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Everyone in our family, my sister, parents,

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and myself thought they were a

1:01

perfect match. Emma was very

1:03

polite, well educated, had a great family,

1:05

whom we had met a few times,

1:07

and was head over heels

1:09

for Matt. Fast forward

1:11

to three months ago, and Emma finds

1:14

out that Matt cheated on

1:16

her with another woman,

1:19

Cindy, female 25. Damn,

1:24

10 years, almost 10 years younger. Needless

1:27

to say, the marriage has been

1:29

called off, and everyone has been

1:31

beyond angry with Matt. Matt fumbled

1:33

back. He really did. Our

1:35

parents haven't spoken to Matt since the

1:38

fallout of what's happened, and even I

1:40

have only spoken to him

1:43

twice, each call lasting less

1:45

than five minutes. Our

1:47

sister has also not spoken with him

1:49

either. This morning, I received a call

1:51

from Matt saying that he wanted to

1:54

reconcile with the family. He mentioned how

1:56

upset and depressed he's been since making

1:58

the worst mistake of his life. to

4:00

talk to you anymore. And so

4:02

the parents aren't talking to him, the other

4:04

sister isn't talking to him, and OP isn't

4:06

talking to him. OP

4:09

is still, OP's brother

4:11

is still with Cindy, and then OP

4:13

calls, OP's brother calls, OP, and is

4:16

like, hey, I'm really depressed, can

4:18

you give us another chance? OP

4:21

basically hung up on

4:24

her brother because it's like, hey, you

4:26

dug your own grave, you can sleep

4:28

in it. This is OP

4:31

and their brother. Yeah, so it's OP,

4:33

OP's brother who cheated on his wife,

4:35

his new affair partner, now girlfriend Cindy,

4:38

and then the parents. Why is he

4:40

asking his sister for, oh, oh, he's

4:42

asking his sister for a second chance

4:45

as a sibling. Yeah, because he's like,

4:47

I'm depressed, and I just want

4:49

to be with my family again. I

4:52

was like, for a second

4:55

chance at what step, bro? Like,

4:58

what the heck? No, second chance at a

5:00

familial relationship. At a familial sibling relationship for

5:02

support. Do they still talk to the ex?

5:04

I don't know if they still talk to the ex, but

5:08

they, oh, you mean like, does the family still talk to the ex?

5:10

There was no mention of that. But

5:12

yeah, but OP's brother and Cindy,

5:16

the affair partner, are still together.

5:19

Got you. Oh, is this, is

5:21

OP, okay, yes, yeah, sorry. I'm

5:25

reading comprehension low. My

5:28

male 34, so OP, OP's brother,

5:30

OP's a man. Oh

5:35

yeah. Oh yeah, he

5:37

is. OP's a man, so they're

5:40

full context. Do you think OP's the

5:42

a-hole for basically saying, you can

5:44

go ahead and F off? Basically,

5:49

they cut, the family cut,

5:53

their sibling and son

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out for cheating. Honestly, I,

8:00

I have no idea what's happening. I have no

8:02

idea what's happening over here. So like,

8:05

yeah, anyways. You're doing great. I'm trying,

8:07

I'm trying. Anyways. You're

8:09

doing great. You're doing great. Yeah,

8:12

I think the a-hole, but I think a

8:15

lot of people in the chat are saying

8:17

not the a-hole. Was Cindy

8:19

someone's partner like a family member or friends?

8:22

No, no, it's just like he cheated on his

8:25

partner. So they have like, Cindy is

8:27

just a random person. Are

8:30

there kids involved? No.

8:35

No, yeah. Matt was

8:38

engaged to this woman for the past year.

8:40

So they were engaged, they were engaged for

8:42

a year. And

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then he cheated. So not that it

8:48

excuses him, but they weren't even married.

8:50

So they weren't married, didn't have kids.

8:52

Cindy is not the partner of anyone

8:54

in the family. Sam's

8:57

golden rule. You can cheat as long as

8:59

you're not married. Wait,

9:02

how do I zoom? How do I zoom? How

9:04

do I zoom? I

9:06

must, yeah. Yeah,

9:09

no, there's no children. There's no children. I think

9:11

it's a little bit harsh. I

9:13

think it's too harsh. It's, yeah. If

9:16

anything, I would stay, I

9:19

would continue the line of communication to continue

9:21

to hold them accountable. Yeah,

9:23

yeah. That's actually a good point. Because

9:26

the more you isolate and excommunicate

9:29

someone, the more they're gonna feel

9:32

that they have no choice but maybe to

9:34

the continued behavior. They need good role models.

9:36

It pressures them. Yeah, it pressures them. They

9:38

know that they'll get called out again if

9:40

they do that. Exactly, and

9:42

if they don't have anyone looking over them, then they might

9:44

just do it again. Would

9:47

you cut your sister out if she cheated on her partner?

9:50

No, I don't think so. I wouldn't cut my

9:52

sister out. I would be naughty, don't

9:54

do that. Yeah, like why are you doing

9:56

that? Why would you do that? Yeah, if

9:58

anything, I would like try to. Neither

24:00

a agreement nor disagreement, but

24:04

I think siblings and children

24:06

are hard. Yeah. Have

24:09

you seen Dexter? I haven't, but

24:12

I know the premise. It's like the serial killer

24:14

who gets other serial killers. Yeah, but his dad

24:16

is like, I know you have these urges to

24:18

kill, but you got to do

24:20

it in a way that is healthy and

24:22

basically like teaches his son to kill

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bad people. He's

24:28

like, I know you have this urge to

24:30

kill in your sociopath, but, but

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I'm your dad and I'm here for you. I'm on

24:34

board. I'm on board for that because now,

24:37

because now you're not actually, you are

24:39

doing it to the people

24:41

that are causing the harm, therefore reducing

24:43

the harm. Therefore

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doing good. Yeah.

24:50

Yeah. I think I agree.

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I'm down for that. Matt, Matt could

24:54

have a brain injury at birth, you know,

24:56

no one sees a sociopath. Yeah.

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He's an idiot. That's an idiot. Anyway,

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it was jelly. This is, oh, Sam

25:04

would use her to his advantage if

25:06

she was murderous. What? What

25:13

are you thinking about? Oh my gosh,

25:15

dude, the comments have been coming for

25:17

me lately. This

25:22

shit is hard. You tried delivering a five star

25:24

podcast. Make it easier on mama.

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Go to OK, OPs profile page, click about

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then rate at five stars. Okay.

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Okay. Now. Congratulations.

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Sam, you have a beautiful

25:38

five star podcast. Thank you,

25:41

listener.