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I need to tell you about a

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magical battle. A Showdown.

1:00

Between. Two powerful experts in

1:02

the occult arts. The.

1:05

Combatants both identified as magicians,

1:07

but they were not to

1:09

be confused with purveyors of

1:12

stage allusions or masters of

1:14

sleight of hand. These.

1:17

Magicians practiced. Real.

1:19

Magic. This.

1:21

Was a magic drawn from

1:23

ancient systems of mystical knowledge.

1:26

They. Were not entertainers peddling

1:29

amusing tricks, Each. Man

1:31

was a scholar with deep

1:33

knowledge of the Arcane who

1:36

had honed his magical will

1:38

through hours of meditation and

1:40

solum ceremonies. These.

1:42

Men truly believed that they

1:45

could bend the laws of

1:47

nature, someone powerful spirits, and

1:50

imbue objects with magical properties.

1:53

Now you. Might assume that this

1:55

earnest magical battle must have taken

1:58

place in the far distance the

2:00

past. Surely these magicians were ancient

2:02

or medieval fellows living in a

2:05

time in a place when a

2:07

belief and magic was far more

2:09

common. But. She would

2:11

be wrong about that. This.

2:14

Particular battle took place right

2:16

at the dawn of the

2:18

twentieth century in the year

2:20

nineteen Hundred. The. Magical

2:22

combatants were none other

2:24

than the celebrated Irish

2:26

poet William Butler Yeats.

2:29

And the infamous a cultist

2:31

alister Crawley. The. Man eventually

2:33

dubbed the Wicked ist man in

2:36

the World by English newspapers. Both.

2:39

Men were members of a secret

2:41

society known as the Hermetic Order

2:44

of the Golden Dawn. The.

2:46

Group had originally been sounded in

2:48

London and Eighteen Eighty Eight and

2:51

was dedicated to the study of

2:53

occult knowledge and the development of

2:55

so called practical magic. Wb.

2:58

Yeats had been an early initiate

3:01

into this magical society. He had

3:03

risen through the ranks and by

3:05

nineteen hundred was one of the

3:07

elite few who claimed membership to

3:09

the exclusive second order of Add

3:12

apps. A. Designation only

3:14

conferred on the most

3:16

skilled and learned magicians.

3:19

The. Younger Alister Cruelly was a

3:21

relative newcomer to the society, but

3:24

in just a few years, he

3:26

had managed to move through the

3:29

various magical ranks of the Society's

3:31

first order with remarkable speed. even

3:34

though Cruelly was a more junior member

3:36

of the Golden Dawn. He

3:38

believed himself to be a

3:41

powerful magician whose skills had

3:43

surpassed is more highly ranked.

3:45

Brothers and Sisters. By.

3:48

The year nineteen hundred on the eve

3:51

of our battle. A. Schism had

3:53

developed in the Golden Dawn. And.

3:55

Cruelly and Gates found themselves on

3:57

different sides of the divide. Cruelly.

4:01

Was part of a group aligned

4:03

with one of the society's original

4:05

founders, an occult magician who called

4:08

himself Mcgregor Mathers. A

4:11

series of controversies and bombshell

4:13

allegations have rocked the very

4:15

foundation of this magical order.

4:18

In the tumbled, Mathers and a

4:21

small group of Loyalists had been

4:23

banned from the Golden Dawn's London

4:25

Temple. But. On

4:27

this particular night in nineteen

4:30

hundred, Alister cruelly was intent

4:32

on gaining access to this

4:34

holy sanctum. What?

4:37

Was Alister Crawlies goal

4:39

that night? Well, accounts

4:41

very. Some.

4:43

Of the more dramatic telling claim

4:46

that Crawley believes that he could

4:48

reclaim of the temple from a

4:50

group of magicians he believed were

4:52

traders. Other

4:54

versions claim that Cruelly was hunting

4:56

for some very specific documents pertaining

4:59

to the founding of the magical

5:01

society. It. Remains

5:03

unclear. Nap.

5:06

When we use the word

5:08

temple to describe this meeting

5:11

place where being pretty generous.

5:13

Far. From being a grand

5:16

monument to the occult, this

5:18

particular temple was actually just

5:20

a series of modest second

5:23

floor apartments located at Thirty

5:25

Six Blinds Road in London.

5:28

Today. If you visit Thirty

5:30

Six Blythe Road, you'll notice

5:32

that the ground floor is

5:34

occupied by an unpretentious English

5:36

breakfast place called Georges Cafe.

5:39

So. Yeah. The. Most

5:41

high profile magical duel

5:43

of the twentieth century

5:45

was. Actually, Fought

5:48

on the staircase above

5:50

Georges Cafe. Cruelly.

5:53

Arrived at Thirty Six Blinds

5:55

Road that night, decked out

5:57

in the equivalent of magical

5:59

armor. He was dressed in

6:01

a costume there was meant to make him

6:03

look like a chieftain from the Highlands of

6:05

Scotland. Significantly. He

6:08

was decked out in a

6:10

Mcgregor Tartan that had been

6:12

given magical protective properties by

6:14

his patron, Mcgregor Mathers. He

6:17

also carried a ceremonial Scottish

6:19

dagger or dirk that had

6:21

been similarly imbued with magical

6:23

power. One. Version

6:25

of the story even claims that

6:28

Crawley was wearing a mask meant

6:30

to look like the ancient Egyptian

6:32

god. Oh silence. Which.

6:34

If true, makes for a

6:36

wonderfully weird get up. A

6:39

Scottish tartan topped off with

6:41

an Egyptian mask. Nice. Other

6:45

versions I've read make mention of

6:47

a black mask, and others don't

6:49

make mention of any mask at

6:51

all. But. To I

6:53

like to imagine cruelly wearing the

6:55

mask of Oh Cyrus because if

6:57

you know my god, that's good.

7:01

Were. Told that some after Sundown

7:03

cruelly in his magical armor

7:05

barged through the front door

7:07

of the Temple, which led

7:10

to a staircase to the

7:12

second floor apartments. Hearing

7:14

the commotion wb, Yeats and the

7:17

other magicians who had been gathered

7:19

at the temple rushed to the

7:21

top of the stairs. There.

7:24

They suck: Rowley making the

7:26

sign of the inverted pentagram

7:29

with his hands and intoning

7:31

the syllables associated with powerful

7:33

and destructive spells. Yates.

7:36

And his crew quickly countered.

7:38

They cast their own spells

7:40

of protection and lobbed powerful

7:42

incantations back at cruelly as

7:44

he steadily made his way

7:46

up the stairs. Were.

7:49

Told that Cruelly Gates and

7:51

all the other magicians of

7:53

the Golden Dawn present used

7:55

every magical in vocation they

7:57

could in this battle. The

8:00

mental spirits of fire and

8:02

when the were called upon

8:04

angelic protectors were summoned from

8:06

the east or demonic famille

8:08

years were conjured from the

8:10

void. Curses. And

8:12

counter curses were hurled back and

8:14

forth. And. Yes, neither

8:17

Yates nor Karoly seems to

8:19

be affected by this magic.

8:22

No. Matter the curse, Yates could not

8:25

be moved. Nor. Could

8:27

crudely be stopped from a

8:29

sending the stairs. It's almost

8:31

as if. The magic.

8:33

Wasn't. Working. As.

8:36

Crawley neared the top of

8:38

the stairs, the Irish poet

8:40

unleashed one final devastating attacks.

8:43

Yates. Biographer Richard Ellman

8:45

described it like this:

8:48

quote. When. Cruel

8:50

he came within range, the forces

8:52

of good struck out with their

8:54

seat. And. Kicked him down the

8:56

stairs, And. Quote. Her:

8:59

yeah. realizing.

9:02

That his our team curses weren't

9:04

having much effect, Gates resorted to

9:07

the tried and true tactic of

9:09

taking his opponent upside the head.

9:12

Turns out Crawlies magical armor was

9:15

of little use when confronted with

9:17

a well timed kick to the

9:19

noggin. So.

9:21

Ended the magical dual known

9:24

as the Battle of Blaze

9:26

Road. Ever

9:28

since, there have been all sorts

9:30

of conflicting accounts of this quote

9:33

unquote battle. The. Version

9:35

I just gave you comes

9:37

largely from Gates biographer Richard

9:39

Elements. For. His part,

9:41

crawley never confirmed that

9:44

this confrontation ever happened.

9:47

In his autobiography or auto

9:49

hagiography as he dubbed it

9:51

home and when a guy.

9:54

Probably admits that he traveled to

9:56

London as an emissary for his

9:58

teacher, Mcgregor Man. What?

10:01

He does not mention this

10:03

particular embarrassing incident with Yates

10:06

on the staircase. But.

10:08

If there's ever been an

10:10

unreliable narrator, it's Alister Karoly.

10:13

We talk a lot about

10:15

lying. Sack switches on this

10:17

podcast Wealth: Alister Rowley might

10:19

be the first real lying

10:21

sex which we've ever recovered.

10:25

Calling this absurd little

10:27

tussle a battle is

10:29

kind of ridiculous. And.

10:32

Yet. It's fitting for the

10:34

members of the Hermetic Order of the

10:36

Golden Dawn. Key

10:38

to their whole endeavor was

10:41

a belief that every action

10:43

had a deeper significance. Nothing.

10:45

Was. Frivolous. After.

10:47

All an outsider might look

10:50

at a magical right performed

10:52

by members of the Hermetic

10:54

order, and might staff at

10:56

the elaborate costumes, the movie

10:59

set dressing, the magical talismans,

11:01

and the sonorous incantations. An.

11:04

Outsider might think that the whole thing

11:06

was is ridiculous and absurd as the

11:08

Battle of Blaze Road. But.

11:11

The initiated knew that the

11:13

opposite was true. What?

11:16

Might seem like a veins

11:18

yeah, Tricks were actually reality

11:21

bending observances which could make

11:23

a human being. More.

11:25

Like a got. The.

11:28

Members of the Hermetic Order

11:30

of the Golden Dawn believed

11:32

themselves to be the custodians

11:34

of a secret knowledge and

11:36

by extension. A. Secret History.

11:39

But. Was this secret history?

11:42

just another fake history?

11:46

What? Was this strange secret society?

11:48

Why did it thrive in

11:50

the eighteen nineties, only to

11:52

flame out dramatically in the

11:54

early twentieth century? How.

11:56

Did it get to the point where former.

11:59

Magical bird. Others found themselves

12:01

fighting on the stairs above

12:04

Georges Cafe. Let's.

12:06

Put it all together to day

12:08

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12:40

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this week we are headed

14:46

to London in the late

14:49

nineteenth century to explore the

14:51

often miss understood world of

14:53

the occult. The

14:56

word a Colts carries all

14:58

sorts of negative and ghoulish

15:01

connotations. It's often associated with

15:03

dark and malevolent forces. Vehicles.

15:07

Is popularly lumped in with

15:09

things like witchcraft, devil worship,

15:11

Black Magic, and Contact with

15:14

The Restless Dead. If.

15:17

You're old enough that you

15:19

might remember that some music

15:21

video for Michael Jackson's Thriller

15:23

started out with a disclaimer

15:26

from the artist informing us

15:28

that the horror movie inspired

15:30

clip quote. In no

15:32

way endorses a belief in the

15:34

occult and quote. So.

15:37

You might be forgiven for

15:39

assuming that the occult was

15:42

all about where wolves, dancing,

15:44

zombies and the sons of

15:46

Forty Thousand years. But.

15:49

The word occult more precisely

15:52

refers to something that is

15:54

hidden or whose origin is

15:56

obscure. For. Instance In

15:58

medicine the word a call is

16:00

still used in that sense as

16:03

the in an occult tumor a

16:05

cancer where the original or primary

16:07

tumor cannot be sound. As.

16:10

Such occultists are interested

16:13

in hidden aspects of

16:15

reality. The. Expert

16:17

Alexandra Oh and has explained that

16:20

in the nineteenth century quote. Occultism

16:23

was generally understood to refer

16:25

to the study of. Or.

16:27

Search for a hidden or

16:29

veiled reality and the our

16:32

teens' secrets of existence and

16:34

quote. This.

16:36

Search for our Team secrets

16:39

was also usually paired with

16:41

an interest in mystical spiritual

16:43

experiences. What? Makes

16:46

something a mystical experience.

16:48

Well. Once again, Alexandra Owen

16:50

explains that it refers to

16:53

quote an immediate experience of

16:55

oneness with had divinity. An.

16:57

Experience that could be perceived

16:59

as a divine gift. And

17:02

quote. So.

17:04

Traditionally, occultists were more

17:06

interested in mind expanding

17:09

philosophies and ecstatic religious

17:11

experiences. Then they were

17:13

spooks and ghouls. Now.

17:16

It's been argued that a type

17:18

of a seeking has been around

17:21

for millennia. The. So called

17:23

mystery religions of the Ancient

17:25

Mediterranean involved initiates taking part

17:27

in secret rituals that they

17:30

were sworn to never disclose.

17:33

As. The name suggests mystery

17:35

religions gave their initiates

17:37

access to sacred mysteries.

17:40

That. Is religious teachings that are

17:42

only accessible to those who have

17:44

been through the ordeal of initiation?

17:48

The promise of the mystery

17:50

religions was a deeper, more

17:52

intense, mystical relationship with the

17:55

deity they worshiped. In.

17:58

The nineteenth century interest. The

18:00

in this type of spiritual

18:02

experience came roaring back, especially

18:04

in the Uk. In.

18:07

Many ways this was a

18:09

revival of a revival. A.

18:12

Few centuries earlier during the Renaissance

18:14

or the early modern era if

18:16

you prefer. European. Scholars,

18:19

We're translating previously rare or

18:21

inaccessible ancient texts with a

18:23

new zeal. The

18:26

dialogues written by the same

18:28

is Greek philosopher Plato were

18:30

revived as essential reading. And

18:33

with that team a renewed

18:35

interest in a whole body

18:37

of Plato inspired philosophy known

18:40

as Neoplatonist Them. Along.

18:42

With this team and interest

18:45

in other obscure or last

18:47

compendiums of ancient wisdom. Among

18:50

these were a collection of texts

18:53

known as the Her Medica. This

18:57

was a collection of

18:59

mystical, philosophical and magical

19:01

treatises attributed to figure

19:03

known as Hermes Prisma

19:06

Justice. Of the

19:08

thrice great: Hermes. In

19:11

the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries, European

19:14

scholars considered the writings of Hermes

19:16

Prisma just as to be among

19:18

the most important pieces of wisdom

19:21

literature ever written. In

19:23

Fourteen Sixty Two, the Florentine scribe

19:26

more silly have seen else, was

19:28

hard at work translating the recently

19:30

acquired works of Plato. So his

19:33

patron, the famous Cawsey Modi me

19:35

did sheath could read them before

19:37

he died. But. Then

19:39

in that year he came

19:42

across a previously unknown sets

19:44

of homies writings. So.

19:47

He dropped everything, put his

19:49

translations of Plato on hold,

19:51

and got to work translating

19:53

what became known as the

19:55

corpus Her Medical. It

19:58

was believed that this for

20:00

me the charisma. Guess this

20:02

was a very ancient figure,

20:04

considerably older than Plato. And.

20:07

Accordingly, considerably more a sage

20:09

and possessed of a deeper

20:11

wisdom. When. It

20:14

comes to wisdom literature, The rule

20:16

of thumb has always been the

20:18

older, the better. So.

20:21

In the fifteenth century,

20:23

Homies was arguably more

20:25

important than Plato. The.

20:28

Widely held belief was that

20:30

Hermes Prisma just as had

20:33

been a contemporary of Moses.

20:35

Or. He may have even

20:38

lived before the biblical flood. He.

20:40

Was certainly associated with the

20:43

Greek god Hermes. hence the

20:45

name. But. He was

20:47

also connected to the Egyptian god

20:49

Soaks. The. Ibis had a

20:52

deity associated with art, science,

20:54

writing, and magic. Was.

20:57

This Hermes Prisma? Guess

20:59

this the avatar of

21:02

these gods or a

21:04

great ancient philosopher who

21:06

inspired the mythology of

21:08

both Hermes and folks.

21:11

It was unclear to the

21:13

fifteenth century translators. But.

21:16

Most experts agreed that Hermes

21:18

Prisma guess this was clearly

21:21

one of humanity's greatest teachers.

21:24

The. World of Philosophy that grew

21:27

out of these revive texts

21:29

became known as the Hermetic

21:31

Tradition. Hermetic coming

21:33

from Hermes. Of

21:36

the many magical and mystical

21:38

ideas that were associated with

21:41

the Hermetic tradition, the most

21:43

enduring was a concept known

21:45

as the Priests Gas Fuel

21:47

Load Year or the Ancient

21:49

Theology. This. Was

21:52

a belief that there

21:54

was one original divine

21:56

truths imparted near the

21:58

beginning of time. To

22:00

Hermes and a handful of

22:03

other great sieges. This.

22:06

Truth has informed all

22:08

of the world's religions

22:10

and philosophies. But. In

22:12

each case, it had been communicated

22:15

in a deluded and imperfect way.

22:18

Be. Pure and diluted truth. The

22:20

priests guess the a load

22:22

yeah had become. Of

22:24

Colts. Hidden. From

22:26

all but the most dedicated

22:28

seekers. However,

22:31

the Hermetic tradition took a real

22:33

a hit in the seventeen hundreds.

22:36

As the Hermetic texts became the

22:39

focus of more rigorous scholarship,

22:41

it became clear that they were

22:43

not nearly as ancient as the

22:46

Hermetic A D votes he's

22:48

had been claiming. The.

22:50

Best evidence seemed to suggest

22:52

that the writings of homies

22:54

trisomy guess this had been

22:57

penned sometime around the first

22:59

century's a d by handful

23:01

of anonymous Greek speaking authors,

23:03

likely from the Egyptian city

23:05

of Alexandria. The

23:07

combination of Platonic, Jewish,

23:10

and Egyptian traditions evident

23:12

in the texts really

23:14

spoke to that particular

23:16

time and place. The

23:19

combined worship of Hermes and

23:21

So's as a singular deity

23:23

was also com and in

23:25

Hellenistic Egypt dating to the

23:28

time of the Ptolemaic kings.

23:31

So. Hermes: Prisma Guess

23:33

this was likely a pen

23:36

name for a group of

23:38

writers who are writing centuries

23:40

after Plato. This.

23:43

Alleged super ancient text

23:46

was actually just. Trying

23:48

the ancient. All.

23:51

The stories about Hermes transmit

23:53

just as from before the

23:55

flood. Well. Many.

23:57

Now judge to that to be

23:59

sake his. This.

24:02

Would prove to be a

24:04

perennial problem in a cold

24:07

circles. Texts assumed

24:09

to be ancient fonts

24:11

of wisdom. Would. Be

24:13

exposed as considerably more

24:16

recent creations. Or. Worse.

24:19

Modern. Forgeries. Similarly,

24:22

Great A colts teachers

24:24

who claimed to have

24:26

supernatural powers and contact

24:28

with ancient sieges were

24:30

often exposed as charlatans.

24:34

A cult. Hidden histories

24:36

are often just fake

24:38

histories. But.

24:41

The Hermetic tradition did not

24:43

die so much as it

24:45

went underground. In

24:47

the seventeenth century, the idea of

24:50

the priests gusty a load yeah

24:52

was taken up by the freemason

24:54

adjacent society known as the Ross

24:57

A Crew Since. Ross.

24:59

A crucial in literature that

25:01

emerged in the sixteen hundreds

25:04

advocated a type of Christian

25:06

mysticism that was deeply inspired

25:08

by the her medica. Know.

25:12

The raw secretions had their own

25:14

robust mythology that I'm sure I

25:16

will explore in greater detail one

25:18

day. But. For

25:21

now, what you need to

25:23

know is that Ross Extrusion

25:25

ideas were incorporated into some

25:27

branches of the Freemason movement.

25:30

This. Meant that Mason's were

25:32

getting exposed to the

25:34

Hermetic tradition and other

25:36

occult ideas. This

25:39

continued into the Victorian

25:41

age when mystically inclined

25:44

freemasons sound fertile ground

25:46

to develop new and

25:48

more adventurous esoteric societies.

25:53

In eighteen eighty eight, three

25:55

freemasons living in London would

25:57

claim that they'd come into

25:59

possession. Of so mysterious

26:01

texts. The. Discovery

26:03

and decoding of these documents

26:05

would lead to the foundation

26:07

of the Hermetic Order of

26:09

the Golden Dawn. Arguably

26:12

one of the most influential

26:14

magical societies in history. So

26:18

let's head to London and

26:20

the eighteen eighties to explore

26:22

exactly how and why a

26:24

society of sincere magicians was

26:26

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In eighteen eighty eight

28:55

two men acquainted to through

28:57

their Freemason Temple Wt

28:59

Wescott and Samuel Little

29:01

Mathers got together to examine

29:04

some remarkable manuscripts that

29:06

it just come into

29:08

Westcott possession. On.

29:10

Top of being active freemasons,

29:12

these two men were also

29:14

part of England's best known

29:17

Ross A Crucial society, the

29:19

Society Us roster Cristiana in

29:21

Anglia. As. Such

29:23

these two fellows had been dabbling

29:26

in mysticism and the Christian flavored

29:28

a cult. studies there was characteristic

29:30

of the are Chosen a secret

29:33

society. Aside

29:35

from these fairly exotic interests,

29:38

Wescott was, and otherwise, typical

29:40

Victorian gentleman who worked as

29:43

a coroner in London. Mathers.

29:47

Was. Something. Else. Having

29:50

come from a hardscrabble background

29:52

and burned, Miss Mathers moved

29:54

to London and the eighteen

29:56

eighties and proceeded to completely

29:58

reinvent himself. He

30:00

rechristened himself Mcgregor Mathers and

30:03

claim that he was in

30:05

fact a dispossessed Scottish nobleman

30:07

whose family had been part

30:10

of the Jacobite rebellion a

30:12

century earlier. He.

30:14

Even claimed that one of his

30:16

august ancestors had been made account

30:19

by King Louis the Fifteenth of

30:21

France, a title that he mcgregor

30:24

Mathers now held. Was.

30:27

Any of this true. No.

30:29

Probably not. But. Mcgregor

30:32

seem to understand the value

30:34

of ancient provenance and a

30:36

storied heritage. But.

30:39

By Eighteen Eighty Eight, he had

30:41

gained a reputation in London as

30:44

an occult researcher have some accomplishment.

30:47

A year earlier, he published

30:49

a well received translation of

30:51

the seventeenth century mystical text

30:53

known as the Kabbalah Daddy

30:56

Daughter. Kabbalah,

30:58

Which is a centuries old

31:00

Jewish mystical system and philosophy

31:02

form the backbone of much

31:04

of nineteenth century occult study.

31:07

Specifically. Occultists like

31:09

Mcgregor Mathers gravitated towards a

31:11

concept in Kabbalah known as

31:14

the Tree of Life. The

31:17

Tree of Life is a

31:19

diagram illustrating the various realms

31:21

of existence from the most

31:23

basic human level of perception.

31:26

All. The way up to the

31:28

experience of God. Mcgregor.

31:31

Mathers and others who had

31:33

become interested in ceremonial magic

31:35

believed that Kabbalah offered a

31:38

pass for gaming supernatural powers,

31:41

By. Ascending of tree of

31:43

life. You could become like

31:45

God yourself. Or

31:48

so said the occultists. So.

31:51

When Wt Wescott came into possession

31:53

of some unusual manuscripts, he reached

31:55

out to Mathers, a man he

31:58

knew the to be a bit

32:00

of an expert when it came

32:02

to obscure mystical texts. Now.

32:05

The question of exactly how Wescott

32:08

came into possession of these papers

32:10

is a matter of some controversy.

32:14

According to the occult author

32:16

Israel to regard. Their. Or

32:18

at least three stories about how

32:20

Westcott got his hands on these

32:23

documents. One. Story claims

32:25

that he simply came across them

32:27

while perusing a bookstore on Farrington

32:30

Street in London. Another

32:32

story claims that Westcott inherited

32:34

the personal library of a

32:36

fellow mason, in which he

32:38

found these documents. But.

32:41

The story that's most often

32:43

cited is that these documents

32:46

were passed to Westcott from

32:48

an elderly mason named Reverend

32:50

A. F. A. Woodford. Woodford

32:53

claimed to have rescued the

32:55

documents from Masonic library. After

32:57

looking them over, he believed

33:00

that they might be German

33:02

Ross, A crucial texts filled

33:04

with ancient wisdom and magical

33:06

lore. The. Only problem

33:08

was that they were written

33:10

in a strange safer. Woodford.

33:14

Could not crack this code

33:16

so he passed the papers

33:18

on to Wescott. Luckily.

33:22

Wescott was an expert when it came

33:24

to secret codes. Especially

33:26

secret codes that made reference

33:28

to a cold literature. He.

33:32

Discovered that the code was from

33:34

a sixteenth century French Alchemy text

33:36

that of course he had read.

33:39

With. The help of Mcgregor Mathers,

33:41

the too soon discovered that

33:44

the text contained instructions for

33:46

a number of magical rituals.

33:48

The. Texts also referenced the

33:51

quote Unquote Brothers and

33:53

Sisters of a German

33:55

secret society known as

33:57

the Golden Dawn. Finally

34:00

and most exciting have all. These.

34:03

Papers provided an address for one

34:05

for our Linus but Angle. And.

34:08

Add apt in this German

34:10

order. So. Was.

34:13

Wrote this throw line springle

34:15

a letter asking for guidance

34:17

and with the sincere hope

34:19

that he and Mathers might

34:21

get permission to found their

34:23

own Temple of the Golden

34:25

Dawn in London. Amazingly,

34:28

Ms. Sprang all wrote

34:30

back. From. One

34:33

sprinkle wasn't just any old

34:35

woman living in Germany. She.

34:37

Was a powerful

34:39

magician possessing remarkable

34:41

supernatural powers. Further,

34:45

She. Was in contact with

34:47

a group of individuals even

34:49

more powerful than herself? These.

34:52

Were the true founders of the

34:55

Golden dawn? They. Were

34:57

magical add apps possibly

34:59

hundreds of years old

35:01

who threw deep study

35:03

had attained nearly godlike

35:05

abilities. However,

35:08

These. Sages kept their identities

35:10

secret and chose instead to

35:12

quietly and carefully share their

35:14

wisdom with the select few

35:16

who demonstrated that they were

35:18

worthy. Was. Caught

35:21

and Mathers would only ever

35:23

refer to these powerful mysterious

35:26

sages as the secret

35:28

Chiefs of the Golden

35:30

Dawn. But.

35:35

Throw line Springle clearly liked the

35:37

tone of West Cuts Letter. Because.

35:39

She gave her blessing for

35:42

hims and mathers to found

35:44

a London chapter of the

35:46

Society and to use the

35:48

rituals prescribed in the encoded

35:50

documents. So

35:52

it was that in Eighteen

35:55

Eighty Eight, the Isis Uranium

35:57

Temple of the Hermetic Order

35:59

of the Go Dawn was

36:01

founded in London. Now.

36:06

If. That story seems convoluted.

36:09

Well. That's. Kind of the

36:11

point. Occultism is

36:13

defined by a search

36:15

for clues. These.

36:17

Clues take you on a winding,

36:19

sometimes confusing pass, but if you

36:22

stick with it, You. Will

36:24

eventually be rewarded with

36:26

profound discoveries. To.

36:28

Curious gentlemen are passed an

36:31

obscure manuscript that needs to

36:33

be decoded that gives them

36:35

an address that introduces them

36:37

to a German woman who

36:39

finally gives them the big

36:41

revelation. That. Secret Wizards have a

36:43

cool magical clubs. Did they get to

36:46

be part of? Now.

36:49

Long time listeners might find some

36:51

elements of this story a little

36:53

familiar. Way. Back in

36:56

season two, we did a three

36:58

part series called who Was the

37:00

Mother of the Occult where we

37:02

explored Madam So Annabelle of Ascii

37:04

and her steel saw fickle society.

37:07

As you might remember, madam beloved

37:10

Ascii claimed that all her mystical

37:12

knowledge came from a group of

37:15

super powerful sages known as the

37:17

Mahatma Us or the Ascended Masters

37:19

that she had met deep in

37:22

the Himalayas while she was hiking

37:24

in Tibet. Chief.

37:26

Among these ascended masters was

37:29

a fellow named queued who

37:31

me. Who. Blew of Ascii

37:33

claimed to be in telepathic communication

37:35

with. Now. If

37:37

you want to get deep into what

37:39

Boulevard Ski did with all this information

37:41

and the history of the Csr fists

37:44

them, please check out that series from

37:46

season two. I. Bring

37:48

this up because Helen above

37:50

Ascii was a contemporary of

37:52

Mathers and Wescott. They.

37:54

All knew each other and ran in

37:57

the same circles. One.

37:59

Source: When claims that will that's

38:01

approached Mcgregor Mathers to take on

38:04

a leading role in the Csr

38:06

fickle society during it's early days.

38:08

Now. The truth of that is debated,

38:11

but it seems very clear that

38:13

Mathers and Wescott had the see

38:15

a saw fickle society in mind

38:17

when they founded there for medic

38:19

order of the Golden Dawn. It's.

38:22

Notable. That. They had

38:24

similar origin stories. The.

38:27

Authenticity of these organizations

38:30

were underpinned by contact

38:32

with Secret Chiefs super

38:34

powerful mystical figures operating

38:37

at an arm's length

38:39

distance from the actual

38:41

group. But.

38:44

What made the Hermetic Order of

38:46

the Golden Dawn and different from

38:48

the see a sauce Ucl Society

38:50

was it's focus on what was

38:52

called practical magic. You.

38:55

See, While Madam Bowl of Ascii

38:57

claimed to have all sorts of

39:00

supernatural abilities, she wasn't really in

39:02

the business of teaching others how

39:04

to become a magical. The

39:08

also fi was more philosophical in

39:10

nature. as it develops, it became

39:12

increasingly influenced by Buddhism to the

39:14

point where blow vast he was

39:17

saying and public that she was

39:19

basically a buddhist. Some.

39:21

Of those who are attracted to

39:23

the hermetic order of the Golden

39:25

Dawn where folks like the Irish

39:27

poet Wb Yeats, who had been

39:30

see a saw Fists but had

39:32

become frustrated with the fact that

39:34

Boulevard Ski seem to be the

39:36

only one who was allowed to

39:38

do magic. The. Promise

39:40

of the hermetic Order of the Golden

39:42

Dawn. Was. That in this

39:44

society. The. Initiated would learn

39:47

how to do real

39:49

magic. To. That

39:51

and Mathers and Wescott developed

39:53

a unique synthesis of many

39:56

different occult traditions that were

39:58

floating around Victorians. The Id.

40:01

Number of. Course, they claimed that

40:04

this system was not just their

40:06

invention. it was communicated to them

40:08

by Frau Line Strangle who in

40:10

turn got the goods from the

40:12

Secret Chiefs. At

40:15

the heart of the Golden

40:17

Dawn teachings where the writings

40:19

of Hermes Prisma Gustus hence

40:21

the name Hermetic in the

40:23

organizations title. The.

40:26

Magic being taught was first

40:28

and foremost the quote unquote

40:30

Magic of Homies. This.

40:34

Was then combined with the

40:36

Jewish Kabbalah tradition. The. Kaaba

40:38

listed tree of Life was adapted

40:40

by the Hermetic order of the

40:42

Golden Dawn to give ones magical

40:45

progress a sense of structure. As.

40:48

One became a more powerful magician.

40:50

You are thought to be ascending

40:52

through the tree of life. This.

40:56

Was then supplemented with a

40:58

healthy dose of ancient Egyptian

41:00

inspired ritual. In.

41:03

The eighteen eighties Egyptology was having

41:05

a bit of a moments in

41:07

Britain. British. Archaeologist swear

41:09

creating more and more ancient

41:11

Egyptian artifacts back to London

41:13

every day. And the

41:15

accompanying scholarship was casting new load

41:18

on the Ancient Egyptian kingdoms. Mathers

41:21

was especially interested in this, and

41:23

was known to spend hours in

41:26

the reading room of the British

41:28

Museum poring over newly published work

41:30

on Ancient Egyptian religion. As

41:33

such, the initiation ceremonies developed

41:36

by the Golden Dawn borrowed

41:38

heavily from Egyptian rights described

41:41

by late nineteenth century archaeologists.

41:45

These. Rights were then flavored by

41:47

the types of initiation ceremonies

41:50

com and in May Sonic

41:52

Temples and the mystically inclined

41:54

ross a crucial temples. Finally,

41:57

the Golden Dawn also incorporate.

42:00

Would they understood to be

42:02

pagan Celtic magic? Now.

42:05

This was, and especially

42:07

a historical and romanticized

42:10

version of pagan Celtic

42:12

magic. Mcgregor Mathers in

42:14

particular, became convinced that

42:17

various Scottish tartans had

42:19

latent magical powers associated

42:21

with them. Now.

42:25

If this seems like a

42:27

fairly in Congress mishmash of

42:29

traditions, you're not wrong. But.

42:32

It was connected to the idea

42:34

of the press gas feel low

42:36

jia. The. Idea that all

42:38

of the world's religions and

42:40

wisdom traditions came from the

42:43

same route. A divine

42:45

truth at the heart of

42:47

everything. As. Such

42:50

com and between all these

42:52

traditions were emphasized and were

42:54

pointed out as evidence of

42:57

the Preska Theologian. The

43:00

Golden Dawn taught that through focus studies

43:03

and initiate could gain a deep insight

43:05

into the human condition and the secret

43:07

workings of the natural world. This

43:10

deep understanding would give

43:12

a focused magician the

43:14

ability to change the

43:16

natural world. These

43:19

changes would be small at

43:21

first, but would become more

43:23

profound as the magicians power

43:25

grew. The. Ultimate

43:28

goal of a magician in

43:30

this order. Was. To

43:32

become immortal. To. Discover

43:34

the so called Philosophers

43:37

Stone. But. It

43:39

was generally recognized that that would be

43:41

out of reach for most people on

43:44

the path. As

43:46

far as Westcott and Mathers

43:48

New, only the secret Chiefs

43:50

had ever managed to achieve

43:52

the school. However,

43:54

it was believed that through the

43:56

correct application of ritual magic and

43:59

into v. The war could

44:01

become clairvoyant and clear audience

44:03

that is to see and

44:05

hear things happening far away

44:07

or even at different times

44:09

in the past or future.

44:12

A. Talented magician could use

44:15

rituals to become invisible

44:17

or appear luminous. The.

44:19

Golden Dawn initiates also believed that there

44:22

was a hidden world of spirits that

44:24

could be summoned. And. Sometimes put

44:26

to work. Different

44:28

rituals could conjure so called

44:31

elemental say that is spirits

44:33

associated with earth, wind, fire

44:36

and water. Other

44:38

rituals could connect a magician with

44:40

a powerful Dd. Usually.

44:43

These were Egyptian gods. As

44:46

the years went on, Mcgregor

44:48

Mathers became particularly interested in

44:51

the creation of magical talismans.

44:53

This involved in woking a

44:55

powerful spirit or Egyptian deity

44:57

and then m viewing a

44:59

chosen object be at an

45:01

amulet, a wand of these,

45:04

or a mask with the

45:06

power of that conjured spirit.

45:09

By. The turn of the century,

45:11

some of these Golden Dawn magicians

45:14

had accrued quite a collection of

45:16

powerful talismans. But.

45:19

The thing about ritual magic

45:21

is that it was difficult

45:23

to do and often didn't

45:25

work. It. Was understood

45:27

by initiates that it took

45:30

years of study and the

45:32

long cultivation of both a

45:34

magical will and a magical

45:36

imagination to actually do any

45:38

of this stuff. Now.

45:41

One of the defining characteristics

45:43

of the Hermetic Order of

45:45

the Golden Dawn was it's

45:48

rigid hierarchical structure. Did.

45:50

I say read that time. I think I said

45:52

read that up. There.

45:54

Were three orders of

45:56

the organization. First

45:58

being the lowest. The third

46:00

being the highest. Each.

46:03

Of these orders was then

46:05

subdivided into various ranks. There.

46:08

Were five ranks in the first order,

46:10

three in the second and three and

46:12

the third. Each

46:14

of these ranks corresponded to

46:16

one of the eleven levels

46:18

on the Pta. ballistic Free

46:21

of Life. Now.

46:24

In. Practice: This kind of worked

46:26

like a suburban karate dojo. Everyone.

46:29

Started as a neophyte, the

46:31

first level of the first

46:33

order and then worked their

46:35

way up. And. Just

46:38

like a karate dojo. Every time

46:40

you ascended you got to where

46:42

undo color. In

46:45

the Karate dojo, your yellow belt

46:47

might become a greenbelt. In

46:50

the Hermetic Order of the

46:52

Golden Dawn, your long black

46:55

ceremonial robes might be exchanged

46:57

for a blue ceremonial robes.

47:00

When. You were first initiated. you

47:02

got to choose a magical

47:04

name. This was usually a

47:07

latin phrase that had some sort

47:09

of connection to a call learning.

47:12

Once. You hit a certain milestones,

47:14

you are allowed to choose a new

47:16

magical name. To. Give

47:18

you a sense of what

47:20

these names were like. The

47:23

poet wb Yeats was initiated

47:25

as Dame en este de

47:27

Us in Versus or the

47:29

Devil is God inverted. In

47:33

order to level up and initiate needed

47:35

to pass an exam that was in

47:37

vigil aided by a more superior member

47:40

of the order. So.

47:42

In the early levels of the

47:44

first order, there wasn't a lot

47:47

of practical magic going down. Was

47:50

all about working your way through

47:52

a prescribed reading list, memorizing the

47:54

Hebrew terms associated with the tree

47:57

of life and demonstrating a mastery

47:59

of. The Sick, A cold

48:01

terminology. There. Was

48:03

homework and only people who did

48:05

their homework got to move on

48:07

to the next level. And

48:10

practice, This meant the by the

48:12

time you are engaged in rituals

48:15

that we're supposed to produce a

48:17

real magical affect, you are already

48:19

pretty invested. You. To read

48:21

a bunch of books. You'd

48:23

spend hours studying for exams,

48:25

and you'd been through multiple

48:27

initiation and ascension rituals. You

48:30

were primed for a

48:32

magical experience. But.

48:36

An interesting thing about this

48:38

internal structure was that no

48:40

one was in the third

48:42

order. The. Third

48:44

order was for the secret

48:47

chiefs only. As.

48:49

First Mathers and Westcott

48:51

only claimed the rank

48:53

of adept. His minor.

48:55

Which. Was the first rank in

48:57

the second order. So.

49:00

At first, all of the initiates we're

49:03

just trying to get to that second

49:05

order. Because. That's where the

49:07

real magic went down and no one was

49:09

in the third order yet To be a

49:11

secret? Chiefs are just forget about it. So.

49:16

This is all the say that the

49:19

Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was

49:21

a complicated. But deeply. Theatrical

49:23

Secret Society. There.

49:26

Was a lot to learn if

49:28

you were serious about becoming a

49:30

magician. But. Along the way,

49:32

your journey towards the top of

49:34

the tree of life was punctuated.

49:37

By. Some pretty wild rituals

49:39

that involved elaborate costumes,

49:42

magical talismans metaphorically deaths

49:44

and rebirths, and the

49:47

demonstrations of practical magic.

49:49

By. Some of the orders more

49:51

senior members. So.

49:55

Who. Exactly was drawn to the

49:57

hermetic order of the Golden Dawn.

50:00

How did the cipher work of

50:02

Westcott in Mathers eventually attract a

50:04

fairly vibrant community of a cold

50:07

seekers? Then. Why

50:09

after ten years of magic, is

50:11

it all fall apart? Well

50:14

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50:16

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Understand the hermetic order of the

53:15

Golden Dawn. I think you need

53:18

to understand exactly how the wider

53:20

world of the occult sit in

53:22

too Late Victorian society. The.

53:25

Revival of a cult study in

53:27

the nineteenth century? What hand in

53:30

hand with a number of

53:32

philosophical, intellectual and spiritual currents running

53:34

through Western culture at the time.

53:38

This. Was an era marked

53:40

by huge technological changes

53:42

and revolutionary scientific breakthroughs.

53:45

Traditional. Explanation for the world

53:47

and humanities place within its were

53:50

increasingly being challenged by new discoveries

53:52

being made by science. The.

53:55

Most jarring example arguably was

53:57

the work of Charles Darwin.

54:00

That confronted people with a

54:02

new way of thinking about

54:04

the origins of all animal

54:06

life and by extension human

54:08

beings. The. Universe

54:10

was being d mystified by

54:13

an increasingly empirical and scientific

54:15

worldview. While. Some

54:17

Victorians cheered these changes,

54:20

others were less enthused.

54:23

This. Created what many experts

54:25

have called the Quote Unquote

54:28

Victorian Crisis of Faith. The.

54:31

Writer Genie James has pointed out

54:34

that this on moored feeling that

54:36

accompanied the widespread questioning of

54:38

age old religious dogmas was beautifully

54:41

expressed by the British poet

54:43

Matthew Arnold. In. The

54:45

eighteen Sixty Seven poem Dover

54:47

Beach Arnold wrote quote. The.

54:50

Sea of face was once to

54:52

at the full and round earth

54:54

shore lay like folds of a

54:56

break girdle for old. But.

54:58

Now I only hear

55:01

it's melancholy along with

55:03

drawing or roar. And

55:05

quote. But.

55:07

If the sea of face

55:10

was withdrawing. It. Was not

55:12

without the accompanying reactions and

55:14

counter reactions. Perhaps that was

55:17

of the roar Arnold was

55:19

writing about. One.

55:22

Of those reactions has come

55:24

up many times before on

55:26

this podcast. And that

55:28

was spiritualists. This.

55:30

Was the popular practice of attempting

55:33

to contact the spirits of the

55:35

dead through mediums say on says

55:37

and other rituals. You.

55:40

Might remember from our series

55:42

on Houdini how the same

55:44

as stage magician went on

55:46

a personal quest to discredit

55:48

and debunk the spiritualists mediums

55:50

he believed were scamming bereaved

55:52

families. Now. Many

55:55

of the people who would eventually

55:57

get involved with the Golden Dawn

55:59

had been deeply curious about spiritual

56:01

Isn't. We. Know

56:04

that Wb Yeats state involved

56:06

in Say Answers and other

56:08

so called psychical experiments even

56:10

after joining the Golden Dawn.

56:13

But. While members of the

56:15

Golden Dawn and other similarly

56:17

aligned occultists accepted the reality

56:20

of spiritual forces at work

56:22

in the world. They.

56:24

Generally looked down

56:26

on spiritualist mediums.

56:29

One. Of the ideas that

56:31

animated spiritual ism was that

56:34

certain individuals were born with

56:36

a gift or a sensitivity

56:38

that allowed them to communicate

56:40

with the spirit world. Anyone

56:43

could be a medium if they

56:45

possessed this gift. Or so. When's

56:47

the think? it. People.

56:50

Interested in a cult

56:52

Magic saw this as

56:54

amateurish and chaotic. The.

56:57

Occultists believed that the spiritualists

56:59

kidneys or control nor understand

57:01

the forces that they were

57:04

engaging with. Magicians.

57:07

On the other hand, worse dollars

57:09

of the Arcane. They.

57:12

Weren't interested in simply experiencing

57:14

ghostly phenomenon any one to

57:16

do that. They

57:18

were interested in understanding,

57:21

directing and controlling this

57:23

phenomena. They. Wanted to

57:26

impose their will on nature.

57:29

Historian Alexandra Oh and has pointed

57:32

out that in this way the

57:34

Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn

57:36

represented a synthesis of to currents

57:39

in Victorian society usually presented as

57:41

being opposed to one another. On.

57:44

The one hand magic and a

57:47

study was filling a spiritual void

57:49

left by the withdraw of D

57:51

C of face. On

57:53

the other hand, the

57:56

magicians. We're approaching magic

57:58

like scientists. The. You. Referred

58:00

to what they were doing as

58:02

an occult science. They.

58:05

Believed in ghosts and other

58:07

spiritual entities. But the.

58:09

Magician's insisted that all

58:12

of this phenomena could

58:14

be rationally categorized, mapped,

58:16

and then manipulated. You.

58:19

Had to go to school for this stuff. A

58:21

magical ritual was all about

58:23

be precise arrangement of symbols,

58:26

sounds and gestures and had

58:28

to be done with precision

58:30

of a scientific experiment. For.

58:33

These magicians creating magic was

58:35

like synthesizing a chemical compound.

58:37

If you didn't follow the

58:39

correct procedure or use the

58:42

correct ingredients, it might not

58:44

work. To

58:46

me, it seems like they had

58:48

the heads of rational, science minded

58:50

Victorians and the hearts of some

58:53

of the more whimsical spiritualists. Alexandra.

58:56

One has also pointed out

58:59

that a cult magicians also

59:01

embraced a tape of individualism

59:03

that was common to middle

59:05

class bourgeois folks of the

59:07

age. She. Writes that

59:09

The Golden Dawn quote. Taught.

59:13

Complete mastery of a complex

59:15

magical our corner together with

59:17

total self mastery and in

59:20

indomitable will or the foremost

59:22

prerequisites for magical adept ship.

59:25

Self. Mastery, self assertion,

59:27

and control of nature

59:29

are familiar features of

59:31

a bourgeois individualism usually

59:33

associated with the nineteenth

59:35

century. And. Quote. In.

59:39

Other words, these would be

59:41

wizards were the magical extension

59:43

of the bourgeois Victorian self

59:46

made man. Or.

59:48

As the case may be, self

59:51

made woman. You

59:53

see unique feature of the Hermetic Order

59:55

of the Golden Dawn was that women

59:58

were welcome. The. Go. The

1:00:00

Dawn may have grown out

1:00:02

of the men's club of

1:00:04

Freemasonry, but this new magical

1:00:07

order was emphatically coed. Not.

1:00:09

Only could women become initiates. They

1:00:12

could rise to the very top

1:00:14

of the orders magical hierarchy. As.

1:00:17

The Eighteen eighties became the Eighty

1:00:19

Nineties and membership of the Golden

1:00:21

Dawn started to steadily grow. Nearly.

1:00:24

As many women were initiated

1:00:26

as men. By. The

1:00:28

turn of the centuries and number

1:00:30

of women like the London stage

1:00:32

actress Florence Far were among the

1:00:34

most senior members of the order.

1:00:38

Like. Many secret societies. To become an

1:00:41

initiate, you needed to be invited by

1:00:43

an existing member. This

1:00:45

meant that membership grew slowly

1:00:47

but steadily in eighty nineties.

1:00:51

New initiates were drawn from all

1:00:53

different walks of life. But.

1:00:55

They were mostly young adults,

1:00:57

usually people in their twenties

1:01:00

and early thirties, often drawn

1:01:02

from progressive political circles. Many.

1:01:05

Of them were artists,

1:01:07

poets, and actors from

1:01:09

solidly middle class backgrounds.

1:01:12

It. Should be no surprise

1:01:14

that this Hyleas theatrical

1:01:17

magical society attracted London's

1:01:19

Theater kids. The.

1:01:22

Poet William Butler Yeats was

1:01:24

initiated after a few years

1:01:26

of mingling with a cult

1:01:28

researchers around London. Yates.

1:01:31

Then brought in a number

1:01:33

of the society's best known

1:01:35

women like actresses Florence Far

1:01:37

and Mod Gone. The.

1:01:39

Also brought in any foreign I'm

1:01:41

in, the heiress to a T

1:01:44

importing fortune whose family money ended

1:01:46

up bankrolling many of the society's

1:01:48

activities. Which. By

1:01:51

the way, we're fairly modest.

1:01:53

The apartments which constituted the

1:01:55

temple needed to be rented.

1:01:57

Ritual robes needed to be

1:01:59

me the by costume makers.

1:02:01

The place needed to be

1:02:03

decorated, a library needed to

1:02:05

be furnished. But. That was

1:02:07

basically it. In. Till Mcgregor

1:02:09

Mathers started fleecing her for

1:02:11

more tasks, but more on

1:02:14

that a minute. Now.

1:02:18

Here's the question. Did.

1:02:20

These magicians. Ever

1:02:22

actually do any real

1:02:25

magic? Well

1:02:27

they. Certainly claimed that they did.

1:02:31

Mathers. Yates alister cruelly

1:02:33

and Florence Far would

1:02:36

all report instances of

1:02:38

clairvoyance. Cruelly.

1:02:40

Would eventually claims that he had

1:02:42

contacted a powerful spirits named I

1:02:44

was also known as the Egyptian

1:02:47

god Horus who then dictated to

1:02:49

him his magical treatise known as

1:02:51

the Book of the Law. It

1:02:54

was claimed that Mcgregor Mathers

1:02:56

could stimulate visions in other

1:02:59

people's minds. On one

1:03:01

notable occasion, he demonstrated this

1:03:03

power to Wb Yeats. According

1:03:05

to Yates, during a magical

1:03:08

ritual, Mathers handed him a

1:03:10

single. This was an arcane

1:03:12

symbol that have been cut out

1:03:14

of cardboard. Because. You know

1:03:16

they cut the stuff out of cardboard? He

1:03:20

then instructed Gates to close his

1:03:22

eyes. According to Yates

1:03:24

quote. Their. rose before

1:03:27

me. Mental images that I

1:03:29

could not control. A desert

1:03:31

and a Black Titans raising

1:03:33

himself up by his two

1:03:35

hands from the middle of

1:03:37

a heap of ancient ruins

1:03:39

and quote. Mathers.

1:03:41

Than explained that Yates had

1:03:43

glimpsed and elemental spirit quote.

1:03:46

A. Being of the order

1:03:48

of salamanders and quote. Salamanders,

1:03:52

In this context being

1:03:54

powerful fire spirits. Neck.

1:03:58

Was. This a type of hip. The suggestion?

1:04:01

A trick of mental

1:04:03

islam or real magic

1:04:05

derived from a cold

1:04:07

science. You. Can

1:04:09

decide. Many.

1:04:11

Of these magicians kept what we're

1:04:13

known as magical diaries where they

1:04:16

recorded their experiences with magic. Many.

1:04:19

Included vivid descriptions of what's

1:04:21

known as astral travel. This.

1:04:25

Was where through a magical

1:04:27

ritual ones spiritual essence list

1:04:30

the physical body and then

1:04:32

traveled through time and space.

1:04:36

A magical diary kept by

1:04:38

any horn and detailed a

1:04:40

number of these astral travels.

1:04:43

A. One particular afternoon see

1:04:45

and a fellow Golden Dawn

1:04:48

magician the erstwhile stock broker,

1:04:50

Frederick Gardener. Traveled.

1:04:52

To the planet Saturn. They.

1:04:55

Did this by invoking magical names

1:04:58

while they placed a circle of

1:05:00

in the go on a white

1:05:03

background. After

1:05:05

invoking the names a sex

1:05:07

a gram of light appeared

1:05:09

before the to magicians. They.

1:05:11

Then passed through this exit

1:05:14

ramps into array of indigo

1:05:16

and white light. This.

1:05:18

Eventually faded and they perceived

1:05:21

before them the quote Great

1:05:23

Dark World of Saturn and

1:05:25

quote. This

1:05:27

was just one of many astral voyages

1:05:30

that they made to other planets in

1:05:32

the solar system. Through. Weeks

1:05:34

later, they used a similar method

1:05:37

to investigate Jupiter. Did.

1:05:40

They do this for real. While.

1:05:43

This is the thing about much of

1:05:46

the magic that you read about from

1:05:48

the Golden Dawn. On

1:05:50

one hand, these astral travelers

1:05:52

left us detailed and nuanced

1:05:54

accounts of their journeys. If.

1:05:57

You're inclined to believe in something like.

1:06:00

Will travel then that can

1:06:02

feel like proof. My.

1:06:05

Personal bias is.

1:06:08

I don't really think these folks

1:06:10

were doing magic. The.

1:06:12

Astral travel stories seem to

1:06:15

me like a shared imaginative

1:06:17

experience, kind of like an

1:06:19

improvised theater scene that the

1:06:21

actors have convinced themselves is

1:06:23

real. The. Same can

1:06:26

be said about the images that

1:06:28

appeared unsolicited in gates mind's eye.

1:06:31

Seems. Like most of the magic

1:06:33

was happening in the minds of

1:06:36

the magicians, But.

1:06:38

Perhaps. That's my bias getting

1:06:40

in the way. Others

1:06:43

think that they really did

1:06:45

this stuff. You. Can

1:06:47

decide. And.

1:06:49

If you're curious if these magicians

1:06:51

were using drugs, The. Answer

1:06:53

is yes, but not as much as

1:06:55

you might think. Many

1:06:58

magician started experimenting with has

1:07:00

seats. Medically. Prescribed

1:07:03

cocaine was incredibly common, as

1:07:05

were opioids like laudanum, and

1:07:07

medically prescribed heroin. Believe.

1:07:10

It or not, heroin was being used

1:07:12

as a treatment for asthma at the

1:07:14

time. It. Seems

1:07:16

like many of these

1:07:18

magicians were dabbling with

1:07:21

drugs. But. Getting

1:07:23

high wasn't really part of

1:07:25

the golden dawn rituals. Also,

1:07:28

none of the drugs I

1:07:30

just listed typically have hallucinogenic

1:07:32

effects so strong as to

1:07:35

explain astral travel. Now,

1:07:38

the well known English libertine Alister

1:07:40

Cronies who joined the Golden Dawn

1:07:43

in the late eighteen nineties would

1:07:45

go on to experiment more deeply

1:07:47

with drugs in his magical practice,

1:07:50

but that was still years ahead.

1:07:54

The cruelly is sometimes blamed for the

1:07:56

breakup of the hermetic order of the

1:07:59

Golden Dawn. But. This

1:08:01

gives him a little too much credit.

1:08:05

Cruelly. Would eventually form his

1:08:07

own magical society. Some would call

1:08:09

it a cult known as Salima

1:08:11

in the decades that would follow.

1:08:14

His brand of ritual magic

1:08:17

would become increasingly sexual. And

1:08:19

this was the cause of much

1:08:21

of his scandalous reputation. To.

1:08:24

The London tabloids that like

1:08:26

to report on the rumors

1:08:28

about Karoly, his love of

1:08:30

magically steamed orgies, and his

1:08:33

apparent bisexuality. Is. What had

1:08:35

him dubbed the quote unquote Wicked Just

1:08:37

man in the world. Now.

1:08:39

One day I'm sure I will do

1:08:41

a deep dive into crawlies whole trip.

1:08:45

But for. Now suffice it

1:08:47

to say that his evil

1:08:49

reputation was more than a

1:08:51

little exaggerated. You

1:08:54

will sometimes read that crawlies

1:08:56

interest in so called a

1:08:58

black magic caused a rift

1:09:00

in the Golden dawn. His

1:09:03

subsequent ejection from the order

1:09:06

culminated in the battle of

1:09:08

Blaze Road. This.

1:09:10

Isn't quite true. The.

1:09:13

Dissolution of the Order of the Golden

1:09:15

Dawn was bit more complicated than that.

1:09:20

By. The mid eighties nineties and

1:09:22

of people like Gates and Florence

1:09:24

far had been with the Order

1:09:27

long enough that they had been

1:09:29

admitted into the Elite Second Order.

1:09:32

This. Meant that there was now

1:09:35

a super secret elite group

1:09:37

inside what was already a

1:09:39

super secret elite group. This.

1:09:42

Clique of Elites met separately from

1:09:45

the first order and performed magical

1:09:47

rituals that everyone agreed were way

1:09:49

cooler and more intense than what

1:09:51

was done in the first order.

1:09:55

This. Second order was incredibly

1:09:57

exclusive just because you had.

1:10:00

Have all the levels in the

1:10:02

first order did not necessarily mean

1:10:04

that you would be admitted to

1:10:07

the second. Only.

1:10:09

The coolest magicians could

1:10:12

get in. This

1:10:14

was the magical Vip room.

1:10:18

Then in eighty Ninety seven.

1:10:20

One. Of the Sooners, Wt

1:10:22

Westcott resigned from the order.

1:10:25

Why? Well. Apparently.

1:10:28

His involvement in this secret

1:10:30

society had not remain so

1:10:32

secret. He was

1:10:34

apparently warned by a colleague that

1:10:37

he might lose his job as

1:10:39

a Coroner of the Crown is

1:10:41

it became widely known that he

1:10:44

was quote foolishly posturing as one

1:10:46

possessed of magical powers and quote.

1:10:50

Was. Cuts departure coincided with

1:10:52

Mcgregor Mathers asserting himself more

1:10:54

dominantly as the one true

1:10:57

authority in the group. Now.

1:11:00

The irony was that he was doing

1:11:02

this from a distance. A

1:11:04

few years earlier and eighty Ninety

1:11:06

Two Mothers had lost his day

1:11:09

job as the curator of a

1:11:11

small private museum. So

1:11:13

he relocated to Paris.

1:11:16

There he and his wife started

1:11:18

a new chapter or Temple of

1:11:20

the Golden Dawn. Mathers.

1:11:22

Also translated a previously hard to

1:11:24

find book of sixteenth century magic

1:11:27

and he started developing a new

1:11:29

magical right based on what he

1:11:31

had learned about the Ancient Egyptian

1:11:33

Isis mystery cults. He.

1:11:36

Was busy. But. These endeavors

1:11:38

did not exactly pay the bills.

1:11:41

Luckily. His activities were being

1:11:43

financed by the Astral traveling T

1:11:46

Eris Any Horn I'm in. But.

1:11:49

As time went on

1:11:51

and Mathers expenses continued to

1:11:53

mount, their relationship became

1:11:55

strained. For. Them and

1:11:57

eventually threatened to cut mathers us.

1:12:00

The to had a huge falling

1:12:02

out. Now. Back

1:12:04

in London, administration of the

1:12:06

Isis Uranium Temple sell largely

1:12:08

to the actress Florence Far.

1:12:11

But. Far didn't necessarily enjoy

1:12:13

this rule see was

1:12:15

an artist and not

1:12:17

particularly interested in organization

1:12:19

and administration. And

1:12:22

for a whimsical collection of a

1:12:24

magicians, the Hermetic Order of the

1:12:26

Golden Dawn sure did produce a

1:12:28

lot of paperwork. On.

1:12:30

Top of that, see missed the

1:12:33

guidance that had come from W.

1:12:35

T. Westcott. So in

1:12:37

the year nineteen Hundred Far

1:12:39

wrote a letter to Mcgregor

1:12:41

Mathers asking his permission to

1:12:43

resign her post. In.

1:12:46

That letter she mentioned that

1:12:48

she wanted to spend time

1:12:50

working with be now independently

1:12:53

operating Wt Wescott. When.

1:12:55

Mathers read this. He

1:12:58

was infuriated. Not.

1:13:00

Only was this and administrative headache. But

1:13:03

far. Was insinuating that

1:13:05

Wescott was a more

1:13:08

trusted magical authority. Than.

1:13:10

He was. So.

1:13:13

In anger, Mathers shot

1:13:15

back a letter that

1:13:17

completely rocked the foundations

1:13:19

of the order. In.

1:13:22

The letter Mathers accused

1:13:24

West Cause of being

1:13:26

a fraud. Further,

1:13:29

He claimed that Westcott

1:13:31

had quote never. And.

1:13:33

That's an autopsy. Never

1:13:35

been at any time, either

1:13:38

impersonal or in written communication

1:13:40

with the secret chiefs of

1:13:43

the order, having himself either

1:13:45

forged or procured to be

1:13:47

forged, the professed correspondence between

1:13:50

him and them. And.

1:13:52

Quote. Now.

1:13:55

It seems like Mathers was

1:13:57

just trying to discredit his

1:13:59

form. Magical brother. But.

1:14:02

It used the equivalent of

1:14:04

the nuclear option. And.

1:14:06

That came with mutually

1:14:08

assured destruction. By.

1:14:11

Insisting that Westcott had never

1:14:13

And that's in all caps.

1:14:16

Been in contact with the

1:14:18

secret Chiefs and had forged

1:14:20

every document. Mathers

1:14:22

was insinuating that all of

1:14:24

the Order of the Golden

1:14:26

Dawn's founding documents had been

1:14:28

sakes. Those

1:14:31

strange, safer manuscripts. Forgeries.

1:14:36

Westcott. Special letters of permission

1:14:38

from Throw Line sprinkle. Forgeries.

1:14:43

If this was true, That. How

1:14:45

long had Mcgregor Mathers known about

1:14:47

this? Had he been

1:14:49

hoodwinked by Wescott. Or.

1:14:52

Had he helped perpetrate the

1:14:54

fraud. And

1:14:56

either taste, Mathers had claimed that

1:14:58

his status in the Order of

1:15:01

the Golden Dawn had been bestowed

1:15:03

on him by the Secret Cease.

1:15:06

If Wt Westcott had not

1:15:08

been in communication with the

1:15:10

secret, cease the hell. Did.

1:15:13

They even exist. What?

1:15:16

About throw line sprinkle and the

1:15:18

German Temple of the Golden Dawn

1:15:21

was that real? Once.

1:15:23

Again, And. A cold

1:15:25

organization had a fake

1:15:27

history problem. After

1:15:31

Florence far shared this letter,

1:15:33

the London magicians had a

1:15:35

lot of questions. So.

1:15:38

A committee was formed to get to

1:15:40

the bottom of this. This

1:15:42

committee included Wb Yeats, Florence

1:15:44

Far, and all the other

1:15:47

members of the inner Second

1:15:49

order. One. They

1:15:51

approached Westcott about these accusations.

1:15:53

He was cooperative and insisted

1:15:55

that he was innocent of

1:15:57

any fraud. But.

1:16:00

When the committee asked to see

1:16:02

the original encoded manuscripts and the

1:16:04

letters from Sprang all. Wescott.

1:16:07

Claimed that he could. No longer find

1:16:09

them. They. Were gone and.

1:16:12

Wow. Guys so weird I

1:16:14

where are they this on? know

1:16:16

I would you empty if I

1:16:19

could but I don't know. Come.

1:16:22

On man. As.

1:16:25

For mathers, he refused to leave

1:16:27

Paris and report to this committee.

1:16:30

As far as he was concerned,

1:16:32

this committees had no authority to

1:16:35

order him about. He

1:16:37

was still one of the sounding

1:16:39

cease of the Golden Dawn's so

1:16:41

he didn't need to answer their

1:16:44

questions. And. So

1:16:46

tame the split. The

1:16:49

London group decided that they were

1:16:51

no longer going to be taking

1:16:53

any direction from Mcgregor Mathers. So.

1:16:57

They. Declared themselves to be the

1:16:59

new chiefs of your daughter. Now.

1:17:03

What? I find interesting is that. The.

1:17:06

London Group was able to soldier

1:17:08

on, despite the fact that everything

1:17:10

about the orders founding have been

1:17:12

called into question. Some.

1:17:15

Of the magicians seem to have

1:17:17

simply trusted that Wescott wasn't a

1:17:20

liar. And. Weren't overly fussed

1:17:22

that he couldn't find the documents.

1:17:25

Others seem to have been of the

1:17:28

mind that they shouldn't throw the magical

1:17:30

baby out with the bathwater, so to

1:17:32

speak. Even if

1:17:34

Springle and the Secret Chiefs

1:17:36

were a fraud, they still believes

1:17:39

that the larger esoteric tradition that

1:17:41

grounded their magic had value.

1:17:44

Rejecting. Mcgregor Mathers didn't

1:17:46

necessarily mean rejecting Kabbalah or

1:17:48

the magic of Hermes. Now

1:17:53

of course there were some who

1:17:55

remained loyal to matters. Most.

1:17:57

Notably, alister Crawley. Crowley.

1:18:01

Had joined The Golden Dawn and Eighty

1:18:03

Ninety Eight and a just two years,

1:18:05

he had passed every exam and had

1:18:07

ascended through all five levels of the

1:18:09

first order. This. Was

1:18:12

an impressive feat given the amount

1:18:14

of homework involved. Now.

1:18:16

Crawley wanted nothing more than to

1:18:18

be admitted into the second order

1:18:20

and to be given the rank

1:18:22

of adept. This minor. The.

1:18:25

London clique of second order insiders

1:18:27

simply would not let him into

1:18:29

the club. Why?

1:18:32

Now it's unclear. It's.

1:18:35

Sometimes guessed that they didn't like

1:18:37

that cruelly had an interest in

1:18:39

black magic. but. There's. Not

1:18:41

really any evidence to support that. The.

1:18:44

Best answer seems to be that

1:18:46

it was a simple personality clash.

1:18:49

The members of the second Order

1:18:51

just didn't like him. For

1:18:54

his part, Crawley claimed the

1:18:57

Wb. Yeats was always jealous

1:18:59

of his poetry. He.

1:19:01

Claims in his autobiography

1:19:03

or auto hagiography that

1:19:05

quote. What? Hurts Yates

1:19:07

was the knowledge of

1:19:09

his own in comparable

1:19:11

inferiority, And. Quote. Gates.

1:19:15

One of the twentieth century's

1:19:17

most celebrated poets. He. Was

1:19:20

jealous of crawlies poetry. Okay,

1:19:25

Now. It might be

1:19:27

an exaggeration that cruelly was the

1:19:29

wicked just man alive and the

1:19:31

early twentieth century. But.

1:19:33

I think it's fair to say that

1:19:36

he was a messy whole who lived

1:19:38

for drama. When.

1:19:41

Crawley was shot out of the second

1:19:43

order. In London, he decided to travel

1:19:45

to Paris. There. He

1:19:48

got mathers to do the

1:19:50

initiation personally. It. Was

1:19:52

from Mathers that he got

1:19:54

his much sought after magical

1:19:56

rank of adeptness minor. He's.

1:20:00

Pledge to that he would

1:20:02

return to London, Raise Mathers

1:20:04

flag, gather together a group

1:20:06

of Loyalists, and reaffirm Mcgregor

1:20:09

Mathers control over the Order

1:20:11

of the Golden Dawn. The.

1:20:14

Result. Was. The Battle

1:20:16

of Blaze Road. And.

1:20:19

So we have come full

1:20:21

circle. After twelve

1:20:23

years of esoteric study,

1:20:26

solemn ritual, and magical

1:20:28

self disciplined. The. Hermetic

1:20:30

Order of the Golden Dawn. More.

1:20:32

Or less came to an end. With. A

1:20:34

swift kick to Alister Crawlies

1:20:37

head. After.

1:20:40

The year nineteen hundred, the

1:20:42

group of remaining London magicians

1:20:44

would change their societies name

1:20:47

to the Hermetic Society of

1:20:49

the Morgan Roasts. But.

1:20:51

This incarnation was short lived.

1:20:54

The. Next few years were defined

1:20:56

by a number of schisms that

1:20:58

led to at least four different

1:21:01

magical society's who had all descended

1:21:03

from the Hermetic order of the

1:21:05

Golden Dawn. These. Schisms

1:21:08

were mostly due to personality

1:21:10

conflicts between the members, and

1:21:13

only partially due to differing

1:21:15

magical philosophies. In

1:21:18

retrospect, I can't help

1:21:20

but notice that the golden dawn

1:21:22

really began to crumble. When. It's

1:21:24

history was thrown into question.

1:21:27

The. Revelation. That Westcott

1:21:30

and Mathers origin story may have

1:21:32

been a helpful bit of fiction.

1:21:34

And. At the founding documents were

1:21:36

likely forgeries if they'd ever even

1:21:39

existed. Was. Completely destabilizing.

1:21:44

The. Occult tradition was built on

1:21:46

the idea that secret knowledge had

1:21:48

been carefully passed down by learned

1:21:50

sages from one generation to the

1:21:53

next. Of. A link

1:21:55

in that chain turned out to

1:21:57

be based on lies and deception.

1:22:00

Well. Then. Maybe. The whole, a

1:22:02

Cold Enterprise was riddled with fake

1:22:04

history. The

1:22:07

Golden Dawn taught that magic

1:22:09

was only possible if the

1:22:11

will was focused and the

1:22:13

magician truly believed in the

1:22:15

seriousness of their undertaking. In

1:22:18

other words, if you didn't believe.

1:22:21

In your magic. Couldn't. Work.

1:22:24

In a way. The. Movement that

1:22:26

was born out of the Victorian

1:22:28

crisis of faith. Was. Undone.

1:22:32

By. It's own. Crisis. Of faith.

1:22:38

Oh. Hey, that's all for

1:22:40

this week. Join his again in

1:22:42

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1:22:44

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