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forget to check out the website. I'm

2:05

Jenna Fisher, and I'm youtil again, baby. We

2:07

were on The Office together, and we're best

2:09

friends. And now we're doing the Ultimate Office

2:11

rewatch podcast just for you. Each

2:14

week we will break down an episode of The

2:16

Office and give exclusive behind the scenes stories that

2:18

only two people who were there can tell you.

2:21

We're The Office, ladies. Hello!

2:25

Hi there! I

2:28

hear our little opening intro, and I

2:30

hear Creed playing. It makes me

2:32

happy. Me too! So,

2:34

just starting with that. It's

2:37

a nice way to start a moment. A

2:39

day? A podcast, for sure. For sure. Our

2:42

podcast, for sure. Well, yes,

2:44

that for sure. You want to

2:46

hear what we're talking about today? Oh, I do. I

2:49

hope it's not a surprise to you. I hope not. It

2:51

is The Whale. It is season

2:54

9, episode 7, written by

2:56

Carrie Kemper and directed by Rodman Flender.

2:58

Do you remember Rodman? I do. He

3:01

was so fun. So fun. And

3:03

I remember being like, Rodman, come back.

3:05

I know. He's directed a

3:07

ton of television, and he has

3:09

a very famous nephew, Timothy Chalamet.

3:11

Can you believe it? Yeah.

3:15

We didn't realize that back then. No. But...

3:17

Well, Timothy Chalamet wasn't Timothy Chalamet back

3:19

then. No. Rodman, we would be asking

3:21

for all the deets on your nephew.

3:23

Yeah. What a talent.

3:25

Like the annoying ants. We would. Yes.

3:29

We would be like, what project is he in now? Yes.

3:32

What's he up to? I noticed he changed his hair,

3:34

and I like it. I think it's his face. Well,

3:36

I love his fashion on the red carpet. Yes. He

3:38

takes rants. He takes rants. And he

3:40

sticks with it. We love him, Rodman. We love him.

3:44

Rodman's listening to this right now, and he's like,

3:46

thank God. Oh, my gosh. All

3:49

right. Here is your summary. Dwight

3:51

is tasked with securing a new client, so

3:53

the ladies in the office attempt to teach

3:55

him how to sell the women. Yeah. Because

3:57

this new client is a woman. That's all

4:00

we know about her at first. Yeah.

4:03

A woman. Oscar is going

4:05

to help Angela investigate her hunch that the

4:07

senator might be having an affair. And

4:10

finally, Jim's telecommuting is not

4:13

quite working out. No.

4:15

He's trying to take a phone call. This

4:17

reminds me of trying to have a private conversation

4:20

when you have a house full of kids.

4:22

You like deck into nooks and crannies, but

4:25

everyone still finds you. Yeah. Yeah.

4:28

I don't know about that particular storyline. I can't

4:30

wait for us to discuss. Ooh,

4:32

good. All right. Fastback number one. This

4:35

episode was written by Carrie Kemper,

4:37

who is the sister of Ellie

4:39

Kemper. And Carrie also

4:41

plays Jan's assistant, Molly. I thought she

4:44

did so great as Molly. Oh, good.

4:46

I want to know more about Molly.

4:49

Well, I reached out to Carrie to ask her

4:51

some questions about this episode. And

4:53

I just love her. I mean, I love these Kemper gals.

4:55

I know. They're such good gals.

4:57

Carrie told me that the original pitch for

5:00

this episode was very different from

5:02

the final script. It

5:04

was originally called Land Jan. They

5:07

knew that they were going to have Jan come back and

5:09

that she was going to be someone we were pitching to.

5:12

And in the original pitch, Pam comes

5:14

into work at the beginning of the day, and she

5:17

is so bummed because she ran into Jan at the

5:19

grocery store and promised to go to lunch with her.

5:22

But then Pam realizes that if she makes

5:24

Dwight go with her, that Jan will probably

5:26

end the lunch early because Jan hates Dwight.

5:29

So Dwight and Pam go to lunch with Jan.

5:31

And while they're there, they realize that she wants

5:33

to give them her business.

5:37

And they start competing for who can

5:39

sell Jan more paper. And it becomes

5:41

very clear that Dwight is horrible at

5:43

selling to women. Okay. So

5:46

Carrie said that Greg read the pitch and

5:49

he zeroed in on one detail, which was

5:51

that Dwight is terrible at

5:53

selling to women. And Greg said,

5:55

that's your story. That's

5:57

what it should be. And also, Jan, I'm going to start with you. Jan

6:00

should be a surprise. It should be a

6:02

reveal. I 100% agree. This

6:05

is the genius of Greg, right? I know that he could

6:07

look at that pitch and then find the two things that

6:09

were going to make it zing. Yes. Yeah.

6:13

So they changed the title to The Whale, and here we are. Carrie

6:16

also said that the Oscar

6:18

Angela Senator storyline was an

6:20

absolute dream. She said the minute

6:23

the writers pitched that and decided

6:25

that that was going to be the storyline

6:27

for this season, the whole story

6:29

just kind of wrote itself. I

6:31

have been so excited to get to these

6:34

episodes because of my whole entire time on

6:36

The Office. I know I had

6:38

amazing scenes with Rain and we got to play

6:40

out the Dwight Angela romance, but

6:42

these scenes with Oscar are some of my

6:44

absolute favorites. And you know,

6:47

you guys remember Oscar and I met doing

6:49

sketch comedy like, my

6:51

gosh, 20 years ago. And

6:53

to be able to do these scenes with him

6:55

was just pure joy. We were giddy. It was

6:58

so fun. Carrie said that the

7:00

two of you together is absolute magic. And

7:03

she said that she felt like this

7:05

particular beat of the story of

7:07

you guys watching this yoga class,

7:09

she said she felt like she

7:12

like won the lottery because this was

7:15

her particular favorite beat of the storyline

7:17

and she got it. Thanks Carrie. I

7:20

know. You know, I also asked Carrie how

7:22

she got her job on The Office because we got a

7:24

lot of mail. People were curious if

7:26

Ellie had anything to do with it. And

7:29

Carrie said that Ellie kind of did, that

7:31

Ellie had been on the show for about a year. And

7:34

she was sitting with Claire Scanlon

7:36

one day and Claire told her

7:39

that Greg and Paul were setting

7:41

some meetings for new potential female

7:43

writers for season seven. And

7:45

Ellie said, my sister is a TV

7:48

writer. But the thing was,

7:50

was that Carrie was an aspiring TV

7:52

writer. She'd never actually had a job

7:54

writing for television. She had

7:56

been the editor of her College Humor magazine, but she

7:58

was at the very beginning. There, but

8:00

he had three spec scripts.

8:03

Do. People know what spec scripts are. I.

8:05

Think we shared about it. They're like

8:07

a script the to write as a

8:09

sample of your work of what you

8:11

can do. Yeah, so you'll pick a

8:13

show that's already on television and then

8:15

you'll write an episode of it. So

8:17

she had written spec scripts of the

8:19

Sarah Silverman program. She did one for

8:21

Thirty Rock and she did one for

8:23

Modern Family. And so

8:26

Claire agreed to pass on her

8:28

Modern Family spec script to Paul.

8:31

And Paul read it and he calls her

8:33

in. He loved it. He

8:35

called are in for a meeting and

8:37

carry was like oh he's just being

8:39

nice cause my sister's on the show

8:42

and listen to what her mom said

8:44

I love their mom Her mom said

8:46

do you think he has time to

8:48

be nice. Oh yeah, that's a

8:50

real meeting. You own it. You got

8:52

yourself in the door without good script.

8:55

Good morning I lay on that So

8:57

carry went to the meeting and she

9:00

said after the meeting he asked for

9:02

another writing sample says she sent him

9:04

a one act play that she had

9:06

written and she got hundred a week

9:09

later. So it's a great story see

9:11

So The Office was your favorite Tv

9:13

so it was or first operating on

9:15

television but you know she has gone

9:18

on to write on some of seriously

9:20

the best stuff on Tv Silicon Valley

9:22

Oh man piece oh the rehearsal. And.

9:25

She's currently co executive producer of The

9:27

Curse, which is now streaming on Paramount

9:29

Plus. Their. Ego. I love that

9:31

story. I also just love the bond

9:33

of sisterhood that only without any hesitation,

9:35

was like my sister's a writer. Yeah,

9:38

So. Great! I know all the

9:40

women in that family helped carry.

9:43

Way like have the courage, the

9:45

confidence and saw blue that he

9:47

I love it! Or

9:49

I suspect number to. another

9:51

big story line in this episode which

9:53

i failed to mention and my summary

9:55

is that all the men in the

9:57

office are growing mustaches vs say are

10:00

Do you say mustache or moose dash? Who

10:03

says moose dash? I realize.

10:05

That's like a muppet. A muppet says moose dash.

10:07

You know what I realize? Is that from Sesame

10:09

Street? No. That's how I... Is

10:12

that how you say mustache is one of your animals?

10:14

Yes. That's how Sunny says moose dash.

10:16

Okay, you guys know. Because they have a little white

10:18

moose dash. Jenna does the voices of her pets. We

10:20

all do. That's why I was

10:23

like, I almost said moose dash. And

10:25

then as I said it out loud, I realized no one says

10:27

that. Just Sunny. Just Sunny. I

10:30

would say oh my god, you have a real enough

10:32

moose dash. And your

10:34

made up voice for him. Yeah.

10:36

Anyway. Alright. So all

10:39

the men in the

10:41

office are growing mustaches

10:43

for Movember. Movember

10:45

is an annual event every

10:47

November. Men grow a

10:50

mustache to help raise awareness for

10:52

men's health issues like prostate cancer.

10:55

And a lot of people do fundraisers in

10:57

conjunction with growing their mustache. We got a

10:59

fan letter from Keith S. in Los Angeles

11:02

who said, I worked for Movember. And

11:04

I worked there in 2012 when this episode

11:06

was written. And I would

11:08

love to answer any questions anyone may have

11:11

about Movember or how we worked with the

11:13

writers to make sure there was an accurate

11:15

representation of our organization. Way to go Keith.

11:17

I love that you wrote in. He said

11:19

he loves the podcast and he's been waiting

11:21

for this episode. So we did

11:23

reach out to Keith. And

11:25

here's what he said. He said the writing staff reached out

11:28

and let them know that they were going to use

11:31

Movember in a storyline but they didn't share the script.

11:34

But they checked to make sure that they were allowed

11:36

to use it in the way they were using it

11:38

and wanted to make sure that they got it accurate.

11:42

He also heard that some of the writers

11:44

had participated in Movember. And I remember that

11:46

Ann. I do too. So

11:48

he said they were just thrilled that

11:50

the office talked about Movember correctly

11:52

and it was such a great public

11:55

platform. He said the whole team had

11:57

a watch party to watch the episode and

11:59

he said they... still share a gif of

12:01

Toby saying, smile if you love

12:03

men's prostates on Slack. Keith said

12:05

the writers also sent over a

12:07

cookie bouquet of mustache

12:09

and office themed cookies when the

12:12

episode aired. I love that.

12:14

Isn't that so sweet? Keith did

12:16

want to say that Movember has come a long way since

12:18

the whale. He said they always

12:20

focused on prostate and testicular cancer but

12:22

they now also raise awareness and funds

12:25

for men's mental health and suicide prevention.

12:28

He said that since 2003 they

12:30

have built a global men's health

12:32

movement funding more than 1300 projects

12:36

and he said our listeners can learn

12:38

more or donate at movember.com. Keith, I

12:40

will put that in our stories with

12:42

a swipe up and thanks so

12:45

much for writing in. Yeah, thank you Keith. Oh,

12:47

one more thing. He did want to give a

12:49

shout out to Lisa, Abby and Caitlin for helping

12:51

him with all these details. Awesome.

12:54

All right, fast fact number three. I'm

12:57

very excited everyone because Angela has

12:59

asked for fast fact number three

13:01

and we are now going to

13:03

have a mailbag moment

13:06

with Angela Kinsey. A

13:09

mailbag moment. By the way,

13:11

Cody who works on Office Ladies told us there's

13:13

even more mail that we

13:16

need to go through. There's been even more.

13:18

A new pile. A new stack of mail.

13:20

Or as Sunny would say, a poll. A poll of

13:22

them all. Well, this

13:24

letter is from Jacqueline and Jacqueline,

13:26

the envelope was a little bent

13:28

in the corner but I think

13:31

you're from Canada. Jacqueline S. from

13:33

Canada. I was trying to

13:35

see the postage stamp. And

13:37

I just loved this letter Jenna and I wanted to

13:39

share it. Jacqueline wrote in and

13:41

said, Dear Jenna and Angela, my husband introduced

13:44

me to the office during the pandemic and

13:46

it took about five minutes before I was

13:48

hooked. While COVID was raging on

13:50

and everything seemed to be in a constant

13:52

state of flux and the unknown, the office

13:55

became my safe place and I quickly benched

13:57

the entire series before going back and watching

13:59

favorite episodes again and again. Just

14:01

when I thought I couldn't love anything

14:03

more, I found the Office Ladies Podcast.

14:06

While it feels odd to thank you

14:08

when we have never properly met,

14:10

having listened to the entire podcast

14:12

twice already, I feel like

14:15

we are friends. I have spent

14:17

countless hours listening to the two of you

14:19

banter back and forth, and because you share

14:21

so much of yourselves each week, it's easy

14:23

to forget you are not my real life

14:25

friends, just having a girl chat, sharing updates

14:27

about your week. I wanted to

14:30

share how much your podcast means to me.

14:32

You've made me laugh, cry, think, and have

14:34

spurred many a deep dive. All

14:36

right. No, I love that. She goes

14:38

on to say that she had a few years of

14:40

real big life transitions. She had her first baby. She

14:43

went on maternity leave, went back to

14:45

work. They renovated their house. Her father

14:48

was diagnosed with cancer, and then she

14:50

became pregnant with their second baby. And

14:52

she writes this, while most of the time

14:54

life can feel a little crazy, your podcast

14:57

is a constant. I listened to it

14:59

while I breastfed, when I couldn't sleep,

15:01

while I cooked and cleaned, when I was in

15:03

the car, when I was crying and needed a

15:05

distraction, and when I wanted to laugh. My

15:08

female friendships are so important to me. And

15:10

while I really do love the Office, it

15:12

is now your podcast that I keep coming

15:14

back to. To me, it

15:16

is a celebration of female friendships

15:19

and relationships, something that the world

15:21

needs more of. Thank you for the

15:23

love and energy and care you put into it

15:25

each and every week. Jaclyn,

15:27

your letter, thank you

15:30

so much for taking the time to write

15:32

that letter. It was

15:35

very touching to me. And wow, you

15:37

have been through a lot in the

15:39

last couple of years. And

15:41

we're happy to be there with you through

15:43

all of it in your ear, keeping you

15:46

company, keeping you distracted. Furring on a deep

15:48

dive? Fearing on a deep dive? Yes.

15:50

And you know, the thing is, is

15:52

that making the

15:54

podcast is that same touchstone

15:56

for me. Coming

15:59

in here each week. Then making this podcast.

16:01

Whatever else is going on in

16:03

my life? All. Of the

16:05

things because we all always have all

16:07

of the thing. Yeah, you know everybody

16:09

is carrying so much. Yeah, and we

16:12

don't know what everybody is carrying that

16:14

everyone that some may. Yeah, and. This

16:16

is that same escape and release

16:19

and laughter and fun for me

16:21

making it. Set. It. Sounds

16:23

like it is for Jacqueline when she listens

16:25

and it makes me so happy. Me to

16:28

a me So happy to read that letter

16:30

Jacqueline thank you for taking the time to

16:32

write as and bike Genocide We're here for

16:34

you! Or. I think that is a

16:36

nice time to take a break. Yes,

16:38

Because when we can that we're going to catch up

16:40

with Andy. He's. On his boat, it's

16:43

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20:09

We are back on Andy's boat and

20:11

he's, I guess, doing some

20:13

form of FaceTime. Wait, I think he's Skyping?

20:16

Skype, yes, Skype. They said Skype? Of course

20:18

I would get that wrong. I'm gonna get

20:20

all of that wrong. Do people still Skype?

20:23

I don't know. I think now we Zoom, right?

20:25

Now we Zoom. We Skyped, then we FaceTimed, now

20:27

we Zoom. I still FaceTime with

20:29

my mom, but she calls it Facebook.

20:31

So she'll say, do you want to Facebook? And

20:34

I'm like, I'm FaceTime. Yeah. But

20:36

I'm becoming my mom. You are,

20:38

slowly. Slowly. He shares

20:40

with everyone that he's been watching Dirty

20:42

Dancing on repeat and he's

20:45

super sunburned because Walter Jr. has

20:47

been hoarding all the sunscreen. Yeah,

20:50

while he's talking with everyone, he

20:53

manages to drop his drinking water

20:55

overboard. Then he drops his

20:57

desalinator overboard. And you know what? He

20:59

looks awful. He looks like he's going

21:01

crazy. I know, he does. Daryl

21:04

says, you know what? He's only been sailing

21:06

for two days. Yeah, I mean, he looks

21:08

like he's been out to sea for months.

21:11

There were some alts within this scene.

21:13

You know when Andy says, be more

21:15

worried about my eyes because they've become

21:17

flaming meatballs in my skull? Yes, yes.

21:19

Here was his alt. If

21:21

you want to worry about some part of my body, worry

21:23

about my eyes. Brush my teeth with

21:25

a sea urchin this AM. Boy.

21:29

I know. I think the writers had a

21:31

lot of fun pitching this Andy boat stuff.

21:33

One of the other lines was he said,

21:35

my skin's too sensitive now. The shirt part

21:37

of my life is over, dudes. He's

21:39

not gonna wear shirts anymore. No. That's it. He's

21:41

done with shirts. He has no sunscreen, but he's

21:44

gonna take off his shirt. That's a great idea.

21:46

Yeah, I know. We had a fan question from

21:48

Olivia B. in Las Vegas who really loved the

21:50

line, keeps my hair out of my stare. I

21:52

love it. Ask me combat the glare bear. I

21:55

loved that line too, Olivia. Olivia

21:57

Wanted to know who wrote that line. Why

22:00

have a guess? Did you find out

22:02

I did? Kerry told me was that

22:04

Brent? It was not but that is

22:06

such a good gas.he loves upon I

22:08

know who. Well that's not upon. It's

22:10

more of a rhyme Rhino but still

22:12

very Brent. Very slant. Okay Kerry said.

22:15

Olivia I am so happy you ask

22:17

this question. It was written by

22:19

a writer Graham Wagner. She said graham

22:22

as a good friend. They went on

22:24

to write on Silicon Valley together and

22:26

she said she completely remembers. Cracking.

22:28

Up and Paulie proceeds office when

22:31

glam pitched. Outline: oh. She's

22:33

so glad you appreciate it as well. Graham

22:36

way to go. As and he's

22:38

dropping everything that's important over the side

22:40

of the boat, including his. Laptop.

22:44

I wrote two words. What? Sambal

22:46

fingers. Because.

22:49

He is a real fumble. things are to social

22:51

thing my dad used to say when we were

22:53

like teenagers clump and through the house and we

22:55

would drop things my down to be like someone's

22:57

got a case of the fumble fingers. Will.

23:00

All have you know we really sought

23:02

that on a boat. We sought Andy

23:04

side of the conversation the week prior

23:07

when we were shooting the boat and

23:09

getting that shot as a laptop.

23:11

Going into the water was a really

23:13

time consuming shot I bet. So what

23:16

they did was are cinematographer put a

23:18

waterproof Go Pro camera. And

23:20

he attached it to a stick because

23:23

they had to make sure that the

23:25

camera didn't really think right, but they

23:27

also had to make sure it looks

23:29

realistic. So. It was like

23:31

many times have someone like. Using

23:34

this go pro on a stick to

23:36

look like fall and then Ma and

23:38

all that sort of stuff. Also during

23:40

the scene we had a real boat

23:42

captain. his name was Chris Roberson and

23:44

he was laying on the bottom of

23:46

the cockpit driving the boat. Oh my

23:49

cause the whole time we did the

23:51

shots seems like hidden. But. yeah

23:53

you know the very last moment where

23:55

andy says he strikes suppose and as

23:57

like lead to speed the lasting memory

23:59

of on a boat, you know? I

24:01

have a background catch at one minute 27

24:03

seconds. What's that? Pam, Daryl,

24:05

Angela, Phyllis, Oscar, and Aaron are

24:08

all watching Andy as he drops

24:10

his computer into the water. You

24:12

even hear us react like, oh,

24:15

and then at one minute 36 seconds we're all

24:17

gone. Only Aaron and Daryl

24:19

remain. We left immediately. Immediately. I

24:23

remember shooting that that morning, Angela. You know,

24:25

we were not really live with him. No.

24:28

But they did bring it up

24:30

on the computer and I remember

24:32

being like legitimately shocked when I

24:34

saw the makeup job of his

24:37

like, his face, his lips were

24:39

so disturbing. I think they used

24:41

our real reaction. I remember

24:44

it. I remember being completely horrified. Oh my

24:46

gosh. Oh my god, Ed, what happened to

24:48

you? Well, let's get

24:50

into the meat of this episode or

24:52

should I say the blubber of this

24:54

episode. David Wallace is going to call

24:57

Dwight and tell him some news. Yeah.

24:59

He's very excited, puts him on speakerphone

25:01

only to want to take him off

25:04

speakerphone because he doesn't want Jim to

25:06

hear. Well, I mean, Jim

25:08

rips the handheld part off the main

25:10

phone and now he's got to be

25:12

on speaker. Yes. And what we learn

25:14

is that the Scranton white pages have

25:17

dropped their paper supplier of 10

25:19

years and they are up for grabs and

25:22

he wants Dwight and Jim to go

25:24

and get this business. He

25:27

says he wants the top salesman, which

25:29

is Dwight. Yeah. Dwight is over the

25:31

moon. So excited. So excited. He has

25:33

a talking head where he says the

25:36

white pages aren't something that you want or need,

25:38

but it shows up on your doorstep anyway and

25:41

there's a reason why it's called the

25:43

white whale and then he flips through

25:45

all the pages and he says, look

25:47

at all that sweet blubber. Mm-hmm. Need

25:50

a lot of paper to make the white pages. This is a big

25:52

score. I think it might be time

25:54

for a little mini, a mini dive on

25:57

the white pages on the first ever phone

25:59

book. Oh, the first ever. I

26:01

was so curious. I was like, you know,

26:03

I love an origin story. So

26:06

here's a little bit about the first phone book ever.

26:08

It all went down in

26:10

Connecticut. Connecticut. And he would be so

26:12

proud. Yeah. Here's what the UConn library

26:15

website had to share. George

26:17

Coy was the manager of a telegraph

26:19

office in New Haven, Connecticut, and

26:21

he attended a demonstration of the

26:24

telephone by inventor Alexander Graham Bell

26:26

in April 1877. This

26:30

led to Coy establishing the world's

26:32

first public telephone exchange in

26:34

January of 1878. Lady,

26:38

it says he used carriage bolts, teapot

26:40

lids, and wire to make

26:42

a switchboard of eight lines. I

26:45

mean, this feels like a little MacGyver

26:47

action. Yeah. Right. It feels like something

26:49

your kid does in science class. I

26:52

know, but it works. And the New

26:54

Haven District Telephone Company was established and

26:57

it was the first public telephone company

26:59

in the world. Wow. The

27:02

company established another first. It

27:05

produced the first ever telephone directory. The

27:07

directory listed 50 customers with

27:10

no phone numbers. Oh

27:12

yeah. How do I call them? Well,

27:14

to us now, this might seem odd,

27:16

but back then, how many pages was

27:18

this? It was, I

27:20

mean, just three pages. It's like a

27:22

little pamphlet. I saw a picture of

27:24

it. Okay. Here's how it worked. Since

27:26

every call was connected manually, you know,

27:28

you didn't dial a number. No, you

27:30

were connected by a central switchboard operator

27:32

and the subscriber list

27:35

was so small, no numbers were necessary.

27:37

Sure. You would just dial up the

27:39

person, the switchboard, and you'd be like,

27:41

connect me to whoever.

27:43

Right. Yeah. Angela Kinsey, if you were

27:45

in the pamphlet, I'd know you have

27:47

a phone. That's right. Huh. What's

27:50

amazing is this company grew and went

27:52

through many different configurations, but

27:54

it provided independent telecommunication service to

27:56

the state of Connecticut until 1998.

28:00

Wow, I know I love reading about

28:03

the origin of things but also reminded me of

28:05

a simpler time and When

28:08

I moved to Archer City, Texas Mm-hmm,

28:10

I would ask for people's phone numbers

28:12

and they would just give you four

28:14

digits because the first ones were

28:16

all the same Yes, and the town was

28:18

so small So I

28:20

moved from Indonesia, you know, and

28:22

then I moved to this small town and I thought everyone just

28:24

had four numbers That's so funny.

28:27

And when I went to college, I would be like,

28:29

what are your four numbers? Yeah,

28:31

I know it's just crazy to think about people were

28:34

like don't you need all of them Ang? I'm like,

28:36

no, I just need four and they're like, nope the

28:38

last four. Nope. Do you remember? 411.

28:40

Yes. Is that still a thing? like

28:44

you used to call up 411 and be

28:46

like I'm looking for the phone number of

28:50

Something like Lewis's tires. I don't

28:52

know. Should we call it? Sure.

28:54

I mean I'm scared What happens when

28:56

you dial 411 now not be scared? Well, what

28:58

are we gonna ask for? As

29:01

for a Pizza Hut, okay The

29:06

service you are calling is not available from

29:08

this location. Oh, if this is an emergency

29:10

Oh Well, we'll

29:12

never get Pizza Hut now. Nope. I'm

29:15

just gonna go without pizza today. I guess now

29:17

you have me hungry for pizza. Sorry Well,

29:20

there you go. A little bit of the origin of

29:22

the first phone book The first phone book would not

29:24

have been a whale. It would have been

29:26

like a little like a minnow Yes

29:29

Also during this phone call with David Wallace

29:32

Dwight asks if Tom Peterman is

29:34

still in charge of the white pages account We

29:37

find out no, it is now run

29:39

by a woman, but David doesn't know her name

29:42

Phyllis immediately perks up. She's like

29:44

no, no, no Dwight cannot handle

29:46

this sale. He is horrible with

29:48

women Yes, he kept calling Gina

29:50

Rogers Jina. Yes She

29:53

said she had to correct him five

29:55

times. Dwight says Jina said that This

29:58

scene was actually longer and. The shooting

30:00

draft Dwight then turns to Angeles and

30:02

ass or did I ever make you

30:05

feel uncomfortable. This. Is how it read.

30:08

Dwight. False. Angela Did

30:10

I make you uncomfortable when I'd have sex with

30:12

you in the warehouse? Angela quickly for

30:14

camera. I was a virgin before marriage and

30:16

I have never set foot in a warehouse.

30:20

Hopes They let us do a bunch of takes

30:22

and in one we improvised and it made it

30:24

into deleted scenes. I want you to hear it.

30:27

Dwight. You make women feel uncomfortable.

30:29

That oh, come on that issue

30:31

or true Angela when we would

30:33

have meetings in the warehouse. Did.

30:36

I make you feel uncomfortable. Of

30:38

those meetings were very brief. Boring.

30:42

Even. Remember them

30:44

being. Well, they weren't. Oh

30:47

and or that is so funny I

30:49

know as such a good improv, it

30:52

was so fine when I was. I

30:54

was very brief doesn't rain safe and

30:56

Dwight was like okay. Oh

31:01

so this is not gonna let this go

31:03

you guys. She's like listen and account the

31:05

size could double. Their. Gross. You

31:07

know their salaries are bonuses. Pizza

31:10

Friday to come back. There.

31:12

I can be able to call Pizza Hut though. Not.

31:14

With for one while they're not

31:17

Pm says jim can you go

31:19

instead but he can't He has

31:21

his first board meeting conference call

31:24

for his new business. Yeah, yeah,

31:26

so. He's. Busy. Dwight.

31:29

Gonna run point on this. Oh now

31:31

like a lan. Meanwhile we have this

31:33

whole other story line that really cracked

31:35

me up. We talked about it, Movember.

31:39

Pete. Of going to enter the break room.

31:41

I don't even know what you would title this.

31:43

Dashi and the break room I guess. so. Moose,

31:45

the Us is a perfect ruthless in the break

31:48

ways. He's got a little mustache and so do

31:50

Daryl, clerk and cousin. They're all very unsafe and.

31:52

Patent. Clerk have a joint talking head where

31:54

they say Toby got them to participate in

31:56

Movember. And are going to have mustaches

31:59

the whole month. So. You know, hope

32:01

you like been turned on all the time. Toby.

32:03

Enters and he has a. And

32:06

only very low at it's a

32:08

it's a squirrel, it's they were

32:10

all tail keys. Very proud. He

32:12

can clearly grow a mustache. a

32:15

very hardy mustache when she. When

32:18

Paul was on set with that I

32:20

remember losing it because it was so

32:22

wispy and secured in that doesn't down

32:25

on his chin. I want you to

32:27

know lady when Toby says that he

32:29

has very fertile hair glance Yes. I.

32:33

Googled that I wondered if it was

32:35

a things oh, fertile hair glance. yeah.

32:38

Do. You want to know the very first thing that comes

32:40

up when you just type in. Fertile.

32:43

Hair glance. Through. Sixty

32:45

one is a photo of Toby

32:47

is no, yeah, it's the very

32:50

first thing that comes up. I

32:52

didn't feel like I'd go any

32:54

further than that. Okay, that was

32:56

amazing. Paul Libor seen just so

32:58

you know on Google. If you

33:00

type in fertile hair glands, a

33:02

photo of you because of that

33:04

is pretty incredible. Will. Toby is

33:06

so delighted that these guys have participated

33:09

in most Ember because he's got a

33:11

buddy group now. they are bonded over

33:13

there mustache and they're all back in

33:15

the an axe hanging out. They go

33:17

to lunch, they do stuff together, hanging

33:19

out. The. Scene was longer increases

33:22

Gonna share about a time she grew

33:24

a mustache. I think we should hear

33:26

it. I had a mustache

33:28

for alleged friends coldest tickler. To

33:31

get right norms. It. Well

33:35

under say that was a good at it.

33:38

That they to tell creed saying is

33:40

lady friends told them that tickler Yes

33:42

oh it cracks me up. Well.

33:45

I'll tell you what cracked me up this next

33:47

scene. Is. One

33:49

of my favorites. Oscar is doing

33:52

some fall cleaning. Teeth. Cleaning

33:54

out his desk drawer. I want you

33:56

to know every single bit about that

33:58

desk drawer was scripted. I know,

34:00

I looked it up, I was like, what

34:03

was this bit? All of

34:05

it, the whole thing, all the details were scripted.

34:08

He's cleaning out this drawer and

34:10

Angela says, I think the senator

34:12

is having an affair and the

34:14

drawer comes unhinged in his hands.

34:17

It is so good. And you know when

34:19

that happens, it's like, you can't get it

34:21

back in there. No, no. Carrie

34:23

Kemper said this is her favorite scene.

34:26

She said she originally scripted it a little

34:28

differently. She said it was originally scripted in

34:30

the kitchen and Oscar was going to be

34:33

toasting some bread and you were going to

34:35

come in and say, I think the senator

34:37

is cheating on me and he was going

34:39

to accidentally knock the toast lever up and

34:41

the toast was going to go flying in

34:43

the air and he's going to like swat

34:45

at the toast. She said it

34:48

was a little much. It got changed

34:50

to the desk drawer gag, but she

34:52

said she just loved seeing Oscar do

34:54

physical comedy and she really, she still

34:56

kind of wishes that she would

34:58

have gotten her toast gag because she thinks Oscar would

35:00

have killed it and she wanted to see your reaction

35:03

of him like swatting toast. It was

35:05

just so funny. I can't even imagine him swatting toast.

35:07

I wouldn't have been able to get through it. Also,

35:12

Oscar feigning surprise or any

35:14

emotion like that is just,

35:17

he's brilliant. He's such a good actor.

35:20

This cuts to a talking head with

35:22

Oscar. He shares that he has had

35:24

nightmares about this exact scenario and

35:27

he wakes up in a sweat and makes Angela's husband

35:29

spoon him back to bed. Well,

35:31

there was actually one more scripted line

35:33

after that line. It's in the

35:35

shooting draft and I thought I'd read it

35:38

to you. All right. After he

35:40

says I would make Angela's husband spoon me back

35:42

to bed, he would then

35:44

look ashamed and then look at camera and

35:46

say, I'm one cold motherfucker. There

35:51

was also a candy bag alt. It was a must

35:53

shoot, so we did shoot it. Oscar

35:55

would have said, I have nightmares in

35:57

which Angela walks in on the senator and me. I

36:00

also have nightmares in which Angela and I

36:02

have lunch. It's weird. Angela's in all my

36:04

nightmares. I kind of

36:06

love that. I did too. I

36:09

love that the idea of the two of them having

36:11

lunch is a nightmare. Well, Angela

36:13

confides an Oscar that the senator

36:17

has a secret little smile on his face

36:19

when he comes home in the morning. An

36:21

Oscar makes a noise like, aww. And

36:25

also, she says, the senator

36:27

is always at this yoga studio. He

36:30

never misses noon hot yoga with

36:32

Blake. And Oscar's like, you

36:35

have nothing to worry about. Blake is

36:37

also a guy's name. So he could

36:39

be spending the day wait with the

36:41

guy. Wait a second. Yes. And then

36:43

Oscar's like, who is this Blake? And

36:45

Angela's like, yeah. And Oscar's like,

36:47

I never heard anything about the senator doing

36:49

yoga, you know, from you. And I'm like,

36:51

right? What's with all the

36:54

yoga? Exactly. And then Oscar's like,

36:56

OK, calm down. But we have to check this

36:58

out. And Angela's like, what? Yeah, he's

37:00

like, I'll go with you. I loved

37:02

every second of this scene. Delicious. It's so

37:04

good. I always thought a really

37:06

fun spin off would be Angela and Oscar being

37:08

roommates. You know, when Angela moves in with him,

37:10

we're not there yet. But I

37:13

remember telling Greg, if I could see anything

37:15

more of this show, it'd be Angela and

37:17

Oscar living together. It's like the

37:19

odd couple. Yes. That's a really good

37:21

idea. I know. All

37:23

right, now we're going to go into

37:25

the conference room. And a bunch of

37:27

the women in the office are trying

37:29

to teach Dwight how to

37:31

pitch to a female client. Yeah. It's

37:34

not going great. No. No.

37:36

They try to do some role playing.

37:38

But Dwight is just creepy. Yeah.

37:41

Dwight's like, no, I'm going to tell her what her

37:43

needs are and fill them all within 12 minutes. And

37:46

everyone's like, OK, pump the brakes, buddy.

37:48

We had a fan question from Zoe

37:50

M. in Arkansas who said, I

37:53

was wondering if Nellie's lines about

37:55

Dwight murdering women were improvised. It

37:57

appears that Rainn Wilson almost breaks

37:59

after. Catherine Tate finishes delivering her

38:02

lines. Well Zoe,

38:04

they were scripted. Yes, they were.

38:06

And afterward, Pam had a talking head.

38:09

Here's what I said. I just want

38:11

to make it clear that Dwight would never

38:13

willingly harm a woman. Although

38:15

if she steps into one of his booby traps, that's on

38:18

her. Well, yeah. That

38:20

goes for anyone. Yes, man or woman. That's

38:22

true. Or animal. That's on you.

38:25

That's right. I have a coffee mug

38:27

call back. Ooh, I bet I know

38:29

which one it is because Tess from

38:31

London, England spotted it as well. Tess,

38:33

did you see Meredith's coffee mug? It's

38:36

the one where Kelly gives everyone a mug that

38:38

came to her America's Got Talent party. Yes.

38:42

Good catch, guys. I still have mine. I

38:44

didn't get one. Pam didn't get

38:46

one. I like that we're sing-songy. We're doing

38:48

that thing. Like, I didn't get one. Well,

38:51

I did. That's right. As if I'm

38:53

not still bitter about it. Ooh, I'm not angry. That

38:55

one, not me. If I sing it, if I sing it, I'm not

38:57

pissed. Well,

38:59

Jim is going to start his big conference call. And

39:02

guess what? He learns he's the

39:04

only one calling in. Everyone else is in

39:06

person in the meeting. Yeah. And

39:09

Kevin keeps distracting him. I

39:11

love that they had him start with that wrapper

39:14

because someone opening up a noisy

39:16

wrapper of like any kind of

39:18

food item would make me crazy.

39:21

Crazy. Well, Jim is

39:24

trying to, I guess he starts whispering and

39:26

they make fun of him for that. Then

39:28

he tries to fix his voice and then

39:30

they make fun of him for that. So,

39:33

that Batman. Fan question from

39:35

Samantha L. in Tampa, Florida. Samantha

39:38

says, is it just me or

39:40

are Jim's colleagues at his new company kind

39:42

of being jerks? I think they're a-holes.

39:44

Yeah. She says him whispering

39:47

or talking in a deeper voice really isn't

39:49

that big of a deal. Isn't

39:51

one of them supposed to be his friend from college?

39:53

This has always bothered me. Am I the only one?

39:55

You are not the only one. I kind of felt

39:57

like they were making fun of him or being- cool

40:00

for school and exclusive. I didn't care for

40:02

it. I didn't like it. I

40:04

didn't like it that they had absolutely

40:07

like no compassion or patience. I

40:10

agree Samantha. I agree Samantha. Well, we're going

40:12

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40:14

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40:16

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40:18

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40:22

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40:27

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All right we are back and here are

42:33

Pam's selling to women

42:35

rules. Okay let's hear it. Listen.

42:38

Respect physical space. No

42:41

eye rolling. Don't

42:44

insult body. Don't compliment

42:46

body. Don't mention body at

42:48

all. And then she's like

42:50

Dwight are you even listening because he just looks

42:52

like a statue?

42:54

Yeah. And he's like

42:56

yes and then she's like look see what

42:58

I'm doing I'm looking at you and I

43:00

am nodding and I shows you that I

43:02

am listening and Dwight starts to do that

43:05

and it's just so creepy. So

43:08

so creepy. The ladies

43:10

are not convinced that Dwight can do

43:12

this. Meredith says we're screwed and then

43:14

Phyllis tries some role-playing and says Dwight

43:16

ignore every instinct you have they're all

43:18

garbage okay. You're the woman. I'm the

43:20

salesman. Watch what I do and try

43:22

to learn. So Phyllis says Miss

43:25

Thomas good to see you Dwight says hello.

43:27

Phyllis goes oh are those your kids they're

43:29

so cute they could be models. Dwight

43:31

says thank you I'm so proud of them.

43:33

I carried each one of them for nine

43:36

months inside my torso and then pushed them

43:38

out of my vagina. Phyllis had to turn

43:40

her head did you see it she's breaking.

43:42

She's full-on breaking and had to physically turn

43:44

away from the table. I did

43:47

notice it and you know who else

43:49

noticed it? Destiny B from Folsom California

43:51

noticed it. It's at 10 minutes and

43:53

20 seconds. Yes Destiny she's totally breaking

43:56

and then right after that

43:58

line Meredith says boom. So,

44:00

weird. Well

44:03

Pam decides she needs to go with Dwight. Yeah.

44:06

So, they're in the car together and

44:09

she says, Dwight, you know, there's a

44:11

lot of benefits to getting along with

44:13

women. Yeah, Dwight's like, Pam, I don't

44:15

have a problem with women. I have

44:17

a problem with business women. Mm-hmm. Because

44:20

they wear these suits and they have shoulder pads. He's

44:22

very, very put off by shoulder pads. Yeah,

44:24

he says, don't lie about your shoulders. Yeah.

44:27

And I have a fan question from Samantha

44:29

L. in Tampa, Florida, who says, Dwight

44:32

kind of has a point here. Why

44:34

on earth were shoulder pads ever a trend? I

44:37

thought about Googling it, but I had a suspicion

44:39

that the office ladies who Google might already be

44:41

on the case. You're not wrong. Can

44:44

we get a breakdown on the history of

44:46

women's shoulder pads, please? Samantha, I want you

44:48

to know whenever there's a line like this

44:50

in an episode like the phone book, the

44:53

shoulder pads, Jenna and I get very excited. We're

44:55

like, are you taking shoulder pads? I want phone

44:57

book. It's true. I took shoulder

44:59

pads. Yeah. And here is your

45:01

brief history of the shoulder pads. You

45:04

might be interested in hearing that

45:06

shoulder pads did not originate in women's

45:08

clothing. The very first shoulder pad was

45:10

invented in 1877 by a Princeton football

45:12

player. I

45:15

was going to say, isn't that like

45:17

a sports thing? Yes, it was first

45:19

used in American football. The first shoulder

45:21

pads in fashion became popular

45:24

in the 1930s

45:26

when fashion designers Elson

45:28

Chaparelli and Marcel Rochas

45:31

started including them in their designs for women.

45:33

Joan Crawford famously wore shoulder pads

45:35

and they became quite a trend

45:38

in the 1940s. But

45:40

we all know the shoulder pad from the

45:42

1980s. They were the

45:44

defining fashion statement of the 80s. It

45:47

became known as power dressing. It

45:49

gave you the perception of status.

45:51

It gave the appearance of authority

45:53

and confidence. This is also

45:56

why a lot of military uniform jackets,

45:58

both men and women's, almost always

46:00

have padded shoulders. Shoulder

46:03

pads for women also make

46:05

the shoulders and hips appear

46:07

wider, thus making your

46:10

waist look smaller. It

46:12

gives you the illusion of an hourglass figure.

46:15

They've had minor comebacks since the 80s, but

46:17

really nothing as impactful. I

46:20

had a question when I was reviewing this. Why

46:22

do I need an hourglass figure? Why is

46:25

that like the thing? Like

46:27

why do I need a tiny waist? And by the way,

46:30

just full disclosure, this might

46:32

be a question I'm asking because

46:34

I don't have a waist. I

46:36

have a cylinder for a body

46:38

of like a just like a what it would like. I

46:41

don't go in. No, no, no. Maybe

46:44

I did when I was younger. Yes, everyone does

46:46

when they're younger. But do you remember, I mean,

46:48

there's a point in your life where you go to

46:51

your family reunion and you're in

46:53

your 20s and you're looking out at your

46:55

aunts and they're all talking by the food

46:57

table and they all look like marshmallows with

46:59

like toothpick legs. Yeah, that's the

47:01

phase of life we're at. We're

47:03

marshmallows with toothpicks. We've lost

47:05

our waist. It happens. It does

47:07

happen. And you know what? The

47:09

fashion though is still designed for

47:12

the waist. Not for the marshmallow.

47:14

I know. I know. And

47:16

we need more fashion for the cylinder body.

47:18

Yes. Not for the hourglass.

47:21

No, for the straight, for the rectangle. I

47:23

don't know what you would call it. Yes,

47:25

I call it a marshmallow. But I go

47:27

from my shoulder to my hips. It's

47:30

just a straight line. Yes. Right.

47:33

Yeah. So it wouldn't matter if you put shoulder

47:35

pads on me. No, it wouldn't. It's

47:38

not. There's still no waist happening.

47:40

You'd have to put giant shoulder pads

47:42

on me. They never worked on me

47:44

because shoulder pads are like one size

47:46

fits all. But guess what? Not all

47:48

shoulders are the same size. So

47:51

you put a shoulder pad on me that you

47:53

would put on someone taller. And

47:55

I lost my neck. It was like a

47:57

little head sitting on these two little... I

48:00

don't know. I looked like a turtle. I

48:03

just remember that movie Working Girl. There were

48:05

so many shoulder pads on, Literally. ads. And.

48:07

I do remember Joan Crawford. When.

48:09

She walks into that boardroom has

48:12

the yep see company she goes

48:14

down but. Ah,

48:17

now Joan Crawford to do a shoulder

48:19

to said she gets the past. She's

48:21

the one. Guess. Ah, There.

48:24

It is there. it is. I hope you

48:26

liked it. I liked it. I have one

48:29

background catch here in the scene at eleven

48:31

minutes and sixteen seconds, Did. Anyone

48:33

else watching this wonder? What the heck? Pam.

48:36

And right are driving pass it looks

48:38

like a bunch of orange vehicles maybe

48:40

like road crew vehicles you know are

48:42

like some kind of transportation orange I

48:44

didn't know. Yells and then lots of

48:47

stuff that looks like baghdad trash. Anyone

48:49

else got eleven minutes, sixteen seconds and

48:51

be like what the heck, is that?

48:53

What was it? I don't know. Oh

48:55

I took a screen grab or a

48:57

questioning it. we're not answering it. Does

48:59

anyone else now please write me? Well

49:02

we got another fan question about this

49:04

scene from Gabriel and in Brazil. Who

49:06

said after four years, you guys might

49:08

be able to finally and my seven

49:11

year long quest. There is a deleted

49:13

scene where Pam and Way or in

49:15

the car and Dwight is shaping himself

49:17

up to some allowed metal. Yes, he's

49:20

hiding himself up to the when this

49:22

big sale? Yes sir. Actually in the

49:24

parking lot outside of the building where

49:26

they're gonna do the sale. He's.

49:29

Doing that thing that he does right?

49:31

So Gabriel goes on to say. That

49:34

after seeing Pam's discomfort to this

49:36

metal music, Dwight changes to a

49:38

softer song. Yeah, Gabriel says, do

49:40

you guys know either the song

49:42

or the singer of the softer

49:45

song I love that little snippet

49:47

of it, but I've never been

49:49

able to find it. Well.

49:52

I remember shooting this. But. I

49:54

can remember the songs and I didn't

49:56

recognize that when I really watched it.

49:58

That's because. Steeper, told

50:00

me that it was scripted to switch

50:03

from a Metallica track

50:06

to a carpenters track. Metallica

50:09

said yes, great, the carpenters

50:11

said no. So then what

50:13

did we switch to? We ended up recording

50:15

it with no music and

50:17

this is why I couldn't remember. We

50:20

added the music in post and

50:22

we just used what Steve called

50:24

library tracks. It's just

50:26

generic tracks of styles of

50:28

music. It's much less

50:30

expensive but Steve said unfortunately he didn't have

50:32

any information about it but it's kind of

50:35

like the stock photo of the music world.

50:37

So it was they were not like songs

50:39

that we could point to they were just

50:42

this stock music. That's why I couldn't

50:44

figure it out. Yes and also Gabrielle

50:46

why you couldn't figure it out. Right.

50:49

Well Angela and Oscar are now at the

50:51

yoga studio. They're actually in a

50:53

food court where they can look through like a

50:55

glass window into the yoga

50:58

studio. Yeah you guys are drinking

51:00

what are you drinking shakes? Are

51:02

you drinking smoothies? They were like

51:05

smoothies. Okay. The senator

51:07

walks in with a very petite

51:09

blonde. This really really sends Angela

51:11

off. Oh she's a double zero.

51:13

Oh sure. And then she starts

51:15

adjusting his hips for downward dog.

51:18

Angela's like I have heard of

51:20

this. Yeah. Dog style. But

51:22

then a guy walks up with a ponytail

51:25

and gives the yoga instructor a big hug

51:27

and Angela is so relieved. She's like oh

51:29

guy with a ponytail I'd like to see

51:31

that run for office. Yeah. But

51:34

then Oscar sees the senator

51:36

hugging a man. Mm-hmm. Who

51:39

then starts giving him some adjustments as

51:41

he's doing his yoga pose. Yeah. He

51:43

says Angela's ready to leave

51:46

but Oscar says no shut

51:48

up or staying. The plot

51:50

thickens. Mm-hmm. Jim

51:52

is still trying to take this phone call

51:54

and make this meeting happen. He now

51:56

goes outside but there's construction going on and

51:59

then he kind of leans on Meredith's van

52:01

and sets an alarm off. And

52:03

this is my favorite line of the whole

52:06

episode. Hank comes out and is like,

52:08

are those skateboarders back? And then

52:10

Meredith is like, who is messing with my van?

52:13

And then Hank yells, and this is my favorite

52:15

line, this ends now!

52:18

Like he is done. He is ready

52:20

to take on this whole pack of

52:22

skateboarders. And poor Jim is

52:25

like, where can I talk to these people?

52:28

Oh, where can you talk to these people

52:30

Jim? We've got a fan mail flurry to

52:32

answer that question. What is it? It really

52:34

teed some people off. Fan question

52:37

from Deanna H in Plant City, Florida,

52:39

who said, why wouldn't Jim

52:41

just go into Andy's office to make the

52:43

call? Andy isn't there. Sarah

52:46

C from New Jersey said, I have

52:48

been waiting so long to comment on

52:50

Jim's phone call. I was so frustrated

52:53

with Jim in this episode because there

52:55

was no need for this Jim. Here

52:57

is a list of 10 places where Jim

52:59

could have taken that call. I can't wait

53:02

to hear this because one place came to

53:04

mind immediately for me. I bet you can

53:06

guess it. I don't know. It's

53:08

where all the secret stuff happens. The

53:10

secret stairwell! The stairwell, why didn't he

53:12

go to the stairwell? Yes, that was

53:14

number four on her list. Let's hear

53:16

the rest. All right, number one, Andy's

53:19

office. Number two, Daryl's

53:21

office. Surely Daryl would have given

53:23

him his office for this, I mean, how long is

53:25

this phone call gonna be? Not long. Three,

53:28

inside Pam and Jim's car. Yeah,

53:31

I thought of that too. The stairwell.

53:34

Number five, close off the break room like

53:37

how Toby did when he was having a

53:39

counseling session with Michael. Six,

53:42

the former Michael Scott Paper Company

53:44

room. There it is. Seven,

53:46

the room that they used for spying

53:49

on Danny Cordray. Number

53:51

eight, the Dwight Schrute Jim for

53:53

muscles. Number

53:56

nine, Ryan's closet. Oh

53:58

yeah, number 10. Then the closet in

54:01

your accounting where Jim and Pam sneak off

54:03

in the episode PDA. This

54:06

is a really good list. Really

54:08

good list. I understand the whole list. The only

54:10

two that I think would be difficult are Andy's

54:13

office and Daryl's office. I'll tell you why. Why?

54:16

Because people can look in and be nosy and be like, hey, what

54:18

are you doing in here? Like Kevin would be like, what's up? What

54:20

are we doing in here? Are we hanging out? Yeah. All

54:23

the rest I think makes sense. I've got another one. Home.

54:26

Home. Go home. It's

54:28

the office that's going to give you grief about it. Dwight

54:31

has left and Andy's not there. Yeah.

54:33

Toby is completely distracted by his Movember gang. Just

54:35

sneak out and go home and take the call.

54:38

They don't live that far. No. Dwight

54:41

and Pam are now walking into the

54:43

office where they're going to meet this

54:45

new prospective client and

54:47

Pam asks the receptionist Molly for the

54:49

woman's name, but Molly won't tell

54:51

her the name. And

54:53

Pam starts to look around the room and

54:56

Jen, I thought your performance was so great

54:58

as you start to see multiple clues that

55:00

this is Dan. Yes.

55:03

You know, I asked Carrie about

55:05

her role as Molly because she's

55:07

so funny. I remember she

55:09

did it at the table read, which often

55:11

happened. Like writers would read some of the

55:13

smaller roles because sometimes those roles would get

55:15

cut after the table read. So they didn't

55:17

want to cast them until they were like

55:19

locked in. Yes. So she

55:21

said that after the table read, they

55:23

asked her to play the part. She

55:26

said she had used to act in musicals in

55:28

high schools and college, but had never done any

55:30

on-camera work before. And she said one

55:33

of the things that she remembered the most from

55:35

the shoot, it's a very funny story. She

55:37

said she remembered walking on set and that

55:39

I looked at her and I said, Oh

55:41

my gosh, I think you're wearing one of

55:43

your sister's outfit. One of

55:46

Aaron's outfit? Yes.

55:48

Because you know, that would happen sometimes. We

55:50

would have guest actors and I would look

55:52

over and they would be wearing some of

55:54

Pam's clothes. This happened. I'd be like,

55:56

I think that's my jacket. Yeah.

56:00

Oh yeah, It turns out if you look

56:02

at this outfit it is one of errands

56:04

out she was wearing an error. an outfit

56:06

which I actually think as a really sweet

56:09

nod to them being sisters. Yeah I do

56:11

too. Well. Jan is not happy

56:13

that it is Dwight and Pam.

56:15

She was really hoping for a

56:17

reunion, a revenge union with David

56:19

Wallace. Dwight. Is gonna try

56:22

to butter her up by complimenting

56:24

Astrid saying she could be a

56:26

bubble bath models So creepy Dwight

56:28

Miller does. Something. In the

56:30

seen that I had to go back.

56:32

I had a rewind because I thought

56:34

it was so great. It's not in

56:36

the script is just Muller A being

56:38

Jan and she's so brilliant was she's

56:40

frustrated and talking to them. Jan picks

56:42

up a frame and whites the dust

56:45

off with her boobs. I know they

56:47

are so so funny.is not in the

56:49

scripts. Miller is so good we got

56:51

a lot of fan mail. People wanted

56:53

to know who's idea was to bring

56:55

the lore back. Well, it

56:57

was gold. In this final

56:59

season he wanted us to touch base

57:02

with some of the author favorites remember

57:04

David Denman Chaos, Noise Weddings. So this

57:06

was the see an episode and I

57:08

traded text with Muller up because after

57:11

I watched this episode I was like

57:13

city So good is so good. She

57:15

said it was so great to get

57:17

the come back and see everybody. She

57:19

said she especially loved all of the

57:22

Pam and Jam awkward interactions. And

57:24

I had to ask her about that skydiving

57:26

soto t that was like tissue. What is

57:28

that like what? How did you do that

57:31

Because it was scripted that there was gonna

57:33

be the skydiving photo and it all fairly

57:35

big to take some the whole wall. She

57:37

said that she had to come in one

57:39

day and they put earnest sky diving suit

57:41

and they had a relay on a table

57:43

that was green movement and a set up.

57:46

a fan and may blue at your face.

57:48

And then in posts they removed the

57:50

table and they put in the sky

57:52

backgrounds and that's how the picture. By

57:55

the way, angela. I. Don't know

57:57

if you know this. There. Is a huge

57:59

month. Krauthammer with Muller. Ah. Yes,

58:03

I have been told this she plays

58:05

Trudy Monk. Yes, she is his ex

58:07

wife who was killed in a car

58:09

bomb. Any, she comes back like as

58:12

an apparition some time. Yes and her

58:14

murder is the only one that Adrian

58:16

Monk has not been able to solve.

58:18

Get was like this: Whole. Runner

58:21

of the series. I'll have

58:23

you know she is back for the

58:25

Monk movie monks. Last case of I

58:27

am not because my character went to

58:29

jail. Sorry for the spoiler. Yeah.

58:32

Well. I loved all the little accents

58:35

on Jan's desk. I'm sure a

58:37

lot of you notice these as

58:39

well. She has her Serenity candle.

58:41

She has a fancy Penn said

58:43

she has clunky both. Pledge.

58:45

Oh yes. Oh you know

58:48

why my clock he balls or tangled. Oh

58:50

you have to bring them. And for cast

58:52

we need Cassie to untangle mike lackey balls.

58:55

Jan not only of concubine but she has

58:57

basket of balls. And then she

58:59

has one of those little many then

59:01

like Sandler hundred and and I just

59:03

love the physical comedy. Call Back that

59:05

Wins and got stress. She lit one

59:07

of her own candles and says he

59:09

was certain. I love that too. Well.

59:11

Becomes very clear to Pam very

59:14

quickly that. Jan has no

59:16

intention of giving them her business the

59:18

he's like we need to go. But.

59:20

Dwight as like know stay here I have

59:22

an idea and he leaves. And.

59:24

Pans just the sort of just sell the

59:27

time until Dwight gets back to seen with

59:29

much longer of Pam trying to bond with

59:31

San. I really want you to hear

59:33

it isn't deleted scene. And

59:36

certainly sign. My sperm donor

59:38

was a Caltech physicists or sperm donor

59:40

says papers. I might

59:42

or might have the new of the

59:44

same years from was free. To.

59:47

Get would say. Well

59:49

to my love each other so that's

59:51

gonna be worth something. So now you're

59:53

saying that I'm on Lovable. That's a

59:55

huge that for years basically say i'm

59:57

very sorry I mean I can tell.

1:00:00

I'm I'm sorry. I.

1:00:02

Hear it. You have

1:00:04

another one of these. the slideshow.

1:00:07

Let's let's. See as my. My

1:00:11

goodness, Chan. Is so

1:00:13

unpredictable campuses trying to fix have

1:00:15

a conversation. Are you saying I'm

1:00:17

on lovable? Like wait how we

1:00:19

get there but like trying to

1:00:22

defend yourself because the to yeah

1:00:24

is insulting her. I know. Oh

1:00:26

my goodness. I. Also feel like

1:00:28

we have to talk about the slide. So

1:00:30

and the songs and this is the last

1:00:32

time we're going to hear Jan saying yeah

1:00:35

and we need to hit a T. Wow.

1:00:59

Is right now is the

1:01:01

only response to that. Wow

1:01:04

Wow Oh no! Laura Amazing!

1:01:06

Amazing job! Well, there's

1:01:08

a lot of flirty at reception

1:01:10

happening. There. Is trying to

1:01:12

talk to Iran, but she's very grossed

1:01:14

out by his moustache. Here's a list

1:01:16

of all the insults Errands has to

1:01:18

pee. And. Me: She says them

1:01:21

nicely. She says there's an eyebrow in the

1:01:23

middle of your face. She. Says

1:01:25

it's here. Handsome eyebrow makes it look

1:01:27

like your mouth is like an eye

1:01:30

sockets. She. Also says he looks like

1:01:32

a Cyclops but this is I sell out. And

1:01:35

p immediately goes a him she's

1:01:37

awesome as last. Exactly. Movember

1:01:40

is over now. Yeah, Back

1:01:42

as a yoga studio, Oscar and Angela

1:01:45

continue to spy on the Senator. And.

1:01:48

Oscar. Suggests.

1:01:51

that maybe the a fair that angeles

1:01:53

should be worried about his with this

1:01:55

man yeah it was like us to

1:01:57

what is happening here why would you

1:02:00

you think the senator might be gay." And I

1:02:02

loved Oscar's performance here when he says, I

1:02:05

don't know, Angela, I'm dehydrated. Maybe you heard

1:02:07

me wrong. We should just go. And

1:02:09

then Angela's like, oh, here he comes. What's he doing? And

1:02:11

Oscar says he's making a phone call. And

1:02:14

then Oscar's phone rings. This

1:02:17

is how the stage direction was written for this

1:02:19

moment in the shooting draft. Okay. Suddenly,

1:02:21

Oscar's phone rings. Angela looks at the

1:02:23

phone. Oscar fumbles with it, trying

1:02:26

to turn it off. Angela looks

1:02:28

from Oscar to the senator and

1:02:30

back. Oscar looks at

1:02:32

her guiltily. She reads it in

1:02:34

his face and knows. Very

1:02:37

interesting. That all played out. I

1:02:39

mean, I saw all of that play out in your

1:02:41

scene. Well, you know, we

1:02:43

filmed the scene multiple times. They kept moving the

1:02:45

camera around because they really wanted to make sure

1:02:48

that they could capture Oscar and I

1:02:50

looking at each other, but that we were also

1:02:52

hidden from the senator, but that the camera could

1:02:54

see the senator. So they kept

1:02:56

moving the camera around and I

1:02:59

actually have all of the unedited takes from

1:03:01

this moment. Really? Yeah. They were given to

1:03:03

me way back when I found him in

1:03:05

my digital clutter and I have all of

1:03:07

them. The moment the phone rings and I

1:03:09

look at him in some takes,

1:03:12

they had me grab my coat and walk off

1:03:14

in a huff. And then other takes, they just

1:03:16

had me hold the stare at him. And

1:03:18

that's what they used. Wow.

1:03:20

Well, it's really funny when I was watching

1:03:22

this episode and I saw these scenes, I

1:03:25

was like, why do I feel like I

1:03:27

was there? This was a location. I wouldn't

1:03:29

have been there, but Angela, I was, I

1:03:31

was. Steve

1:03:33

Burgess reminded me that we shot

1:03:35

this yoga studio at the 360

1:03:37

health club in Reseda, California.

1:03:40

In the morning we shot in the

1:03:42

parking lot. We shot that scene of

1:03:44

me and Dwight and

1:03:46

we did all of our driving

1:03:48

scenes around this area and I

1:03:50

came in and I said hi

1:03:52

to you guys because they were

1:03:54

setting up your interior work. So

1:03:56

I was there. Oh my

1:03:59

gosh. I know. I totally remember it. Our base

1:04:01

camp was in the parking lot. And so I was

1:04:04

there that day. I remember. And I

1:04:06

love those scenes. Thank you. I absolutely love them.

1:04:08

And I loved rewatching them. And I want to

1:04:10

call Oscar and be like, Oscar, let's do a

1:04:12

show. You should. Well,

1:04:15

Dwight is now going to come back to Jan's office

1:04:17

and guess who he has in tow? Clark.

1:04:20

Clark. Clark? Like as a token?

1:04:22

Like Dwight is offering up Clark

1:04:25

to Jan? What the heck? Well,

1:04:27

he says Molly is a crap

1:04:29

assistant. You can have Clark. Yeah.

1:04:31

How about that? Pam's like, Clark, you don't have to

1:04:33

do this. And he goes, No, I want to get

1:04:36

ahead. I want to get ahead in the paper sale

1:04:38

industry. Do you know why the storyline

1:04:40

was in place? Where was Clark

1:04:42

in real life going? Yes,

1:04:45

he had Clark needed time off to

1:04:47

go film kick ass to. So

1:04:49

we put Ed on a boat, because

1:04:51

he was off filming Hangover three, we gave

1:04:54

Clark to Jan because he had to

1:04:57

film kick ass to also after we

1:04:59

shot this episode, we took a three

1:05:01

week hiatus to give these gentlemen

1:05:03

a little bit more time to do their movies.

1:05:06

Oh, well, did

1:05:09

you hear that? It's exactly one year ago

1:05:11

at the same time

1:05:14

that I was asking

1:05:16

for maternity leave. Correct. And I was

1:05:19

told we can't do that. No, we

1:05:21

can't take, you know, three week break

1:05:23

so that you can heal from birthing

1:05:26

a human. Yeah, we

1:05:28

couldn't do that. We've done it all

1:05:31

the other years. Yeah. For

1:05:33

movie projects seasons one, two, seven,

1:05:35

and then again here in season nine. But

1:05:38

apparently in season eight, we

1:05:41

just couldn't. You know

1:05:43

what, you should have been in kick ass three. Maybe

1:05:46

if I'd done blades of glory to I could

1:05:48

have had three weeks off. I don't know

1:05:51

what kick ass is. I don't know

1:05:53

kick ass one. Oh, it's a

1:05:55

really funny movie. I need to see it. Yeah.

1:05:58

I mean, I love Clark. But

1:06:00

yeah, I hear you on all of that. Yeah,

1:06:02

I hear you. Anywho,

1:06:06

I'll leave it there. We'll leave it there

1:06:08

and we're gonna save it for our spin-off

1:06:10

podcast, Office Ladies Burn It to the Ground.

1:06:16

This episode ends with Pam and Dwight.

1:06:19

They are leaving and they run into

1:06:21

Molly. And Pam says, I

1:06:23

think you should quit. And Dwight wishes

1:06:25

her luck with her feelings. Pam

1:06:27

is like, wow, Dwight, you should ask her for

1:06:29

her number. And then

1:06:32

he says, I already did. He

1:06:35

reads off what's clearly a license plate.

1:06:38

And Pam says, oh,

1:06:40

is that her license number, lady?

1:06:42

I was very confused why you would call it

1:06:44

a license number. Oh. So

1:06:46

I went to the shooting draft and

1:06:49

your actual line is, Dwight, that's a

1:06:51

license plate. But I

1:06:53

said license number. It's dated, I've fumbled

1:06:55

it and it stayed in. But

1:06:58

it cracked me up. And

1:07:00

it's a very sweet moment though between Dwight

1:07:02

and Pam because Dwight says you

1:07:05

are my hand. Yeah,

1:07:07

yeah. I always love those

1:07:09

moments. There's a really great episode coming

1:07:11

up that actually Lee, my husband Lee

1:07:13

directed, it's vandalism and

1:07:16

Pam and Dwight are gonna team up to

1:07:18

figure out who vandalized something. I won't, I

1:07:21

guess, spoil it, but this is a duo

1:07:23

I love. I love Pam and Dwight and

1:07:25

I love Angela and Oscar. Me too. All

1:07:28

right, you guys, that was the whale. We

1:07:30

wanna thank you all for writing in and

1:07:32

sending your questions and your comments. We love

1:07:34

them so much. A big thank you to

1:07:36

Steve Burgess, Kerri Kemper and to Melora Hardin,

1:07:39

who by the way, I don't know if

1:07:41

you know this, but she started a line

1:07:43

of wallpaper. Yes, it's

1:07:45

beautiful. Beautiful. And she

1:07:47

also stars in a one-woman film

1:07:49

called Golden Vanity. The film has

1:07:51

won several awards at various film

1:07:53

festivals, including three best actress

1:07:56

awards for Melora. You can learn more

1:07:58

about the movie and more about her wallpaper. at

1:08:00

melora.com. But don't you worry, because I'll

1:08:02

put it in stories, y'all, with a

1:08:04

swipey. Yes, you will. Alright, bye you

1:08:06

guys. See you next week! Thank

1:08:14

you for listening to August Ladies. August

1:08:16

Ladies is produced by Erewolf, Janet Fisher,

1:08:18

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1:08:20

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1:08:22

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1:08:25

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1:08:27

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1:08:29

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