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Okay, I'm going to give you the

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intro for Serk till in three

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two one. Hello, and welcome

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back to Out of Office. I'm your host, Malika

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Kapoor. This week, we are revisiting

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my conversation with Daniel Lamar, executive

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vice chair of Serk Desolee. The

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circus company is back is

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doing really well after nearly closing

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down during the pandemic. In

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this episode, I spoke to Daniel

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about creativity, trust and

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what working in the circus taught him

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about leadership. Have a listen.