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Well, hello everybody, it is me

0:15

Rosi o'donald, your host of Onward

0:18

with Rosi o'donald, and we have very

0:20

big news. This is our

0:23

last episode of the podcast.

0:26

Don't cry, it's okay, we'll

0:28

figure it out. We have been

0:30

doing it for a year, and I've really

0:33

enjoyed it. It's been really a

0:35

wonderful kind of experience

0:38

and experiment for me. You know, I

0:41

took a year and lived in Malibu and

0:43

then I was like, you know what, I'm going to try

0:46

to do a podcast for a year and see

0:49

where it goes, how it feels, and

0:51

how we do. And you know what we did

0:53

really well, and we got

0:55

so much feedback and so

0:58

many great responses. Is that,

1:01

you know, I've been thrilled with the process

1:04

of the whole thing. But here we

1:06

are a year in and I had a year

1:08

contract, and then you know,

1:10

we're done, and I think we're going to

1:12

take some time to figure out maybe a

1:14

different way to do a

1:17

podcast. You know what I really

1:19

miss about this format

1:22

is the live interaction of people

1:24

calling in.

1:25

You know, I just.

1:29

I wish it felt more vibrant,

1:31

you know, than a conversation. Now

1:34

I understand podcasts are different

1:36

than radio shows, and

1:39

we were at a kind of a

1:41

loss at the beginning. Laurie and I and here's

1:44

Lori East, I'd say hello, Laurie

1:47

has produced this with me, and when

1:49

we started, she and I were not really

1:52

podcast.

1:53

Listeners, never listening to one.

1:56

No, I think the only one I listened

1:58

to on any kind of regular basis during

2:00

the Trump administration, I

2:02

listened to Podsave America and I

2:05

really am grateful for that podcast

2:07

because they kept me sane during

2:10

a difficult time in the country

2:12

and a difficult time personally.

2:14

I think a lot of people wanted

2:17

to know what was going on and what was happening,

2:20

and they filled me in

2:22

in a manner that kept me kind of sane

2:25

and stable.

2:26

So I'm grateful to them.

2:27

But as far as doing my own, you

2:30

know, we were a little bit at a loss.

2:31

Behind the eight ball.

2:32

We were like, let's just try to do an interview

2:35

and see what happens, and that's

2:37

what we did. But the conversation,

2:40

the connection the thoughts of other people

2:42

in the midst of talking is

2:46

something that I want to explore, and so

2:48

we're talking to some people who are

2:51

interested in doing that. And before

2:53

you know it. We will be back

2:55

with something new and something

2:57

different and still

3:00

in the podcast genre, I

3:02

believe, but more of something live.

3:05

You know. Yeah, I think that

3:07

that would be that would be something

3:10

that I would invest in

3:13

in a different way. It's it's almost

3:15

like boxing, which I've never done, by

3:17

the way, but when I watch, you

3:20

know, when I think about

3:23

the live feeling of a live show,

3:25

whether it's you know, the UFC boxing,

3:27

whatever you sport, there's

3:30

there's interactions, there's

3:34

the audience, there's the interview where there's the

3:36

crowd, there's the the you

3:38

know, and and that is something that I miss

3:40

as a live performer. And

3:43

I love the voice memos, right, the

3:46

voice memos were great, But sometimes

3:49

I would say, one hundred percent of the time, I want

3:51

to talk to that person, you

3:53

know, I want to go, hey, where are you from?

3:56

What, what's your story? How's

3:58

your life, what's happening? What do you want to

4:00

talk about? And so we're going to

4:02

figure that out as we go along.

4:04

And there's lots of places you can still find

4:06

me. You can find me on TikTok at

4:08

Rosie YouTube live.

4:11

We're putting some of the shows up

4:13

there from way back thirty years

4:15

ago. Is it thirty years ago? I

4:17

think I believe it is. So

4:20

we'll keep you in the loop. We'll figure out

4:23

exactly what it's going to

4:25

be and how we're going to do it, and we'll

4:27

let you know, and it's going to be sooner

4:30

than later, because we want to stay involved

4:32

as this country goes through the most important

4:34

election of its time. I don't

4:36

know how it's going to turn out, but I definitely

4:38

want to be involved in the conversation and

4:40

I hope that you will want to be too.

4:43

And that's it.

4:45

It's been.

4:46

It's been a great year and I've

4:48

had a great time, and you

4:50

know, I will keep you up to date on what's

4:53

going on in my life. And as for

4:55

now, what's going on

4:57

is my dog, which is a clay

5:00

dog, really, Kuma, who

5:02

you know? I gotta say, Laurie, how

5:04

excited are you about my love

5:06

of dogs? You are the ultimate dog

5:09

person?

5:09

And could I just tell the people how not a

5:11

dog person you were?

5:13

To really? I'm really, I know a million

5:15

degree.

5:16

That was our joke. I would see a dog and

5:18

be like, oh, a dog, and you'd

5:20

see a baby and be like a baby. And we'd

5:23

run in two different directions.

5:25

Right exactly.

5:26

But now Kuma has

5:28

changed you. Well.

5:30

I have to say that being at Guide Dogs

5:32

of America for those ten days

5:35

and getting trained as the handler

5:37

of this autism service dog for

5:39

my child, Clay, I

5:42

was so moved by the

5:45

whole experience of what these people

5:47

have dedicated their life to. You

5:49

know, there were six visually impaired

5:51

people, and there were six women

5:54

who happened to be in our pod,

5:58

and two were veterans

6:00

from the war and had

6:03

mobility issues as a result,

6:05

and two worked in social work

6:07

hospital situations, and two myself

6:10

and Laura, were autism

6:13

moms, parents of autistic girls. And

6:16

so we had a wonderful experience

6:19

learning what we had to do and

6:22

getting our butts up at six something

6:24

every morning and working until

6:27

seven at night, and really

6:29

learning everything we had to learn in order

6:31

to take care of this dog.

6:33

And one of the things that

6:35

I noticed, Laurie,

6:38

from your love of dogs is how

6:41

you would say good night to your dogs every

6:43

night. And I remember like you would

6:45

stay over sometimes and I

6:47

remember thinking where's she going, like

6:49

as we were like heading up to the rooms, right

6:52

you you know, you go upstairs,

6:54

I'm upstairs. I'm halfway up the stairs, I'm like, where

6:56

are you going? And You're like, I'm just gonna

6:58

say good night.

6:59

To the dog. I

7:01

was like, you're gonna what.

7:04

And now the dog,

7:06

Kuma, sleeps in a crate right

7:09

next to the bed, so I can see her all night,

7:11

so that if she moves around or she needs

7:13

anything, now she never does. She goes

7:16

in there, happily into

7:18

her kennel, trained, gets

7:20

down there and waits until the

7:22

morning when you are ready to

7:24

get her out of the crate. So I

7:27

get up a little before seven,

7:29

I do my morning ritual stuff.

7:31

I go in the bathroom, I do what I have to

7:33

do. I brush my teeth. It takes

7:36

some time, you know, And then I wake up

7:38

my kid. And

7:40

then I open the crate and happily the

7:42

dog is wagging their tail, and go

7:45

downstairs, goes outside, does

7:47

her business, and we're off to start

7:49

the day. So it's been

7:52

an amazing experience. And I

7:55

didn't know if I'd.

7:55

Be able to do it. Yeah, did you think

7:57

I'd be able to do it?

7:59

The second told me that it was ten days

8:01

in a dorm like situation. I

8:04

was like, really, like even there,

8:06

I was so proud of you to take

8:08

that on. You were so focused, you were so

8:11

I'm going to do this, And we

8:13

made the joke about what are the sheets, Like, you

8:15

know, we because we've

8:18

done tours and we've done on set.

8:20

Yeah, we've been on the road before, and like.

8:23

We'd walk in the hotel and we'd both be like.

8:26

Yes, that's not going to work. This isn't

8:28

gonna work.

8:29

Yeah, so yeah, just there and then

8:31

you text me and you're like, I picked up the poop,

8:33

It's okay. And I was just like, you're

8:35

turning in.

8:36

There were things about a dog, sensory

8:38

things that I was like, the slobber.

8:41

I was like, now I get

8:43

it all over me, it's all over all my pants.

8:45

It's I got a little towel I clip

8:48

on my my my gene so that I

8:50

can use the towel to wipe my hands.

8:53

I have the purell all the time,

8:55

like you do.

8:56

Law. Yeah. Well you used to tell me what yeah,

8:58

babies would do and what didn't bother

9:00

you, and I'd be like, I'd be like vomiting

9:03

in the back.

9:03

Of yeah, like cleaning a diaper, a throw

9:05

up or it never bothered me one bit. You

9:08

know, I never thought about it with the baby,

9:10

but somehow with a dog, it

9:13

just felt like it was overwhelming

9:16

and I didn't realize

9:18

what you get back. But this dog has

9:21

trained their entire life

9:24

in order to be of service to

9:26

someone else, and who

9:29

they are in service of is Clay Yes,

9:31

and Blakey

9:34

is here with his fiance Teresa, and

9:37

they took her for a long walk, and they

9:39

walked past a dog park because you're not

9:41

supposed to take the dog a guy's

9:44

dog or to the dog park

9:46

because of either fights that the

9:48

dog would get hurt or just

9:52

bad habits they would pick up, and so

9:55

they tell you not to take the dog to a

9:57

dog park. But they were walking through a dog

9:59

park, you know, near a dog park, and she

10:01

didn't Kuma did not respond, didn't

10:04

like poll to go there, or didn't do anything,

10:07

and they

10:09

hurt a kid having a little

10:11

bit of a tantrum or a meltdown, and then

10:14

Kuma looked up. She

10:17

looked, and she looked to the kid

10:19

that was in the middle of a crisis, and then

10:21

she wanted to go like she

10:23

has been so trained to

10:25

understand that a

10:28

child in crisis that that kind of

10:30

a cry is her indication

10:33

to soothe the child, you

10:35

know. So I just found it so

10:38

fascinating and the dedication that

10:40

people have given, Like

10:43

since the baby puppy is born,

10:46

from eight weeks on, they're trained.

10:49

They're trained by sixteen months

10:52

in the house of someone who loves the dog.

10:56

Then they go to get trained at two

10:58

different prisons here in California,

11:00

and those inmates

11:02

have the dog for a year or

11:04

a year and a half sometimes and

11:06

then the dog should they graduate

11:08

and successfully

11:11

be placed with a family. That's

11:14

the successful run from

11:16

the puppies birth until now. And

11:19

I have to say I would love to do

11:21

everything that I can to

11:23

let people know about this service

11:26

more after this don't go away.

11:49

When you get a diagnosis of autism

11:52

for your kid, nobody

11:54

gives you a book, you know, nobody

11:56

hands you a roadmap. Nobody says

11:58

this is what it's going to be like, because no one knows,

12:01

because every diagnosis

12:03

of autism comes with different flavors

12:06

and different accents and and different

12:09

uh, different

12:11

things that need attention.

12:13

Yes, and sometimes it hides itself.

12:16

There's there's moments. I mean,

12:18

because of you and because of Clay, I know a little

12:20

bit more about autism. But until

12:23

then, you get this picture in your

12:25

head what autism means. And

12:28

I have learned that we have

12:30

no picture in our head. Each

12:32

person is different and you have to just figure

12:35

out what I don't know, If

12:37

this is about what quirks I don't know?

12:39

You know, Yes, it works exactly, yes,

12:43

And they have their own perspective. And

12:45

so we've been working with UH

12:48

speech pathologists, a

12:50

very learned woman about

12:54

pragmatic conversation, because when

12:56

Clay meets

12:59

someone or is in a new situation, they

13:01

don't always know what to

13:04

say, and sometimes

13:06

what they say is not traditional

13:09

neurotypical chit chat.

13:12

So the woman's here teaching us and

13:15

says, you know, hello, Clay,

13:17

how are you? And Clay responds

13:19

fine, okay,

13:22

Well what is the you know, the

13:24

neurotypical response to hi, how are you?

13:26

I'm fine? How are you right?

13:28

So the next day we do

13:30

it every Monday. The next Monday, the woman

13:33

comes and says, first

13:36

they do it with me right. So she'll say, hi.

13:38

Ro how are you? And I'm like, I'm great, how

13:41

are you? Lois?

13:41

And she'll say, well, I had a really

13:44

great day. I had a very interesting lunch.

13:47

And then she looked over at Clay, and

13:49

Clay goes, you think I

13:51

care about your lunch?

13:54

Right?

13:55

You know, now, listen, Clay is not trying

13:57

to be mean. She's trying to say

13:59

that in her brain, it

14:01

does. It makes zero.

14:03

Sense why she would do that, you

14:05

know. So finally.

14:08

The woman says, how is your day? How are

14:11

you today? And she said, I'm not good. I

14:13

don't like being here. This is a very

14:15

boring part of my day. I know how

14:17

to have a conversation and this is just

14:19

dumb, you know, and

14:22

that the conversation ends right there. It's

14:24

not like and then yeah,

14:27

you go on. So

14:29

Clay came down and said

14:33

to me before we started this week, you

14:36

know, I really feel as though you're trying

14:38

to mold me into someone different than who

14:40

I am.

14:41

Oh wow, right,

14:43

And I read some of that.

14:45

Yes, I said, you know, I'm

14:47

really not doing that, honey. I'm trying

14:49

to arm you with basic

14:53

conversational maps

14:57

so that you can follow them the

15:00

way other people who are not autistic

15:04

do, right, And their

15:06

response was, why would I want to do that?

15:08

If I'm autistic?

15:10

Why would I want to try to change who

15:12

I am and become just

15:15

a normal person that's

15:17

not like me at all.

15:19

And I didn't have an answer.

15:20

There is no answer, because it's a

15:22

great thing that they said,

15:25

yes, and it's deep, and it's

15:28

it's deep, it's very deep, and

15:30

we felt, all right, we'll speak

15:32

for myself. Was the same about being queer.

15:35

I didn't, you know, it's not comparing its

15:37

apples to oranges, but the same where you

15:40

know, trim your eyebrows where this?

15:43

That where?

15:46

And I was like, why are you trying to do that? I

15:49

look stupid like that. I

15:51

look like a very ugly drag

15:53

queen. So I fight my life

15:56

to be who I am. Now

15:58

add that to someone who is

16:01

already a little different,

16:03

but in the head they're

16:06

different. They think differently, they hear differently,

16:08

they see differently, and I

16:10

that's a beautiful thing that Clay said. I don't

16:13

know how you'd answer it.

16:14

Yeah, And I'm very conscious

16:16

of not trying to

16:19

take away the parts

16:21

of them that make them unique and

16:23

make them who they are. I

16:25

am just trying to provide

16:28

enough resources that getting

16:30

through a normal conversation doesn't

16:32

cause panic, you know, doesn't

16:35

cause anxiety. And

16:37

it's funny. For a while, Clay

16:40

had a puppet named Jeremiah

16:43

and when new people would come in, they

16:45

would put on the puppet and

16:48

go talk to the people through the

16:50

pow right, And

16:53

it's kind of amazing, right, And so

16:56

I'm in an interesting place trying

16:59

to figure out how to best prepare

17:03

them for their adult life.

17:06

Right with with a neurotypical

17:09

society.

17:11

I knew you'd have your hands full because

17:13

they are so smart.

17:15

Yes, very very smart

17:17

and very you

17:20

know, very deep thinker.

17:22

Yeah.

17:22

I mean, you know, I don't

17:24

always have the answer when when

17:27

the question is why should I have to

17:29

learn to be something that I'm not?

17:32

Now Clay has friends and

17:34

do they have conversations.

17:36

Well, I will tell you this. We had a little

17:38

friend come over to meet Kuma,

17:41

and the whole time where the

17:44

young girl was very into the dog,

17:48

Clay was very into discussing BFDI

17:52

Battle for Dream Island, her very

17:54

favorite video show.

17:56

And so while

17:59

young Harp was playing with the

18:01

dog and getting the dog to do things and

18:03

trying to it was almost as though they

18:05

were parallel playing with different

18:08

like, you know, one was in the room with

18:10

the dog and present with the dog, and the

18:12

other was in their video game, yes,

18:14

and wanting to talk about and discuss

18:17

their video.

18:18

Yes, I've seen Clay do that,

18:20

and it's like a masterclass where

18:23

yeah, they had two friends over and they

18:25

were watching some video and Clay

18:27

just knew so much about it how to pause and

18:30

make sure that they were getting it, like

18:32

explaining that character and this

18:34

voice is wrong because they are this and

18:37

it was amazing, right.

18:38

And the person who voices this character

18:41

also voices another character and

18:43

they're too similar for me. I

18:45

wish there was a differentiation between

18:48

the two voices that you know, and I'm

18:50

like, whoa, And you know, it's

18:53

like when they do a deep dive.

18:55

It's a deep dive. Like I always

18:57

think.

18:57

When I had my TV talk show, we

19:00

had amazing producers who would find out

19:02

facts about celebrities that people

19:05

didn't know because, you know, celebrity culture

19:07

is so overwhelmingly everywhere.

19:11

Yeah, you know, and we know so

19:13

many things about celebrities

19:17

that are redundant, and so

19:19

when you have an interview with someone that you've seen

19:21

interviewed twenty times, you have to

19:23

come up with something new. And I

19:25

always think, like, what will they be like

19:27

as an adult? And I could totally see

19:30

them either writing the material

19:33

for these kinds of shows

19:35

and or just being a researcher,

19:38

right, because if they love

19:40

the topic, there is no stopping

19:43

their interest. So in terms of

19:45

Clay, I'm trying to figure out where the best

19:47

school for them, now

19:49

that they're going to be entering middle school,

19:51

where the best school would be And although

19:54

we haven't really discussed it yet, you

19:56

know, New York and going back to New York

19:59

is definitely at possibility that is on

20:01

the table. And I also feel

20:03

like they might do better being around

20:05

their siblings, you

20:07

know, because this world

20:10

of just mommy and me gets

20:12

small pretty quick.

20:14

You know, how's it going with Blake and Teresa

20:16

there? Well?

20:17

Great, they're here, and you know they're

20:20

wonderful. Teresa, of course, is a special

20:22

ed teacher, so she understands it

20:24

in ways that some people never

20:27

can. And you know, there were times

20:29

where Blake would

20:31

get hurt feelings when Clay

20:33

would say I don't like this

20:36

present?

20:37

Oh yeah at Christmas? Right.

20:39

So the truth factor,

20:41

or what is true for Clay, is

20:43

of prominent importance in her

20:46

mind and her moral makeup.

20:48

So why would she lie? Is

20:51

the question that she brings up to me all

20:53

they bring up to me all the time.

20:55

Why would I lie?

20:58

And I don't like this present. Do

21:00

you want me to lie and say I like this

21:02

present?

21:03

Right?

21:03

Sometimes I think that they don't even

21:05

know me if they bought me this present. The

21:08

president's deeper meaning about who they are

21:10

and whether they are seen and

21:12

known and so, you

21:15

know, it's a very complicated.

21:19

Parenting, yes, journey.

21:21

And I remember how implicated when Blake was

21:23

young, because I was complicated

21:26

too, and you got him through his things where

21:28

people would say hello to you

21:31

and they would look at him

21:33

and say I know your mommy, and he was

21:35

like, I don't know. You don't know my mommy. Like

21:38

he would get very angry because he was very

21:40

as well.

21:41

Yes, so you don't know my mommy.

21:43

She just famous. Yeah, exact,

21:45

that's what he would say, she just famous.

21:48

So it's interesting because it's so interlappable

21:52

but different, right, because Blake

21:54

had auditory processing disorder,

21:57

and you know there's all overlaps

22:00

with ASD autism spectrum

22:02

disorder, and and there

22:04

are overlaps, but when you have a diagnosis

22:07

first and foremost of autism,

22:10

you know, the behavior is different. Yeah,

22:13

the outlook is different, the worldview

22:15

is different. And I think that the

22:17

more that they are around

22:19

their siblings, the more they understand

22:22

the family dynamic. You know, since

22:25

they've been here, we've watched some movies. We watched

22:27

The Flintstones with me.

22:28

In it

22:29

starring Rosy O'Donnell.

22:32

There you go.

22:33

Did they like it?

22:35

Yes, and they laughed and they

22:37

got it, and you know, it was just

22:39

funny to sit and watch with my nearly

22:42

married, twenty four year old son and

22:44

my eleven year old kiddo. They're

22:48

different responses to me. Amazing,

22:50

Yeah, it really was amazing.

22:53

And you know, Blakie's wedding is coming up

22:55

so exciting. Yeah,

22:58

it's so exciting. It's hard for me to believe, you

23:00

know, my first

23:03

kiddo wedding to do. You know, my

23:05

first I mean, Chelsea

23:07

was married when she was very young and

23:09

got divorced, but she was not

23:11

living with us when that occurred, and so

23:14

we didn't have there wasn't a wedding,

23:16

it was they just got married. So

23:18

this is the first kind of big

23:20

wedding that we're doing for one

23:22

of the kids, and that happens

23:25

in August, and you know, very

23:27

excited to do that and having them here makes

23:30

me really know how much it's

23:32

important for me to be around them

23:35

more after this don't go away.

23:58

When I moved here with Clay,

24:01

it was because we

24:04

were starting third grade and

24:06

I had just gotten a role on a

24:09

new series called American

24:11

Jigelow and COVID

24:14

came and the strike came, and it

24:16

ended up that we only did one

24:18

season, not even a full season. Truthfully,

24:21

there was a lot of chaos on the set and

24:24

we just never really took off. And so

24:27

for the last two years, I haven't been

24:29

working while I've been here. And

24:32

now as we enter another

24:35

middle school, enter the middle

24:37

school years, I just want to make

24:39

sure we have the best that

24:42

we can have for what their specific

24:45

needs are in those years.

24:47

Are so important, the middle school years. It's

24:50

so important. You

24:53

have the younger years and you carefully

24:56

have helped Clay along.

24:58

But now the middle school years, I

25:00

remember that's when stress really

25:02

started.

25:03

Yes, and and Clay lives with a lot

25:06

of stress, you know, And

25:08

any way that we can minimize that, anyway

25:11

that we can find

25:13

the right school for

25:15

them for now. The school

25:18

that they're in here did a great job

25:20

for those three years, but it's time.

25:22

I think with the new

25:24

assessment and evaluation from UCLA

25:27

about the areas of strength and areas

25:30

of weakness. We're going to have to make

25:32

another plan, and so that's what

25:34

we're in the middle of doing, which is also

25:36

the reason why we, you

25:39

know, are are done with this rendition

25:42

of Onward, because

25:44

we need to figure out where we're going

25:46

to be and how we're going to set it up, and whether

25:48

or not we can add this element of

25:51

live feeling,

25:54

live recording, live live

25:56

possibly. You know, the

25:58

the thrill of my TV show

26:00

for me was that there was no safety

26:04

net. That you were on that high

26:06

wire alone for one hour and

26:09

you had to just do the best that you could

26:11

and know that there's another live one the next day.

26:13

And that's what we did

26:15

live on TV for six years. And that's

26:18

what I'd like to find some sort of hybrid,

26:20

you know. I don't want to get

26:23

dressed up and the hair and makeup

26:25

and interview celebrities on the talk show.

26:27

It feels like I already did that.

26:30

What can we do now that's innovative

26:32

and new and really

26:35

fits in with today's digital

26:38

platforms, you.

26:39

Know, and with what's happening.

26:41

Things happened so fast. My frustration

26:44

also is that there would be things

26:46

we want to talk about, but we couldn't really.

26:48

By the time we aired it, we

26:51

were on three new things, like you

26:53

know, like.

26:54

I so many

26:56

things happening in the world, in

26:59

the mid East, in the United

27:01

States.

27:01

And like the election. Next,

27:03

Benedict, well, that

27:06

was a horrible story. I actually

27:08

even couldn't call you. I was so upset.

27:10

I couldn't imagine.

27:11

I was so upset too.

27:12

I was first of all, that

27:14

little person looks a lot like my little

27:16

person.

27:16

Yes, that absolutely, I'm getting

27:19

chills as you say that.

27:20

Yeah, same haircut, same same

27:22

little thing. Yea and non

27:25

binary young person

27:27

sixteen I believe sixteen and

27:30

was killed, murdered

27:32

in their school by

27:35

three older class people,

27:37

people who were a couple of years older. And

27:40

some of the reporting of

27:43

the case, you know, was heartbreaking

27:45

as well, because they.

27:47

They did nothing. Not only did they

27:49

do nothing, but they

27:51

got suspended. Next

27:54

that finally the teacher broke it up, didn't

27:57

call the ambulance, didn't call help, no

27:59

idea. Yeah, how they got home, but then the school suspended.

28:03

Next and what about the other Girlso

28:05

did that?

28:06

No word on the other girls. And they're

28:08

looking into it because they're not sure that

28:10

the beating is what killed next.

28:12

Yeah, give me a break. I know, the whole

28:15

thing is just so unbelievable. And

28:17

it's Oklahoma where the

28:19

governor is. I know his last

28:21

name sounds like shit, but it's Governor

28:24

Kevin Stitt who

28:26

made it mandatory that the only bathroom

28:28

you could use was the bathroom

28:31

of your birth gender.

28:34

Is that right?

28:34

Right?

28:35

How you say it?

28:36

Because it's so want to

28:39

leave them alone, do a WC, get a

28:41

water closet.

28:43

You're so obsessed with people's bodily

28:45

functions that you teach this hate

28:48

this child is

28:51

It was like Matthew Shepherd all

28:53

over again.

28:54

It really was very

28:57

horrifying.

28:57

Yeah, and it, you know, threw

28:59

me for a loop too, because you

29:02

know, you always worry about your kid's safety,

29:04

but when you have a exceptionally

29:07

vulnerable child, it's

29:09

one hundredfold. You know, when you have

29:11

a disability in the

29:13

family, when someone is

29:16

is when it's not a fair fight, right,

29:18

they'll even mind. Yeah,

29:21

they don't even get it. And just

29:24

heartbreaking. But you

29:26

know, these are all the things

29:28

we eat. We've we've done what we

29:30

could do, and we try to make

29:33

it, you know, entertaining.

29:36

We hope that you guys have enjoyed it. I'd

29:38

like to thank all of our guests, starting with Sharon

29:41

Gless, who was amazing as

29:43

a first guest and still one of our highest

29:46

downloaded episodes. The

29:48

amazing Rory Kennedy with her documentary

29:51

about the volcano, and Jennifer

29:54

Lewis of the Saint Louis Lewis's Dylan

29:56

Mulvaney, who was fantastic, Brookshields

29:58

who has her own podcast. Margaret

30:01

Chow, always funny, always an

30:03

activist, stood up and was talking

30:05

about that horrible murder

30:07

in the school just as we were this morning,

30:10

making me cry with her very

30:12

poignant and heartfelt words.

30:16

Cheta Rivera, who we lost.

30:18

But so glad I got to have that last conversation

30:20

with her, and you guys got to hear it. The

30:23

amazing Cameron Mannheim, who

30:25

is a friend and a

30:28

good egg all around. Ricky Lake.

30:31

Nobody makes me laugh as much as Ricky Lake,

30:33

and nobody makes me look

30:36

at her. I look at Ricky in wonderment

30:39

because of how she's able to live her life.

30:41

And Stephanie Mills,

30:43

who I've adored since I saw her on Broadway

30:45

back in nineteen ninety something eighty

30:48

something eighty Something to eight logic

30:51

who I met at a restaurant and

30:53

he turned out to be a friend, and

30:56

what an amazing story he has. The

30:58

one and only Holland Taylor was fabulous.

31:00

Bridget Everett so wonderful

31:03

and her show so great. Cyndi Lauper,

31:05

Billy Porter, reality

31:07

winner who is a national hero

31:09

if you asked me, Belinda Carlisle,

31:12

thank you for doing our show. Kristin Schenowith,

31:15

doctor Daniel Rosen, Sheila

31:17

Nevans one of the smartest women I've

31:19

ever met in my life.

31:20

Is she nominated for an Academy Award

31:23

or friend?

31:23

Sheula? I believe she is?

31:25

Yes, yes, rightly so it's

31:28

about banning books.

31:29

Yes, yep, Sheila Evans the

31:31

most awarded woman in showbiz history

31:33

and rightly so, rightly so. Marcy

31:36

Simmons, Samantha Bee, Elizabeth

31:38

Faulkner, my chef and one hell of

31:40

a person, Maria Bamford, Lena

31:43

Waith, Alexander Vinman.

31:45

I loved having him on.

31:46

Kathy Griffin, one of the highest rated

31:49

ones we've had period. Kathy

31:51

Griffin, Lyle Menendez.

31:53

That was a very heavy and interesting

31:58

view of a person who's maybe

32:01

you hadn't thought about in a long time, and

32:03

hopefully you revisited that

32:05

case and all the time that has passed

32:08

and and maybe have a new way.

32:10

To view it.

32:11

Judy Gold who is hysterical and

32:13

funny and kind. Amy Nelson

32:15

whose family was attacked by Jeff

32:17

Bezos and Amazon from May

32:19

one now and they want

32:22

and I'm so happy for them.

32:25

Sophie Valentine Hawkins, who's

32:28

a fantastic person. The reason we

32:30

know each other, Yes, we know each

32:32

other because of Sophie Valentine Hawkins.

32:34

There you go, Angela Tucker,

32:36

Charles Bush, Cheryl Jon Dunie, Alexandra

32:40

Pelosi, Alison Joseph's, Murray

32:42

Hill, Annoyed Lemon, Sam

32:45

Harris, my Buddy, what a great singer

32:47

he is, What a great writer, Jimmy

32:50

Smagoola. We

32:52

had questions from listeners. Derek Downey

32:55

Junior, my squirrel friend, Kayleie Schmidt

32:57

who helped me with the with the dog

33:00

service dog and coaches

33:02

the autism parents who are going

33:04

through it. Kayleie, thank you so much.

33:06

And my favorite Linda

33:09

Richmond. That was just last

33:11

week, and that is a

33:14

total of all the guests that we had

33:16

on this show. And I just want to thank everyone, I

33:18

really do. I want to thank iHeartRadio,

33:20

I want to thank everybody who listened, and

33:23

I want to let you know that we're not going

33:25

anywhere. We'll be around somewhere. Look

33:27

for us on TikTok at Rosie and

33:30

thank you very much for all the support here

33:32

at Onward with Rosie, O'Donnell, and

33:35

you take care of yourself and I will

33:37

be seeing you on the Tiki Talk.

33:40

Laura, I love you.

33:41

I love you, Lyra.

33:42

Thank you for all the help. You were amazing

33:45

and there it is.

33:47

Thank you very much. We're out of here.

33:50

Peace out.