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0:01

PKN 506. What's up, boys? How's it

0:03

going? Oh, it's going good.

0:05

I've been watching Dan Carlin's

0:08

Supernova in the East. If

0:11

you don't know Dan Carlin's basically a historian, he

0:14

does these long form,

0:16

heavily researched, well put

0:19

together audio videos. It's

0:21

most it's audio, but I'm watching it on YouTube. I'm

0:24

eight and a half hours in and Pearl Harbor

0:27

just ended. It's eight and a half hours

0:29

until Pearl Harbor stops. Like, like, do

0:31

you get to Pearl Harbor? And then

0:33

he tells those events like the third starting point.

0:35

Yeah. Did

0:38

you start Japan invading China in 1931

0:40

and like the reasons for

0:43

their period? Yeah,

0:46

I was like, if the starting point was like the

0:48

beginning of recorded

0:50

time, then Pearl Harbor is pretty far along. Yeah,

0:52

that he's flying. Well, he's supernova in the East.

0:56

He's talking about Japan, the rising sun

0:58

of Japan, you know, going supernova and

1:00

turning imperialist. The motivations behind

1:02

that are very important. Understanding like

1:04

the racial undertones of the whole world and

1:06

how the Japanese were underestimated as

1:09

yellow monkeys by like the entire

1:11

world. Like they were like, oh,

1:13

they're very good at copying technology, but they

1:15

could never craft their own because the Japanese

1:17

were in this isolationist period. Well,

1:20

the Japanese were in this isolationist period for

1:22

a very, very long time, hundreds and hundreds

1:24

of years. They come out of it and

1:26

they send, they send envoys to all the

1:28

major countries. So they send one to

1:30

England, learn how Navy works.

1:33

They copy the English Navy. They're the best

1:35

Navy in the world. Why wouldn't they? They

1:37

send them everywhere. Military, art, history, everything. They

1:39

want to be the best at everything. And

1:42

it's interesting. He describes the Japanese people

1:44

as just like everyone else, just

1:46

more so. And it's

1:48

like, yeah, they do everything with such an

1:50

intensity and such

1:53

rigor that it goes overboard. And

1:56

then they, because they've had this period

1:58

of isolationist, they've romanticized. just how

2:00

rigid to Bushido their ancestors were. Just how

2:02

good that, the way we look at maybe

2:05

medieval knights and think of knights in shining armor who

2:08

do only good, tell only

2:10

truths, protect the

2:12

weak. Okay, all right, our

2:14

politicians say some similar vows, they don't keep

2:17

up with them. But because these guys have

2:19

never known personally that ruling Bushido

2:21

military class, they've heavily romanticized it.

2:23

So he tells all this to

2:25

sort of load you up for

2:28

what's coming in World War II. I'm fascinated, it's

2:30

so good. So you're done

2:32

with the engines already. I

2:34

learned all that there was. All that there

2:36

was to know. Yeah, that's pretty

2:38

fascinating. There's almost four days of

2:40

history there. What

2:43

I did was I went through all the resources available

2:45

to me without going to like a library or something.

2:47

Yeah, without a book. Well,

2:49

it's like, as I go further, it's like,

2:52

yeah, I know this, I know about that

2:54

ritual. I know that they would tie those

2:56

loops through the

2:58

skin in their chest and then tie it to

3:00

the pole and do their dance for days on

3:02

end. I know that that tribe had, their spear

3:04

had a crook in the end, like a shepherd's

3:06

crook, and they would stab it into the ground

3:08

and they tie a piece of leather from that

3:10

to their leg to make sure they didn't take

3:12

one step back. You know, because I went through

3:14

it all. I wanted you to learn all the

3:16

details of the different human sacrifice rituals. So you

3:18

could teach me about all the

3:20

ways they varied. How did the Incas do

3:23

it? How did the Mayans do it? Did

3:25

the Agnics revolutionize it? So they believed,

3:28

so the

3:30

Aztecs believed that the more the person

3:32

suffered and screamed, the more powerful

3:35

the blood magic would be so that they

3:37

could build a closer bond to

3:39

the gods or entities they were trying to

3:41

appease or connect with. So it was very

3:43

important that this person die afraid and terrified.

3:46

Thank God the Spanish showed up. So

3:48

they would hold you down, four people would hold you

3:50

down sort of almost bent over backwards over this like

3:53

bowed stone structure so that you're really exposed.

3:55

You would plunge the knife in. And

3:58

the goal was to tear your heart. You're like Jiro

4:00

dreams of sushi, but with torture, but with torture.

4:03

Yeah, ripping hearts out. Yeah, it's probably a good

4:05

thing. We put a stop to that I

4:11

don't know. I mean least you think it was working the human

4:13

sacrifice Well,

4:15

they did get a lot of money from the

4:17

Japanese guys. They did get a lot of money from the Japanese guys They

4:20

got a lot of money from the Japanese guys They got a

4:22

lot of money from the Japanese guys They

4:25

got a lot of money from the Japanese guys You think it

4:27

was working the human sacrifice Well,

4:29

they did they lost badly

4:31

when like a group much smaller

4:33

than them showed up I'm

4:35

that part of it Earth temperatures started rising

4:38

ever since the human sacrifice has stopped So

4:41

Cortez only had a few hundred men with him

4:43

and there's that famous quote of him like never

4:45

in history have had Such men as us come

4:47

so few and conquered so many and But

4:50

they'd also went around and they'd gotten all

4:52

the tribes that the main Aztec Aristocrats or

4:54

whatever had been bullying forever and we're like,

4:56

hey you tired of them raiding

4:58

your village and sacrificing your people So like

5:00

because that's what they do. They weren't necessarily

5:03

killing like your neighbor and sacrificing him You'd

5:05

go get those jungle people like we

5:07

live it's all it's a lot like Mel

5:09

Gibson's apocalyptto if you've seen that Which yeah

5:12

a lot of the the South Americans and

5:14

Central Americans were Very

5:16

stoked when they got that

5:18

offer from the Spanish at least from what I

5:21

learned where they're like Oh these

5:23

gun people are gonna save us from those,

5:25

you know Step pyramid

5:27

building sacrifices. This is kind of

5:29

nice Yeah, they just want

5:31

to go though. I just want to go

5:33

You know the the Spanish had this idea that

5:35

there was the El Dorado existed and

5:37

part of it was because early explorers English

5:40

explorers who had gone into the Amazon either

5:43

came back and lied or Saw

5:47

something we still haven't found that they were

5:49

fibbing looking for for more funding That's where

5:51

I want to be too But here's the

5:53

facts the guy who came back and told

5:55

the lies was like, please send me back

5:58

Send me and my son back And they gave

6:00

their lives looking for what he had found

6:02

before leading these expeditions down the Amazon looking

6:04

for this, these golden cities and

6:07

these huge civilizations that were that were

6:09

supposedly there. Some people say

6:11

that disease was introduced in those

6:14

cities to vault. You know, just went away. All

6:16

the people died. They ended up melting back into

6:18

the jungle when the leadership and the whole, you

6:21

know, tower of cards came from down. Well,

6:25

we haven't plowed the – well, what they've done is

6:27

that they can't – the Amazon rainforest is

6:29

still there, you know? So they've used that – it's

6:33

not lidar. They've used ground-penetrating

6:35

aerial radar of some kind, some

6:37

sort of sensor, and they found

6:39

large compounds and large – where

6:43

cities once were, but not where cities were a couple

6:45

hundred years ago, where maybe they were hundreds and hundreds

6:48

of years ago. But then it is the

6:50

Amazon rainforest, so I don't know. But

6:53

I love the guy

6:56

who talks about ancient civilizations, where

6:58

it's like there have been –

7:00

Dan Carlins. George Carlins, the comedian.

7:02

Oh, Dan Carlins. Dan Carlins. So

7:04

he does – The one who's

7:06

like – not Atlantis, but like

7:08

imagining an analogy for Atlantis, like

7:10

a sophisticated technology – more technologically

7:12

advanced – Oh, no. –

7:15

society that got eliminated. No, that's Graham

7:17

Hancock. So Graham Hancock, as much as I enjoy

7:19

his works on Go Blecky Tepi and all the

7:21

books he's written – I've read a couple of

7:23

them – he's more on the side of

7:25

like, wouldn't it be cool if, you know? Let's

7:27

kind of go along with this, and it'll be fun to imagine that –

7:30

That would be cool if. Dan

7:32

Carlins is a very respected, heavily

7:34

researched historian. So he does stuff

7:36

on Genghis Khan, stuff

7:39

on Alexander the Great. And

7:41

when you hear him speak, you'll realize he's not making

7:43

his mind up about something. He'll read from contradictory

7:45

sources, for example. He'll be like, well,

7:48

we're going to – in discussing the rape of Nan

7:50

King, it's like, okay. So here's what

7:52

these people say happened. Here's what these people

7:54

say happened, and here's what these people say

7:56

happened. Here's the evidence. Here's

7:58

a – missionary who was

8:01

there in Nanking a white Westerner and

8:03

what they said happened. Here's this

8:05

and you draw your own conclusions and he'll be

8:07

like, look, these numbers go from 1000 to

8:10

100,000. And just so we're clear,

8:12

the 100,000 isn't the highest number that people

8:14

claim. Some people say it was 5 million.

8:17

It's just when the Japanese went into China,

8:19

they killed for a decade when they

8:22

raped Nanking as it's called. It wasn't

8:24

like he compares it to the Assyrians

8:26

taking a city and how three days

8:29

of barbarism and the city fell and

8:31

burning, raping, pillaging, killing the

8:33

dogs and cats, raping the boys, raping the

8:35

women, killing all the men, slaughtering everything. And

8:38

then the king tells the story

8:40

of how I levied the rivers

8:42

and allowed them to flood the city. What

8:46

was before a sprawling metropolis was now

8:48

a flooded meadow. Nature itself could

8:50

not have brought such destruction upon my enemy.

8:52

And it's like, holy shit. But when

8:55

you get to Nanking, three months of

8:57

occupation and not just hanging out, raping

8:59

and killing for three months, they stayed

9:01

in this gigantic capital of China at

9:03

the time and just raped and murdered

9:05

and tortured and killed. And they go

9:07

through like the eyewitness to the testimony

9:09

of the Westerners and what they saw,

9:11

like all of the ways they found

9:13

bodies, the conditions that they were in.

9:15

And it's just everything you can imagine,

9:18

cut apart, dissected, split down the middle, split

9:20

in half, just all sorts of evil. What

9:22

was the build,

9:25

the sector seven, something like that in

9:27

World War II? Unit

9:29

731. Unit 731. That's what

9:31

it was. Yeah. And also

9:34

a thing that I didn't know was the Japanese were

9:36

extremely, they believed

9:38

that they were the master race of Asians.

9:41

They thought that the- They

9:44

still do. They

9:46

believed it enough that the extermination of

9:49

those people seemed like a good idea

9:51

and the subjugation of them that seemed

9:53

like a good idea. One of my

9:55

close friends is, she's Asian, Chinese,

9:59

and like- born in China and then grew

10:01

up mostly here. And she'll like every once

10:03

in a while, if someone asks, she'll be

10:05

like, what? Like, what's the

10:08

racism situation like over in Asia?

10:10

And she'll just be like, Oh,

10:12

like, so much

10:14

more than like, like white people

10:16

could handle. Like, white people are

10:18

so sensitive about all that shit. Like, like,

10:21

she'll be like, yeah, the Japanese, they think they're,

10:23

you know, the cat's pajamas, they think they're at

10:25

the tippity top. And then, you know,

10:27

the Chinese think they're at the tippity top. So

10:29

I think we're a little better than the Japanese,

10:31

you know, they got one over

10:34

on us a few times, admittedly, but

10:36

we're number one. And then I'd

10:39

say Koreans probably rank three. And then

10:42

someone asked her was like, what about

10:44

like Thailand, you know, Laos, the

10:46

Philippines, and she's like, Oh, us,

10:49

the Japanese and the Koreans all

10:52

could not care less about the jungle

10:54

Asians were all better than the jungle.

10:56

Absolutely. Yeah. Before. Yeah.

10:58

And the record is worse than that for

11:00

the japs in the Chinese like one v

11:03

ones, because it goes back so far. Genghis

11:05

Khan's grandson, Kublai Khan was the leader of

11:07

China. He was sitting on the throne of

11:09

China at the time. And he was the

11:12

one who started that first invasion

11:14

of Japan where they were going to send 50,000 troops

11:18

or something by ship across the, you

11:20

know, the gap from and and there

11:22

was a massive storm sunk their fleet.

11:24

And that's they call it the you

11:26

know, divine wind tsunami. And then are

11:29

not tsunami. Typhoon. It

11:32

was a storm, but the divine wind is, was

11:35

is kamikaze. That's,

11:37

that's the word. That's the word. Oh, yeah.

11:40

It means divine wind. And

11:42

so your next era. I

11:45

mean, it's gonna take me so fucking long just to

11:47

cover the japs in World War two. I probably got

11:49

another 20 hours of that. Just part of you want

11:51

to go like super ancient with it, like the Babylonian.

11:53

I want to hear Kyle become a Vietnam expert. I

11:55

think that's interesting. Well, They

11:58

touch on Vietnam as it. Haynes

12:00

to Japan and and Colonial colonialism.

12:02

Am yeah because the French had

12:05

been fighting in Vietnam for. A.

12:07

Long time, Right after World War Two, You know

12:09

there there's their fight sort of begins and like

12:11

fifty won or so. Arm. And

12:14

Vietnam. Memorial

12:17

Day. I don't like Vietnam sucks when

12:19

I was no fun as it gets

12:21

so much political American shit were like

12:23

nobody's resolute and what we're trying to

12:25

do. And. You've got. Just.

12:28

A boring or. Does. It does

12:30

not have an aunt or her understand how

12:32

we were so heavily committed, yet somehow fighting

12:35

with one arm behind our back and what

12:37

the logic was for the way that we

12:39

did this and public opinion. Getting. Reelected.

12:44

Yeah, that's a challenge. Winning worse

12:46

with a democracy? Yeah, Winning. Always

12:48

been there. Larry Winning: Very unpopular.

12:50

worse. Yet. When you look at how

12:53

to maintain popularity, I mean, when wars are won,

12:55

it's nasty. It's a war. In

12:57

with match and people get bayonet it in the

12:59

streets are we? so What? The American soldiers quickly

13:01

try to rush the battlefield so they could execute

13:03

all the dead Japanese before the officers could call

13:06

them off because. If you tried to

13:08

deal with them, they almost always had a

13:10

grenade in their hand. or never that grenade

13:12

in suck in the present. You guys don't

13:14

like it as much, but the Band of

13:16

Brothers Japanese version civic. Presented. As

13:18

if the Us in our seen it multiple times

13:20

and a lot of the stuff that's happened happens

13:22

in the Pacific are straight from real accounts. Are

13:25

the guy cutting the teeth out of the guys?

13:27

it. Like. That really happened. That makes sense

13:29

the reason. Real gold. he may as well. You

13:31

know, make a little months while the guy was

13:33

still alive. Okay Walid Kellen you know

13:35

those with a knife yeah and I know mind

13:37

to them screaming as the nice like Ny bought

13:39

and into his mouth exams at risk of getting

13:42

bit. Yeah. I knew that if

13:44

I walk a nice he's using high. I don't

13:46

want to brag that I would have killed them

13:48

first. This is my morals our brag but I

13:50

to use the I have my leatherman players. If

13:52

I was there you could be like all the

13:54

way better. You are a real job is gonna

13:56

hurt us. Know that he. Would

13:59

he goes. I could be keeping the teeth. About

14:05

a regular. Guy

14:07

the know her. I'm excited for you

14:09

to bounce around pass World War two.

14:12

And then. I want to learn

14:14

more about like Babylon. Assyria.

14:17

Those. Ancient per Ancient Persia.

14:19

The. Ancient Greeks. It's. It's

14:22

such a cool time and there's so much

14:24

to learn. Does. He do. does he not

14:26

do stuff about that either. They're all of that that

14:28

the next thing is gonna be Alexander the Great. Ah,

14:30

I want to learn of Alexander the Great because he

14:33

he seems like. Almost a fictional character,

14:35

he's such a bad ass. Like he's

14:37

conquering. Did you win His

14:39

first battle is sixteen or something. like like

14:41

a deity matter feel like a loser like

14:43

you. They show like images of what he

14:45

conquered and how much there was. and it's

14:47

like. Is. What he had been

14:49

after his eighty six battle at the

14:52

age of twenty one and like out

14:54

like this is rough to compare yourself

14:56

to. Great people are terrible. Appreciate this.

14:58

Eric Lindros season hockey player played for

15:00

the Flyers are birthdays are like one

15:03

day a part. Of.

15:06

America. I worked in tech support for

15:08

a software company and he scored goals

15:10

at methods and with his ethnicity or

15:12

the that. Now we're onto like I

15:14

wonder what Vladimir terrorists and goes up

15:17

to plan for the Rangers. Or whoever

15:19

he straightens now range is a hint about

15:21

your age of check He ended like. Know.

15:23

He can't be eight months younger than

15:26

me. That can't be possible. I have

15:28

no Nhl goals in her. Not a

15:30

single one. And yeah, we're falling behind

15:32

and so far buying lottery tickets. you

15:34

know I think it's absurd to set

15:37

up some of the given cigarettes league.

15:39

It's and again of sixteen year old

15:41

like warlords. Would

15:43

be savored, terrorist cat or off the

15:46

that that guy I'm and ballers or

15:48

whatever you seem minor probably said as

15:50

well though. This person. he's the one

15:52

that pays people like just engage he

15:55

and our triple see. At.

15:57

the com to his terrorists country and

15:59

and guns and he also

16:01

he's the one who has the

16:03

hair lip guy, Chamaya

16:06

like, you know, remember how I was talking about

16:08

he'll let the 16 year old boy like beat

16:10

Chamaya up for Instagram, like the warlord

16:12

son, this is the warlord son he's been made

16:14

the head of special forces. This is true. I

16:16

was just talking about comparing myself to something, see

16:19

myself on camera like man, your cheeks look a

16:21

little fat. And then this kid comes up. I'm

16:23

sexy as fuck and I'm 51 compared to

16:26

this 16 year old who's

16:28

chubby and pimply and just he's

16:30

ugly. Now if he he

16:33

may have one more growth spurt in him, you

16:35

know, that he might he might. Yeah, you

16:39

should be a pretty good buddy. Yeah,

16:41

I mean, he has a print. So I think he's got that going for

16:43

him. Yeah, I could steal

16:46

this guy's girlfriend or he could just be fat. You know,

16:48

Kim Jong Un. I think you can have a portrait if

16:50

you try it. You're

16:52

probably right about that. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, they would have to

16:54

come in and do it. The guys he's

16:56

commanding have have sharp

16:58

jaw lines, I bet. So you know,

17:01

I think it says they put him in charge

17:03

of special forces, which is

17:05

good. What is he? What

17:08

does he think? Right? He must

17:10

know he doesn't deserve anything that he

17:12

has. Well, this

17:15

kid can't run a quarter mile. Well, and

17:17

he's leading the special forces at 16 years

17:19

old. I think look, I hate this kid,

17:21

but I'm going to have to strongly disagree.

17:23

He's very athletic and he's he can operate

17:25

that rifle too. I mean, if

17:27

you go to his instinct, go to

17:30

the terrorist Instagram and he'll see that

17:32

like he doing athletically UFC fighting. Oh,

17:35

it is. You have to be a horse. He beat up

17:37

Jamayev multiple times. He's always. Oh, that

17:39

is impressive. That's the thing. Almost unbelievable.

17:41

These guys are like super fans of

17:43

mixed martial arts. Like he's got a

17:45

UFC gym in his house. Yeah,

17:49

I struggle to believe he trains a

17:51

lot. This is a weight class based sport. Mm

17:53

hmm. That makes me just, you

17:56

know, do you like more Kyle? Do you like the MMA?

18:00

Russians are the hockey Russians. Oh

18:02

the hockey Russians for sure because the hockey

18:04

Russians are playing like their national sports something

18:06

ingrained in them I'm sure and I

18:08

do Admire when I hear

18:11

about like the Russians coming over and playing

18:13

against the more physical Americans and when I

18:15

say more physical I mean the cheating Americans

18:17

and their reaction isn't to get mad and

18:19

and like stoop to our level It's to

18:21

be like you guys don't know how to

18:23

play this fucking game and it's kind of it like we're gonna

18:25

go home And we're not gonna talk about how we lost the

18:28

Americans. We're gonna talk about how Americans are losers Dude

18:30

like the version I like the That

18:33

thought process. That's my viewpoint It's

18:35

beating up the Russian team

18:38

is literally like another space race version where

18:40

they're like we made it to Orbit first

18:42

we did this first that first first living

18:44

thing and then we get to the moon

18:47

and we're like we win Every

18:49

we out for them to we

18:52

out scored them. We beat them up We

18:54

dominated them in every category of the game

18:57

and what did the except for complaining to the refs? They

18:59

got us there. They complained to the refs. That was their

19:01

strategy and they lost you Regard

19:05

they'd called it. They called those in the playoffs

19:09

Penalties the flight Americans Americans were assaulting fellow

19:11

athletes who were more skillful than them because

19:13

it's the only way that they could not

19:15

get embarrassed in their own Bobby Clark had

19:17

no teeth and a permanent case of bad

19:20

breath because he soaked himself in some sort

19:22

of fluid that he felt helped with muscle

19:24

recovery This

19:29

guy My

19:37

team Like

19:45

nothing mattered except winning hockey games he didn't

19:47

care about his own health he didn't care

19:49

about Anything except that he

19:51

won hockey games and nobody wanted to come

19:53

to Philly the

19:57

Would be the Russian Indian hockey players. While

20:00

the period it's not the truth anymore but

20:02

like there was a time especially not Soviet

20:04

era where like they just were better at

20:06

the game of hockey like they were smoother

20:09

at it they had better off and substructures

20:11

they're passing was better there are you can

20:13

watch him like kind of tipsy do I

20:15

do you remember Pavel Datsyuk like core he

20:17

was after that era a child can often

20:20

support in about that sick on the fall

20:22

guy foods and they were. They were revised

20:24

removed of the time except from you know

20:26

not physical at all and it took the

20:28

Canadians in the Americans being. Hyper physical

20:30

the try and spook I'm and

20:32

then overtime the Canadians. For.

20:35

Aid Gotta give Canada some credit they'd They

20:37

really figured it out and got way better.

20:39

It's this is Americans now are getting to

20:41

the point where where like as good. At

20:44

as. Canadians of hockey for

20:47

almost. Were. Starting to get there were

20:49

like are superstars are on Canadian levels because

20:51

for so long it was like he we

20:53

are a number of read on right? like

20:55

holy shit. Like. Yeah well mean

20:57

and wrong number is way more than that.

21:00

By as like Georgia doesn't count used to

21:02

be like a guy Connor Mcdavid like a

21:04

Canadian guy was like oh he's the best

21:06

in the were already in yeah something like

21:08

that he that like an American you never

21:11

going American superstar that everyone so I would

21:13

break out and like like a Brett Hall

21:15

where it's like does not like an all

21:17

time goal scorer and he's fucking American. sorry

21:20

grew up in general but I can't remember

21:22

if it was born in America. Now they

21:24

have asked the math is born in. Phoenix

21:26

best goal scorer in the league right now. And

21:29

moan, it's kind a neat as it used to be.

21:31

like there was the tier of. With.

21:33

The raiders the an adverb. He. Was

21:35

raised in Phoenix. Yeah, And. i

21:37

know basketball into that turns you off but

21:39

a lot of the best players watch over

21:42

us the game last night we have five

21:44

hours on i don't remember the last time

21:46

america had an mvp you know like a

21:48

league best player lunch or years ago ma'am

21:50

he looked at as thirty nine he's a

21:52

great player he still top ten but he's

21:55

not mbp bless every p was a sixer

21:57

draw a bead before that it was joking

21:59

twice Uh, and he's Serbian

22:01

before that. I think it was Giannis

22:03

and he's Greek

22:06

And before that I

22:08

don't know American but this next one's not going

22:10

to be American either this year's now that it

22:13

That seems absurd that we're not I

22:16

think it is not a date. We the european

22:18

game is like I guess you know,

22:20

I I don't follow basketball at all but when I

22:23

do see because I like get sports stuff served to

22:25

me on twitter and whatnot and and Disproportionately

22:28

there's a dude in texas who's

22:32

uh, Donchich or something

22:34

like that. Yes. Yeah, luka. I saw

22:36

luka donchich No, my guy's my guy's

22:38

not fucking american very clearly and apparently

22:40

he's like wrecking people and then I

22:42

know That other guy you

22:45

just mentioned the joker. Yeah And

22:47

he has like the most eastern european

22:50

face and eastern european hair you've

22:52

ever seen you would love him taylor I think I

22:54

told you before I might have said this already, but

22:56

they're like, how do you play defense? He's like, oh

22:58

I did I stayed in front of him and I

23:00

try to make him hard That

23:04

like like plays basketball because he's incredible at

23:06

it and they're like, what are you gonna

23:09

do with the championship? And he's like I

23:11

go back to Serbia Play

23:13

with my horses. You you would not believe how

23:15

much I love what he won the championship last

23:17

year for the first time I love that and

23:19

they're all like are you looking forward to the

23:21

parade the parade? He's like what? parade

23:25

When is parade and they're like it's

23:27

thursday like no, no I

23:30

just want to go home Basketball

23:33

is a job for me. I'm like everyone

23:35

else. I I don't like my

23:37

job. I you know, maybe some people like the job

23:40

They are lying Yeah,

23:43

I like god damn i'm really happy to get on the

23:45

parade does he have to be on that fucking float because

23:48

i'm Gonna go to your championship turned out. I wouldn't want

23:50

to after the parade. He would want to have a good

23:52

time Yeah, I'd be like

23:54

you think I did this for you people You

23:56

know You

24:00

know what I mean? Like that'd be my attitude.

24:02

I'm not playing. I'm not trying. I'm not sinking

24:04

those baskets For the for the people

24:07

in the fucking crowd certainly not the Lakers

24:09

crowd. I watched the game last night as

24:11

as uh uh I

24:13

bet $5 that the uh, yeah,

24:15

I bet what do you $5 that the NBA riders

24:17

would keep LeBron in it for at least one more

24:20

game And goddamn if they didn't maintain the league for

24:22

the lead in the game the Lakers that is for

24:25

About like three quarters of the fucking game the

24:27

Lakers went no They lost at

24:29

the very end by like two points or something.

24:32

I have a theory on that I think it's

24:34

because Denver has the cardio from training a mile

24:36

high They've had a bunch of comebacks

24:38

and they just always seem to win in the fourth

24:40

quarter and better cardio you think Mile

24:43

high. Yeah altitude training. Yeah, I

24:45

I put a lot Um into

24:48

that theory because i've seen it play out

24:50

time and time again And

24:52

high altitude fighting environment. So they they

24:54

have fights in Mexico City and they

24:56

have fights in In Denver

24:59

and Mexico City's altitude might be 7 000

25:01

feet and Denver's of course the mile high.

25:03

Um, so it's around Almost

25:05

exactly 5,000 feet Yeah,

25:08

and it's so close and oh my god,

25:10

you're like, whoa, what happened? Did he not

25:12

work out? This

25:14

guy not even did he do no cardio because

25:16

there's gas ramp You see their mouths open. It's

25:18

like this guy usually has a gas tank so

25:20

that he can sprint for three rounds and tonight

25:23

He's clearly pacing himself. It's a big deal Yeah

25:27

Um, but anyway, basketball is born international. Oh, there's one

25:29

last thing. I was listening to this guy in the

25:31

olympic team And uh, he's like

25:33

I thought we were gonna win automatically

25:36

I forget who it was but he's like, you know, we got

25:38

lebron on the team. We got ad on the team. We got

25:40

uh Uh, Kevin Durant on

25:42

the team. He's just listing all these like hyper

25:44

stars He's like, I thought we'd show up and

25:47

like just never lose like we'd

25:49

win without barely trying We lost

25:51

three games They did get

25:53

the gold but uh It was hard

25:56

so Your team is still

25:58

in for now Yes,

26:00

they played tonight is very disappointed and

26:03

they just need to win push it

26:05

to game six and then

26:07

seven and then seven Well,

26:10

I'm pulling for the 76ers. Fuck the

26:12

Knicks. Thank you for that. It's Dan

26:14

the Knicks We're down three one.

26:16

It should be two two if I showed

26:18

you the play You'd see they

26:21

absolutely mugged a guy at the end of

26:23

the game Like they fouled up three times

26:25

in like three seconds. They pulled him to

26:27

the ground by his jersey and Then

26:30

the coach was calling timeout twice and

26:32

the rest were looking at the coach, but they

26:34

didn't call the timeout I don't know why that

26:36

happened. You should know that was yeah sixes fans

26:39

and everyone kind of agrees They should have won

26:41

that game, but they're not gonna change it. So

26:44

now they're down three one and the sixes

26:46

are the fans anywhere already talking

26:48

about next year in the other

26:51

sport of the NHL your Carolina

26:54

Hurricanes are up three to one on

26:57

the New York Islanders And I

26:59

think I think the canes probably have

27:01

their best shot at a cup this year than they've had

27:03

in a long time Because there there's

27:05

no way there's no way they lose another

27:07

one to the Islanders. They're gonna win tonight

27:09

for sure. I shouldn't

27:12

say that I have a notoriously bad

27:14

record at predicting sports, but I'd

27:17

like to see them them either them

27:19

get one or man,

27:21

I feel so bad for Toronto

27:23

fans because they They

27:26

haven't won a Stanley Cup since 1967

27:29

and they care and they

27:31

care so so deeply about it

27:34

and they've so the

27:36

way the division works Kyle is in the divisions

27:38

over time is they often get paired

27:40

up Toronto against the Boston Bruins and

27:44

You know how they're just Rival

27:46

reason sports where one side

27:48

almost always wins Mm-hmm

27:50

the Toronto Maple Leafs have not had a

27:52

winning series in the playoffs against the Boston

27:55

Bruins since 1957 59

27:59

something like that 75 years. It's

28:01

an unreal amount of time. People

28:05

have lived full lives and died. The

28:07

fans aren't mean about it or anything. They don't

28:10

do pants or make t-shirts. Dude, I'll see like

28:12

Bruins hockey fans like before the series even starts

28:14

to be like, dude, I'm not even fucking nervous,

28:16

dude. Like there's not, there's no chance. And then

28:19

the Toronto Maple Leafs fans are having a connection,

28:21

but the Bruins are up three to one. I

28:24

said I thought Toronto had a good shot this year

28:26

to do something and I, it's looking like I was

28:29

wrong again. And so that I don't,

28:32

I used to, I guess I don't even dislike the Bruins.

28:34

Why would I? Last time we met them, we

28:36

won a Stanley Cup. So it worked

28:38

out. But man, poor Toronto. They're

28:41

so sad all the time. And

28:44

it's the only team they like their whole

28:46

city cares about. It's hard

28:48

to be a player there too. Cause

28:50

if you're not just coded and gold

28:52

gleaming every game, they're like hassling you

28:55

when you fill your car with gas.

28:57

Oh, like you, if you suck dick

28:59

on the Carolina hurricanes, you

29:01

could go to the grocery, you could score

29:04

on your own goalie and then

29:06

go to like the grocery store the next day

29:08

and no one's going to know. But

29:10

Toronto fans, like they're taking closeup

29:12

videos of the guys talking to

29:14

each other on the bench and

29:16

having like, Hey, Toronto lip reader

29:18

here. And then like playing what's

29:20

going on. Their

29:22

best player, Austin Matthews had to leave the

29:25

game, probably not by his own volition like

29:27

the doc, the team doctors and medics and

29:29

whatnot have to step in. And apparently he's

29:31

sick and was like, yeah, food poisoning

29:33

or was like too dehydrated to keep playing.

29:36

It would be my guess. And

29:38

like the whole fan base is

29:41

like players

29:43

for the fucking Bruins and the blues

29:46

and the Kings, they'll

29:48

break a foot and keep playing. But Austin

29:50

Matthews have an, has an upset tummy and

29:52

fuck him. They're

29:55

so mad. One of the reasons

29:57

the Sixers are struggling. really

30:00

dependent on our best player. And he's

30:02

really, really good, but without him, we're

30:04

nothing. And right now, like

30:06

his knee is fucked. He can barely

30:08

jump. He had surgically removed a meniscus

30:11

a couple of weeks ago, and he

30:13

has Bell's posy, so he has to

30:15

blink with this hand. He reaches up

30:17

and closes his eye and he's still

30:20

powering through it. And he scored 52

30:23

games ago on water for us, but

30:26

the narrative, man, keeps his eye on the

30:28

ball. No

30:30

matter, he don't blink. I

30:34

hear he paralyzed the side of his face intentionally,

30:36

so he never misses a play. He paralyzed the

30:38

side of his brain that makes him nervous. Only

30:42

affects your face. That's the beta blocker. He doesn't seem

30:44

to bother below the neck that

30:46

I can tell. I don't know. It's not

30:48

like neurological going on to cause face paralysis,

30:50

but I guess if you're able to play

30:52

in an NBA playoff game, it's not that

30:54

severe. Yeah. Anybody who's got

30:56

Bell's palsy now, I'm like, get over it. How many

30:59

points could you score? I

31:01

don't think. Probably none. Probably

31:03

none. Speaking

31:06

of bonafide superstars, are you guys ready

31:08

to get manhandled in Scriblio again? Oh

31:10

my goodness. We played this game called

31:12

Scriblio and basically you got, it

31:15

doesn't matter if people are on our team, but a bunch of

31:17

people on our team. And we take turns drawing with our mouse,

31:19

a word that's given to us, the secret word. And,

31:22

and so the team has to guess

31:24

the word and type it. Okay.

31:26

So it requires vocabulary. Type it

31:29

in. So it requires

31:31

vocabulary, spelling and typing. And

31:33

Taylor is like a nine out of 10

31:35

on all three of those fucking skills. I

31:37

think you're underestimating him. Not

31:40

only will he get it rather

31:42

quickly, but he'll know how

31:44

to spell it the first try, which

31:46

is important, and he'll get the input

31:49

in rapidly. And he dominated at this

31:51

game. Like I've seen few people dominate

31:53

at any. He's

31:55

just fucking dunking on us. And he's like

31:57

worried about his lead. He's up by thousands

31:59

of points. I don't know what

32:01

he's coming like. He doesn't even have to play anymore. I'm

32:04

like 55 words a minute. But

32:06

I would spell like direction or compass

32:08

at 55 words a minute. Symmetrical,

32:11

I'm down to like seven as

32:13

I process that. You know, slowly

32:15

trying to like... How many times?

32:19

So it's S-Y... And

32:21

that's if you've guessed the word. Like you have

32:24

to guess the word, then you have to spell

32:26

it correctly. Dude, I forgot how to spell cloud.

32:28

Like I swear, I don't know how I forgot

32:30

how to spell cloud. Yeah, that was a funny

32:33

moment. I heard a lot

32:35

of nubbies in there. Hahahaha. It

32:38

was cloudy actually. Yeah, cloudy. That's what it

32:41

was. And something about it being cloudy,

32:43

I wasn't spelling cloudy. I was spelling cloud. I

32:45

don't know what I was doing. But I typed

32:47

it wrong like three fucking times. And I was

32:49

like, I don't know how to spell cloud. And

32:52

everyone can see your bad guesses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh,

32:54

that's the best part. Like as you're

32:57

typing, if you miss, the miss

32:59

sticks in the chat for everyone to see. It's a

33:01

text chain. And

33:04

so that can be helpful because I'll see

33:06

people misspell a word. Because cloud is one

33:08

of the few words I'm apparently retarded on.

33:11

Usually I can spell okay. And it's

33:13

like, they'll type rendezvous, but they'll have

33:15

it all fucking wrong. And I'll

33:17

be like... And now I've got it because that's

33:19

a huge clue to me. I know you

33:21

meant rendezvous, but I didn't see rendezvous up there. And

33:24

some of them, I just

33:26

blank. When he was drawing SpongeBob SquarePants, I

33:29

was like, yellow rat trap? Why

33:32

is it yellow? Why is that rat trap

33:34

yellow? Every once in a while a

33:36

word would come up. Like most

33:38

people in the chat were struggling. Obelisk.

33:41

Oh, obelisk. That one, that solidified

33:43

my first game. He

33:46

was the only person to get it. I

33:49

loved the twelve people in there. But then

33:51

one of the words was scythe. And

33:53

I saw a million creative spellings.

33:55

Where people were clearly like, alright,

33:57

there's a sea in a wall.

34:00

somewhere in the middle

34:03

of this. I typed sickle three

34:05

times in a row correctly and then

34:07

just gave up and decided it was something else.

34:09

I was like that's not... if

34:12

you... I don't know. Like sometimes

34:14

I'll have it. Occasionally I'll beat you. I'll

34:16

be the first one. But it's rare. I

34:18

think I was fourth one game and

34:21

Taylor's first in every game

34:23

and it's not close. It's like

34:25

he could stop playing toward

34:27

the end. And it's a fun

34:29

fucking game. I like it. I do wish...

34:32

It was a good time. And I'm not

34:34

saying it would change who wins or who

34:36

does anything. I just wish we

34:38

had a trackpad. Like I would prefer to

34:40

draw with my hand and a mouth. Not

34:42

because I think I'm necessarily better at it

34:44

or that it would change how the cards

34:46

would fall but I would just rather do

34:48

that because I think I could like represent

34:50

my drawing skills a little bit better because

34:52

I'm so bad at drawing. I'm like I

34:55

know what I want. I want a guitar with the

34:57

amp next to it because I need an electric guitar.

34:59

I got what you were going for. But as I'm

35:01

doing it at one point I go I'm

35:04

so sorry I can't draw a guitar. I

35:08

think the word you were going for was electric. And

35:10

I typed guitar which I think is

35:12

the same amount of letters. I don't know. Nobody knows that. And

35:16

it was an electric guitar. It was a compound word. Oh

35:18

was it both? Yeah you get some of the word. That's

35:20

the other thing. I remember it wrong. It's

35:22

like Wheel of Fortune so that you can see the length.

35:25

Or Hangman. So you see how many letters and

35:27

slowly it's like it'll give you one letter. Like

35:30

the whole group gets one letter like to

35:32

help them along. But I'll

35:34

be so engrossed in the drawing that's

35:37

taking place. I'll forget to look

35:39

up there. And it's like dude that's a

35:41

three letter word. Just start guessing three letter

35:43

words because sometimes that's... Someone called

35:45

me out for that. Like even before anyone

35:47

started drawing. I was typing like Cal. You're

35:50

like you thought that was a Cal? There

35:53

wasn't even a clue. I was just... Yeah

35:55

it's because I kept forgetting that there was

35:57

a clue up there. That's why later I

35:59

was like... We removed that clue because I keep forgetting

36:01

to look at it anyway. Yeah, I

36:03

think I, uh, a huge amount is I

36:05

felt like I was paying more attention to

36:08

the amount of letters you just have like

36:10

a better reservoir of words to choose from.

36:12

You know, like give me a six letter

36:14

word with a third letter is T and

36:17

you're like, Oh, I got like four of those. What could

36:19

it be? And I had zero. What

36:22

I liked a lot, like just

36:25

enjoyed was the people complaining

36:27

about the drawing, right? Some guys

36:29

would picture drawing like

36:31

an entire neighborhood, right? There's three houses. There's

36:34

some trees. This is a dude mowing his

36:36

lawn to pick a fence, some flowers and

36:38

Kyle's like, what are we supposed to focus

36:40

on? Absolutely.

36:43

It was, it was sometimes

36:46

it would just be people getting frustrated where it'd be

36:48

like, what the fuck is this? And then other times

36:50

the word would be like road

36:53

and they wouldn't start with like two lines and

36:55

then like dash it down the middle. It'd be

36:57

like they'd start with a house car or the

37:00

car on the road, like a cul-de-sac and it'd

37:02

be like, there's too many factors. I'm a hundred

37:04

percent right with what I'm saying. Once you've got

37:06

your picture done and we're just sitting there like

37:09

clearly no one knows what you've done because they haven't

37:11

guessed it. And now we're just staring at your picture.

37:13

I need you to circle the relevant part or

37:16

draw arrows to it because I was, my clue

37:18

was full moon. So I did my best in

37:20

drawing. I think I won that one. That was

37:22

the first thing to get it. Full moon. And

37:24

then I drew a circle around it and the

37:26

arrows like sort of recycling thing, like, like just

37:28

pointing like this one, not that one. Cause

37:30

I don't know how to draw a full moon. Cause

37:33

you'll get a circle with dots on it. If I don't

37:35

have the crescent moon and the idea of the progression, maybe.

37:39

Yeah. There was one, I was proud of myself because

37:41

Taylor complimented me on it. I'm still on a high,

37:44

but there was complaining about

37:46

the use of colors. People were

37:48

wasting time with colors, all this

37:50

frustration. And my clue was

37:52

popcorn. So I made the box red and

37:54

white striped, which is to me like classics

37:56

would have popcorn-y and then the

37:59

popcorn wasn't great. It's hard for me to draw the

38:01

tailors like that's a good use of colors that you

38:03

know that helped with the clue That was a perfect

38:05

use of color, but then other times people are like

38:08

hmm the word is Traver

38:11

I prefer a green train About

38:21

the the patrons you get a mixed

38:23

group you get some guys that are

38:25

moving to Upper West Side of

38:27

Manhattan this week to who are worth millions of

38:29

dollars And then you get some

38:31

guys who smell They

38:38

only smell cuz they're wearing that furry costume and

38:40

it seems some mileage yeah But

38:43

not far off I really liked that game that was a

38:45

fun Like a few

38:48

minutes, that's what we're talking about is like the $50 patron

38:50

hangout if you care to join yeah part

38:53

like weeks late or 10 bucks or

38:56

also like and I started Like

38:59

cheating for lack of it. Well it based on cheating was

39:01

really opposite I was helping everybody else once I figured it

39:03

out each out out. It was making it

39:05

a little more fun Yeah I Only

39:08

didn't like you when you were doing that because

39:10

I was really trying to goose my numbers before

39:12

the end of the game Cuz I would get

39:14

it right and then what he would be like

39:16

well. How do you draw a train? And

39:20

I'm like fuck no no some guy out

39:23

loud asked how do you spell bonsai and

39:25

I'm like B O N S A I

39:29

But everyone's like got it got it got it got it got it Yeah,

39:32

it's a fun game in that like there

39:35

are sometimes though where you just can't get

39:37

it And it's so demoralizing to be like

39:39

all right nine other people have it But

39:41

I can't get it through my head what

39:43

this is supposed to be that's why I

39:45

was extending olive leaves I was trying to

39:47

be good Gulf of Mexico, and I oh

39:49

you got sugar Oh Mexico

39:58

immediately very sharp leave my shit

40:00

alone, dude. No, shark. I thought it was

40:02

tied into the Mexico story. Yeah.

40:08

But, but it was like, Oh, that's clearly America. And he's pointing

40:11

those arrows to the Gulf of Mexico and nobody was

40:13

getting it. And I was just. Dirty

40:15

was so upset because the guy would erase it and then

40:17

draw it again. And then he raised it and draw it

40:19

again. He's like, you keep drawing the same thing. I was

40:22

like, well, I don't know. 12 people got it so far,

40:24

bro. That was frustrating because

40:26

some, there, I don't remember which person

40:28

it was, but one dude just kept

40:30

having the most bafflingly bad drawings. And

40:32

he'd be like, Oh, I'm sorry. I'm

40:34

using a track pad. Just

40:39

be like, he couldn't draw circles. It was

40:41

like, it had, it was three inch lines

40:43

connected to each other because it was so

40:46

high. It couldn't read like a millimeter and read

40:48

like an inch at a time. Also he couldn't

40:50

like, there'd be clearly such like, so you're trying

40:52

to draw a fence, right? You know how to

40:54

do it. Like two parallel straight lines and vertical

40:56

ones. This guy couldn't make a line remotely straight

40:58

for the life of him. And it

41:00

was the pencil. He was the one who drew

41:02

the pencil that looked like a banana. I

41:05

got, I got no points on that pencil one

41:07

and I was a little annoyed because it's like

41:10

he couldn't have drawn a worse pencil.

41:12

Yeah. He wanted to, I had a challenge

41:15

to draw a pencil as bad as I

41:17

could. He would have beaten me. He would

41:19

have swept me in the series. Yeah. That

41:22

and code names, a couple of very fun games.

41:25

I want to find more stuff like, like

41:27

they, I need to try a Pictionary out.

41:29

I've never really played Pictionary, but if that's just what Pictionary

41:31

is, I think I'd be pretty good at it. Yeah. Yeah.

41:34

You shout out the answer in like real life

41:36

Pictionary. So it's a little like charades, but instead

41:38

of acting it out, you draw it out. Do

41:40

you play board games much ever or not

41:43

really? No, no,

41:45

I don't. Okay. I

41:48

can imagine having fun, but if anyone would have

41:50

proposed the idea, I'd be like anything but

41:52

this. I don't know. Board games.

41:54

I love board games. They're so, so fun.

41:56

It depends on the board games. I don't

41:58

want to play. a goofy

42:00

board game where we're basically rolling dice

42:02

and giggling about it because that's fucking

42:04

stupid and that's a soft game for Soft-minded

42:07

people so that your dumb girlfriend doesn't get

42:09

embarrassed in front of a group I'll never

42:12

forget the night that this pretentious couple came

42:14

over and played Um

42:16

a trivia game with me and my girlfriend

42:18

and this guy was always just bragging about

42:21

how many degrees he had worthless fisher He

42:23

he what he did was he took the

42:25

ph levels at fisheries and for this

42:27

he was a doctor He was

42:29

a glorified pool ph tester like

42:31

he'd bring data back. I'm so

42:33

proud I stopped his asshole into

42:35

just oblivion in that game because

42:37

he had no basic knowledge and he had zero

42:39

pop culture knowledge and it was just Play

42:43

something else now and they got

42:45

out some kind of like hungry hungry hippos

42:47

or some shit like you know something that

42:49

That like there's no winner in basically or

42:51

the winner is the guy who just like

42:53

hungry hungry This is cutthroat spams What's

42:58

something like that some stupid fucking game? I agree

43:00

There needs to be a win like like

43:03

a good example of a game I don't

43:05

like to play is like a cards against

43:07

humanity style game where it's like There's

43:10

no one's really winning in that

43:12

like whereas code names or scribble

43:14

Oh dictionary, whatever that game secret

43:16

Hitler Catan

43:18

ticket to ride like there's a winner.

43:20

There's a strategy to it And

43:23

so at the end when you win, it's

43:25

like damn my I out Strategized them or

43:28

when you lose it's like fuck they

43:30

out strategize me I was trying to

43:32

get from Yaroslavl Russia to my route

43:34

in Bahrain and they cut off the

43:36

right in the middle of it That

43:39

was really tactical of them fuck when

43:41

people come over we place super Mario

43:43

Brothers party It's something close to

43:45

your party. Yeah, Mario part. It's a very

43:47

silly game and it's Being

43:50

good doesn't help you win

43:52

that much. There's too much luck involved I

43:55

pulled last places the last two

43:57

times I played and it's frustrating

44:01

It works in our house though because we have

44:03

this like projection screen and you know for controllers,

44:05

but You guys would

44:07

hate that game. It's the video equivalent of what you

44:10

hate When

44:13

we play Super Smash we play you're like

44:15

giant projector at that house and that made

44:17

all the difference I don't know it wouldn't

44:19

have been fun even on like a large

44:21

TV like a 70 something inch But being

44:23

it on like 200 inches or whatever like

44:25

a wall Well, yeah, it

44:28

made you know, you're looking around as the it's

44:30

it made it a much better game obviously lemme

44:32

do that I

44:35

yeah, I had never played before That's

44:37

so surprising that you never

44:40

played Super Smash even on the the n64

44:43

I have an n64 that game has a

44:45

really hot it looks like it's silly game

44:47

like Mario Kart But it has a really

44:49

high skill ceiling the people who

44:51

are good at it will beat people who are

44:53

bad at it every time Yeah, yeah, I played

44:55

you can think you're okay at it and then

44:57

you play someone who really knows what they're doing

44:59

and you're like Oh, I didn't

45:01

even know these moves were an option like

45:04

I didn't know this could be done Just

45:06

grabbing me with DK throwing me in the

45:08

air. I never touched the ground. I'm not

45:10

having fun Yeah, I only had

45:12

a cup. I had Sega Saturn and the Sega

45:14

Genesis that say Santa with CDs Genesis

45:17

was cartridges and then like a Nintendo NES before

45:19

that. That's all I ever had We're

45:22

gonna PlayStation 2 when vice in put certainly

45:24

invite city and want to burn people you

45:26

went right to two You never had a

45:28

ps1 No,

45:31

no, absolutely no Yeah,

45:35

I didn't get bought but my parents wouldn't buy me things like

45:37

that So I always had to go and like earn money to

45:39

get video games because they saw it as like, you know frivolous

45:43

silliness PS2 I think

45:45

I justified it because it was only

45:47

slightly more expensive than another dvd player.

45:49

Yep So made it

45:51

work. Yeah, it was great. I think I

45:53

remember going in there and and buying that

45:56

thing I remember specifically like the day I

45:58

bought that PlayStation. It was so Nice,

46:00

so this graph so but I was playing

46:02

SOCOM Navy SEALs with a phone not an

46:05

Ethernet cable a phone cord stuck into the

46:07

PlayStation 2 I Back

46:12

in the ps2 days like when my kids

46:14

struggled with games They'd hand me the controller

46:16

and I was just you know kicking ass

46:18

for them getting past all those platformers

46:21

that they couldn't do and and

46:24

The tide has turned I did the

46:27

transition of power is never peaceful Colin's like

46:29

sitting on me And

46:33

of course he it's like he's Serbian

46:35

or something cuz he messes up the language I've

46:37

said this before but you know you're hard for

46:39

fall guys aren't you? Yeah

46:45

The hardest for fall guys can't

46:48

keep his guy upright falling Mmm

46:54

that game a scribble Oh, I don't know

46:56

if we explored every option of I

46:59

like having the letters at the top because

47:01

it's fun And I guess it's another layer

47:03

of vocabulary And I obviously like the vocabulary

47:05

aspect but like if there was a

47:08

way to do it in teams

47:10

or pairs or like Something

47:12

like that I call it free for

47:14

all yeah Well, yeah,

47:17

you're fun addition Um

47:19

I mean we I bet we could find Pictionary

47:21

of some like like You

47:24

know and just do that There

47:26

was also talking to a codenames that

47:28

has photos instead of words codenames pictures

47:30

is Absolutely

47:33

harder than codenames course it is yeah,

47:35

it's I I have that physical game

47:38

And it's so words are specific there can

47:40

be synonyms or there can be synonyms and

47:42

stuff like there can be words But

47:45

you get like oh that word could be this

47:47

or that but when you got a picture pictures

47:49

worth a thousand words that could Be maybe it's

47:51

the situation in that picture. Maybe it's not the

47:53

boat or the river Maybe it's paddling you

47:56

know like it could be anything or it could go the wrong

47:58

way like you know you're You're

48:00

trying to people are focused on the wrong thing actually that

48:02

ties into what you just said Yeah, like it's like I

48:05

want you to say boat, but maybe I don't know they're

48:07

in a boat having fun Like in

48:09

the couple are they married are you going for

48:11

Lake? Yeah, you don't know it's a lot harder

48:13

Yeah, and a lot like pretty much all the

48:15

pictures in codenames pictures are Like

48:19

it you won't get one of a pyramid

48:21

like it's not ever one thing It'll

48:23

be a pyramid But it's also

48:25

an upside-down ice cream cone and the

48:27

ice cream is also a lake with

48:29

like palm trees on so it's like

48:32

multifaceted and so there's a bunch of ways

48:34

to tie it in and you have to

48:36

think like it's even more Complicated

48:38

in the word version because it's like man am

48:40

I the only one who's seeing this

48:42

is like also And is our other probably your

48:45

meter to the ice cream cone sometimes

48:47

when when someone starts drawing I am

48:49

immediately like oh, I see it And

48:52

sometimes they're they're done and everyone has guessed

48:54

it correctly and I'm just like Wouldn't

48:57

know where to start that looks like scribbles to

48:59

me like like I can't make that into shapes

49:02

anymore It's just scribbles. I'm like, what is that?

49:04

There's that scribbly little doodad you put over there.

49:06

Were you just bored? Yeah,

49:08

and then like you finish a drawing and then

49:10

like there's nothing else to add and say you're

49:12

like, all right I guess I'll put a tailpipe

49:14

on the truck and maybe a window and a

49:16

group One person's word was truck and they do

49:18

a car and I went I

49:21

had already guessed truck Somehow and

49:23

I went put a tailgate on it

49:25

for God's sake Thank

49:32

you Jesus He

49:34

had drawn a truck and a car I

49:37

think like to show that show that it

49:39

wasn't a cried contrast and I

49:41

couldn't get my head off vehicle I was just

49:43

on it. Let's take the vehicle I

49:45

was vehicle. Oh, well, I might

49:47

be conflating. They're two different ones. Yeah. Yeah.

49:49

Yeah, it was fun It was a good

49:52

time and it was nice to get away from code words a

49:54

little bit Little

49:57

change of pace little change race. I'd like to change it

49:59

some more I don't have any specific ideas,

50:01

but the idea of changing is cool. I

50:04

would like something team based like like Taylor

50:06

said, because then Taylor doesn't

50:08

just beat us all. Like, like maybe I could

50:10

share some glory with somebody. I literally think if

50:12

we had 12 people playing

50:14

that game, Taylor could win. I

50:18

it might be 100 times out of 100. Not

50:21

that many times, but like it

50:23

would get to what's your number. I

50:26

would win the majority of the time. Oh, shut up. No,

50:28

no, that's not a number. One guy kept pace. I

50:30

have one of the games so far. Paste

50:36

with you for a while. And then like, sometimes

50:40

there were the second game we played the first

50:42

four. I got zero. The

50:44

first four clues. I was just like, the fuck

50:46

is all this shit? I don't see it. You

50:48

climb back to like fifth by the end though,

50:50

I think. Yeah. I skipped the first four questions

50:52

and pulled up to fifth or something by the

50:55

end. Yeah. That happened. The other two people that

50:57

were second, third and

50:59

fourth was dirty

51:01

robot and you. I

51:04

would say I did okay, but it was very

51:07

frustrating for me at times. It was like all or nothing

51:09

is what it was. Like, like I would be, I would,

51:11

I would get it and I would get always

51:13

slower than you like the time. That's the other thing that

51:15

matters that I keep talking about his typing speed is so

51:18

quick and his spelling is so good that he's not only,

51:20

he's going to get fast and he's not going to miss.

51:22

So it's hard to beat him to the punch. Even if

51:24

you come up with it faster, I'm sure I've come up

51:26

with a faster, but I can't get them on the board

51:28

faster. Yeah. I

51:30

got to think for a second and then I got to

51:33

get fucking start typing and then he's already beaten me. Dude,

51:35

it was a good ego day for me. Then afterward dirty's

51:37

like, let's all do a typing competition. I'm like, I've never

51:39

done one of these. Let's see. I don't feel like I'm

51:41

that fast of a typist. The blue

51:43

amount of water. Taylor thinks 97 isn't very good. But

51:48

I was like, I think I got like 90. No, I

51:50

don't think. Oh, okay. Even so that's

51:53

that's fast. Kyle, do you remember how fast you

51:56

went? Did you try it? I didn't try it,

51:58

but in school. I

52:00

took typing electives like multiple

52:02

times. I knew how to type. So

52:04

that seemed like the easiest fucking elective ever, ever. And all

52:07

we do is speed tests and I would

52:09

get high numbers, but they were simple words. I didn't

52:12

do the one, um, that y'all were doing. So I

52:14

don't know. I probably type 60, 60. I

52:17

got 55 and 56. Uh, it's pretty

52:19

consistent. That's just what I am. When

52:21

I was a, when I coded for a living,

52:24

there were a certain, like there are certain

52:26

things you type all the time. And like,

52:29

honestly, my manager brought his manager over and

52:32

a crowd gathered to watch me work because

52:34

I could just like navigate the Unix directory

52:36

structure and shit like that. And it was

52:38

loud. I had this old IBM like M

52:40

two keyboard, whatever it was. And it would

52:43

like, it's buckling spring. And it was just

52:45

like, and

52:48

it was cool. I made me feel

52:50

good about myself. They're all like, look at him

52:52

go fucking hacker man over here. He

52:54

just turned his hat backwards. Get ready. Which

52:59

one of you has to blow me dirty? He's

53:02

playing the bloodfish soundtrack. I

53:10

like that. Um, do you

53:12

know why a Romania is called Romania? Uh,

53:16

the Romani people. No, uh,

53:18

the Romans went in there and the,

53:21

and the people that live there resisted.

53:23

So they ground their cities to dust

53:25

and they renamed the place land of

53:27

Rome. Romania. The,

53:30

the Rome, the Romans were notoriously

53:32

uncool when they'd show up and

53:34

people resisted. They're like, they killed

53:36

one year of the Celts. We have like

53:39

the first modern army and you guys live

53:41

in the woods, right? Yeah. Have you

53:43

guys heard? Oh, these guys don't know what roads are. Well,

53:45

you wouldn't know because we're the only ones that

53:47

have them. Yeah. Oh, you're going to

53:50

kill a few of our guys. Well, we

53:52

have a road that we built along the

53:54

way that has more supplies coming. And

53:56

they're, yeah, they, they really

53:58

butt f**ked a lot of people. I

54:00

didn't know they killed a third of the Celts. That's insane.

54:04

It was that guy that I've been listening to. Dan

54:06

Carlin had a thing about – he

54:09

mentioned the Romans or an example of like

54:11

– he mentioned that example to talk about

54:13

what war is like and how war was

54:15

fought over the centuries and how complete the

54:18

destruction could be when people resisted and how

54:20

it was in your best interest if you

54:22

were a warlord leading a country that was

54:25

warlike and conquering to let it be known.

54:27

Okay. There's two ways this can go. The

54:31

second option isn't some of y'all make it,

54:33

by the way. It's that none of you

54:35

make it. What? And after

54:37

the fall of Rome, it was sort of the

54:40

Greece. It split into two? The Greece and

54:42

then Roman and then America and something.

54:44

Well, Rome never really

54:46

stopped, right? Endless things. So it split

54:48

into two. Yeah, well,

54:50

it split into two empires and it

54:53

still survives today there. And the Catholic

54:55

Church there is the Roman Empire. Yeah,

54:59

so I think it's 456, 453. The Roman Empire fell. It's kind of

55:01

schism split. And

55:07

then there was the Eastern, the

55:09

Holy Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire,

55:12

and in much

55:14

diminished capacity compared to like the full

55:17

Roman Empire. What

55:19

was the next empire? Would you say it was the

55:21

British? Yes, the British were the greatest

55:23

empire that there existed. By

55:26

every measure, by every measure. Ridiculous.

55:29

The sun never said something. I'm just trying

55:32

to think. I'm just wondering

55:34

how America compares. And I feel like Kyle

55:36

easily answers this question, but I can't. Because

55:39

we do it differently now. It's a sort of soft- We're

55:42

anti-imperialists from the very beginning. It's

55:44

codified. And even when we, even

55:47

with, I think it was the Philippines or somewhere

55:49

down there, we had relinquished control of it 10

55:51

years prior to World War II. Like we were,

55:53

we didn't, we weren't imperialists. We never

55:56

have been. But the English, I mean,

55:58

the whole world, Australia, and the world. India, United

56:01

States, and so much

56:03

of the whole planet, all of those

56:05

islands they conquered. It

56:08

was this tiny island nation that conquered everything. That's

56:10

one of the reasons, one of the things Japan

56:12

was looking at when they came out of their

56:15

isolationist period. They compared themselves. You

56:18

have the phrasing I've been hunting for. So let's

56:21

remove America specifically

56:24

and say, how does NATO compare to England?

56:26

Oh, well, they're not an empire. That's

56:29

the way we do it now, right?

56:31

Like we just influence, we set these

56:33

rules. We determine how wars are conducted

56:35

and who gets to go to war

56:37

with who. Yeah,

56:40

I don't know how you'd quantify it and compare just

56:43

such different eras and how things were done. Right.

56:46

Like a traditional empire, I think Kyle might be

56:48

on the money. The British Empire was unbelievably

56:51

impressive. There

56:54

were a lot of other, like the Persian

56:56

Empire, really impressive. The Roman Empire obviously. I'm

56:58

not doubting Kyle. I'm just asking him, like

57:00

it's kind of a thought experiment. How would

57:02

you compare NATO the way that we do

57:04

it? NATO is

57:06

just like this loose alliance

57:08

of countries that you can

57:10

add countries and remove countries from it. And

57:13

we're seeing right now just how non-cohesive

57:15

they are, how it's so hard to

57:17

just beat one aggressive country because we're

57:19

not together. The GDP of NATO

57:21

to Russia is like 20 to 1. I saw

57:24

a graph that like... Are we talking about Ukraine? They're not

57:26

in NATO though. Yeah, sure. But we've

57:28

made it our mission to like save

57:30

them from the invading Russians and we're

57:32

struggling to do that clearly. It's a

57:34

question of what it would be like if it was for real. If

57:37

Russia invaded Poland, right, a full

57:39

on NATO member, what would

57:41

that response look like? Would

57:43

we be giving Poland tanks or would we be there?

57:45

We'll be there. Yeah, so then

57:48

Ukraine isn't a very good proxy

57:52

for NATO strength. I

57:54

suppose. We'll see. Are we

57:56

thinking about overall influence? I

57:59

don't know. I feel like you need a central

58:01

leader to prepare him. Who's the

58:03

lamest NATO member? Is it Malta or something? I don't

58:05

know. An Empire is Malta taking its trade. If

58:10

Malta was invaded by Russia, we all would be

58:12

like, how serious are we about honour

58:14

for five guys? I hate Malta, don't fault. Get

58:16

them out of here. NATO would be like, alright,

58:18

it's come to our attention, Malta is a member.

58:21

I think, like a figurehead. I think to have

58:23

an empire, you need an emperor. Right? I

58:28

don't think you can have an empire if you don't

58:30

have a emperor. That's a great point. That's a really

58:32

– you need a king, you need an emperor in

58:34

order for it to qualify by these definitions. And so

58:36

I guess by that point, it

58:38

might be the Roman Empire or the British Empire.

58:42

Yeah, you had really powerful people. British

58:44

expanded more because Navy being

58:46

so huge to them in comparison

58:49

to the Romans not having to

58:51

lean as heavily into Navy because they conquered surrounding

58:54

the Mediterranean. Yeah, they walked

58:56

to their enemies on their roads. Then

58:59

there was like the empire rivalries. Like

59:01

how many centuries were the Roman Empire

59:03

and the Persian Empire like – I

59:07

mean the Greeks? No,

59:09

the Persians. The

59:13

Greeks rolled into the Roman Empire pretty

59:15

quick. No, the Persians are like Iranians

59:17

and further east empire. Did

59:20

the Romans have issue with them? Yes,

59:23

the Roman Empire and the Persian

59:25

Empire were at war for a

59:27

very long time. The Mediterranean didn't

59:29

know something because I'm over here coming up

59:32

empty on every – The

59:35

East Mediterranean, West, Middle

59:37

East, like those areas – Northern Africa?

59:40

Northern Africa, yeah. I

59:42

mean they conquered Egypt. Rome

59:45

had Egypt for so long. I saw a thing of –

59:47

Oh, I'm not saying it was always even. There were

59:49

centuries in there where Rome was butt-fucking them. Yeah,

59:51

I guess I never thought of them fighting them.

59:53

I thought of the Persian Empire as something different

59:55

maybe by Roman times. I just know it's

59:58

like super storied like the Persian Empire. against the

1:00:00

Greeks because you've got the hot

1:00:02

gates, you know, thermopoly, you've got the

1:00:05

marathon, the, all of that

1:00:07

stuff is the Athenian Athens

1:00:10

and Sparta, like teaming up and trying to rally

1:00:12

all of Greece to take on this empire that

1:00:14

dwarfs them from across the sea. Greek

1:00:17

history. So cool. Shout

1:00:20

out Greeks. Shout out to the Greeks. Pretty

1:00:22

awesome. All you gay boys with your olive

1:00:24

oiled up assholes, the leaders of the free

1:00:27

world. The Olympics. Hey, they invented

1:00:29

it and then they didn't win a ton

1:00:31

of medals back

1:00:34

in the day. They should go back to the

1:00:36

medal count back when they like won every medal.

1:00:38

Right. Oh my god. That's so funny. Each other.

1:00:40

They're like the Montreal Canadians like counting Stanley Cups

1:00:42

from 130 years ago. The

1:00:45

Greeks are like actually, if we

1:00:47

go back to the year minus

1:00:50

70, we've got you fuckers blown

1:00:52

out. We won every medal that

1:00:54

year. For

1:00:57

so many years, it's like awesome, like

1:00:59

Super Bowl championships. Yeah. 59 out of

1:01:01

59 from America, baby. Can't

1:01:03

be stopped in the Super Bowl. We should wrap because

1:01:05

we have the hangout tonight. Good call. Yes.

1:01:07

All right. PKN 506.

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