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that i begin to be very interested
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after the catch the runway
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they have to frighten to go was killed
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some
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of our people i got kill it
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was clear who was what was
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going on they were more or less they
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kiss revenge,
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or whatever the motive was
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man,
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john gotti
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try to stay as close as time
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as humanly past
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one day when him to john and he says
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he had take a walk abrego taste
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we took a walk
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and he says
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the was in a restaurant or somewhere
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the men's room
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the door opened up in a couple f b
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i agents water
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there were three to one guy holding the door
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so nobody can get it
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two guys would over
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they said by law
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we have to tell you that there's a plus
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there's people playing peculiar
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john looked at them and several who either
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they said by law we have to tell
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you this because we know it
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by more we don't have to tell you
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who would us and we're not going to die
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john said something
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a little
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murphy i guess towards
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there were in her give you a warning
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i hope they succeed
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they walked out
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so we talk about
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we had people do research as much
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as possible lawyers see if
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everybody can hear this little
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what for what's going on
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happy did come about
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the law enforcement they said something
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really through them
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that
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my name came up
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the genovese family
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and we met again
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we know that chin
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the like john
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again we've had people
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now
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there's nothing we could have done about it because
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we weren't sure
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what it was all about
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some time later
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because the yeah
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the genovese family bobby
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manner
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had a jersey fraction he was out
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injured i
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bet would him a few times were frightened she
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goes a life
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a couple issues came out during
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the commission trial
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and now
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com my purse ago wanted to a bit
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that there was
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the mafia
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the cabbage
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god by committee
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they wouldn't be a violation of the law
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as long as they couldn't prove we did
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anything with
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there was other groups ku klux klan
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all different kinds of groups
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not illegal to be part of a group or even
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if you know like ago
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most of the bosses were in jail
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during the commission while
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yeah
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they voted against us
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they
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saying
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that there is a mafia
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there's something that's against causing us
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they thought that they would all be betraying the
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off
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a message came out
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two
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may and franken chico
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and
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we were going to ask bobby man
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what he thought of it
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we met with
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and he said absolutely not
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no way
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what he would shock
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richard
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that even a day later he came back
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when is totally against
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they'd come out
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happy trial a lawyer brought it
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out
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the dot the lawyer was snatched up
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right away
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and threat
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and he said that jr told him
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to say and do it
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i never say that came from
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bobby manner
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was a very had to go guy who
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goes north
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very much about the rules he didn't
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even wanna discuss money with people
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all he wanted to discuss was
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goes russia and it's rules
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it was a pretty vicious guy
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they killed quite a few guys out injured
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right
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that we are pre i told john about
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we took that serious
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bob reminded did get arrested
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by the f b i
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in a massive rico indictment
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there was some murders and whole bunch of stuff
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one of the charges was
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they were conspiring to
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kill joined god
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they had tapes on it and whatever
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it may be
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then we realized that's why
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cablevision
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john was about to
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do anything when i spoke to him i said listen
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they're making that kind of of movies because
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he had a family
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is probably given the order
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the way he would do this without
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the agree
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they agreed to stay tight clothes
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and do love
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i wanted to retaliate
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i always felt that she might have been behind
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al franken cinco ahead
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the not and was dot
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now i find out
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i guess is almost thirty years later
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that
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he's still in prison i'm in one
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or two other guys
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on backers
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maybe one years old
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one of his friends which i who i
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don't know he is blaze probably are high
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ranking guys genovese family had that
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time
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the
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seventy eight
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they're flower emotions that
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the government screwed them in line did
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all kinds of things
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the appeal the before last
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i haven't heard much of
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once we went to press
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i know some guys in his crew
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but i never really they
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don't agree with
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so now it's up in the course
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this case
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someone told me about it
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and i wanted to talk about it and tell you
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about
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that only his case
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which i don't know not a lawyer i don't know case
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the grounds and or herself
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or what was said at israel
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that i know about
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the potential hit
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john gotti from
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that
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crew
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very strong very powerful
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very dangerous
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years later when i cooperated
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i ask him about it
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they call me a little bit about it but
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they didn't want to get into details and stuff
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like that
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they
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the wasn't all that interested so
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i never got too deep but they said
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they were plotting there is no question
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about
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really gonna miss another hit
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supposedly
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they did
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he ordered it
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i don't even know the guy is what his
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name was have no interest in
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it
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so
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i can report on
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but it will be interesting to hear
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what happens in his case it is
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appeal
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if he wins
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these things in the government when you're convicted
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like this
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there almost impossible
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to overturn
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regular chassis always imprisoned
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they brains on appeals
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for ninety nine that now
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i've been fighting for him for two and a half almost
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three years
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there was supposed to give me hearing
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they didn't give a damn
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the court of appeals
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sadie warrants for hearing
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and
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the judge them by too much
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now
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they would happen
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moyes you tell me
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judge
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david for a hearing
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you're gonna be subpoenaed
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the go back to new yorker you're going to be
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before in this here
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the difference is i'm gonna be testifying
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what a difference for regular
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casio
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i don't videos on this
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i believe is it is
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again and that a lawyer
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that
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far as i could say grub been a lawyer
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he took no part in the murdered that he got convicted
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now that's not enough then
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that's not enough
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let me go back to buy the man
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he's got a tough road
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tahoe to get out
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if him or his family his this i
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wish the best of luck
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these cases are just
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enormously powerful on
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the government's side
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especially when he's been in that long
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and is that age
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