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Jenna Fisher, and I'm youtil again, baby. We
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We're The Office, ladies. Hello!
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Hi there! I
2:28
hear our little opening intro, and I
2:30
hear Creed playing. It makes me
2:32
happy. Me too! So,
2:34
just starting with that. It's
2:37
a nice way to start a moment. A
2:39
day? A podcast, for sure. For sure. Our
2:42
podcast, for sure. Well, yes,
2:44
that for sure. You want to
2:46
hear what we're talking about today? Oh, I do. I
2:49
hope it's not a surprise to you. I hope not. It
2:51
is The Whale. It is season
2:54
9, episode 7, written by
2:56
Carrie Kemper and directed by Rodman Flender.
2:58
Do you remember Rodman? I do. He
3:01
was so fun. So fun. And
3:03
I remember being like, Rodman, come back.
3:05
I know. He's directed a
3:07
ton of television, and he has
3:09
a very famous nephew, Timothy Chalamet.
3:11
Can you believe it? Yeah.
3:15
We didn't realize that back then. No. But...
3:17
Well, Timothy Chalamet wasn't Timothy Chalamet back
3:19
then. No. Rodman, we would be asking
3:21
for all the deets on your nephew.
3:23
Yeah. What a talent.
3:25
Like the annoying ants. We would. Yes.
3:29
We would be like, what project is he in now? Yes.
3:32
What's he up to? I noticed he changed his hair,
3:34
and I like it. I think it's his face. Well,
3:36
I love his fashion on the red carpet. Yes. He
3:38
takes rants. He takes rants. And he
3:40
sticks with it. We love him, Rodman. We love him.
3:44
Rodman's listening to this right now, and he's like,
3:46
thank God. Oh, my gosh. All
3:49
right. Here is your summary. Dwight
3:51
is tasked with securing a new client, so
3:53
the ladies in the office attempt to teach
3:55
him how to sell the women. Yeah. Because
3:57
this new client is a woman. That's all
4:00
we know about her at first. Yeah.
4:03
A woman. Oscar is going
4:05
to help Angela investigate her hunch that the
4:07
senator might be having an affair. And
4:10
finally, Jim's telecommuting is not
4:13
quite working out. No.
4:15
He's trying to take a phone call. This
4:17
reminds me of trying to have a private conversation
4:20
when you have a house full of kids.
4:22
You like deck into nooks and crannies, but
4:25
everyone still finds you. Yeah. Yeah.
4:28
I don't know about that particular storyline. I can't
4:30
wait for us to discuss. Ooh,
4:32
good. All right. Fastback number one. This
4:35
episode was written by Carrie Kemper,
4:37
who is the sister of Ellie
4:39
Kemper. And Carrie also
4:41
plays Jan's assistant, Molly. I thought she
4:44
did so great as Molly. Oh, good.
4:46
I want to know more about Molly.
4:49
Well, I reached out to Carrie to ask her
4:51
some questions about this episode. And
4:53
I just love her. I mean, I love these Kemper gals.
4:55
I know. They're such good gals.
4:57
Carrie told me that the original pitch for
5:00
this episode was very different from
5:02
the final script. It
5:04
was originally called Land Jan. They
5:07
knew that they were going to have Jan come back and
5:09
that she was going to be someone we were pitching to.
5:12
And in the original pitch, Pam comes
5:14
into work at the beginning of the day, and she
5:17
is so bummed because she ran into Jan at the
5:19
grocery store and promised to go to lunch with her.
5:22
But then Pam realizes that if she makes
5:24
Dwight go with her, that Jan will probably
5:26
end the lunch early because Jan hates Dwight.
5:29
So Dwight and Pam go to lunch with Jan.
5:31
And while they're there, they realize that she wants
5:33
to give them her business.
5:37
And they start competing for who can
5:39
sell Jan more paper. And it becomes
5:41
very clear that Dwight is horrible at
5:43
selling to women. Okay. So
5:46
Carrie said that Greg read the pitch and
5:49
he zeroed in on one detail, which was
5:51
that Dwight is terrible at
5:53
selling to women. And Greg said,
5:55
that's your story. That's
5:57
what it should be. And also, Jan, I'm going to start with you. Jan
6:00
should be a surprise. It should be a
6:02
reveal. I 100% agree. This
6:05
is the genius of Greg, right? I know that he could
6:07
look at that pitch and then find the two things that
6:09
were going to make it zing. Yes. Yeah.
6:13
So they changed the title to The Whale, and here we are. Carrie
6:16
also said that the Oscar
6:18
Angela Senator storyline was an
6:20
absolute dream. She said the minute
6:23
the writers pitched that and decided
6:25
that that was going to be the storyline
6:27
for this season, the whole story
6:29
just kind of wrote itself. I
6:31
have been so excited to get to these
6:34
episodes because of my whole entire time on
6:36
The Office. I know I had
6:38
amazing scenes with Rain and we got to play
6:40
out the Dwight Angela romance, but
6:42
these scenes with Oscar are some of my
6:44
absolute favorites. And you know,
6:47
you guys remember Oscar and I met doing
6:49
sketch comedy like, my
6:51
gosh, 20 years ago. And
6:53
to be able to do these scenes with him
6:55
was just pure joy. We were giddy. It was
6:58
so fun. Carrie said that the
7:00
two of you together is absolute magic. And
7:03
she said that she felt like this
7:05
particular beat of the story of
7:07
you guys watching this yoga class,
7:09
she said she felt like she
7:12
like won the lottery because this was
7:15
her particular favorite beat of the storyline
7:17
and she got it. Thanks Carrie. I
7:20
know. You know, I also asked Carrie how
7:22
she got her job on The Office because we got a
7:24
lot of mail. People were curious if
7:26
Ellie had anything to do with it. And
7:29
Carrie said that Ellie kind of did, that
7:31
Ellie had been on the show for about a year. And
7:34
she was sitting with Claire Scanlon
7:36
one day and Claire told her
7:39
that Greg and Paul were setting
7:41
some meetings for new potential female
7:43
writers for season seven. And
7:45
Ellie said, my sister is a TV
7:48
writer. But the thing was,
7:50
was that Carrie was an aspiring TV
7:52
writer. She'd never actually had a job
7:54
writing for television. She had
7:56
been the editor of her College Humor magazine, but she
7:58
was at the very beginning. There, but
8:00
he had three spec scripts.
8:03
Do. People know what spec scripts are. I.
8:05
Think we shared about it. They're like
8:07
a script the to write as a
8:09
sample of your work of what you
8:11
can do. Yeah, so you'll pick a
8:13
show that's already on television and then
8:15
you'll write an episode of it. So
8:17
she had written spec scripts of the
8:19
Sarah Silverman program. She did one for
8:21
Thirty Rock and she did one for
8:23
Modern Family. And so
8:26
Claire agreed to pass on her
8:28
Modern Family spec script to Paul.
8:31
And Paul read it and he calls her
8:33
in. He loved it. He
8:35
called are in for a meeting and
8:37
carry was like oh he's just being
8:39
nice cause my sister's on the show
8:42
and listen to what her mom said
8:44
I love their mom Her mom said
8:46
do you think he has time to
8:48
be nice. Oh yeah, that's a
8:50
real meeting. You own it. You got
8:52
yourself in the door without good script.
8:55
Good morning I lay on that So
8:57
carry went to the meeting and she
9:00
said after the meeting he asked for
9:02
another writing sample says she sent him
9:04
a one act play that she had
9:06
written and she got hundred a week
9:09
later. So it's a great story see
9:11
So The Office was your favorite Tv
9:13
so it was or first operating on
9:15
television but you know she has gone
9:18
on to write on some of seriously
9:20
the best stuff on Tv Silicon Valley
9:22
Oh man piece oh the rehearsal. And.
9:25
She's currently co executive producer of The
9:27
Curse, which is now streaming on Paramount
9:29
Plus. Their. Ego. I love that
9:31
story. I also just love the bond
9:33
of sisterhood that only without any hesitation,
9:35
was like my sister's a writer. Yeah,
9:38
So. Great! I know all the
9:40
women in that family helped carry.
9:43
Way like have the courage, the
9:45
confidence and saw blue that he
9:47
I love it! Or
9:49
I suspect number to. another
9:51
big story line in this episode which
9:53
i failed to mention and my summary
9:55
is that all the men in the
9:57
office are growing mustaches vs say are
10:00
Do you say mustache or moose dash? Who
10:03
says moose dash? I realize.
10:05
That's like a muppet. A muppet says moose dash.
10:07
You know what I realize? Is that from Sesame
10:09
Street? No. That's how I... Is
10:12
that how you say mustache is one of your animals?
10:14
Yes. That's how Sunny says moose dash.
10:16
Okay, you guys know. Because they have a little white
10:18
moose dash. Jenna does the voices of her pets. We
10:20
all do. That's why I was
10:23
like, I almost said moose dash. And
10:25
then as I said it out loud, I realized no one says
10:27
that. Just Sunny. Just Sunny. I
10:30
would say oh my god, you have a real enough
10:32
moose dash. And your
10:34
made up voice for him. Yeah.
10:36
Anyway. Alright. So all
10:39
the men in the
10:41
office are growing mustaches
10:43
for Movember. Movember
10:45
is an annual event every
10:47
November. Men grow a
10:50
mustache to help raise awareness for
10:52
men's health issues like prostate cancer.
10:55
And a lot of people do fundraisers in
10:57
conjunction with growing their mustache. We got a
10:59
fan letter from Keith S. in Los Angeles
11:02
who said, I worked for Movember. And
11:04
I worked there in 2012 when this episode
11:06
was written. And I would
11:08
love to answer any questions anyone may have
11:11
about Movember or how we worked with the
11:13
writers to make sure there was an accurate
11:15
representation of our organization. Way to go Keith.
11:17
I love that you wrote in. He said
11:19
he loves the podcast and he's been waiting
11:21
for this episode. So we did
11:23
reach out to Keith. And
11:25
here's what he said. He said the writing staff reached out
11:28
and let them know that they were going to use
11:31
Movember in a storyline but they didn't share the script.
11:34
But they checked to make sure that they were allowed
11:36
to use it in the way they were using it
11:38
and wanted to make sure that they got it accurate.
11:42
He also heard that some of the writers
11:44
had participated in Movember. And I remember that
11:46
Ann. I do too. So
11:48
he said they were just thrilled that
11:50
the office talked about Movember correctly
11:52
and it was such a great public
11:55
platform. He said the whole team had
11:57
a watch party to watch the episode and
11:59
he said they... still share a gif of
12:01
Toby saying, smile if you love
12:03
men's prostates on Slack. Keith said
12:05
the writers also sent over a
12:07
cookie bouquet of mustache
12:09
and office themed cookies when the
12:12
episode aired. I love that.
12:14
Isn't that so sweet? Keith did
12:16
want to say that Movember has come a long way since
12:18
the whale. He said they always
12:20
focused on prostate and testicular cancer but
12:22
they now also raise awareness and funds
12:25
for men's mental health and suicide prevention.
12:28
He said that since 2003 they
12:30
have built a global men's health
12:32
movement funding more than 1300 projects
12:36
and he said our listeners can learn
12:38
more or donate at movember.com. Keith, I
12:40
will put that in our stories with
12:42
a swipe up and thanks so
12:45
much for writing in. Yeah, thank you Keith. Oh,
12:47
one more thing. He did want to give a
12:49
shout out to Lisa, Abby and Caitlin for helping
12:51
him with all these details. Awesome.
12:54
All right, fast fact number three. I'm
12:57
very excited everyone because Angela has
12:59
asked for fast fact number three
13:01
and we are now going to
13:03
have a mailbag moment
13:06
with Angela Kinsey. A
13:09
mailbag moment. By the way,
13:11
Cody who works on Office Ladies told us there's
13:13
even more mail that we
13:16
need to go through. There's been even more.
13:18
A new pile. A new stack of mail.
13:20
Or as Sunny would say, a poll. A poll of
13:22
them all. Well, this
13:24
letter is from Jacqueline and Jacqueline,
13:26
the envelope was a little bent
13:28
in the corner but I think
13:31
you're from Canada. Jacqueline S. from
13:33
Canada. I was trying to
13:35
see the postage stamp. And
13:37
I just loved this letter Jenna and I wanted to
13:39
share it. Jacqueline wrote in and
13:41
said, Dear Jenna and Angela, my husband introduced
13:44
me to the office during the pandemic and
13:46
it took about five minutes before I was
13:48
hooked. While COVID was raging on
13:50
and everything seemed to be in a constant
13:52
state of flux and the unknown, the office
13:55
became my safe place and I quickly benched
13:57
the entire series before going back and watching
13:59
favorite episodes again and again. Just
14:01
when I thought I couldn't love anything
14:03
more, I found the Office Ladies Podcast.
14:06
While it feels odd to thank you
14:08
when we have never properly met,
14:10
having listened to the entire podcast
14:12
twice already, I feel like
14:15
we are friends. I have spent
14:17
countless hours listening to the two of you
14:19
banter back and forth, and because you share
14:21
so much of yourselves each week, it's easy
14:23
to forget you are not my real life
14:25
friends, just having a girl chat, sharing updates
14:27
about your week. I wanted to
14:30
share how much your podcast means to me.
14:32
You've made me laugh, cry, think, and have
14:34
spurred many a deep dive. All
14:36
right. No, I love that. She goes
14:38
on to say that she had a few years of
14:40
real big life transitions. She had her first baby. She
14:43
went on maternity leave, went back to
14:45
work. They renovated their house. Her father
14:48
was diagnosed with cancer, and then she
14:50
became pregnant with their second baby. And
14:52
she writes this, while most of the time
14:54
life can feel a little crazy, your podcast
14:57
is a constant. I listened to it
14:59
while I breastfed, when I couldn't sleep,
15:01
while I cooked and cleaned, when I was in
15:03
the car, when I was crying and needed a
15:05
distraction, and when I wanted to laugh. My
15:08
female friendships are so important to me. And
15:10
while I really do love the Office, it
15:12
is now your podcast that I keep coming
15:14
back to. To me, it
15:16
is a celebration of female friendships
15:19
and relationships, something that the world
15:21
needs more of. Thank you for the
15:23
love and energy and care you put into it
15:25
each and every week. Jaclyn,
15:27
your letter, thank you
15:30
so much for taking the time to write
15:32
that letter. It was
15:35
very touching to me. And wow, you
15:37
have been through a lot in the
15:39
last couple of years. And
15:41
we're happy to be there with you through
15:43
all of it in your ear, keeping you
15:46
company, keeping you distracted. Furring on a deep
15:48
dive? Fearing on a deep dive? Yes.
15:50
And you know, the thing is, is
15:52
that making the
15:54
podcast is that same touchstone
15:56
for me. Coming
15:59
in here each week. Then making this podcast.
16:01
Whatever else is going on in
16:03
my life? All. Of the
16:05
things because we all always have all
16:07
of the thing. Yeah, you know everybody
16:09
is carrying so much. Yeah, and we
16:12
don't know what everybody is carrying that
16:14
everyone that some may. Yeah, and. This
16:16
is that same escape and release
16:19
and laughter and fun for me
16:21
making it. Set. It. Sounds
16:23
like it is for Jacqueline when she listens
16:25
and it makes me so happy. Me to
16:28
a me So happy to read that letter
16:30
Jacqueline thank you for taking the time to
16:32
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16:36
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20:09
We are back on Andy's boat and
20:11
he's, I guess, doing some
20:13
form of FaceTime. Wait, I think he's Skyping?
20:16
Skype, yes, Skype. They said Skype? Of course
20:18
I would get that wrong. I'm gonna get
20:20
all of that wrong. Do people still Skype?
20:23
I don't know. I think now we Zoom, right?
20:25
Now we Zoom. We Skyped, then we FaceTimed, now
20:27
we Zoom. I still FaceTime with
20:29
my mom, but she calls it Facebook.
20:31
So she'll say, do you want to Facebook? And
20:34
I'm like, I'm FaceTime. Yeah. But
20:36
I'm becoming my mom. You are,
20:38
slowly. Slowly. He shares
20:40
with everyone that he's been watching Dirty
20:42
Dancing on repeat and he's
20:45
super sunburned because Walter Jr. has
20:47
been hoarding all the sunscreen. Yeah,
20:50
while he's talking with everyone, he
20:53
manages to drop his drinking water
20:55
overboard. Then he drops his
20:57
desalinator overboard. And you know what? He
20:59
looks awful. He looks like he's going
21:01
crazy. I know, he does. Daryl
21:04
says, you know what? He's only been sailing
21:06
for two days. Yeah, I mean, he looks
21:08
like he's been out to sea for months.
21:11
There were some alts within this scene.
21:13
You know when Andy says, be more
21:15
worried about my eyes because they've become
21:17
flaming meatballs in my skull? Yes, yes.
21:19
Here was his alt. If
21:21
you want to worry about some part of my body, worry
21:23
about my eyes. Brush my teeth with
21:25
a sea urchin this AM. Boy.
21:29
I know. I think the writers had a
21:31
lot of fun pitching this Andy boat stuff.
21:33
One of the other lines was he said,
21:35
my skin's too sensitive now. The shirt part
21:37
of my life is over, dudes. He's
21:39
not gonna wear shirts anymore. No. That's it. He's
21:41
done with shirts. He has no sunscreen, but he's
21:44
gonna take off his shirt. That's a great idea.
21:46
Yeah, I know. We had a fan question from
21:48
Olivia B. in Las Vegas who really loved the
21:50
line, keeps my hair out of my stare. I
21:52
love it. Ask me combat the glare bear. I
21:55
loved that line too, Olivia. Olivia
21:57
Wanted to know who wrote that line. Why
22:00
have a guess? Did you find out
22:02
I did? Kerry told me was that
22:04
Brent? It was not but that is
22:06
such a good gas.he loves upon I
22:08
know who. Well that's not upon. It's
22:10
more of a rhyme Rhino but still
22:12
very Brent. Very slant. Okay Kerry said.
22:15
Olivia I am so happy you ask
22:17
this question. It was written by
22:19
a writer Graham Wagner. She said graham
22:22
as a good friend. They went on
22:24
to write on Silicon Valley together and
22:26
she said she completely remembers. Cracking.
22:28
Up and Paulie proceeds office when
22:31
glam pitched. Outline: oh. She's
22:33
so glad you appreciate it as well. Graham
22:36
way to go. As and he's
22:38
dropping everything that's important over the side
22:40
of the boat, including his. Laptop.
22:44
I wrote two words. What? Sambal
22:46
fingers. Because.
22:49
He is a real fumble. things are to social
22:51
thing my dad used to say when we were
22:53
like teenagers clump and through the house and we
22:55
would drop things my down to be like someone's
22:57
got a case of the fumble fingers. Will.
23:00
All have you know we really sought
23:02
that on a boat. We sought Andy
23:04
side of the conversation the week prior
23:07
when we were shooting the boat and
23:09
getting that shot as a laptop.
23:11
Going into the water was a really
23:13
time consuming shot I bet. So what
23:16
they did was are cinematographer put a
23:18
waterproof Go Pro camera. And
23:20
he attached it to a stick because
23:23
they had to make sure that the
23:25
camera didn't really think right, but they
23:27
also had to make sure it looks
23:29
realistic. So. It was like
23:31
many times have someone like. Using
23:34
this go pro on a stick to
23:36
look like fall and then Ma and
23:38
all that sort of stuff. Also during
23:40
the scene we had a real boat
23:42
captain. his name was Chris Roberson and
23:44
he was laying on the bottom of
23:46
the cockpit driving the boat. Oh my
23:49
cause the whole time we did the
23:51
shots seems like hidden. But. yeah
23:53
you know the very last moment where
23:55
andy says he strikes suppose and as
23:57
like lead to speed the lasting memory
23:59
of on a boat, you know? I
24:01
have a background catch at one minute 27
24:03
seconds. What's that? Pam, Daryl,
24:05
Angela, Phyllis, Oscar, and Aaron are
24:08
all watching Andy as he drops
24:10
his computer into the water. You
24:12
even hear us react like, oh,
24:15
and then at one minute 36 seconds we're all
24:17
gone. Only Aaron and Daryl
24:19
remain. We left immediately. Immediately. I
24:23
remember shooting that that morning, Angela. You know,
24:25
we were not really live with him. No.
24:28
But they did bring it up
24:30
on the computer and I remember
24:32
being like legitimately shocked when I
24:34
saw the makeup job of his
24:37
like, his face, his lips were
24:39
so disturbing. I think they used
24:41
our real reaction. I remember
24:44
it. I remember being completely horrified. Oh my
24:46
gosh. Oh my god, Ed, what happened to
24:48
you? Well, let's get
24:50
into the meat of this episode or
24:52
should I say the blubber of this
24:54
episode. David Wallace is going to call
24:57
Dwight and tell him some news. Yeah.
24:59
He's very excited, puts him on speakerphone
25:01
only to want to take him off
25:04
speakerphone because he doesn't want Jim to
25:06
hear. Well, I mean, Jim
25:08
rips the handheld part off the main
25:10
phone and now he's got to be
25:12
on speaker. Yes. And what we learn
25:14
is that the Scranton white pages have
25:17
dropped their paper supplier of 10
25:19
years and they are up for grabs and
25:22
he wants Dwight and Jim to go
25:24
and get this business. He
25:27
says he wants the top salesman, which
25:29
is Dwight. Yeah. Dwight is over the
25:31
moon. So excited. So excited. He has
25:33
a talking head where he says the
25:36
white pages aren't something that you want or need,
25:38
but it shows up on your doorstep anyway and
25:41
there's a reason why it's called the
25:43
white whale and then he flips through
25:45
all the pages and he says, look
25:47
at all that sweet blubber. Mm-hmm. Need
25:50
a lot of paper to make the white pages. This is a big
25:52
score. I think it might be time
25:54
for a little mini, a mini dive on
25:57
the white pages on the first ever phone
25:59
book. Oh, the first ever. I
26:01
was so curious. I was like, you know,
26:03
I love an origin story. So
26:06
here's a little bit about the first phone book ever.
26:08
It all went down in
26:10
Connecticut. Connecticut. And he would be so
26:12
proud. Yeah. Here's what the UConn library
26:15
website had to share. George
26:17
Coy was the manager of a telegraph
26:19
office in New Haven, Connecticut, and
26:21
he attended a demonstration of the
26:24
telephone by inventor Alexander Graham Bell
26:26
in April 1877. This
26:30
led to Coy establishing the world's
26:32
first public telephone exchange in
26:34
January of 1878. Lady,
26:38
it says he used carriage bolts, teapot
26:40
lids, and wire to make
26:42
a switchboard of eight lines. I
26:45
mean, this feels like a little MacGyver
26:47
action. Yeah. Right. It feels like something
26:49
your kid does in science class. I
26:52
know, but it works. And the New
26:54
Haven District Telephone Company was established and
26:57
it was the first public telephone company
26:59
in the world. Wow. The
27:02
company established another first. It
27:05
produced the first ever telephone directory. The
27:07
directory listed 50 customers with
27:10
no phone numbers. Oh
27:12
yeah. How do I call them? Well,
27:14
to us now, this might seem odd,
27:16
but back then, how many pages was
27:18
this? It was, I
27:20
mean, just three pages. It's like a
27:22
little pamphlet. I saw a picture of
27:24
it. Okay. Here's how it worked. Since
27:26
every call was connected manually, you know,
27:28
you didn't dial a number. No, you
27:30
were connected by a central switchboard operator
27:32
and the subscriber list
27:35
was so small, no numbers were necessary.
27:37
Sure. You would just dial up the
27:39
person, the switchboard, and you'd be like,
27:41
connect me to whoever.
27:43
Right. Yeah. Angela Kinsey, if you were
27:45
in the pamphlet, I'd know you have
27:47
a phone. That's right. Huh. What's
27:50
amazing is this company grew and went
27:52
through many different configurations, but
27:54
it provided independent telecommunication service to
27:56
the state of Connecticut until 1998.
28:00
Wow, I know I love reading about
28:03
the origin of things but also reminded me of
28:05
a simpler time and When
28:08
I moved to Archer City, Texas Mm-hmm,
28:10
I would ask for people's phone numbers
28:12
and they would just give you four
28:14
digits because the first ones were
28:16
all the same Yes, and the town was
28:18
so small So I
28:20
moved from Indonesia, you know, and
28:22
then I moved to this small town and I thought everyone just
28:24
had four numbers That's so funny.
28:27
And when I went to college, I would be like,
28:29
what are your four numbers? Yeah,
28:31
I know it's just crazy to think about people were
28:34
like don't you need all of them Ang? I'm like,
28:36
no, I just need four and they're like, nope the
28:38
last four. Nope. Do you remember? 411.
28:40
Yes. Is that still a thing? like
28:44
you used to call up 411 and be
28:46
like I'm looking for the phone number of
28:50
Something like Lewis's tires. I don't
28:52
know. Should we call it? Sure.
28:54
I mean I'm scared What happens when
28:56
you dial 411 now not be scared? Well, what
28:58
are we gonna ask for? As
29:01
for a Pizza Hut, okay The
29:06
service you are calling is not available from
29:08
this location. Oh, if this is an emergency
29:10
Oh Well, we'll
29:12
never get Pizza Hut now. Nope. I'm
29:15
just gonna go without pizza today. I guess now
29:17
you have me hungry for pizza. Sorry Well,
29:20
there you go. A little bit of the origin of
29:22
the first phone book The first phone book would not
29:24
have been a whale. It would have been
29:26
like a little like a minnow Yes
29:29
Also during this phone call with David Wallace
29:32
Dwight asks if Tom Peterman is
29:34
still in charge of the white pages account We
29:37
find out no, it is now run
29:39
by a woman, but David doesn't know her name
29:42
Phyllis immediately perks up. She's like
29:44
no, no, no Dwight cannot handle
29:46
this sale. He is horrible with
29:48
women Yes, he kept calling Gina
29:50
Rogers Jina. Yes She
29:53
said she had to correct him five
29:55
times. Dwight says Jina said that This
29:58
scene was actually longer and. The shooting
30:00
draft Dwight then turns to Angeles and
30:02
ass or did I ever make you
30:05
feel uncomfortable. This. Is how it read.
30:08
Dwight. False. Angela Did
30:10
I make you uncomfortable when I'd have sex with
30:12
you in the warehouse? Angela quickly for
30:14
camera. I was a virgin before marriage and
30:16
I have never set foot in a warehouse.
30:20
Hopes They let us do a bunch of takes
30:22
and in one we improvised and it made it
30:24
into deleted scenes. I want you to hear it.
30:27
Dwight. You make women feel uncomfortable.
30:29
That oh, come on that issue
30:31
or true Angela when we would
30:33
have meetings in the warehouse. Did.
30:36
I make you feel uncomfortable. Of
30:38
those meetings were very brief. Boring.
30:42
Even. Remember them
30:44
being. Well, they weren't. Oh
30:47
and or that is so funny I
30:49
know as such a good improv, it
30:52
was so fine when I was. I
30:54
was very brief doesn't rain safe and
30:56
Dwight was like okay. Oh
31:01
so this is not gonna let this go
31:03
you guys. She's like listen and account the
31:05
size could double. Their. Gross. You
31:07
know their salaries are bonuses. Pizza
31:10
Friday to come back. There.
31:12
I can be able to call Pizza Hut though. Not.
31:14
With for one while they're not
31:17
Pm says jim can you go
31:19
instead but he can't He has
31:21
his first board meeting conference call
31:24
for his new business. Yeah, yeah,
31:26
so. He's. Busy. Dwight.
31:29
Gonna run point on this. Oh now
31:31
like a lan. Meanwhile we have this
31:33
whole other story line that really cracked
31:35
me up. We talked about it, Movember.
31:39
Pete. Of going to enter the break room.
31:41
I don't even know what you would title this.
31:43
Dashi and the break room I guess. so. Moose,
31:45
the Us is a perfect ruthless in the break
31:48
ways. He's got a little mustache and so do
31:50
Daryl, clerk and cousin. They're all very unsafe and.
31:52
Patent. Clerk have a joint talking head where
31:54
they say Toby got them to participate in
31:56
Movember. And are going to have mustaches
31:59
the whole month. So. You know, hope
32:01
you like been turned on all the time. Toby.
32:03
Enters and he has a. And
32:06
only very low at it's a
32:08
it's a squirrel, it's they were
32:10
all tail keys. Very proud. He
32:12
can clearly grow a mustache. a
32:15
very hardy mustache when she. When
32:18
Paul was on set with that I
32:20
remember losing it because it was so
32:22
wispy and secured in that doesn't down
32:25
on his chin. I want you to
32:27
know lady when Toby says that he
32:29
has very fertile hair glance Yes. I.
32:33
Googled that I wondered if it was
32:35
a things oh, fertile hair glance. yeah.
32:38
Do. You want to know the very first thing that comes
32:40
up when you just type in. Fertile.
32:43
Hair glance. Through. Sixty
32:45
one is a photo of Toby
32:47
is no, yeah, it's the very
32:50
first thing that comes up. I
32:52
didn't feel like I'd go any
32:54
further than that. Okay, that was
32:56
amazing. Paul Libor seen just so
32:58
you know on Google. If you
33:00
type in fertile hair glands, a
33:02
photo of you because of that
33:04
is pretty incredible. Will. Toby is
33:06
so delighted that these guys have participated
33:09
in most Ember because he's got a
33:11
buddy group now. they are bonded over
33:13
there mustache and they're all back in
33:15
the an axe hanging out. They go
33:17
to lunch, they do stuff together, hanging
33:19
out. The. Scene was longer increases
33:22
Gonna share about a time she grew
33:24
a mustache. I think we should hear
33:26
it. I had a mustache
33:28
for alleged friends coldest tickler. To
33:31
get right norms. It. Well
33:35
under say that was a good at it.
33:38
That they to tell creed saying is
33:40
lady friends told them that tickler Yes
33:42
oh it cracks me up. Well.
33:45
I'll tell you what cracked me up this next
33:47
scene. Is. One
33:49
of my favorites. Oscar is doing
33:52
some fall cleaning. Teeth. Cleaning
33:54
out his desk drawer. I want you
33:56
to know every single bit about that
33:58
desk drawer was scripted. I know,
34:00
I looked it up, I was like, what
34:03
was this bit? All of
34:05
it, the whole thing, all the details were scripted.
34:08
He's cleaning out this drawer and
34:10
Angela says, I think the senator
34:12
is having an affair and the
34:14
drawer comes unhinged in his hands.
34:17
It is so good. And you know when
34:19
that happens, it's like, you can't get it
34:21
back in there. No, no. Carrie
34:23
Kemper said this is her favorite scene.
34:26
She said she originally scripted it a little
34:28
differently. She said it was originally scripted in
34:30
the kitchen and Oscar was going to be
34:33
toasting some bread and you were going to
34:35
come in and say, I think the senator
34:37
is cheating on me and he was going
34:39
to accidentally knock the toast lever up and
34:41
the toast was going to go flying in
34:43
the air and he's going to like swat
34:45
at the toast. She said it
34:48
was a little much. It got changed
34:50
to the desk drawer gag, but she
34:52
said she just loved seeing Oscar do
34:54
physical comedy and she really, she still
34:56
kind of wishes that she would
34:58
have gotten her toast gag because she thinks Oscar would
35:00
have killed it and she wanted to see your reaction
35:03
of him like swatting toast. It was
35:05
just so funny. I can't even imagine him swatting toast.
35:07
I wouldn't have been able to get through it. Also,
35:12
Oscar feigning surprise or any
35:14
emotion like that is just,
35:17
he's brilliant. He's such a good actor.
35:20
This cuts to a talking head with
35:22
Oscar. He shares that he has had
35:24
nightmares about this exact scenario and
35:27
he wakes up in a sweat and makes Angela's husband
35:29
spoon him back to bed. Well,
35:31
there was actually one more scripted line
35:33
after that line. It's in the
35:35
shooting draft and I thought I'd read it
35:38
to you. All right. After he
35:40
says I would make Angela's husband spoon me back
35:42
to bed, he would then
35:44
look ashamed and then look at camera and
35:46
say, I'm one cold motherfucker. There
35:51
was also a candy bag alt. It was a must
35:53
shoot, so we did shoot it. Oscar
35:55
would have said, I have nightmares in
35:57
which Angela walks in on the senator and me. I
36:00
also have nightmares in which Angela and I
36:02
have lunch. It's weird. Angela's in all my
36:04
nightmares. I kind of
36:06
love that. I did too. I
36:09
love that the idea of the two of them having
36:11
lunch is a nightmare. Well, Angela
36:13
confides an Oscar that the senator
36:17
has a secret little smile on his face
36:19
when he comes home in the morning. An
36:21
Oscar makes a noise like, aww. And
36:25
also, she says, the senator
36:27
is always at this yoga studio. He
36:30
never misses noon hot yoga with
36:32
Blake. And Oscar's like, you
36:35
have nothing to worry about. Blake is
36:37
also a guy's name. So he could
36:39
be spending the day wait with the
36:41
guy. Wait a second. Yes. And then
36:43
Oscar's like, who is this Blake? And
36:45
Angela's like, yeah. And Oscar's like,
36:47
I never heard anything about the senator doing
36:49
yoga, you know, from you. And I'm like,
36:51
right? What's with all the
36:54
yoga? Exactly. And then Oscar's like,
36:56
OK, calm down. But we have to check this
36:58
out. And Angela's like, what? Yeah, he's
37:00
like, I'll go with you. I loved
37:02
every second of this scene. Delicious. It's so
37:04
good. I always thought a really
37:06
fun spin off would be Angela and Oscar being
37:08
roommates. You know, when Angela moves in with him,
37:10
we're not there yet. But I
37:13
remember telling Greg, if I could see anything
37:15
more of this show, it'd be Angela and
37:17
Oscar living together. It's like the
37:19
odd couple. Yes. That's a really good
37:21
idea. I know. All
37:23
right, now we're going to go into
37:25
the conference room. And a bunch of
37:27
the women in the office are trying
37:29
to teach Dwight how to
37:31
pitch to a female client. Yeah. It's
37:34
not going great. No. No.
37:36
They try to do some role playing.
37:38
But Dwight is just creepy. Yeah.
37:41
Dwight's like, no, I'm going to tell her what her
37:43
needs are and fill them all within 12 minutes. And
37:46
everyone's like, OK, pump the brakes, buddy.
37:48
We had a fan question from Zoe
37:50
M. in Arkansas who said, I
37:53
was wondering if Nellie's lines about
37:55
Dwight murdering women were improvised. It
37:57
appears that Rainn Wilson almost breaks
37:59
after. Catherine Tate finishes delivering her
38:02
lines. Well Zoe,
38:04
they were scripted. Yes, they were.
38:06
And afterward, Pam had a talking head.
38:09
Here's what I said. I just want
38:11
to make it clear that Dwight would never
38:13
willingly harm a woman. Although
38:15
if she steps into one of his booby traps, that's on
38:18
her. Well, yeah. That
38:20
goes for anyone. Yes, man or woman. That's
38:22
true. Or animal. That's on you.
38:25
That's right. I have a coffee mug
38:27
call back. Ooh, I bet I know
38:29
which one it is because Tess from
38:31
London, England spotted it as well. Tess,
38:33
did you see Meredith's coffee mug? It's
38:36
the one where Kelly gives everyone a mug that
38:38
came to her America's Got Talent party. Yes.
38:42
Good catch, guys. I still have mine. I
38:44
didn't get one. Pam didn't get
38:46
one. I like that we're sing-songy. We're doing
38:48
that thing. Like, I didn't get one. Well,
38:51
I did. That's right. As if I'm
38:53
not still bitter about it. Ooh, I'm not angry. That
38:55
one, not me. If I sing it, if I sing it, I'm not
38:57
pissed. Well,
38:59
Jim is going to start his big conference call. And
39:02
guess what? He learns he's the
39:04
only one calling in. Everyone else is in
39:06
person in the meeting. Yeah. And
39:09
Kevin keeps distracting him. I
39:11
love that they had him start with that wrapper
39:14
because someone opening up a noisy
39:16
wrapper of like any kind of
39:18
food item would make me crazy.
39:21
Crazy. Well, Jim is
39:24
trying to, I guess he starts whispering and
39:26
they make fun of him for that. Then
39:28
he tries to fix his voice and then
39:30
they make fun of him for that. So,
39:33
that Batman. Fan question from
39:35
Samantha L. in Tampa, Florida. Samantha
39:38
says, is it just me or
39:40
are Jim's colleagues at his new company kind
39:42
of being jerks? I think they're a-holes.
39:44
Yeah. She says him whispering
39:47
or talking in a deeper voice really isn't
39:49
that big of a deal. Isn't
39:51
one of them supposed to be his friend from college?
39:53
This has always bothered me. Am I the only one?
39:55
You are not the only one. I kind of felt
39:57
like they were making fun of him or being- cool
40:00
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40:02
it. I didn't like it. I
40:04
didn't like it that they had absolutely
40:07
like no compassion or patience. I
40:10
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40:12
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40:14
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40:16
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40:18
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40:20
Dwight in the conference room. Yes, we're going
40:22
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40:24
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40:27
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All right we are back and here are
42:33
Pam's selling to women
42:35
rules. Okay let's hear it. Listen.
42:38
Respect physical space. No
42:41
eye rolling. Don't
42:44
insult body. Don't compliment
42:46
body. Don't mention body at
42:48
all. And then she's like
42:50
Dwight are you even listening because he just looks
42:52
like a statue?
42:54
Yeah. And he's like
42:56
yes and then she's like look see what
42:58
I'm doing I'm looking at you and I
43:00
am nodding and I shows you that I
43:02
am listening and Dwight starts to do that
43:05
and it's just so creepy. So
43:08
so creepy. The ladies
43:10
are not convinced that Dwight can do
43:12
this. Meredith says we're screwed and then
43:14
Phyllis tries some role-playing and says Dwight
43:16
ignore every instinct you have they're all
43:18
garbage okay. You're the woman. I'm the
43:20
salesman. Watch what I do and try
43:22
to learn. So Phyllis says Miss
43:25
Thomas good to see you Dwight says hello.
43:27
Phyllis goes oh are those your kids they're
43:29
so cute they could be models. Dwight
43:31
says thank you I'm so proud of them.
43:33
I carried each one of them for nine
43:36
months inside my torso and then pushed them
43:38
out of my vagina. Phyllis had to turn
43:40
her head did you see it she's breaking.
43:42
She's full-on breaking and had to physically turn
43:44
away from the table. I did
43:47
notice it and you know who else
43:49
noticed it? Destiny B from Folsom California
43:51
noticed it. It's at 10 minutes and
43:53
20 seconds. Yes Destiny she's totally breaking
43:56
and then right after that
43:58
line Meredith says boom. So,
44:00
weird. Well
44:03
Pam decides she needs to go with Dwight. Yeah.
44:06
So, they're in the car together and
44:09
she says, Dwight, you know, there's a
44:11
lot of benefits to getting along with
44:13
women. Yeah, Dwight's like, Pam, I don't
44:15
have a problem with women. I have
44:17
a problem with business women. Mm-hmm. Because
44:20
they wear these suits and they have shoulder pads. He's
44:22
very, very put off by shoulder pads. Yeah,
44:24
he says, don't lie about your shoulders. Yeah.
44:27
And I have a fan question from Samantha
44:29
L. in Tampa, Florida, who says, Dwight
44:32
kind of has a point here. Why
44:34
on earth were shoulder pads ever a trend? I
44:37
thought about Googling it, but I had a suspicion
44:39
that the office ladies who Google might already be
44:41
on the case. You're not wrong. Can
44:44
we get a breakdown on the history of
44:46
women's shoulder pads, please? Samantha, I want you
44:48
to know whenever there's a line like this
44:50
in an episode like the phone book, the
44:53
shoulder pads, Jenna and I get very excited. We're
44:55
like, are you taking shoulder pads? I want phone
44:57
book. It's true. I took shoulder
44:59
pads. Yeah. And here is your
45:01
brief history of the shoulder pads. You
45:04
might be interested in hearing that
45:06
shoulder pads did not originate in women's
45:08
clothing. The very first shoulder pad was
45:10
invented in 1877 by a Princeton football
45:12
player. I
45:15
was going to say, isn't that like
45:17
a sports thing? Yes, it was first
45:19
used in American football. The first shoulder
45:21
pads in fashion became popular
45:24
in the 1930s
45:26
when fashion designers Elson
45:28
Chaparelli and Marcel Rochas
45:31
started including them in their designs for women.
45:33
Joan Crawford famously wore shoulder pads
45:35
and they became quite a trend
45:38
in the 1940s. But
45:40
we all know the shoulder pad from the
45:42
1980s. They were the
45:44
defining fashion statement of the 80s. It
45:47
became known as power dressing. It
45:49
gave you the perception of status.
45:51
It gave the appearance of authority
45:53
and confidence. This is also
45:56
why a lot of military uniform jackets,
45:58
both men and women's, almost always
46:00
have padded shoulders. Shoulder
46:03
pads for women also make
46:05
the shoulders and hips appear
46:07
wider, thus making your
46:10
waist look smaller. It
46:12
gives you the illusion of an hourglass figure.
46:15
They've had minor comebacks since the 80s, but
46:17
really nothing as impactful. I
46:20
had a question when I was reviewing this. Why
46:22
do I need an hourglass figure? Why is
46:25
that like the thing? Like
46:27
why do I need a tiny waist? And by the way,
46:30
just full disclosure, this might
46:32
be a question I'm asking because
46:34
I don't have a waist. I
46:36
have a cylinder for a body
46:38
of like a just like a what it would like. I
46:41
don't go in. No, no, no. Maybe
46:44
I did when I was younger. Yes, everyone does
46:46
when they're younger. But do you remember, I mean,
46:48
there's a point in your life where you go to
46:51
your family reunion and you're in
46:53
your 20s and you're looking out at your
46:55
aunts and they're all talking by the food
46:57
table and they all look like marshmallows with
46:59
like toothpick legs. Yeah, that's the
47:01
phase of life we're at. We're
47:03
marshmallows with toothpicks. We've lost
47:05
our waist. It happens. It does
47:07
happen. And you know what? The
47:09
fashion though is still designed for
47:12
the waist. Not for the marshmallow.
47:14
I know. I know. And
47:16
we need more fashion for the cylinder body.
47:18
Yes. Not for the hourglass.
47:21
No, for the straight, for the rectangle. I
47:23
don't know what you would call it. Yes,
47:25
I call it a marshmallow. But I go
47:27
from my shoulder to my hips. It's
47:30
just a straight line. Yes. Right.
47:33
Yeah. So it wouldn't matter if you put shoulder
47:35
pads on me. No, it wouldn't. It's
47:38
not. There's still no waist happening.
47:40
You'd have to put giant shoulder pads
47:42
on me. They never worked on me
47:44
because shoulder pads are like one size
47:46
fits all. But guess what? Not all
47:48
shoulders are the same size. So
47:51
you put a shoulder pad on me that you
47:53
would put on someone taller. And
47:55
I lost my neck. It was like a
47:57
little head sitting on these two little... I
48:00
don't know. I looked like a turtle. I
48:03
just remember that movie Working Girl. There were
48:05
so many shoulder pads on, Literally. ads. And.
48:07
I do remember Joan Crawford. When.
48:09
She walks into that boardroom has
48:12
the yep see company she goes
48:14
down but. Ah,
48:17
now Joan Crawford to do a shoulder
48:19
to said she gets the past. She's
48:21
the one. Guess. Ah, There.
48:24
It is there. it is. I hope you
48:26
liked it. I liked it. I have one
48:29
background catch here in the scene at eleven
48:31
minutes and sixteen seconds, Did. Anyone
48:33
else watching this wonder? What the heck? Pam.
48:36
And right are driving pass it looks
48:38
like a bunch of orange vehicles maybe
48:40
like road crew vehicles you know are
48:42
like some kind of transportation orange I
48:44
didn't know. Yells and then lots of
48:47
stuff that looks like baghdad trash. Anyone
48:49
else got eleven minutes, sixteen seconds and
48:51
be like what the heck, is that?
48:53
What was it? I don't know. Oh
48:55
I took a screen grab or a
48:57
questioning it. we're not answering it. Does
48:59
anyone else now please write me? Well
49:02
we got another fan question about this
49:04
scene from Gabriel and in Brazil. Who
49:06
said after four years, you guys might
49:08
be able to finally and my seven
49:11
year long quest. There is a deleted
49:13
scene where Pam and Way or in
49:15
the car and Dwight is shaping himself
49:17
up to some allowed metal. Yes, he's
49:20
hiding himself up to the when this
49:22
big sale? Yes sir. Actually in the
49:24
parking lot outside of the building where
49:26
they're gonna do the sale. He's.
49:29
Doing that thing that he does right?
49:31
So Gabriel goes on to say. That
49:34
after seeing Pam's discomfort to this
49:36
metal music, Dwight changes to a
49:38
softer song. Yeah, Gabriel says, do
49:40
you guys know either the song
49:42
or the singer of the softer
49:45
song I love that little snippet
49:47
of it, but I've never been
49:49
able to find it. Well.
49:52
I remember shooting this. But. I
49:54
can remember the songs and I didn't
49:56
recognize that when I really watched it.
49:58
That's because. Steeper, told
50:00
me that it was scripted to switch
50:03
from a Metallica track
50:06
to a carpenters track. Metallica
50:09
said yes, great, the carpenters
50:11
said no. So then what
50:13
did we switch to? We ended up recording
50:15
it with no music and
50:17
this is why I couldn't remember. We
50:20
added the music in post and
50:22
we just used what Steve called
50:24
library tracks. It's just
50:26
generic tracks of styles of
50:28
music. It's much less
50:30
expensive but Steve said unfortunately he didn't have
50:32
any information about it but it's kind of
50:35
like the stock photo of the music world.
50:37
So it was they were not like songs
50:39
that we could point to they were just
50:42
this stock music. That's why I couldn't
50:44
figure it out. Yes and also Gabrielle
50:46
why you couldn't figure it out. Right.
50:49
Well Angela and Oscar are now at the
50:51
yoga studio. They're actually in a
50:53
food court where they can look through like a
50:55
glass window into the yoga
50:58
studio. Yeah you guys are drinking
51:00
what are you drinking shakes? Are
51:02
you drinking smoothies? They were like
51:05
smoothies. Okay. The senator
51:07
walks in with a very petite
51:09
blonde. This really really sends Angela
51:11
off. Oh she's a double zero.
51:13
Oh sure. And then she starts
51:15
adjusting his hips for downward dog.
51:18
Angela's like I have heard of
51:20
this. Yeah. Dog style. But
51:22
then a guy walks up with a ponytail
51:25
and gives the yoga instructor a big hug
51:27
and Angela is so relieved. She's like oh
51:29
guy with a ponytail I'd like to see
51:31
that run for office. Yeah. But
51:34
then Oscar sees the senator
51:36
hugging a man. Mm-hmm. Who
51:39
then starts giving him some adjustments as
51:41
he's doing his yoga pose. Yeah. He
51:43
says Angela's ready to leave
51:46
but Oscar says no shut
51:48
up or staying. The plot
51:50
thickens. Mm-hmm. Jim
51:52
is still trying to take this phone call
51:54
and make this meeting happen. He now
51:56
goes outside but there's construction going on and
51:59
then he kind of leans on Meredith's van
52:01
and sets an alarm off. And
52:03
this is my favorite line of the whole
52:06
episode. Hank comes out and is like,
52:08
are those skateboarders back? And then
52:10
Meredith is like, who is messing with my van?
52:13
And then Hank yells, and this is my favorite
52:15
line, this ends now!
52:18
Like he is done. He is ready
52:20
to take on this whole pack of
52:22
skateboarders. And poor Jim is
52:25
like, where can I talk to these people?
52:28
Oh, where can you talk to these people
52:30
Jim? We've got a fan mail flurry to
52:32
answer that question. What is it? It really
52:34
teed some people off. Fan question
52:37
from Deanna H in Plant City, Florida,
52:39
who said, why wouldn't Jim
52:41
just go into Andy's office to make the
52:43
call? Andy isn't there. Sarah
52:46
C from New Jersey said, I have
52:48
been waiting so long to comment on
52:50
Jim's phone call. I was so frustrated
52:53
with Jim in this episode because there
52:55
was no need for this Jim. Here
52:57
is a list of 10 places where Jim
52:59
could have taken that call. I can't wait
53:02
to hear this because one place came to
53:04
mind immediately for me. I bet you can
53:06
guess it. I don't know. It's
53:08
where all the secret stuff happens. The
53:10
secret stairwell! The stairwell, why didn't he
53:12
go to the stairwell? Yes, that was
53:14
number four on her list. Let's hear
53:16
the rest. All right, number one, Andy's
53:19
office. Number two, Daryl's
53:21
office. Surely Daryl would have given
53:23
him his office for this, I mean, how long is
53:25
this phone call gonna be? Not long. Three,
53:28
inside Pam and Jim's car. Yeah,
53:31
I thought of that too. The stairwell.
53:34
Number five, close off the break room like
53:37
how Toby did when he was having a
53:39
counseling session with Michael. Six,
53:42
the former Michael Scott Paper Company
53:44
room. There it is. Seven,
53:46
the room that they used for spying
53:49
on Danny Cordray. Number
53:51
eight, the Dwight Schrute Jim for
53:53
muscles. Number
53:56
nine, Ryan's closet. Oh
53:58
yeah, number 10. Then the closet in
54:01
your accounting where Jim and Pam sneak off
54:03
in the episode PDA. This
54:06
is a really good list. Really
54:08
good list. I understand the whole list. The only
54:10
two that I think would be difficult are Andy's
54:13
office and Daryl's office. I'll tell you why. Why?
54:16
Because people can look in and be nosy and be like, hey, what
54:18
are you doing in here? Like Kevin would be like, what's up? What
54:20
are we doing in here? Are we hanging out? Yeah. All
54:23
the rest I think makes sense. I've got another one. Home.
54:26
Home. Go home. It's
54:28
the office that's going to give you grief about it. Dwight
54:31
has left and Andy's not there. Yeah.
54:33
Toby is completely distracted by his Movember gang. Just
54:35
sneak out and go home and take the call.
54:38
They don't live that far. No. Dwight
54:41
and Pam are now walking into the
54:43
office where they're going to meet this
54:45
new prospective client and
54:47
Pam asks the receptionist Molly for the
54:49
woman's name, but Molly won't tell
54:51
her the name. And
54:53
Pam starts to look around the room and
54:56
Jen, I thought your performance was so great
54:58
as you start to see multiple clues that
55:00
this is Dan. Yes.
55:03
You know, I asked Carrie about
55:05
her role as Molly because she's
55:07
so funny. I remember she
55:09
did it at the table read, which often
55:11
happened. Like writers would read some of the
55:13
smaller roles because sometimes those roles would get
55:15
cut after the table read. So they didn't
55:17
want to cast them until they were like
55:19
locked in. Yes. So she
55:21
said that after the table read, they
55:23
asked her to play the part. She
55:26
said she had used to act in musicals in
55:28
high schools and college, but had never done any
55:30
on-camera work before. And she said one
55:33
of the things that she remembered the most from
55:35
the shoot, it's a very funny story. She
55:37
said she remembered walking on set and that
55:39
I looked at her and I said, Oh
55:41
my gosh, I think you're wearing one of
55:43
your sister's outfit. One of
55:46
Aaron's outfit? Yes.
55:48
Because you know, that would happen sometimes. We
55:50
would have guest actors and I would look
55:52
over and they would be wearing some of
55:54
Pam's clothes. This happened. I'd be like,
55:56
I think that's my jacket. Yeah.
56:00
Oh yeah, It turns out if you look
56:02
at this outfit it is one of errands
56:04
out she was wearing an error. an outfit
56:06
which I actually think as a really sweet
56:09
nod to them being sisters. Yeah I do
56:11
too. Well. Jan is not happy
56:13
that it is Dwight and Pam.
56:15
She was really hoping for a
56:17
reunion, a revenge union with David
56:19
Wallace. Dwight. Is gonna try
56:22
to butter her up by complimenting
56:24
Astrid saying she could be a
56:26
bubble bath models So creepy Dwight
56:28
Miller does. Something. In the
56:30
seen that I had to go back.
56:32
I had a rewind because I thought
56:34
it was so great. It's not in
56:36
the script is just Muller A being
56:38
Jan and she's so brilliant was she's
56:40
frustrated and talking to them. Jan picks
56:42
up a frame and whites the dust
56:45
off with her boobs. I know they
56:47
are so so funny.is not in the
56:49
scripts. Miller is so good we got
56:51
a lot of fan mail. People wanted
56:53
to know who's idea was to bring
56:55
the lore back. Well, it
56:57
was gold. In this final
56:59
season he wanted us to touch base
57:02
with some of the author favorites remember
57:04
David Denman Chaos, Noise Weddings. So this
57:06
was the see an episode and I
57:08
traded text with Muller up because after
57:11
I watched this episode I was like
57:13
city So good is so good. She
57:15
said it was so great to get
57:17
the come back and see everybody. She
57:19
said she especially loved all of the
57:22
Pam and Jam awkward interactions. And
57:24
I had to ask her about that skydiving
57:26
soto t that was like tissue. What is
57:28
that like what? How did you do that
57:31
Because it was scripted that there was gonna
57:33
be the skydiving photo and it all fairly
57:35
big to take some the whole wall. She
57:37
said that she had to come in one
57:39
day and they put earnest sky diving suit
57:41
and they had a relay on a table
57:43
that was green movement and a set up.
57:46
a fan and may blue at your face.
57:48
And then in posts they removed the
57:50
table and they put in the sky
57:52
backgrounds and that's how the picture. By
57:55
the way, angela. I. Don't know
57:57
if you know this. There. Is a huge
57:59
month. Krauthammer with Muller. Ah. Yes,
58:03
I have been told this she plays
58:05
Trudy Monk. Yes, she is his ex
58:07
wife who was killed in a car
58:09
bomb. Any, she comes back like as
58:12
an apparition some time. Yes and her
58:14
murder is the only one that Adrian
58:16
Monk has not been able to solve.
58:18
Get was like this: Whole. Runner
58:21
of the series. I'll have
58:23
you know she is back for the
58:25
Monk movie monks. Last case of I
58:27
am not because my character went to
58:29
jail. Sorry for the spoiler. Yeah.
58:32
Well. I loved all the little accents
58:35
on Jan's desk. I'm sure a
58:37
lot of you notice these as
58:39
well. She has her Serenity candle.
58:41
She has a fancy Penn said
58:43
she has clunky both. Pledge.
58:45
Oh yes. Oh you know
58:48
why my clock he balls or tangled. Oh
58:50
you have to bring them. And for cast
58:52
we need Cassie to untangle mike lackey balls.
58:55
Jan not only of concubine but she has
58:57
basket of balls. And then she
58:59
has one of those little many then
59:01
like Sandler hundred and and I just
59:03
love the physical comedy. Call Back that
59:05
Wins and got stress. She lit one
59:07
of her own candles and says he
59:09
was certain. I love that too. Well.
59:11
Becomes very clear to Pam very
59:14
quickly that. Jan has no
59:16
intention of giving them her business the
59:18
he's like we need to go. But.
59:20
Dwight as like know stay here I have
59:22
an idea and he leaves. And.
59:24
Pans just the sort of just sell the
59:27
time until Dwight gets back to seen with
59:29
much longer of Pam trying to bond with
59:31
San. I really want you to hear
59:33
it isn't deleted scene. And
59:36
certainly sign. My sperm donor
59:38
was a Caltech physicists or sperm donor
59:40
says papers. I might
59:42
or might have the new of the
59:44
same years from was free. To.
59:47
Get would say. Well
59:49
to my love each other so that's
59:51
gonna be worth something. So now you're
59:53
saying that I'm on Lovable. That's a
59:55
huge that for years basically say i'm
59:57
very sorry I mean I can tell.
1:00:00
I'm I'm sorry. I.
1:00:02
Hear it. You have
1:00:04
another one of these. the slideshow.
1:00:07
Let's let's. See as my. My
1:00:11
goodness, Chan. Is so
1:00:13
unpredictable campuses trying to fix have
1:00:15
a conversation. Are you saying I'm
1:00:17
on lovable? Like wait how we
1:00:19
get there but like trying to
1:00:22
defend yourself because the to yeah
1:00:24
is insulting her. I know. Oh
1:00:26
my goodness. I. Also feel like
1:00:28
we have to talk about the slide. So
1:00:30
and the songs and this is the last
1:00:32
time we're going to hear Jan saying yeah
1:00:35
and we need to hit a T. Wow.
1:00:59
Is right now is the
1:01:01
only response to that. Wow
1:01:04
Wow Oh no! Laura Amazing!
1:01:06
Amazing job! Well, there's
1:01:08
a lot of flirty at reception
1:01:10
happening. There. Is trying to
1:01:12
talk to Iran, but she's very grossed
1:01:14
out by his moustache. Here's a list
1:01:16
of all the insults Errands has to
1:01:18
pee. And. Me: She says them
1:01:21
nicely. She says there's an eyebrow in the
1:01:23
middle of your face. She. Says
1:01:25
it's here. Handsome eyebrow makes it look
1:01:27
like your mouth is like an eye
1:01:30
sockets. She. Also says he looks like
1:01:32
a Cyclops but this is I sell out. And
1:01:35
p immediately goes a him she's
1:01:37
awesome as last. Exactly. Movember
1:01:40
is over now. Yeah, Back
1:01:42
as a yoga studio, Oscar and Angela
1:01:45
continue to spy on the Senator. And.
1:01:48
Oscar. Suggests.
1:01:51
that maybe the a fair that angeles
1:01:53
should be worried about his with this
1:01:55
man yeah it was like us to
1:01:57
what is happening here why would you
1:02:00
you think the senator might be gay." And I
1:02:02
loved Oscar's performance here when he says, I
1:02:05
don't know, Angela, I'm dehydrated. Maybe you heard
1:02:07
me wrong. We should just go. And
1:02:09
then Angela's like, oh, here he comes. What's he doing? And
1:02:11
Oscar says he's making a phone call. And
1:02:14
then Oscar's phone rings. This
1:02:17
is how the stage direction was written for this
1:02:19
moment in the shooting draft. Okay. Suddenly,
1:02:21
Oscar's phone rings. Angela looks at the
1:02:23
phone. Oscar fumbles with it, trying
1:02:26
to turn it off. Angela looks
1:02:28
from Oscar to the senator and
1:02:30
back. Oscar looks at
1:02:32
her guiltily. She reads it in
1:02:34
his face and knows. Very
1:02:37
interesting. That all played out. I
1:02:39
mean, I saw all of that play out in your
1:02:41
scene. Well, you know, we
1:02:43
filmed the scene multiple times. They kept moving the
1:02:45
camera around because they really wanted to make sure
1:02:48
that they could capture Oscar and I
1:02:50
looking at each other, but that we were also
1:02:52
hidden from the senator, but that the camera could
1:02:54
see the senator. So they kept
1:02:56
moving the camera around and I
1:02:59
actually have all of the unedited takes from
1:03:01
this moment. Really? Yeah. They were given to
1:03:03
me way back when I found him in
1:03:05
my digital clutter and I have all of
1:03:07
them. The moment the phone rings and I
1:03:09
look at him in some takes,
1:03:12
they had me grab my coat and walk off
1:03:14
in a huff. And then other takes, they just
1:03:16
had me hold the stare at him. And
1:03:18
that's what they used. Wow.
1:03:20
Well, it's really funny when I was watching
1:03:22
this episode and I saw these scenes, I
1:03:25
was like, why do I feel like I
1:03:27
was there? This was a location. I wouldn't
1:03:29
have been there, but Angela, I was, I
1:03:31
was. Steve
1:03:33
Burgess reminded me that we shot
1:03:35
this yoga studio at the 360
1:03:37
health club in Reseda, California.
1:03:40
In the morning we shot in the
1:03:42
parking lot. We shot that scene of
1:03:44
me and Dwight and
1:03:46
we did all of our driving
1:03:48
scenes around this area and I
1:03:50
came in and I said hi
1:03:52
to you guys because they were
1:03:54
setting up your interior work. So
1:03:56
I was there. Oh my
1:03:59
gosh. I know. I totally remember it. Our base
1:04:01
camp was in the parking lot. And so I was
1:04:04
there that day. I remember. And I
1:04:06
love those scenes. Thank you. I absolutely love them.
1:04:08
And I loved rewatching them. And I want to
1:04:10
call Oscar and be like, Oscar, let's do a
1:04:12
show. You should. Well,
1:04:15
Dwight is now going to come back to Jan's office
1:04:17
and guess who he has in tow? Clark.
1:04:20
Clark. Clark? Like as a token?
1:04:22
Like Dwight is offering up Clark
1:04:25
to Jan? What the heck? Well,
1:04:27
he says Molly is a crap
1:04:29
assistant. You can have Clark. Yeah.
1:04:31
How about that? Pam's like, Clark, you don't have to
1:04:33
do this. And he goes, No, I want to get
1:04:36
ahead. I want to get ahead in the paper sale
1:04:38
industry. Do you know why the storyline
1:04:40
was in place? Where was Clark
1:04:42
in real life going? Yes,
1:04:45
he had Clark needed time off to
1:04:47
go film kick ass to. So
1:04:49
we put Ed on a boat, because
1:04:51
he was off filming Hangover three, we gave
1:04:54
Clark to Jan because he had to
1:04:57
film kick ass to also after we
1:04:59
shot this episode, we took a three
1:05:01
week hiatus to give these gentlemen
1:05:03
a little bit more time to do their movies.
1:05:06
Oh, well, did
1:05:09
you hear that? It's exactly one year ago
1:05:11
at the same time
1:05:14
that I was asking
1:05:16
for maternity leave. Correct. And I was
1:05:19
told we can't do that. No, we
1:05:21
can't take, you know, three week break
1:05:23
so that you can heal from birthing
1:05:26
a human. Yeah, we
1:05:28
couldn't do that. We've done it all
1:05:31
the other years. Yeah. For
1:05:33
movie projects seasons one, two, seven,
1:05:35
and then again here in season nine. But
1:05:38
apparently in season eight, we
1:05:41
just couldn't. You know
1:05:43
what, you should have been in kick ass three. Maybe
1:05:46
if I'd done blades of glory to I could
1:05:48
have had three weeks off. I don't know
1:05:51
what kick ass is. I don't know
1:05:53
kick ass one. Oh, it's a
1:05:55
really funny movie. I need to see it. Yeah.
1:05:58
I mean, I love Clark. But
1:06:00
yeah, I hear you on all of that. Yeah,
1:06:02
I hear you. Anywho,
1:06:06
I'll leave it there. We'll leave it there
1:06:08
and we're gonna save it for our spin-off
1:06:10
podcast, Office Ladies Burn It to the Ground.
1:06:16
This episode ends with Pam and Dwight.
1:06:19
They are leaving and they run into
1:06:21
Molly. And Pam says, I
1:06:23
think you should quit. And Dwight wishes
1:06:25
her luck with her feelings. Pam
1:06:27
is like, wow, Dwight, you should ask her for
1:06:29
her number. And then
1:06:32
he says, I already did. He
1:06:35
reads off what's clearly a license plate.
1:06:38
And Pam says, oh,
1:06:40
is that her license number, lady?
1:06:42
I was very confused why you would call it
1:06:44
a license number. Oh. So
1:06:46
I went to the shooting draft and
1:06:49
your actual line is, Dwight, that's a
1:06:51
license plate. But I
1:06:53
said license number. It's dated, I've fumbled
1:06:55
it and it stayed in. But
1:06:58
it cracked me up. And
1:07:00
it's a very sweet moment though between Dwight
1:07:02
and Pam because Dwight says you
1:07:05
are my hand. Yeah,
1:07:07
yeah. I always love those
1:07:09
moments. There's a really great episode coming
1:07:11
up that actually Lee, my husband Lee
1:07:13
directed, it's vandalism and
1:07:16
Pam and Dwight are gonna team up to
1:07:18
figure out who vandalized something. I won't, I
1:07:21
guess, spoil it, but this is a duo
1:07:23
I love. I love Pam and Dwight and
1:07:25
I love Angela and Oscar. Me too. All
1:07:28
right, you guys, that was the whale. We
1:07:30
wanna thank you all for writing in and
1:07:32
sending your questions and your comments. We love
1:07:34
them so much. A big thank you to
1:07:36
Steve Burgess, Kerri Kemper and to Melora Hardin,
1:07:39
who by the way, I don't know if
1:07:41
you know this, but she started a line
1:07:43
of wallpaper. Yes, it's
1:07:45
beautiful. Beautiful. And she
1:07:47
also stars in a one-woman film
1:07:49
called Golden Vanity. The film has
1:07:51
won several awards at various film
1:07:53
festivals, including three best actress
1:07:56
awards for Melora. You can learn more
1:07:58
about the movie and more about her wallpaper. at
1:08:00
melora.com. But don't you worry, because I'll
1:08:02
put it in stories, y'all, with a
1:08:04
swipey. Yes, you will. Alright, bye you
1:08:06
guys. See you next week! Thank
1:08:14
you for listening to August Ladies. August
1:08:16
Ladies is produced by Erewolf, Janet Fisher,
1:08:18
and Angela Kinsey. Our senior producer
1:08:20
is Kathy Jorkins, our in-studio engineer
1:08:22
is Sam Kiefer, our editing
1:08:25
and mixing engineer is Jordan Bessie, and
1:08:27
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1:08:29
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