidentally went like sort of animal style
7:10
off menu you know you eat one
7:12
of the fucking pigeons what's wrong with
7:14
this guy go to the staff chat
7:16
right now and you'll see how wrong
7:18
you are is this an auto-court and
7:20
our discord okay what am I what
7:22
Jess Jesse describe what you're seeing because
7:25
I haven't seen it's like
7:27
a it's a menu with all these
7:29
different animals most of them birds with
7:31
prices on them and you know buy
7:33
five get one free and then there's
7:35
just a rabbit as
7:37
one of the options If you
7:39
want to know what I do appreciate this
7:42
place that clearly is is the closest thing
7:44
you can get to a wet market in
7:46
America Having yeah like compulsory CDC guidelines for
7:48
COVID right next to this line that's like
7:51
do you want freshly cut up bird? They
7:53
have to though they don't want COVID 20
7:55
popping out of a lot of loose birds.
7:57
That's a good point Man what's starting. Well
8:00
you ever heard of Sabah live poultry
8:02
and it's like a documentary on Netflix.
8:04
The zooming in all young you buying
8:06
a chicken me buying a good he
8:08
has his get a newer guys rabbits
8:10
the version as well on the menu
8:12
pigeon receive age and my atlas my
8:14
had a full boyfriend fandom is feeling
8:16
at a deep massive pain or whether
8:18
you'd like to shoot picture of the
8:20
small doctors. My class you know is
8:22
very have like if a public like
8:24
valentine's day garlic the next field of
8:26
grass. Movie.
8:28
What's that middle of one Big Mercy?
8:31
Ducks be I heard the i Can't
8:33
oh mister or miss oh yes. And
8:35
the ones to the left about Stoker
8:38
that a name of a burden that
8:40
sucker sucker Smoke.soccer and know. That
8:43
size yeah they're like wow that sucker partridge
8:45
his it of name. This is literally just
8:47
like gave a. A picture of
8:50
like a by a poster on the
8:52
wall with cute pictures of animals. Out
8:54
of specifically birds and for some reason
8:56
one single robbers how much as and
8:59
fifty bucks or rabbit? Hole different
9:01
colored eyes. As for the rabbits? Yeah. Man
9:04
his arrival an hour ago and for the
9:06
Christmas dinner the same as a society gonna
9:08
be good if you take me there again
9:10
see the city the fucking kill the rabbit
9:12
have brought to you that a bloody brilliant
9:14
little hot shouldn't get Hands you have a
9:17
like i like us club. I
9:19
me they have a back room but
9:21
these dudes disease and prose. they'll kill
9:23
anything you want either assess pheasants or
9:25
big man bulls out there is a
9:27
brilliant person. The you know like they're
9:29
They're like read a page and zoc.
9:31
Just give me five minutes. Somebody runs
9:33
outside, What a mess! Up
9:37
easy to fame Seville I faltered. By the
9:39
way, they have three and five three point
9:41
five stars on Yelp. You know it's respectable
9:43
amount of star. one of the ones that
9:45
get minus one just based on their business
9:47
model immediately or I like says you're so
9:49
they're operating out of poverty. A ceiling A
9:52
for but it's hard to be five stars
9:54
on your bloodletting animal the in the front
9:56
of shop. To buy the
9:58
blood. Or. Ah,
10:00
hundred percent sure you can buy the blood. He.
10:03
get like a like a. Like. A Pick
10:05
and mix your have you guys a pick
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and mix over here. Twenty you am says
10:09
a real three cove. it's think it's a
10:11
it's a thing we got like a little.
10:13
you go into a sweet shop and you
10:15
get like a little. Bag. And
10:17
he just. Put. Whatever you want in
10:19
it lowry out of like and then on the
10:21
way it at the end. Does.
10:23
Yeah thank you Letters like surprise bags for
10:25
the animal and trail skill I gonna be
10:28
like on what some of the kids though
10:30
the kidneys in here gimme some bird. Lightning
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selected funded exactly when the bay like a
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like a cocktail or like a what's the
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call does a got what he called us
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little those japanese old things he had the
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the plastic balls the open another round gotcha.
10:43
Yeah Augustus okay yeah moon about seven want
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to put a quarter and spit it was
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going to come out which they run and
10:50
hide. Prius you know on some awful a
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call them and suggest that their Italian by
10:55
the time Dennis Dennis was rare friend of
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their know club was done it once again
10:59
capture for some stuff over the years he
11:01
had this idea to am he likes me
11:04
to go on these like cooking tangents a
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subtle about seen obese bruises on beer Israelis
11:08
bits and bobs I for some reason he
11:10
was he was doing something and he he
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needed to get a he needed a bunch
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of fat for it. And. It
11:17
was there. And as and
11:19
they had this idea who that fat was
11:21
it was when we were living in as
11:24
Ireland and Iran was broke and he was
11:26
x did get is rendered fall it's a
11:28
really expensive so he went to the English
11:30
Marcus in Cork where we were living and
11:32
he asked the butcher and he was like
11:34
hey now fats like tired com by it's
11:36
had get that much use like. It
11:38
was make your own fact. When
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he mean that he's he had get
11:42
a bunch of like fat from one
11:44
of us that we thrive on. Your
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facts, take some Alaska go home boils.
11:49
And you can like then you get it renders
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down and you get like cooking fancies like. Than.
11:54
Their at that stage I would have been
11:56
like i'm good in Allens Tennessee I from
11:58
east and it's like fun. Absolutely what when
12:01
they come back as a comeback against decks
12:03
that comes back sky hands on like this.
12:05
Fucking Huge like. that bag
12:07
thing to school of fat. Puts
12:10
in his car, brings it home. Boils
12:13
this fight. I swear to God Dionysus have
12:15
smelled of fat for Betty a subset of
12:17
such a horrific first or it does not
12:19
boil quickly. He had the ball at like.
12:21
I don't think he ever got to render
12:23
down who's buying a for like like the
12:25
weekend. He was more like that the oven
12:27
was on. For. Like all nice
12:29
him rendering passes. it's fuckin' the
12:31
barman a court and I was
12:33
and it smells so bad I
12:36
dive. Went to visit sales go
12:38
nightly. What the fuck is he
12:40
making like so. I don't and
12:42
maybe he was making explosives. Natty Not going to say
12:44
I've seen fight Club. I know you do without much
12:46
fat. I have to ask it was
12:48
he blowing up like a corporate billie have? It is
12:50
like a man and his best friend. Asked
12:55
us to ask him further research
12:57
required Am. Who. I don't have
12:59
to ask is that is that the folks
13:01
its ab page on our costs less know
13:03
that who have been already helping us as
13:05
on credible members are credible A free member
13:07
Sue Page on finally did it. They added
13:10
the ability to post things to both paid
13:12
every members of the same time. I'm so
13:14
happy. It's with the whole point
13:16
I wanted have some actual content that we could
13:18
give basically to all of our community regardless of
13:20
if they are patrons are not as paying patrons
13:23
As a big part of this is we have
13:25
a lot of people who have been patrons to
13:27
us for years and years and years and then
13:29
obviously it's at a certain point they go or
13:31
am I have done my part and in a
13:33
fortune and we have to say like. Bye.
13:36
Bye to them you know he didn't get like
13:38
was debater. Joy of know they've been a patron
13:40
for like five years am so add deserve this
13:42
having a mechanism the basically allows them to sort
13:45
of like just go to the bench you know
13:47
maybe for a while, maybe forever on an open
13:49
just like sit out a couple of his i'm
13:51
us to still have them as party community data
13:54
as on the I've been dying for him to
13:56
ask him page on to do for years and
13:58
years ever since a spurs are. Membership
14:00
so they just added that. I'm super
14:02
super excited to. We're going to have
14:05
a whole new Ruairi fit of them,
14:07
the tears and a bunch of stuff.
14:09
Laboratory or Napster in the summertime Am.
14:11
What will be saying though is probably
14:13
are incredible. Will definitely I'm kind of
14:15
a bottle pass holders. Same and Slattery
14:17
Harry Flanagan Battle Royale games are no
14:20
Richard Matheson, Jason the Lily, James Brown
14:22
Bears No one of their pay to
14:24
am across. Ryan Cobb Tucker Morgan Crimson
14:26
Cyclists spend Mr. Peres you in nice
14:28
center right this week. Tim Robbins. It
14:30
far as brewing. Jonathan. Kremlin,
14:33
Eric Hamilton Snyder. I
14:35
relax Zachary Nader, Alex Sharp Alex do
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say George Dakota's Jacob God serve a
14:40
totally I've and of course rice and
14:42
thank you so much for am as
14:45
giving us have so much money a
14:47
month which we need because of all
14:49
of the video games we had to
14:52
buy this month to play and talk
14:54
of as am. Ok,
15:00
let's do this in order of a I
15:02
guess the games than most of us have
15:05
played. Let's start with the one which I
15:07
played a bunch of and then totally forgot
15:09
that the embargo would have dropped by the
15:12
time last week's podcast game as this of
15:14
course is animal well am a game that
15:16
I was talking about was it I was
15:18
I was in the shower they're trying to
15:21
remember. was it two summers ago that we
15:23
did thus Summer Games Best video link so
15:25
it sounds when it it might be a
15:27
now I don't think it was last year.
15:30
When I went to As T Liza
15:32
summer games as which Frank will be
15:34
going add to this year vc Frank
15:36
as a kiwi fast mixture go up
15:38
as a hail of be filming some
15:40
stuff played some games am but as
15:42
this was a game that I saw
15:44
that it was my stand out as
15:46
my pick of the. Of the
15:49
show as a subsidiary got picked
15:51
up by Big Mode game zur
15:53
sign away made a singer their
15:55
a donkey in the As As
15:57
publishing arm which I had. Concerns
16:00
about at when it was
16:02
initially announced at a game.
16:05
I. Was something that I was by it a
16:07
sort of a beta code saying that they kept
16:09
up dating for a while so I'd played a
16:11
lot of it over the past year or so
16:14
am and then that it eventually came at one
16:16
point Joe at the end of last week at
16:18
has gotten a bunch of really great reviews. People
16:20
seem to be really into as as some people
16:22
have bounced off Vests Abbott. I'm excited to hear
16:24
what you guys have to say about us. At
16:27
Jeremy you completed such. Go to you first of
16:29
all and what have you made of animal? well
16:31
what? First of all what have a game is
16:33
it and how would you describe in yeah. Yeah,
16:36
what you make of it is
16:38
a pixel art Metroid Mania plath
16:40
former an active combat you're a
16:42
little bit like a little blob.
16:44
Little blob. man I was like
16:46
a blob. Yeah unless you are
16:48
you're eating was it appears to
16:50
be some sort of well full
16:52
of animals. I
16:55
fuckin I love this game. I think this is
16:57
this is my favorite memory me as as holiday
16:59
which is saying a lot because I love all
17:01
and I am. I. Yeah.
17:04
I. I'm tempering other things I'll say because
17:06
I think that one of the beautiful things
17:08
about this game is a sense of discovery.
17:10
I think that the thing that Animal Well
17:12
does the best is take. Things. That
17:15
seem very like things that seem like things
17:17
video games have been doing for thirty years.
17:19
Very competently. So you're like most. what new
17:21
ground could there be to explore and this?
17:24
yeah and I've played measure of any as
17:26
a flame platform years have you played a
17:28
to the Av puzzle apply for me type
17:30
game before your me A This is the
17:33
first one that some it unlocks and and
17:35
one items that allowed to enter new areas.
17:37
Something like that Henri you're defining careful. It
17:39
may shock some of our listeners to hear
17:42
these things. and yeah no it's A It
17:44
does. It's play in the hits in some
17:46
sense of, but in another more important sense. I
17:48
think. When. Animal Well does
17:50
so so well Well well that
17:52
first try not to record a
17:54
thoughts of is it like. Everything.
17:57
in a this is that is this is not well
18:00
But this is the closest I'll come to like alluding to why this
18:02
game is so brilliant it takes
18:05
all everything in animal well has like
18:07
an Exoteric purpose
18:10
and then you're like, okay, that's what
18:13
that does And then you play the game
18:15
for three more hours and something accidental happens
18:17
where you're like, holy shit There's like a
18:19
hidden dimension to this thing that I've been
18:21
using the normal way for three hours and
18:24
it just like it had it just Constantly
18:26
pulls this trick where you're having like a
18:29
repeated sense of discovery about things that you
18:31
thought you understood and it's it's like It's
18:33
unbelievably brilliant Jesse what
18:35
have you made of us? How far are you into us? It's
18:40
like six six eight hours something like that Yeah, I
18:43
think it took me about nine or ten and I
18:45
finished with 42 of the eggs or something like that
18:47
There's collectibles not names. They're called eggs. It's
18:50
what you get from the chest, which I always found funny
18:52
because playing What was it Prince of
18:54
Persia the lost crown earlier this year another Metroidvania?
18:56
More action focused the reward at the end
18:59
of completing long challenges was like you get
19:01
a shirt Like you get a new outfit
19:03
and this kind of has the same feeling
19:05
where after you complete these long Puzzle
19:08
challenges are these challenging puzzles that require you to
19:10
think in new and different ways you get like
19:13
You like frost egg? No,
19:17
I really really like a law as well. I
19:19
did it too It's
19:21
it's got this thing and I think Jeremy you
19:23
you're right in saying that it's it's a really
19:26
good Metroidvania because it I think It captures what?
19:29
The Metroid part of that is like I
19:31
feel like when I'm playing Metroidvania is now
19:33
They lean a lot more combat and a
19:35
lot more platforming a lot more in the
19:37
main side of things which isn't a knock
19:39
I enjoy that aspect of it But what
19:41
Metroid the original three Metroid Metroid super
19:43
Metroid and whatever the third one was fusion. No,
19:45
that's the game Doesn't matter my Fusion
19:51
frenzy no though
19:54
those games had a sense of stranger
19:57
in a strange land or like Feeling.
20:00
Like you don't know what's going on in
20:02
the world? Ah, there aren't enough much. Word
20:04
mean is that feel That way? They feel
20:06
mechanically contemporary, so you can kind of always
20:08
tell what's going on and then. Also, the
20:10
design of the world is fairly easy to
20:12
parse. It doesn't really feel like you're learning
20:14
anything new when you play them, like from
20:16
a. World. Perspective because world building
20:18
but it's like a guy lives in a
20:20
house and he's meme. Mary's like a king
20:22
in the castle and he doesn't like the
20:24
people who reports with yeah I get a
20:26
read a story before the playing animal well
20:29
and earlier this year old. Trust those you
20:31
games I knew like yes are really embracing
20:33
the alien nature other than the Metroid, a
20:35
part of Metroid Vanja more and more than
20:37
most of the other games using that that
20:39
branding and it's been. Isn't. Really fun
20:41
to see. I'm excited to play more animal
20:43
well because even though you know we finished
20:45
it, Slut. To that
20:47
game, it's not just like you hit
20:49
the credits and the game's over. His
20:51
lot of stuff going on. did a
20:53
very very summer stuff that we get
20:56
talk about out this game That I
20:58
think that maybe the most interesting thing
21:00
about this game weirdly agriculture. All
21:02
i wanna talk about i think as
21:04
as as so the killer of this
21:06
whole thing which is just the the
21:09
graphics, the sound the by a but
21:11
the weirdness of this entire at worlds
21:13
am the game obviously has like it's
21:15
a to the pot former and boy
21:17
oh boy is of our i mean
21:20
it's you know what we we celebrate
21:22
games like all trust because they looked
21:24
completely insane am my i don't know
21:26
what that game is it's a cross
21:28
between like of Futurama episodes of With
21:30
Slur Menace am you. Know multiplied by
21:33
some crazy other European artist or
21:35
something and then yeah you know
21:37
at Blasphemous for instance which is
21:39
that you know very much in
21:41
that sort of em contemporary. Our
21:43
old style Spanish ab painterly at
21:45
as look to it as well.
21:47
lots of big dark black at
21:49
tones and as and an animal
21:51
well as just like. it's neon
21:53
for sure. It's like the base
21:55
color is is darkness again and
21:57
then it's just blues and greens
21:59
like us. The Nightmare Before Christmas
22:01
Style a Halloween to and palette
22:03
to the whole thing. But
22:06
the tone of it the sound
22:08
design is incredible the like it
22:10
feels very am. A
22:13
kinetic because the games graphics are very
22:15
basic but the physics that are happening
22:17
are are not select. The lighting is
22:19
all interesting and dynamic. There's lots of
22:22
like the little physics objects swaying, the
22:24
sounds of lots of animals in the
22:26
background. On the parallax you can see
22:28
stuff going on. it just feels like
22:31
it's crawling a little were which I
22:33
really think is cool and that's it.
22:35
has these like you mentioned the jeremy
22:37
that this sort of objects like at
22:40
you know objects that feel that in
22:42
a world. That felt like it was a
22:44
more realistic place to this. The place in
22:46
on the wealth feels like something and have
22:48
a fever dream. It doesn't feel like an
22:51
alien planet necessarily. error if feels like an
22:53
imagined place. Almost so damn. and you're saving
22:55
your you save game on a telephone and
22:57
this is weird. Like Twin Peaks sort of
22:59
bad music play on the background with you.
23:01
That enough it's I don't know what. it's
23:03
just. Again, it's something I keep coming back
23:06
to as a thirty eight year old gamer.
23:08
Anything that's fresh that makes me feel oh
23:10
I've not seen this before. I am just
23:12
on it immediately. And I think I'd really
23:14
like.about Animal. Well yeah, the attention to
23:16
detail at it is. So as Senator
23:18
Billie Bassa who made this game as
23:20
I specifically want to say his name
23:22
because this is not the fault of
23:24
donkey at all. but that one is
23:27
just. What? Does the outcomes of this
23:29
being published a very popular like personality
23:31
figure on the internet is that I.
23:33
Do. You go to. He made the game. as
23:35
his see been any down as sexiness. If
23:38
you to the steam reviews if you go
23:40
anywhere you will see. Ninety is
23:42
I'd say like two thirds of the comments
23:44
will be the same as like Halo to
23:46
meet Halo Three I believe it or C
23:48
I A or you'll see like yeah just
23:50
like references to Donkey or like lots of
23:52
other like Donkeys game game of It and
23:55
it's It's cool because I'm glad that analog
23:57
it's the boost that it so much deserves.
23:59
but I. A Billie Basso learn
24:01
learn the man's name ppl. Billie Basso made
24:03
this fucking game. Here is an ex never
24:05
realm dude. oh yeah I any because he
24:07
said he's basins Chicago area. am I interviewed
24:10
him or I talk to him back then
24:12
and ask them and he's so he's like
24:14
s guy who worked at a big studio
24:16
and then left and went to start his
24:18
own thing and yeah like you said he
24:20
I don't know if he did every everything
24:23
like the music maybe would like. Basically the
24:25
game is a is a one person show.
24:27
he did the music as well as a
24:29
he invests in. The in the video that
24:31
they did to promote of the donkey but on
24:33
his tail in the background as Billy's shot I
24:36
believe is a core them as twenty with answer
24:38
every goal synthesizer so I I I believe in
24:40
that video they talk about how he did like
24:42
literally everything and it's just like it's the attention
24:45
to detail shows and so many little things to
24:47
like. the I'm. The. Have Sex and
24:49
The Controller Vibration: There's like specific vibration
24:51
signatures for different options that are young
24:53
and stuff are just things that like.
24:56
You. Know, as you don't even you don't even
24:58
like consciously pay attention to, but they make a
25:00
difference on a subconscious level. Things like feel happy,
25:03
glee different as a tightening i'm thing on Seal
25:05
team deck so I don't know if I he
25:07
got any of that. Ah, interesting, probably? I don't
25:09
know. Yeah. That's
25:12
about. The As the only other
25:14
thing I want to say is that I I I.
25:17
Went. Pretty deep into the mysteries and decided
25:19
that I had had enough and was like i
25:21
just wanna see how deep the rabbit hole goes
25:23
and just spoil myself And I think this game
25:25
has maybe the more secrets of the deepest secrets
25:27
of any video game ever made. potentially. Ah
25:30
I. I know that's a bold statement but
25:32
holy shit as when it wasn't long ago
25:34
and I've also I had all the stuff.
25:36
I agree this is that eat during a
25:38
maybe like an animal well I say I
25:40
say they are So far as as far
25:42
as the Rabbit Helga a rabbit hill. The.
25:44
Rather hell read the whole study lead
25:46
us that restaurant that's what they show
25:48
that would have now that bizarre the
25:51
rabbit hell they they would have made
25:53
way more money would have my four
25:55
oh my god Sergei Toot Toot Excited
25:57
to revisited if I had as well
25:59
myself on how deep Tunica says that
26:01
maybe in other potential candidates. These are
26:03
sort of the type of mysteries that
26:05
like and not one player but rather
26:07
all players are going to have to
26:09
contribute the acted to uncover. Okay here
26:11
as I think my last point out
26:13
and I and I know like we
26:15
sound like a Brac broken Records wanna
26:17
talk about these games and not m
26:19
spoil them my indic a last week
26:21
there's always something right I but I'm
26:23
with you guys like I feel like
26:25
edu kind on a explain to my
26:27
see this game away am what I
26:29
do like though is that the just
26:31
almost because of the sort of alien
26:33
nature of the world and I dominus
26:35
extraterrestrial I just didn't in I'm in
26:37
a bizarre dreamlike vibe of this strange
26:39
little place am. That. That
26:41
that it allows them to be
26:43
super esoteric with the. Like.
26:46
Tools you guess? Like the tools
26:48
you get to. you know, This
26:51
isn't like a Metroid Vanier were like.
26:53
you get the right key more you
26:55
get like the double jump. Like the
26:57
double jump in this game is a
27:00
weird concept. The you know the gun
27:02
in this game. Is. It's own
27:04
weird concept and then to Germany's
27:07
points like you, the ways in
27:09
which they're used are often. Does
27:12
often ways of using them the you
27:14
never thought of and the game you
27:16
know does a great job of basically
27:19
nudging you in a direction of like
27:21
now try this shit or like accidentally
27:23
making you do something. one of those
27:25
tools are they like a lot I
27:27
could do that with this thing am
27:30
and it's just so confident like it's
27:32
such a weird game but it's so
27:34
confident in it's design am and yeah
27:36
I it's a it's a weird special
27:38
Loathing. The.
27:41
The feeling I gave me was am. I.
27:43
Felt like I was playing linked to the Past
27:45
again the first time. In a weird way I
27:47
feel like as as much as this is a
27:49
better idea I feel like spiritually this is like
27:51
an old school Zelda game. Yeah
27:54
I don't have to. The killing of discovery the ceiling
27:57
of new tools like of figuring out what new tools
27:59
do and out. Or am I don't know I just I
28:01
kept feeling like I was playing like linked to the bass for some
28:03
reason I just get pop into my head. See. If
28:05
any of our thoughts on a on a how
28:07
well as a questions frank know yeah I played
28:09
maybe an hour other and I was happy because
28:11
ways I'm here like puzzle game like I on
28:14
on on the patience for i don't once you
28:16
but like I feel like I was making steady
28:18
progression and then yeah like any good measure advantage
28:20
like you they keep feeding you new items that
28:22
completely like receive like oh way okay I can
28:24
go back and do this thing like. the
28:27
alec one item my guy with is so funny they
28:29
get my to use the it everywhere to see what
28:32
would happen with a no regard this as to and
28:34
that yeah the the. Aesthetic of it is
28:36
so com it's all a blue and purple
28:38
it's very of four years so it's vehicle
28:40
so gambling on Ps five it does have
28:42
the have the exceed back like that which
28:44
feel so good it's very yeah yeah very
28:47
chill the blaze sorry like a be I
28:49
was intimidated like. Is. It's gonna be
28:51
too obsessed with so forth and said he
28:53
and it's got a map so you can
28:55
see which which corners as it and then
28:57
like on are measured on the others to.
28:59
It's great the I see haven't I haven't
29:02
them all man okay to do that too
29:04
and an alley that you're gonna need to
29:06
at a certain sound system down and it
29:08
go for the unwieldy yes is available on
29:10
Playstation, Five P, C, and Switch I believe
29:13
as well as though right now on steam
29:15
for twenty five dollars. It's gotta say about
29:17
the moments for the next. Couple
29:19
of days for next week. Actually, who
29:21
had just ten? ten percent of am?
29:24
Yeah of I'm playing on steam
29:26
dotcoms. Answer as a great little
29:28
steam deck. Nighttime games Real real
29:30
real real. It's weirdly cozy game considering
29:32
it is he like cerebral unchallenging
29:34
like it's not a little scary
29:36
scary at times. Yes, Soviet is
29:38
everything. On the like
29:40
those are gonna go on asthma. Tongue
29:43
pounds. Do it. Again,
29:53
that is very gaudily though. I would
29:55
you be willing. Frank is a little
29:57
kitty big city and this one the
29:59
same as last week from Double Dagger
30:02
Studios. It's out on basically everything yes,
30:04
G Force now players. You can also
30:06
enjoy the Katie Big City. How much
30:08
of this have you played Frank Halle
30:10
So I beat it's but then like
30:12
I did the main objective but they're
30:14
still like it feels like fifty percent
30:17
again to still explore and and playoffs.
30:19
I would say maybe. Maybe. Maybe
30:21
maybe five to six hours of it.
30:23
And. Yeah. I I am very
30:25
surprised I know anything about it but it
30:27
was on Dame pass and like sure I'll install
30:30
this beautiful and it's basically an untitled well
30:32
as the untitled goose game but you're a cat
30:34
but the thing that that sells a year and
30:36
a Japanese city it's straight I'm like Japan
30:38
and like oh my god see have like the
30:41
family mart or whatever that that the op
30:43
than the knock off. Like
30:45
convenience stores their their salaryman walking raziq
30:47
and you can trip over. The premise
30:49
of the game is your cat. You're
30:51
knocked out of your highrise apartment buildings,
30:53
fall down any just have to explore
30:55
and get back. ads. It
30:57
feels like the one giant Tony Hawk
30:59
level A First I was sitting around
31:01
like yours. Objective: That's like find of
31:04
like underground though yes turn out that
31:06
about the other Yeah yeah no exactly
31:08
get you tube you either you meet
31:10
like different animals that you meet A.that's
31:12
like I live There's no. Their.
31:14
Text bubbles there's no again will cross and
31:17
like but like. That's where I
31:19
imagine they'll sound like that is me to decamp
31:21
like I've lost my for Duckling. Go find my
31:23
for Ducklings and I'll teach you how to deal
31:25
of the of I'll give you a festival that
31:28
you climb higher or whatever and so like Wander
31:30
around and and one mission is like there's of
31:32
Duckling playing a street by. Fear certain that the
31:34
darker arcade cabinets but it's all like is in
31:36
the arcade cabinet that the all the oldest republic
31:38
or to the like ducks the to see like
31:41
the little like sight gag like that and it
31:43
does things like I'm not leaving until this until
31:45
this like video and but it's like that attracts
31:47
mode on the arcade. Machine as a half the
31:49
so as the cat you have to find
31:51
in like unplug the arcade machine so you
31:53
just the cat causing chaos he could not
31:55
pass off buildings you can like mess up
31:58
a painter softly do trip people over. Like,
32:02
it's really gentle and charming, and it's
32:04
one of those things like... It also
32:06
kind of feels like you're playing Super
32:08
Mario Odyssey, where you can just walk
32:10
around and, oh shoot, that is an
32:12
objective, or little secret, um, yeah, little
32:14
secret objective things to collect, and it's
32:16
just a giant playground or sandbox, and
32:18
that's why I'm like, I beat it,
32:20
but the in-game has like a... Yeah,
32:23
like an objective lock, and there's so many
32:26
little things to do and collect, and it's
32:28
really charming, and I'm just totally surprised by
32:30
it. Yeah, I've played maybe two hours of
32:32
this, um, with my daughter. It's
32:35
a real like, sit down with your kid
32:37
and play sort of game, she's telling me
32:39
what to do, um, very much in the
32:41
wholesome games thing, like, to me this is...
32:43
it's not a kid's game, because the objectives
32:45
are kind of probably a little bit too
32:47
hard for a kid, maybe, I don't know,
32:49
or there's a lot of like, precision
32:52
platforming in it, because you're, you know, a
32:54
cat trying to climb high and get, you know,
32:56
get up high and jump high, and, you
32:59
know, sort of get access to
33:01
certain stuff that way, and you're doing a
33:03
lot of like, light objectives, like, yeah, collect
33:05
25 shiny things with the pigeon, or, you
33:08
know, one of the cats wants you to
33:10
knock over a bunch of jam jars that
33:12
are in this lady's shop, you have to
33:14
climb up top, and yeah, literally like, left
33:16
trigger and right trigger are swash in
33:18
both directions, and so you're doing
33:20
a lot of like, the cat's just kind of going
33:23
meh, and knocking something off, and then it
33:25
like smashes, and people go
33:27
crazy, yeah, it's like,
33:29
to me it feels like a good game
33:31
pass game, probably, it's 25 bucks, same thing,
33:35
10% off at the moment, until May 23rd, I guess that's
33:37
the way you just do things on Steam these days, and
33:40
yeah, it feels like, it feels... what's
33:42
the word? I don't, I'm trying not to be disparaging here,
33:44
because I think it's in keeping with the
33:47
vibe of the game, it's not like, it's
33:49
the production values are appropriate, you know, the characters
33:51
don't speak, they don't really have faces either, which
33:53
I guess cats probably don't even recognize, but I
33:55
don't know if they recognize faces or whatever, but
33:57
that may be that as part of the game.
34:00
of it, you know, the lighting in
34:02
it is pretty sort of lo-fi and
34:05
the gameplay and the controls are sort of feel
34:07
that way as well. It feels a little
34:09
bit of a 3D platformer throwback
34:11
kind of thing to it. But
34:14
yeah, it's very sweet and
34:16
charming and yeah, I don't know. For
34:19
some reason I get vibes of like maybe it's
34:21
the setting or the art style, but like Katamari
34:23
and stuff, it kind of gives me a little
34:25
bit of a feeling of just like fucking around
34:27
and having fun and exploring this world.
34:29
They have like lots of mini objectives like
34:31
there's like soccer goals around and balls that
34:34
you have to hit into them and you'll
34:36
get extra prizes. It's very self-aware and funny
34:38
and you know the run button is zoomies,
34:40
you know, because you're just a little kitten
34:42
who gets too much energy or whatever. Yeah,
34:45
I don't have all that much else to say
34:47
about it. You guys got any questions for us?
34:51
How does it compare to Stray, another tag
34:53
game that I've met? Oh yeah! I
34:56
bounced off Stray. What about you, Frank? Yeah, Stray
34:58
was like too moody and like a bummer. I
35:01
mean like okay, it's high production value, people liked it, but
35:03
I was like I want to play as
35:05
a cat. I don't know, it was just like a
35:08
bummer. But I didn't play much of Stray. I feel
35:10
like Stray was also pretty hyper linear. I mean I
35:12
know like there was side quests you talked to, it
35:14
was like no, you have to go here, go here.
35:18
Little kitty big city is just go wherever, it's
35:20
fine. Like you are gated a little bit, but
35:22
then like you do a few objectives and
35:24
then you really do have a like Zelda
35:26
stamp in a meter as you're climbing. You
35:28
learn how to climb vines is like the first gate
35:30
that gets you after the tutorial zone and then you
35:33
hunt down like four or five fish, like pieces of fish
35:35
and then each one you eat you can climb higher and
35:37
higher so you can explore. But yeah, no, you can go
35:39
any direction, it really doesn't matter. That's why I was like
35:42
when I beat the game it was like oh no, no
35:44
I'm not done with this, what the hell? Like
35:46
it's where as Stray it's like no you have to talk to this robot here and
35:48
then go across here and it was just. But now
35:50
after playing little kitty big city, maybe I do want
35:52
to go back to Stray, but I for whatever reason like
35:55
Because of how unserious this game was, I
35:57
liked it more than Stray. Yeah, I'm with.
36:00
Frank is. There was something about the linear nature
36:02
of Stray and maybe it was because of of
36:04
the opening. I don't think I got past the
36:06
first two hours and Stray am. But.
36:08
I have I made he was more a
36:10
linear and then because it was more story
36:12
focused or whenever bus am they're pretty light
36:14
on the story. On this one it's frame
36:16
was just go fuck around and that's that's
36:18
why I get the francs sort of Tony
36:20
Hawk A and me saying it was more
36:22
like underground is it feels right? Because it's
36:25
it is. It's one of those levels were
36:27
it's like oh there's a bunch of like.
36:29
You've. The eve just get plunk down and
36:31
lot the level and you have to go
36:33
explore in every direction and that's left. release
36:35
open down as well because you're getting so
36:37
much reversal in this thing am. And
36:39
I just feels more. Enjoyable
36:42
and free and so you know expressive then
36:44
than single player platforming in enemy and I
36:46
just I don't and it it's not. It's
36:48
not something this I didn't care but this
36:50
I don't care about story lot of these
36:52
and give a shit about the for and
36:55
a guy came out and to fucking cat.
36:57
It's a cat. My dad died. You want to
36:59
go? That's the fucking story. That's the real story.
37:01
Nothing could be realer than that. Yeah, oh yes.
37:04
it does kind of seem like I'm I don't
37:06
know much about payment as far as I can
37:08
gather. Little giddy big city kind of seems like
37:10
what people. Would. Want out of the cat
37:12
game to stand on it's face like. I
37:15
can I give them was like our you play to gabriel
37:17
like a cat in a city. I. Feel like
37:19
this is what ninety nine percent of people be
37:21
like all night. And so it's like relaxing and
37:23
cool. and there's like weird little America things they
37:25
do. I. Wonder because I got this Strays
37:27
incredibly successful game. Yeah I guess what? As I
37:29
just looked on steam it has like a hundred
37:32
and twenty three thousand reviews. Yeah we're hoping. you
37:34
know know say was very popular I just imagined
37:36
like when someone says like on like a cat
37:38
you're like a cat little cat locker. As a
37:40
big city I get most know immediately imagine little
37:43
keeping Well it's very good as a point where
37:45
stray becomes that like straight the as you get
37:47
into the neon cities. I think that's where it
37:49
it kind of the you guys are right it's
37:51
very linear but I don't get hit. It's stride.
37:54
I enjoyed it but I think it hit it's
37:56
stride. When you get into the the bigger areas
37:58
that are more open and you do lot about
38:00
cats stuff like it is a lot of not
38:02
things over this contextual moments. The platforming isn't as
38:04
freeform his little kitty big city like you are.
38:06
very contextual jumps. Wait for the lead to say
38:08
x on it and then press x to jump
38:10
to the eggs marker. Be
38:12
as a lot of like I think the point
38:14
in stray that people tend to like it more
38:16
are yeah when you get to the first big
38:18
neon area as like another city you go to
38:20
eventually are like smaller. Couple
38:23
of blocks. And when
38:25
you're in there and you get to explore and
38:27
mess with stuff and solve puzzles and help people
38:29
are not help people I'm a robots I guess
38:31
is it and are. it opens up and I
38:33
feel like you get what you guys are liking
38:36
out of little kitty big city but it's not
38:38
that bummer. Dystopia. Narrative. That
38:40
goes along with it that that I
38:42
feel like china hampers the mood where
38:44
it sounds a little kitty Big City
38:46
is a lot more like fun and
38:48
like lottery. it's huge mess with the
38:50
arcade machine, knocked a fruit over instead
38:52
of like scan up overthrow this this
38:54
robot overlord who's control the whole world.
38:57
Illegal. yeah did Jeremy that. I guess
38:59
the I agree from the perspective that
39:01
like stray as a subversion and little
39:03
kitty Big City feels like yeah we
39:05
had years ago. You had imagined when
39:07
a cat game would look like right?
39:09
probably. Vi yeah yeah yeah yeah City Bear If
39:11
I was going to play a game I probably
39:13
over afraid because I'm a yeah morose and mukhabarat
39:15
and I don't know if I were to play
39:17
this had a not been something i was like
39:19
oh this is great for my get me to
39:21
to knock around with the know it's lost some
39:24
it's upsetting the world on fire but it's a.
39:26
You know to goes wholesome. Fun!
39:29
Time, you know? It's it's. It's got the
39:31
laughs as got. It's got good vibes
39:33
doing athletic any big city. Your final
39:36
next box of data on. Oh.
39:39
But. Also been on next. What's that if
39:41
game Pacific and it was on gave us
39:43
and them a nice your time That's. You.
39:45
Gotta so much Hackers was an got
39:47
amis that's dogs are wondering. What's
39:50
your favorite? I was your favorite Super little hot
39:52
Frank I think I I think I land on
39:54
a ladybug hat but the the i basically like
39:57
you get you find different hats and then he
39:59
can also there. The machines operated by crows
40:01
and you give crows shiny to give you
40:03
more little hat support odds I think yet
40:05
like an apple a frog hatley like there's
40:07
so many one think have collectively are gonna
40:09
go back. Gonna do like more. Like.
40:11
Play of it and and do an achievement sleep on
40:13
it but in my daughter when i me take the
40:15
banana costs. About
40:17
that up top amount of the
40:19
orchid around am air from cats
40:22
the cats Suzanne the Enemy of
40:24
guts crows croak on for a
40:26
game as also last week or
40:28
can last week man last week
40:30
was a rid of murders crow
40:32
earth dad jokes or via video
40:34
games. this one is nos a
40:36
Metroid Vinny or or a cat
40:39
game. it is in fact am.
40:41
I don't know what we call these
40:43
Jeremy Jane games such as it's imagine
40:46
if somebody had made Final Fantasy seven
40:48
was it was set in Resident
40:50
Evil. That's what I'm getting from the
40:52
screenshots. I've not, they grow contrary I
40:55
am ill equipped add to talk about
40:57
us bus at presumably are good
40:59
friends Jeremy Jane is because he completed
41:01
as what the fuck is grow Gods
41:04
right? Yeah Crow Country is this game
41:06
have been following for a while.
41:08
The developer posted screenshots of work in
41:11
progress. Our assets for me be like. To.
41:13
Plus years ago on and was into lead stricken by
41:16
exactly what you said which is that it? It looks
41:18
like it's taking kind of the like. Like.
41:21
Very like geometric primary emily blocks in
41:23
circles, seeps of people in Final Fantasy
41:26
like super low poly ah and updating
41:28
that looks a little bit but transpose
41:30
the under survival horror which is a
41:32
really good formula else I even that
41:35
alone was will Gabi interested. but obviously
41:37
a survival horror game is very tricky
41:39
thing to pull off it's it's a
41:42
genre that has been done to death
41:44
is a lot of. A.
41:46
Lot of people that have like moved on from the
41:48
older styles arrival our and how they prefer more and
41:50
like. Dead. Space or like Alan way
41:52
to and I'm like the third person. Did. The
41:54
gears of war of survival. Worth. Gears
41:57
of Horror, Gears Of War. So
42:01
Crow Country is. It's.
42:03
Interesting. I is. It
42:05
plays much more like an old Resident Evil
42:07
but sabbatical. yeah. kind of reminds be more
42:09
of an old Silent Hill game which I've
42:11
that's like of. It's kind of a beautiful
42:13
marriage of the to anyway because it's a
42:15
kind of takes the things that I like
42:17
for me either franchise in their Olds installments
42:19
and. And. I and I'm married. Mary's
42:21
them Together in this new form but
42:23
I'm guessing it's as rivalry game set
42:25
of like an asymmetric perspectives are you
42:27
can rotate the camera which is cool
42:30
because since everything has this very like.
42:33
Low poly weird like hyper geometric shape
42:35
to at some it looks like it
42:37
should be fixed. Camera to be able
42:39
to rotate the camera around the environments.
42:41
Feals a Ira if he felt novel
42:43
for the entire run. Twelve The Gateway
42:45
Ike I guess because in games like
42:48
Final Fantasy Seven I think a lot
42:50
of those were pre generated render exactly
42:52
mass asset they were it's role models
42:54
that were being rendered they were they
42:56
were models that had been rendered and
42:58
scouts sex your eyes you know placed
43:00
onto the world. Yeah it like pulls.
43:02
Off the pre rendered look very well for not
43:05
being pre rendered which is very cool but it's
43:07
a is so year like of your agent Mara
43:09
for us to pull up in your car. It's
43:11
very light on the story at the beginning but
43:13
as it goes on I think the story was
43:16
actually really good. And.
43:18
Your kind of like trying to solve
43:20
this mystery at an old abandoned theme
43:22
park called Crow Country. A Crowd: Oh
43:24
a theme park with all these kind
43:27
of like sub Lansdale. There's like an
43:29
aquatic beam thing and there's always different.
43:31
Like fun theme park beams. And.
43:34
It's like it's interesting because
43:36
it's. it's ice i
43:38
thought it was gonna be like a bit
43:40
cheesy horror game just is it has kind
43:42
of acute the art style and like the
43:44
big crow mask africa country is kind of
43:47
cute and stuff i actually there were some
43:49
good scared of this game is it an
43:51
illegal it does get like as much as
43:53
the i sell is gonna qc it and
43:55
has like fucked up lookin monsters it's thematically
43:57
very dark and yeah i mean there was
44:00
a moment where something pops out of the
44:02
vents in the first 20 minutes that I
44:04
it's like it got me good. So yeah,
44:07
it's the thing that I think is most notable about this
44:09
game. The thing that I think is worth talking about is
44:11
that a lot of survival horror
44:13
revival revival horror
44:15
games of the last like five years or whatever kind
44:18
of take the genre to try to do something
44:20
radically different with it. So like Homebody and signalis
44:23
are both games that bear a striking resemblance to
44:25
old school survival horror, but they do something so
44:27
radically different that you're like, oh wow, this is
44:29
like a really new flavor of survival horror game.
44:31
Crow country to me feels like it could have
44:33
come out in 1999. And like it feels
44:37
like a game from that era. It
44:39
obviously has like quality of life things that
44:41
a that a new survival horror game should but it it
44:44
feels so authentically of that era that I
44:47
really appreciated that about it. It wasn't trying to be
44:49
like and look how different we are. Not
44:51
that I mean, I really do like that about Homebody and signalis,
44:54
but it was refreshing to have a game that's just like a
44:56
PS one survival horror game straight out. What
45:00
does it do? Does it do anything? I've only watched
45:02
videos of it and stuff. And obviously one aspect that
45:04
does make it feel very modern is the fact that
45:07
you can rotate the camera. Something else
45:09
that I've seen is obviously this combat in this game. How
45:12
much is it like Resident Evil where you're
45:14
like, I'm most scarcity. And then in terms
45:16
of its modernness,
45:20
it seems like there's sort of like
45:22
you can use environmental stuff maybe to
45:24
help in the combat as well.
45:26
Yeah. Yeah. There's like there's like power boxes
45:28
and explosive barrels and stuff in the environment
45:30
that you can shoot. So there's kind of
45:32
like strategic decision making about when to use
45:34
those and luring enough enemies close
45:37
to them that they're they're they're
45:39
worth using. Yeah. As the game
45:41
goes on, the game also adds
45:43
more enemies. So it was
45:46
an interesting thing where like in in Resident Evil
45:48
remake, if you kill zombies and you don't burn
45:50
them, they come back as like
45:52
what are they called? Redheads or something? I can't remember it.
45:55
I am like Crimson head Crimson head. Thank you.
45:57
That's fucked up, man. Yeah. I
46:00
believe they're called gingers. Yeah
46:02
first we have the you know, they they
46:05
you can't knock them out with them with
46:07
prescription medication Apologize
46:17
to all of our red headers Anyway
46:22
The Crow country does like an interesting twist on that
46:24
or it's not about like burning the corpses of enemy's
46:26
you defeat But it is about picking
46:29
your battles in which environments you clean up because as
46:31
the game progresses they add more and more enemies So
46:33
if you're if you're not doing combat as the game
46:35
goes on It's like doing a run where you're like,
46:37
oh shit. I'm really low on ammo I better not
46:39
fight anyone but you haven't been cleaning enemies up all
46:42
of a sudden you're running through like like
46:44
hordes of So
46:46
that was like that's like a fun interesting twist on
46:49
the survival horror kind of like difficulty ramp up that
46:51
I really liked Interesting yeah,
46:54
it doesn't run into the Resident Evil one
46:56
problem of okay these these zombies are too
46:58
easy now Here's some lizard man. Yeah Yeah,
47:02
exactly Yeah, it uh,
47:05
it does do it is very much like the Resident
47:07
Evil style of combat though Where it's like you stand
47:09
and plant and then you could aim like up and
47:11
down left and right But it does
47:13
have kind of like a little reticle that shows where the
47:15
where like the ray cast from the gun is
47:17
currently hitting So at least it like indicates to
47:19
it's a cuz sometimes you play old survival horror
47:21
games and it's like I can't fucking tell If
47:23
I'm like it like I'm playing silent. Yeah three
47:25
right now and sometimes I just like can't tell
47:27
where my god is pointed Call
47:31
it raycast Sighs
47:36
good tactical brother. Yeah,
47:39
I also have to tell an aside In
47:42
playing a silent hill 3 recently in all of the silent
47:44
hill games You obviously there's like the real world and then
47:46
there's the other world. We're just all like fucked up In
47:52
the beginning of Silent Hill 3 you're in one environment
47:54
and then you go to the other world version of
47:56
it But the map for the other world version of
47:58
it is the same map so you get the map
48:00
in the regular version it carries over I did
48:03
not get the map and so I had
48:05
to play the first like two hours of Silent
48:07
Hill no with no fucking map which is it
48:09
was it was one of the most torturous experiences
48:11
in my life anyone who's not played a Silent
48:14
Hill game basically you're constantly looking at the map
48:16
because it tells you which doors you have opened
48:18
which ones you have not opened and which rooms
48:20
there are left to oh my god I had
48:22
a similar experience at Animal Well where when I
48:24
was when I started playing it again I I
48:27
wasn't sure if it had retained
48:30
my save game from the previous
48:33
latest version I had played and I got super confused
48:35
because I played a bunch of it like a month
48:37
they sent out the keys for ages ago and then
48:39
I picked it up again about a week and a
48:42
half ago and I could not remember if this is
48:44
progress from when I played before whether or not and
48:46
then I couldn't remember if I got in the map
48:48
because I couldn't find the map wouldn't work I was
48:50
pressing all the buttons and the map wouldn't work so
48:53
then I was like I think I remember where the map was
48:55
but I could did I is it possible to get this far
48:57
in Animal Well without having the fucking
48:59
map unlocked and I like eventually just
49:01
capitulated and went to a youtube thing and went where
49:04
the fuck's the map like just show me where the
49:06
map is and I just didn't know there was
49:08
a button on my steam deck there I had the
49:10
map I just I didn't realize it was fucking like
49:12
that like the back button that's on the xbox there's
49:14
like a little one for the steam and I was
49:17
like oh fucking idiot yeah it's the touchpad on ps5
49:19
so I was wondering what they would
49:23
map it to fuck no I'm just
49:25
a dumbass I can't believe that see
49:27
and I'm in my head I'm thinking like
49:29
oh Animal Well I bet it's almost impossible
49:32
to like not get the map probably whereas
49:34
in res in silent field 3 I feel
49:36
like that's the thing in modern qa they
49:38
would have gotten that but
49:40
back then they were just like I guess
49:43
yeah fuck it it was painful especially because you
49:45
can't go back from the other world because you
49:47
know where the other world so I was just
49:50
like I was running around I was looking for a
49:52
bottle of fucking bleach and I was just like running
49:54
out of ammo the game or like in real life
49:56
in my house yeah you had that had pushed him
49:58
over the edge that was it Yeah, I
50:00
had to go make mustard gas at my real house
50:04
But anyway, so crow country is um, you bought
50:06
some fat you can make some Here
50:08
there's a good recipe. I know a guy. Yeah But
50:12
yeah, highly recommend crow country. I I really enjoy I
50:14
played the entire thing the night it came out So,
50:16
um, oh cool. How long is it? It's uh,
50:19
I beat it in five But I left it running a few times.
50:21
You know, probably like four to five dude This
50:23
is the sweet spot animal well.
50:25
Yep little kitty big city in
50:28
the grow country Indica, can
50:30
we talk about indica first? Just a hot second?
50:32
Yeah. Just a little second. So last week I
50:35
I'm sorry. Is that are you done with crow
50:37
country? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I just highly recommend it
50:39
if you if you like old survival horror, this
50:41
is like it stands up there I mean,
50:43
I think it so far it's better than silent hill 3
50:45
and I'm liking silent hill 3. Hell. Yeah Nice
50:47
one crow country available on there's a demo also on Steam if
50:49
you want to check that out And
50:52
it's only 20 bucks with 10% off.
50:54
Would you believe it? Although that
50:56
offer will have ended by the time this podcast
50:59
is gone up. So Fuck
51:01
you, I guess hey the extra Sorry
51:06
everyone and FOMO Yeah,
51:09
overwhelmingly positive on steam as well
51:11
with a thousand reviews go support
51:13
indeed devs SFB
51:15
games who also made Tangle
51:18
tower and the mermaid mask which
51:21
are And
51:28
Yeah, I quickly want to mention a couple of games I I played Which
51:32
over the past week I completed minishoot adventures
51:35
that I talked about last week really really
51:37
enjoyed it It's probably right about six-hour mark
51:39
as well. Um, yeah, nothing else to
51:41
say kind of it ended the way I thought it did
51:43
and a I beat
51:45
the final boss and now I'm basically going around Doing
51:47
all the stuff that I hadn't done before really enjoyed
51:49
it If they made no one of those games I
51:51
pick it up in an instant super cool and
51:54
I finally be Ordered and people are true.
51:56
I finally won a round of Bellato Last
51:58
week. So I'm very excited about. The and use
52:00
of we I think it's interesting how
52:02
swiftly of a threat saw that. I'm
52:04
glad I am not a car got
52:06
your i mean my car guy. In.
52:09
Our. The So. Azalea
52:11
and an I'm proud of myself because I. I
52:13
eventually did it. I swear to God I
52:16
was my has a fucking sister and I
52:18
finally decided added stress All Gods. Yeah,
52:20
I had to like Salah. A
52:23
joker to get rid of the the
52:25
last. Boss. Finds that thing
52:27
on all the soreness there was. It was
52:30
a nightmare. am. I Loved
52:32
Indigo. Oh my Gods,
52:34
Indicate Grace Ice. What
52:36
a fucking weird game!
52:39
Of see love this ah I didn't
52:41
speak. I don't know anything about Russian
52:43
Orthodox as what it's like growing up
52:46
in our world that as a Catholic
52:48
it was very that lots of stuff
52:50
in there were absolutely adores. I want
52:52
to talk about as it sounds like
52:55
me and Jeremy are going to do
52:57
a special podcast for this one Saga
52:59
a Patron exclusive one am. Anyone.
53:02
else is of is is also
53:04
invited to come on but there
53:06
is a prerequisite for this podcast
53:08
which is am. Well. It's
53:11
it's sort of in dubious
53:13
federal legal territory am, but
53:15
we're going to. Enjoy!
53:17
In the Guy in all of the
53:20
different ways you can do that and
53:22
talk about that game. And.
53:25
And see had to discuss in see
53:27
how have made it is. Guy said
53:29
the started as a little bit me
53:31
now flirt know there is causing us
53:33
a maybe by the islands it's it's
53:35
less so I don't know what we're
53:37
gonna just sort of indulging at. So
53:39
that's the plan right now as to
53:41
do a patron is this is there
53:43
a podcast on indicates funded by you
53:45
phone or Indigo? much on a special
53:47
effects big thank you very much York
53:49
implicit am a two games I play
53:51
though to came at this week. Are.
53:54
Ab I'll quickly talk about the
53:56
braid anniversary edition so this is
53:59
a release. The parade which came
54:01
to we want our guess when break
54:03
him as far make us feel really
54:05
wanting when know any? Yeah, and I
54:08
appeals right. Sixteen seventeen years ago. Teeth.
54:11
As an ace was the one thing when a dead.
54:13
Mice. Works am at this
54:15
of course. Ah start Braves
54:17
started the video to him
54:19
such met secretly Zada Raspberry
54:22
who is indicated the movie
54:24
it's a along with that
54:26
as bad as Super Meat
54:28
Boy I am. Yeah. So
54:30
add this is a release of
54:32
Braids. It has updated graphics which
54:34
are you conflict between the two
54:36
of them which are definitely. At.
54:40
That better. But it's not like
54:42
a fucking realities that game already had
54:44
like a crazy page. really weird style
54:46
stuckey. very fond going between the to
54:48
do of them because am you get
54:50
to see. The. Sort of more
54:52
the artistic changes that they decided to do
54:54
rather than fidelity ones which I I I
54:56
think is actually very cool stuff. like a
54:58
bunch of like Will animations like to think
55:00
name's to is as the character and white
55:02
I summer minutes cards and embrace am like
55:04
now when he when you when he turns
55:06
left and right he will there is an
55:08
animation of him turning around it doesn't just
55:10
like as swapped select and rice at. The
55:12
reason why mentioning it though is because there
55:14
is a bunch new content in here. There's
55:16
some new levels but the lion's share of
55:18
the new content or at least for me
55:20
has been in I. Would say probably
55:22
the deepest and most technically rich
55:25
and developer commentary I have ever
55:27
seen of was am I think
55:29
this fifteen Hours of Death com
55:31
and train here and to be
55:33
facilitated they had to basically build
55:36
a. sort of that
55:38
i like a almost like back rooms
55:40
sort of level thing we you could
55:42
go round and is literally a room
55:44
that has like here's programming and design
55:46
and you go through a door and
55:48
then it's like okay we're in the
55:50
programming commentary area and you're in the
55:52
level and you're triggering the commentary kind
55:55
of like a like a valve game
55:57
or whatever and but sometimes the stuff
55:59
gets super So a little picture-in-picture
56:01
will pop up of like, oh, this is
56:03
like the code that I was using and
56:05
it's John Blow He also interviewed a bunch
56:07
of other people who worked on the game
56:09
and Traveled to do
56:11
it I believe the actual recordings of these
56:13
were so big that he's put it out
56:15
as a podcast as well Which seems like
56:17
at a certain point it's like you just
56:20
need an editor for this But
56:22
the stuff that I've looked at is
56:24
like it's crazy It's like very if
56:27
I would say more than anything this is aimed
56:29
at actual developers This
56:32
is aimed at people who want to
56:34
make games not just fans of games.
56:36
So sort of caveat emptor and within
56:40
That regard I guess but yeah, it's it's
56:42
it's a fairly it's it's wild I've never
56:44
seen dev commentary like this in a game
56:46
before it's very Interesting.
56:49
So yeah, I've just been like sort of listening to it
56:51
it is kind of a weird thing because like the dev
56:54
commentary will go on for a couple of minutes and you're
56:56
just like Sort of jumping around the
56:58
braid level. Well, you know, you can just put it
57:00
down almost Some on some of
57:02
them and another one's the little picture-in-picture comes
57:04
up and you can hit the right trigger and it'll go full
57:06
screen As well. It'll kind of show you and
57:08
so the design stuff I found very interesting. The
57:11
programming stuff is Too
57:13
technical for me. And then there's loads of
57:15
other bits like art and music and other
57:17
stuff Said I'd mentioned
57:19
that braid anniversary edition. I think they launched
57:21
on like practically everything. I got
57:23
it on Steam and on
57:26
iOS Android too Yeah,
57:28
yeah, so it works on iPads. It's
57:30
on switch. It's on PlayStation 4
57:33
or 5 the
57:35
whole shebang so On
57:38
the on the anniversary exactly.
57:40
Yeah, unfortunately, I do not believe
57:42
John Blow travels to to talk
57:44
to Soulja
57:47
boy and it's interesting because
57:49
like John Blow was a divisive figure. Yeah
57:51
back when Indie game the
57:54
movie came out And you ever
57:56
stop being a divisive figure. To be fair, Well,
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sort of their the the the
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the and of aggressive political as
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savings than half an ounce on
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social media am. He's by
58:18
the looks of things with basket Macys mostly
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just been talking about braid anniversary edition, so
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perhaps that's a good thing, but am. Yeah.
58:25
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it's it's a project as. I
58:30
really love the original braised like I.
58:32
I really. This I was the
58:34
first are playing this and I was just like.
58:36
Oh. It's just feel so cozy it's it's
58:39
a silly game to replaying away because so
58:41
much of it is about figuring out logic
58:43
puzzles that. Pretty. Quickly can figure
58:45
out again if you've already done them Am.
58:47
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58:49
a game, especially in two thousand and eight.
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Jesus didn't get indie games like that and
58:53
I was really really interesting. A German say
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nodding there are you Found a bright eyed
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plated way that I haven't played it like
58:59
since he came out. but I'm yeah, no
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we did years and years ago with
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said at senior senior blow for say
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mean i guess you could gollum thought
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get cocoa the know that it'll si
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59:30
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so many games is a game called
59:34
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his matter lords but it's
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in like the fuck in
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nursery rhymes. That's Donald. A
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cute. It's. It's it's
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sort of sign Christ doesn't do
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as shit am, it's a city building
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lousy of against but maybe I'm completely
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ignorance to this whole like. But.
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to enter or people to like. Maybe that
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that's something I'm just new to or never.
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but it's the same type of thing you
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doing a lot of research gathering. like those
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games, you doing a lot of drawing the
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roads are all that sort of stuff Am
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there are positive and negative influences you build
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the in and a certain area that's good
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the first like two or three hours
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any other city building game and then
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there is a there is a layer
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of fantasy stuff to they say you're
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gonna You know fantastical creatures are going
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to come into as at the start
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you decide whether you're a prince or
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princess and there were suitors. Am I've
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seen Giant Beanstalk? There's a lot of
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like sort of. they're playing around the
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having fun with vs with the fantasy
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Big castles am. I
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to haven't gotten into any combat stuff. I
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don't know how much or as I know
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in early access for a good while and
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thirty five percent off which is pretty
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good. So it's only thirteen sixty four
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at the moment. it's easy twenty one
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box which honestly is a fucking steal.
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his game of crazier than says she
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1:01:40
become my nighttime ah relaxing game. Fable
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them nice and over on steam. really
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a kind of reminds me of like
1:01:46
an Hd Eerie Master of Black and
1:01:48
White. Like. Us either at
1:01:51
the yeah characters and I'm like are they're gonna, they're
1:01:53
gonna call me names, they're gonna sing songs or something.
1:01:56
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1:01:58
some of those things as well. Am
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cutesy. You know you spend a lot
1:02:02
of your time. So. The looking
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down but you can zoom in their
1:02:06
pretty deep am yeah. like the I
1:02:08
like the feel of the building. you
1:02:11
know me a lot so much it
1:02:13
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of of you know what it's like
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passing out how big something is? Why?
1:02:19
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1:02:22
Is more of my style but my
1:02:24
lords is quite early early access kind
1:02:26
of feels the more I've played us
1:02:29
I've been like oh this is. This
1:02:31
these other that more time when he often favorites
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1:02:37
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almost all the games we have to
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1:02:47
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heard the fiber wrestling. A
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back before fire Pro Wrestling World came
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out. I had friends am a member
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Brendan Sinclair games bodies to be the
1:02:57
news editor was a huge Fire Bro
1:03:00
fan and a Curse men and a
1:03:02
bunch of those folks were am always
1:03:04
talking about it as being like sort
1:03:06
of like the secret best wrestling games
1:03:08
especially because of the mantle their customization
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people they the was like a hard
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core group of fans who spend years
1:03:15
and years of keeping our that game
1:03:17
obviously Back in twenty seventeen Am there
1:03:20
was a really. Service Fire Pro Wrestling
1:03:22
World Switch sort of brought it to
1:03:24
the masses and I think sort of
1:03:26
tried to retain a lot of that
1:03:28
modeling am a goodness I was part
1:03:31
of us as developed by i think
1:03:33
my favorite named video game developer in
1:03:35
the world. Every time I hear them
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are fuckin' a. Spike Jonze Soft Co,
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Co. Ltd. Apps a long as they're
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the only. As. Company in the
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world has a full stop and a comma
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after their name on steam which is great
1:03:50
am. Far. From Us
1:03:53
and world's apparently. Also.
1:03:55
Has been to Dlc, Well. actually
1:03:57
i knew that because they did quite a lot of it when it
1:03:59
came as but there Is a stardom dlc was
1:04:01
this like when did you find this out
1:04:03
and were you like just completely over the
1:04:05
moon? Yeah So I remember like last
1:04:07
time around the holidays when there was like a steam
1:04:09
sale my friend brian and like cheap ass gamer They
1:04:11
tagged me in it like oh, yeah The fire per
1:04:13
resting is on sale also to start them dlc but
1:04:15
it was like the holidays where there were 6000
1:04:18
games that just come out and i'm like, okay Maybe later and
1:04:20
then I was I was in texas
1:04:22
and in some random used game store in
1:04:25
New new bronfels, which is like 50 minutes
1:04:28
outside of austin. It's where the the buckies
1:04:30
is They were just they used copy this
1:04:33
game and it's like this random ass niche
1:04:35
japanese game in texas So I bought the
1:04:37
physical and then I looked and
1:04:39
yeah the stardom deal all the dlc was on
1:04:41
sale So I got the stardom
1:04:43
dlc because yeah I've been obsessed with
1:04:45
stardom for like a year and they this is
1:04:47
the only official licensed stardom stuff in a game
1:04:50
um But even before the stardom stuff like so I started
1:04:53
playing fire for wrestling world and there's a mission mode Just
1:04:55
the tutorial and this is my my friends warn me about
1:04:57
this is like This playing
1:04:59
this game feels more like you're playing like
1:05:01
a japanese rhythm game Where the timing of
1:05:04
doing wrestling moves is so precise that at
1:05:06
first it seemed impossible It was
1:05:08
like what the hell is this game when you
1:05:10
start there's no ui it is just kind of
1:05:12
like isometric It's not like pixel art, but it's
1:05:15
it's it's almost like smoothed down pixel art But
1:05:17
the animation is very fluid if you look at
1:05:19
screenshots It just looks like almost it's like very
1:05:22
cheapy and simple, but when you see the game
1:05:24
in motion It's got the animations got weight the
1:05:26
sound effects are great but when two
1:05:28
wrestlers walk up you immediately lock
1:05:30
up and you have like It
1:05:32
there's like a super tight timing to it
1:05:34
of when you can input moves and either
1:05:36
you beat the ai or you don't And
1:05:39
you trade off moves and throughout the wrestling
1:05:41
match you have to like breathe. There's a
1:05:43
breathing button So you have to manage your
1:05:46
stamina and wrestlers will start breathing you hold
1:05:48
l1 to like to breathe which
1:05:50
is like crazy So so
1:05:52
the momentum of the matches is fun But then yeah,
1:05:54
I started doing the stardom dlc and the thing that
1:05:56
I was blown away by is like they had all
1:05:58
the stardom Girls do voices Acting so
1:06:01
like you're doing you're just wrestling and then you
1:06:03
hear them call out their moves and stuff And
1:06:05
it's like it's so surreal and so funny because
1:06:07
I've been watching this stuff for so long and
1:06:09
then just to see it Represented authentically in the
1:06:11
game because I've done like downloaded WWE 2k games
1:06:13
and you can download the wrestlers But it's all
1:06:15
like yeah fan creations and
1:06:18
modding, but they actually like scan their
1:06:20
faces and stuff so much So there's
1:06:22
there's a luchador wrestler I'm obsessed with
1:06:24
named starlight kid in in in stardom
1:06:26
and you can edit the wrestlers and I was like wait
1:06:29
a minute Can you take off her mask? What happens if
1:06:31
you take off clearly kids mask? So I went
1:06:33
in the editor and I took off her mask and there's just
1:06:36
the face parts that are masks recovered
1:06:38
are just now See-through so transparent words
1:06:40
like there's nothing behind Amazing
1:06:42
they protected her identity. I was like I
1:06:45
thought we solved the mystery But
1:06:48
yeah, the roster fire for us. I got all the stardom
1:06:50
girls, which again is funny because now Utami
1:06:53
hai Shishida and Julia have
1:06:55
left the company, but you can still play as
1:06:57
them in this so it's like cool It represents
1:06:59
a very specific time, but even on the other
1:07:01
side It has all the new Japan people so
1:07:03
like Kenny Omega is now an AW and
1:07:05
a bunch of other wrestlers But they're all in this
1:07:07
game It's like I played so many of the WWE
1:07:09
games my entire life So it's so cool to see
1:07:11
a Japanese game that actually has all
1:07:13
of the Japanese wrestlers and yeah I mean
1:07:15
the newest one came out yeah 20 2017-2019 But
1:07:19
there's also a DLC chapter written by Suda
1:07:21
51 hold on who? Yeah,
1:07:24
so Suda 51 originally directed and wrote one of
1:07:26
the one of the fire per us in games
1:07:28
for Super Nintendo and it's infamous
1:07:30
because I think at the end
1:07:32
of the one of the fire per wrestling
1:07:35
games the rest are like kills himself like
1:07:38
Like like his career is a failure. So he dies
1:07:40
like a downer and off ski movie Yeah, and so
1:07:42
now 20 years later He's written
1:07:45
a sequel we were playing at his protege and
1:07:47
the opening starts us like look America's
1:07:49
ripped off every good Japanese gimmick. We've had
1:07:51
which is true That's what the new dump
1:07:53
the NWO was a stolen gimmick that WCW
1:07:56
ripped off from Japan So the start of
1:07:58
the game is Suda 51 Wrote
1:08:00
it as some wrestling coach. He's like look Japan's been
1:08:02
you we used to be the best wrestling in the
1:08:04
business now We got to bring it back and it's
1:08:06
up on it's up to you So the story mode
1:08:09
is you're this wrestler who has to like restore glory
1:08:11
to Japanese wrestling and it's like it's
1:08:13
it's really cool again, it's a completely random game, but
1:08:15
I I picked it up at a used
1:08:17
game store in Texas and I'm really shocked
1:08:20
how good it is. How good it is.
1:08:22
I'm thing. Yeah I know. Yeah, did
1:08:24
you get bugged in there to stardom?
1:08:26
Yes I got They're
1:08:30
like 20 bucks each as well. Yeah, they're on sale
1:08:32
for like five. I would pay no, you know, I'd
1:08:34
pay I'd pay thousands of yen If
1:08:38
you're if you're just listening to this by the way
1:08:40
as this is a podcast Frank is wearing a stardom
1:08:42
hat as he says Oh, yeah For
1:08:46
the past five six and a stardom
1:08:48
sweater and the shirt is illustrated by
1:08:50
a stardom Oh my goodness, he's just
1:08:52
slagged out at the start. I want
1:08:54
to be invoices for this. All right Yeah,
1:08:56
I want to be the American brand ambassador for stardom
1:08:59
we need you know, I might go to a W
1:09:01
at the end of lot at the end of the
1:09:03
month in Los Angeles because Me
1:09:05
and she recall was a stardom wrestler and they're starting to
1:09:07
do like a cross promotion So she the fact that she
1:09:09
might show up I might buy take it for so, you
1:09:12
know, they should hire Oh, I feel like you
1:09:14
right you really not only do you have experience
1:09:16
in like community management and promotion stuff But like
1:09:19
I think you know more about stardom than any
1:09:21
other American boy. Yep The
1:09:24
other the other huge thing too I
1:09:26
was interested in so my favorite place
1:09:29
in the world is Kerakan Hall in
1:09:31
Japan like the holy site for wrestling
1:09:33
in fire pro wrestling. There's a venue called
1:09:36
Yuriken Hall So it's like yeah, they didn't
1:09:38
so it's Kerakan Hall is in fire pro
1:09:40
wrestling So but yeah, so it it
1:09:43
passes all the marks. It's very good Outstanding
1:09:45
love to see it games old
1:09:47
and new That's
1:09:53
pretty much everything I think is there anything else
1:09:55
on anyone's radar anything you guys been playing that
1:09:57
you haven't Gotten into. The
1:10:00
It: I haven't played enough of the bring
1:10:02
it Up Brennan still playing Hades. Odds you
1:10:04
on steam that either. I'll.
1:10:06
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1:10:08
unlock. basically turns the game in. The vampire
1:10:10
survivors across there. is it a lot yet?
1:10:12
either. It's all like it's up. It's
1:10:14
like you hit triangle. And you shoot
1:10:17
fireballs the spin around you. Also it's like
1:10:19
or will Now he is basically a vampire
1:10:21
survivor mode and he's of the conflict. Do
1:10:23
it. But like. It's. Such a unique
1:10:25
weapon and so I really love that would have been
1:10:27
my like I got to the the end of the
1:10:29
third world. Last. The last boss
1:10:32
can't beat it but I I got the
1:10:34
third world is in that weapon so axles
1:10:36
er en masse. Love being outside on both
1:10:38
of em I got. Indigo really took prefer
1:10:41
for arise I will yes I was all
1:10:43
a man. That game was kind of weird
1:10:45
as right of the I'm of it I
1:10:47
was like. If my wife is like
1:10:49
what the fuck you like your I guess
1:10:51
was use like planes on the behind me
1:10:53
and then right at the end than the
1:10:55
last seen as like turnarounds you guys Season
1:10:57
Four episode I smile oh my god and
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like an hour lesson as I'm psyched I'll
1:11:02
grind like Iowa I'm still really her first
1:11:04
twenty minutes so on my family is as
1:11:06
if you I swear to god to go
1:11:08
check out the the quickest a quick lox
1:11:10
is a dead the first opening twenty minutes
1:11:12
of that game which yeah I got on
1:11:14
the i don't spoil that God that game
1:11:16
was that game was not boring though he
1:11:18
said us. A game is not a
1:11:20
boring game. I was a very
1:11:22
fucking weird. Great. Game
1:11:24
Am. There. Is also
1:11:27
a. Is. Or mini documentary.
1:11:29
I saw some couple of videos with
1:11:31
the developers. Who.
1:11:34
Were based in Russia I guess
1:11:36
and a know last and are
1:11:38
vehemently against the am illegal invasion
1:11:40
of Ukraine and they put out
1:11:42
a video about that as well
1:11:44
I guess or another time am.
1:11:47
But. I that and authoritarian mans. They're
1:11:49
just those games and also both
1:11:51
of them. are you ever? And
1:11:53
now I feel bad whoever that
1:11:55
member the lady at our podcast.
1:11:57
Who. Was talk or at as as. Who.
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Came up and said. We. Should
1:12:04
do a documentary on. At
1:12:07
Eleven Bit Studios. And. I
1:12:09
was like oh do a documentary on
1:12:11
a publisher like a seems like you
1:12:13
know Now I get it because they
1:12:15
put I put those games, would like
1:12:18
to watch Three's Other and their boat
1:12:20
like very weird and very cool so
1:12:22
if she listening I'm apologies icing the
1:12:24
life Limits ideas in good work at
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that's about. As for the see folks
1:12:29
at the games again we played Animal
1:12:31
well, Little Kitty, Big City, Crow Country
1:12:33
fabled I'm Braid anniversary edition, Fire Pro
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Wrestling and then a brief mentions of
1:12:37
many shooter ventures. Block Throw in the car.
1:12:40
And file our prospects as Dear
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Diary episode do is also a
1:12:45
up on the Dear Diary see
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the unavailable of course on the
1:12:49
nuclear park arsenal as well Ends
1:12:51
in which I interviewed Dave Ashray
1:12:54
about New Blood Interactive and just
1:12:56
a lot of shot about publishing
1:12:58
and am sort of how Fox
1:13:00
things have been for indie dad's
1:13:02
and selling as and lots of
1:13:05
a really cool stuff they was
1:13:07
very i can is about and
1:13:09
the business dealings. Of of running
1:13:11
new blood and and one it's like
1:13:13
and other stuff going on a course
1:13:15
we have thus. Quick. Look
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of in the Car Jane Dev episode four
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I think is going up on Friday am
1:13:22
with the in the can so if not
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up now it will be pretty soon after
1:13:26
the podcast on the weekend maybe goes up
1:13:29
on the weekend. Actually our hard work and
1:13:31
a bunch of other documentaries hyper light. Episode
1:13:33
three should be as. Maybe. On
1:13:35
Friday issues Friday's the request to mark which
1:13:37
one of those goes up am. if
1:13:40
it doesn't know the early next week
1:13:42
we are of course working on documentaries
1:13:44
on dredge as music and sound of
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white bows and at war for to
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swell among a bunch of other stuff
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an exciting as well on the tape
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side is i managed to get a
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new beta com player a deck am
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cost a bit but it didn't cost
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as much as i was
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worrying. There
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is one tape deck that is costing thousands.
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preservation project, I mentioned that it was beta
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cam tapes. I actually got that wrong. It
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was this other type. The beta cam player
1:14:15
we had before was not really working. It
1:14:17
was delivering a fucked up signal,
1:14:19
and I could not fix it. Couldn't
1:14:21
clean the heads on the thing properly. The
1:14:24
beta cam thing is huge, just a massive
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thing. You've got to unscrew so
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much shit to get in there and do it. I
1:14:30
couldn't get it working. The new one
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is super clean. It looks really
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good. I'm getting some SDI converters coming so I
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can get the best signal out of that, but
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I tested it on S-Video. I
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had two beta cam tapes that were sitting there. One
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was Konami's E3 Presswall 2003.
1:14:49
On it it had the Metal Gear Solid
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3 trailer, the really long one. It
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looks so fucking good. I was like,
1:14:56
oh my god. It plays perfectly now,
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which is great because I also have
1:15:00
that entire tape on VHS,
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and it's the one VHS that's broken, that
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I've run through and it's unfurled twice
1:15:09
in VHS players. I've been desperately trying
1:15:11
to fix the tape, but
1:15:13
I was like, if this one works, if
1:15:15
this beta cam tape is the same thing, but
1:15:17
in actual, I think beta is
1:15:19
beta 480i, I think. It
1:15:22
might be 720i. I'm not sure. No,
1:15:25
it has to be hired into 480i. What's
1:15:28
beta cam SP resolution?
1:15:31
Is it 720? It looks like it's 720. Then
1:15:34
the VHS is redundant, so that's kind of what
1:15:36
it is. And then the other one was Konami
1:15:38
2005 E3 Presswall, so it's
1:15:41
just full of fucking trailers. And it seems
1:15:43
like the beta cam tapes are mostly assets
1:15:45
made by studios, which is very exciting because
1:15:48
some of the tapes are not. A lot of
1:15:50
the tapes are just gameplay recorded by some video
1:15:52
game websites. Who knows? Who
1:15:55
could have any number of video game websites it could be? Don't
1:15:58
put me on the spot. So,
1:16:00
yeah, exciting stuff. We're going to have
1:16:02
a lot more very cool, older stuff
1:16:05
going up. I feel like we had a
1:16:07
lot of like sort of 2006, seven,
1:16:11
eight, nine, 10 stuff going up. And now this stuff
1:16:13
looks like it's going a good deal back, back to
1:16:15
like 2002 through maybe
1:16:18
earlier actually in that era. So that's,
1:16:20
that's really cool. That's the
1:16:23
podcast folks. patreon.com/Dokus, if you'd like to
1:16:25
support our work. Jeremy,
1:16:27
what are you doing for the rest of your week? Uh,
1:16:29
working on this documentary, working on
1:16:31
some game dev stuff, uh, cooking
1:16:33
up exciting things on, on both
1:16:36
fronts. Sick. Frank,
1:16:38
what about yourself? Legitimately still trying
1:16:40
to find a therapist in Southern California, which
1:16:42
seems impossible. It's hard to find a good
1:16:44
therapist. Right. But I feel hopeful. I feel
1:16:47
hopeful. But anyways, you got to find
1:16:49
out if it's the right one for you. If
1:16:51
you guys had interests, see
1:16:53
if they got the insurance. If your
1:16:55
insurance covers it, it doesn't just yet.
1:16:57
Just doesn't never does. That's
1:17:00
what I'm leaning towards, but yeah,
1:17:02
whatever. I'm still, you know, the fact that I'm
1:17:04
like, I also had the bike ride thought like,
1:17:06
Hey, looking for a therapist is so stressful. I'm
1:17:08
going to need a therapist. Hey, I'm
1:17:12
filling up my set list. When I see a therapist,
1:17:14
I got a whole like, Oh, Woody Allen. Yeah. Good
1:17:19
stuff. Jesse, what about yourself? Uh, we're going
1:17:21
to go see Hades town tomorrow. First time
1:17:23
seeing that musical. I'm excited for
1:17:25
that. Since Toronto. The Zinsky's Hades town.
1:17:27
That's right. They, no, no, actually, uh,
1:17:29
Greg Kasavin's Hades town. They brought it
1:17:32
back to the real now. Yeah. It's, uh,
1:17:35
excited for that. Can't wait. I haven't listened to any other
1:17:37
music yet. So I'm excited to just be like, I've
1:17:39
heard so many good things. Uh, and Lorelei
1:17:41
and the laser eyes comes out tomorrow
1:17:43
as well as of recording this, so
1:17:45
on Thursday, what is that? It's
1:17:48
a, it's a new puzzle game
1:17:50
from the studio. What are they called? Simogo,
1:17:53
um, who did sign our wild hearts.
1:17:57
Couple other things. Uh, it has been getting.
1:18:00
reviews it looks like assume you know you mentioned
1:18:02
251 Frank it looks like a 251
1:18:04
game looks like that like killer seven era style
1:18:07
of games so I'm very very excited for that one I can't
1:18:09
wait to play that I'm sure I'll talk about on the pod
1:18:11
next week among the other thing you go like
1:18:14
it does looks like it looks like
1:18:16
some grasshopper manufacturer bullshit it's been
1:18:18
by some oh go yeah okay
1:18:21
nice man too many
1:18:23
games so many games I
1:18:25
feel I have a feeling this is the
1:18:27
pre-kelly rush this is just you know we're
1:18:29
getting a bit of pre-kelly here the
1:18:33
first drip for pre-kelly keep
1:18:36
that one to himself hey man it's
1:18:38
all about the releases you know I mean
1:18:40
oh world though yeah I don't know I
1:18:42
have a feeling we're getting a bounty of
1:18:44
them here so don't panic folks I think
1:18:46
it usually does get a little bit slower
1:18:49
in the summertime yeah people are getting their
1:18:51
releases out of the way ahead of the
1:18:53
announcement of Dante's Inferno remastered I mean
1:18:56
people are literally
1:18:59
getting their editor because all that Assassin's Creed shit
1:19:01
came out today as well yeah that's right yeah
1:19:04
Frank I was gonna say there's so many boobs and Dontos
1:19:06
Inferno so if that gets announced I'm gonna be I think
1:19:08
there is a
1:19:13
certain look there is a certain a
1:19:15
thirsty side of video
1:19:18
games a lot of
1:19:20
whom are angry at stellar blaze who if
1:19:22
Dante's Inferno came out Oh would demand do
1:19:25
you remember all the weird stuff they did
1:19:27
when they're promoting that game oh yeah like
1:19:29
were they the ones rage people they
1:19:32
said they sacrifice a goat as well there was
1:19:34
a lot of like booth baby stuff going on
1:19:36
but I think they might have sacrificed a goat
1:19:39
at a at a level like how
1:19:41
the life poultry you know what you
1:19:44
know what yeah maybe the line has has
1:19:47
shifted that is one thing that's very weird
1:19:49
about a lot of these tapes is going
1:19:51
back and seeing promotional stuff
1:19:53
from e3s of past and the
1:19:56
objectification of women in this
1:19:59
industry was completely insane.
1:20:01
Like, just like absolutely, like,
1:20:03
it's not even, it was
1:20:05
the amount of it, I
1:20:07
think, it was so
1:20:09
commonplace that if you didn't have
1:20:12
booth babes, like, it was
1:20:14
like, why didn't you have them? Like, it's so, there's
1:20:16
been a couple of videos of going back and we've
1:20:19
had a bunch of the videos go up as well,
1:20:21
where it's just like, man, this is, and
1:20:23
especially the ones in Tokyo, actually, weirdly enough. Like, there's a
1:20:25
couple of tapes with TGS stuff in it, and you're like,
1:20:27
man, this is, it's, and
1:20:29
I even remember at the time thinking this
1:20:32
was weird. Like, tuning in from Ireland
1:20:34
and being like, why? Like,
1:20:37
it's weird when it's cars, and it's weird when
1:20:39
it's like, I don't know, what else is a
1:20:41
design, like, watch it, I don't know, whatever, this
1:20:44
whole thing used to be so much more, but especially a
1:20:46
video game, it just seems like, like,
1:20:48
why, why is this, is
1:20:50
this all because some marketing person saw
1:20:53
Lara Croft get popular, and now this is, we've had
1:20:55
to deal with 15 fucking years
1:20:57
of this, I don't know, anyway. Who
1:20:59
knows, I'll dig in the tapes for some more of
1:21:01
that good stuff. That's it,
1:21:04
that's the podcast, patreon.com/Notepad. Thanks for
1:21:06
listening, and we'll see you next
1:21:08
week, bye. Bye.
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