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historical stuff, so they'll have to deal with

1:01

heavy topics. And they'll talk about people deleting

1:03

themselves, or people getting clapped, or they'll talk

1:06

about... They'll

1:08

dance around it and make up their own.

1:11

Well, you know, when a lady and she

1:13

doesn't really want to, but there's this fella

1:15

and he does, and you know, bad stuff

1:17

goes down. Well, that's what we're saying happened

1:19

here. Jesus, what am

1:21

I watching right now? Why can't you

1:23

say the word? I picked up on

1:26

standardization around the self-censorship. When

1:28

people talk about forcible

1:30

intercourse, they call it grapes. And

1:33

I'm like, oh, OK. And I guess

1:35

TikTok censors really hard. So

1:38

there's become like a whole sort of secondary

1:41

pig Latin around what it is. That's

1:43

a good way of putting it. I don't like that. You

1:46

should be able to say what you want

1:48

to say. Like, you're trying to convey information. You

1:50

can. You know what the deal is. There's certain

1:52

sponsors that don't want to be associated with hard

1:55

topics. And what do they want to be associated

1:57

with? Fucking circuitous talking retards who can't express their

1:59

point. I hope so. We

2:03

hope so dearly. 90

2:05

seconds for the R slur. 90

2:09

seconds before we dropped an R slur. R

2:13

is not a slur. We're taking it back. We're taking it back.

2:17

It's easy for you to say you're a big

2:19

powerful brain. You're fully functional human self. Yes. I

2:22

go the other direction in the same way that black

2:24

people can say the N word. I can say retired. Yeah.

2:28

And by the way, Kyle, you say I can't. I can't.

2:32

Who do you want making the judgment call

2:34

on whether or not it's okay to say retard

2:37

me or an actual, you know,

2:40

me clearly. You

2:45

know, I still if we're talking about free

2:47

speeches about what you can say in like a public

2:49

square and you know, and

2:51

supposedly the coppers won't come lock

2:54

you up, but that's only

2:56

in this country and that doesn't apply to things like

2:58

people in my YouTube comments like 10 years ago used

3:00

to be like, ah, you've locked

3:02

me. What happened to free speech? And I'd either

3:04

go there is no freedom of speech in Russia,

3:06

or I would say there's no

3:08

fucking freedom of speech in my comments section.

3:11

Why do you think it applies here? There's no

3:13

bill of rights at the beginning of the YouTube

3:15

charter. Yeah. Free speech is

3:18

about rolling coal over gay pride

3:20

flags painted on the street. That's

3:22

my understanding. Yeah,

3:24

that's a lot of people. Well,

3:26

I don't believe in global warming. We were talking about

3:28

stuff that we don't believe earlier. Like that's the one

3:30

I don't believe in anymore. I don't believe that humans

3:33

are causing global warming. Every time

3:35

I see one of the Senate hearings, you'll have

3:37

like Senator, whoever the hell and he's just he's

3:39

talking to some person who is like,

3:42

yeah, this lady wanted to phase out the

3:44

combustion engine in 10 years and she wanted air travel to

3:47

go down by 12 percent and she wanted to put

3:49

all this high speed rail in and and

3:53

and he starts layering like how

3:55

much CO2 that is. So

3:58

we all. It

4:00

came down to like 0.003% CO2 reduction. And

4:04

oh, by the way, aren't CO2 levels today lower than they

4:07

were in 1970? I

4:09

don't have that data. I didn't think you would.

4:12

Are you sure? I don't know. I hadn't heard that

4:14

part. That would open my eyes. I might not be.

4:16

My name is in the mainstream. Backing global warming on

4:18

global warming, which is I think all of you people

4:20

should do your part. No,

4:23

no, I'm doing even more record. I'm

4:26

going to keep my V8 pickup truck, but I

4:28

need you to carry your weight. I

4:30

need you to use a dirty bag at the

4:32

grocery store. I've

4:34

been I've been composting my poop in

4:37

the backyard for years now. But it's

4:40

the whole idea of the carbon footprint is

4:42

like a slap in the face to the

4:44

the average human being. And I'm I don't

4:46

mean like average like. Some

4:49

small majority are like what most people are

4:51

like. I mean, like 99 fucking percent of

4:53

us, like it's nonsense to be looking at

4:55

your carbon footprint because it's nothing. Because

4:58

there's Taylor Swift's out there. Because there's

5:00

Monsanto's out there and DuPont's out there.

5:02

And so I mean, and keep in mind,

5:04

those are just the American ones. And all

5:07

of America is some small fraction of the

5:09

global pollution. The real problem is Indonesia,

5:11

China, India, these billion human being countries that

5:13

have no standards that just you can see

5:15

what the rivers look like. You look at

5:18

the Ganges River when those filthy people go

5:20

out there and bathe in that foam, you

5:22

know, how the water makes that foam. They

5:25

love it. If it's not us, then it's China.

5:27

But it's the idea that

5:29

America is innocent on this and that some poor

5:32

country has a bigger carbon footprint, I think is

5:34

untrue. At least it used to be. And I

5:36

could be out of date. I would be so

5:38

surprised. Zach, help us out here, because my thought

5:41

process is like carbon footprint by country. Let's see.

5:43

Yeah. Yeah. Like like our CO2 output by country.

5:45

I know that we don't like the same difference.

5:47

We like if you were out

5:49

and about on a float trip or at the beach

5:51

with someone and they like drank a

5:53

can of soda or a bottle of soda and

5:56

then just like threw it in the ocean. Any

5:58

one of us would be like, what? fuck like

6:00

yeah don't do that shit like

6:02

it's got us we want not

6:04

because next time we show up

6:06

if you're in Bangladesh they're gonna

6:08

or India anybody look at this

6:10

homosexual throwing it in the trash

6:12

the world is our trash can

6:16

see that River it is nature's trash

6:18

can yeah yeah

6:24

I just don't believe it I don't believe

6:26

it because if we were back doing it

6:28

then I feel

6:30

like we could throw up an atmosphere on

6:32

Mars if they're like yeah you don't understand

6:34

it's like make or break right now whether

6:36

we survive in the next 50 years really

6:39

we must be warming this place up quick

6:41

can we apply some of that output to

6:43

Mars and just throw up an atmosphere like

6:46

it is there we go how are you

6:48

doing I'd like check real quick yeah

6:52

we're going yeah we're

6:54

live by the way yeah it's like a baton

6:56

hands off early speed here what's

6:59

up the Rizzlers here what's up guys how's it

7:01

going I just found out while you're late can

7:03

you please tell everyone else because it's awesome my

7:06

so my fiance

7:08

our girlfriend was

7:11

she's wanting to get the weeds out

7:14

of the yard so she started to

7:16

fertilize with with 240 and I

7:18

was teaching all the stuff and then our cow

7:20

got out and she has this big

7:22

ass dog and this big ass dog does not

7:24

like the cow and they fight every day at

7:26

the fence and the dog decided

7:28

to fight the cow

7:32

in real life and that was

7:34

a whole I was a whole a whole

7:36

thing so now I'm back now though I'm back

7:39

I'm back I'm good to go everyone who amongst

7:41

us hasn't had the cow it's like getting stuck

7:43

in traffic actually what kind of

7:46

dog was my cow is catch the

7:48

trays it's a a Norwegian

7:50

forest town so a gigantic like

7:53

110 pound German Shepherd looking dogs that once you prove

7:55

me right about the global warming please show us what

7:58

a little bit a

8:00

bit of a, you know, us high class

8:02

debate facts and figures. Kyle

8:04

and I are like, I don't know about this

8:07

global warming stuff. Seems ridiculous. Woody's like, Oh,

8:09

the fucking planet. It needs our help. He

8:14

has a Greta stick. He's getting a Greta tattoo,

8:16

but he's got Greta stickers all over his truck.

8:20

VA makes no sense. And I

8:22

swear it's not because I have pedo tendencies.

8:24

Not it. Oh, I mean, we should have

8:26

leaned. This is like, look, she's hot, Kyle.

8:28

How can I say that that face? One

8:31

of those dogs. Oh,

8:33

it's a cool dog. It's like a husky. It's got

8:35

a husky vibe. It's a little bit, too. He's got

8:37

a lot of floof around his head, like for self

8:39

defense. His name's

8:41

Kevin. He's a he's really good. Very, very,

8:43

very good dog. Him and him in this

8:45

cow and the cow as well is his

8:47

name is Ace. And he's no. When

8:50

he was born, he was he was like sticking out

8:52

of his mom's pussy. And his mom was

8:54

just medically running through

8:56

the forest, hitting him on trees and

8:58

stuff. So he's severely brain damaged. Oh,

9:01

you know, he's randomly severely. Is

9:04

it this way? Zach, can you put that dog back

9:06

up? Kyle,

9:08

do you feel a certain kinship to this

9:11

dog that clearly has Down syndrome that Zach's

9:13

about to show us? Can you? No, but

9:15

but like, you know, I have a similar

9:18

dog. I've had a I

9:20

have a dog that appears to have Down syndrome because

9:22

of his he's a Malibu and he's got that chromatin

9:24

skull. Yeah, a little bit. But

9:27

we really did have a Jack

9:29

Russell who was like off like

9:32

in a fun way. It was it was never sad.

9:35

It was never pitiful and pathetic. It

9:37

was like personality doing her

9:39

little weird thing. She's doing that weird

9:41

little thing she does. It's

9:45

like, oh, yeah, there's my boy. Look at him now.

9:47

You got to keep your dog. Yeah,

9:49

so he's fresh there. I he's seven years old,

9:51

eight years old there. I just had gotten him

9:53

out of a shelter. They're about to put her

9:55

in. They don't live that long. And so he's

9:57

they live 15 years then. So he's dirty and

9:59

like. I'm making it to 15. He's

10:02

pretty malnourished and dirty there. He's like 75 pounds now. I've

10:05

been treating him pretty good. He's going

10:07

to the doctor tomorrow. He's going to the, he's

10:10

getting his nose scoped. They're gonna put him asleep

10:12

and run on him. When the doctor looks at

10:15

him, does he ever say, what

10:17

a special guy he is? No one

10:19

says that. He looks like Malamut's look.

10:21

No, he doesn't. He looks like Malamut. He

10:24

doesn't. He's a sweet boy. Look, that's it. Your

10:26

dog is just as good as any other dog.

10:28

Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. That's a good

10:30

boy. I think you could get a job at

10:32

McDonald's or something. Well, you know,

10:36

I don't like their own Olympics.

10:38

You know that the special dog

10:40

Olympics, this

10:43

is a box with wheels. That's the

10:46

thing that'll make me cry every time.

10:48

I cannot bear to look at a

10:51

crippled dog. Like I cannot

10:53

take it. It's the worst, most

10:55

sex. I would kick a, an

11:01

already crippled child down the stairs in his

11:03

weird little wonky electric chair before I would

11:05

do the same to a little pupper. Like,

11:08

I just feel so bad because

11:10

they don't care that they're crippled. Like when people

11:12

get crippled, we've usually got kind of down on

11:14

life, maybe a little bit of depression. You're like,

11:16

oh, they're gonna get you running around without me.

11:19

This dog is just like complete disregard for that.

11:21

He can't grasp it. So he's just like, I

11:23

got wheels. And he's gone. He

11:25

loves it. Dude, I'm not down

11:27

at crippled dogs at all. And it's just because

11:29

of what you said, I'm inspired by them, right?

11:31

This dog doesn't know. That

11:34

dog, he's ready to run,

11:36

baby. He's got wheels, dude. That's high

11:38

tech. He's having

11:40

a good time. That's a happy dog

11:42

right there. He doesn't know. He knows he's

11:44

good. His upper body, he's fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger

11:46

dog. Yeah. I

11:48

love Dachshunds too. I don't have one, but I had

11:51

a girlfriend who had one and I really fell in love

11:53

with that breed. I like little dogs. I've

11:56

got a mixture of both, but I

11:58

like little dogs because But

12:00

it's like, damn, you were ready to kill right there.

12:02

I like that from you, little man. My big dog

12:04

might run away from the door, but my little dog

12:06

is running out the door to the fucking

12:09

UPS, man. I'm on the other side of the debate.

12:11

I like big dogs. I like small

12:13

dogs. Like small dogs. Yeah. Number

12:15

three to one here. Small dogs

12:17

are the best. They just want to snuggle with you. They

12:19

just want to have a good time. They just want to

12:21

chill. I like dogs can snuggle with you like belly

12:24

hugs while standing. It's too

12:26

hard. Yeah. One thing that

12:28

throws me off of big dogs is they have

12:30

man shit. They have like giant man

12:32

shits and it's like shit. Not

12:34

a bug. It's a feature you can tell about

12:36

side. I'll never expect a thing.

12:39

That's right. Yeah. Who

12:41

did this? Not me.

12:43

The thought. It's not

12:46

like the Amber Heard situation when she

12:48

took that human-sized poop and Donnie Johnny Depp's

12:50

bed and tried to blame it on some

12:52

little peek-a-boo. Johnny's like, it's

12:54

funny. That was not dog. That

12:58

was not dog. But

13:00

I imagine doing like Captain Sparrow. That's

13:02

not dog. He

13:05

was trying to collect his finger off the ground

13:07

at the time. What was her deal? Did she

13:10

have like BPD or something like that? IBS. It's

13:12

just an awful human thing. No,

13:16

like if you she's just like

13:18

a manipulative sociopathic jerk. She's a

13:20

bad. She's the bad man. I'll

13:23

tell you what. That's how I came away from that trial. I

13:26

didn't not that I love Johnny Depp as

13:28

an actor, but I separate that from personality. That's how I like

13:30

Tom Cruise. Like I don't I wouldn't want to hang out Tom

13:33

Cruise the man. I don't think I don't think any of us

13:35

would are you'd like to meet Tom Cruise. Because you come back

13:37

here and be like, I met Tom Cruise. Let me tell you

13:39

all about it. But you wouldn't

13:41

want to like chill with him

13:43

and be his buddy. If you're not going to

13:45

get anything at it, maybe you're imagining way, but

13:47

then maybe maybe Tom Cruise got like a junior

13:49

yacht. He could pass off to me or no,

13:51

you're not getting any like benefits. I

13:53

just hanging out with this guy's personality and

13:56

it's it's not it's weird. Tom Cruise is

13:58

perfect for a particular kind of friend. I

14:00

don't know if you have these like I

14:02

do. I have activity friends, right? I have

14:04

motorcycle friends. I've got flying friends I've got

14:07

dirt bike friends and It's

14:09

like, you know, I Were very

14:11

different like in terms of like, you know,

14:13

the family the career the life lived life,

14:15

etc But we

14:17

share the same drug and that is dirt

14:20

bikes or flying or whatever and that's what

14:22

we do together So it's just an activity

14:24

friend if Tom Cruise is like what do you

14:26

want to fucking go? Race

14:28

dirt bikes off cliffs and base jump from

14:30

there and I'm like you got spare bikes

14:33

Like that's the kind of friend. I'd love to be

14:35

his Kawasaki does There's

14:37

mr. Kawasaki there. Hello, sir Tom

14:41

Cruise's activity friend Yeah,

14:44

I don't want to I don't want to get too far away from our

14:46

debate I want I need to get

14:49

Caleb's input. So Global

14:51

warming. Yeah, and I want to I want to

14:53

go ahead and here we were stuck I don't

14:55

want to minimize the nuance here. I need a

14:57

yes or no Yes,

15:00

sir. No, are we being had

15:02

raise the question appropriately? Do you think

15:04

that human beings are the main

15:06

why are we being lied for global? Warming

15:09

climate change whatever they're calling it

15:11

this week. I Think

15:15

I so I'm I will preface it

15:17

by saying I'm extremely Wary

15:19

of things that I am told that

15:21

other people believe from the

15:23

I'm a redneck by heart Okay That

15:26

being said it does get awful

15:29

cold and awful hot randomly it seems

15:31

and I don't I don't pretend to be a

15:33

meteorologist or someone to who who You

15:36

know understands or studies or cares really about this kind

15:38

of stuff I like to keep my environment clean locally,

15:41

and I don't like it when you

15:43

know when Companies

15:45

can make shit messy and fuck up rivers and stuff like

15:48

that So I think that you

15:50

know, I don't really know about global warming I

15:52

don't know if it's if it's legit or not.

15:54

I think that the environment is very important I

15:57

do think that is incredibly important and I think that

15:59

if Fighting global warming also

16:01

has a positive effect on the environment. I

16:03

would I would I would be for

16:05

that. Well, it could be a yes or no there, though,

16:07

because you could look at pollution

16:09

is a big fucking coverall thing, but

16:11

we could talk about, say, a company

16:14

like DuPont, it's forever chemicals and then

16:16

ending up in in the waters and

16:18

microplastics and that stuff. We all nobody

16:20

likes that right. And of course, but.

16:23

I don't want you telling me what kind of stove I

16:25

can have. I don't like it. OK. I

16:28

take that fucking bullshit nonsense out of every

16:30

shower that I use, that thing that slows

16:33

down the rate or thing that they got

16:35

a restrictor plate on my shower. I can't

16:37

handle the full blast, please. OK, like I

16:39

don't want one on my car either. Like

16:41

I want. Yeah, I'm OK with the mission

16:43

standards, I suppose, but I choose them. I

16:48

take off the restrictor on every sink and

16:50

every shower. In addition to that, we have

16:52

a fucking household booster pump that increases the

16:54

pressure to this bitch. If

16:57

it doesn't hurt a little, we're not done

16:59

yet. Yeah. And the same with toilet.

17:01

I remember and it may be king

17:03

of the hill that that sort of shine some light on

17:05

this. It's that. Yeah, it's a good episode.

17:07

The low flows. Yeah, I don't know the exact numbers,

17:09

but they went from like one and a half liters

17:12

or gallons, whatever the metric is per flush down

17:14

to like point seven five or something. It's like,

17:16

look, how much water we're saving. It's like, dude,

17:18

I got flush three fucking times, though. It's over

17:20

and over. I mean, you're using more water because

17:22

you've never shitted out for a week ass toilet.

17:26

Have you ever shit at a friend's house that

17:28

has one of those toilets and

17:30

you're expecting like I'm expecting my toilet, which is

17:32

like if I put your dog Murphy

17:34

in there and I've got a log in that. I'm

17:36

going to suck down

17:38

towards the equator. Yeah,

17:42

it's stressful. You watch that. That water barely gets

17:44

sucked under. It's like, oh, how's this going to

17:46

handle? Yeah, you sleep. He

17:49

built. Automately, this

17:51

isn't even a bad day for me and you're

17:53

barely getting. Yeah. And it's like, oh, damn it.

17:55

Like, and I chose the bathroom that's adjacent to

17:57

the room that we're hanging out in and now.

18:00

they're going to know that I flushed twice.

18:02

I've never clogged a toilet, by the

18:04

way. Wow. Wow. I

18:07

have an asshole. Yeah,

18:09

I haven't became like an adult man. And

18:11

this is this is unrealistic global

18:13

warming. You've never

18:17

will it ever. I've

18:19

never clogged a toilet. The only thing I've ever done

18:21

is put a carrot in a toilet and that clogged

18:24

it. That can't. I would argue toilet

18:26

clogging is not really about the poop. It's typically about the

18:28

toilet paper. Oh, it's 100 percent. Yeah,

18:30

right. That might be reminiscent

18:32

of an odd shit. I

18:35

don't think you'd have to have so much actual

18:37

shit in order for the poop itself to clog

18:40

it. True. It can have an infinite amount of

18:42

shit like. And it would have to be durable

18:44

poop, right? Because it. Yeah. You know, mostly once

18:46

you start stirring around, now you have a solution.

18:48

You have to be like solid. Avocados

18:51

fall in a solution. Yeah.

18:53

An unripe avocado, a rubber avocado. The times

18:55

that I had when I was a kid,

18:57

you're right is like 100 percent because

19:00

you're just using like a child amount of toilet

19:02

paper where you're like wrapping your hand

19:04

eight times per wife. And then you're like, why

19:07

is it? Why isn't it like there's so much

19:09

little paper? You can't even see that anyone shit

19:11

here. It's just the labor.

19:13

So I'd be like, oh, oh, oh,

19:15

oh, oh. I would

19:18

have been stupid when I was in man. I

19:21

can't believe I'm just remembering this. When I was

19:23

like eight at in grade school, I

19:25

like on the way to or from reef recess,

19:27

I don't recall. I took a

19:29

shit in the bathroom, clogged the

19:32

toilet with just a full

19:34

roll, probably of of, you

19:37

know, grade school toilet paper. And it

19:39

was the first time maybe in my life that I

19:41

realized that like adults don't

19:44

they're not going to know if you did

19:46

something bad if they don't see you do it. And

19:48

so I just left with water pouring over onto the

19:50

floor. And like later that

19:52

day, like those pick me up at three. I

19:54

see a janitor in there earning his keep and

19:58

it was fine. Never gotten trouble for it. Shout

20:00

out to my principal. I'm sorry for that.

20:02

He's undoubtedly dead right now. There's no way

20:04

that guy's alive. No, the guy. Unless he's

20:06

got 102. I know. I know

20:08

you're pretty open about

20:10

your bathroom activities, Taylor. You

20:13

laughed at me when I told you that I run water

20:15

when I piss if there's a girl near enough by to

20:17

hear me pissing. And I want her to do the same.

20:19

And I tell them to do the same. I don't hear

20:21

your piss either. But I

20:23

had a girlfriend who had a very old,

20:25

weak toilet. And it wasn't that

20:27

it needed multiple flushes. It did. But

20:30

each flush was like, you know,

20:32

it's about how fast the water is coming

20:34

when you hit it and how much it's

20:37

the velocity and the volume of water that comes

20:39

out when you because in prison, you

20:41

flush that thing. And it's like, boom,

20:43

it's like it's like a black hole

20:45

opened up and swallowed everything and suddenly

20:48

everything's open and everything turns from like

20:50

dirty to like pristine. Instantly, there's so

20:52

much pressure hitting it. It feels like

20:54

shit. Yeah, her her toilet. It was

20:56

like you had some water in your

20:58

cupped hands and you just went, here

21:00

you go, little fella. And

21:03

so I would genuinely do this. I would I

21:06

would go in there and do my business. But

21:08

before I even sat down, I would take the

21:10

lid off the toilet and I

21:12

would take my the glass that my

21:14

toothbrushes in and get multiple glasses of

21:16

water from the sink and load up

21:18

the tank to make this

21:20

toilet a good toilet. That

21:24

sucks. I don't want to like if I'm going to

21:26

the bathroom, I don't want to do like a prep.

21:29

I would have modified her flapper. You know,

21:31

a little float that's on a bar. It

21:33

wasn't that you could pull that with your hand. You

21:35

like, you know, you take the lid off, you reach

21:37

in there and just give it full blast. That wasn't

21:39

the issue. It was just an old

21:41

toilet. And it's also about the same where the

21:43

fill point is right. You can bend it. So

21:46

yeah, I actually pointed it up and then it

21:48

would have to go higher to to stop coming,

21:50

stop filling. You guys like that

21:52

is true. I've never used a bidet. Oh,

21:55

yes. Yeah, I've got a bidet. What

21:57

he's got a nice bidet. I

21:59

have. a really nice. But you got like a cold day, like

22:01

a heated one. Yeah,

22:04

yeah. Oh, it's heated. The seats heated. The

22:06

toilet seat is on a remote control. Oh,

22:09

shit. Yeah. We make this Korean guy

22:11

up. He's got a little camera and

22:14

there's a Korean guy. He's the real.

22:16

Yeah. With a joystick. Just

22:18

just doing this all day. Watch Ukrainian, but

22:20

some pilots are taking a minute off. My

22:23

really. Well, he's a TV drone.

22:25

You have a bidet at your house, Caleb? I

22:28

have one from Timu that I have. Yeah. What

22:32

Timo bidet? Getting some lead right on

22:34

your bottle every day, huh? Timo's like

22:36

a like eBay for people.

22:41

That's even Facebook marketplace combined

22:43

with Amazon. Yeah. Yeah. It's

22:46

like a lot of their products have lead on

22:48

them. So it's like, yeah. Imagine imagine

22:50

you're buying stuff from eBay. But eBay is

22:52

like, this is brand new and it's actually

22:54

nine years old. OK,

22:56

that's like how it's like. Yeah. What's the

22:58

market for this? Like, why why not go

23:00

to Amazon? It's incredibly cheap. It's like

23:03

four bucks. Yeah. Four dollars.

23:05

Like, you know, it'll be so cheap

23:07

that you'll use a special credit card

23:09

to make the purchase, keep an eye

23:11

on it. And then when the product

23:13

shows up after three months of sailing

23:15

across the ocean from China, literally. Yes.

23:17

Oh, I forgot this thing. Four

23:19

cents. And it goes a long way at

23:21

China. All right. All right. It'll it's shockingly

23:24

cheap. It's crazy. I had some coronavirus shipped

23:26

over in 2020 from T-MIL. Mm.

23:29

Really? Your your bidet shoots cold water.

23:31

I can't get past that. It's cold.

23:33

It blasts my ass with cold water.

23:36

Yeah. Yeah. Mine shoots cold water

23:38

into the poop for like the first 10

23:40

seconds. And then once it's the cold water

23:42

is out and it knows that it's warm.

23:44

Yeah. Then it changes and goes for your

23:46

butt. So you don't get that cold blast

23:48

to be repaired later. He didn't go to

23:51

Timo. No,

23:54

he didn't save with T-MIL. No, I

23:56

didn't. So you have

23:58

a delicate. I have a

24:00

dainty asshole. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

24:04

I have a dainty asshole. I

24:06

feel like an artist, a pianist.

24:08

Yes, exactly. Yeah. I

24:10

would say it's a, it's rare. I

24:12

think my poop haplotype is rare. My

24:15

shit haplotype, my gastrointestinal haplotype

24:17

is rare. Oh, that's,

24:19

that's a blessing. You

24:21

never, well yeah, would you rather have common shits?

24:24

I wouldn't want a dainty asshole. I want a

24:26

hardy hole. Yeah. You're

24:29

loving it to Korean boyfriends only. I

24:32

would say the, I would say the dainty

24:34

aspect applies to the, what comes out of

24:36

it as well. I would say so. Okay.

24:39

Yeah. And then I have perfectly

24:41

consistent shits and have for basically my whole life. That's

24:45

good. I think most people do

24:47

as long as like it,

24:50

if I have a horrible diet for a

24:52

while, I'll be like, what's going on here?

24:55

Oh yeah. My eating for the past week.

24:59

Yeah. Otherwise pretty, yeah. Every

25:01

morning, pretty easy. I do have a lot of, I do

25:03

have a lot of like, stomach pains and

25:06

like really weird, like nausea and shit, just like

25:08

everybody else. But it just seems like my shits

25:10

are always really unique and normal. I mean normal,

25:12

not unique. Yeah. Just daily fits

25:14

of nausea. Like everybody gets. Exactly. Stabbing

25:17

pains, grief induced hallucinations, et cetera. That'd

25:25

be like the worst symptom ever to

25:27

look up on Google and scare

25:29

yourself is like nausea and like stomach organ

25:31

pain. Because there's no limit to what that

25:34

AI bot is going to tell you about.

25:37

You will die. You're going to die

25:39

already dead. Yeah, exactly.

25:42

What colors, you know, what did you know? I

25:46

immediately started thinking about drifter when you started

25:48

saying all those crazy like symptoms. All

25:51

right. I'll

25:54

say that our boy like I'm all I'm

25:56

so curious about his deal, you

25:58

know, like, like, are you familiar with drifter? Caleb. I'm

26:01

vaguely familiar. I, if you keep explaining, I think I'll,

26:03

okay. D R F T O zero

26:06

R. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Basically

26:09

they, every time

26:11

he comes on, he is it's

26:13

solved. Well he's like,

26:15

Oh, I think we've gotten to the bottom

26:17

of the syndrome from which I suffer for

26:19

which there was no name before I got

26:21

it. And his symptoms are awful. Like, like

26:23

the last time he was on here, maybe,

26:26

maybe the last two, he's in a bed

26:28

and he's got this elaborate camera setup. That's

26:30

looking straight down at his head on a

26:32

pillow. And he's got like a mouse and

26:34

keyboard set up. And there's a, and a

26:36

second camera that shows like, yeah, I'm in

26:38

bed. It like zooms out, you know, it's

26:40

across the room or whatever, like a porno

26:42

shot. And it's like, this

26:44

is the weirdest thing I've ever seen. He

26:46

did multiple hours with

26:50

us. And then on Halloween he dressed

26:52

as a crippled clown in

26:54

the bed thing. But he,

26:56

he popped in a little bit late. Like you

26:58

did. All right. We may have been doing a

27:00

multi-gassed show. Yeah.

27:02

What is his syndrome? They

27:05

don't know. They don't

27:07

fucking know. It's

27:10

not a bit 15 to know. All

27:12

right. Well, look, I don't know him personally, but

27:14

if it's a bit, he is

27:16

really sticking to it, man. It'd be like

27:18

finding out Harley. There is a Canadian or

27:21

something or that he's short. It'd be like

27:23

a real long con if drifter ain't sick,

27:25

a really long time. It's been years. I

27:27

believe when we talk in private, he'll be

27:29

like, depending on what the most

27:32

recent doctor trip was like, he'll either be

27:35

optimistic or pessimistic. And, and both feel,

27:37

feel real when we talk about it,

27:39

like, you know, in private before and

27:41

after the show. And we always wish

27:43

him well. So I'm always curious about

27:45

shout out to him. Hope he's sitting

27:48

upright. Hope he's not

27:50

dead. Standing maybe. If

27:54

I remember, there was one point during the

27:56

show where like he had been

27:58

laying down just. flat

28:01

the entire time, deathbed style. And

28:03

then out of nowhere, he's like, oh, one sec. Then

28:06

he like took his headphones off and like got

28:08

up and walked away. And I

28:10

was like, oh, okay, this isn't as bad as I thought

28:12

it was. He's like. Did

28:16

he leave the show early once so he could

28:18

go like to the movies on a date or

28:20

out in the theater or something? Yeah, and I've had

28:23

to go dancing. So I was like, what? What? He

28:25

was saving up all day for enough

28:27

and I had an ambulary technique for

28:29

now. It is funny to see,

28:32

but you don't wanna judge people like that

28:34

either because every now and then on TikTok,

28:37

I'll see someone call out some guy in

28:39

a handicap spot and he'll raise his pants

28:41

leg or really doesn't have legs that they're

28:43

fucking titanium. And

28:46

it's like, ooh, so sorry.

28:49

So sorry. So I don't know. You

28:51

never know what people are actually dealing with, what it

28:53

feels like. I've been deathly ill before, but

28:55

if you need to be to run across the room and

28:58

pretend like I was healthy, I could

29:00

do it. I've

29:02

never been so sick that I couldn't at least put

29:04

on a happy face. Yeah,

29:06

I think you're right. What do you

29:08

guys think about ginger? I

29:11

don't have souls. I mean, like

29:13

the rest are beings. Oh, the root. I like

29:15

it. I think you can

29:17

feel. I believe in it. I really

29:19

like, not mincing, but like shaving

29:22

some off in like a stir fry or

29:25

a curry or something. I love ginger. Yeah,

29:29

that's, I was going to say, maybe the reason I have

29:31

such a, I was thinking about this while you guys were

29:33

talking. I think maybe the reason my shits

29:36

are dainty is because I'm a regular consumer

29:38

of ginger. Do you know what the thinking

29:40

is? I do not. What is that?

29:43

Yeah, yeah. Thinking is when you take a

29:46

bit of ginger and you shape

29:48

it and peel it to expose

29:51

the membrane of the ginger root, which is very

29:53

like, yeah. And then you stick

29:55

it in someone's asshole. Thinking with an

29:58

F. Are you sure it's an I? Oh,

30:00

bring me a figgy pudding that kind

30:03

figging. Yeah, I don't like

30:05

I got the name for it, but yeah.

30:08

But I don't know fashion, please.

30:11

Tuesday. So

30:13

you eat ginger. What do you get from

30:15

putting the ginger up your butt? Is this

30:17

a sexual thing or not? You'll go. Yeah.

30:20

Validation. Eating ginger or smell ginger. Yeah.

30:23

It's like garlic times 10 is a wasabi.

30:25

I think it's related to wasabi, even the

30:27

wasabi is made from. I don't know if

30:29

you've had that, but it's very intense, pungent,

30:32

uncomfortable and overwhelming. I would

30:34

say sort of flavors and

30:36

chemical things are happening. It's

30:39

like that, but your butthole. So it's

30:41

really hurting and being like a comfortable

30:43

thing. It's it. It's

30:46

it's figging. I hear. But

30:48

what what people do it, is it a

30:51

health remedy or? No, it's a BDSM practice

30:53

thing. Oh, now I get it for some.

30:55

Yeah. Oh, you're being serious. Did

30:59

you think this is made up?

31:01

This is this is like a

31:03

guru health kind of thing. No,

31:05

no, dude's everywhere sticking ginger roots

31:07

up their ladies' buttholes and being

31:09

like, you'd like that, you dirty

31:11

whore. Why was that? You're

31:14

taking out daddy. Take it out. No, you're

31:16

figuring all the way tonight. Sorry,

31:18

I lost it. You're your

31:20

asshole gobbled it up. I

31:24

guess you're the good thing. I brought more a

31:27

piece of skin to ginger root into the

31:29

human anus in order to generate an acute

31:32

burning sensation. Historically, this was the method of

31:34

punishment, but it has since been adopted by

31:36

as a practice of BDSM. Oh, yeah. Everything

31:38

Kyle said. Unreal. You're so educated

31:41

sometimes. Yeah, I know, man. I know it

31:43

all. I guess Caleb knew that, too. He's

31:45

an educated guy with a lot of thinking. Yeah, it

31:47

I'm the worst person to show an Internet video to like

31:50

people will lean their phone toward me and I'll

31:52

get a glance of it. And I'll be like,

31:54

yeah, they're like, hey, I don't know what he what is

31:57

that on the street? And I'll glance and I'll be like, he fell off

31:59

his bicycle. The truck ran out. nervous head, his brain splattered out.

32:01

If you look to the right a woman's about to approach

32:03

and react strangely. So

32:05

many times, dude, that's memorized. That's in my in the

32:07

core of my brain. That's a good thing. I've seen

32:09

all the internet videos. I run Reddit,

32:11

I probably did

32:13

your phone tell you Woody every night, like every

32:16

week, it gives my phone gives me a health

32:18

update every week. And it's like, how much screen

32:20

time I've had and various apps. I

32:22

don't even want to look. I

32:25

don't want to look either. And it's my laptop

32:27

that does it for me, but it's the same

32:29

thing. It's an Apple laptop and dozens

32:31

of hours a week. You know, it's really

32:33

like that. I think that's passive aggressive. I

32:35

don't want my technology telling me or guilty.

32:37

Yeah, reminding you Hey, guess what? Did you

32:40

know that you spent 50 hours

32:42

on YouTube this week? It's like you fucking

32:44

a loser. Keep it to you. Yeah. In

32:46

my, in my defense, I was asleep for

32:48

some of those. Oh,

32:51

now that's fair. I sleep to YouTube playing

32:53

continuously. So at night when I go to

32:55

sleep, I switched to my guest profile, because the

32:57

algorithm stupid, and I put it on my thunderstorm

32:59

music, just thunderstorm noises.

33:02

And but but so it's playing

33:05

the entire time I'm asleep. And my

33:07

most watched app, you know, isn't

33:09

Netflix or Hulu or HBO or even

33:11

Plex. It's YouTube. Yeah.

33:15

Yeah. What does it say in silent

33:17

scale? Or do you do you need something on? I

33:20

fall asleep reading the Bible every single night.

33:23

Good for you. Let's say it's all your favorite

33:25

versus screen. No, I'm

33:27

actually new to it. I'm still learning. I'm in the

33:29

Old Testament right now. Oh, but

33:31

you wish part. You know, it gets better.

33:33

You want to get the fun part estimate

33:35

the new test. I'm telling that guy dies.

33:38

Yeah. No

33:42

idea. There's no amount of

33:44

Exodus that you're gonna be like,

33:47

all right, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip,

33:49

because there's a lot of so and so

33:51

begat, begat, how can you get Exodus and

33:54

feel like God's the good guy anymore when

33:56

he hardens Pharaoh's heart? It's

33:58

it's it's a a villain?

34:01

The fact that God, so for the uninitiated

34:04

here, the made up idea,

34:06

sorry, historians, that

34:09

the pyramids are built by Jewish slaves

34:11

that were held by Egyptians, and

34:13

then God came with us and helped

34:16

Moses with the plagues out to force the

34:19

pharaoh to, like Charlton Heston said,

34:21

let my people go. Well,

34:25

if that happened, even the way it happened

34:27

in the Bible is after

34:29

several really awful plagues. I don't know,

34:31

frogs are raining from the sky. I

34:34

think the Nile turned to

34:37

blood. There's locusts and stuff.

34:39

The pharaoh is like, all right, you know

34:42

what? Moses was not full of shit at

34:44

all. We prayed to Ra all day, nothing.

34:47

And here come the frogs again. Here come

34:49

the frogs again. He's made up

34:52

his mind. And God goes, oh, did you change

34:55

your mind? Did you too

34:57

bad? Cause these plagues come in a

34:59

set and I got a few more

35:01

coming. So I'll

35:04

harden your heart, change your mind, basically like influence

35:06

you in such a way that you are not

35:09

even the bad guy anymore. I am.

35:12

That's what God does. Pharaoh was going to let

35:15

the Jews go. And God was like, no, don't

35:17

let them go yet. I'm not done with you.

35:20

I hear approval. You gotta get to

35:22

that new Testament, new test. When Jesus

35:24

shows up, it all turns around the

35:26

sermon on the Mount. Yeah. Sermon on

35:28

the Mount, the beat attitudes, Matthew five

35:31

way to way better, you know, yeah,

35:34

I don't know why the old Testament is

35:36

even included in the Bible. Like you're a

35:38

Christian. The new Testament is infinitely

35:40

more important. Excuse me. The old Testament is what I

35:42

meant to say. I had Jesus Christ. He's like the

35:44

2.0. He like, we put the

35:46

cherry on top. Christianity would be

35:49

a much better religion if you had

35:51

Genesis and then you started the

35:53

new Testament. Yeah. Genesis, Matthew,

35:55

Mark, Luke, just to skip

35:58

all that stuff and go to the apocrypha. Yeah.

36:01

The Apocrypha. Yeah.

36:03

All the all the books like the

36:05

Gospel of Thomas that it's like the

36:07

Council of Nicaea. Did

36:09

Mary Magdalene really have one? Like, is that

36:11

a thing? I've always heard that there

36:13

was a book of Mary. I've heard that.

36:16

I don't know. You know, I think it should be

36:18

for the boys. And by the way,

36:20

what we're getting at here is that when they

36:23

assembled the Bible, it wasn't like,

36:25

oh, yeah, here are here are all the pieces like, you

36:27

know, you open a puzzle box and you've got the right

36:29

number of pieces, hopefully. No, they were

36:31

like, oh, we got to go through all of

36:33

these biblical ish books that were

36:35

written by the biblical historians. Let's

36:38

pick and choose which ones work for

36:40

us. What do you think, John? And

36:42

they horse traded. They horse traded like

36:44

our Senate does. Well, I really hate

36:47

prostitutes. Well, let's get this Leviticus. It

36:49

is. Oh, oh, I want Leviticus in

36:51

there, too, sir. And

36:53

then like someone clearly spoke

36:55

up about slavery parts. I

36:57

was raised in a household that spent more time

36:59

talking about sex than God. So

37:02

when he said the Apocrypha, I

37:05

thought I was like, is this a joke? Because

37:07

I was about to be like, what about the

37:09

Simerillian? Same

37:12

thing. I didn't know. You

37:14

can also know about what

37:16

do you guys know about hermeticism? You ever heard of that?

37:19

No, I'm not familiar with that when you're born with

37:21

both male and female body parts. That's her my for

37:23

that. No, the hermeticism

37:25

has been like blown up. I've been

37:28

seeing tiktoks of people. It's an ancient

37:31

thought process, or I guess it's a religion.

37:33

I'm not sure the Egyptian God, Thoth and

37:37

Greek God Hermes fucked

37:39

and made a guy called Hermes Trismegistus.

37:42

And then they made this thing called hermeticism. Have

37:44

you ever heard of above as above so below?

37:47

Yeah, yeah. The whole like seven. What about the Kibaleon? It's

37:49

like all these a lot of the

37:51

principles of like the the golden the hand

37:54

of the Golden Sun, the Knights Templars, the

37:56

Illuminati, like all these people, it's like you

37:58

have to find heat. hidden knowledge.

38:01

That's that's her medicism kind of like,

38:04

and a bunch of these

38:06

kids on Tik Tok are talking about the

38:08

Emerald tablets holding the secret to life in

38:10

the universe. They're like, it's the power of

38:12

manifestation. Look at this stuff, this ancient book.

38:14

And it's like they're discovered in like the

38:17

1920s and they're not even real. It's out.

38:19

Yeah. A dude in the 1600s.

38:23

So this is like, like, kind of almost

38:26

Mormon adjacent in their finding of it.

38:28

Like they took off and

38:30

her. Yes. And then fused

38:32

them, which frankly, nother thought

38:34

nor Hermes are like the heavy

38:36

hitters of their religion. Right.

38:39

So the idea is is it is

38:41

old. Right. And

38:43

it's like the it's kind of like the

38:45

the precipitation of alchemy. These guys, Hermes Trismegistus

38:48

is like the father of alchemy and

38:50

in some sense. And

38:53

like it's not that it's new

38:55

in terms of Mormonism, Mormonism, new like it

38:57

is very, very, very old. But

39:01

it's like more so a part

39:03

of philosophy. Like I don't know if you guys do a lot of

39:05

reading and stuff, but when you read, I try to read about a

39:07

lot about ethics like a couple of years ago and just try to

39:10

read a bunch. I read it. I started

39:12

with her meat, like as old as possible. The

39:14

hermetic Corpus Hermeticum. And then I went

39:16

to like, you know, a

39:18

bunch of the Greek guys and then

39:20

the Spanish guys as Espinoza

39:24

and then Jesus,

39:26

obviously, the Sermon on the

39:28

Mount in the fields, Soren Kierkegaard, like all

39:31

these different little ethical things. That's how I

39:33

learned about that

39:35

hermeticism. But it's like this bigger,

39:37

weird religion that's based in alchemy and

39:39

mysticism and Gnostism. And there's a tie

39:42

in like a Gnostic Christianity. People are

39:44

practicing it, though. Like I hear about

39:46

I bet there's more people than

39:49

Santo Ria, right? Yeah, I mean,

39:51

it's not really something you I don't really

39:53

know how you would practice it, to

39:56

be honest. Maybe people in like the Illuminati

39:58

would be more so considered.

40:01

to practice that. What is

40:03

what is the moral belief system,

40:05

I guess, of that? So the

40:07

vowels, it's it's it's pretty

40:10

straightforward. It's good. It's like it's very

40:12

ethical. It's like the

40:15

basis of it is that every single person is

40:17

a God themselves. I think I can't really remember,

40:19

but it's like every single person is a God

40:21

themselves and they will eventually realize that. And that's

40:23

how they achieve Nirvana. Like you realize you can

40:25

create your own. You can manifest

40:27

your own reality. And that could

40:29

be interpreted as just like you

40:31

can kind of perceive

40:34

things in a way that

40:36

you can control. So even if you have a negative

40:38

situation, you control the way you react. Is this a

40:40

book of narcissism or narcissism? Narcissism?

40:42

Yeah, it's not the Illuminati talks a lot about it

40:44

now. Do

40:48

you guys have ever been invited to the Illuminati?

40:51

No, not yet. No, I'm irrelevant.

40:54

Uh, dude, I got this in the mail, this

40:56

thing in the mail here. Oh, that's good. I

40:59

don't believe it's legit at all. But it

41:01

also it was if you look up

41:04

Illuminati entrance letter, it's

41:06

it doesn't show up. This doesn't like if you

41:09

like a gag gift, like Illuminati gag gift and

41:11

someone put it in my in

41:13

my mailbox with like calligraphy on

41:15

the front of the thing. And

41:17

it was my address in calligraphy

41:19

with my full name. And

41:22

there was no return address. And

41:24

like my house is like this. It used to live there.

41:26

I don't live there anymore. But it was it was

41:28

very weird. It was very, very, very strange. And I

41:31

still haven't figured out who's pranking me. But

41:33

if I sign it, maybe I'll maybe I'll be

41:36

heavy. I can bring you guys with me.

41:38

Say like it's a full on. Upon

41:41

this eternal oath, I freely pledge to

41:43

dedicate my mind to the discovery of

41:45

knowledge, to dedicate my soul to the

41:47

pursuit of enlightenment, to dedicate my efforts

41:49

to the progress of abundance, to dedicate

41:51

my existence to bringing all people in

41:53

all places into unification. Oh,

41:55

I don't know about that last one. You had me there to the end. That's

41:58

a little little commie. I'm

42:00

a little globalist and

42:02

to dedicate my life and days upon this planet to

42:05

the protection and advancement of the human species on this

42:07

day of. But yeah,

42:09

my girlfriend didn't let me sign it. That's fun. I

42:11

hope you make it, dude. If you get in, can you invite us to

42:13

Bohemian Grove? I'll bring you guys. Yeah, I'll bring you

42:16

guys. Me and Josh Peck. Didn't,

42:19

what is the Nixon quote on bo- you

42:21

know Bohemian Grove is, right? Mm-hmm.

42:24

Like where all the elites and like

42:26

industry titans and the really powerful people

42:28

get together. Alex

42:30

Jones crashed it. Nixon

42:35

got invited and he had

42:37

a quote about it and he said

42:39

it was the most. What

42:42

did he say? It's the most goddamn.

42:46

F slur thing I've ever seen. You

42:50

know, like, I saw that. What do

42:52

you think about Bohemian Grove? Like, it's

42:54

the most goddamn slur

42:56

thing you've ever seen. And

42:59

he did that. What do you struggle with

43:01

F slur? I love it. Yeah, I'm trying

43:03

to figure out how to fix grammatically. Maggie.

43:07

Oh, we're going to get demonetized. Thank

43:09

you. Yeah, I stretched it out. You

43:12

get in if you do. Damn it.

43:15

I legit thought he said Maggie. Maggie. You can say

43:17

it like that. You have to say

43:20

it with levity. Anyway,

43:23

yeah, I don't I don't think

43:25

Nixon was probably wrong. I think it was probably. Not

43:27

a crook. I think he

43:30

just misunderstood Nixon. Was he

43:32

in a. First thing he's been,

43:34

there's better parties than Bohemian, whatever. I

43:37

don't know. In the 70s. See

43:40

if Nixon was in a fraternity. But

43:42

like, because I think of Bohemian Grove and

43:44

like the skull and bones and all that

43:46

stuff is partially there's going to be some

43:49

sort of weird like spanking

43:52

and jerking off and I have some

43:54

type of stuff going on. Sacrificing to

43:56

Moloch. Yeah, yeah, you might sacrifice to

43:58

Moloch. You know, you might have. to

44:00

you might have to perform some sex act, you

44:02

know, on a on a other participant,

44:04

like in that that movie, there was

44:06

like that. It

44:09

was about Bohemian Grove. That's

44:11

really creepy, because there are secret societies like

44:13

like they aren't just nonsense what we're talking

44:15

about. It's we know that the bushes were

44:17

both in the skull and bones thing. And we know that

44:20

part of their ritual is is jerking

44:22

it in a coffin while everybody waits

44:24

outside. So I don't like that. But

44:26

Zach, with his his deep dive

44:28

of knowledge got the full Nixon

44:30

quote. And it is

44:32

Nixon. You know what happened to the

44:35

Romans? The last six Roman

44:37

emperors were fags. Let's

44:39

look at the strong societies, the

44:41

Russians, God damn, they rooted them

44:43

out. It's

44:47

not just the ratty part of the

44:49

town. No, the upper class in San

44:51

Francisco is that way. The Bohemian Grove,

44:53

which I attend from time to time,

44:55

is the most faggy, goddamn thing you

44:57

could ever imagine. But that

44:59

San Francisco crowd, I can't shake hands

45:02

with anyone from San Francisco. That's

45:04

crazy. Man, what a fun guy. He's

45:07

not a guy bastard. No, he's not. He's

45:09

a man of his time. When

45:13

was he born? Nineteen ten. Ten

45:16

would be my call. Nineteen ten

45:18

would be my call on when Nixon was

45:20

born. You know, like

45:24

when people judge those old dudes that that

45:27

were born in other centuries. It's like, come

45:29

on, give them a little leeway here. Yeah,

45:31

I was born in the 90s. Give

45:33

me a break. There you go.

45:35

There you go. All born in another century, another

45:37

time. Who were you born, Taylor? Ninety

45:40

one. OK, I think we had this conversation

45:42

last time, but I forget. Yeah, I'm 33, 30

45:45

trees in old spanked

45:48

at a fraternity. Taylor, anything like

45:50

that? No, no,

45:53

I didn't get left out. Were

45:55

you a frat? Were you a frat? No,

45:57

no. A lot of my buddies were in frats.

45:59

So I would still hang out with that

46:02

crowd, but no, I never got spanked or

46:04

got to spank. Can I

46:06

say, I don't want to be part of an

46:08

organization that involves man on man spanking at the

46:10

beginning. That's rich, rich, realistic and public. I just

46:12

don't want to be part of your group. I

46:15

don't think it's that I looked into fraternity hazing

46:17

rituals on the internet. I was like, there's no

46:19

more secrets. I've always wanted to know what those

46:21

graphs really do. Let's look into it. And

46:23

it wasn't as gay or cool as I thought it

46:25

was. It was all like, I don't

46:28

know. For example, they'd say, Kyle, today,

46:31

when asked, you need to present 27

46:33

cents exact change. If you don't, then

46:36

you have to do pushups. It

46:38

was no jerking off on a pizza. That's a

46:40

lame. No,

46:44

what is right? Cause it

46:46

was funny, the dichotomy in my like friends who

46:48

were in frats, cause some of them I'd be

46:50

like, so what do you guys have to do

46:52

for your fucking hell week? Like the last week

46:55

and getting days. And some of them would be

46:57

like, I can't tell you it's super secret. And

46:59

the other ones would be like, we basically have

47:01

to carry around a plastic bag with a lighter

47:03

joint rolls, an eighth of weed and

47:06

10 cigarettes at all times. So a brother comes

47:08

up and asks for something we can give it to him. And

47:10

if we don't, they like yell at us. Oh,

47:12

and like a couple of nights, they force us to get

47:14

so drunk, it's uncomfortable. And then we still have to

47:16

get all dressed up in our, in

47:18

our Sunday best the next morning at

47:21

5am and go to, uh, you know,

47:23

some like song and dance before class.

47:25

And also the drinking was like only

47:27

semi mandatory. Like if you didn't feel

47:29

well or you just wasn't your vibe,

47:31

they didn't, this is lame. It's not like the

47:34

eighties. Like my dad, I don't want to be

47:36

in the frat because they're pussies. My dad was

47:38

in the frat. You can't, you can't whoop a

47:40

kid. Like, like, I, I expected more spanking. I,

47:42

I, I envisioned jock straps. I

47:44

envisioned some laughing. Okay. I expected some

47:46

kidnapping, putting in the trunk and then

47:49

it transported in there. They have to

47:51

find their way back. I,

47:53

I knew some people who went to Radford, uh,

47:56

which is like a school in, um, Virginia. And

47:59

these, uh, There was a I don't know

48:01

if it was true, but they used scope

48:03

limine, which is like the drug that they

48:05

use in South America. It's like a it's

48:08

like a it's like I think it's a date rape drug technically,

48:10

but it's the one where it makes you influenceable

48:14

to real suggestible. So like you'll do stuff for

48:16

people and that you can

48:18

synthesize it and they synthesize

48:21

it and they like use it on each other. You

48:24

mean when you say they can't advertise it like you

48:26

could make it in your own kitchen? I

48:28

don't know exactly, but I know

48:30

I know I know someone who has synthesized

48:32

scope limine. I believe that's a crime. Oh,

48:36

I imagine it would be. Maybe you never

48:38

know. I don't know. To your point

48:40

about the other frat hazing, my my dad told

48:42

me, because my dad. What

48:45

he was born in mid

48:47

early 60s. And so it

48:49

was a different time when he was going to older than

48:51

me. I

48:54

would have been a real mistake if my dad was your age.

48:58

Yeah, 18. And he was

49:00

saying that something he had to do when he was getting

49:02

hazed for his fraternity is he

49:04

had they they

49:06

made him wear and they're

49:08

everyone in the pledge class where burlap underwear

49:11

for a week straight and

49:14

then like stripped them down into nothing

49:16

but their burlap underwear, drove them blindfolded

49:19

into like a cornfield somewhere. It's the

49:21

Midwest and then just left them in

49:23

a cornfield and like made these men

49:26

in burlap underwear have to wander back

49:28

to campus. And I was like, I

49:31

would. Maybe

49:35

the type three fun, what he said before, but

49:37

like it type two. Type two.

49:39

At the time, I'd be like, fuck these

49:41

guys. Is this. Oh, yeah. Fuck

49:43

is all itchy. My ass doesn't feel good.

49:45

He'd be a little more bonded with your

49:47

brothers, right? Like it's the kind of experience

49:49

that puts you together. I don't hate that.

49:52

I don't want to do it as a grown up, but as

49:54

a college kid, there was a there was a guy when I

49:57

was in school and this wasn't

49:59

technically hazing. But so

50:01

they were a couple of years older than me, that must have

50:03

been because I was a freshman. And my dorm was right next

50:05

to Sigma Chi, that fraternity.

50:07

And they got kicked off campus

50:09

that year because a brother

50:12

in their front yard in

50:14

full view of like a whole party like

50:16

hit one of the pledge, the

50:19

pledge is in the face with a shovel. And

50:21

he had to go to the hospital and like lost

50:23

a bunch of teeth and had a broken nose. And

50:26

that didn't that didn't seem like hazing. That

50:28

seemed like a salt to me. Yeah.

50:31

Yeah. Funny. No, it's really not.

50:33

I say tomato. There's no joke there. There's

50:35

no, haha. Let's all have a good time

50:37

with silly underwear. You can go for easily,

50:40

by the way,

50:43

it's a flower and

50:45

you extract it using water and sort

50:47

of pressing it and making a maybe

50:50

they mentioned a pumice stone. Oh,

50:52

wow. Yeah. Okay. Known

50:55

as devil's breath. You know, it's good.

50:58

You could probably order that flower offline.

51:00

I know that was like DMT. They

51:02

just order that bark

51:05

from Europe and you

51:07

can buy mushroom spores too, but it

51:09

takes more talent to grow than I

51:12

have. Hypothetically, hypothetically. Yeah. Theoretically,

51:15

you could just get them online and grow them

51:17

in a shoe box in your closet.

51:20

Like a friend of mine successfully. Well,

51:22

some people just get friend must be

51:24

a smart guy. He said he put

51:26

it in a wet dirt

51:28

shoe box. And your friends are fungi. Get

51:30

it. Oh, if

51:37

I had mushrooms, I would, I would throw them away.

51:39

Like I wouldn't take them. I don't want any like

51:43

I haven't dabbled in hallucinogens in my

51:46

whole life. I guess I did

51:48

a super small amount of mushrooms in college literally once. And

51:51

other than that, never. And

51:53

at this point, it's like, I think I'm good.

51:55

Like, I don't, I don't really want LSD. I

51:57

don't, you drop acid with me. If I get

51:59

acquire some. Yeah,

52:02

on the pod, not

52:04

on the podcast. A few. Maybe we went to legal

52:07

anywhere like like like Amsterdam is LSD

52:10

legal like Seattle or something. Do it

52:12

and back off. They did mushroom psilocybin.

52:14

I thought and they criminalized everything to

52:16

a certain extent. You

52:20

know what I mean? It means getting back off on that.

52:22

Yeah. What is the common down? I mean what he has

52:24

ketamine. Yeah, I'm out of ketamine.

52:29

I don't

52:31

want to do a drug and then find out like oh, I

52:33

love this. I want to do it all the

52:35

time. Yeah, true. That's how I am. I'm kind of on

52:38

the opposite side. I hope there's no

52:40

more wonderful things in life. I haven't

52:42

touched any drugs or alcohol in five,

52:44

six weeks. I'm good with

52:46

the number I've got now. Is that a joke?

52:51

I'm good with just weed as far as drugs go. I

52:57

feel like a fucking pussy. You smoke weed

52:59

Kyle, allegedly. I mean, I'm smoking some stuff

53:01

right now. You know, I'm at an Olympic

53:03

level. I've got THC a Vapes

53:06

is usually what I what I go with.

53:08

Although I've been smoking some THC a flower

53:11

recently because it's I don't know

53:13

if it seems very potent like a like a little

53:15

hit of it and it makes me wonder because

53:17

I believe the way you make THC a

53:19

flower is you take hip buds and

53:22

you missed it with THC a

53:24

like you're you're so you didn't

53:26

need the hip butts. You

53:29

know what I mean? You could have put it on anything. I

53:31

wish that they would take the THC a spray

53:34

it on real marijuana make

53:37

some double marijuana. That'd

53:39

be powerful. Oh, I want too much.

53:43

What about you? What are you doing drugs? I

53:45

have but I haven't lately and I lied.

53:48

I had a lifesaver yesterday. So my sugar-free

53:50

thing was kind of bullshit. I'm

53:52

avoiding everything right now. A

53:58

lifesaver. Yeah, it was. like a gummy

54:00

lifesaver to not like a. Oh,

54:02

yeah. It was in the pantry that

54:05

you buy these things and it's hard to say no.

54:07

Two weeks ago, I had enough fudge

54:09

to kill a diabetic. You

54:14

guys ever had canopers or noppers? They're

54:16

like a it's like a

54:18

German wafer thing. They're so fucking insanely

54:20

good. It's a candy or a drug.

54:23

It's a drug. It feels like a drug.

54:26

I was a drug. Yeah, I was like,

54:28

it's Kannapa. It's a shrooming frog.

54:31

No, it's a candy. It's

54:33

like a hazelnut, chocolate, milky.

54:36

It's fucking good. It does this other

54:39

square. Now, be honest about

54:41

your question. In my life, I've had ketamine

54:43

mushrooms, pot. Alcohol.

54:45

I think that's it. Yeah,

54:48

I was a stone sober, raw

54:51

dog in life. Straight edge, straight edge.

54:53

That is. Dude, I'm I'm so straight

54:55

edge that it is lame. It's genuinely

54:57

lame. My vice is ginger legitimately. Sounds

54:59

like a joke, but it's not. When's

55:01

your last drop of alcohol? Uh,

55:06

I have no idea. Yeah, I'm

55:08

similar. Just don't enjoy it. I

55:11

don't. Yeah, I the last time I the last

55:13

time I know I drank a beer, which I

55:15

surely have had a drop since then was when

55:17

I turned 21. I had

55:20

I bought a grapefruit beer like an

55:22

IPA or something like that. And I

55:24

was like, this is fucking terrible. And

55:26

then just never drank. And my dad,

55:28

like everyone in my family drinks. Oh,

55:31

I knew so. And that's a terrible

55:33

beer to start on a grapefruit. I

55:35

better on bitter. That's the

55:37

man I can't. I'm a vegetarian. I've never had meat

55:40

in my whole life. I'm going to start with rat.

55:42

Who gave it? Who gave that to you? Uh,

55:45

I don't know. It just looked it looked.

55:47

It looked appealing. I don't know. I've tasted

55:49

other beer before. Like I've tasted different IPAs

55:51

and I don't like light beer. I'd rather

55:53

just drink water. I've

55:56

wondered if someone did to you what I intend to

55:58

do to my son. My son just turned 21. one

56:00

and he wanted to try alcohol. If

56:03

you don't want your kids to drink alcohol,

56:05

I think it's a mistake to like keep

56:07

it from them as this mystery gold over

56:09

the other over the mountain type thing. So

56:12

I'm like, we need to get this kid some Jack

56:14

Daniels, some straight Bob whatever. I want him to just

56:16

hate it.

56:19

I hate it. I got you then.

56:21

Okay. Either Guinness or beer

56:23

or yeah

56:25

Guinness is a very I don't think I

56:27

have to try that hard. You know and

56:29

like give him **** absolute or something like

56:32

he won't yeah do beer. Yeah. Yeah do

56:34

beer cuz I'll tell you right now

56:36

if I had to sit here and drink a 20 ounce

56:38

Guinness, I'd be making a face dude.

56:40

It would be so I mean I'll man up and get

56:42

it down but but I'm gonna hate every **** moment. I

56:44

like it as a teenager. It was one of well, I

56:46

didn't like any of them but I tolerated it more. I

56:49

also like um this is old. I don't know

56:51

they make it but Michelob Dark. We

56:54

used to call it the doctor MD. Okay. It

56:56

was our favorite beer. Get Jack

56:58

Daniels for him then. Jack Daniels is rants.

57:00

Yeah. He's so **** gross. I

57:03

bought a bottle than the thing who

57:06

what? So, what was he drinking in the in the thing?

57:09

Oh, in the thing. Oh, he had a mixed

57:14

drink. He had um maybe

57:16

Jim. Was it Jim

57:18

Beamer's like Jim J. uh Jameson. They're

57:20

all heinous to me. I didn't even

57:23

alright. I'm I'm with you on Jameson now. I think you have

57:25

it. I think it was Jameson. Of

57:28

all those Jack Daniels is the worst. I've

57:30

never had any of them. Yeah. Uh

57:32

I don't like have you smelled them? Yeah.

57:35

Yeah. I can barely get past like I

57:37

smell it and it triggers

57:39

unpleasantness in my mind or get to

57:41

clear and you know like smell ever

57:43

clear and be like this is what

57:45

alcohol is. Oh my god. This is

57:47

the most. I'll take away that pure

57:49

alcohol for you. You can like fire

57:53

with this. That's a

57:55

bad idea because my first uh

57:58

Manhattan or something. Some I'm going to hate it. But

58:00

the second one's great. The second one's great. And everyone

58:02

after that's delicious too. They get better as the night

58:04

goes. So you don't want

58:06

to, if I take a shot of tequila, the second

58:09

shot is going to taste okay. And

58:12

the third one's going to be

58:14

smooth. And the fourth one, I'm

58:16

going to sip a little like

58:18

I'm Antonio Banderas. Like

58:22

I think if you just got a six

58:24

pack of beer, like almost regardless of what kind,

58:26

nobody likes that taste at first. Yeah,

58:29

it's not good. I like Dr.

58:31

Pepper. That's my thing. Yeah. We're

58:34

on this bright zero sugar thing. Yeah. This

58:37

is still on that. Yeah. I haven't

58:39

had it for a long time, but you know, it's vastly

58:41

underrated. Oh, Spindra's good. Taylor's like

58:43

eggnog is great. One.

58:48

I want one. I love the eight. I

58:50

fucking love the eight. My dad loves VA too. If

58:53

I look at the can, I can taste every

58:55

ingredient like, Oh yeah. Tomato celery. I get it.

58:57

I get it. What else is

58:59

in here? Salt. If

59:03

you had a bloody Mary, it's it's it's

59:05

basically eight mixed with vodka. I

59:07

don't know if I haven't spent way long. It

59:10

whenever I would go out with the ladies for

59:12

a brunch and they'd be having those like 11

59:14

a.m. cocktails, I would always get one of those

59:16

because I felt like it was the least likely

59:18

to make me sick. Like

59:20

I didn't like drinking that early, but

59:23

everybody's the morning drink mimosa. Yeah. Yeah.

59:26

Beat the tar out of Bloody Mary's

59:28

because mimosa, a huge percentage of

59:30

it is just orange juice. Like,

59:32

it's mostly orange juice and then a little champagne

59:34

and champagne has so much sugar in it anyway.

59:37

Like it just tastes like a little.

59:39

You ever go into bottomless mimosas? I

59:41

have not in years, but

59:43

I, I, I

59:46

recall the number of times just getting

59:48

it's like, boys, it's

59:51

10 a.m. bottomless mimosas. And then at like

59:53

by 1230, you're like trashed and

59:55

it's like the whole day is wasted. You think

59:58

of all the orange juice you've had. 500

1:00:00

calories of just orange juice.

1:00:05

Not, not ideal. That's one of the problems

1:00:08

with alcohol. Apparently your body is really good

1:00:10

at turning those calories into fat. It's

1:00:13

pure fuel. No gain. It's

1:00:15

the word. Yeah. That's

1:00:17

why weed is better. Like with

1:00:19

the calories from weed all

1:00:22

comes down to self control after the fact where

1:00:24

it's like, this could be horrible if I just

1:00:26

open a bag of chips and eat the whole

1:00:28

thing. Or if I like force

1:00:31

myself to be good, then it's effectively

1:00:33

zero calories, but I'm never like, it

1:00:35

doesn't make me hungry. That's crazy. We

1:00:37

didn't. We doesn't know. No, it

1:00:39

used to. Really? I

1:00:43

bet if I, if I have people ring soup, does it? No,

1:00:46

me not. I mean, it used to make me starving.

1:00:48

I felt like there was a hollow spot, you know,

1:00:50

in my, in the, in the center of my chest

1:00:52

that needed to be filled. Like it genuinely felt like

1:00:54

that. I remember, uh, before we did that

1:00:56

eating contest with Lowe's on or when we, before we went

1:00:59

to the Applebee's that night when I was bait, I, that's how

1:01:01

I felt. You were on Peds for that competition. I,

1:01:04

you some days. Absolutely. I

1:01:06

was. And I, and I came out on

1:01:08

top. Okay. You know, maybe if Joe

1:01:10

had used some performance enhancing drugs, things would have gone better

1:01:12

for him that night, but he didn't. He

1:01:15

didn't. He wasn't hungry enough for it. Any

1:01:18

drugs Caleb or just not, not

1:01:21

your wheelhouse. I ate a

1:01:23

mushroom once didn't feel anything. Uh,

1:01:26

and I have had quite a few secondhand

1:01:28

smoke, uh, marijuana experiences and didn't feel anything

1:01:31

really. Where are the people like blowing it

1:01:33

in my face, trying to get me high

1:01:35

and stuff. One of the

1:01:37

problems with mushrooms is they're inconsistent

1:01:40

in their like efficacy. Some

1:01:42

of the stems are like nothing. And then other times

1:01:45

you think you're weighing them and you're doing

1:01:47

it scientifically, but you're weighing something

1:01:49

consistent. Yeah. What you was in

1:01:52

caps and stems. Have you tried the

1:01:54

candy bars, Woody, the mushroom candy bars? I've never heard of

1:01:56

them. Yeah. So they're very

1:01:58

popular. Um, the last time. I

1:02:00

had mushrooms it was somebody had a candy bar and it looks

1:02:03

like a Hershey's bar, you know, it's that factory

1:02:06

stamped out rectangular bar

1:02:08

of chocolate and on the back It's got a

1:02:10

little guidance for you to read into and it's

1:02:12

like one piece And

1:02:14

it like I don't remember what the verbiage was but it was funny

1:02:16

and by the time you got to eating Three-quarters

1:02:19

of the bar. It was like you

1:02:21

like space trip It

1:02:23

was called like space trip and I ate

1:02:25

three-quarters of that fucking bar and I had

1:02:28

like an existential crisis Really

1:02:30

long time ago involving Walmart and stuff.

1:02:32

No, no that was this

1:02:35

is like a year or two ago When

1:02:37

I ate this candy bar just to smell just

1:02:40

felt so darkly depressed about nothing

1:02:42

in particular It

1:02:44

was just like this is existence. We're

1:02:46

just on this ball. It doesn't matter

1:02:50

That's the worst when you get too high

1:02:53

and like if if you do get that

1:02:55

bafflingly high that you get panicky it's like

1:02:58

You're worried and scared, but you

1:03:00

also have that self-hatred of like

1:03:03

You did this to yourself you fucking

1:03:05

idiot like you you took that many

1:03:08

gummy bears And now you're in a

1:03:10

state where you're like That's

1:03:21

like my daily life I sometimes I wake up in the middle

1:03:23

of the night and I'll just call my parents make sure they're

1:03:25

alive. Oh Probably

1:03:31

My mom is 57 and my dad it just turned

1:03:33

50 My

1:03:37

daughter called me all the time Yeah,

1:03:53

are you having trouble breathing is your left

1:03:55

arm numb It's so

1:03:57

extreme with the sports, you know, we Maybe

1:04:01

you texted me somebody had an accident today

1:04:03

or something. What happened? So on

1:04:05

PKN I described the guy who did the swoop landing

1:04:07

and couldn't get up for an hour. It

1:04:09

turns out he broke a vertebrae. And

1:04:12

that's what it was. He's gonna be okay.

1:04:14

So I interpret it as not being displaced.

1:04:16

If you don't break a lot of bones,

1:04:18

displaced is, the bone can be broken

1:04:20

and you just see it on an x-ray, but it's

1:04:22

still in the shape it's supposed to be. Fractured sort

1:04:24

of. Yeah, well, broken in

1:04:26

two is also called fractured. But

1:04:28

displaced is when they're, now

1:04:31

they're two separate parts and they're not where they used to be. So

1:04:33

I don't think he had that because he's just

1:04:36

on some movement restrictions and he can't lift more

1:04:38

than 10 pounds until August.

1:04:41

And if you're a guy whose life is

1:04:43

like outdoor oriented, to

1:04:45

here in June that like this year's fucked until

1:04:47

August is really a bummer, but that's what he's

1:04:49

got. Could be worse. He's gonna have to get

1:04:51

a sim racer or something. He's

1:04:53

gonna have to like find himself an indoor hobby

1:04:55

because you don't wanna aggravate that. My

1:04:58

dad had the stupidest injury. He was

1:05:00

walking down an embankment to it. This

1:05:02

is years ago to inspect like the

1:05:04

embank but he has a

1:05:06

drainage pipe running under a road.

1:05:08

He's checking for erosion and stuff.

1:05:11

And he slips and falls on

1:05:13

his ass, like butt first, but

1:05:15

he falls pretty far. Like because

1:05:17

it's this skidding thing and

1:05:19

he ruptured a disc in his back.

1:05:22

And it was a huge thing.

1:05:24

Like he was crippled. But

1:05:27

he had to shower

1:05:29

with a chair. He had like a lawn

1:05:31

chair in his shower because he had the

1:05:33

shower seated. He was basically bedridden for months

1:05:35

and months. And finally he found a surgeon

1:05:38

who was like, oh yeah, oh,

1:05:40

he'd fix that. Next week you want

1:05:42

it fixed or this week? And he's like this

1:05:44

week. And they just

1:05:47

went in and nipped the nerve

1:05:49

that was sending the pain to,

1:05:51

you know, and immediately, well,

1:05:53

first of all, the left side of his right foot

1:05:55

went numb forever. But he was like, who cares? like

1:06:00

walking around 100%. They put some sort

1:06:02

of a painkiller that was time released

1:06:04

in the wound. So he was

1:06:06

feeling no pain there. But like the the

1:06:08

the nerve pain from the

1:06:10

ruptured disc was completely gone. So

1:06:13

like he was up and walking and like trying to

1:06:15

get in shape again, like in

1:06:17

two days, like he might have

1:06:19

found the right doctor. I've seen a lot of accidents

1:06:21

and it's crazy. I've seen guys who just we

1:06:24

call it yard sailing, right when like pieces

1:06:26

of your motorcycle fly every fucking where and

1:06:28

you know, like everything scattered and you felt

1:06:30

it's 100 making

1:06:32

I'm exaggerate. We'll say 75 foot accident.

1:06:35

And then that guy just gets up and brushes

1:06:37

himself off. And then there's another guy who like

1:06:40

lands in the seated position and is

1:06:42

not very dramatic to see but he's

1:06:44

partially paralyzed forever. Yeah, you

1:06:46

can't always tell by like

1:06:49

the the instant reaction pressing your spine

1:06:51

is a big deal. And spinal injuries

1:06:53

in general. Now, what

1:06:56

did Paul Lee say? Nobody knows nothing when it comes

1:06:58

to backs like something like that,

1:07:00

like really complex part of our

1:07:02

body. It's I don't think

1:07:04

we were it was designed for upright walking

1:07:06

creatures. It's just

1:07:09

sort of been adapted to our way of all that way.

1:07:11

Yeah. What is it like? So

1:07:13

when you're calling your your parents at two in

1:07:16

the morning, is this something you've

1:07:18

done your entire adult life? Like regular morning?

1:07:20

Did we add that? I added that he

1:07:22

said middle of the night. And yeah, it's

1:07:24

usually their middle of the night so like

1:07:26

late. But yeah,

1:07:28

pretty much pretty much since I moved out.

1:07:30

Yeah, love my parents. They're awesome. That's

1:07:33

great. I got mental illness. That's

1:07:35

okay. That's a good one to have

1:07:37

though. Yeah, yeah, too much. I'm

1:07:40

overly concerned for you. Exactly.

1:07:42

Yeah, I think it's a I think it's

1:07:44

a good good but also bad. I've learned

1:07:46

I've gotten a lot chiller as an adult

1:07:48

man. I was like very just regimented in

1:07:50

like everything and trying to teach people stuff

1:07:52

like getting my dad books to read. So

1:07:55

you didn't have to stress as much because

1:07:57

I could just see as like problems and I'd be like, well, those are

1:07:59

easy to solve. Let me solve them for

1:08:01

you. Obviously, I'm just a fucking ignorant child. Yeah,

1:08:04

but you know give him your

1:08:06

reading list And now he's learning Hermes and

1:08:08

Thoth He's

1:08:10

like who the fuck are these people he's like son,

1:08:13

I love you, but this is not helpful What

1:08:18

does your father do does he still work he

1:08:21

does still work he's a farrier he Was

1:08:24

a clean hoops right? Yeah, he puts

1:08:26

shoes on horses feet and stuff. Oh,

1:08:29

I watch that on YouTube sometimes Yep,

1:08:31

yeah, they release those abscesses. It's

1:08:34

really squirts. Yeah, it's disgusting.

1:08:37

Thanks I kind of don't

1:08:39

get it sometimes and like so

1:08:41

horses aren't supposed to have Hooves you're

1:08:43

just gonna cut all that out or like what wire

1:08:45

hooves so poorly designed that they've got holes in the

1:08:47

middle of them Or you know like pockets that aren't

1:08:49

supposed to be there, right? It's uh

1:08:52

mainly because like so wild horses if

1:08:54

they have so much room

1:08:56

to run They can they shorn

1:08:58

their own feet But since

1:09:00

most horses are in a stable

1:09:02

or you know, they only they're very

1:09:05

controlled in their movement They

1:09:07

can't wear their own feet down. So they'll

1:09:09

grow well, they're gonna go infinitely Yeah,

1:09:12

it's got it's probably part of the shooting

1:09:14

process. I even potentially you know, create you

1:09:17

you know creating an abscess I always thought

1:09:19

and i've never seen it maybe zach can

1:09:21

find a picture of like wild mustangs Hoves

1:09:24

because I think I read that they're like

1:09:26

really splayed out and just overgrown

1:09:28

worldwide. Yeah. Yeah a

1:09:31

lot of times abscesses are just like uh, you

1:09:34

know, they'll step on some something get like a

1:09:36

rock wedged in and like a Spot because of

1:09:38

the the hooves are shorn down like like what

1:09:40

kyle saying and then it'll it's just in a

1:09:43

weak spot And then it slowly gets you know,

1:09:45

they're a thousand pound animal running 30 miles

1:09:47

an hour So it just kind of gets

1:09:50

smashed up into their uh, yeah into their frog and

1:09:52

sometimes a nail or something like that I

1:09:54

wonder if they're real sensitive to the length of the hoof

1:09:56

like Man, one of my one of

1:09:58

my legs is effectively a quarter instance shorter than

1:10:00

the others because the goddamn ferry cut

1:10:02

off too much. My

1:10:05

dad is like that. One of his specialties is

1:10:07

like confirmation. So horses,

1:10:10

he can he can tell based on their

1:10:12

gate, like some who have still leave longer

1:10:14

than others to change their gate to be

1:10:16

more efficient. So like

1:10:18

he's a lot more because he used to

1:10:21

trim mainly racehorses in Northern Virginia. Like

1:10:24

that was kind of his thing. So I was

1:10:26

just going to say without boxing him, like where in the

1:10:28

country is he? He's in

1:10:30

Central Texas with me. He's actually outside in my

1:10:33

house. He watched the dog attack the cow.

1:10:36

But they they have him travel all over to handle

1:10:38

horses in Virginia and such. Not

1:10:41

so much anymore. But back a couple of years

1:10:43

ago when he was a lot

1:10:45

more involved than it, he's trying to retire because

1:10:47

it's a very exhausting job. And

1:10:50

he'd rather just do whatever he wants than

1:10:52

that. So I was like, I'll pay you to just

1:10:54

do whatever you want. Yeah, it just worked out. Yeah,

1:10:57

just it just gets shredded. Stu pull ups.

1:10:59

Good for him. Yeah, that's funny.

1:11:01

You have like a remarkably fit

1:11:03

dad and you're like, you're

1:11:05

alive. Yeah, exactly. I mean,

1:11:08

he's just digging a hole for like three

1:11:10

hours outside. And I'm like over there looking

1:11:12

at and making sure he's upright. And he

1:11:14

could fucking he could outrun me. And there's

1:11:17

no way I could eat. I'm even close to being as

1:11:19

physically fit as he is. Damn. You

1:11:21

got it. I mean, you got the genes for

1:11:23

it, though. You can get you. Yeah. Yeah.

1:11:26

You just got to start eating more than ginger. I

1:11:29

know that's my big deal is I can't eat much. I

1:11:32

can't eat much. No, I'm just a week. Yeah,

1:11:34

not or I wouldn't say no

1:11:36

appetite necessarily, but I don't like to eat

1:11:39

when I don't like to be full. Really,

1:11:41

because I have like I get, I

1:11:44

guess I have what's called OCD of thought

1:11:46

like like a in sometimes

1:11:48

I'll have like a thought and then I just

1:11:50

can't stop thinking that thought. And sometimes that thought

1:11:52

is when I eat, I'm like, oh, I'm going

1:11:54

to throw up. So then

1:11:56

I just start thinking that a lot. I

1:11:59

think it's called. an eating disorder,

1:12:01

honestly, but I don't

1:12:03

know. And I'm much

1:12:05

better than I always have been. And

1:12:08

I feel like it's it's good. I'm the heaviest I've ever been.

1:12:10

I weigh 159 pounds right now, which is pretty awesome. So

1:12:13

that's what other thoughts do you have that you can't shake?

1:12:17

I used to think that I was going to kill myself a lot

1:12:21

or never any. Yes,

1:12:23

yes. Like I was going to kill myself or like when I

1:12:25

would be driving, I'm like, I'm just going to drive off the

1:12:27

road right now. And then I'd be

1:12:29

like, Oh, this is so. And

1:12:32

yes, I could delete myself. Yeah.

1:12:34

Everyone on the road is thought like I've

1:12:36

never thought like I should do. Yeah. And I thought like I

1:12:39

could. Yeah. Bill Burr has

1:12:41

a bit about that, where he's like just thinking like

1:12:43

you could change, you could be on the news. You

1:12:46

could like. Yeah, it's

1:12:48

so weird. Why were you like?

1:12:51

Was something wrong or was just a

1:12:53

thought that you couldn't

1:12:55

shake? I I

1:12:58

don't know. I think there's always been something

1:13:00

very wrong with me, to be honest. But

1:13:04

yeah, it's just yeah, it's just like a lot of

1:13:06

things that I feel like are bad and I shouldn't

1:13:09

think about. I think about them a lot. Not as

1:13:11

much now, fortunately. And it rarely ever has to do

1:13:13

with like killing people. Yeah, yeah.

1:13:15

I was all right. I was asking when I was an

1:13:17

accountant, I used to sort

1:13:20

of do this, like cost benefit of different injuries.

1:13:22

Like if I broke a leg. Oh,

1:13:24

yeah. I don't think I'd miss any work at all.

1:13:26

But if I broke an idea, I better get like

1:13:28

six weeks off. That's how much I hate my job.

1:13:33

Yeah, I've I can't remember what

1:13:35

I was watching. The guy wants painkillers. Oh,

1:13:37

it's House. I remember there's an episode of House

1:13:39

where he's trying to hurt himself in such

1:13:41

a way that they'll actually prescribe him painkillers

1:13:43

at a clinic somewhere, and I think

1:13:45

he breaks a bone or something. And they're trying to

1:13:47

give him Tylenol. Losing

1:13:50

his fucking life. He will say that it's one

1:13:52

of the reasons I don't. One of

1:13:54

the reasons I think I don't like kind of subconsciously

1:13:56

like to drink or anything like that or do anything

1:13:58

kind of crazy because. I feel like I would

1:14:00

just like go into it balls deep, just get

1:14:03

crazy with it. Did you get this? Real good

1:14:05

at it. Like these thoughts as a

1:14:07

kid, invasive thought. Yeah,

1:14:09

yeah, yes, yeah, I would say so. Yeah, I

1:14:11

had a I wouldn't say

1:14:14

a psychotic break or maybe a nervous breakdown would

1:14:16

be a good would be a good, good

1:14:18

description when I was like 15 years old. Had

1:14:21

a bit of a bit of a existential

1:14:23

crisis, if you will. And I feel like

1:14:25

pretty much since then, yeah. What was the

1:14:27

nature of it? What was the impetus? I

1:14:30

was I was reading a lot of books

1:14:33

and I just started to get incredibly obsessed

1:14:35

with like nihilism and like just

1:14:37

thinking that stuff didn't didn't matter and

1:14:39

like wondering what motivated people. And

1:14:42

I just felt like there was no motivation. And then

1:14:44

one day while driving, I had a

1:14:46

horrible panic attack and I didn't know

1:14:48

what it was. So I associated it

1:14:51

with a lot of different things. So

1:14:53

it's like basically from that point on,

1:14:55

I couldn't go into a vehicle without

1:14:57

having a panic attack or think certain

1:14:59

thoughts without immediately going into like a

1:15:01

full on panic attack. And then

1:15:03

that just like led into me becoming because

1:15:06

of the physical stress of that being

1:15:09

very depressed and like dissociating for a

1:15:11

long time and trying to read books and then combining

1:15:14

that with like negative ideology and

1:15:16

negative philosophy just caused a really

1:15:18

bad sort of negative.

1:15:20

It's a rough time. Yeah, it was also

1:15:23

the other side. Um.

1:15:26

I don't know, to be honest, I think just like I

1:15:30

wasn't like scared, really, or anything, or

1:15:32

I think it's just the

1:15:34

whole time I was always trying to better everything that

1:15:36

I was doing. And I was like, I just like

1:15:38

there's no reason for me to not do the things

1:15:40

that I need to do. Right. Like there

1:15:42

was a time when I first started YouTube where

1:15:45

I would play these stupid games, I would

1:15:47

literally have to take a cold shower to

1:15:50

be able to form thoughts where I could

1:15:52

like speak and like direct my energy for

1:15:54

an extended period of time without just feeling

1:15:56

like, oh, God, I'm like, I'm just panicking

1:15:58

all the time. I would

1:16:00

take a cold shower specifically so I can think for like

1:16:03

a couple hours. So

1:16:05

I really don't know how I got out to the other

1:16:07

side, but I feel great now. I feel very good and

1:16:09

I feel stable and have for a long time.

1:16:11

I've been through therapy and all that stuff. And

1:16:15

I think really what it comes down to is like feelings.

1:16:19

So like feeling like you don't really

1:16:21

have control over something. That's like

1:16:24

how I always feel basically. That's like my

1:16:26

innate sense. That's my innate feeling that I

1:16:28

feel. And I think having

1:16:30

like a lack of faith or confidence

1:16:32

in myself is like the root of all that

1:16:34

stuff. And since I've

1:16:37

started to actively have faith

1:16:39

in myself and like choose to feel a sense of

1:16:41

faith, not necessarily in like a deity or a god

1:16:43

or anything like that, but feel like, Oh, this will

1:16:45

work out. I've never felt like that

1:16:47

before. And when I started to actively do that, I

1:16:50

think I felt started to feel better and like I

1:16:52

could actually control my mind a

1:16:54

little bit. When you went to therapy, did

1:16:57

you stick with the first therapist you saw or

1:16:59

did you bounce around until you found one you

1:17:01

thought was a perfect fit? First

1:17:03

one. Is

1:17:05

that how you do it again if you were a therapist?

1:17:08

I feel like that guy was really cool

1:17:11

because he had a

1:17:13

lot of respect. Like I

1:17:15

came very prepared. So

1:17:18

like I had read a lot of books

1:17:20

and already was trying to learn like cognitive

1:17:22

behavioral therapy and like all the stuff to

1:17:25

help myself. And I

1:17:27

was just like, how do I do this stuff?

1:17:29

Like I'm trying to do this and I'm trying

1:17:32

to be, you know, like you're the guy who

1:17:34

is supposed to help me. And he just gave

1:17:36

me like a really specific regiment that I could

1:17:38

actively follow and it helped almost instantaneously. So

1:17:41

he gave me the regiment

1:17:43

look like I'm not following. So

1:17:46

the regiment, first off, I told them

1:17:48

that I wouldn't take drugs because

1:17:50

I feel like that that would sort of the

1:17:53

logic for me there, which I don't think this is

1:17:55

a good, healthy thing to feel. But I feel like

1:17:57

if I if I were to take SSRIs or something

1:17:59

to help with the. depression or like

1:18:01

anxiety or uncontrollable thoughts than

1:18:03

I would have lost, which

1:18:06

is not a healthy mindset by any means, but

1:18:08

it is something that I would have eventually conceded

1:18:11

to, but it helped enough to where I never

1:18:13

had to worry about that again. So what he

1:18:15

prescribed was, or he didn't really prescribe it, but

1:18:17

he suggested that I journal very

1:18:19

consistently and try to make

1:18:22

note of my thoughts more

1:18:25

so like whenever I would

1:18:27

have any kind of thought to just write

1:18:29

it down so it's real. So I realized

1:18:31

things that I'm thinking instead of just like

1:18:33

having this crazy avalanche of just shit that's

1:18:35

always going on and mainly

1:18:38

to be able to reflect

1:18:40

on things. So like when I'm doing something

1:18:42

positive, having those positive

1:18:44

things be able to actually stick out instead

1:18:47

of working against myself, that was the main thing.

1:18:49

He called it ants, which there's a book about

1:18:51

that. It's like automatic negative thoughts. Even

1:18:54

if your life is 60% good, 40% bad,

1:18:58

the relative or

1:19:00

subjective, you're going to focus on the

1:19:02

40% bad. And when you're in a bad spot, you're going to

1:19:05

focus on the 40% bad 100% of the time. And

1:19:09

obviously I knew that I'm

1:19:11

just a fucking regular ass white dude with parents

1:19:13

who are awesome and I have all this stuff

1:19:15

and I'm not rich or anything like that, but

1:19:17

I have no reason to feel this way. So

1:19:20

I knew that if I applied this stuff, I could eventually

1:19:22

reason and being able to reason

1:19:24

started with being able to control

1:19:26

my thoughts by getting them out of my

1:19:29

head. Doesn't

1:19:31

that's what I can relate to the

1:19:34

success yet not fully happy

1:19:36

sometimes. And

1:19:39

it sounds like you do what I do

1:19:41

sometimes, which is completely invalidate unhappy vibes. It's

1:19:44

like, oh man, this fucking sucks. Who

1:19:46

are you to complain? You have a heated day.

1:19:48

Fuck shit. And

1:19:50

now you're not happy. How many people would want

1:19:52

to wake up today and not go to work

1:19:55

your daily fucking day, you asshole. And

1:19:58

it just, there's this. a

1:20:00

little hint at my inner

1:20:02

dialogue. Yeah. Like a

1:20:04

perspective shift. And by the way, if

1:20:07

someone is in a crisis and they feel

1:20:09

bad and they're depressed, it's not a good

1:20:11

thing to approach them with, I've learned. It's

1:20:13

like, hey, there's fucking people dying and starving

1:20:15

everywhere. They're like, I know. It

1:20:18

works really well on me and obviously

1:20:20

you, but yeah, the perspective shift is

1:20:23

a super powerful tool. Yeah. And

1:20:25

that focus on the negative thing, I used to do

1:20:27

that much better now. But

1:20:29

there was a time, see my YouTube

1:20:32

comments were 95% positive. Oh

1:20:34

yeah. I'm deaf to those, right? The 5%

1:20:36

that told me what I did wrong. Sick

1:20:40

of pants. Mm hmm. I'm

1:20:42

sorry. I didn't understand your word. Sick of

1:20:44

pants. Sick of pants. Yeah.

1:20:46

No, you're right. And then the 5% that had

1:20:48

something negative to say those fires. Yeah.

1:20:52

I'm like, oh, there's food sellers. Sick

1:20:54

of pants. Sick

1:20:56

of pants lives. Yeah. I always,

1:20:59

whenever people shit on me, I always read it and

1:21:01

try to find parts, try to be objective

1:21:03

and find parts that are valid. There's

1:21:06

a Reddit called YouTube drama and

1:21:09

sometimes my content is adjacent to that Reddit and

1:21:11

they'll talk shit about me. They hate me and

1:21:14

I'll read it. I'm like, man, some of

1:21:16

this stuff is very valid. This

1:21:18

makes sense. I get it. And

1:21:20

I'm not going to change obviously, but it does. I

1:21:24

get it though. I completely understand. I

1:21:27

don't know. I've got a lot of respect for

1:21:29

hitting on myself. I

1:21:32

just happened to think it's a good tool. Yes.

1:21:34

I uploaded an unlisted video. It was about a sick

1:21:37

fish asking for help and it made

1:21:39

me look at the ratings for last week's episode, which

1:21:41

were really bad. And I was like,

1:21:43

ah, what happened there? I didn't walk away thinking it

1:21:45

was bad. And the

1:21:47

comments were just shitting on all of us.

1:21:50

We had an interruption problem. I think our

1:21:52

guest had a tech issue. So

1:21:54

he couldn't tell when we were talking and he kept

1:21:56

talking over us. But

1:21:58

the comments blamed us. us entirely. They

1:22:00

were like, you keep interrupting your guests. Like

1:22:03

what with the middle of my sentence? Really?

1:22:05

That's not how I remember it. And

1:22:07

I would like go out of my way to silence myself as

1:22:09

soon as he interrupted me and it was a challenge,

1:22:12

but the comments were

1:22:14

not kind to us. And he was, he

1:22:17

would, he would take over a conversation and

1:22:19

go and go and go and go. And

1:22:21

you couldn't interrupt him because he wouldn't hear

1:22:24

your interjection for like four seconds. So then

1:22:26

there'd be back and

1:22:28

forth nonsense. That was all him. That's

1:22:31

not the guy. So I

1:22:33

read those and I was like, all right, all

1:22:35

right. I need to stop. I think that they're

1:22:37

actually incorrect this time, but I don't know.

1:22:40

I want to be like, give me a timestamp. Show me the

1:22:43

time that I did the interrupting, you know, cause I, I, that's

1:22:45

not how I remember it, but I can be wrong. Yeah.

1:22:48

It does suck to get criticized and

1:22:50

be like, damn, they're

1:22:53

not only right. They're entirely

1:22:55

right. Yeah. Perfect.

1:22:58

Cause it's like, uh, you know, there's so

1:23:00

much, there's so much that goes into the

1:23:03

way people perceive things and perception is not

1:23:05

reality. So it's like weird. I don't know.

1:23:07

It's really, I don't know. It's

1:23:09

very impersonal. Yeah. But

1:23:12

fuck them. Liars. Sick of

1:23:14

ants. All the mean comments. Zach,

1:23:17

delete all the mean comments on

1:23:19

this one. Anything with a negative

1:23:21

connotation. Bumble those people. All

1:23:23

of them that aren't overwhelmingly nice. Yeah.

1:23:28

Yeah. They didn't like the show.

1:23:30

And then, and I think the, I thought our guest

1:23:33

was a really good storyteller, but the technical difficulty, I

1:23:35

think was the root of the conversational issues. Yeah,

1:23:38

it was a tech thing for sure. But

1:23:40

I was speaking of, you were talking about

1:23:42

like the neurotic thinking Caleb

1:23:45

you'd have as a young person, teens. Like

1:23:48

I remember being so consumed with fear over the

1:23:53

like my loved ones dying and being so consumed

1:23:56

with fear over the

1:24:00

going to hell at the

1:24:02

age of like six, seven, eight, like all

1:24:04

the way up to like 12 that it

1:24:07

would like sleepless nights as like an

1:24:09

11 year old being like, my grandparents

1:24:11

are going to die and

1:24:13

there will be no way for me to know

1:24:15

if they're burning for all eternity or if they're

1:24:17

not. And I would just walk around day to

1:24:19

day and be like, Taylor, did you do your

1:24:21

reading homework? And I'm like, you're

1:24:24

going to die. What if

1:24:26

I'm learning about life? Yeah. I

1:24:28

don't want to die and go to hell.

1:24:30

Yeah. Hope I make it to heaven. Is

1:24:32

there a way to know? Yeah. That,

1:24:35

that was so, so panic inducing for so

1:24:37

long. My mom took me to a, like

1:24:40

a kid therapist when I was like 11

1:24:42

or 12 for that. And it was

1:24:45

so unhelpful because he was like, uh,

1:24:48

like even looking back, like it was

1:24:51

a Christian therapist. Frankly, even like a normal

1:24:53

Christian would have been like, he's cut it

1:24:55

out. Like stop worrying about like going all

1:24:57

the time. Like that's, that's ridiculous. Like it's

1:24:59

not a normal person would do, but I

1:25:01

remember specifically sitting in that office and being,

1:25:03

he's like, what's, what's the issue? My mom's

1:25:05

in there too. And I'm like, I just

1:25:07

can't, I can't stop obsessing over how everyone

1:25:10

is going to die around me and either go to

1:25:12

hell and burn for all eternity or not. And there's

1:25:14

no way for me to know after they die, what's

1:25:16

going to happen. He was like looking at his paper

1:25:18

and he's like, hmm, that's a very real fear.

1:25:23

That's why it's important to worship. It was

1:25:25

stressful. That guy stressed me out for like

1:25:27

a whole other year after that. Making you

1:25:29

to me. I'd have been like, none of

1:25:32

this shit's real bro. They're going to get

1:25:34

eaten by worms and that's the end of their

1:25:37

existence. I wouldn't have helped them. I'm here to

1:25:39

help. No, it's so easy to fix that when you

1:25:41

say, Hey, what did they tell you about God? That

1:25:43

he's all good, right? And he sees everything and

1:25:46

he knows everything. And let me ask you so

1:25:49

is your grandmother a good person? Yeah.

1:25:52

Well, she's got nothing to worry about then

1:25:54

does she? Cause he sees all that. If

1:25:56

you think that you see how good she

1:25:59

is, just imagine. How much

1:26:01

he loves see you would have helped me times

1:26:03

more than you have. A peer

1:26:05

of the therapist. Not the one thing. And

1:26:07

then I was not the worm thing. The

1:26:10

level would he's 11. He can't he can't

1:26:12

handle the truth yet. That

1:26:15

would be all. Yeah, they they put

1:26:18

me on SSRIs for like a six,

1:26:20

seven month period. When you were a

1:26:22

child or what it was. Yeah. When I was a

1:26:24

kid, I think it made me into a weirdo like

1:26:27

because you're a bit it and you should. That's what

1:26:29

it is. Wasn't me. It wasn't intrinsic. And

1:26:31

they put me on it and it

1:26:34

was during fifth grade holding in fifth grade 11. Yeah,

1:26:36

like around there. So like I was on

1:26:38

it for like most of that fifth grade

1:26:40

school year. I have the I

1:26:44

have no memories. I have

1:26:46

no distinct memories of fifth grade. Like

1:26:49

that's awesome. Kindergarten year, fourth grade, sixth grade

1:26:51

through 12th grade. I can think if I

1:26:53

got a hazard, I can't like what's

1:26:56

a third grade memory? I can like close my eyes,

1:26:58

think I can picture what seat I was at, like

1:27:00

where my teacher was like something that happened with a

1:27:02

friend. But fifth grade, it's it's

1:27:04

blank. I was it was

1:27:07

awful. I would love to lose fifth grade. That

1:27:09

was the year they bullied me for

1:27:11

fixing my hair, walking pigeon toed and blinking

1:27:13

too much. Yeah, that was a terrible year.

1:27:16

You know what I do in fifth grade?

1:27:19

9-11. Oh, yeah. That

1:27:23

was my point. You want to say. Yeah,

1:27:25

it was ninth grade for me. It

1:27:27

was it was a sad day, though. Sad

1:27:30

day. Yeah, really. Everybody was bummed out. We didn't

1:27:32

leave school either. We just had to sit through

1:27:34

it. I mean, it happened so

1:27:36

early in the Midwest that like it was basically

1:27:38

an off day. Like get to school 30 minutes

1:27:41

a time. You know, 9-11

1:27:44

go home. Well,

1:27:46

I think George Bush came in. We

1:27:48

were listening. We were listening to

1:27:50

the radio and driver's ed. You know,

1:27:52

when it got broadcast, when they come,

1:27:55

whenever they cut into, you know, the the

1:27:57

70s music or whatever we were listening to. And

1:28:00

then we turned the TVs on and watched. Did you know

1:28:02

it was a big deal at the first plane? I

1:28:07

don't know if I don't

1:28:09

remember if the

1:28:12

first thing we might have heard was that there

1:28:14

were two planes. Because I do remember the

1:28:17

coach who was like the driving instructor being

1:28:19

like, I bet it's a little bit London.

1:28:22

I swear to God, he said that. Although

1:28:25

to be fair, he's like the only terrorist whose

1:28:27

name you know, right? I didn't know his

1:28:29

name before 9-11. He

1:28:32

did. I guess he was

1:28:34

the Al-Qaeda guy. I'm sure he watched Fox

1:28:36

News. He took out a boat or something during

1:28:38

Clinton's term. Wow,

1:28:40

they step up from a boat to

1:28:43

the World Trade Center. It is a

1:28:45

big shift. And he didn't

1:28:47

think he just did a lot then. How did he get that

1:28:49

Building 7 though? How

1:28:51

did he get that? He

1:28:54

only gets an assist for that one. I think he

1:28:56

might have taken down four buildings in New York. Am

1:28:58

I right about that? Could have been five. Who's

1:29:01

to say? What did I have last week?

1:29:03

9-11. I didn't have

1:29:05

an early meeting. So I was driving to work

1:29:08

and the first plane hit the tower. Cool. I

1:29:11

get to work and people are just learning.

1:29:13

And I'm like, yeah, whatever. I've known this

1:29:15

for 40 minutes already. It's no big deal.

1:29:17

One plane hit a building. It was probably

1:29:19

an accident. And everyone else instantly knows this

1:29:21

is a big deal. And I'm like, fires

1:29:24

happen all the time. Quit

1:29:26

your belly aching. And then a second plane

1:29:28

hits. And now I'm shocked. Now I'm like,

1:29:31

people are purposely ramming planes into buildings. It

1:29:33

took two buildings for me to realize this

1:29:35

is a pattern. And

1:29:37

it wasn't long after that the Pentagon

1:29:39

got hit. And now I'm concerned the

1:29:41

internet at that time wasn't what it

1:29:43

is now. Today we'd all be watching

1:29:45

live stream video. It'd be no problem.

1:29:47

Oh yeah. Yeah. But. Chicka-ting. Yeah, we're

1:29:49

getting the TikTok of the fight against

1:29:51

the hijackers. Back at that point. Yeah.

1:29:53

Back at that point. You know, like

1:29:55

if one person CNN feed was actually moving

1:29:58

and every other computer in the office. office

1:30:00

wasn't getting refreshed. So we're all crowding

1:30:02

behind the one that worked and nothing

1:30:04

I didn't I wasn't getting live news updates. But I

1:30:06

was on the phone with my wife and she's like

1:30:08

the tower collapsed. And I was

1:30:10

I wish I could take

1:30:13

it back. I'm like collapsed. How

1:30:16

collapsed? And she's like,

1:30:18

it's falling. It's falling at all three

1:30:20

fall speed. And I

1:30:22

was just like all of it fell.

1:30:24

How tall is it now? Like the

1:30:30

top stories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she's like,

1:30:32

I don't know how tall it is now.

1:30:34

Maybe like one story when it

1:30:36

all comes. I was like, Oh, my God. Real

1:30:39

wide ground floor. But you got your

1:30:41

wife doing like mental math evaluations. It

1:30:45

takes 110 stories and remove all the

1:30:47

air. Maybe it's two stories tall. Boy

1:30:50

next to it. Yeah.

1:30:55

Yeah, 911. Never forget. Never

1:30:57

forget. I can't really remember. Forget

1:31:00

what? You know, that's not

1:31:02

nice. Oh, you don't you never even remembered

1:31:04

911 once. I

1:31:07

mean, I remember the day that it happened. I guess I

1:31:09

was like six or some shit like that. I was walking

1:31:11

around. He's like, he's

1:31:14

mad. Dude,

1:31:16

so you said there were a lot of it

1:31:20

like for school. I was

1:31:22

sad. It wasn't okay to laugh. Sports

1:31:24

were canceled. Like, funny shows

1:31:27

weren't on. It was like everyone was like,

1:31:29

Oh, my God, something so horrible happened. We're

1:31:31

supposed to be grieving. I remember talking to

1:31:33

neighbors privately. And we're all like, I don't

1:31:36

even know how to be me. Like, I'm not supposed

1:31:38

to smile right now. It's weird. Yeah, yeah, that's

1:31:40

exactly what it was. It was like a

1:31:43

national week of morning. And it felt fitting.

1:31:45

It was, it was it

1:31:47

was a very serious time. No, there

1:31:49

weren't anyone who was joking around about

1:31:51

it got taken care of. Like

1:31:54

comedians complain about like, can't say

1:31:56

this can't say that now. Okay,

1:31:59

maybe a case. I've seen it happen two or three times. I

1:32:01

just don't think you could have done 9 11 jokes on 9 12

1:32:03

and gotten hurt. You

1:32:08

can even dance in the street. They

1:32:12

were dancing in the streets in Palestine. Everybody gets that. Maybe

1:32:15

a little dancing in the street, right? Yeah.

1:32:19

Trump said there was, I believe him. He

1:32:23

wouldn't lie. He knows. I've never heard

1:32:25

of him being the best. I've never

1:32:29

heard of him being untruthful.

1:32:31

No, someone that old, you

1:32:34

get there by truth telling. Oh, the debate's coming up.

1:32:36

I know you're so we have on it. I'm

1:32:40

going to watch. Can't wait. I'm

1:32:43

going to watch it after the show. I guess it'll be. How

1:32:45

long is it? Like how long are

1:32:48

they supposed to be like an hour? I was

1:32:50

going to say 90 minutes is a good estimate. I

1:32:52

don't know for sure. Enormous number of ads in

1:32:54

that block. So probably like 45, 40

1:32:57

minutes of them talking. Maybe if that. I

1:33:00

think you might be overestimating the ads. The

1:33:02

ads. Oh, okay. Yeah. I

1:33:04

want RFK to go debate him. He

1:33:07

officially didn't qualify. I read it. He's only

1:33:09

like 7% or something like that. I don't

1:33:11

like them. I don't

1:33:13

like listening to them. Yeah. Every

1:33:16

so often, I'll like try to turn on a

1:33:18

podcast or something. And this guy is just speaking

1:33:20

this alien throat clearing. Like I can't take it.

1:33:24

Was he a snake person? I

1:33:27

like that he's jacked for a 70 year old. That's

1:33:30

all I admire. But

1:33:32

I don't I don't like the anti

1:33:35

gun stuff. No, thank you, sir. I

1:33:38

like that he wants to get rid of the CIA

1:33:41

and said that the CIA killed his uncle and father.

1:33:44

I heard Schwarzenegger talk about that.

1:33:46

And I've adopted his

1:33:48

opinion. He's like, you know, you got

1:33:50

to understand where this guy's coming from.

1:33:52

I'll never pass judgment. You know, his

1:33:54

father was killed. His uncle was killed.

1:33:57

I think his brother died in a plane accident.

1:34:00

And maybe his sister or

1:34:02

something. A curse. Yeah. Yeah. Another

1:34:04

one. I think that is actually next year also. Yeah.

1:34:07

And I'm like, bro,

1:34:10

if my whole family was

1:34:12

either murdered or died, like

1:34:14

semi mysteriously, then, you know, you

1:34:16

might give me a little attitude with

1:34:18

my conspiracy theories. Yeah. He

1:34:21

did have that brain worm. Yeah.

1:34:23

Self-determined. And it's almost like backs

1:34:26

up all the any like paranoia

1:34:28

he might have and

1:34:30

who gave him that brain worm? You know, you don't just

1:34:32

get brain worms. You know, what's he like a brain worm?

1:34:37

Little little ivermectin. Right

1:34:42

out of there. Yeah.

1:34:44

He discovered the worm. It was

1:34:46

the ivermectin that Trump prescribed for

1:34:48

him. Yeah. Yeah. What's crazy is

1:34:50

during Covin stuff. I know people,

1:34:53

personal friends who have been

1:34:55

taking ivermectin and doxycycline, like

1:34:57

horse antibiotics

1:35:00

since I was like a child. Like people will

1:35:02

just eat horse medicine. Yeah,

1:35:06

that's like very normal. And horse medicine.

1:35:08

Doxycycline is okay. Don't like I

1:35:11

don't want to give anybody medical advice, but like, of

1:35:13

course. Yeah. You know, you see

1:35:15

that in survival like texts and stuff

1:35:17

like the one about how to make

1:35:19

antibiotics out of the the fish tank

1:35:21

cleaner stuff. That's it. There's an antibiotic

1:35:24

fish cleaner. There's a couple different fish

1:35:26

related antibiotics that are also used in

1:35:28

humans. I just don't know the doses

1:35:30

or like the purity or like the

1:35:32

purity of others name. I would

1:35:34

rather get it for my doctor prescribed like a

1:35:36

Sam, you know, first world

1:35:38

country. I trust mister. I have health

1:35:41

insurance. But

1:35:44

my fish food. I'm also like

1:35:47

understanding of a guy who's like shit. I don't have

1:35:49

a ton of money. It's difficult. They

1:35:51

gatekeep these antibiotics yet. I have them on the

1:35:54

shelf from the last time my dog was sick.

1:35:57

It's like it's I don't know. Treat your strip.

1:35:59

But I'm not. in you. Quick little guess.

1:36:01

What was the dosage for a human? Oh, well,

1:36:03

he's a chain. It's already the same. It's the

1:36:05

same. Right. We go. I

1:36:07

don't want ticks anymore. Yeah. Did

1:36:11

I'm always dosed to myself with some red line before I

1:36:13

go out? What's the next thing? Not

1:36:15

healthy. That's crazy. It

1:36:17

just pumps you full of shit

1:36:20

to make ticks not like you

1:36:22

anymore. That's fucking insane. You're

1:36:24

right. What is it? The

1:36:26

dogs that make red lines. Oh,

1:36:29

never mind. Yes. Yeah.

1:36:31

Like you can put a candy on their

1:36:33

coat. That's why I wear the sweet collar.

1:36:36

Well, I look like. Like

1:36:38

the what's that tick spray, the off stuff?

1:36:40

Like what's in there? Deets, deets, deets.

1:36:43

Yeah. Yeah. Eat. Yeah, it's

1:36:45

got to be. You can drink it. I

1:36:47

just remember every time we'd go hunting, especially

1:36:49

like bow hunting. So it's earlier in the

1:36:51

year in October. It there'd

1:36:53

be mosquito. So we would bathe

1:36:55

in that shit. Like we spray each other.

1:36:58

All right. Now get me. And you'd like open mouth

1:37:02

every year. And you want it covered because they eat your

1:37:04

ass alive in the tree stand. Growing

1:37:06

up, I only put it on my skin, right? Because

1:37:08

that's where bugs bite you. And then my

1:37:10

wife would put it on like her pants and

1:37:13

her shoes and stuff. I was like, that's fucking

1:37:15

genius. Like why have I never considered that? It's

1:37:17

like, I don't know, less exposure

1:37:19

yet still little fog around you. So

1:37:23

now I'll spray my shoes. I wore

1:37:26

a face net that, you know, that

1:37:28

would like hunting. Yeah. Not

1:37:30

always a camouflage, but I could douse that thing and not

1:37:32

have to put that shit in my face. The

1:37:34

off stuff. Yeah, I hated that. That was

1:37:37

the worst part was ticks. I would always have ticks.

1:37:39

Like not always, but like every year I would get a

1:37:41

few ticks. Yeah, that's just part of being a kid

1:37:44

running around the woods. Yes. Nymphs. You

1:37:46

ever get you ever get into a nymph

1:37:48

nest tick nymphs? Shiggers. I've had sugar. I

1:37:50

did. Nymphs. Are they

1:37:52

like fairy tales? Maybe some creatures.

1:37:55

Oh, yeah. And a snark. You ever get

1:37:57

into a snark nest? Well,

1:38:00

I'm just like a tick this

1:38:02

millions of me. You step into

1:38:04

a tick den or whatever the

1:38:06

fuck they're called and you just have like a million

1:38:08

of these tiny little ticks on you. Literally a million.

1:38:10

Not actually, but oh, like it. I don't think I've

1:38:13

ever had those. But like we used to on my

1:38:15

grandparents farm when we were kids, we'd go out and

1:38:17

play in the woods, obviously, because that's what you do.

1:38:19

And you'd come back with like dozens of chiggers all

1:38:22

over your lower legs. And then my

1:38:24

grandma would have to get the clear nail,

1:38:28

Mr. clear and then

1:38:30

paint it all over your leg because

1:38:33

apparently that suffocates the trigger that's like a

1:38:35

road in your skin. And the first time

1:38:37

I learned about chiggers like the mountain, I

1:38:40

used to go mountain biking and they were

1:38:42

explaining what chiggers do and why you can't

1:38:44

go in New Jersey in certain times a

1:38:46

year. And it was like. Can

1:38:49

you just say that word? I'm

1:38:53

uncomfortable with this conversation. Yeah, no,

1:38:55

triggers are the worst. They're they're

1:38:57

like, oh, they're even worse than.

1:39:00

Oh, man, I've been here over here. And they

1:39:02

don't bad mouth triggers. We

1:39:05

get demonetized. I don't like them. They

1:39:07

they itch even worse than mosquito

1:39:10

bites. And there's sometimes not even like a

1:39:12

big mark of where it is. So you

1:39:14

just have like a feeling of itching in

1:39:16

that whole region of your leg. And there's

1:39:18

no say she did. I

1:39:20

got since the last time I was

1:39:22

on the pod, I got bit by

1:39:24

a fucking brown recluse. On my chin

1:39:26

on your got a little my shit.

1:39:28

And okay. Yeah, my huge chin. It's

1:39:31

it's fine now. It looks it's still

1:39:33

like a red circle, but

1:39:36

I thought it was a normal bug bite. And

1:39:38

it got bigger. And I was like, I'm going

1:39:40

to draw that little circle around it. It didn't hurt or anything. So

1:39:42

I was like, there's no way this is bad. And

1:39:44

then it went past circle. I was

1:39:46

like, I'll draw another circle. Oh,

1:39:49

that'll fix it. And then and

1:39:51

then it's just like it kind of stopped

1:39:53

and then got really like

1:39:55

ugly looking. And I looked it up and I

1:39:57

was like, oh, that's probably a brown recluse. but

1:39:59

I should probably go to the hospital didn't

1:40:02

and then it didn't itch or it just didn't really

1:40:04

give me the vibe that I Should go to the

1:40:06

hospital. So I didn't And

1:40:09

I had no pain from the knee down. Yes

1:40:13

No, it was almost like there was no feeling at all But

1:40:16

yeah, it's still like a little red dot but I

1:40:18

seem to have healed so Yeah,

1:40:22

you didn't have like a narc necrosis Maybe

1:40:24

I'm pronouncing it right like a there's like a

1:40:26

little hole there the little necrosis hole in the

1:40:28

croticle. Yeah I'll hold there. I'm gonna

1:40:30

go back on the finger in it right now. I got my finger in it

1:40:32

right now You

1:40:38

have so many brown recluse in Missouri Yeah

1:40:41

Like it was always a thing where it's

1:40:43

like be careful like if they

1:40:45

could bite and kill you and it wasn't until

1:40:47

I was Like a legit adult in my like

1:40:49

late 20s that I actually looked it

1:40:51

up because I got I got a bug bite And

1:40:53

I didn't actually it wasn't a brown recluse, but

1:40:55

it's like oh, yeah in like One

1:40:58

percent of cases it can be so bad that

1:41:00

it requires Hospitalization usually it'll go

1:41:02

away on its own like another bug bite and

1:41:05