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PKN 506. What's up, boys? How's it
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going? Oh, it's going good.
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I've been watching Dan Carlin's
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Supernova in the East. If
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you don't know Dan Carlin's basically a historian, he
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does these long form,
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heavily researched, well put
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together audio videos. It's
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most it's audio, but I'm watching it on YouTube. I'm
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eight and a half hours in and Pearl Harbor
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just ended. It's eight and a half hours
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until Pearl Harbor stops. Like, like, do
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you get to Pearl Harbor? And then
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he tells those events like the third starting point.
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Yeah. Did
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you start Japan invading China in 1931
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and like the reasons for
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their period? Yeah,
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I was like, if the starting point was like the
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beginning of recorded
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time, then Pearl Harbor is pretty far along. Yeah,
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that he's flying. Well, he's supernova in the East.
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He's talking about Japan, the rising sun
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of Japan, you know, going supernova and
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turning imperialist. The motivations behind
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that are very important. Understanding like
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the racial undertones of the whole world and
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how the Japanese were underestimated as
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yellow monkeys by like the entire
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world. Like they were like, oh,
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they're very good at copying technology, but they
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could never craft their own because the Japanese
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were in this isolationist period. Well,
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the Japanese were in this isolationist period for
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a very, very long time, hundreds and hundreds
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of years. They come out of it and
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they send, they send envoys to all the
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major countries. So they send one to
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England, learn how Navy works.
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They copy the English Navy. They're the best
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Navy in the world. Why wouldn't they? They
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send them everywhere. Military, art, history, everything. They
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want to be the best at everything. And
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it's interesting. He describes the Japanese people
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as just like everyone else, just
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more so. And it's
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like, yeah, they do everything with such an
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intensity and such
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rigor that it goes overboard. And
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then they, because they've had this period
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of isolationist, they've romanticized. just how
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rigid to Bushido their ancestors were. Just how
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good that, the way we look at maybe
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medieval knights and think of knights in shining armor who
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do only good, tell only
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truths, protect the
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weak. Okay, all right, our
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politicians say some similar vows, they don't keep
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up with them. But because these guys have
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never known personally that ruling Bushido
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military class, they've heavily romanticized it.
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So he tells all this to
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sort of load you up for
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what's coming in World War II. I'm fascinated, it's
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so good. So you're done
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with the engines already. I
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learned all that there was. All that there
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was to know. Yeah, that's pretty
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fascinating. There's almost four days of
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history there. What
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I did was I went through all the resources available
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to me without going to like a library or something.
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Yeah, without a book. Well,
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it's like, as I go further, it's like,
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yeah, I know this, I know about that
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ritual. I know that they would tie those
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loops through the
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skin in their chest and then tie it to
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the pole and do their dance for days on
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end. I know that that tribe had, their spear
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had a crook in the end, like a shepherd's
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crook, and they would stab it into the ground
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and they tie a piece of leather from that
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to their leg to make sure they didn't take
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one step back. You know, because I went through
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it all. I wanted you to learn all the
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details of the different human sacrifice rituals. So you
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could teach me about all the
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ways they varied. How did the Incas do
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it? How did the Mayans do it? Did
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the Agnics revolutionize it? So they believed,
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so the
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Aztecs believed that the more the person
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suffered and screamed, the more powerful
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the blood magic would be so that they
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could build a closer bond to
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the gods or entities they were trying to
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appease or connect with. So it was very
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important that this person die afraid and terrified.
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Thank God the Spanish showed up. So
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they would hold you down, four people would hold you
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down sort of almost bent over backwards over this like
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bowed stone structure so that you're really exposed.
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You would plunge the knife in. And
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the goal was to tear your heart. You're like Jiro
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dreams of sushi, but with torture, but with torture.
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Yeah, ripping hearts out. Yeah, it's probably a good
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thing. We put a stop to that I
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don't know. I mean least you think it was working the human
4:13
sacrifice Well,
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they did get a lot of money from the
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Japanese guys. They did get a lot of money from the Japanese guys They
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got a lot of money from the Japanese guys They got a
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lot of money from the Japanese guys They
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got a lot of money from the Japanese guys You think it
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was working the human sacrifice Well,
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they did they lost badly
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when like a group much smaller
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than them showed up I'm
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that part of it Earth temperatures started rising
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ever since the human sacrifice has stopped So
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Cortez only had a few hundred men with him
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and there's that famous quote of him like never
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in history have had Such men as us come
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so few and conquered so many and But
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they'd also went around and they'd gotten all
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the tribes that the main Aztec Aristocrats or
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whatever had been bullying forever and we're like,
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hey you tired of them raiding
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your village and sacrificing your people So like
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because that's what they do. They weren't necessarily
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killing like your neighbor and sacrificing him You'd
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go get those jungle people like we
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live it's all it's a lot like Mel
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Gibson's apocalyptto if you've seen that Which yeah
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a lot of the the South Americans and
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Central Americans were Very
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stoked when they got that
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offer from the Spanish at least from what I
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learned where they're like Oh these
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gun people are gonna save us from those,
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you know Step pyramid
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building sacrifices. This is kind of
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nice Yeah, they just want
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to go though. I just want to go
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You know the the Spanish had this idea that
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there was the El Dorado existed and
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part of it was because early explorers English
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explorers who had gone into the Amazon either
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came back and lied or Saw
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something we still haven't found that they were
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fibbing looking for for more funding That's where
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I want to be too But here's the
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facts the guy who came back and told
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the lies was like, please send me back
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Send me and my son back And they gave
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their lives looking for what he had found
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before leading these expeditions down the Amazon looking
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for this, these golden cities and
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these huge civilizations that were that were
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supposedly there. Some people say
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that disease was introduced in those
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cities to vault. You know, just went away. All
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the people died. They ended up melting back into
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the jungle when the leadership and the whole, you
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know, tower of cards came from down. Well,
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we haven't plowed the – well, what they've done is
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that they can't – the Amazon rainforest is
6:29
still there, you know? So they've used that – it's
6:33
not lidar. They've used ground-penetrating
6:35
aerial radar of some kind, some
6:37
sort of sensor, and they found
6:39
large compounds and large – where
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cities once were, but not where cities were a couple
6:45
hundred years ago, where maybe they were hundreds and hundreds
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of years ago. But then it is the
6:50
Amazon rainforest, so I don't know. But
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I love the guy
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who talks about ancient civilizations, where
6:58
it's like there have been –
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Dan Carlins. George Carlins, the comedian.
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Oh, Dan Carlins. Dan Carlins. So
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he does – The one who's
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like – not Atlantis, but like
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imagining an analogy for Atlantis, like
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a sophisticated technology – more technologically
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advanced – Oh, no. –
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society that got eliminated. No, that's Graham
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Hancock. So Graham Hancock, as much as I enjoy
7:19
his works on Go Blecky Tepi and all the
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books he's written – I've read a couple of
7:23
them – he's more on the side of
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like, wouldn't it be cool if, you know? Let's
7:27
kind of go along with this, and it'll be fun to imagine that –
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That would be cool if. Dan
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Carlins is a very respected, heavily
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researched historian. So he does stuff
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on Genghis Khan, stuff
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on Alexander the Great. And
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when you hear him speak, you'll realize he's not making
7:43
his mind up about something. He'll read from contradictory
7:45
sources, for example. He'll be like, well,
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we're going to – in discussing the rape of Nan
7:50
King, it's like, okay. So here's what
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these people say happened. Here's what these people
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say happened, and here's what these people say
7:56
happened. Here's the evidence. Here's
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a – missionary who was
8:01
there in Nanking a white Westerner and
8:03
what they said happened. Here's this
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and you draw your own conclusions and he'll be
8:07
like, look, these numbers go from 1000 to
8:10
100,000. And just so we're clear,
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the 100,000 isn't the highest number that people
8:14
claim. Some people say it was 5 million.
8:17
It's just when the Japanese went into China,
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they killed for a decade when they
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raped Nanking as it's called. It wasn't
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like he compares it to the Assyrians
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taking a city and how three days
8:29
of barbarism and the city fell and
8:31
burning, raping, pillaging, killing the
8:33
dogs and cats, raping the boys, raping the
8:35
women, killing all the men, slaughtering everything. And
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then the king tells the story
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of how I levied the rivers
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and allowed them to flood the city. What
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was before a sprawling metropolis was now
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a flooded meadow. Nature itself could
8:50
not have brought such destruction upon my enemy.
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And it's like, holy shit. But when
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you get to Nanking, three months of
8:57
occupation and not just hanging out, raping
8:59
and killing for three months, they stayed
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in this gigantic capital of China at
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the time and just raped and murdered
9:05
and tortured and killed. And they go
9:07
through like the eyewitness to the testimony
9:09
of the Westerners and what they saw,
9:11
like all of the ways they found
9:13
bodies, the conditions that they were in.
9:15
And it's just everything you can imagine,
9:18
cut apart, dissected, split down the middle, split
9:20
in half, just all sorts of evil. What
9:22
was the build,
9:25
the sector seven, something like that in
9:27
World War II? Unit
9:29
731. Unit 731. That's what
9:31
it was. Yeah. And also
9:34
a thing that I didn't know was the Japanese were
9:36
extremely, they believed
9:38
that they were the master race of Asians.
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They thought that the- They
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still do. They
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believed it enough that the extermination of
9:49
those people seemed like a good idea
9:51
and the subjugation of them that seemed
9:53
like a good idea. One of my
9:55
close friends is, she's Asian, Chinese,
9:59
and like- born in China and then grew
10:01
up mostly here. And she'll like every once
10:03
in a while, if someone asks, she'll be
10:05
like, what? Like, what's the
10:08
racism situation like over in Asia?
10:10
And she'll just be like, Oh,
10:12
like, so much
10:14
more than like, like white people
10:16
could handle. Like, white people are
10:18
so sensitive about all that shit. Like, like,
10:21
she'll be like, yeah, the Japanese, they think they're,
10:23
you know, the cat's pajamas, they think they're at
10:25
the tippity top. And then, you know,
10:27
the Chinese think they're at the tippity top. So
10:29
I think we're a little better than the Japanese,
10:31
you know, they got one over
10:34
on us a few times, admittedly, but
10:36
we're number one. And then I'd
10:39
say Koreans probably rank three. And then
10:42
someone asked her was like, what about
10:44
like Thailand, you know, Laos, the
10:46
Philippines, and she's like, Oh, us,
10:49
the Japanese and the Koreans all
10:52
could not care less about the jungle
10:54
Asians were all better than the jungle.
10:56
Absolutely. Yeah. Before. Yeah.
10:58
And the record is worse than that for
11:00
the japs in the Chinese like one v
11:03
ones, because it goes back so far. Genghis
11:05
Khan's grandson, Kublai Khan was the leader of
11:07
China. He was sitting on the throne of
11:09
China at the time. And he was the
11:12
one who started that first invasion
11:14
of Japan where they were going to send 50,000 troops
11:18
or something by ship across the, you
11:20
know, the gap from and and there
11:22
was a massive storm sunk their fleet.
11:24
And that's they call it the you
11:26
know, divine wind tsunami. And then are
11:29
not tsunami. Typhoon. It
11:32
was a storm, but the divine wind is, was
11:35
is kamikaze. That's,
11:37
that's the word. That's the word. Oh, yeah.
11:40
It means divine wind. And
11:42
so your next era. I
11:45
mean, it's gonna take me so fucking long just to
11:47
cover the japs in World War two. I probably got
11:49
another 20 hours of that. Just part of you want
11:51
to go like super ancient with it, like the Babylonian.
11:53
I want to hear Kyle become a Vietnam expert. I
11:55
think that's interesting. Well, They
11:58
touch on Vietnam as it. Haynes
12:00
to Japan and and Colonial colonialism.
12:02
Am yeah because the French had
12:05
been fighting in Vietnam for. A.
12:07
Long time, Right after World War Two, You know
12:09
there there's their fight sort of begins and like
12:11
fifty won or so. Arm. And
12:14
Vietnam. Memorial
12:17
Day. I don't like Vietnam sucks when
12:19
I was no fun as it gets
12:21
so much political American shit were like
12:23
nobody's resolute and what we're trying to
12:25
do. And. You've got. Just.
12:28
A boring or. Does. It does
12:30
not have an aunt or her understand how
12:32
we were so heavily committed, yet somehow fighting
12:35
with one arm behind our back and what
12:37
the logic was for the way that we
12:39
did this and public opinion. Getting. Reelected.
12:44
Yeah, that's a challenge. Winning worse
12:46
with a democracy? Yeah, Winning. Always
12:48
been there. Larry Winning: Very unpopular.
12:50
worse. Yet. When you look at how
12:53
to maintain popularity, I mean, when wars are won,
12:55
it's nasty. It's a war. In
12:57
with match and people get bayonet it in the
12:59
streets are we? so What? The American soldiers quickly
13:01
try to rush the battlefield so they could execute
13:03
all the dead Japanese before the officers could call
13:06
them off because. If you tried to
13:08
deal with them, they almost always had a
13:10
grenade in their hand. or never that grenade
13:12
in suck in the present. You guys don't
13:14
like it as much, but the Band of
13:16
Brothers Japanese version civic. Presented. As
13:18
if the Us in our seen it multiple times
13:20
and a lot of the stuff that's happened happens
13:22
in the Pacific are straight from real accounts. Are
13:25
the guy cutting the teeth out of the guys?
13:27
it. Like. That really happened. That makes sense
13:29
the reason. Real gold. he may as well. You
13:31
know, make a little months while the guy was
13:33
still alive. Okay Walid Kellen you know
13:35
those with a knife yeah and I know mind
13:37
to them screaming as the nice like Ny bought
13:39
and into his mouth exams at risk of getting
13:42
bit. Yeah. I knew that if
13:44
I walk a nice he's using high. I don't
13:46
want to brag that I would have killed them
13:48
first. This is my morals our brag but I
13:50
to use the I have my leatherman players. If
13:52
I was there you could be like all the
13:54
way better. You are a real job is gonna
13:56
hurt us. Know that he. Would
13:59
he goes. I could be keeping the teeth. About
14:05
a regular. Guy
14:07
the know her. I'm excited for you
14:09
to bounce around pass World War two.
14:12
And then. I want to learn
14:14
more about like Babylon. Assyria.
14:17
Those. Ancient per Ancient Persia.
14:19
The. Ancient Greeks. It's. It's
14:22
such a cool time and there's so much
14:24
to learn. Does. He do. does he not
14:26
do stuff about that either. They're all of that that
14:28
the next thing is gonna be Alexander the Great. Ah,
14:30
I want to learn of Alexander the Great because he
14:33
he seems like. Almost a fictional character,
14:35
he's such a bad ass. Like he's
14:37
conquering. Did you win His
14:39
first battle is sixteen or something. like like
14:41
a deity matter feel like a loser like
14:43
you. They show like images of what he
14:45
conquered and how much there was. and it's
14:47
like. Is. What he had been
14:49
after his eighty six battle at the
14:52
age of twenty one and like out
14:54
like this is rough to compare yourself
14:56
to. Great people are terrible. Appreciate this.
14:58
Eric Lindros season hockey player played for
15:00
the Flyers are birthdays are like one
15:03
day a part. Of.
15:06
America. I worked in tech support for
15:08
a software company and he scored goals
15:10
at methods and with his ethnicity or
15:12
the that. Now we're onto like I
15:14
wonder what Vladimir terrorists and goes up
15:17
to plan for the Rangers. Or whoever
15:19
he straightens now range is a hint about
15:21
your age of check He ended like. Know.
15:23
He can't be eight months younger than
15:26
me. That can't be possible. I have
15:28
no Nhl goals in her. Not a
15:30
single one. And yeah, we're falling behind
15:32
and so far buying lottery tickets. you
15:34
know I think it's absurd to set
15:37
up some of the given cigarettes league.
15:39
It's and again of sixteen year old
15:41
like warlords. Would
15:43
be savored, terrorist cat or off the
15:46
that that guy I'm and ballers or
15:48
whatever you seem minor probably said as
15:50
well though. This person. he's the one
15:52
that pays people like just engage he
15:55
and our triple see. At.
15:57
the com to his terrorists country and
15:59
and guns and he also
16:01
he's the one who has the
16:03
hair lip guy, Chamaya
16:06
like, you know, remember how I was talking about
16:08
he'll let the 16 year old boy like beat
16:10
Chamaya up for Instagram, like the warlord
16:12
son, this is the warlord son he's been made
16:14
the head of special forces. This is true. I
16:16
was just talking about comparing myself to something, see
16:19
myself on camera like man, your cheeks look a
16:21
little fat. And then this kid comes up. I'm
16:23
sexy as fuck and I'm 51 compared to
16:26
this 16 year old who's
16:28
chubby and pimply and just he's
16:30
ugly. Now if he he
16:33
may have one more growth spurt in him, you
16:35
know, that he might he might. Yeah, you
16:39
should be a pretty good buddy. Yeah,
16:41
I mean, he has a print. So I think he's got that going for
16:43
him. Yeah, I could steal
16:46
this guy's girlfriend or he could just be fat. You know,
16:48
Kim Jong Un. I think you can have a portrait if
16:50
you try it. You're
16:52
probably right about that. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, they would have to
16:54
come in and do it. The guys he's
16:56
commanding have have sharp
16:58
jaw lines, I bet. So you know,
17:01
I think it says they put him in charge
17:03
of special forces, which is
17:05
good. What is he? What
17:08
does he think? Right? He must
17:10
know he doesn't deserve anything that he
17:12
has. Well, this
17:15
kid can't run a quarter mile. Well, and
17:17
he's leading the special forces at 16 years
17:19
old. I think look, I hate this kid,
17:21
but I'm going to have to strongly disagree.
17:23
He's very athletic and he's he can operate
17:25
that rifle too. I mean, if
17:27
you go to his instinct, go to
17:30
the terrorist Instagram and he'll see that
17:32
like he doing athletically UFC fighting. Oh,
17:35
it is. You have to be a horse. He beat up
17:37
Jamayev multiple times. He's always. Oh, that
17:39
is impressive. That's the thing. Almost unbelievable.
17:41
These guys are like super fans of
17:43
mixed martial arts. Like he's got a
17:45
UFC gym in his house. Yeah,
17:49
I struggle to believe he trains a
17:51
lot. This is a weight class based sport. Mm
17:53
hmm. That makes me just, you
17:56
know, do you like more Kyle? Do you like the MMA?
18:00
Russians are the hockey Russians. Oh
18:02
the hockey Russians for sure because the hockey
18:04
Russians are playing like their national sports something
18:06
ingrained in them I'm sure and I
18:08
do Admire when I hear
18:11
about like the Russians coming over and playing
18:13
against the more physical Americans and when I
18:15
say more physical I mean the cheating Americans
18:17
and their reaction isn't to get mad and
18:19
and like stoop to our level It's to
18:21
be like you guys don't know how to
18:23
play this fucking game and it's kind of it like we're gonna
18:25
go home And we're not gonna talk about how we lost the
18:28
Americans. We're gonna talk about how Americans are losers Dude
18:30
like the version I like the That
18:33
thought process. That's my viewpoint It's
18:35
beating up the Russian team
18:38
is literally like another space race version where
18:40
they're like we made it to Orbit first
18:42
we did this first that first first living
18:44
thing and then we get to the moon
18:47
and we're like we win Every
18:49
we out for them to we
18:52
out scored them. We beat them up We
18:54
dominated them in every category of the game
18:57
and what did the except for complaining to the refs? They
18:59
got us there. They complained to the refs. That was their
19:01
strategy and they lost you Regard
19:05
they'd called it. They called those in the playoffs
19:09
Penalties the flight Americans Americans were assaulting fellow
19:11
athletes who were more skillful than them because
19:13
it's the only way that they could not
19:15
get embarrassed in their own Bobby Clark had
19:17
no teeth and a permanent case of bad
19:20
breath because he soaked himself in some sort
19:22
of fluid that he felt helped with muscle
19:24
recovery This
19:29
guy My
19:37
team Like
19:45
nothing mattered except winning hockey games he didn't
19:47
care about his own health he didn't care
19:49
about Anything except that he
19:51
won hockey games and nobody wanted to come
19:53
to Philly the
19:57
Would be the Russian Indian hockey players. While
20:00
the period it's not the truth anymore but
20:02
like there was a time especially not Soviet
20:04
era where like they just were better at
20:06
the game of hockey like they were smoother
20:09
at it they had better off and substructures
20:11
they're passing was better there are you can
20:13
watch him like kind of tipsy do I
20:15
do you remember Pavel Datsyuk like core he
20:17
was after that era a child can often
20:20
support in about that sick on the fall
20:22
guy foods and they were. They were revised
20:24
removed of the time except from you know
20:26
not physical at all and it took the
20:28
Canadians in the Americans being. Hyper physical
20:30
the try and spook I'm and
20:32
then overtime the Canadians. For.
20:35
Aid Gotta give Canada some credit they'd They
20:37
really figured it out and got way better.
20:39
It's this is Americans now are getting to
20:41
the point where where like as good. At
20:44
as. Canadians of hockey for
20:47
almost. Were. Starting to get there were
20:49
like are superstars are on Canadian levels because
20:51
for so long it was like he we
20:53
are a number of read on right? like
20:55
holy shit. Like. Yeah well mean
20:57
and wrong number is way more than that.
21:00
By as like Georgia doesn't count used to
21:02
be like a guy Connor Mcdavid like a
21:04
Canadian guy was like oh he's the best
21:06
in the were already in yeah something like
21:08
that he that like an American you never
21:11
going American superstar that everyone so I would
21:13
break out and like like a Brett Hall
21:15
where it's like does not like an all
21:17
time goal scorer and he's fucking American. sorry
21:20
grew up in general but I can't remember
21:22
if it was born in America. Now they
21:24
have asked the math is born in. Phoenix
21:26
best goal scorer in the league right now. And
21:29
moan, it's kind a neat as it used to be.
21:31
like there was the tier of. With.
21:33
The raiders the an adverb. He. Was
21:35
raised in Phoenix. Yeah, And. i
21:37
know basketball into that turns you off but
21:39
a lot of the best players watch over
21:42
us the game last night we have five
21:44
hours on i don't remember the last time
21:46
america had an mvp you know like a
21:48
league best player lunch or years ago ma'am
21:50
he looked at as thirty nine he's a
21:52
great player he still top ten but he's
21:55
not mbp bless every p was a sixer
21:57
draw a bead before that it was joking
21:59
twice Uh, and he's Serbian
22:01
before that. I think it was Giannis
22:03
and he's Greek
22:06
And before that I
22:08
don't know American but this next one's not going
22:10
to be American either this year's now that it
22:13
That seems absurd that we're not I
22:16
think it is not a date. We the european
22:18
game is like I guess you know,
22:20
I I don't follow basketball at all but when I
22:23
do see because I like get sports stuff served to
22:25
me on twitter and whatnot and and Disproportionately
22:28
there's a dude in texas who's
22:32
uh, Donchich or something
22:34
like that. Yes. Yeah, luka. I saw
22:36
luka donchich No, my guy's my guy's
22:38
not fucking american very clearly and apparently
22:40
he's like wrecking people and then I
22:42
know That other guy you
22:45
just mentioned the joker. Yeah And
22:47
he has like the most eastern european
22:50
face and eastern european hair you've
22:52
ever seen you would love him taylor I think I
22:54
told you before I might have said this already, but
22:56
they're like, how do you play defense? He's like, oh
22:58
I did I stayed in front of him and I
23:00
try to make him hard That
23:04
like like plays basketball because he's incredible at
23:06
it and they're like, what are you gonna
23:09
do with the championship? And he's like I
23:11
go back to Serbia Play
23:13
with my horses. You you would not believe how
23:15
much I love what he won the championship last
23:17
year for the first time I love that and
23:19
they're all like are you looking forward to the
23:21
parade the parade? He's like what? parade
23:25
When is parade and they're like it's
23:27
thursday like no, no I
23:30
just want to go home Basketball
23:33
is a job for me. I'm like everyone
23:35
else. I I don't like my
23:37
job. I you know, maybe some people like the job
23:40
They are lying Yeah,
23:43
I like god damn i'm really happy to get on the
23:45
parade does he have to be on that fucking float because
23:48
i'm Gonna go to your championship turned out. I wouldn't want
23:50
to after the parade. He would want to have a good
23:52
time Yeah, I'd be like
23:54
you think I did this for you people You
23:56
know You
24:00
know what I mean? Like that'd be my attitude.
24:02
I'm not playing. I'm not trying. I'm not sinking
24:04
those baskets For the for the people
24:07
in the fucking crowd certainly not the Lakers
24:09
crowd. I watched the game last night as
24:11
as uh uh I
24:13
bet $5 that the uh, yeah,
24:15
I bet what do you $5 that the NBA riders
24:17
would keep LeBron in it for at least one more
24:20
game And goddamn if they didn't maintain the league for
24:22
the lead in the game the Lakers that is for
24:25
About like three quarters of the fucking game the
24:27
Lakers went no They lost at
24:29
the very end by like two points or something.
24:32
I have a theory on that I think it's
24:34
because Denver has the cardio from training a mile
24:36
high They've had a bunch of comebacks
24:38
and they just always seem to win in the fourth
24:40
quarter and better cardio you think Mile
24:43
high. Yeah altitude training. Yeah, I
24:45
I put a lot Um into
24:48
that theory because i've seen it play out
24:50
time and time again And
24:52
high altitude fighting environment. So they they
24:54
have fights in Mexico City and they
24:56
have fights in In Denver
24:59
and Mexico City's altitude might be 7 000
25:01
feet and Denver's of course the mile high.
25:03
Um, so it's around Almost
25:05
exactly 5,000 feet Yeah,
25:08
and it's so close and oh my god,
25:10
you're like, whoa, what happened? Did he not
25:12
work out? This
25:14
guy not even did he do no cardio because
25:16
there's gas ramp You see their mouths open. It's
25:18
like this guy usually has a gas tank so
25:20
that he can sprint for three rounds and tonight
25:23
He's clearly pacing himself. It's a big deal Yeah
25:27
Um, but anyway, basketball is born international. Oh, there's one
25:29
last thing. I was listening to this guy in the
25:31
olympic team And uh, he's like
25:33
I thought we were gonna win automatically
25:36
I forget who it was but he's like, you know, we got
25:38
lebron on the team. We got ad on the team. We got
25:40
uh Uh, Kevin Durant on
25:42
the team. He's just listing all these like hyper
25:44
stars He's like, I thought we'd show up and
25:47
like just never lose like we'd
25:49
win without barely trying We lost
25:51
three games They did get
25:53
the gold but uh It was hard
25:56
so Your team is still
25:58
in for now Yes,
26:00
they played tonight is very disappointed and
26:03
they just need to win push it
26:05
to game six and then
26:07
seven and then seven Well,
26:10
I'm pulling for the 76ers. Fuck the
26:12
Knicks. Thank you for that. It's Dan
26:14
the Knicks We're down three one.
26:16
It should be two two if I showed
26:18
you the play You'd see they
26:21
absolutely mugged a guy at the end of
26:23
the game Like they fouled up three times
26:25
in like three seconds. They pulled him to
26:27
the ground by his jersey and Then
26:30
the coach was calling timeout twice and
26:32
the rest were looking at the coach, but they
26:34
didn't call the timeout I don't know why that
26:36
happened. You should know that was yeah sixes fans
26:39
and everyone kind of agrees They should have won
26:41
that game, but they're not gonna change it. So
26:44
now they're down three one and the sixes
26:46
are the fans anywhere already talking
26:48
about next year in the other
26:51
sport of the NHL your Carolina
26:54
Hurricanes are up three to one on
26:57
the New York Islanders And I
26:59
think I think the canes probably have
27:01
their best shot at a cup this year than they've had
27:03
in a long time Because there there's
27:05
no way there's no way they lose another
27:07
one to the Islanders. They're gonna win tonight
27:09
for sure. I shouldn't
27:12
say that I have a notoriously bad
27:14
record at predicting sports, but I'd
27:17
like to see them them either them
27:19
get one or man,
27:21
I feel so bad for Toronto
27:23
fans because they They
27:26
haven't won a Stanley Cup since 1967
27:29
and they care and they
27:31
care so so deeply about it
27:34
and they've so the
27:36
way the division works Kyle is in the divisions
27:38
over time is they often get paired
27:40
up Toronto against the Boston Bruins and
27:44
You know how they're just Rival
27:46
reason sports where one side
27:48
almost always wins Mm-hmm
27:50
the Toronto Maple Leafs have not had a
27:52
winning series in the playoffs against the Boston
27:55
Bruins since 1957 59
27:59
something like that 75 years. It's
28:01
an unreal amount of time. People
28:05
have lived full lives and died. The
28:07
fans aren't mean about it or anything. They don't
28:10
do pants or make t-shirts. Dude, I'll see like
28:12
Bruins hockey fans like before the series even starts
28:14
to be like, dude, I'm not even fucking nervous,
28:16
dude. Like there's not, there's no chance. And then
28:19
the Toronto Maple Leafs fans are having a connection,
28:21
but the Bruins are up three to one. I
28:24
said I thought Toronto had a good shot this year
28:26
to do something and I, it's looking like I was
28:29
wrong again. And so that I don't,
28:32
I used to, I guess I don't even dislike the Bruins.
28:34
Why would I? Last time we met them, we
28:36
won a Stanley Cup. So it worked
28:38
out. But man, poor Toronto. They're
28:41
so sad all the time. And
28:44
it's the only team they like their whole
28:46
city cares about. It's hard
28:48
to be a player there too. Cause
28:50
if you're not just coded and gold
28:52
gleaming every game, they're like hassling you
28:55
when you fill your car with gas.
28:57
Oh, like you, if you suck dick
28:59
on the Carolina hurricanes, you
29:01
could go to the grocery, you could score
29:04
on your own goalie and then
29:06
go to like the grocery store the next day
29:08
and no one's going to know. But
29:10
Toronto fans, like they're taking closeup
29:12
videos of the guys talking to
29:14
each other on the bench and
29:16
having like, Hey, Toronto lip reader
29:18
here. And then like playing what's
29:20
going on. Their
29:22
best player, Austin Matthews had to leave the
29:25
game, probably not by his own volition like
29:27
the doc, the team doctors and medics and
29:29
whatnot have to step in. And apparently he's
29:31
sick and was like, yeah, food poisoning
29:33
or was like too dehydrated to keep playing.
29:36
It would be my guess. And
29:38
like the whole fan base is
29:41
like players
29:43
for the fucking Bruins and the blues
29:46
and the Kings, they'll
29:48
break a foot and keep playing. But Austin
29:50
Matthews have an, has an upset tummy and
29:52
fuck him. They're
29:55
so mad. One of the reasons
29:57
the Sixers are struggling. really
30:00
dependent on our best player. And he's
30:02
really, really good, but without him, we're
30:04
nothing. And right now, like
30:06
his knee is fucked. He can barely
30:08
jump. He had surgically removed a meniscus
30:11
a couple of weeks ago, and he
30:13
has Bell's posy, so he has to
30:15
blink with this hand. He reaches up
30:17
and closes his eye and he's still
30:20
powering through it. And he scored 52
30:23
games ago on water for us, but
30:26
the narrative, man, keeps his eye on the
30:28
ball. No
30:30
matter, he don't blink. I
30:34
hear he paralyzed the side of his face intentionally,
30:36
so he never misses a play. He paralyzed the
30:38
side of his brain that makes him nervous. Only
30:42
affects your face. That's the beta blocker. He doesn't seem
30:44
to bother below the neck that
30:46
I can tell. I don't know. It's not
30:48
like neurological going on to cause face paralysis,
30:50
but I guess if you're able to play
30:52
in an NBA playoff game, it's not that
30:54
severe. Yeah. Anybody who's got
30:56
Bell's palsy now, I'm like, get over it. How many
30:59
points could you score? I
31:01
don't think. Probably none. Probably
31:03
none. Speaking
31:06
of bonafide superstars, are you guys ready
31:08
to get manhandled in Scriblio again? Oh
31:10
my goodness. We played this game called
31:12
Scriblio and basically you got, it
31:15
doesn't matter if people are on our team, but a bunch of
31:17
people on our team. And we take turns drawing with our mouse,
31:19
a word that's given to us, the secret word. And,
31:22
and so the team has to guess
31:24
the word and type it. Okay.
31:26
So it requires vocabulary. Type it
31:29
in. So it requires
31:31
vocabulary, spelling and typing. And
31:33
Taylor is like a nine out of 10
31:35
on all three of those fucking skills. I
31:37
think you're underestimating him. Not
31:40
only will he get it rather
31:42
quickly, but he'll know how
31:44
to spell it the first try, which
31:46
is important, and he'll get the input
31:49
in rapidly. And he dominated at this
31:51
game. Like I've seen few people dominate
31:53
at any. He's
31:55
just fucking dunking on us. And he's like
31:57
worried about his lead. He's up by thousands
31:59
of points. I don't know what
32:01
he's coming like. He doesn't even have to play anymore. I'm
32:04
like 55 words a minute. But
32:06
I would spell like direction or compass
32:08
at 55 words a minute. Symmetrical,
32:11
I'm down to like seven as
32:13
I process that. You know, slowly
32:15
trying to like... How many times?
32:19
So it's S-Y... And
32:21
that's if you've guessed the word. Like you have
32:24
to guess the word, then you have to spell
32:26
it correctly. Dude, I forgot how to spell cloud.
32:28
Like I swear, I don't know how I forgot
32:30
how to spell cloud. Yeah, that was a funny
32:33
moment. I heard a lot
32:35
of nubbies in there. Hahahaha. It
32:38
was cloudy actually. Yeah, cloudy. That's what it
32:41
was. And something about it being cloudy,
32:43
I wasn't spelling cloudy. I was spelling cloud. I
32:45
don't know what I was doing. But I typed
32:47
it wrong like three fucking times. And I was
32:49
like, I don't know how to spell cloud. And
32:52
everyone can see your bad guesses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh,
32:54
that's the best part. Like as you're
32:57
typing, if you miss, the miss
32:59
sticks in the chat for everyone to see. It's a
33:01
text chain. And
33:04
so that can be helpful because I'll see
33:06
people misspell a word. Because cloud is one
33:08
of the few words I'm apparently retarded on.
33:11
Usually I can spell okay. And it's
33:13
like, they'll type rendezvous, but they'll have
33:15
it all fucking wrong. And I'll
33:17
be like... And now I've got it because that's
33:19
a huge clue to me. I know you
33:21
meant rendezvous, but I didn't see rendezvous up there. And
33:24
some of them, I just
33:26
blank. When he was drawing SpongeBob SquarePants, I
33:29
was like, yellow rat trap? Why
33:32
is it yellow? Why is that rat trap
33:34
yellow? Every once in a while a
33:36
word would come up. Like most
33:38
people in the chat were struggling. Obelisk.
33:41
Oh, obelisk. That one, that solidified
33:43
my first game. He
33:46
was the only person to get it. I
33:49
loved the twelve people in there. But then
33:51
one of the words was scythe. And
33:53
I saw a million creative spellings.
33:55
Where people were clearly like, alright,
33:57
there's a sea in a wall.
34:00
somewhere in the middle
34:03
of this. I typed sickle three
34:05
times in a row correctly and then
34:07
just gave up and decided it was something else.
34:09
I was like that's not... if
34:12
you... I don't know. Like sometimes
34:14
I'll have it. Occasionally I'll beat you. I'll
34:16
be the first one. But it's rare. I
34:18
think I was fourth one game and
34:21
Taylor's first in every game
34:23
and it's not close. It's like
34:25
he could stop playing toward
34:27
the end. And it's a fun
34:29
fucking game. I like it. I do wish...
34:32
It was a good time. And I'm not
34:34
saying it would change who wins or who
34:36
does anything. I just wish we
34:38
had a trackpad. Like I would prefer to
34:40
draw with my hand and a mouth. Not
34:42
because I think I'm necessarily better at it
34:44
or that it would change how the cards
34:46
would fall but I would just rather do
34:48
that because I think I could like represent
34:50
my drawing skills a little bit better because
34:52
I'm so bad at drawing. I'm like I
34:55
know what I want. I want a guitar with the
34:57
amp next to it because I need an electric guitar.
34:59
I got what you were going for. But as I'm
35:01
doing it at one point I go I'm
35:04
so sorry I can't draw a guitar. I
35:08
think the word you were going for was electric. And
35:10
I typed guitar which I think is
35:12
the same amount of letters. I don't know. Nobody knows that. And
35:16
it was an electric guitar. It was a compound word. Oh
35:18
was it both? Yeah you get some of the word. That's
35:20
the other thing. I remember it wrong. It's
35:22
like Wheel of Fortune so that you can see the length.
35:25
Or Hangman. So you see how many letters and
35:27
slowly it's like it'll give you one letter. Like
35:30
the whole group gets one letter like to
35:32
help them along. But I'll
35:34
be so engrossed in the drawing that's
35:37
taking place. I'll forget to look
35:39
up there. And it's like dude that's a
35:41
three letter word. Just start guessing three letter
35:43
words because sometimes that's... Someone called
35:45
me out for that. Like even before anyone
35:47
started drawing. I was typing like Cal. You're
35:50
like you thought that was a Cal? There
35:53
wasn't even a clue. I was just... Yeah
35:55
it's because I kept forgetting that there was
35:57
a clue up there. That's why later I
35:59
was like... We removed that clue because I keep forgetting
36:01
to look at it anyway. Yeah, I
36:03
think I, uh, a huge amount is I
36:05
felt like I was paying more attention to
36:08
the amount of letters you just have like
36:10
a better reservoir of words to choose from.
36:12
You know, like give me a six letter
36:14
word with a third letter is T and
36:17
you're like, Oh, I got like four of those. What could
36:19
it be? And I had zero. What
36:22
I liked a lot, like just
36:25
enjoyed was the people complaining
36:27
about the drawing, right? Some guys
36:29
would picture drawing like
36:31
an entire neighborhood, right? There's three houses. There's
36:34
some trees. This is a dude mowing his
36:36
lawn to pick a fence, some flowers and
36:38
Kyle's like, what are we supposed to focus
36:40
on? Absolutely.
36:43
It was, it was sometimes
36:46
it would just be people getting frustrated where it'd be
36:48
like, what the fuck is this? And then other times
36:50
the word would be like road
36:53
and they wouldn't start with like two lines and
36:55
then like dash it down the middle. It'd be
36:57
like they'd start with a house car or the
37:00
car on the road, like a cul-de-sac and it'd
37:02
be like, there's too many factors. I'm a hundred
37:04
percent right with what I'm saying. Once you've got
37:06
your picture done and we're just sitting there like
37:09
clearly no one knows what you've done because they haven't
37:11
guessed it. And now we're just staring at your picture.
37:13
I need you to circle the relevant part or
37:16
draw arrows to it because I was, my clue
37:18
was full moon. So I did my best in
37:20
drawing. I think I won that one. That was
37:22
the first thing to get it. Full moon. And
37:24
then I drew a circle around it and the
37:26
arrows like sort of recycling thing, like, like just
37:28
pointing like this one, not that one. Cause
37:30
I don't know how to draw a full moon. Cause
37:33
you'll get a circle with dots on it. If I don't
37:35
have the crescent moon and the idea of the progression, maybe.
37:39
Yeah. There was one, I was proud of myself because
37:41
Taylor complimented me on it. I'm still on a high,
37:44
but there was complaining about
37:46
the use of colors. People were
37:48
wasting time with colors, all this
37:50
frustration. And my clue was
37:52
popcorn. So I made the box red and
37:54
white striped, which is to me like classics
37:56
would have popcorn-y and then the
37:59
popcorn wasn't great. It's hard for me to draw the
38:01
tailors like that's a good use of colors that you
38:03
know that helped with the clue That was a perfect
38:05
use of color, but then other times people are like
38:08
hmm the word is Traver
38:11
I prefer a green train About
38:21
the the patrons you get a mixed
38:23
group you get some guys that are
38:25
moving to Upper West Side of
38:27
Manhattan this week to who are worth millions of
38:29
dollars And then you get some
38:31
guys who smell They
38:38
only smell cuz they're wearing that furry costume and
38:40
it seems some mileage yeah But
38:43
not far off I really liked that game that was a
38:45
fun Like a few
38:48
minutes, that's what we're talking about is like the $50 patron
38:50
hangout if you care to join yeah part
38:53
like weeks late or 10 bucks or
38:56
also like and I started Like
38:59
cheating for lack of it. Well it based on cheating was
39:01
really opposite I was helping everybody else once I figured it
39:03
out each out out. It was making it
39:05
a little more fun Yeah I Only
39:08
didn't like you when you were doing that because
39:10
I was really trying to goose my numbers before
39:12
the end of the game Cuz I would get
39:14
it right and then what he would be like
39:16
well. How do you draw a train? And
39:20
I'm like fuck no no some guy out
39:23
loud asked how do you spell bonsai and
39:25
I'm like B O N S A I
39:29
But everyone's like got it got it got it got it got it Yeah,
39:32
it's a fun game in that like there
39:35
are sometimes though where you just can't get
39:37
it And it's so demoralizing to be like
39:39
all right nine other people have it But
39:41
I can't get it through my head what
39:43
this is supposed to be that's why I
39:45
was extending olive leaves I was trying to
39:47
be good Gulf of Mexico, and I oh
39:49
you got sugar Oh Mexico
39:58
immediately very sharp leave my shit
40:00
alone, dude. No, shark. I thought it was
40:02
tied into the Mexico story. Yeah.
40:08
But, but it was like, Oh, that's clearly America. And he's pointing
40:11
those arrows to the Gulf of Mexico and nobody was
40:13
getting it. And I was just. Dirty
40:15
was so upset because the guy would erase it and then
40:17
draw it again. And then he raised it and draw it
40:19
again. He's like, you keep drawing the same thing. I was
40:22
like, well, I don't know. 12 people got it so far,
40:24
bro. That was frustrating because
40:26
some, there, I don't remember which person
40:28
it was, but one dude just kept
40:30
having the most bafflingly bad drawings. And
40:32
he'd be like, Oh, I'm sorry. I'm
40:34
using a track pad. Just
40:39
be like, he couldn't draw circles. It was
40:41
like, it had, it was three inch lines
40:43
connected to each other because it was so
40:46
high. It couldn't read like a millimeter and read
40:48
like an inch at a time. Also he couldn't
40:50
like, there'd be clearly such like, so you're trying
40:52
to draw a fence, right? You know how to
40:54
do it. Like two parallel straight lines and vertical
40:56
ones. This guy couldn't make a line remotely straight
40:58
for the life of him. And it
41:00
was the pencil. He was the one who drew
41:02
the pencil that looked like a banana. I
41:05
got, I got no points on that pencil one
41:07
and I was a little annoyed because it's like
41:10
he couldn't have drawn a worse pencil.
41:12
Yeah. He wanted to, I had a challenge
41:15
to draw a pencil as bad as I
41:17
could. He would have beaten me. He would
41:19
have swept me in the series. Yeah. That
41:22
and code names, a couple of very fun games.
41:25
I want to find more stuff like, like
41:27
they, I need to try a Pictionary out.
41:29
I've never really played Pictionary, but if that's just what Pictionary
41:31
is, I think I'd be pretty good at it. Yeah. Yeah.
41:34
You shout out the answer in like real life
41:36
Pictionary. So it's a little like charades, but instead
41:38
of acting it out, you draw it out. Do
41:40
you play board games much ever or not
41:43
really? No, no,
41:45
I don't. Okay. I
41:48
can imagine having fun, but if anyone would have
41:50
proposed the idea, I'd be like anything but
41:52
this. I don't know. Board games.
41:54
I love board games. They're so, so fun.
41:56
It depends on the board games. I don't
41:58
want to play. a goofy
42:00
board game where we're basically rolling dice
42:02
and giggling about it because that's fucking
42:04
stupid and that's a soft game for Soft-minded
42:07
people so that your dumb girlfriend doesn't get
42:09
embarrassed in front of a group I'll never
42:12
forget the night that this pretentious couple came
42:14
over and played Um
42:16
a trivia game with me and my girlfriend
42:18
and this guy was always just bragging about
42:21
how many degrees he had worthless fisher He
42:23
he what he did was he took the
42:25
ph levels at fisheries and for this
42:27
he was a doctor He was
42:29
a glorified pool ph tester like
42:31
he'd bring data back. I'm so
42:33
proud I stopped his asshole into
42:35
just oblivion in that game because
42:37
he had no basic knowledge and he had zero
42:39
pop culture knowledge and it was just Play
42:43
something else now and they got
42:45
out some kind of like hungry hungry hippos
42:47
or some shit like you know something that
42:49
That like there's no winner in basically or
42:51
the winner is the guy who just like
42:53
hungry hungry This is cutthroat spams What's
42:58
something like that some stupid fucking game? I agree
43:00
There needs to be a win like like
43:03
a good example of a game I don't
43:05
like to play is like a cards against
43:07
humanity style game where it's like There's
43:10
no one's really winning in that
43:12
like whereas code names or scribble
43:14
Oh dictionary, whatever that game secret
43:16
Hitler Catan
43:18
ticket to ride like there's a winner.
43:20
There's a strategy to it And
43:23
so at the end when you win, it's
43:25
like damn my I out Strategized them or
43:28
when you lose it's like fuck they
43:30
out strategize me I was trying to
43:32
get from Yaroslavl Russia to my route
43:34
in Bahrain and they cut off the
43:36
right in the middle of it That
43:39
was really tactical of them fuck when
43:41
people come over we place super Mario
43:43
Brothers party It's something close to
43:45
your party. Yeah, Mario part. It's a very
43:47
silly game and it's Being
43:50
good doesn't help you win
43:52
that much. There's too much luck involved I
43:55
pulled last places the last two
43:57
times I played and it's frustrating
44:01
It works in our house though because we have
44:03
this like projection screen and you know for controllers,
44:05
but You guys would
44:07
hate that game. It's the video equivalent of what you
44:10
hate When
44:13
we play Super Smash we play you're like
44:15
giant projector at that house and that made
44:17
all the difference I don't know it wouldn't
44:19
have been fun even on like a large
44:21
TV like a 70 something inch But being
44:23
it on like 200 inches or whatever like
44:25
a wall Well, yeah, it
44:28
made you know, you're looking around as the it's
44:30
it made it a much better game obviously lemme
44:32
do that I
44:35
yeah, I had never played before That's
44:37
so surprising that you never
44:40
played Super Smash even on the the n64
44:43
I have an n64 that game has a
44:45
really hot it looks like it's silly game
44:47
like Mario Kart But it has a really
44:49
high skill ceiling the people who
44:51
are good at it will beat people who are
44:53
bad at it every time Yeah, yeah, I played
44:55
you can think you're okay at it and then
44:57
you play someone who really knows what they're doing
44:59
and you're like Oh, I didn't
45:01
even know these moves were an option like
45:04
I didn't know this could be done Just
45:06
grabbing me with DK throwing me in the
45:08
air. I never touched the ground. I'm not
45:10
having fun Yeah, I only had
45:12
a cup. I had Sega Saturn and the Sega
45:14
Genesis that say Santa with CDs Genesis
45:17
was cartridges and then like a Nintendo NES before
45:19
that. That's all I ever had We're
45:22
gonna PlayStation 2 when vice in put certainly
45:24
invite city and want to burn people you
45:26
went right to two You never had a
45:28
ps1 No,
45:31
no, absolutely no Yeah,
45:35
I didn't get bought but my parents wouldn't buy me things like
45:37
that So I always had to go and like earn money to
45:39
get video games because they saw it as like, you know frivolous
45:43
silliness PS2 I think
45:45
I justified it because it was only
45:47
slightly more expensive than another dvd player.
45:49
Yep So made it
45:51
work. Yeah, it was great. I think I
45:53
remember going in there and and buying that
45:56
thing I remember specifically like the day I
45:58
bought that PlayStation. It was so Nice,
46:00
so this graph so but I was playing
46:02
SOCOM Navy SEALs with a phone not an
46:05
Ethernet cable a phone cord stuck into the
46:07
PlayStation 2 I Back
46:12
in the ps2 days like when my kids
46:14
struggled with games They'd hand me the controller
46:16
and I was just you know kicking ass
46:18
for them getting past all those platformers
46:21
that they couldn't do and and
46:24
The tide has turned I did the
46:27
transition of power is never peaceful Colin's like
46:29
sitting on me And
46:33
of course he it's like he's Serbian
46:35
or something cuz he messes up the language I've
46:37
said this before but you know you're hard for
46:39
fall guys aren't you? Yeah
46:45
The hardest for fall guys can't
46:48
keep his guy upright falling Mmm
46:54
that game a scribble Oh, I don't know
46:56
if we explored every option of I
46:59
like having the letters at the top because
47:01
it's fun And I guess it's another layer
47:03
of vocabulary And I obviously like the vocabulary
47:05
aspect but like if there was a
47:08
way to do it in teams
47:10
or pairs or like Something
47:12
like that I call it free for
47:14
all yeah Well, yeah,
47:17
you're fun addition Um
47:19
I mean we I bet we could find Pictionary
47:21
of some like like You
47:24
know and just do that There
47:26
was also talking to a codenames that
47:28
has photos instead of words codenames pictures
47:30
is Absolutely
47:33
harder than codenames course it is yeah,
47:35
it's I I have that physical game
47:38
And it's so words are specific there can
47:40
be synonyms or there can be synonyms and
47:42
stuff like there can be words But
47:45
you get like oh that word could be this
47:47
or that but when you got a picture pictures
47:49
worth a thousand words that could Be maybe it's
47:51
the situation in that picture. Maybe it's not the
47:53
boat or the river Maybe it's paddling you
47:56
know like it could be anything or it could go the wrong
47:58
way like you know you're You're
48:00
trying to people are focused on the wrong thing actually that
48:02
ties into what you just said Yeah, like it's like I
48:05
want you to say boat, but maybe I don't know they're
48:07
in a boat having fun Like in
48:09
the couple are they married are you going for
48:11
Lake? Yeah, you don't know it's a lot harder
48:13
Yeah, and a lot like pretty much all the
48:15
pictures in codenames pictures are Like
48:19
it you won't get one of a pyramid
48:21
like it's not ever one thing It'll
48:23
be a pyramid But it's also
48:25
an upside-down ice cream cone and the
48:27
ice cream is also a lake with
48:29
like palm trees on so it's like
48:32
multifaceted and so there's a bunch of ways
48:34
to tie it in and you have to
48:36
think like it's even more Complicated
48:38
in the word version because it's like man am
48:40
I the only one who's seeing this
48:42
is like also And is our other probably your
48:45
meter to the ice cream cone sometimes
48:47
when when someone starts drawing I am
48:49
immediately like oh, I see it And
48:52
sometimes they're they're done and everyone has guessed
48:54
it correctly and I'm just like Wouldn't
48:57
know where to start that looks like scribbles to
48:59
me like like I can't make that into shapes
49:02
anymore It's just scribbles. I'm like, what is that?
49:04
There's that scribbly little doodad you put over there.
49:06
Were you just bored? Yeah,
49:08
and then like you finish a drawing and then
49:10
like there's nothing else to add and say you're
49:12
like, all right I guess I'll put a tailpipe
49:14
on the truck and maybe a window and a
49:16
group One person's word was truck and they do
49:18
a car and I went I
49:21
had already guessed truck Somehow and
49:23
I went put a tailgate on it
49:25
for God's sake Thank
49:32
you Jesus He
49:34
had drawn a truck and a car I
49:37
think like to show that show that it
49:39
wasn't a cried contrast and I
49:41
couldn't get my head off vehicle I was just
49:43
on it. Let's take the vehicle I
49:45
was vehicle. Oh, well, I might
49:47
be conflating. They're two different ones. Yeah. Yeah.
49:49
Yeah, it was fun It was a good
49:52
time and it was nice to get away from code words a
49:54
little bit Little
49:57
change of pace little change race. I'd like to change it
49:59
some more I don't have any specific ideas,
50:01
but the idea of changing is cool. I
50:04
would like something team based like like Taylor
50:06
said, because then Taylor doesn't
50:08
just beat us all. Like, like maybe I could
50:10
share some glory with somebody. I literally think if
50:12
we had 12 people playing
50:14
that game, Taylor could win. I
50:18
it might be 100 times out of 100. Not
50:21
that many times, but like it
50:23
would get to what's your number. I
50:26
would win the majority of the time. Oh, shut up. No,
50:28
no, that's not a number. One guy kept pace. I
50:30
have one of the games so far. Paste
50:36
with you for a while. And then like, sometimes
50:40
there were the second game we played the first
50:42
four. I got zero. The
50:44
first four clues. I was just like, the fuck
50:46
is all this shit? I don't see it. You
50:48
climb back to like fifth by the end though,
50:50
I think. Yeah. I skipped the first four questions
50:52
and pulled up to fifth or something by the
50:55
end. Yeah. That happened. The other two people that
50:57
were second, third and
50:59
fourth was dirty
51:01
robot and you. I
51:04
would say I did okay, but it was very
51:07
frustrating for me at times. It was like all or nothing
51:09
is what it was. Like, like I would be, I would,
51:11
I would get it and I would get always
51:13
slower than you like the time. That's the other thing that
51:15
matters that I keep talking about his typing speed is so
51:18
quick and his spelling is so good that he's not only,
51:20
he's going to get fast and he's not going to miss.
51:22
So it's hard to beat him to the punch. Even if
51:24
you come up with it faster, I'm sure I've come up
51:26
with a faster, but I can't get them on the board
51:28
faster. Yeah. I
51:30
got to think for a second and then I got to
51:33
get fucking start typing and then he's already beaten me. Dude,
51:35
it was a good ego day for me. Then afterward dirty's
51:37
like, let's all do a typing competition. I'm like, I've never
51:39
done one of these. Let's see. I don't feel like I'm
51:41
that fast of a typist. The blue
51:43
amount of water. Taylor thinks 97 isn't very good. But
51:48
I was like, I think I got like 90. No, I
51:50
don't think. Oh, okay. Even so that's
51:53
that's fast. Kyle, do you remember how fast you
51:56
went? Did you try it? I didn't try it,
51:58
but in school. I
52:00
took typing electives like multiple
52:02
times. I knew how to type. So
52:04
that seemed like the easiest fucking elective ever, ever. And all
52:07
we do is speed tests and I would
52:09
get high numbers, but they were simple words. I didn't
52:12
do the one, um, that y'all were doing. So I
52:14
don't know. I probably type 60, 60. I
52:17
got 55 and 56. Uh, it's pretty
52:19
consistent. That's just what I am. When
52:21
I was a, when I coded for a living,
52:24
there were a certain, like there are certain
52:26
things you type all the time. And like,
52:29
honestly, my manager brought his manager over and
52:32
a crowd gathered to watch me work because
52:34
I could just like navigate the Unix directory
52:36
structure and shit like that. And it was
52:38
loud. I had this old IBM like M
52:40
two keyboard, whatever it was. And it would
52:43
like, it's buckling spring. And it was just
52:45
like, and
52:48
it was cool. I made me feel
52:50
good about myself. They're all like, look at him
52:52
go fucking hacker man over here. He
52:54
just turned his hat backwards. Get ready. Which
52:59
one of you has to blow me dirty? He's
53:02
playing the bloodfish soundtrack. I
53:10
like that. Um, do you
53:12
know why a Romania is called Romania? Uh,
53:16
the Romani people. No, uh,
53:18
the Romans went in there and the,
53:21
and the people that live there resisted.
53:23
So they ground their cities to dust
53:25
and they renamed the place land of
53:27
Rome. Romania. The,
53:30
the Rome, the Romans were notoriously
53:32
uncool when they'd show up and
53:34
people resisted. They're like, they killed
53:36
one year of the Celts. We have like
53:39
the first modern army and you guys live
53:41
in the woods, right? Yeah. Have you
53:43
guys heard? Oh, these guys don't know what roads are. Well,
53:45
you wouldn't know because we're the only ones that
53:47
have them. Yeah. Oh, you're going to
53:50
kill a few of our guys. Well, we
53:52
have a road that we built along the
53:54
way that has more supplies coming. And
53:56
they're, yeah, they, they really
53:58
butt f**ked a lot of people. I
54:00
didn't know they killed a third of the Celts. That's insane.
54:04
It was that guy that I've been listening to. Dan
54:06
Carlin had a thing about – he
54:09
mentioned the Romans or an example of like
54:11
– he mentioned that example to talk about
54:13
what war is like and how war was
54:15
fought over the centuries and how complete the
54:18
destruction could be when people resisted and how
54:20
it was in your best interest if you
54:22
were a warlord leading a country that was
54:25
warlike and conquering to let it be known.
54:27
Okay. There's two ways this can go. The
54:31
second option isn't some of y'all make it,
54:33
by the way. It's that none of you
54:35
make it. What? And after
54:37
the fall of Rome, it was sort of the
54:40
Greece. It split into two? The Greece and
54:42
then Roman and then America and something.
54:44
Well, Rome never really
54:46
stopped, right? Endless things. So it split
54:48
into two. Yeah, well,
54:50
it split into two empires and it
54:53
still survives today there. And the Catholic
54:55
Church there is the Roman Empire. Yeah,
54:59
so I think it's 456, 453. The Roman Empire fell. It's kind of
55:01
schism split. And
55:07
then there was the Eastern, the
55:09
Holy Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire,
55:12
and in much
55:14
diminished capacity compared to like the full
55:17
Roman Empire. What
55:19
was the next empire? Would you say it was the
55:21
British? Yes, the British were the greatest
55:23
empire that there existed. By
55:26
every measure, by every measure. Ridiculous.
55:29
The sun never said something. I'm just trying
55:32
to think. I'm just wondering
55:34
how America compares. And I feel like Kyle
55:36
easily answers this question, but I can't. Because
55:39
we do it differently now. It's a sort of soft- We're
55:42
anti-imperialists from the very beginning. It's
55:44
codified. And even when we, even
55:47
with, I think it was the Philippines or somewhere
55:49
down there, we had relinquished control of it 10
55:51
years prior to World War II. Like we were,
55:53
we didn't, we weren't imperialists. We never
55:56
have been. But the English, I mean,
55:58
the whole world, Australia, and the world. India, United
56:01
States, and so much
56:03
of the whole planet, all of those
56:05
islands they conquered. It
56:08
was this tiny island nation that conquered everything. That's
56:10
one of the reasons, one of the things Japan
56:12
was looking at when they came out of their
56:15
isolationist period. They compared themselves. You
56:18
have the phrasing I've been hunting for. So let's
56:21
remove America specifically
56:24
and say, how does NATO compare to England?
56:26
Oh, well, they're not an empire. That's
56:29
the way we do it now, right?
56:31
Like we just influence, we set these
56:33
rules. We determine how wars are conducted
56:35
and who gets to go to war
56:37
with who. Yeah,
56:40
I don't know how you'd quantify it and compare just
56:43
such different eras and how things were done. Right.
56:46
Like a traditional empire, I think Kyle might be
56:48
on the money. The British Empire was unbelievably
56:51
impressive. There
56:54
were a lot of other, like the Persian
56:56
Empire, really impressive. The Roman Empire obviously. I'm
56:58
not doubting Kyle. I'm just asking him, like
57:00
it's kind of a thought experiment. How would
57:02
you compare NATO the way that we do
57:04
it? NATO is
57:06
just like this loose alliance
57:08
of countries that you can
57:10
add countries and remove countries from it. And
57:13
we're seeing right now just how non-cohesive
57:15
they are, how it's so hard to
57:17
just beat one aggressive country because we're
57:19
not together. The GDP of NATO
57:21
to Russia is like 20 to 1. I saw
57:24
a graph that like... Are we talking about Ukraine? They're not
57:26
in NATO though. Yeah, sure. But we've
57:28
made it our mission to like save
57:30
them from the invading Russians and we're
57:32
struggling to do that clearly. It's a
57:34
question of what it would be like if it was for real. If
57:37
Russia invaded Poland, right, a full
57:39
on NATO member, what would
57:41
that response look like? Would
57:43
we be giving Poland tanks or would we be there?
57:45
We'll be there. Yeah, so then
57:48
Ukraine isn't a very good proxy
57:52
for NATO strength. I
57:54
suppose. We'll see. Are we
57:56
thinking about overall influence? I
57:59
don't know. I feel like you need a central
58:01
leader to prepare him. Who's the
58:03
lamest NATO member? Is it Malta or something? I don't
58:05
know. An Empire is Malta taking its trade. If
58:10
Malta was invaded by Russia, we all would be
58:12
like, how serious are we about honour
58:14
for five guys? I hate Malta, don't fault. Get
58:16
them out of here. NATO would be like, alright,
58:18
it's come to our attention, Malta is a member.
58:21
I think, like a figurehead. I think to have
58:23
an empire, you need an emperor. Right? I
58:28
don't think you can have an empire if you don't
58:30
have a emperor. That's a great point. That's a really
58:32
– you need a king, you need an emperor in
58:34
order for it to qualify by these definitions. And so
58:36
I guess by that point, it
58:38
might be the Roman Empire or the British Empire.
58:42
Yeah, you had really powerful people. British
58:44
expanded more because Navy being
58:46
so huge to them in comparison
58:49
to the Romans not having to
58:51
lean as heavily into Navy because they conquered surrounding
58:54
the Mediterranean. Yeah, they walked
58:56
to their enemies on their roads. Then
58:59
there was like the empire rivalries. Like
59:01
how many centuries were the Roman Empire
59:03
and the Persian Empire like – I
59:07
mean the Greeks? No,
59:09
the Persians. The
59:13
Greeks rolled into the Roman Empire pretty
59:15
quick. No, the Persians are like Iranians
59:17
and further east empire. Did
59:20
the Romans have issue with them? Yes,
59:23
the Roman Empire and the Persian
59:25
Empire were at war for a
59:27
very long time. The Mediterranean didn't
59:29
know something because I'm over here coming up
59:32
empty on every – The
59:35
East Mediterranean, West, Middle
59:37
East, like those areas – Northern Africa?
59:40
Northern Africa, yeah. I
59:42
mean they conquered Egypt. Rome
59:45
had Egypt for so long. I saw a thing of –
59:47
Oh, I'm not saying it was always even. There were
59:49
centuries in there where Rome was butt-fucking them. Yeah,
59:51
I guess I never thought of them fighting them.
59:53
I thought of the Persian Empire as something different
59:55
maybe by Roman times. I just know it's
59:58
like super storied like the Persian Empire. against the
1:00:00
Greeks because you've got the hot
1:00:02
gates, you know, thermopoly, you've got the
1:00:05
marathon, the, all of that
1:00:07
stuff is the Athenian Athens
1:00:10
and Sparta, like teaming up and trying to rally
1:00:12
all of Greece to take on this empire that
1:00:14
dwarfs them from across the sea. Greek
1:00:17
history. So cool. Shout
1:00:20
out Greeks. Shout out to the Greeks. Pretty
1:00:22
awesome. All you gay boys with your olive
1:00:24
oiled up assholes, the leaders of the free
1:00:27
world. The Olympics. Hey, they invented
1:00:29
it and then they didn't win a ton
1:00:31
of medals back
1:00:34
in the day. They should go back to the
1:00:36
medal count back when they like won every medal.
1:00:38
Right. Oh my god. That's so funny. Each other.
1:00:40
They're like the Montreal Canadians like counting Stanley Cups
1:00:42
from 130 years ago. The
1:00:45
Greeks are like actually, if we
1:00:47
go back to the year minus
1:00:50
70, we've got you fuckers blown
1:00:52
out. We won every medal that
1:00:54
year. For
1:00:57
so many years, it's like awesome, like
1:00:59
Super Bowl championships. Yeah. 59 out of
1:01:01
59 from America, baby. Can't
1:01:03
be stopped in the Super Bowl. We should wrap because
1:01:05
we have the hangout tonight. Good call. Yes.
1:01:07
All right. PKN 506.
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