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33:11

Willow is tall. She's wearing boots.

33:13

She's wearing sunglasses. She looks incredible.

33:15

She looks very surprised to see

33:17

someone in the house that she's

33:19

staying in. And

33:21

Riley, who has driven Willow and her children

33:23

here is like, oh, this is my friend

33:26

Mia. And Mia is like friend,

33:29

friend. Mia is

33:32

like, hello, it's so nice to meet you. I'm in

33:34

the same MFA program as Riley. Riley.

33:36

Oh God. It's a pleasure.

33:38

Like I love your work. Her

33:43

hair is dripping. Like the top of her

33:45

shirt is wet. Oh my God. This

33:48

is not the impression that she wanted to make. No.

33:51

I'm so sorry. Like the school car doesn't

33:53

have windshield wipers, but like all of your stuff is

33:55

here that you need. Okay.

33:57

Okay. Okay. there.

34:00

Also, that shows dedication. It's like, oh my

34:02

gosh, I got you all these things. I

34:04

had to get... Yeah. ... doesn't have windshield

34:07

wipers, but I made it work and everything

34:09

is set for you. That's impressive in its

34:11

own way. And one thing Mia

34:13

knows is how to not overstay her welcome.

34:15

So she's like, welcome to your house. I

34:18

hope you have a great time. Riley and

34:20

I are leaving. Goodbye. Right? Yeah. And

34:22

Riley is like, oh my God, what happened to

34:25

you? And she's like, I don't want to talk

34:28

about it, but you were really right about Clifford.

34:30

Yeah. The next day,

34:32

Mia has to go pick up the author to drive

34:34

her to events. So

34:36

she drives over, she like parks

34:39

Clifford in the driveway. She gets out,

34:41

she knocks on the door. Willow opens

34:43

the door and out from the front

34:45

door runs a ferret.

34:49

Oh my God. I

34:51

mean, no disrespect. No

34:54

disrespect to people for their choice of pet. I'm

34:56

going to tell you something right now. Please.

34:59

A ferret looks like a snake and

35:01

a rat had a baby and I

35:03

don't like that. I don't like that.

35:05

Something about that is not right to

35:08

keep in your house. It's not right,

35:10

but a ferret. Mm, mm,

35:12

mm, mm. Willow. Mia

35:14

screeches because a ferret has run through.

35:16

Obviously, yeah. So she's like, and

35:19

then Willow from the doorway is like, Mia, no.

35:21

Wait. And Mia is like, actually

35:23

like, oh my God, I have fucked up already. Right?

35:25

Like she's like, I'm so

35:27

sorry. I just like wasn't expecting to see

35:29

a ferret. And Willow's like, what?

35:32

And Mia's like, you said Mia,

35:34

no. And Willow's like, yeah,

35:36

the ferret's name is Mia. That

35:42

is, I mean, I know it's just

35:44

a coincidence, but that is so embarrassing.

35:46

You, you see the exact same

35:48

name as the little ferret

35:50

that she brought on her trip. Also Willow,

35:52

girl, why are you bringing your ferret on

35:55

the ship? There's no ferret little home that

35:57

they can stay at, like a ferret. or

36:00

something like that. Yeah, Mia's like, my

36:02

name is Mia. And

36:05

then she's like, so me and that ferret have

36:07

the same name. The same name. And

36:10

Willow is like, I think so. OK.

36:14

So. And Willow's like, we have to

36:16

catch the ferret. So they're like running around. And

36:18

ferrets have like weird like spaghetti

36:20

noodle bodies. Yeah. Like they like

36:22

kind of hop around in this

36:24

like unsettling way. Yeah, unsettling is

36:26

right. Person Mia is like chasing

36:29

ferret Mia. And finally, like they

36:31

get it. They're like they have Mia.

36:33

Oh my god. See, they would have had to kick me

36:36

out the pro. I would have been fired because I would

36:38

have been like, I am not helping this lady catch her

36:40

little rat. What's up, Willow baby? That is I

36:42

don't want to get in between family business. You're

36:44

on your own catching this ferret. Sorry. I'm not

36:46

here to catch a ferret. Yeah. So

36:49

they go inside with a ferret. They close it over behind

36:51

them. And Mia is like, she can't

36:53

get over the fact that Willow was like, I think

36:55

that that's her name. I think

36:57

that the ferret is also named Mia. So Mia

36:59

is like, what do you mean you think its

37:01

name is Mia? And

37:03

Willow is like, oh, I'm always getting

37:05

the ferrets confused. Only the girls can

37:08

tell them apart. There's more than one

37:10

ferret. Oh,

37:12

that's I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That

37:15

is now see,

37:17

I'm going to tell you something. I know that

37:19

Mia, real Mia is a fan of Willow. I

37:22

wouldn't be a fan anymore. That would be that for me. That

37:25

is one I cannot cross. That is you

37:27

have the kind. I'm sorry. And to me,

37:29

it's a character flaw. If

37:31

you think it's a character flaw that you think that

37:36

you need to be bringing your two

37:39

exotic pets with you

37:42

for a book festival. If you're such a star,

37:44

if you're such a star and you have all

37:46

this money. Hire someone. Hire somebody that sits at

37:48

your house and ferrets it all week. Get a

37:50

grip. Get a grip. And also, like,

37:52

why do you have so many ferrets that you

37:54

can confuse? That is me. I'm sorry. It's just

37:57

it does not sit right with me. That is a

37:59

character. and what's the other ferrets name

38:01

actually? What's the other ferrets name? Good question. Mia

38:04

is like, how many ferrets are there? Oh

38:07

my God. I assume there's only two. And Willow

38:09

is like, there's just two. Oh, just

38:11

two. Mia and Thermopolis. I

38:15

mean, those are cute names. Okay.

38:18

I do love, I love the Princess Diaries. The

38:21

real Mia is like, I

38:23

love Willow so much. Like this, she's

38:25

so really cool. She's like, okay, so wait, Mia is loving

38:27

the princess. She's so really cool. Okay, so wait, Mia is

38:29

loving this. Mia is loving this.

38:31

Okay. Mia is not loving the

38:34

ferrets, but she is loving that Willow named her ferrets

38:36

after the Princess Diaries. Mia

38:38

Thermopolis. Okay, that's cute. That's cute.

38:40

Good for her. I'm glad. You

38:42

know what, Mia, if you like it, I love it. But yeah, let's go ahead. I

38:45

love that you're like, having a ferret that you take

38:48

to a book festival is a character flaw.

38:51

I do think so. And then you're like, if Mia loves it, I love it.

38:53

Yeah, I mean, if she likes it, I love it. Good

38:55

for you, girl. Good friend. Mia

38:59

is like, okay, great. I'm so glad we've had

39:01

this huge adventure, but we need to go. Like

39:04

yeah, she can pick her up. And

39:06

Willow's like, great, I'm ready to go. So she drives

39:08

Willow to her event, like drops her off. That's

39:10

all perfectly nice. She only stalls Clifford one

39:12

time. She's like, I

39:15

nailed it for her. When

39:17

she sees her in the green room later,

39:19

Willow's like, thank you so much. Like, could

39:21

you go get my girls and Mia and

39:23

Thermopolis and bring them to me

39:25

this after afternoon? Wait, bring

39:27

them to her where? Bring the ferrets

39:30

with her to an event?

39:33

So this book festival is taking

39:35

place in a huge library. Cute.

39:38

Okay. But I don't think that's an appropriate place

39:40

for a ferret or two ferrets. So

39:42

there's like tons of floors and stacks and stuff.

39:44

And the giant library has a stage with like

39:46

a theater, like an amphitheater with a stage that's

39:49

attached to it for like events. Because

39:52

there's a stage, there's like green rooms behind the stage,

39:54

right? So that's like where Willow is set up for

39:56

the week. Like she can keep her stuff there. She

39:58

can decompress. It's like kind of like her little

40:00

home away from home, basically. Exactly. So

40:02

Willow is like, can you get my

40:04

girls and their ferrets and

40:06

bring them to my green room? This

40:10

just seems so unwise to me. This

40:14

seems so unwise. Also, are rodents

40:16

allowed in libraries? Because

40:18

those are rodents. I just want to be clear. Are

40:21

they allowed in libraries? So they

40:23

check with the head of the convention, and

40:26

she's like, whatever Willow

40:28

wants, Willow gets. That's

40:30

poor boundaries. That is, mm-mm, mm-mm,

40:32

mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm. I'm sorry,

40:34

a library is a government building, essentially,

40:36

okay? Yes. You can not just

40:39

bring, I mean. Our taxpayer money

40:41

is not paying for ferrets to rob around.

40:43

No! Like, I mean, I suppose if those

40:45

were her service animals, that's one thing. But

40:47

that does not seem to be the case.

40:49

It seems to me that it doesn't make

40:51

sense that you can just bring your two

40:54

unruly little, squirrely little rodent pets. I agree.

40:56

Into a multi-floor library. Like you said, where

40:58

there's tons of stacks and little services for

41:00

them to, I mean, they could barely find them in the little house. So

41:03

there's too many nasty little places that a

41:05

ferret, two ferrets could hide in a library.

41:07

Oh my God. Mia's like, okay.

41:09

She's like, but I'm not going to get them

41:11

today. So she's like, Riley, good luck. So Riley

41:13

goes and gets the girls, and he brings the

41:15

girls and the ferrets to the green room. It

41:17

all works out fine. The

41:21

next day, Mia's like, same thing. I go

41:23

get Willow in the morning. I take her,

41:25

I drop her off, I get her coffee,

41:27

I help her prep. This

41:29

afternoon Riley's like, I'm in the middle of doing

41:32

something else for her. Can you go get her

41:34

daughters and ferrets and bring them to the green

41:36

room? And Mia's like, totally. She does it. This

41:38

goes fine, except for the fact that she stalls

41:40

Clifford like six times. Okay, but everybody got there

41:42

okay, and the ferrets and everything, the girls, everything's

41:44

fine. On the third day,

41:46

she does the same thing all again. Gets

41:49

the girls and the ferrets, takes them to the green room.

41:51

And the girls are like, we're hungry. And

41:54

Mia's like, no problem. There's like a snack room, I'll

41:56

go get you something, don't worry about it. So she

41:58

goes to get them snacks. she

42:00

gets distracted, right? She's like gabbing. She's gabbing with

42:02

someone because of like, of course, there's someone to

42:04

gap with there. Yeah, yeah. She's been there for

42:06

like 10 minutes when her cell phone starts buzzing

42:08

like crazy. It is

42:11

the group chat for the like, third

42:13

years working this program. Yeah. And it

42:15

says in all caps, Mia is missing.

42:18

No, and Mia is like, I am

42:20

at the snack table. And

42:22

the group is like, not not very Mia. That's

42:25

a nightmare. Oh my God. Mia's like,

42:27

shit. Right? Like, what the

42:29

fuck is she gonna do

42:37

now? How do you find a

42:39

spirit? What is your strategy here?

42:41

My strategy, me as a me,

42:43

not me. My strategy

42:46

is, um, I

42:48

guess somebody else to do it. That's my strategy at that

42:50

point. It's on my hands. You're like,

42:52

someone needs to stay with the girls. Yeah. I'd be like,

42:54

I gotta stay with the girls. But

42:56

I suppose what I would do

42:58

is get everybody together and probably

43:00

put two people on every floor

43:02

or two people in every region

43:05

of the library and

43:07

have people looking. And also one thing that

43:09

I would ask the girls is like, is

43:11

there anything that like Mia

43:13

really loves or is really afraid of?

43:15

So it's like maybe those little like

43:17

chickeny snacks or was it a little

43:19

snacks or whatever? Yeah. So like maybe

43:21

like just little like figuring out how

43:24

how they can like coax. Um,

43:26

like, like, yeah, just getting some clues. I'll

43:28

get some clues and then try to

43:30

split everybody up into like groups or pairs

43:33

to go looking for the ferrets. Yes. This

43:35

is like a full out search committee, right?

43:37

Like they have a strategy. They're splitting people

43:39

up into floors. They're sending people to the

43:41

top floor to work down like they're doing

43:43

all this stuff. They're having to go into

43:46

panels and like look around on the ground

43:48

while people are like talking. I feel like

43:50

if they found a ferret in a crowd

43:52

like somewhere watching people start screaming. Exactly.

43:54

I mean, I would start crying and I would leave. I'll

43:57

get an apply. I would be at the airport. Yeah. Listen to gossip. I

43:59

would not be sitting. I

44:01

wouldn't be still at the book festival. They're looking

44:03

everywhere. Cannot find Mia.

44:06

No. That

44:08

means that Mia has to tell Willow, right? When

44:10

Willow comes back from her event, she's like, I'm

44:13

so sorry. I left the girls to get

44:15

them snacks. All this happened

44:17

while Willow was at her event.

44:21

One of her events. Yeah. So

44:23

Willow was at one of her, all this happened while Willow was at one

44:25

of her events. Mia, girl, you

44:27

know, Mia, girl, I'm trying to

44:30

root for you. I'm trying to

44:32

root for you. But

44:36

if you're put in charge of kids, you

44:38

really can't turn your back for longer than

44:40

two seconds because shit breaks loose. But

44:42

damn, so she has to tell Willow now that all this shit

44:44

has just gone nuts while she's

44:46

gone. She tells Willow

44:48

and Willow is like, Mia is always

44:51

doing this. She's always

44:53

missing. And

44:55

real Mia is like in her head, right?

44:57

Like why would you bring a ferret that's

45:00

always missing on a trip and then make

45:02

me bring the ferret to the library, but

45:04

whatever skill issue. Okay. She

45:06

drives Willow and the one left ferret Thermopolis

45:09

and the two daughters back to their house

45:11

that afternoon. And then

45:13

she gets a text from Riley. It's like, I

45:16

heard you lost the ferret. I don't

45:18

like that tone. Mia's like, excuse

45:20

me. You are equally

45:22

as responsible for losing a ferret

45:25

because we are both on Willow

45:27

duty. Like do not blame

45:29

me for this. I can't do anything. And

45:32

Riley is like, whoa, sorry. I was like really

45:35

just messing with you. And

45:37

she's like, fine. Next

45:41

day, still no ferret. Geez.

45:43

Oh, that's so scary. Okay. Because

45:46

then, oh gosh, it's like, what if it died? You

45:48

know what I'm saying? It could be found like somewhere

45:50

in the library. Yes. Willow's like

45:52

doing her class with undergrads or whatever.

45:54

So she's busy and Mia is like

45:56

also busy because she's like setting up

45:58

trails of treats. that go to like

46:01

cardboard box traps, right? It's like, it's

46:03

giving Tom and Jerry. It's

46:05

giving like, you poke your head into one room and

46:07

then like your head comes out the other door way

46:09

across the hall, right? Like her

46:11

eyes are always on the ground. Oh my gosh,

46:13

she's like constantly setting ferret traps. Yeah. Because

46:16

she's always looking down for the ferret, this

46:18

is how in the afternoon she accidentally opens

46:20

the door to the bathroom, which Willow is in. Oh

46:23

wow, okay, so they are getting really close.

46:25

And she's like, oh my God, I'm so

46:27

sorry, shit. Okay,

46:31

okay, okay. But she's, that's

46:33

embarrassing. She's focused though on

46:35

trying to set these ferret traps. Yes,

46:38

she's like, this sucks, like I

46:40

can't win. The girls are

46:42

upset, they want their ferret back. The

46:45

ferret is nowhere to be found. Like,

46:48

how are you feeling at this point? I'm stressed

46:50

out for her. I also like, I'm just like,

46:52

she's done some things that I wouldn't have done

46:54

in this situation. But I

46:56

know that her heart is in the right place.

46:58

And even just the fact that she's setting all

47:00

these ferret traps, like that's literally so much more

47:03

than I would have given that situation at

47:05

that point. But yeah, I mean,

47:07

it's clear she's under a lot of pressure and this is

47:09

obviously not the impression that she wanted to make. But I'm

47:11

also just like, I just have this

47:13

sneaking suspicion that this ferret is gonna pop

47:16

up at like the worst possible time. And

47:18

it's just, it's like, it's like giving me

47:20

the ickyest feeling, I'm so nervous. While,

47:23

so this is the day before the big

47:25

keynote event, that she

47:27

like walks in on Willow in the bathroom. On

47:29

this same day in the afternoon, the head coordinator

47:32

of the whole festival comes into the green room,

47:35

comes to Mia, and it's like, you're the point

47:37

person on Willow, right? And

47:39

Mia's like, me and Riley, but yeah, me. And

47:42

the coordinator is like, okay, so we've made

47:44

this gift basket for her that

47:46

like, I'm gonna put under the couch and then you can

47:48

like pull it out and put it on the table for

47:50

her while she's on stage, right? So that when she comes

47:53

back off stage, there's this like lovely gift basket there. Mia's

47:56

like, I love this idea, it's so cute. The

47:58

coordinator is like, I have learned that. that

48:00

Willow is a collector of

48:03

a very specific thing. Okay, is

48:05

it ferrets? No. Have

48:08

you ever seen where they slice a wine

48:10

bottle and then it's a cup? Oh yeah,

48:12

yeah, yeah, yeah. I see it last time

48:15

on TikTok, yeah. Yeah, so she collects these

48:17

from local wineries or something? Oh, okay, that's

48:19

cute. Yeah, it's totally cute. But the place

48:21

where this book festival is, there are no

48:23

local wineries that are good. So

48:26

the festival person is like, I don't want to give her one

48:28

of those that everyone hates

48:30

these wineries, that would be insane. And Mia

48:33

is like, okay. And the

48:35

coordinator is like, but I have these like stickers

48:37

that are clear. She's like, so I thought that

48:39

like you could make her one and then

48:41

put the festival logo on it. I

48:44

would have just said no to that. I would have said like that is, I

48:46

mean, that involves like cutting glass,

48:49

right? I'm in an MFA program

48:51

for writing. That's, I'm thinking about

48:53

Mia. I'm getting my, I'm getting, I didn't come here to get

48:55

my MFA in glass blowing, mixed

48:58

media, visual arts, ceramics, none

49:00

of that. So I just

49:02

would have said, absolutely not. That is something

49:04

that seems like it could injure me. And

49:06

you really, this is actually an inappropriate ask.

49:08

That's what I would have said. Mia is

49:11

like, so you're asking me to make a

49:13

glass out of a wine bottle? Hell no.

49:15

That's hard. And the coordinator is like, yes,

49:17

thank you so much. And then she leaves.

49:19

And she leaves. So then what does Mia,

49:21

okay. So what does Mia actually do? Because

49:23

I'm like, she knows that this

49:25

is fucked up. She knows this is a

49:28

bad ask. Yes. Okay. So she texts Riley

49:30

and she's like, Riley, we've got a problem.

49:32

Like the coordinator wants us to make a

49:34

glass out of a bottle of wine. No.

49:36

And Riley's like, I've seen those. They're cool.

49:38

And she's like, I agree that they're cool.

49:40

But we don't have time to do this.

49:42

And Riley's like,

49:45

but you already agreed to it. So

49:47

we have to, uh, Riley. And Mia's

49:49

like, you know what? I did because

49:51

she is 25. That is fair. That

49:53

is fair. I may have made the

49:55

same decision around that. I'm 36 now.

49:58

So I would be like. You would be like,

50:00

no. I literally would have

50:02

said, like, that ship is sailed. Do you have any

50:04

other ideas? Yes. I just would have been like, this

50:06

is not happening. But yes, OK. So these, yeah, she's

50:08

25. OK. Yeah. I see it.

50:11

I see it. Riley's like, OK. So

50:14

when Willow is on stage for

50:16

her keynote tomorrow, she'll be

50:18

there for a whole 90 minutes. So we

50:20

can do this thing in the green

50:22

room while she's

50:24

on stage. Not in the

50:26

green room. Do it. And then we can just

50:29

put it right into the basket. Like, it's so

50:31

convenient. No, y'all, that is

50:33

not the safest place to do that. That's

50:35

not the place to do that at all.

50:37

Yeah. The way that they are supposed to

50:39

do this is that you

50:41

get, like, kitchen twine. And

50:44

you dunk, like, you soak a

50:46

lot of kitchen twine in isopropyl

50:49

alcohol. Right. And then

50:51

you wrap it really tightly around a

50:53

wine bottle. Like, basically, you tourniquet it.

50:55

Uh-huh. And make sure it's even. And

50:59

then you light the twine on

51:01

fire. No. OK. OK.

51:04

So they are going to light.

51:06

They're going to light something that

51:08

has been soaked in alcohol on

51:11

fire. Isopropyl alcohol, as it's

51:13

sold in stores, typically is going to give you

51:15

70% to 90% solution. Right?

51:20

OK. That is a higher

51:22

concentration of alcohol than, like, what's in,

51:24

I don't know, like vodka or something

51:26

like that. And you wouldn't

51:28

set on fire a Molotov cocktail inside.

51:30

You know what I'm saying? So what

51:32

about this is making them think, but

51:34

you know what, though? They're

51:36

in the creative writing MFA. This

51:38

is not an engineering school. And

51:41

to remember that. But this just seems like

51:43

I just, at no point for them to

51:45

do, it's like the alcohol, fire, indoors, glass

51:48

connection. Well, it's fine, because the way it

51:50

works is you light it on fire. And

51:53

then it's only on fire for, like, a

51:55

couple seconds. And then you dunk it into

51:57

really cold ice water. And that the tension

51:59

between. between the heat and the water or

52:01

something, makes it slice. And

52:04

then you can sand it down and then it's a glass. And

52:06

they're like, easy. I

52:09

love their optimism. I love their optimism.

52:11

I will say after watching several videos of

52:13

people doing this, I do not recommend trying

52:15

this. No, I've seen lots of

52:18

videos of people doing this on TikTok and I went

52:20

through a phase, I went through a 46 minute

52:22

phase where I was like, I'm gonna try

52:25

this. I first went through a 46

52:27

minute phase where I'm like, should I buy a

52:29

rug tufting gun? Exactly, I go through that like

52:31

twice a week. But yeah, that

52:33

was what, I only had to go through that

52:35

46 minute phase one time. Before

52:37

you were like, this is out of my league. It's

52:40

just above my pay grade, it's out of

52:42

my league. Glass, fire, also I

52:44

don't even really drink, I don't drink at home

52:46

and I don't have a wine. So like where

52:48

are you gonna get it? Yeah, but okay, so

52:51

their youthful optimism made them be like, yeah, we're

52:53

gonna get it done. Yeah, they're like, this will

52:55

be fine. Mia's like,

52:57

I'll get the wine bottle and the twine,

53:00

you get the ice and like the

53:02

alcohol. The next day is

53:04

the keynote event. And

53:07

Willow is like in her suit, right? She

53:09

like takes her beta blocker, she's like ready

53:12

to go on stage. The

53:15

crowd is packed, they're like so excited

53:17

to see her. It's like immediately a

53:19

frenzy. Mia and Riley are like, this

53:21

looks great, wish we could watch it, but we have

53:23

to go make a fucking glass. Oh my God. They

53:26

go back there. Riley soaks the twine

53:28

in the alcohol. When it's soaked, he takes it out,

53:30

he wraps it around the bottle. They

53:33

set up their like cold water bowl

53:35

filled with ice cubes. And

53:37

he is like, ready? And

53:39

Mia's like, I'm ready. And then

53:41

he lights the twine on fire.

53:44

I am sick to my stomach, like I'm so stressed.

53:46

I just feel like some glass is gonna go into

53:48

someone's eye. This just seems so bad.

53:50

It is a flame. And they're like, oh

53:52

my God, it's working, this is great. Is

53:55

it? As he

53:57

picks up, he has like those gloves