Episode Transcript
Transcripts are displayed as originally observed. Some content, including advertisements may have changed.
Use Ctrl + F to search
0:00
Lead magnets are crucial if you
0:02
want to grow and scale your
0:04
online business, because a lead magnet
0:06
is anything you give your audience
0:08
for free, again, in exchange for
0:10
their name and email address. I'm
0:14
Amy Porterfield, ex-corporate girl turned CEO
0:16
of a multi-seven-figure business. But it
0:18
wasn't all that long ago that
0:21
I lacked the confidence, the budget,
0:23
and the time to focus on
0:25
growing my small but mighty business.
0:28
Fast forward past many failed attempts
0:31
and lessons learned, and you'll see
0:33
the business I have today. One
0:35
that changes lives and gives me
0:37
more freedom than I ever thought
0:39
possible. One that used to
0:42
only exist as a daydream. I
0:45
created the Online Marketing Made Easy podcast
0:47
to give you simple, actionable, step-by-step strategies
0:49
to help you do the same. If
0:52
you're an ambitious entrepreneur or one in
0:54
the making who's looking to create a
0:56
business that makes an impact and a
0:59
life you love, you're in the right
1:01
place, friend. Let's get started. My
1:10
Brand Voice Guide is my business's
1:12
North Star when it comes to
1:14
keeping all my business content and
1:17
marketing content clear, consistent, and inviting.
1:20
That's why I created the Brand Voice
1:22
Guide outline you wish you had sooner,
1:24
which is a free resource to help
1:26
your business experience the same as mine.
1:29
All you have to do is
1:31
plug in your business details into
1:33
the given outline that I've created
1:35
that has all the essential components
1:37
of a Brand Voice Guide. You
1:40
don't even have to pay to get
1:42
it created like I did. You can
1:44
plug in your information, and you'll be
1:46
well on your way to having a
1:49
cohesive voice across all brand assets. I've
1:51
even shared my own Brand Voice Guide with
1:53
you so you can use it as a
1:56
reference as you craft your own. It's like
1:58
having a mentor right by your side. So
2:00
go to amyporterfield.com/voice guide to
2:03
grab your copy of the
2:05
brand voice guide outline you
2:07
wish you had sooner. And
2:09
I can promise you you're
2:11
going to elevate your brand
2:13
instantly. That's
2:15
amyporterfield.com/voice guide.
2:18
Well, hey there, welcome back to online
2:20
marketing made easy. I'm thrilled that you're
2:22
here today because this episode is going
2:24
to be a game changer for you
2:27
when it comes to creating a
2:29
lead magnet that will help you
2:31
grow your email list with quality
2:34
leads. Now if you've been
2:36
here with me for a while, you may have
2:38
listened to a couple episodes about lead magnets already.
2:40
And that's great if you have, you'll have a
2:42
little bit of a head start because you're already
2:45
familiar with some of the things I'm going to
2:47
go over. But this
2:49
episode is like the Holy Grail of
2:51
lead magnet creation, because I'm going to
2:53
walk you through the entire process from
2:56
A to Z so that you can
2:58
make sure you are setting yourself up
3:00
for success from the very beginning. This
3:03
is a pretty hefty episode. It's jam
3:05
packed full of information. So make sure
3:08
that you have a notepad or a
3:10
Google doc open to take some notes.
3:13
And I just want to say that typically
3:15
when I do these episodes, when I do
3:18
a solo episode, that is more step by
3:20
step. These are the most popular episodes. So
3:23
I'd love to know what you felt about this
3:25
episode. If you want more like this, just drop
3:27
into my DMs. I'm at Amy Porterfield on Instagram.
3:29
Let me know if you want more of these
3:31
or how you felt about this because I'm making
3:33
it for you, my friend. So if you didn't
3:36
love it, I want to know if you did
3:38
love it. I want to know. So give me
3:40
some feedback. So I kind of know what direction,
3:42
because these are a lot of work. What I'm
3:44
going to share with you, this took a long
3:46
time to create and I'm all about it, but
3:49
I want to make sure that you're putting it
3:51
into use and you feel like it's full of
3:53
value. So anyway, feedback
3:55
would be greatly appreciated. All right,
3:57
let's dive in. Now.
4:00
As I go through this episode, I want
4:02
you to approach it with a beginner's mind.
4:05
Because if you're listening, then you want to
4:07
grow your email list. If you're listening, then
4:09
you see the value of an email list.
4:11
You know this is an area you probably
4:13
don't pay close attention to or give it
4:15
enough energy and attention. And
4:17
you know that if you grow your email list, it
4:19
will be easier to sell online. Social
4:21
media alone is not enough. It is
4:23
fickle. You do not own it. You
4:25
do own your email list. From
4:28
personal experience, I would never have the business
4:31
I have today if I wasn't able
4:33
to utilize a thriving email list. And
4:36
so if you want to take the
4:38
pressure off of making social be everything
4:40
to your business, meaning selling, growing an
4:43
audience, connecting with an audience, and you
4:45
would like your email list to do
4:47
some of that heavy lifting, then this
4:49
is the episode for you. But
4:52
you need to go through it with a beginner's
4:54
mind because you're going to know some of this
4:56
stuff, but you're going to walk away with pure
4:58
value that you can apply right away. And
5:01
so I just want you to have an open mind and
5:04
let's get into all the detail. Now
5:06
you may already be familiar with the concept
5:09
of a lead magnet, but people
5:11
call lead magnets different things like opt-ins
5:13
or a free offer or a free
5:15
giveaway or a free resource. So whatever
5:18
you want to call it, we are
5:20
talking about something that you create in
5:22
exchange for a name and email. Lead
5:26
magnets are crucial if you want to
5:28
grow and scale your online business because
5:30
a lead magnet is anything you give
5:33
your audience for free, again, in exchange
5:35
for their name and email address. Think
5:38
about some of the brands you like and
5:40
engage with. Chances are you've given
5:42
your email address to them to gain access
5:44
to some of their content. Maybe
5:47
it was a quick guide or a checklist or
5:49
a video. Maybe it was the
5:51
results of a quiz that you took. Maybe
5:53
it was a coupon code, which is really
5:55
popular for physical products. These are
5:58
all examples of lead magnets. Now,
6:00
a successful lead magnet leads
6:02
your ideal customer avatar or
6:04
your ICA to engage with
6:07
your brand, to consume the
6:10
free value you're offering and
6:12
ultimately turns them into fans
6:14
and ideally paying customers down
6:16
the road. So when your
6:18
ICA dives into your free lead magnet, you want
6:20
them to say, oh wow,
6:23
I can't believe I got this for
6:25
free. If this is free, imagine what
6:27
the paid stuff looks like. You want
6:30
it to be that good. You want
6:32
your lead magnet to be the conversation
6:34
starter that peaks their interest. They're
6:37
not ready to buy yet, so you're
6:39
going to meet them where they're at
6:41
right now and they're looking for a
6:43
solution to their immediate challenge or their
6:46
immediate desire. I always
6:48
say your lead magnet helps your
6:50
ICA cross an invisible bridge and
6:52
you're helping them get to where
6:54
they want to be. All
6:56
right. So now that you
6:59
know the purpose of a lead
7:01
magnet, let's talk about the fun
7:03
stuff. How the heck do
7:05
you figure out what the topic of
7:07
your lead magnet should be? This
7:10
is where so many of my students get stuck,
7:12
but I promise this is much simpler than you
7:14
think it might be. To help
7:16
you determine the topic of your lead
7:18
magnet, there are a few simple questions
7:20
you can ask yourself. Remember, the purpose
7:23
of your lead magnet is to help
7:25
your ICA solve an immediate problem or
7:28
pain point or a desire
7:30
that they have. So here are some questions
7:33
you can ask. What
7:35
is the best place to start
7:37
the conversation with your ideal customer
7:39
avatar? So the best
7:41
place to start the conversation, which
7:44
usually is right where they are
7:46
right now. One of the
7:48
biggest mistakes I see with lead magnets is you
7:50
are starting the conversation deep into
7:52
your topic and
7:55
it's far beyond where your audience is
7:57
actually starting. So you're 10 steps ahead.
8:00
teaching them some advanced strategy or
8:02
some advanced concept and they're like,
8:04
whoa, whoa, whoa. I literally just
8:06
started this journey and I've got
8:08
questions and concerns and challenges that
8:11
I'm not even there yet. So
8:13
usually you got to back up
8:15
a little bit, meet them
8:17
where they're at with whatever it is you're giving
8:19
them in that lead magnet so that they feel
8:21
like you read their mind like, oh, how did
8:23
you know that's where I am right now? How'd
8:25
you know that's what I was thinking? But you
8:28
tend to need to take a few steps
8:30
back to really nail down the perfect topic
8:33
for a lead magnet. Okay, so number one,
8:35
where is the best place to start the
8:37
conversation? Number two, what is the number one
8:39
question you get asked all the time? Think
8:42
about it. What do people ask you about?
8:44
Number three, what topic do you feel like
8:46
you could talk about for hours on end?
8:48
Like you're excited to talk about it and
8:50
you have a lot of knowledge to share.
8:52
Number four, this is such a good question.
8:55
What should your ideal customer avatar
8:57
be asking you that they are
8:59
not asking you yet? So if
9:02
you do a little research and kind of figure
9:04
out where they are in their journey right now,
9:06
whatever the topic is, what
9:08
questions should they be asking that
9:10
they don't know to ask? Here's
9:12
another one. What is your ideal
9:15
customer avatar most afraid of? What
9:17
are they afraid of admitting? What
9:19
are they afraid of addressing? What
9:21
are they afraid of happening? Maybe
9:24
you meet them there. Number six, what
9:26
could help your ideal customer right
9:28
this minute? That's another thing. We're
9:30
going for a quick win, an
9:32
immediate boost of results,
9:35
not big results, but a quick
9:37
win. So what could help them
9:39
right now? Number seven, what
9:41
is something your ICA isn't expecting from you
9:43
yet if you offered it for free, it
9:45
would knock their socks off. They're like, whoa,
9:48
I didn't even know I needed this, but
9:50
you know me well. Great. I
9:52
wasn't expecting you to send me this. Number
9:55
eight, how can you get your ICA
9:57
unstuck or out of overwhelm such as
9:59
this? a good one. Number nine, what
10:01
are your ICA's biggest pain points and
10:03
or desires? What would help ease their
10:05
pain or help fulfill a desire? Now
10:07
we're going for a quick win. So
10:09
we're not going deep down a rabbit
10:11
hole and you're solving all their problems
10:13
around a specific topic, quick win so
10:15
that they say, whoa, that's so good.
10:17
What else you got? And that's where
10:19
down the road, you're like, well, I
10:21
have a course or a membership or
10:23
a coaching program or whatever it might
10:26
be. Okay. And then number
10:28
10, what does your
10:30
ICA need to understand, be aware
10:32
of, or believe in
10:35
order to want or need your program, product
10:37
or service? This is what I call the
10:39
golden question. So I'm going to repeat it
10:42
one more time. Are you ready? What
10:45
does my ideal customer
10:47
avatar need to understand,
10:50
be aware of, or
10:53
believe in order
10:55
to eventually want or
10:57
need my program, product or service? So
10:59
before they ever buy from you, what
11:01
do they need to understand, be aware
11:03
of, or believe? This one
11:06
is a big one and it
11:08
really examines your end game. And
11:10
I get it. You might not be
11:12
ready to sell anything yet. Maybe
11:15
you're just nurturing your audience, growing your audience,
11:17
growing your email list right now, which
11:20
is a brilliant move by the way,
11:22
you can start growing your email list
11:24
before you have anything to sell. Actually,
11:26
it takes a lot of pressure off
11:28
you and you're just giving, giving in
11:30
service. So it's a beautiful thing if
11:32
you have that luxury to not have
11:35
to make money right now. But on
11:37
the flip side, perhaps you're already thinking
11:39
about what you eventually want to create
11:41
or sell. And so that golden question
11:43
is really helpful. Or perhaps you're already
11:45
in the game, you're actively promoting a
11:47
course, a membership, some kind of coaching
11:49
package. So asking that golden question, what
11:51
did they need to understand, be aware
11:54
of, or believe before they're ever ready
11:56
to buy from me essentially is the
11:58
question, then by all means. means if
12:00
you can answer that question, that is
12:02
your freebie. So wherever
12:04
you find yourself, it's essential to think
12:06
about what you're offering or planning to
12:08
offer in the future when you're crafting
12:10
your lead magnet. Your content should
12:12
seamlessly fit with whatever you've got
12:14
in the pipeline and sets the
12:17
stage for your offerings ahead. So
12:19
just keep that in mind as
12:21
you go through those questions. And
12:23
by the way, feel free to pause this episode
12:25
right here so that you can take some time
12:27
to answer the questions before moving on, I will
12:30
put them into the show notes.
12:32
So Amy porterfield.com/690. I will list
12:35
all 10 questions in my show
12:37
notes, copy paste, put them in
12:39
a Google Doc, answer those questions,
12:42
it will make a
12:44
difference. So Amy porterfield.com/690.
12:47
Next, I'm going to walk you through several
12:50
different types of lead magnets. So you can
12:52
start thinking about the format of what you're
12:54
going to create. Because I want to talk
12:56
about the difference between the lead magnet
12:59
itself, the topic, what you're teaching,
13:01
and then the format, the type
13:03
that you are going to create.
13:05
And those are different. The topic
13:08
and the type are different
13:10
entities to think about. How about that? I
13:12
actually have a podcast episode that goes really
13:15
in depth on this. So you can feel
13:17
free to listen to it at some extra
13:19
time that you have some extra support if
13:21
you want it. It's called the Ultimate Guide
13:23
to Choosing the Right Lead Magnet for Your
13:25
Audience. And it's an oldie but a goodie
13:28
and still totally stands. So it's episode
13:30
214. So anytime
13:33
I give you a number of
13:35
an episode, just put Amy porterfield.com
13:37
in front of it. So Amy
13:39
porterfield.com/214. I'll link to it
13:41
in the show notes as well. But
13:43
that is a really in depth episode.
13:45
Again, the Ultimate Guide to Choosing the
13:47
Right Lead Magnet for Your Audience. But
13:49
for now, I'm going to run you
13:52
through the most common types of lead
13:54
magnets that you can create. So you
13:56
have an overview. So again, these are
13:58
types, which would be related to
14:00
the format, the content you put
14:02
in it, and the topic are
14:04
different. It's a different conversation. So here we
14:06
go. The first one is
14:08
a cheat sheet. And let
14:10
me tell you, these are my absolute favorites.
14:12
I'm all about them because I love a
14:14
good cheat sheet. So if you've been tuning
14:17
into my podcast, chances are you've snagged one
14:19
from me before. And a cheat sheet
14:21
is essentially a jam-packed series
14:23
of pages loaded with steps and
14:25
examples and plenty of visuals to
14:27
really drive home a strategy. And
14:30
what makes cheat sheets so fantastic
14:32
is how easily digestible they are.
14:34
I mean, nobody wants to spend
14:37
weeks plowing through a lead magnet.
14:40
And that's the beauty of a cheat sheet, like short and
14:42
sweet. Tell me what I need to do. Give me the
14:44
step by step. I'll do it. So remember,
14:47
quick wins are where it's at. Keep
14:49
it simple and keep it valuable. Now
14:52
moving on to the second lead
14:54
magnet option, workbooks. These provide
14:56
both information and actionable steps for
14:58
your potential clients or students to
15:00
roll up their sleeves and dive
15:02
in. Workbooks are
15:05
brilliant because they not only deliver
15:07
your content, but also empower your
15:09
audience to take meaningful action. They
15:12
typically feature interactive elements like fill
15:14
in the blanks and guided exercises,
15:16
which are great because it helps
15:18
your audience achieve a specific goal
15:20
or solve a certain problem.
15:23
And that's gold right there, right? It's
15:25
definitely important to note that crafting a workbook
15:27
requires a bit more time and effort. And
15:29
we're not talking about a 20 page
15:32
workbook. I want three to
15:34
10 pages max, nothing more
15:36
than that. Because if somebody opens
15:38
up one of your freebies and it's like 20, 30,
15:40
40 pages, they're going to
15:43
tell themselves they do not have time for this
15:45
right now and they will never come back to
15:47
it. It's free, which means it
15:49
has a lower perceived value. We need to
15:51
be honest about that. When you
15:54
pay for something, it has a higher perceived
15:56
value. So this is free and now it's
15:58
40 pages and I have a busy. and
16:00
there's too much for me. And people want
16:02
to get from point A to point B, whether
16:04
it be a challenge or desire, as fast as
16:06
humanly possible. So no matter what
16:09
type of lead magnet you choose, keep
16:11
it short, sweet, and to the point.
16:14
Now next up is a guide.
16:16
Now the beauty of a guide is the
16:18
fact that you can get in depth here,
16:21
but you don't need to give so
16:23
much information that it overloads, which I
16:25
just talked about. Now, how is a
16:27
guide different than a workbook? Well,
16:30
a workbook is more
16:32
so like answering questions and
16:34
giving prompts and it's interactive.
16:37
A guide is just
16:39
what you're thinking about, like a tour
16:41
guide. It's showing them the way. So
16:43
when you create a guide, it's like,
16:45
you're doing this first, then you're doing
16:47
that next, and then you're doing this.
16:49
And then you can give detail like
16:51
how to do this step. So usually
16:54
a guide is more step by step
16:56
or more of a roadmap. And you
16:58
have an end destination. So we're starting
17:01
here, we're ending here. Here's your guide
17:03
on how to get there. So
17:05
use it in that way in terms
17:07
of a roadmap. And that's how it's
17:09
different than a workbook, but it can
17:11
be just as valuable. All
17:13
right, let's talk about lead
17:15
magnet four, which is video
17:18
or audio. So in
17:20
this option, you're giving your audience a chance
17:22
to dive into your content, either through watching
17:24
a video or tuning into an
17:26
audio. And usually these are mini trainings.
17:28
That's kind of like how they're set
17:30
up. Now, what I love about video
17:33
and audio is that they add an
17:35
extra layer of personality and connection. They
17:37
get to see the real deal. Like
17:40
they're seeing your personality, they're seeing how
17:42
you teach, how you show up, they're
17:44
seeing the person behind the content, and
17:47
really just your overall vibe. And
17:49
that's something you cannot get from
17:52
a PDF. And so the level
17:54
of connection is absolutely higher, but
17:56
also it's more work, right? And
17:59
so one drop. back to video or audio.
18:01
If you don't feel good on video, don't do
18:03
this one. Don't be ambitious and push yourself. If
18:05
you don't feel good on video, it's going to
18:07
show. So let's just kind of work on getting
18:09
more comfortable on video. And in the meantime, do
18:11
a different kind of lead magnet. But
18:13
I will tell you, audio is really cool. I
18:16
have a few of my peers that they've done
18:18
just, it's kind of like
18:20
a mini podcast, but it's a private
18:22
mini podcast that only you get if
18:24
you sign up for it. And
18:27
also if you are in the wellness space,
18:29
if you do any kind of guided meditation,
18:31
absolutely do an audio. But I could think
18:33
of like 10 different audios I could do
18:36
and I teach online marketing. So I feel
18:38
like there's a lot of option here, but
18:41
only do the video if you feel comfortable
18:43
on video and you can do it quickly.
18:45
Lead magnets should not take you weeks and
18:47
weeks to create. They should take you like
18:49
two to three days max. So
18:51
just don't overdo it here. Okay,
18:53
next up, lead magnet number
18:55
five, this is way more advanced,
18:57
but it's a challenge. So like
18:59
a free challenge. So you're inviting
19:02
your audience to do something specific
19:04
every single day for let's say
19:06
five days or seven
19:08
days. But here's the kicker. A challenge
19:10
isn't just about doing something for the
19:12
sake of it. It's about sparking real
19:14
change, whether that's in how your ideal
19:17
customer avatar thinks, how they feel, how
19:19
they show up or the results that
19:21
they want to see in their business
19:23
or in their life. I'll
19:26
be honest, challenges are a
19:28
powerhouse list builder. They
19:30
can really get the right people
19:33
into your audience, but they
19:35
are a lot of work. And
19:38
you've got to think about like, if you've ever been
19:40
in a challenge, you have to ask yourself, do I
19:42
want to do a private Facebook group? I don't think
19:44
so. I wouldn't go that route. I would
19:46
do an email challenge and I've seen
19:48
my friends do this. Rachel Cruz, I loved
19:50
one of the challenges she did. So let
19:53
me set the stage real fast to give
19:55
you an example. So Rachel, I
19:57
don't know if she still has it, but she used to
19:59
have this challenge. where you
20:01
can find hidden money in your life. I'm
20:03
making this up because I don't remember the
20:05
details, but here's the concept. It was like
20:07
five days of finding hidden money in
20:10
your life. And so
20:12
essentially every day you sign up for
20:14
it and every day you would get
20:16
an email from Rachel and she would
20:18
say, okay, here's your challenge today. And
20:22
one of the challenges might be I want you to
20:24
go through your last three credit
20:26
cards, have a highlighter,
20:29
and I want you to highlight
20:31
every expense that might be
20:33
for a tool, software,
20:35
a subscription that you are
20:37
no longer using. You're
20:40
staying signed up because maybe one day you'll use it
20:42
or you might need it and you
20:44
don't want to lose it, but it's sucking money
20:46
from you. And so what if
20:49
you found two or three subscriptions that
20:51
you're no longer using? That could be
20:53
a hundred dollars every month that
20:55
you start saving. It was things like that.
20:57
So she would give you just a really
20:59
simple, easy challenge, but it would be emailed
21:01
for five days straight. And then at the
21:04
end of the challenge, maybe on day six,
21:06
she might pitch her book or
21:08
community she has or encourage you to
21:10
go start listening to her podcast or
21:12
something like that. And
21:14
so I love a good challenge in that way,
21:16
but I would just keep it email only. And
21:19
of course you would advertise it on social.
21:22
You could run ads to the challenge, but
21:24
it's not like a typical challenge where people
21:26
get into a Facebook group and every day
21:28
you're live. That's not sustainable
21:30
for list building. And that
21:33
might be great if you add it to a
21:35
promo, but I'm not talking about that kind of
21:37
production. Okay. Lead magnet
21:39
number six, a quiz. And here's the
21:41
deal. The beauty of a quiz lies
21:43
in the insights you gain about your
21:45
audience. So a quiz is as
21:47
much for you as it is for
21:50
your audience. You get just as much value as they're
21:52
going to get. And that's the only lead magnet where
21:54
I think that is true. So
21:56
basically someone signs up for your quiz.
21:58
They answer your question. and then to
22:00
get their results, they need to give you their name and
22:03
email. Now, what's so cool about
22:05
this is once you get their name and
22:07
email, you can email them their results and
22:10
at the end of telling them about their results, you
22:12
can give a call to action. Now
22:14
that you know your results, go listen to this
22:16
podcast because it will relate to you or if
22:18
you have a book you
22:20
want to sell or even a course, you could say,
22:22
if you want to dive into
22:24
this even more, I've got a course all
22:26
about XYZ. So I really like the call
22:28
to action you can do on the results
22:30
quiz page after somebody opts in. And
22:33
the reason why quizzes are so powerful
22:35
is they just answered a bunch of
22:37
questions. So now you're learning about your
22:39
audience because on the back end, you
22:42
can analyze all the data you collected.
22:44
And also the reason why quizzes are
22:46
so cool is that people love to
22:48
learn about themselves. We are all into
22:50
ourselves, right? So tell me about me.
22:53
What do you know about me?
22:55
What does this say about me, me, me? That
22:57
is very just human nature. So quizzes
22:59
work like gangbusters. I
23:02
have an entire podcast about how to
23:04
create a quiz. I will link to it in
23:06
the show notes. You will get that and
23:09
you can create a quiz on your own.
23:11
Definitely more advanced than a cheat sheet guide
23:13
or a workbook, but really
23:15
powerful. So my last
23:17
lead magnet that I want to talk
23:19
about is a free course. Now,
23:22
when I mentioned a free course, I want you
23:24
to shift gears just a bit. This isn't the
23:26
kind of course that I walk you through in
23:28
digital course Academy. Instead, think of it like a
23:31
sneak peek into what you might offer for a fee
23:33
later on. So we're talking
23:36
mini course, okay? Or like a workshop
23:39
course, something that I teach my students
23:41
how to do. A workshop course would
23:43
be like a one hour
23:46
course on a very specific topic and
23:48
you can record it and then give
23:51
that away for free. Or like a
23:53
mini course might have two or three
23:55
modules max, really not more
23:57
than that. So you're just kind of...
24:00
Getting them started there dipping their toe
24:02
in the water around the topic giving
24:04
your audience maybe a few moments
24:07
of new insight but you're not like
24:09
rocking the world and changing their perspective
24:11
like in a huge way or getting
24:13
them huge results that's what your course
24:15
is when you go to digital course
24:17
academy and i teach you how to
24:19
build out that full blown course that's
24:21
not what we're talking about. However
24:23
a little mini course my
24:25
good friend karen crabtree she
24:27
has a course on weight
24:30
loss and essentially you're signing
24:32
up for this course but
24:34
you can get through it really
24:36
quickly and then she'll invite you into
24:38
her membership which i love that model i think it's
24:40
so smart i think she used to do it that
24:42
way i think she's still doing it that way as
24:44
well. Okay, so
24:47
i just gave you seven ideas
24:49
for the type of
24:51
course that you can create and
24:55
you can't go wrong with any of them, but
24:57
if you're just starting out you're going to choose
24:59
something a little simpler. And if
25:01
you want to be more advanced a little bit
25:03
more in depth so like the
25:05
simple ones cheat sheet workbook guide
25:08
a little bit more advanced video
25:10
and audio. Definitely
25:12
more advanced challenge quiz or free course and
25:14
by advanced they're just going to take you
25:16
a little longer to create and you got
25:18
to jump through a few more hoops to
25:20
make them work, these are just seven ideas
25:22
to get you started and there are plenty
25:24
more out there to explore it start
25:26
signing up for people's lead magnets see how
25:29
they do what their options. So if you're
25:31
going to be offering maybe that will spark
25:33
some inspiration for you as well remember a
25:35
lead magnet is any free value you give
25:37
to your audience in exchange for their email
25:39
address so your lead magnet could be a
25:41
template. Oh
25:43
i've got to tell you about two of
25:46
my students Katie codwell and Alyssa Jenkins they're
25:48
realtors and their podcasters and their educators because
25:50
they have a course but listen to this.
25:53
They decided on their podcast they were going
25:56
to give away a template as a lead
25:58
magnet that they use in their. own
26:00
business of real estate. So
26:02
on their podcast, they're like, hey guys, we use this
26:04
really cool template we created on our own and it's
26:06
really changed the game for us in this way or
26:09
that way, but we're going to give it away for
26:11
free. All you need to do is give your name
26:13
and email and it's yours. Well this
26:15
template was so popular with their audience that
26:17
the audience is like, do you have more
26:19
templates like that? Like what else are you
26:22
using to grow your book of business for
26:24
real estate? Like what other templates do you
26:26
have? Which gave them the idea,
26:28
wait a second. We might have
26:30
a course in us. So they joined Digital
26:32
Course Academy, learned how to create and launch
26:34
a course and they took all of the
26:36
templates they personally use in their business and
26:38
they use them inside of a course. So
26:41
the course was primarily different templates, but
26:43
the videos were how to use the
26:45
templates and people paid for this course,
26:47
of course, and in two years
26:49
they made a million dollars. I
26:52
know you're focused on marketing and selling
26:54
your digital products, but I know many
26:56
of you also have physical products and
26:58
I want to talk about Shopify. Shopify
27:02
is a user friendly commerce platform
27:05
that helps you, my dear online
27:07
entrepreneur, build an online store
27:09
and make more sales at any stage of
27:11
your business. They're the force
27:14
behind Allbirds, Rothy's, Brooklyn and
27:16
millions of other businesses at
27:18
every size. Let me
27:20
tell you why Shopify is an
27:22
online entrepreneur's dream platform. It's because
27:25
it helps turn your browsers into
27:27
buyers with the internet's best converting
27:29
checkout experience. In fact, it converts
27:31
36% better compared to other
27:33
leading e-commerce platforms. Yeah,
27:35
loving that. And I don't
27:38
know about you, but as an online
27:40
entrepreneur, my customer's experience, especially when it
27:42
comes to checking out is so important.
27:45
Plus, not only do they support your
27:47
customers, they support you as the entrepreneur.
27:50
Shopify's award winning help desk is there
27:52
to support your success through every question and
27:54
every step of the way. There's
27:56
a reason Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce.
28:00
commerce in the US because
28:02
businesses that grow, grow with
28:04
Shopify. Sign up for a $1 per
28:06
month trial period at
28:09
shopify.com/made easy, all
28:11
lowercase. So go to
28:14
shopify.com/made easy. Now
28:16
to grow your business, no
28:19
matter what stage you're in,
28:21
that shopify.com/made easy. We
28:25
are online marketers, which means we
28:27
have unique needs. And
28:29
there are so many options out there
28:31
for paid media. Sometimes it's hard to
28:33
figure out where should you go to
28:35
reach your ideal audience? But here's the
28:37
thing. Have you thought about LinkedIn Have
28:40
you thought about LinkedIn ads?
28:43
LinkedIn ads empowers marketers with solutions
28:45
for you and your customers, and
28:47
it allows you to build the
28:50
right relationships and drive results and
28:52
reach your customers with meaningful content.
28:54
You do not want to sleep
28:57
on LinkedIn ads. And here's the
28:59
thing, 79% of content marketers said
29:03
LinkedIn produces the best results for
29:05
paid media. I hear it from
29:07
so many of my peers. And
29:09
I know you're doing important work. And
29:12
with that, you want to make sure that
29:14
the work you're doing is getting in front
29:16
of the right people. And that's what LinkedIn
29:19
ads will allow you to do. So let your marketing efforts connect
29:21
with the right audience and get a $100
29:21
So let your marketing efforts connect with the
29:23
right audience and get a $100 credit on
29:27
your next campaign. So if
29:29
you go to linkedin.com/Amy, you can get
29:32
that $100 credit. So
29:35
that's linkedin.com/Amy, terms
29:38
and conditions apply. So
29:43
you never know your lead magnet. If it
29:45
pops off, if it does really well, then
29:48
my friend, you might have a course
29:50
in you where you elaborate and obviously
29:52
go a whole lot deeper, but just
29:54
pay attention to what works for you.
29:56
Okay. So you're
29:59
armed with some ideas. of the
30:01
topic your lead magnet could be about, answering
30:03
those 10 questions that I'm gonna put in
30:05
the show notes. And now you know there's
30:07
different formats or types of lead magnets you
30:10
can create. So let's talk about a few
30:12
different strategies that you can keep in mind
30:14
when you go to create them. The
30:17
first thing to remember is how you
30:19
name your lead magnet and this can
30:21
make or break its success. You want
30:24
the title of your lead magnet to
30:26
spark curiosity, pull people in with what
30:28
they're going to take away from it and
30:31
it needs to explain what it is they're
30:33
going to get. So let's not do cutesy
30:35
names that make no sense. So
30:37
here are a few approaches to consider. First,
30:40
we have the how to approach.
30:42
It's simple, it's direct, it tells
30:45
your audience exactly what they'll learn.
30:47
So for instance, how to design
30:49
stunning graphics for your brand leaves
30:51
no room for guesswork. I'm all
30:54
about a title that leaves no
30:56
room for guesswork. And
30:58
then there's the how I angle.
31:00
This adds a personal touch, drawing
31:02
on your own personal experiences to
31:04
connect with your audience. So picture
31:07
something like how I negotiated a
31:09
raise and doubled my income. It's
31:11
real, it's relatable, and it sure
31:13
piques some interest, right? And
31:16
then next we've got the intriguing
31:18
question technique. This one's all about
31:21
tapping into your audience's curiosity and
31:23
addressing their pain points head on.
31:25
So for instance, how secure is
31:28
your online business from cyber threats?
31:31
It's a question that definitely
31:33
gets your attention while also
31:35
offering the promise of valuable
31:37
insights. So these are
31:39
just a few idea starters, but
31:41
of course, chat GPT. Come
31:44
up with the title, ask chat GPT
31:46
to give you 10 better ideas that
31:49
pique your curiosity and engage your audience
31:51
and gets them to want to dive
31:53
in deeper, however you want to write
31:55
that prompt, but come up with one
31:58
idea and then use chat GPT. And
32:00
then when it comes to writing the copy for
32:02
your lead magnet or the script if you're doing
32:04
a video I recommend keeping
32:06
it concise and scannable. So people
32:09
have short attention spans Especially
32:11
when something is free. So
32:14
you want it to be easy to digest and If
32:18
you're doing like long form
32:20
like a guide still easy
32:23
to digest So use bullet
32:25
points sub headings short paragraphs to
32:27
break up the text and make
32:29
it easy to read use Images
32:33
things like that go a long way and you
32:35
can use canvas So if you're using a PDF
32:37
get into Canva find a PDF template I'm a
32:39
big fan of never ever starting from scratch Get
32:42
a PDF template and build your content into
32:45
that so it will look really good and
32:48
then of course you can use chat and
32:50
GPT to come up with the Content that
32:52
you're putting into these lead magnets and
32:55
writing the copy to talk about your
32:57
lead magnets But we're not using chat
32:59
GPT as the end-all be-all, right? It's
33:01
very obvious You're just going to blend
33:03
in with the online noise this content
33:05
needs to come from you It has
33:07
to be good and it
33:09
has to be relatable and that means
33:11
chat GPT can be a guide or
33:13
a starter Like a Kickstarter, but it
33:15
is not the end-all be-all promise people
33:18
will know I promise you and also
33:21
When you're writing the copy to talk about
33:23
your lead magnet and when you're writing the
33:25
copy that's in your lead magnet You want
33:28
to use language that speaks directly to your
33:30
ideal customer avatar? Now this
33:32
is easier than it sounds I promise but
33:34
you need to do a little homework in
33:36
order to nail this So if
33:39
you want to write copy that truly resonates
33:41
with your ICA at a high level you
33:43
have to know them You
33:46
have to know them like they're your best friend You
33:48
have to understand their pain points their desires.
33:51
What makes them tick? I was given a
33:53
compliment the other day I was
33:55
speaking on a panel for podcasters
33:59
and a woman that that secures my ads
34:01
for my podcast. She said, Amy,
34:04
you know your audience so well,
34:07
which means that you're very careful about what
34:09
ads you'll run on your podcast because you
34:11
know if your audience will resonate or not.
34:13
How do you know your audience so well?
34:15
First, I thought that was a huge compliment,
34:17
like one of the best I can get.
34:20
But two, it's because I ask
34:22
a lot of questions and I try to
34:24
read between the lines and I pay attention
34:26
to when they complain or when they are
34:28
frustrated or when they come to me and
34:30
say, I just need extra help. I'm very,
34:32
very aware of what is stopping them in
34:35
their tracks. But this has been years and
34:37
years of paying attention. So as long as
34:39
you start paying attention now, over time, it
34:41
does get easier that you feel like you
34:43
know your audience so well. It also helps
34:45
that I was my audience. So for those
34:47
of you who are just starting out, I
34:50
remember like it was yesterday, my first few
34:52
years of business, and it was hard.
34:54
I was gonna say it was bad. I don't
34:56
think that's the right word. It was tough though.
34:59
And so I remember the feelings, the emotions,
35:01
all of it. So that helps me know
35:03
my audience well. That's not true for everyone
35:06
listening right now. You might not be your
35:08
avatar, your avatar but years ahead. One
35:11
of my course creators, he is
35:13
a man that helps women
35:15
going through menopause with their
35:17
workouts. He's never been one
35:20
of his ideal customer avatars. So that's
35:22
a little bit different for him. So
35:24
it's not right or wrong. It's
35:26
just an advantage when you have been. Okay,
35:29
so you gotta know your audience and
35:32
you've gotta spend the time to really get
35:34
to understand who they are. And
35:36
you don't need to be a professional writer of
35:38
getting back to writing the copy for your lead
35:40
magnet, writing the marketing copy to promote it. We're
35:43
not looking for professional copywriters here,
35:45
right? Just use your knowledge and
35:47
your insight about who this audience
35:49
is. Use the language they're using
35:52
when they're talking about their problem or
35:54
desire, and then use chat GPT as
35:56
well. I actually have a whole
35:58
episode about this. It's called chat GPT. AI
36:00
and how to use it in your marketing. And
36:02
it's with a woman that used to run all
36:04
my ads before I brought it in house. Her
36:07
name's Emily Hirsch and you can find that episode
36:09
at 572. So
36:11
you know what to do, Amy porterfield.com/572.
36:15
Of course, I will link to it in the show notes. Okay,
36:18
next up is designing your lead magnet.
36:20
This is another area where my students
36:22
tend to get stuck because they think
36:24
they have to be a graphic designer
36:26
to create something that's visually enticing. And
36:28
let me tell you my friend, that
36:30
is not true. So just
36:32
get that out of your head right now
36:34
because there are so many resources. And
36:37
I know I'm going to sound old
36:39
when I say this, but when I
36:41
first started, there were not nearly as
36:43
many design resources as there are now.
36:45
So I feel like you have no
36:48
excuse in this area. So I've got
36:50
a few of my favorite. I'm going
36:52
to link to the websites in my
36:54
show notes for a quick reference that
36:56
I really love. But obviously we all
36:58
know Canva, right? Canva is great. It's
37:00
user friendly. It has templates for every
37:03
type of lead magnet under the sun.
37:05
It's literally plug and play. The
37:07
icing on the cake is that it's completely
37:09
free to use and has an option to
37:12
upgrade for even more features. So
37:14
that's great. So Canva for
37:16
PDF guide workbook. Now,
37:18
let's say you're doing video based
37:20
lead magnet. Well, there's this tool
37:22
called VideoAsk and it's a platform
37:24
that makes it really easy for
37:27
you to create video that grabs
37:29
attention and encourages your ICA to
37:31
take action. I've used it
37:33
in my business, something you can check
37:35
out. But obviously you don't need VideoAsk
37:37
to just make a video lead magnet,
37:39
right? Get your iPhone, record it on
37:41
your iPhone and then you can put
37:43
it on just a web page on
37:45
your website as well. But VideoAsk, you
37:48
can use it for many things. Very
37:50
cool. And then for
37:52
high quality imagery, I love
37:55
Unsplash and I love
37:57
Social Curator. So Social Curator
37:59
is a... membership, but every single month
38:01
you get images that you can use
38:03
in slide decks for webinars for trainings.
38:05
You can use them throughout all your
38:07
lead manuals. You can use them on
38:09
social media. You can use them on
38:11
your website. So, Upsplash is
38:14
great for images, but Social
38:16
Curator is my absolute favorite resource
38:18
for images. We use it
38:20
every single month. So, if you've
38:22
ever been on a webinar, all
38:25
the images you see that aren't me or
38:27
my team, they're from Social Curator just for
38:30
the record. Now, if you're
38:33
simply not feeling up to designing
38:35
something yourself, I get it. That's
38:37
okay. So, you could use Fiverr
38:40
or 99designs. I've got to tell
38:42
you, this is so wild. So, there's
38:44
this guy that I use on
38:46
99designs and I have
38:49
used him to create some
38:51
of our PDFs because we do
38:54
hundreds of PDFs inside my courses.
38:56
So, we design a template with
38:58
my designer and then we give
39:01
it to my 99designs
39:03
designer and he takes all my content
39:05
and formats it into my template that
39:07
I've created. But we're talking tons of
39:09
templates. So, we needed a resource. I've
39:12
been using him for at least
39:14
10 years. We give him
39:16
Christmas presents. He has been in my world
39:18
forever and it used to just be me
39:20
and him. And then now I
39:23
haven't talked to him for years except just
39:25
to thank him and wish him a happy
39:27
holiday when we give out gifts. But it's
39:29
my team who now talks to him on
39:31
a regular basis. But 10 years, the same
39:34
guy from 99designs that I found just randomly.
39:36
So, that makes me really happy. I love when
39:39
we can have a contractor that we keep in
39:41
the fold for a long time. So, anyway, those
39:43
are some of my favorite tools to use. On
39:45
my website, I've got this resources tab that you
39:47
can find more resources that I absolutely love. But
39:50
I'll make sure to link these in the show
39:52
notes as well. Okay, so
39:54
once you have your lead magnet created, the
39:56
next step is to create your landing page
39:58
and your thank you pages.
40:01
So you need a page where you talk about
40:03
your lead magnet and then people give you their
40:05
name and email and exchange and then you need
40:07
a page where they land to say, all
40:10
right, this went through. Yay. That sounds really
40:12
weird, but go check your email, you know,
40:14
just a thank you page. So we're going
40:16
to keep these really simple. And
40:19
the way I look at your landing page
40:21
is like the front door to your lead
40:23
magnet. It's where your visitors land after clicking
40:25
on, let's say an ad or a link
40:27
on social media. And it's where they're going
40:29
to decide whether to opt in and give
40:32
you their email address or not. So
40:35
you want to make this great. And then, of
40:37
course, the thank you page is where the magic
40:39
happens after someone opts in on your landing page.
40:41
It's your chance to confirm that they're
40:44
often went through because oftentimes, you know, when you
40:46
sign up for something and then nothing happens and
40:48
you're like, did that go through? Did they get
40:50
my email? And so I think
40:52
it's important that they land somewhere. You tell
40:55
them it went through, express your gratitude for
40:57
them signing up and guide them on their
40:59
next steps, which typically is go check your
41:01
email. Now here's where the question always comes
41:04
up. Amy, can't I just deliver the freebie
41:06
on the thank you page? Can't I link
41:08
to the PDF or play the video that
41:10
I promised them? And my answer
41:12
is don't do that. I don't think it's
41:14
a good idea. We want to get our
41:17
audience in the habit of
41:19
opening up our emails, trusting that
41:21
what's on the other side of
41:23
that email is something valuable. And
41:25
if you do this enough, when
41:27
you sell, they're more likely to see your
41:29
email, open it up and engage with it. So
41:31
we do need to get them into the
41:34
habit of trusting that our emails are valuable,
41:36
starting with your lead magnet. Now
41:38
for both pages, you need to make
41:40
sure your messaging is crystal clear and
41:42
your design is sleek and just simple
41:44
to capture the attention of your ideal
41:46
customers. Now there are a few
41:49
questions that you can ask yourself to
41:51
ensure that this happens. Number one, is
41:53
your offer and your call to action crystal clear
41:55
on that opt-in page? You want your visitors to
41:58
know exactly what you want to do. what
42:00
they're getting and what action to take.
42:03
Number two, are you speaking the language
42:05
of your ideal customer? Using their own
42:07
words helps create a connection. Number
42:10
three, does your opt-in form sit above
42:12
the fold? That means when I go
42:14
to the page that I
42:16
don't have to scroll before I see the
42:18
opportunity to give you my name and email
42:20
and click a button. That needs to be
42:22
above the fold, which is before they have
42:25
to scroll. That's important. And
42:27
when your lead magnet is above the
42:29
fold, it will increase the likelihood of
42:31
someone taking action and opting in. And
42:33
then finally, does your thank you page guide
42:36
them on what to do next? The goal
42:38
here is to gently nudge them towards their
42:40
inbox so they can snag your download. Some
42:42
people like to include like a one minute,
42:44
I wouldn't do it any longer than a
42:46
minute, video saying, hey, Amy Porterfield here, thanks
42:48
so much for signing up for the XYZ
42:50
cheat sheet. Oh my goodness, you're going to
42:53
love it. Don't skip page five, it's my
42:55
favorite tip I've ever given. So I need
42:57
you to check that out. So here's what
42:59
I want you to do next. Go jump
43:01
over to your email account, look for the
43:03
subject line XYZ and
43:05
click there and you can get instant access
43:07
to what I promised you. And then jump
43:09
on over to Instagram and tell me what
43:11
you thought about it or something like that.
43:13
So notice I did the little teaser about
43:15
page five. If you can hint to something
43:17
in that freebie, it will peak their curiosity
43:19
even more and they'll be more likely to
43:22
be like, I wonder what she's talking about.
43:24
I want to go check that out. But
43:26
we're talking a minute or less video if
43:28
you do include one. This
43:30
episode is brought to you by Better Help. If
43:33
you've been with me for a while, you
43:35
know that my mind isn't always my friend.
43:37
I often struggle with low level depression and
43:40
anxiety. One thing that's helped
43:42
me immensely is seeing a therapist.
43:45
I truly believe that as an entrepreneur, when
43:47
we take care of our mind, we show
43:49
up better for the work that we're doing
43:51
in the world, for our audience, for our
43:53
students and for our team. Whether
43:55
you're dealing with self doubt or just
43:57
looking to make your mind your friend.
44:00
therapy can be a great tool to have in
44:02
your toolkit. If you're thinking
44:04
of starting therapy, give BetterHelp a
44:06
try. It's entirely online, designed to
44:09
be convenient, flexible, and suited to
44:11
your schedule. Just fill out a
44:13
brief questionnaire to get matched with
44:15
a licensed therapist and you
44:17
can switch therapists anytime for no additional
44:20
charge. Visit betterhelp.com/Amy
44:22
podcast to get
44:25
10% off
44:27
your first month. That's BetterHelp,
44:30
help.com/Amy
44:32
podcast.
44:35
Now you might be thinking, okay, Amy, that
44:37
all sounds great, but what platform should I
44:39
use to create my landing page and my
44:41
thank you pages? Well, hands down,
44:43
one of my favorite that I've used
44:45
for years. I mean, probably
44:48
since the beginning of my business and if
44:50
they haven't been around for 15 years, the
44:52
minute they were created, I was using them,
44:55
but it's lead pages. So
44:57
this single tool has saved my
44:59
entire team literally hundreds of hours
45:01
and thousands of dollars per year
45:03
because it's just super easy to
45:05
use. If you're a one woman
45:07
or one man show, lead
45:10
pages. You can actually create
45:12
webinar pages, sales pages, any
45:15
kind of specific page using
45:17
lead pages. So Amy
45:20
porterfield.com/lead pages. I am
45:23
a proud partner. Tell
45:25
everybody about them. Amy
45:27
porterfield.com/ lead pages. I'll
45:29
also link to it in the show
45:31
notes. And then also I love ConvertKit.
45:34
I'm a big fan of ConvertKit as
45:36
an email service provider. So if you
45:38
don't yet have an email service provider,
45:41
use ConvertKit and they have templates for
45:43
often pages, thank you pages that come
45:45
with your membership. So ConvertKit, if you
45:48
don't have an email service provider, if
45:50
you do have an email service provider
45:52
and you just want really clean, cool
45:55
templates that are easy to use and
45:57
highly tested. Sometimes I don't like my
46:00
email service provider's pages because they don't
46:02
convert as well as lead pages. I
46:04
think ConvertKits do, but I
46:06
wouldn't trust many other email service provider
46:09
pages that you can use. Lead
46:11
pages, their pages are created
46:14
to convert. So the template
46:16
that you're going to use has already been battle
46:18
tested and proven to work, which is a big
46:20
deal. Okay, so
46:22
moving on, once you have your landing page
46:24
and thank you pages created, you've got to
46:27
choose your landing page URL. Keep
46:30
it simple. And something that
46:32
your audience will remember, something
46:35
like amiporterfield.com/more leads. Actually,
46:37
if you're anywhere near a computer right now,
46:39
if you can go to this, I don't
46:41
want to distract you too much, but I
46:43
want to show you something. And if you
46:45
can't go there now, just check this out
46:48
later. So if you go to amiporterfield.com/more leads,
46:50
if you go to this page, notice
46:52
that I don't have the navigation of
46:54
my website on this page.
46:57
This is a stand alone page. That's
46:59
what it's called. Now it's got amiporterfield.com.
47:01
So it's attached to my website, but
47:04
what you won't see is the about
47:06
page, the resources page, the courses page,
47:08
that you are podcast page that you'll
47:10
see on the navigation of my website
47:13
if you just went to amiporterfield.com. The
47:16
reason for that is I don't want to give you
47:18
any more options. I just want you to sign up
47:20
for this freebie. And so this
47:22
is a really great example of a
47:24
good headline. I have an image, first
47:27
name. I don't even ask for last
47:29
name, email. I do have texting optional
47:31
on there, but you don't need to
47:33
use it. This page is definitely more
47:35
elaborate than you need. If you go
47:37
to this page and you just use
47:39
the top part before you have to
47:41
scroll, that is enough. I'm
47:43
an overachiever, plus I teach this stuff.
47:45
So I go above and beyond. I've
47:47
got extra information. You do not need
47:49
all the extra information. But if you're
47:51
gonna add it, notice at the bottom
47:53
of amiporterfield.com/more leads, I have another option
47:55
to sign up for the same thing.
47:57
because it's so much information that I'm
48:00
just gonna give them one more time
48:02
to sign up if they've scrolled to
48:04
the bottom. Anyway, if you can't look
48:06
at that now, look at it later, I've got details for
48:08
you. Okay, so next you've
48:10
got to integrate everything with your email
48:12
service provider. Most platforms
48:14
offer handy templates that streamline this
48:17
process, like I mentioned, like ConvertKit.
48:19
So they're great because everything is
48:21
automatically integrated. Like if you use
48:24
ConvertKit pages, they're automatically integrated
48:26
with your email service provider and really
48:28
easy to set up in terms of
48:30
tech. But Leadpages is simple too, and
48:33
they've got a lot of how-to videos
48:35
to help you do that. Again,
48:37
if you haven't chosen an email
48:39
service provider, an ESP, I have
48:41
a podcast episode that walks you
48:44
through the entire process. It's episode 322,
48:47
how to build your email list from the ground
48:49
up. And I talk about choosing an email service
48:51
provider. So you know what to do, it's episode
48:53
322. I'll link
48:55
to it in the show notes. Dang, these show notes
48:57
are gonna be powerful, right? Now I'm
48:59
giving you a lot of resources, and
49:02
so I'm gonna give you one more right now, but just
49:04
go to the show notes, all of this will be in
49:06
there. But I've got this email list
49:08
starter guide, and
49:10
it walks you through setting up your
49:12
email list and setting up your lead
49:15
magnet. Like if you want a guide,
49:17
also if you just want to see
49:19
an example of a guide, it's amyporterfield.com/email
49:21
kickstart. So
49:24
amyporterfield.com/ email
49:26
kickstart. And I
49:28
know I just gave you a lot, but
49:30
I promise, I promise you got this. Okay,
49:33
let's all take a deep breath. I told you
49:35
this was a very meaty episode, right? Are you
49:37
still with me? We're almost through it, I promise.
49:40
The next step is one that you can't
49:42
afford to skip, and that's getting
49:44
peer review and feedback on your lead magnet,
49:47
on your landing page, and on your thank
49:49
you page. This is important. So
49:51
reach out to a trusted circle. Maybe
49:53
it's fellow business owners, clients
49:56
that you feel comfortable asking for
49:58
their feedback, or even just. friends
50:00
who understand your target audience, ask
50:03
them for their honest feedback. Believe
50:05
me, nothing undermines your credibility faster
50:07
than spelling mistakes or putting out
50:09
a lead magnet that's totally confusing
50:11
to people. I do a lot
50:13
of review of lead magnets, especially
50:15
for my list builder society students.
50:17
So I have a program called
50:19
list builder society that teaches everything
50:21
from start to finish to setting
50:23
up your email list, growing your
50:25
email list, lead magnets, growing your
50:27
audience, all that good stuff. And
50:29
we do a monthly live Q&A and a
50:31
lot of times I'll have an
50:33
opportunity to look at somebody's opt-in page and
50:36
I'll know instantly what's wrong with it. But
50:38
that person could have asked a few of
50:40
their peers and probably would have gotten the
50:42
same feedback as me. And so
50:45
asking your friends like, does this make sense?
50:47
Is this confusing? Is this a lot of
50:49
enough information or too much? Those blind spots
50:51
we might not see because we're too close
50:54
to it. Totally worth asking a friend. And
50:56
look, if you put your heart and soul into creating your
50:58
lead magnet, I won't lie. It doesn't feel great
51:01
if you get some negative feedback, but
51:03
just like anything in business, you can't take
51:05
it personally and we need that. And that
51:08
brings me to my next step, making
51:10
revisions. Think of this
51:12
like you're taking something that's already
51:14
great and just making it better.
51:16
So every tweak you make brings
51:18
you one step closer to a
51:20
lead magnet that's irresistible to your
51:22
audience. So don't be afraid to
51:24
get your hands dirty and refine
51:27
your content. And whenever you
51:29
come across a really good opt-in page, ask
51:31
yourself what drew you to it? Why are you
51:33
going to sign up for that lead magnet? What
51:36
works? And then go back to yours and say,
51:38
how can I tweak mine to get me
51:40
closer to one that actually converts like the
51:42
one that you just really loved? So
51:45
it doesn't have to be perfect, but
51:47
I'm always tinkering with my opt-in pages
51:49
and my thank you pages and all
51:51
that good stuff. So definitely I'm a
51:53
fan. All right, let's talk
51:55
about promoting your lead magnet. And
51:58
while I'm a big believer... that you
52:00
don't need a website to build an
52:03
email list successfully, having one is ideal
52:05
because it gives you a place to showcase
52:07
your lead magnet, although this is not the
52:10
only place. So if you do have
52:12
a website, I love a good pop-up
52:14
box and if you go to my website,
52:16
amyporterfield.com, you'll notice if you click around there
52:18
are pop-up boxes. Why do I do it?
52:20
Because it works. You may say they're annoying.
52:23
I do it because it works.
52:25
Just believe me and trust me on this
52:27
one. And I do them for a lot
52:29
of different things. I've grown my list by
52:31
thousands with my pop-up boxes. So
52:34
first you want to nail down the copy
52:36
for that pop-up box. You can use chatgbt
52:38
to help you, but we're just gonna keep
52:40
it simple. If you go to my website,
52:42
you can see how I do my pop-up
52:44
boxes. Just copy what I'm doing there because
52:46
it's working and you can do
52:48
it on your site as well. And
52:51
also I want to give you
52:53
two resources. If you're using Squarespace,
52:55
you're in luck. They've got built-in
52:57
pop-up features. Otherwise, I
52:59
love Pop-Up Ally. It's
53:02
got some seriously smart technology that
53:04
can turn those pop-ups from super
53:06
annoying to helpful in no time.
53:09
My friend, Natalie Lusier,
53:11
she invented Pop-Up Ally.
53:13
And what I
53:16
love about it is that she's a
53:19
super introvert. And so she doesn't
53:21
like a lot of
53:23
like in-your-face kind of marketing. So
53:26
she created pop-ups that feel more
53:28
subtle. And she's got
53:30
a lot of features and options. I just love
53:32
that. I know who created it and these pop-ups
53:34
feel like her in all the best ways. All
53:37
right, so if you're thinking, okay Amy, sounds great,
53:39
but I don't have a website. So hang on
53:42
because I'm going to talk about that in just
53:44
a minute. It's okay if you don't have a
53:46
website yet. I still have options for you. I'll
53:48
come back to that. But you've got everything set
53:50
up. You're almost ready to go. But there's
53:53
one final step before you launch
53:55
your lead magnet. And that's to
53:57
do some quality control tests. So
54:00
just like you did when you were creating
54:02
your lead magnet in your landing page and
54:04
your thank you page, you want to enlist
54:06
a friend and have them go through from
54:08
start to finish, which will take two minutes,
54:10
right? You want everything from
54:12
the initial pop-up on your website
54:14
to entering their name and email,
54:17
to receiving the lead magnet, you want
54:19
it all to be seamless. So if
54:21
you have pop-ups, you're gonna do this,
54:23
but also remember that stand alone option
54:25
page without your website navigation, you wanna
54:27
test that as well. So
54:30
this is important, that's really all you
54:32
need for promoting, you want to post
54:34
it on your social media, you can
54:36
make a reel about it, you can
54:38
do a link in bio, you can
54:41
talk about it on the live, that
54:43
URL is important, keep it simple so
54:45
that you can just rattle it off
54:47
in all different ways. And remember, this
54:49
isn't field of dreams, build it and
54:52
they will come. We're gonna
54:54
talk about our lead magnet every
54:56
opportunity we get. So
54:58
I remember the first day I met
55:00
Marie Forleo, who is a friend of
55:02
mine, and we were in a
55:04
hallway at a Frank Kern conference so many
55:06
years ago. I didn't know who she was
55:08
and she came up to me and I
55:10
was explaining some issue I was having in
55:12
my business and she's like, I know exactly
55:14
what you need. She ripped off a page
55:16
in her notebook, wrote down the URL of
55:18
her lead magnet and stuffed it in my
55:20
hand. She's like, go there. And
55:23
I have been in her mastermind, I
55:25
have purchased B-School, I have been her
55:27
number one affiliate for B-School. That
55:29
one exchange built a beautiful working
55:31
relationship with each other and
55:34
it all started with her lead magnet.
55:36
Just for the record, it works. Okay,
55:39
we're gonna promote that lead magnet. We're gonna
55:41
make an effort. And actually, remember that guide
55:44
I mentioned earlier? That guide
55:46
is seven specific places to
55:48
leverage your lead magnet, like different ways
55:50
to promote it. So I
55:53
want you to put this
55:55
in your back pocket, amyporterfield.com/more
55:57
leads. Put that in your back pocket.
56:00
because that is a resource that you can
56:02
get. You can sign up. It's a lead
56:04
magnet, but it's going to help you get
56:06
your lead magnet out there. So see how
56:08
I did that. But in
56:10
all seriousness, the guide will be incredibly helpful
56:13
in getting your lead magnet in the right
56:15
place and high traffic places specifically. And if
56:17
you're worried about getting eyeballs on your lead
56:20
magnet because you don't have a website or
56:22
you don't have a big audience, I'm telling
56:24
you, you don't need a website in
56:27
order for this to work. Social
56:29
media is going to be your go-to platform.
56:32
So yes, you need to use social. Yes,
56:34
we need to build our social following, but
56:36
without a website, social media is going to
56:39
be your best friend. That's where I would
56:41
spend time until you're ready to create a
56:43
website. And one of the things with social
56:45
media, the more you are engaged in your
56:48
own comments and in your own DMs, Jasmine
56:50
Starr always reminds me, there's a gold mine
56:52
there. So the more you get engaged
56:54
in all of that, the more
56:57
likely people are going to sign up for
56:59
your freebies. So something to think about. Okay,
57:01
holy heck. That was a jam packed episode,
57:04
but we have made it to the end.
57:06
And it's my hope that after listening to
57:08
this episode, you've taken some notes and you're
57:10
in a great place to start creating your
57:12
lead magnet. And look, one of the great
57:14
things about lead magnets is that you can
57:16
constantly optimize it. And you really do only
57:18
need one. Like you think you need to
57:20
create a bunch and you see me creating
57:22
a bunch, but let's just get one really
57:24
good one out there and talk about it
57:26
till you're sick of talking about it. That's
57:28
when you know that you should probably talk
57:30
about it a little bit more. Like we're
57:33
talking about these lead magnets a lot and
57:35
marketing 101, most people need to hear
57:37
five to 10 times the same thing before they
57:40
even take action. So get it out there, my
57:42
friend, and keep talking about it. So
57:44
there you have it. I think it's time
57:46
for you to get started creating your lead
57:48
magnet. And this might not happen overnight. And
57:50
you might even have to come back to
57:52
this episode a few times as
57:54
you're working on it. But I believe you can
57:57
get this set up in just a few days.
57:59
Don't overthink it. go for B
58:01
plus work, we're not looking for perfection.
58:04
And the things that we typically care about
58:06
and fuss over our audience doesn't care at
58:08
all. So just get really great content out
58:10
there. And over time you can
58:13
test a few different lead magnets and
58:15
see which one converts the best, but right now
58:17
let's just focus on one. And
58:19
I wanna be your accountability partner. So
58:21
once you get your lead magnet created,
58:24
I want you over at
58:26
Instagram, I'm just at emu.porterfield,
58:28
slide into my DMs and
58:30
link me to your lead magnet. I wanna see
58:32
your opt-in page. So come on over. I can't
58:34
promise I'll be able to respond to everyone because
58:37
I get a lot every day, but it will
58:39
keep you accountable. You're gonna say, I'm gonna show
58:41
Amy my opt-in page. I'm gonna get it done.
58:43
So there you have it. Thank you
58:45
so very much for tuning in. Whoo, this is
58:47
one of my longest episodes I ever made. I
58:50
wanna know what you think about it. Did you
58:52
make it to the end? Did you find it
58:54
valuable? That's another thing I want you to drop
58:56
into my DMs and let me know. All
58:58
right, my sweet friend. I love you to the moon
59:00
and back. I am so honored that I get to
59:02
serve you in this way and I will see you
59:04
again soon. Take care. Oh,
59:08
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
59:10
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I
59:26
wanted to tell you about a podcast
59:28
that I know will not only get
59:30
you motivated and inspired, but will actually
59:32
help you grow your brand, your audience
59:35
and your revenue. It's
59:37
a podcast from my very good
59:39
friend, Julie Solomon, and it's called the
59:41
influencer podcast, and it's
59:43
a part of the YAP Media
59:45
Network. So Julie is a bestselling
59:47
author and a brand expert, and
59:49
she's dedicated her entire career to
59:51
helping entrepreneurs and creators like you
59:54
tap into their next levels of visibility
59:56
and impact so you can become the
59:58
leader that you were born to be.
1:00:00
If you're looking for
1:00:02
actionable advice delivered directly to your
1:00:05
earbuds, then get ready for coaching,
1:00:07
interviews with some of the industry's
1:00:09
biggest names, and transformations to enrich
1:00:11
your personal brand and grow your
1:00:13
business. You can discover why
1:00:15
people all over the world have called
1:00:18
this podcast their go-to for
1:00:20
all things influence, impact, and brand
1:00:22
growth for more than six years.
1:00:25
Subscribe to the Influencer Podcast
1:00:27
with Julie Solomon today on
1:00:29
Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, or
1:00:32
your favorite podcast platform.
Podchaser is the ultimate destination for podcast data, search, and discovery. Learn More