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Debra Pascali-Bonaro: Hello, what do you know about Tantra?

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Have you considered Tantra as a preparation for an ecstatic and

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orgasmic birth? How Tantra can help to cultivate inner ecstasy

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before conception and birth? Hi, I'm Debra Pascali-Bonaro, host

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of the Orgasmic Birth Podcast. I am here today with someone that

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I have to tell you, I am so honored to talk with you and

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learn. My guest today is Ma Ananda Sarita. She is a world

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renowned Tantra Master and Mystic, offering courses,

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retreats and trainings throughout the world. Having

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lived in OSHA's physical presence for 16 years, and 26

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years in his community. She received direct transmission

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from him on meditation and Tantra. She is true to the

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spiritual essence of tantra and guide her students on the path

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of Self Realisation. At the same time, she helps people and her

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students transcend the psychological issues that we are

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carried as a result, both of cultural conditioning and past

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experiences. She is a Master Healer, Author of two books, and

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a producer, director of tantra online courses, and Tantra

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meditation, music and downloads. And stay tuned at the very end

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because she's offering so many great opportunities to learn

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more. But for now, welcome. It is truly an honor. For those

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that are watching, we're meeting in Bali this morning. For the

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very first time when I arrived on the island and saw that she

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was here, I immediately reached out and thought, what a gift to

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be able to be in your presence and to really hear your own

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words about your work, and also your wisdom for all those that

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might be preparing for conception, or for you tell me a

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little bit about your journey, and what Tantra is?

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Ma Ananda Sarita: I'd like to extend a very my high regards to

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any woman who has given birth, or is considering to get

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pregnant and give birth. Because I feel very passionately about

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this subject that orgasmic birth is a real possibility for women

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throughout the world. And it does tie in with Tantra, and

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also with ayurveda. I'm also very passionate about ayurveda

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as well as tantra and meditation. And I think all of

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this links together. I believe that in the past, tantra,

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ayurveda and yoga were all sides of the same tree of life. And as

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human beings, we need to reclaim this as a way a coherent and

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sane way forward for our societies and our cultures

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throughout the world. Now, it might be interesting to know

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that in contrast that our method methodologies for conscious

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conception, conscious pregnancy and birth, in ayurveda, they

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have an entire protocol for mothers who are pregnant. They

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also have a protocol. So the optimal way to conceive, and I

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think we'll go into that in more detail in a little while. But

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this is just a nutshell and then about tantra in particular. It

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is a spiritual path to enlightenment. It's using

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everything that the human being, whatever we are, whether that is

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our senses, our emotions, the chakra system, kundalini energy

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expanded states of intelligence and consciousness. Tantra will

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work with all of these different aspects and apply message of

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meditation to any of these aspects of life. And of course,

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that includes our sexuality, that also includes pregnancy,

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birth, or whatever it is we are going through as human beings.

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And in a nutshell, tantra is a weaving together of love. And

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meditation and witnessing is more of a masculine approach to

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spirituality. While love and devotion is very naturally a

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feminine approach to spirituality. When we weave

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these two approaches together, then we have contrast, so this

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is what tantra is in a nutshell. And it utilises methods of

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meditation with a very loving, devotional, sacred ambience. And

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these methods are applied to every life experience. There is

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a scripture from the world of tantra, which is called the

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Vigyan Bhairav of Tantra. I just like to say a little bit about

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it, because it's actually very romantic. It's the most romantic

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scripture, I think, that exists on the earth because it is

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delivered as a dialogue between Lloyd Shiva and his beloved. The

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scene is (inaudible), and she was loved. She's asking

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questions about life, love, spirituality, and he is giving

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answers. And each one of his answers is one method of

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meditation. And these are delivered in sutra form. A sutra

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is a very short, condensed spiritual teaching. So whatever

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she's asking, instead of giving her a philosophical answer, he

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is giving her a message. By practising the method, her own

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innate intelligence will start bubbling up. And she will find

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herself gradually expanding in her awareness and receiving the

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anchor through her own lived experience. So this indicates to

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us that sutra is based on experience, and also on

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awakening our own innate intelligence. And this is done

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through utilising methods, because the method will give you

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the opportunity to live this experience. Now, I'll just say

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one of the sutra's which I think is very relevant for mothers

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which is, as a hen mother her chick, mother particular

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knowings, particular doing. So this quality of mothering, other

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hens, mothers are chicks. Now, just imagine all these chicks,

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they run all over. So she has to be in a very aware state of

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multitasking because she's mothering all these chicks that

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are running. And we all know that women are very, very

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interested in multitasking. And we're given that gift by nature

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because we have to mother children, and children are also

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running all around. They get into mischief, and you have to

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be very aware. So this sutra is basically telling us that

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motherhood in itself can be a path of meditation, and that we

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can apply this quality of mothering to anything that we do

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to optimise it to bring it out. Now, there's another sutra that

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I really love, and this is a sutra that I heard from my

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master Osho. When I first met him, it was the very first

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meeting. When I met him, I was 17 years old. I had hitchhiked

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to North America. I left my home when I was 15, which is also

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North America. Then I took one flight to UK and then I

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hitchhiked all through Europe overland through the Middle

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East, to India. By the time I reached India, I was 17. And the

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first thing that happened to me was that I found myself in Bodh

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Gaya, which is the place where Buddha got enlightened, and I

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learned the partner meditation. I did a 10 day silent retreat,

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and this was my introduction into meditation. And then I was

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travelling to Mumbai to do a month long retreat that was

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going on. I think many people have heard of growing conflict

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so it was with going directly the night before that Muslim

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retreat, I met Osho. This was through an acquaintance that I

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met in a backpacker hotel. And he just said, I'm going to meet

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a very interesting man tonight, maybe you would like to come. So

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I said, okay. I was always up for some adventure. So I went

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there, and there was about 30 people dressed in orange, they

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were sitting in meditation. This man has not explained to me

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anything about Osho. At that time, he was known as level one.

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So I was just sitting in meditation and then Osho loaded

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into the room, it looked like that, because his mood was so

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grateful. He sat in an easy chair, and he started giving

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discourse on the Vigyan Bhairav of Sutra. The sutra he was

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commenting on that evening was as follows, while engaged in

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sexual union, stay attentive on the fire in the beginning. And

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so continuing, avoid the embers in the end. So he gave a

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magnificent discourse, an hour and a half discourse on the

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sutra commenting on sexuality according to sutra. Bringing

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awareness to the sexual art and helping us to achieve long

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lasting sexual union, which is so steaming on many, many

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levels. Now, this is relevant to our conversation. Because when

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we are engaged in very conscious sexual union, that leads us to

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conscious conception. There is a very ancient tradition in both

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Tantra and Ayurveda. You do ritual meditation, you call in

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the type of soul that you would like to incarnate in to you. So

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they have special rituals for that special mindset. Because

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according to your particular quality of mind, your approach,

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you will call in that kind of soul. And also in ayurveda, they

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do quite an amazing preparation that couple would go through

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what is called ayurveda contract cardamom. And this is cleansing

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you on multiple levels. So it cleanses both the female and the

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male, and then ayurveda strologer would determine the

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best day and time for conception after the cardamom. What it does

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is it optimizes the quality of both the sperm and the egg.

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During the punch of cardamom, a couple is not allowed to have

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sex, they just go through a lot of records on all levels, body,

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mind, soul. Then after that, the ayurveda astrologer says the

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best day and time to conceive. So you wait for that day and

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time, which is going to ensure that the sperm and the egg are

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optimum potency. And you do special ritual to call in a

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conscious conception. So this is something beautiful. This has

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been lost in our culture. People are absolutely unaware of this.

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In America, 50% of babies are not even planned so there's a

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difference between planning. Conscious conception takes it to

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a whole nother level. And if you combine that with tantric

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meditation, so you bring in this meditative sacred quality into

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that sexual union, of course, you are optimising your

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potential immensely. Now, even women who are having trouble to

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conceive many times, they will be helped by doing a punch of

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cardamom, and then going into the conception. Because as I

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said before, it's optimising the egg and the sperm, both. It's

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not sufficient if only the woman goes because it takes two to

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tango. Obviously, we have the sperm and the egg, and they need

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to be of a high calibre. So the health, both the male and the

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female is very, very important. Because then, we will have a

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stronger child. And that also has implications for generations

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into the future. We need to optimise our own health because

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that ensures that the generations into the future.

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It's also optimised. Of course, that's a concern. We should

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always think of those generations into the future. And

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also, just on another subject during the pregnancy, in

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ayurveda, they take care of the mother in very specific ways. So

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through very specific ways of eating, through special kinds of

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massages as well. And that includes at some point some

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special kind of internal massage. At different times in

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the pregnancy, different protocols are followed. And that

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ensures a very easy birth process. Now after the birth,

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they don't stop with the birth. After the birth, they have a

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special protocols where mothers are really nurtured and taken

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care of for at least three months. They are given very

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regular and special kind of massage, even special foods,

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special care. Different kinds of mantras are chanted, and both

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baby and mother are cared for in this way. And it's a time of

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deep bonding between the mother and the child. And this is

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thought to be absolute importance for the good

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development of the child. So this is a really interesting

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process, which I think is so important,and I wish that could

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be adopted in the western world as well.

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Debra Pascali-Bonaro: Yes, I couldn't agree more. Is this

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still carried on very commonly in India?

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Ma Ananda Sarita: Anywhere where there is a strong presence of

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ayurveda, this would still be follows. And I happened to be

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present in my diabetic doctor. The doctor was giving birth, I

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wasn't at the actual birth, but I was there as the process was

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going on. So the doctor explained all these things to me

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Debra Pascali-Bonaro: Who does the internal massage?

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and I was so deeply touched. I actually wrote a newsletter

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about it. This just spread the good news to people. This is an

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option which can be followed. Now, I had the good fortune to

17:13

meet another woman who is very prominent in the natural healing

17:22

process. Her name is Dr. Gowri Motha. She lives in England. She

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originated from Sri Lanka, so she developed what is called The

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Gentle Birth Method. And she wrote a book called The Gentle

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Birth Method, and another book called Gentle First Year. Her

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story is very interesting because she was raised in Sri

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Lanka, she became a doctor surgeon, and then she was going

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to the UK to continue being a doctor. And she was specialising

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in birth. Now, what she found out was in Sri Lanka, for native

18:33

land, women might be working in the fields. It was time for

18:42

birth, they would just squat down, give birth, put the baby

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on the back and go on working. So in essence, they were having

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basically a smooth, easy, almost painless birth. Then she went to

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UK, and she found that birth is being treated almost like a

19:18

disease. People were in a phobia, terrified of the pain,

19:26

needing so much intervention. She said, something is not

19:34

right. Because why in my native land, it's so easy. And why is

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it so difficult here? So she wanted to make a difference for

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women. She went about establishing her natural birth

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Ma Ananda Sarita: In book told exactly how to do the massage,

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process, which hold a gentle birth method. Now in her book,

20:00

and then her partner can do it. Or if she doesn't have a

20:04

partner, she can find a trusted friend to offer these massages.

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she outlines everything the woman needs to do throughout her

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So this is a very important site. And then in addition to

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that, she's also giving exactly what supplements to take, what

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pregnancy in order to lead to a painless birth. I've had friends

20:20

kinds of foods to eat, what kind of exercises, like yoga style of

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exercises to do. And she has a special self hypnosis process to

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who follow the book, and they didn't even meet Dr. Gowri. They

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de-hypnotise a woman from believing that birth is painful.

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read the book, follow the protocol and were able to

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And this is very important. Because apparently, if we are

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believing or thinking about things, the pleasure aspect of

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achieve the painless birth. So one of the protocols she

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our body will shut down, and we will not produce leisure

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hormones. If we are focusing on leisure, the pain producing

20:51

outlines is to stop eating gluten during the pregnancy. The

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possibilities in our body will become much less. So with this

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reason is, because gluten creates walling in the whole

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self hypnosis process which the woman does throughout her

21:04

pregnancy, she trains herself to believe in leisure, and that

21:08

body, even the brain tissues, or the soft tissues, and that

21:10

will fuel the leisure potential of the body. And I think this is

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includes the yoni. I'm calling the female genital YONI, this is

21:17

a really compassionate thing that we've done to give this

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possibility for women. Because in essence, women have been

21:25

hypnotised to believe that it's painful. It's really a hypnosis.

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a Sanskrit word which means sacred place. So I prefer it to

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So we need to de-condition ourselves from that, and reclaim

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the terms that are used in our English language or in many

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more of a natural approach where we really trust and believe in

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our bodies. And it's very obvious that the clitoris and

21:43

other languages. The terms is not really honoring, so this is

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equatorial network have 8000 nerve endings devoted to

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pleasure. So if we tap into that pictorial network as we are

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why I use the term yoni. So the tissue of the yoni also swells

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going towards birth, and during birth, this will be supporting

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very much to have an orgasm. But I think this is really important

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up. And she says, this is why many times women need

22:05

to understand about this situation, this possibility and

22:08

interventions because there's no space for the baby to come

22:10

potential. And then also going about it in her second book,

22:14

Gentle First Year, she's emphasising how important it is

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through, because the tissue is too small. So if a woman does

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for mother and child bonding after the birth. That this is of

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supreme importance for the future well being of the

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not eat gluten during pregnancy, the yoni will be much easier,

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incoming child. Debra Pascali-Bonaro: I just have to say, I love how you

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talked about that we've been, as a culture, women around the

22:35

more open the birthing process. And then it's highly possible

22:35

world hypnotised into pain, and I couldn't agree with you more.

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I'm really interested in how we can open up and go deeper into

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that she can give natural birth not needing to be touched,

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pleasure. Many of our people listening would like that

22:49

pleasurable orgasmic birth, but are struggling. I know that

22:52

etcetera. So this coupled with massage. Internal massage at

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you're giving them lots of tips, but what other ways could they

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access Tantra? What other ways do you see that they can

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certain times during the pregnancy is very important.

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decondition from the pain and be more connected to love and

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Ma Ananda Sarita: This is very, very important. Just before I go

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pleasure? into that subject, I wanted to talk about a film, which I think

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maybe many of our watchers or listeners have already seen.

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It's called, Birth As We Know It. This is a supreme film. If

23:25

you haven't watched it, just go there and watch it. Because this

23:30

is also about giving birth in water, and about trusting our

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body and how it is of a natural birth. And they show so many

23:41

births. So just watching that, there is already a strong

23:45

deconditioning just to watch the film. And she's also emphasising

23:50

emotional rigidity practices as a very important aspect of

23:55

leading up to a positive and even orgasmic birthing process.

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Because we shouldn't underestimate our emotions, and

24:05

what that can do to us as we are carrying the child and giving

24:09

birth. Because basically, our limbic system has been programed

24:13

to our own birth when we were born. And so if our own birth

24:18

was not at the optimum, we need to be conditioned, release that

24:23

trauma, and open ourselves to rewriting our own inner script,

24:28

and then we will be able to give birth passing down this huge

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script that we have embodied through that emotional process.

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Now, when I teach Tantra groups, emotional fluidity is an

24:41

integral part. Because so many of us are carrying trauma or

24:46

wounding from our past that we need to unwind, release, and

24:51

then we can open more easily to our inner ecstasy because the

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template and default of every human being is actually bleed,

24:59

and this is is very important to understand. There's another book

25:03

which I highly recommend which is called Molecules of Emotion.

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Debra Pascali-Bonaro: Yes, I know that book well. Ma Ananda Sarita: And this book is outlining how our emotions,

25:13

mind and body work synergistically together. And in

25:17

that book, the author makes a very important statement that

25:22

human beings are hardwired for bliss. This is our natural

25:26

template, and she found that out through laboratory studies. So

25:31

this is what makes it really a very important statement.

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Mystics have been saying that down the ages, but we haven't

25:38

really understood. But if you read this book and you trust the

25:43

science, which all the research has gone into it, then it's like

25:47

an aha moment. Oh, so I'm hardwired for bliss. And if I'm

25:52

not following my bliss and I'm going in a wrong direction, I

25:55

have to adjust my life so that I can come back to that original

25:59

template. And this is very integral to this tantra

26:04

approach. Because basically, any tantra methodology will bring us

26:09

back to our original template for less. And I like to quote

26:15

another sutra which you can tie with your partner. And this is

26:21

really exquisite. It's very simple to practice. This is

26:25

called the caressing meditation.

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Debra Pascali-Bonaro: I like the name. Ma Ananda Sarita: So the sutra is, while being caress, sweet

26:32

princess enter the caress as everlasting life. You get

26:36

goosebumps with this sutra. I do every, every time. So this is

26:41

the most mind blowing meditation. In this meditation,

26:46

you are sensitising the entire body. Now, why is it so

26:50

effective? Because the body is always in the present moment.

26:55

And when you are extensively in the present moment, it brings

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you into the experience of, you are beyond time and money. So

27:05

the body is one of the best portals into right states of

27:09

meditation where you go into timeless space, you're in tune

27:14

with your beliefs, your inner ecstasy. And on top of that

27:18

depressing meditation sensitises the entire body. And in that

27:23

sense, it also heals sexual dysfunction of all kinds. Now,

27:28

the way to practice this meditation is one partner lays

27:33

down on their belly, the other partner sits by the side. You,

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first of all, make a caress on some soft tissue like either

27:42

fingertip, or maybe the four fingers, or maybe the whole

27:47

head, and you ask your receiving partner which kind of caress you

27:52

prefer. And the receiving partner will say, oh, maybe the

27:57

fingertip, or maybe the whole thing, or maybe a whole hand,

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and then using only that kind of chorus for the entire

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meditation. And then you begin caressing, and you cover the

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entire back so you don't leave anything on caress. You need to

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correct from the head to the toes, and you just simply cover

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the entire body taking approximately 10 minutes. And

28:25

then you ask your partner to turn over and you caress the

28:29

entire body taking about 10 minutes. So it's very slow, very

28:34

meditative as you are giving the caress. The giver is in a state

28:39

of meditation, the receiver is also in a state of meditation.

28:44

You're using only one hand. Because if you use your hands,

28:49

it's distracting. So the person needs to focus on the sensation

28:54

of that, that medication that's beautiful, and it's sensitises

28:59

the entire body. And after that 20 minutes of one receiving,

29:04

then you exchange, and the other partner exchanges and proceeds.

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And it's very nice to receive the sutra at the beginning on

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the back. And again, at the beginning on the front at the

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end of the 20 minutes. You just stay in silence for maybe two

29:23

minutes, letting the process integrate, then you can bring a

29:28

singing bowl maybe two or three times to indicate now that's

29:33

complete. And after that, you can go into lovemaking and

29:37

you'll see that both of you have become so exquisitely

29:42

sensitised. That quality of the sacredness of touch, moving

29:46

beyond time and space, and just being open to eternity through

29:51

the tap, you will be in a state of blissful awareness. And then

29:56

you take that into your lovemaking, the lovemaking will

30:01

have a completely different quality. So this is just giving

30:06

you a taste of what is possible through tantra. And I really

30:11

recommend that you try it. It's absolutely amazing. And

30:15

strangely enough, that ancient sutra, which is at least 5000

30:20

years old links to something that happened in our modern

30:24

world, which is discoveries of Masters and Johnson. They were a

30:29

team who researched all about sexuality. They wrote a seminal

30:34

book on that. And recently, there's been a film on Netflix,

30:39

which is called Masters of Sex, which dramatised their whole

30:44

discovery and talked about it. There's a book by the same name

30:49

Masters of Sex, which describes their findings, which is really

30:54

interesting. But they were helping people who had sexual

30:59

dysfunction to find fulfilment in sex, utilising what they have

31:04

found through their scientific research. The research is very,

31:09

very interesting. They busted certain meats, for example. One

31:14

of the things they discovered is what is called the sensate focus

31:19

exercise. And basically, it's very similar to the caressing

31:24

meditation. They describe that if somebody has sexual

31:28

dysfunction, you use this very soft caressing over the entire

31:33

body. So you sensitise the entire body, and through that,

31:37

the sexual dysfunction disappear. Of course, you have

31:42

to do it 10 times. You can't just do it one time, there's a

31:46

prescribed number of times that you must do this. And that

31:51

gradually, the person sexual dysfunction will simply heal by

31:56

using this method. So I think it's fascinating. You have

32:00

something coming from the ancient and anything coming from

32:05

our modern research, and they need adverbs. And it is

32:09

increasingly like that between science and spirituality. What

32:14

the mystics have been saying for thousands of years, scientists

32:19

are now realising, oh, actually, that's true for my scientific

32:24

findings as well. Debra Pascali-Bonaro: Even in childbirth, we're realising how

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much we can learn, and the tradition of the path is all

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coming together. My heart is singing, my oxytocin is flowing,

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I feel it all. I know for all our listeners, they'd love to

32:50

find out how they can connect with you. I know you're there in

32:53

Bali offering some amazing programs and other things online

32:57

as well. Share with everyone, and we'll put this all in the

33:01

show notes, as well as the books to recommend.

33:06

Ma Ananda Sarita: So for those of you who can't travel to Bali

33:09

or Europe, because I'm working with a team. So me and my team,

33:14

we offer in country courses in Bali, India and Europe, and this

33:20

includes courses with couples, as well as singles. I have

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developed seven levels for the couples call the Soulmate

33:28

series. And it takes three and a half years if you want to do all

33:34

seven levels. It's basically taking couples on the journey of

33:38

a lifetime deeper and deeper into intimacy, and the potential

33:43

that as inherent in your union bringing together sexuality,

33:48

love and spirituality. This is an absolutely phenomenal

33:52

opportunity. And I also offer one of those courses. One of

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them is called Master Lover. I have an online course by the

34:02

same names. And this course is offered for couples, and I have

34:06

another version for singles. Because the information in it

34:10

and the experience of it to people, because I find many

34:15

people are lacking in a coherent sexual education. Maybe they've

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learned about sex, they never learned it properly because it's

34:26

not taught properly in schools. So having a sexual education

34:30

with tantra principles is huge. That education is really, really

34:35

important that's why I developed Master Lover and why I spread

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it. You can do an online course. And then I have another course

34:44

for couples. It's one off course which is called Ocean of Blisss.

34:49

And this is devoted to Osho's teachings, his direct discourses

34:53

about tantric sexuality in the couple. And so I just created a

34:58

course all around. I offer that both in Thailand and in Bali.

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And on top of that, I also have many different courses, for

35:11

example, (inaudible) series, which is for women only. And I

35:15

also have the Goddess Essence teacher training. I have a

35:19

series which is focusing on the chakras, and I have a teacher

35:23

training for that. So this is the Tantra Mastery series. And

35:29

there's a tantric teacher training based on that series.

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And then I have also a Tantra Yoga teacher training. So that's

35:39

weaving together yoga and Tantra with a blend of Ayurvedic

35:44

principles in it. Then I have another group called Tantra

35:47

Transformation which deals with stuck emotional patterns from

35:52

days in our life and helps to unwind and we write the script.

35:56

So this is very important if somebody would like to become

35:59

pregnant and they feel like, oh, I need to unwind. This move is

36:05

really, really good for that. And then of course, I also have

36:08

a group on Vigyan Bhairav Tantra, this happens in India

36:12

every year. And through that group, I'm covering the 112

36:16

methods. And that takes place in three parts. So if you want to

36:22

do all the hundreds, well, you can come for three years in a

36:25

row. Otherwise, you can just do one of them just to have a taste

36:29

of Vigyan Bhairav Tantra.

36:32

Debra Pascali-Bonaro: And where can people learn about all of

36:35

this? Ma Ananda Sarita: Well, I have the Instagram account, Ma Ananda

36:39

Sarita. Facebook, Ma Ananda Sarita. Website,

36:43

anandasarita.com. It's really helpful. If you subscribe to my

36:47

newsletter, I have a regular newsletter that comes out on

36:51

multitudes of different subjects and you can even ask your

36:55

burning question. I can create a newsletter based on your

37:00

question if you desire. So you can say, I have a burning

37:04

question about this. I would really love a newsletter devoted

37:08

to this, and I can do that. So don't hesitate to send in your

37:12

questions. I'm always happy to answer them, whether that is

37:16

through a written message or to a newsletter. And yeah, I have a

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passion for tantra, spreading the good news and the wonderful

37:28

experience of tantra's throughout the world. Because I

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think this will then lead to coherence in our society, a

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wonderful society based on love, meditation, place, and it's

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easily attainable for people everywhere, because it's not

37:46

something you adding on top. It's a coming back home to who

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we are in our very innate essence.

37:53

Debra Pascali-Bonaro: Thank you so much, Sarita, I could stay

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all day, truly, with you and in your wisdom and love. I feel it

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so deeply in my heart. I thank you all who have joined us. We

38:08

hope that you will share this episode with friends and family.

38:12

We all need to come home to our love and our essence. We want to

38:19

hear from you. We always love for you to send us your

38:22

comments. What is your takeaway? What are you going to integrate

38:26

into your practice and your life? And we hope you'll join us

38:30

for our next episode of the Orgasmic Birth Podcast.