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And I never saw the

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all of them Oh no,

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at that, Drake, I ran in You're

4:20

gonna take it higher Oh,

4:23

I'm not allowed to You're

4:26

gonna take it higher Oh, I'm

4:28

not allowed to The

4:59

Nuggets are in fact not dead The

5:02

Nuggets are good at basketball They

5:04

didn't forget how to play I

5:07

actually, so it felt like a lot has

5:09

happened in the last three days of the

5:11

playoff world And the number one story is

5:13

the Denver Nuggets evening the series against

5:16

the Minnesota Timberwolves And what

5:18

we said last week, like this is the first

5:20

time the Nuggets are gonna have their back against

5:22

the wall In the last year and

5:24

a half of playoffs And turns out

5:27

they answered the bell and they looked

5:29

awesome And Nicole Jokic, who

5:31

is the best player in the world Who

5:34

you saw the little doubters creeping

5:36

out of their holes and being like Ooh,

5:38

Nicole Jokic shouldn't get his third MVP

5:42

He had a master class on Sunday night Yeah, and

5:44

Friday night they played really well too The

5:46

overreaction was, I think it

5:48

was somewhat warranted though because they looked like shit in

5:51

the first two games Michael Malone even said, you know

5:53

what he did? He went home and he put together

5:55

a compilation tape of all

5:57

the talking heads talking shit about the Nuggets

6:00

That ain't do out because I hate those

6:02

guys. I did that because there were right

6:04

right? So he actually credit to Michael Malone

6:06

for respecting the biz and given Stephen a

6:08

Smith all the credit for turning around it

6:10

was so bad sector like see they smith.

6:13

I. Was he saw this but after the game or

6:15

the most recent one where they went up. Are.

6:17

Just after Friday's game see that Smith said

6:19

i yeah I I was wrong and I

6:22

apologize. While I've never heard Stephen a Smith

6:24

back go Yeah that is Christ but I

6:26

think when we talked about it we released

6:28

just saying what we've seen which was the

6:31

nuggets look like shit a lot lot simpler

6:33

look. Timber Wolves look awesome which they did

6:35

through two games and then they found out

6:37

Yeah okay we can actually play with these

6:40

guys that went on Friday gave them lot

6:42

of confidence as weird Sears because we haven't

6:44

had a home team when yet. Rights when

6:46

business. Trips all around and joke it's

6:49

was incredible are all weekend long. He

6:51

had a in the two games he

6:53

had fifty nine points, twenty one rebounds,

6:55

sixteen assists in those two games are

6:57

tonight, especially. It. Feels like ah

6:59

they are. You don't want to say

7:01

they saw something because this series will

7:03

go back and forth and now you

7:05

could count upon From the Wolves. But

7:07

joke is basically like was messing with

7:10

the Murray Pick and Rolls. Was.

7:12

Like oh I'm Skyn Stop before I

7:14

get close to the rim and neutralize

7:16

your to go bare and shoot these

7:19

floaters that are there. And. He

7:21

was so awesome and then also helps Eric Gordon

7:23

played out of his mind eleven to twelve. Ah,

7:25

From the field was hitting everything. like when

7:28

Eric Gordon plays like that. everything opens up

7:30

Because now when you're doing pick and rolls

7:32

when you're coming to the rim he's standing

7:34

out there. He's gonna, he's gonna shoot is

7:36

going to make it. And the

7:38

wolves defense and and the worst part for

7:40

the wolves Tonight. And. I don't

7:43

wanna listen. I understand it's emotional for

7:45

fans when your team is in in

7:47

the playoffs. and you've also got guys

7:49

you've written for for a while. Last.

7:52

Week I joked about Karl Anthony Towns

7:54

making the you know people talk about

7:56

the big Three, Me and and Vertigo

7:58

been. Arm. Like, I

8:00

don't think people talk about that as a

8:02

big three. Tonight is why? Because Quality Towns

8:05

was fucking dog shit. And. Have Three.

8:07

Edwards was incredible and they wasted a

8:09

forty four point night for me Anthony

8:11

Edwards because he rudy go bare in

8:13

college towns. Were. Not good.

8:16

Well. Yeah, really go. There wasn't great side

8:18

but the yeah the Nuggets did the worst damage

8:20

when he was off the court. Yeah putting it

8:22

when he went out was the have to quick

8:25

thousand. He went out and they went on a

8:27

huge rather. it was like a twenty four to

8:29

six. Ron twenty four to four runs up like

8:31

that is because Rudy wasn't on the court and

8:34

got crazy towns. I don't understand how a guy

8:36

is size still doesn't know how to play in

8:38

the post like he gets. He is in the

8:40

post in if there's if it's Eric Gordon while

8:43

one airborne condemned down. If they send a double

8:45

team, he panics and looks completely. Lost. He was

8:47

five for a team tonight and like as it

8:49

hit the edwards was out of the swaps. I

8:52

don't know. If. There's an actual conversation

8:54

we had, but like it feels like not

8:56

read should be playing more. Especially

8:58

leader in the game. And. Maybe.

9:01

Tape Sitting Go Bear or Carla Three Towns

9:03

What? Remember those those Game one right? Not

9:05

really matter and his lips shut up. I

9:07

just did. The frustration across agency has all

9:09

the the ability in the world. but then

9:12

you have night like tonight where it's like

9:14

if you want to be big three you

9:16

kick off I for eighteen and waste of

9:18

forty four point. Performance from your

9:20

best player. And. The average upper this

9:23

way. if I was cat size I would be

9:25

the best basketball player in the history the world.

9:27

Yeah, I really would ever negotiated Shoot out of

9:29

this was only thirty seven percent of the show

9:31

level and and they had the ropes or is

9:33

play well on the road. Yeah, Eric Gordon us

9:36

we'll never. As the theme of the series as

9:38

we always say it, I know a game isn't

9:40

won or lost in one moment, but. I.

9:42

Do actually think that the game was

9:44

lost for the wolves? Ah, with forty

9:46

seconds left in the first half, As.

9:49

He ever hit a three to cut the lead

9:51

to seven. Forty. Eight seconds

9:53

left. They. want to have time they're down

9:55

fifty yard said they the game was over one small

9:57

murray hit that shot at apps on sell his They

10:00

fought all the way back because they went down you

10:02

know in the second quarter and like okay We're going

10:04

to half down seven. That's great And he's like what

10:06

the fuck just happened somebody do the stats on that

10:08

for me if there's a buzzer beater before halftime in

10:11

The game 55 for a 55 footer. I bet you

10:13

that team goes on to at least cover the spread

10:15

Yeah in the second half. I do think that I

10:17

think the wolves will have a good answer on Whatever

10:21

game Tuesday night. Yeah, maybe ruda go bear

10:23

just has to have another kid Well, maybe

10:25

they need to have just like another three-day

10:27

break And then and then

10:29

it flips back. Yeah, cuz I this

10:32

series is buckle up That's what I'm gonna say buckle

10:34

up for this series I was just very impressed by

10:36

the Nuggets and I know that they They

10:39

shouldn't be doubted because they won a championship, but

10:41

they want it somewhat easily and that's a credit

10:43

to them That's not saying it was an easy

10:45

path Path but

10:47

this was their first like real test of

10:49

these of the playoffs in the last couple

10:51

years and it's like holy shit They

10:54

answered it and they answered it resoundingly were

10:56

for real and we like we're not gonna

10:58

go down like punks Hank you had something

11:00

you looked like you were gonna say earlier

11:03

What do you think you went back scared about the nuggy you moved

11:05

up to the mic? Yeah, I

11:07

mean if I'd the Nuggets are the scariest team

11:10

in the West you're right left in the playoffs

11:12

period Yeah, do you think the wolves will

11:15

where do you think this series is gonna go? I think it's gonna go

11:17

seven. I Think it's gonna go

11:19

six. Really? You think the Nuggets have it in the next

11:21

two? Unfortunately

11:23

just figure I hope I hope I hope the

11:25

wolves win in six But the fact that Stephen

11:28

A Smith apologized concerns me that would concern me

11:30

deeply deeply if I was a Timberwolves fan Yeah,

11:32

they could run somebody over in his car If

11:34

he was driving it blindfolded and he'd be like

11:36

that person shouldn't have been in the intersection Well,

11:38

it's why like the the Nuggets are the team

11:40

you want to face the least Because

11:42

they had the most experience and this is you

11:44

know that time of the playoffs where experience matters

11:46

and like the Nuggets just do Not care like

11:48

they're not worried about you know the

11:51

pressure of game five or six or seven Cuz

11:53

you know kids, you know the team leader and he

11:55

doesn't care. Yeah, I kind of bounces off that whereas

11:57

like Anthony Edwards is 22 the they're

12:00

super young even you know the Mavs don't

12:02

have experience this deep in the playoffs so that's why you

12:04

know thinking about the championship if you were to do that

12:07

you'd rather play one of those you know younger

12:09

more experienced teams but that's why I think the

12:11

Nuggets it's kind of they're gonna

12:13

roll from here on out it was a fun weekend

12:15

reminder that you know Kitch is the best player because

12:18

like just the way

12:20

he plays and the pace he plays

12:22

and and the decision-making that he like

12:24

he just puts the defense into such

12:26

a bind when he's on that

12:29

no one else is really like that and it's

12:31

passing right off a pick and roll right yeah

12:33

it's just a big he's a big question that

12:35

you have to answer and in the shooting before

12:38

you get to the rim like figuring out exactly

12:40

where he can he can take apart a defense

12:42

with the defensive player of the year and really

12:44

go bare and just seamlessly doing it it's just

12:46

he's incredible and Hank said that he that he

12:48

doesn't really care but Yokich actually would have seen

12:51

from in the last two games he very much

12:53

cares no not care like I you saw him

12:55

a couple times out there getting really

12:57

heated up like he deeply cares about this team and

12:59

he wants to win he might yeah when he gets

13:01

home he might be like oh shit I wish I

13:03

was you know in a horse stable back

13:05

in Serbia for the next two weeks but when

13:08

he's out there with his team he definitely does

13:10

care and wants to win very badly no that's

13:12

not what I meant at all obviously he cares

13:14

he's the best player in the world I meant

13:16

more about like the pressure of you know games

13:18

they get later in the series doesn't feel the

13:20

pressure he doesn't care if it's game seven

13:24

or if it's game two yeah he does he feels

13:26

like it's the finals or if it's the first round

13:28

the same guy every time and it's a killer but

13:30

with younger teams I mean even the silent even in

13:33

Celtics in the past like you can kind of see

13:35

teams pucker up a little bit yeah as

13:37

the pressure is nothing but success for the Celtics

13:39

in the past though something

13:41

like that rank the four teams out

13:44

of the West scary who are you the most scared of

13:46

and then all the way down to who you're not scared

13:48

of at all nuggets

13:51

one nuggets Timberwolves Thunder

13:56

really hmm what if what if

13:58

I reread if Carrie steps Kyrie

14:02

has gotten smoked in every

14:04

single game he's played against the

14:06

Celtics, I think, since that happened.

14:09

Kyrie's playing out of his mind right now. Yeah,

14:11

no, he's really good. I just think the matchup

14:14

versus Thunder would be probably harder for

14:16

the Celtics and the Mavs. We

14:18

actually did a bad job. The most important story out

14:20

of the NBA playoffs this weekend is one that happened

14:22

on Thursday night right after we got done recording. Somebody

14:26

had their phone out and played porn during Lucas'

14:28

press conference after the game. Yes,

14:30

it was actually the first time a lot of those reporters

14:32

had ever heard porn. Yeah, they were like, my God. What

14:34

the fuck? I wish Jake Marsh was in the room at

14:36

that time. Is there a cat

14:38

in distress? So what do you think the

14:41

root cause of that was? My theory is

14:43

that somebody clicked something and it opened up

14:45

like Safari on their phone, and

14:47

the last time they had been on Safari, they

14:49

were watching porn. So they could go private. They

14:51

forgot to close that out. Or maybe they accidentally

14:54

opened up a private tab and it was still

14:56

open from last time. Sometimes I've

14:58

heard that if you have it open

15:01

and you close Safari, like if you have a

15:06

YouTube video and it will still be on your home

15:08

screen to press play. Oh,

15:11

where you, yeah, yeah. I've heard that that could

15:13

happen. What was the James Brown video that he

15:15

watched? Little... Damp Lips. damplips.com.

15:18

Little brunette bitch sucking her trainer's cock. I'll find

15:20

it for us. Hank, why don't you, let's do

15:22

an experiment. Maybe pull

15:24

something up on your phone and then see, press

15:26

play and then see if it shows up on your

15:28

home screen. James

15:31

Brown was... It

15:34

was definitely damplips.com. It was damplips.com

15:37

and it was a sexy little

15:39

brunette. Okay. Hold

15:41

on. I'm trying to find it. I deleted it, obviously. We

15:44

got to find it. If I were him, I would

15:46

never delete that. Yeah,

15:50

no, leave that up. It stays up. Let

15:52

people have the fucking link. Listen, I'm a

15:54

man. Yeah.

15:56

The, uh... Are

16:00

you doing it? Are you doing it?

16:02

Mm-hmm. All right, let's do Hank is giving you a test

16:05

right now. So press play Is

16:08

not showing up Do

16:10

you have like that covenant eyes app where you're not allowed to

16:12

watch porn? Oh

16:15

nope, there it is What is

16:17

it? Oh, it's right there. Oh, it's right. Okay, so now hit

16:19

it and see if you can get it to play Yeah,

16:25

okay was that fart porn? Sound

16:28

like a fart that I don't trust people though that

16:30

don't X out right away or sexy little brunette bitch

16:32

suckers I'm you and I have you're just big cock

16:36

Um, I don't trust people who don't X out right

16:38

away. I agree. You have to X out right away

16:40

the minute The

16:43

minute you caught you're just like what am I

16:45

doing if you don't know that I'm saying no,

16:47

that's no no That's what happened. Yeah, that's that's

16:49

that's what I'm saying. So you close it out

16:51

walk us through what you just did you

16:53

you're watching Yeah, okay You

16:56

finish some close it out gate of research close out

16:58

What do you mean close out like you just shut

17:00

your phone and it just stays on the the home

17:03

I I know what you're

17:05

talking about if you watch like a you're watching.

17:07

Yeah, I close it Yeah, and then I close

17:09

my phone like I'm done. Yeah, it's still amped

17:11

lips is still up on your phone Yeah, got

17:13

it. Why do they have the shared a Twitter

17:15

button on porn videos? I mean, there's some

17:17

people who probably want to share and why do

17:19

they have a comment section in porn videos? Sound

17:22

off the comment section. I just said I

17:24

love the the porn comment section. You get

17:26

the real takes down there. Who is she? Yeah

17:30

Anybody have a name Yeah

17:32

at doing someone give it at

17:35

I hope it devolves in like goat conversations

17:37

down there. Yeah Yeah, yeah,

17:39

this is the goat. This is why she's my

17:41

goat. Yeah, by the way Skip

17:43

bailis or Stephen a Smith apologizing

17:46

makes me think that Stephen ate or skip bailis

17:48

is like He is not

17:50

as popular as Stephen a Smith. I think

17:53

that debate is over You think you think

17:55

Stephen a won the breakup? He won the

17:57

breakup, but I Think skip Bailis

17:59

won. If you want to see

18:01

like who stayed true to themselves, Miss

18:03

Skip is still just firing. Crazy.

18:06

Takes with no remorse. He

18:08

had one that I'm a mad that we didn't

18:10

come up with. Ah, When. Frank

18:12

Vogel got fired for doesn't from the

18:14

Sun's he said. Frank Vogel lead the

18:16

Lakers to the Twenty Twenty championship. Since

18:19

then, he's already been fired twice. Shows

18:21

you how the league's you. The Lakers

18:23

bubble talk or title. Mickey Mouse. Yeah,

18:25

everybody all right. Mobile Getting fired. Why

18:27

goddamn that he died. Mickey Mouse. Good

18:29

detective work also. That makes me think

18:31

that how you skip Bayless his last

18:33

two consecutive breakups, you would agree that

18:35

also Shannon Sharpe has been just as

18:37

com net is an obsession. So it's

18:39

like Skip Bayless is good luck Chuck.

18:41

Where'd you get was. Skip Bayless. Yeah, then

18:43

your careers about to absolutely take our I

18:45

like. As soon as you get done not

18:48

having to talk to Skip Bayless anymore like

18:50

become so much better. Skip Bayless. Try to

18:52

make a manual optional popular challenge. Yep. Level

18:54

impossible. I'm actually skip if you want to

18:57

be an internal part of my take. Yeah,

18:59

will take you know, take younger looking for

19:01

cowboys and that he grates. Ah, We.

19:03

Got. Was. We get to fucked up a skip

19:06

Bayless. We do that.

19:08

Ernestine, I don't know, Earnest

19:10

and exists. the other she does does. yeah

19:12

yeah we say also even same bed during

19:14

the week. Yeah. I don't know. the Cs.

19:17

I don't see a lot who takes those

19:19

videos. Or. See it might

19:21

be. Or see there are senior with

19:23

gleeful. That's it. Yeah. right?

19:25

That's the only too often though. A Lil Wayne. My

19:28

bad. His. Best friend's little when.

19:31

He. Is. Of. Course. We.

19:35

Would routers with while a what he's we

19:37

like swallowed as he was and still his

19:39

apart says he a smart a yellow rice

19:41

or it a new sports and be a

19:43

low in pakistan it look there's or seem

19:45

right there. With. Ya on the

19:48

on those rise I don't know retire I

19:50

wasn't restart what the similarity because if I

19:52

speak or be miserable Aside was a Sunday

19:54

mass. I'm. I'm.

19:57

Might be out on the thunder. They're

20:00

young, they're fun, SGA

20:03

is awesome, Chet

20:05

is awesome, I love

20:07

Lou Dort, even though this might not have been

20:09

the best Lou Dort game because they were like,

20:11

hey, what if we just did UFC to Luca

20:14

all game? Lou Dort just

20:16

delivered like a perfect knee to the midsection

20:18

on one of those plays. And

20:20

Luca's like, I know we said

20:23

that he lets you know he's hurt, he's actually

20:25

hurt now because they just keep hurting him. So

20:27

I think that two things can be true about

20:29

Luca. One is he complains about everything. And

20:31

the second is he's also tough as fuck.

20:33

Also, Max told us after the show on

20:35

Friday, he was like, when you guys were

20:37

talking about Luca being the new Big Ben,

20:40

I was just silently being like, please don't bring

20:42

up Embiid. Embiid is the new Big Ben, that

20:44

was our fault. Correction. Good point, Max. Good point,

20:46

Max. I'm out

20:49

on the Thunder for one reason, they

20:51

can win me back. I

20:54

thought that was so fucking lame that they

20:56

did hack a lively with six minutes left

20:59

down five. It was a five point game

21:02

and they started doing hack-a-shack on Derek

21:04

Lively who I love, I

21:06

always root for the guy who gets hacked to prove

21:08

them wrong. And he did, he went eight for 12

21:10

from free throws. You're

21:12

the one seed and you're down

21:14

five in the fourth quarter with six minutes

21:17

left and you have SGA and one of

21:19

the best players in the NBA and you're

21:21

doing fucking hack-a-lively. Also, come on, man. Lively

21:23

is becoming one of my favorite players, one

21:25

of my favorite role players in the NBA.

21:28

He works so hard on defense. He's fun

21:30

to watch and when you do, there was one time

21:32

when Chet was chasing him around the court like

21:35

he was playing tag. And Lively had

21:37

to run out of bounds and run back in

21:39

bounds and Chet was just running out with his

21:41

arms outstretched like Pay-Pay-La-Pew trying to catch the girl,

21:44

Kat. It was very funny to watch,

21:46

but you're right. I root for the guy that is

21:48

being singled out as being a shitty free thrower. And

21:50

it just ruins the flow of the game. The

21:53

end of the game, it Was a great

21:55

game and then it just got clunky and we're

21:57

just going the free throw line. And Again, it's

21:59

six minutes left. You down five. I don't

22:01

want to see this happen in basketball again. Words

22:03

like this is what the analytics tell us we

22:05

gotta just are found This guy's play the game

22:07

out and haters of the be able say we

22:09

only have to watch last two minutes the game

22:12

those which are the best parts usually of the

22:14

game yeah and they're taking that away from the

22:16

yeah I just I don't know I again they

22:18

can when me back but I I even Thunder

22:20

fans probably were a little disappointing that the you're

22:22

the one seed your have a really good team,

22:24

You have a lot of young awesome players that

22:27

are learning how to play in the playoffs and

22:29

then you're doing this. Bullshit was six minutes

22:31

left. We also had shut Up Easy

22:33

Washington who's like the best player ever.

22:35

Twenty seven points. So this was the

22:38

first time that Kyrie and Lugar have

22:40

played together on the Mavs. And.

22:42

One of those two is not the leading

22:44

scorer in the same. yeah, he's been credible

22:46

easy. I think everyone greater that an F

22:48

trade when you get free from the Hornets,

22:50

but he's been awesome And then Kyrie in

22:52

one on one situations. The, and the game.

22:55

I. I. Don't know who else. I.

22:57

Mean, maybe you'd see yolk? It's one am want

22:59

one on one situation. But like. He's.

23:02

Gotta be top three in terms of you

23:04

need a basket. Just. Like carried. do

23:06

whatever is going to do and you'll get I

23:08

think it yeah don't know. see be number one

23:10

of a definite be number one in terms of

23:12

guy that I like to watch via a basketball

23:14

right on his hands, one on one of the

23:16

and games and they rush point isn't even as

23:18

he just so goes nobody's really good at and

23:20

ah I know that Steph curry diverse few times

23:23

but I think carries better the pretending to pick

23:25

up your dribble move the up to end you

23:27

have to watch Koreans outer yes the watchman slow

23:29

mo to watch every time they does. it's because

23:31

he does like. Nine. Different moves

23:33

every time you think he's doing one move right, but

23:35

he'll pick that hand up and put it next to

23:38

the ball. And take the way so

23:40

fast that it just gets a defender to

23:42

just make one small move hesitate for a

23:44

second Come up to try to blog Assad

23:46

are good and his wife and then his

23:48

past you but after that it's so smooth

23:50

and so fun to watch. yeah especially when

23:52

he he liked as three between the legs

23:54

to behind the back spin move. Slower.

23:56

And the lane with his left hand yes,

23:58

it's poets is it's incredible. Yeah I saw

24:00

I'm I'm I'm gonna let the thunder maybe

24:02

when me back as they are some so

24:04

young and so fun to watch with that.

24:07

Pissed me off. Your. The one

24:09

seat you're good basketball team you're really

24:11

good basketball. they thought they had something

24:13

I just ah it's is ruins the

24:15

slow the game and. And. Derek

24:17

Lively prove that he was. He was up for

24:19

his what's his free throw percentage normally as find

24:22

it. He. Said his eight for twelve, right?

24:24

But you know it's some A. you know it's

24:26

Sumner. I bet you the guys on the thunder

24:28

like this is bullshit. We don't want to do

24:30

that. Yeah, the it's hundred. There's a nerd. It's

24:32

a nerd. We haven't. We have a nerd in

24:34

the building in Oklahoma City right? And he's in.

24:36

He's got too much power so we got figure

24:38

out how to get this nerds. or year. Ah

24:41

or it's Earth lively. And. It is seeking

24:43

a lot for me to defend. Do player like this?

24:45

Ah. He's fifty percent. Fifty.

24:48

Point: Six percent in his career from free

24:50

throw. But. He is also

24:52

again watching him, especially on the defensive and

24:54

he's a fun player. Yeah, The. I'm

24:56

in the mavs or did they look

24:58

good? They look good, not scared their

25:01

number four on and scared of teams

25:03

now. Ah ok thank was I saw

25:05

right. Your. Game. This. Almost

25:07

feels like. She's. And

25:09

Tatum listen to everyone and either way we weren't the

25:11

only ones have. I think actually we were probably the

25:14

nicest. Of the things that were said

25:16

about Jason Tatum deserve, a lot of

25:18

people are like he's just flat out

25:20

not the guy hitters. ah what if

25:22

you remember Our answer to the question

25:24

was yeah. And. He was awesome

25:26

on Saturday night. Days. Points to

25:28

progressive wasn't hit, really hit mysteries but still

25:31

job in the hoop. got thirty point the

25:33

hard way. Also, he's an incredible rebounder Young

25:35

enough credit for that and they need that

25:37

with. Chris. Starts out it

25:39

is incredible playmaker. He gets double triple teamed

25:42

every time. He is good at getting the

25:44

get the rock to his teammates grades. Your

25:46

holiday game for some of the like you

25:48

really like shown a big in the play

25:50

offs. And you can def we

25:52

notice how different the deep as without pausing is

25:54

like getting him back the other any them back

25:56

fully healthy but he said be back next game

25:58

right? Yeah. We're at this. several

26:01

Yeah, they should say until next series like it's

26:03

not oh, it's yeah It's necessary, but but you

26:06

know in the beginning of the game when Horford's the biggest

26:08

guy in the lineup It's it's just a it's a

26:10

different defense, but so what if the Cavs win the

26:12

next one at that point Are you like get get

26:15

Chris stops back? Yeah, you might you might start having

26:17

those conversations You might start having

26:19

those conversations if he's fully healthy you might

26:23

The proverbial you you we yes Okay,

26:26

I have a question for you about the Celtics are

26:29

the Celtics Going

26:32

to go an entire play let's say they go

26:34

to the finals I think they'll be in

26:36

the finals We don't know what's gonna happen the finals But

26:39

will they be the first team to ever

26:41

get to finals without playing a single memorable

26:43

playoff game? It's

26:46

crazy every game is either they kick the shit out

26:48

of the opponent on their two losses are they got

26:50

the chick kicked Out of them. They haven't played in

26:52

one Like big

26:54

fourth quarter moment yet, and that's

26:56

not a knock on them because they're really really

26:59

good They I saw us that they had a

27:01

20-point lead in 52 percent of

27:03

their games this year So it's not like

27:05

it's not their fault that they're just

27:07

better than everyone Especially

27:09

in the East, but isn't it crazy like

27:11

they haven't had I know you you're watching it differently

27:14

But now that's every single game they've played so

27:17

far in the playoffs have just been Laffers one

27:19

way or the other and you know I mean

27:21

it's only two losses, but that's just what

27:23

it's been Yeah, I feel like there's probably

27:25

like a Warriors Maybe the war

27:27

yeah, but even the losses were probably closer cuz

27:29

that's that's been the two weird. Yeah lost weird,

27:31

right? Oh, it's right. It's not even nominated every

27:34

other game right so pick it I have a

27:36

question for you Yeah, if you were a Celtics

27:38

fan actually max. I have a question for you

27:40

have bought Massachusetts max

27:43

As a Celtics fan Would you be concerned at

27:45

all going into the finals if you haven't played

27:47

any close games because you don't know how to

27:49

win close games No

27:52

You want me to apologize for beating the shit

27:54

out of teams or getting the shit kicked out

27:56

of you by teams That's fine. Do you want

27:58

me to apologize for winning? People lose

28:00

games, teams lose games. I'll

28:04

let the West go battle it out game by

28:06

game. We just keep winning over here in Boston.

28:09

Max is really fucking good at being

28:11

in Boston. Yeah, he's really good. Yeah,

28:15

no, it's not even a knock on the Celtics.

28:19

They just haven't... Like, there's been... The

28:21

Knicks' Sixers series was

28:23

like... Every single game was

28:25

a war. Even the Knicks' Pacers obviously

28:27

today wasn't. But there's been some memorable

28:29

games in these playoffs. And Celtics

28:31

have just not been part of any of them. Because they're just

28:33

so much better. They're so much better, right? Right. It's

28:36

not their fault. And the two losses are weird. Two

28:38

losses where they got the shit kicked out of them. So

28:41

you think that... Would you be... I

28:43

guess it doesn't matter. But

28:45

it's weird to think they could get to the... Oh, I

28:47

don't think... Yeah, it doesn't matter at all. Right. At

28:50

all. It doesn't matter. And they'll smoke

28:53

whoever wins the Knicks' Pacers. Would you rather

28:55

beat the Knicks or the Pacers? The Knicks.

28:58

The Knicks. Absolutely the Knicks. Are you saying

29:00

that because the Knicks have like two people

29:02

left? No, I just love beating New York,

29:04

little brother. Who? All

29:06

Pacers, though, a little revenge for the... In-season?

29:10

In-season tournaments. Yeah. We could

29:12

forget. But if you played the

29:14

Knicks, then you'd also get to do the double duty

29:16

of after you beat them, be like, here come the

29:18

excuses. You're like, you're already doing that

29:20

ahead of time. Where it's like, I want to play the Knicks because

29:22

they will make excuses for not having

29:25

any players. Either way, that's a legitimate excuse,

29:27

I think, if you're the Knicks. If

29:30

all of your players are injured, but then you get

29:32

to... You just have a... It's like a car that

29:34

he just doesn't change the oil. Like you just roll

29:36

the tires out and he's rolling on the rims and

29:38

he's like, all right, let's just keep going. I got

29:40

another 20 miles on this thing. He wanted to keep

29:42

his starters in the fourth quarter, too. He felt like

29:45

it tonight. Like

29:47

as long as I've known Big Cat

29:49

was, you know, when the Tibbs was the Bulls

29:51

coach and he's always said it, but

29:54

he just runs people out. So this is

29:56

the discussion now with the Knicks. I

30:00

don't know if you guys saw, but I weighed in in the

30:02

fact that it's just, you can look

30:04

at this however you want to look at

30:06

it because Tibbs does run his guys very

30:09

hard. I know that no

30:11

Knicks I think were in the top 10 in

30:13

minutes played this season, so he

30:16

maybe has figured it out a little bit. But

30:20

they're gassed right now and they're gassed because

30:22

they have injuries, so it's like a chicken

30:24

and an egg. I don't think that he

30:26

specifically has caused this

30:29

situation that the Knicks are in

30:31

where it's like Julius Randall hurt

30:33

his shoulder on a like Jaime

30:35

Jakes play which was weird.

30:38

OG's always hurt and he was traded halfway through the

30:40

season so he didn't even get the full Tibbs treatment.

30:44

Brunson you could say he was like 14th

30:46

in minutes and he has, he's clearly not

30:48

100%. He doesn't seem

30:50

like he has the same burst in the last couple

30:52

of games, but you have to play him. You

30:54

have to play him and then Josh Hart, yeah

30:57

he's been played to death and

30:59

he looks gassed, but again he

31:01

has no one else to play. So in a weird

31:03

way like yes Tibbs does do

31:05

that. He plays his guys really hard and he

31:07

always is playing like in the middle of February

31:10

he's like you guys got to go as hard

31:12

as possible, but I think this one

31:14

situation like it's kind of just fluke injuries and I

31:16

don't I don't know if you can blame him 100%

31:18

for this. Yeah if it's a

31:20

shoulder you can't like that stuff happens people

31:22

get hurt. I think Bogdan had a

31:25

wrist already when he showed up so I don't

31:27

know which I get and then Mitchell Robinson is

31:29

kind of injury prone too so I don't know.

31:32

He does, it's crazy not to

31:34

say like Nick's fans who would say

31:36

like Tibbs is completely blameless in all

31:38

of this, that's nuts. He

31:40

does he does play his guys hard.

31:43

I don't think that he caused these injuries this

31:45

time. It was the Warriors right where they had

31:47

all those injuries in the NBA Finals that one

31:49

year. Yeah. They

31:52

were playing in the NBA. Yeah, they were playing in the

31:54

NBA. Yeah, like just nobody was like Steve Kerr treats his

31:56

guys like shit. Yeah, it's like those guys played a shitload

31:58

of extra games every single year. and their summer didn't start

32:00

for like an extra three months because they went to the

32:02

finals it sucks to watch the Knicks run out

32:05

of gas I

32:07

don't know maybe the Mecca is the

32:09

great equalizer because it does feel Was

32:12

that your phone still open? Sorry? No? Yeah, I'm

32:15

bad I did I just think it's

32:17

funny that we have to pull up a random porn video

32:19

and he went straight to Brazilian fart porn Yeah, we

32:22

also should give credit to the Pacers

32:24

because the Pacers played great. I mean

32:26

that that three on

32:28

Friday night from Nemheart Was

32:32

incredible. Yeah, that was a total

32:34

don't shoot. Don't shoot. Don't shoot. Holy fuck He

32:36

shot it and it went in and the first

32:38

quarter that first quarter You're right probably doesn't happen

32:40

at the Mecca right, but it happened it

32:43

happened today and and TJ McConnell by the way

32:45

Oh so fun to watch play him I've or

32:47

I got it. I got a quote from I

32:50

think it's from heart He said TJ McConnell

32:52

is annoying little shit. Love

32:54

it. But he said it in like an endearing

32:56

way He's like I think that's how people talk

32:58

about me, too Yeah, I love watching this guy

33:01

play but it's not a t-shirt with his face

33:03

annoying annoying little shit He uh,

33:06

it does feel like the Pacers are the

33:08

worst team right now for the Knicks to

33:10

just lose everyone because they push the pace

33:12

They're young and they do have depth. Mm-hmm

33:14

And so it's I mean they they deserve

33:16

a lot cuz they could not miss today

33:19

and they held serve at home I don't they've

33:21

lost a home playoff game. So I they're

33:23

fun to watch I mean, they're young and they're

33:26

fun like they score they score they score again.

33:28

They're playing good defense Yeah, I don't know how

33:30

much of that is the Knicks just not having

33:32

anybody to play basketball But

33:34

they don't they traditionally don't play

33:36

defense now They're playing a little and I think

33:38

that Jalen Brunson is one of

33:40

those guys that will just never admit

33:42

that he's hurt even though he's clearly

33:44

hurt Yeah, and it's he even said

33:46

after the game He

33:49

asked if he has less burst and he said

33:51

I'm fine I'm fine when

33:53

You got to say I'm fine twice. You're just

33:55

I'm fine dog. Yeah in the burning house. This

33:58

is fine Yeah, buddy, Jim brother will never. Or

34:00

make an excuse. he just he kept on saying that is

34:02

like. Why? Would I say that

34:04

we're short handed? We just last year who

34:06

really lost they were actually not. The next

34:08

was Villanova yeah filling up to bat outta

34:11

that other guys? Yeah.is even. Chanda was incredible

34:13

on Friday night. Name of

34:15

Do It Lately they look tired to very

34:17

very tired. And. That is partially

34:19

tibbs, but again, I don't think the injuries

34:21

were like. Oh you point all

34:23

them in in Mt will bring up like Derek Roy

34:25

going to punch in those replies on saying Derrick Rose

34:28

is gonna get into he should have been in a

34:30

game that he got injured. The. First a

34:32

cel injury. Derrick. Rose's gonna get

34:34

like his body was not able to handle the

34:36

Mbs like eat. Smaller guy playing he

34:38

are evil injuries before he got the M

34:41

B A Like it sucks. It sucks that

34:43

it didn't happen that way. but I don't

34:45

think Tibbs was the reason why Derrick rose

34:47

by at injured counterpoint to fund narrative voice

34:49

should have been in a game. That's about

34:51

it was part it was against the Sixers

34:53

Now first round matchup and he was in

34:55

the game where up like twenty and it

34:57

was like why are you in the game

34:59

but if you ask me if he wasn't

35:01

in the game that specific time would Derrick

35:03

Rose's never tears a cel I would probably

35:05

say that's a far fetched. My. Dream

35:08

the you have to dig into the numbers. There's

35:10

deadly some loophole by Do Like Hank simplifying it

35:12

down to like it's a car and he's not

35:14

change the oil. Yeah, No. You he

35:17

coaches heart. I'd rather have him as my coach

35:19

the not. He's a fucking great coach and he

35:21

always has teams over achieving. With.

35:23

With guys like that shouldn't be doing what

35:25

they're doing and that's kind of the story.

35:27

This next season they've been and only thing

35:30

I'll say to Knicks fans I don't like

35:32

is them using Julius Randle as I give

35:34

me a Julius Randle The fucking. Killed

35:36

that guy last year and he sucks but they

35:38

like member they ripped down his poster and they

35:41

were like fuck him get him out here. He

35:43

sucked in the playoffs yet his editors are bad

35:45

say we'd I don't think they're bad fans but

35:47

you can't say like all but if we had

35:50

Julius Randle after last year when you like get

35:52

him off our team. To. fake fans

35:54

know they're not they're not fake since

35:56

it when one i am the they

35:58

are maxi they're not Big fans, I think

36:00

Nick's fans are some of the best fans. Max, you think

36:02

that this is like a badge of honor for the Sixers?

36:05

Like you beat the Knicks up so bad that they're not

36:07

even able to get to a next series? Well,

36:09

you hurt Mitchell. You beat hurt Mitchell. I mean, he's

36:11

being a little bitch back here. He was like, oh,

36:13

Julius Randle was hurt last year. So that's why. Oh,

36:16

he was playing the entire playoffs last year. But

36:18

you hated him. No, but nobody knew that he

36:20

was hurt. He was playing hurt. And then everybody's

36:22

like, oh, that's our guy. Okay,

36:25

fine. That's their favorite. Did

36:27

they put the poster back up? Yeah, no, Julius Randle's

36:29

fun. Julius Randle fucking blows.

36:32

We eat and beat the Lord. Oh,

36:35

but we're giving excuses to people who

36:37

are playing hurt. We're

36:41

not giving excuses. I love this. We're saying

36:43

that people found out that he was hurt.

36:45

Okay, that's fair. That's fair. That's a fair

36:47

response. Nobody knew he was hurt. And

36:49

they'd like to tell everybody that he's hurt. That's

36:51

true. I love Max and Memes going, this is

36:53

what to expect on April Fool's Day and part

36:55

of my take next year. Yeah. Max and Memes

36:57

podcast. Memes, you do realize from

37:00

the outside looking in, it's like

37:03

no fanbase was meaner than they were

37:05

to Julius Randle last year. And

37:07

then to be like, well, if we had Julius Randle. Yeah,

37:09

no, everybody was mean. Very mean.

37:12

And then they found out that he was hurt. And

37:14

they were like, uh. Did anyone issue like a my

37:16

bad? Full

37:18

page ad maybe. Yeah. Was there like

37:21

a whoops? Sorry. It's just next season.

37:23

Act like it didn't happen. You

37:25

think he forgets that that happened? No, definitely not. But

37:27

there's some dirt on it. Like

37:30

his like wife watching them ripped out

37:32

his statue or poster. Somebody

37:35

there should be one guy. Spike Lee should apologize

37:37

to him. Yeah, we need someone to apologize just

37:40

so that everyone else can move on. I

37:44

could guarantee you he has not moved on. No, he's

37:46

probably faking this playoffs so that

37:48

he doesn't give you little shits anymore.

37:50

Joy in your life. True. Memes.

37:56

No, he was doing so good before he got hurt too.

37:58

Yeah, because he wanted to break. He was but then

38:00

you want to give you playoffs you want to give you

38:03

all the hope because you treat him so badly last year

38:05

No, he's fine. He loves New York We

38:11

got I don't know there's gonna be

38:13

I mean Hank calling Nick's fans fake fans now

38:15

They're say what you want

38:17

about Nick fans, but they are they're legit fans

38:19

They don't abandon the team and years of sadness

38:21

the Mecca still sells out when they sucked. I

38:23

think Hank's just looking at Rico

38:25

and just being like that all Nick's fans He's

38:28

a fan of himself no I Rico's

38:30

a real next man. That's the only one

38:33

but there's there's plenty of people that just

38:35

hop on Oh, we're in the playoffs every

38:37

every team that does well has a bandwagon.

38:40

That's good. That's loud horse. I Don't

38:43

know. I think I think it's more than I've been

38:45

to the Mecca for Celtics games when the Knicks sucked

38:47

And it was like 50 percent Celtics fans. I

38:50

don't know I think there's I think Nick

38:52

I think New York is like a true

38:55

true basketball city So when they're like good

38:57

you you obviously see it more boisterous, but

38:59

like those are those are real basketball fans

39:03

Yeah, maybe it's not real Nick fans got it. I

39:06

love it. We're gonna get I hope we it's

39:08

probably not gonna happen But I want Nick Celtics

39:10

just to see how much Hank pisses

39:12

off Good it's

39:14

what he does best get it going Okay

39:19

Should we talk some hockey? Hank

39:23

The Bruins have just gotten beat up with

39:26

some cheap shots a lot of cheap

39:29

Star players that one that it's all isn't doing

39:31

anything wait, but we got to give credit to

39:33

who's the guy who cheap sharded No, no, of

39:35

course. I will not say that it no no

39:37

here's why I got to give him credit it

39:40

took like 17 slow-mo

39:44

Like alternate angle shots for people to fully see

39:46

the fact that he punched March on he did

39:48

a really good job It was a great cheap

39:50

shot. Yeah to the point I we had to

39:52

wait for the alternate angle to come out which

39:54

was I think the next day Yeah, we didn't

39:57

get the actual angle of him throwing the punch

39:59

until later always was the glove kind

40:01

of emerging from behind his body. So

40:03

if he fooled high definition like 75

40:06

inch plasma TVs, he definitely fooled the

40:08

refs that were watching that happen in

40:10

real time. So he got

40:12

away with it. He definitely punched him

40:14

in the face. Now there were a

40:16

lot of people that were throwing around

40:18

retaliatory clips, response clips online to all

40:20

the Bruins fans that were complaining that

40:22

showed Marcheon punching people in the

40:24

face with a gloved hand from earlier in

40:26

the series. So it's like I think

40:28

Marcheon would probably do something like this too, but he was

40:31

just on there was also another hit that he had at

40:33

the end of the game where Marcheon

40:35

dove head first into somebody else's

40:37

head and they made head

40:39

to head contact, which also might have been the

40:42

reason why it was out today with a concussion.

40:44

So might not have been from that cheap shot,

40:46

although he was definitely concussed, but they brought him

40:48

back in the game afterwards. Yeah,

40:51

absolute cheap shot. And then I

40:54

mean, you have to admit, I agree with the cheap

40:56

shot. He sucker punched

40:58

him, but in terms of cheap

41:00

shots, he did such a good job

41:02

of hiding the sucker punch that we weren't able

41:04

to figure it out for a while. I don't

41:07

know. I, something's fishy with the NHL and this

41:09

Panthers team. I can't, I can't put my finger

41:11

on it. I don't understand why, but

41:13

that happened. And it's like, you know, why does it take the

41:15

next day for the camera angle to come out? Because

41:17

it existed. They could have, they probably had it. Toronto probably

41:20

had it in real time. They didn't

41:22

suspend them, which is crazy. And

41:24

then today, same guy cross

41:27

checked Charlie Coyle into Swaeeman. And

41:29

so he couldn't, you know, block

41:31

the shot and then hit a goal in clear

41:34

as day goalie interference. I'm not, you

41:36

know, a hockey head, but they reviewed

41:38

it. He cross checked a guy into

41:41

the goalie, which interfered from the

41:44

goalie being able to save the goal and

41:46

they didn't call it. And

41:48

then the Bruins challenged it, lost, lost the

41:50

challenge. So they came back on a power play

41:52

and it was like the Bruins didn't have a

41:55

shot for the next seven minutes. It felt like

41:57

I didn't watch the game on Friday night. I

41:59

just saw a bunch of people tweeting from our

42:02

own company being like why is the

42:04

crowd so silent? I

42:08

thought it was one or two tweets. I mean it's

42:10

it's it's the walls of a hockey game. Bad sports

42:12

now? I was just asking. I again I did not watch

42:14

the game so I have no idea. It was rocking.

42:16

It was fake fans. It was it was rocking today.

42:18

Yeah and the playoffs they get a bunch of fake

42:20

fans bandwagoners. Yeah come in don't know when to cheer you

42:22

don't see them throughout the regular season. Yeah

42:25

I'm a fake Bruins fan. I don't I don't

42:27

I have no problem saying that but the Bruins

42:29

the the people that are fans of the

42:31

Bruins and go to the games are are die hard.

42:33

So probably more than any other sport in Boston

42:35

like there's you know the percentage

42:37

of. That usually is the case for

42:39

hockey. Fake fans versus diehards and like

42:41

the Bruins true Bruins fans are eat

42:44

live breathe die. Would you say that that hit

42:46

was would you say it's a dirty play? The

42:50

sucker punch? Yeah yeah.

42:52

That's interesting because your own coach said that it

42:54

wasn't dirty. Oh he said it was outside the

42:56

lines but it wasn't dirty. Outside

42:58

the line. Yeah but not dirty. Not dirty. I

43:01

don't wait so I don't know what the difference

43:03

is. So there's inside the lines play. Yeah it's

43:05

normal hockey play. Normal hockey play. Good hockey play

43:07

is what they say. There's outside the lines. Then

43:11

there's dirty. Then there's dirty afterwards and

43:13

then is there anything after that? Scumbag?

43:15

I think after that maybe scumbag move.

43:17

Dangerous. Cheap shot. Assault. Uh yeah a

43:19

horrifying act of violence. Yeah. Would be

43:22

next up after that. So oh wow

43:25

so this is kind of a loophole like this is

43:27

the new this is a new money ball for hockey.

43:29

We need to build a hockey team that

43:31

knows how to play outside the lines but never

43:33

dirty. But not dirty. Yeah just up to that

43:36

line. Wow. You want to go right up to

43:38

the line of playing outside the line. Yeah. Does

43:41

that make sense? We should actually do

43:44

some research on this and we should try

43:46

some outside the lines plays on Hank. But

43:48

never get dirty. Not dirty. We

43:51

won't get dirty. And just see what happens.

43:53

Yeah see what happens. Oh yeah. So yeah

43:55

you say you say see what happens which

43:57

is essentially the Bruins response after that alleged

43:59

cheap shot. That was outside the lines and

44:02

then nothing really happened. No one really took

44:04

a run at him There

44:07

was there's some scuffling I mean what are you supposed to

44:09

do you're down in the series you like you can't just

44:11

be giving up penalty miss They did take a couple penalties

44:13

that were clearly just like Rage

44:15

hits essentially. Yeah, I that one period

44:17

rocked I love pat maroon by

44:20

the way, but but they're they're down in the series They

44:22

got a scratch and claw for everything they get the NHL

44:24

is trying to rig a Panthers

44:26

Rangers Eastern Conference finals They much have

44:28

that than Bruins Rangers. Yeah, it's it's

44:31

sad. What is that? What are they

44:33

rigging that for? Anti

44:36

I'm trying to figure They

44:39

wanted hurricanes Panthers. No,

44:41

they want they want Panthers Rangers.

44:43

Okay, but the Hurricanes won this

44:45

weekend So maybe they want

44:47

hurricanes Panthers. I gotta get sales. Yeah, they want

44:50

her Kim traditional hockey towns, right? Raleigh

44:52

now Speaking of that series

44:54

Rangers fans legit the Mecca the red the Rangers

44:57

teams are Me

44:59

often memes we you

45:01

were you were out on a bachelor party this weekend

45:04

so you were not here on Thursday night, but one

45:07

underrated part of This

45:09

show is memes hatred for Rangers fans

45:11

is actually maybe stronger than his love

45:14

for any of his own teams So,

45:17

where are you right now because they

45:19

look awesome. I know they lost in overtime Was

45:22

it overtime? Yeah overtime on Saturday

45:26

Where are you? I'm

45:29

I'm at the point the I said the

45:31

hurricanes. It wasn't all the time. I don't think no it was

45:33

yeah They

45:36

won power play goal with like three minutes left. Yes.

45:38

I was watching I forgot it Yeah,

45:40

the Rangers are really good. But the

45:42

Hurricanes goalie is playing absolutely dogshit this

45:44

entire series So it's like one of

45:46

those, you know, I Don't

45:49

think the Rangers are definitely good. I don't think they're

45:51

so you're not worried I'll

45:54

be worried if it's like the Rangers are

45:56

very good To owe against

45:58

the Panthers next series That's

46:01

worry worry level maximum and

46:04

and what if the whole report the home ice advantage

46:06

for them those Yeah, what are

46:08

the rate of best left in the play? Yeah,

46:10

what if the well, yeah, especially since the

46:13

Coliseum is gone Wait

46:17

say that again You heard what I said

46:21

Hank said the Rangers have the best home

46:23

ice advantage I said especially since the Coliseum's

46:25

gone and you sold out now the Canucks

46:27

the Canucks is probably up there Okay, so

46:29

but you're you what are you gonna do

46:31

if the Rangers win the cup? They're

46:33

not gonna win the cup. Okay, that's I

46:35

want him there At

46:39

the parade I want him there I want

46:41

him in a spot where he's he's basically

46:43

saying to himself there's zero percent chance they

46:45

win a cup and if How

46:48

could you say a team that's up 3-1 in the

46:50

second round has a zero percent chance to win the

46:52

cup? Yeah, what are the best parade if they win?

46:54

Yeah. Yeah, you have to cover that one of the

46:56

best goaltenders They've got probably

46:58

their best goaltender ever. Oh,

47:01

I like that sir the pot.

47:03

Okay, wait, so memes Why

47:05

do you hate Rangers fans so much? They're just

47:07

the worst. They're just the same as like Yankee

47:09

fans You know, they just think they're the best of

47:11

all time. They've won one Stanley

47:13

Cup in like the last hundred years and they

47:15

just think they're the fucking shit But they have

47:18

won a Stanley Cup more recently than the Islanders.

47:20

Yeah, who cares one for in a row I

47:22

also love the idea of memes walking past MSG

47:24

and looking at him one night being like this

47:26

is the best place on earth in the next

47:28

night. He walks back He's like I fucking hate

47:30

it I

47:32

mean, it's a basketball Yeah,

47:35

it's a Billy Joel Stadium. Yeah. Yeah, Billy Joel

47:37

Knicks. I Fucking

47:40

hate the Rangers everybody on the bachelor party was a Ranger

47:43

fans. So it was like they every they were just

47:45

all celebrating I was like this sucks Sounds

47:48

like fun. Yeah The

47:50

stars look good and Then now

47:52

the the shocker of the play we're watching it

47:54

with what eight minutes left The

47:57

Oilers look like they might lose this game

48:00

War two There have

48:02

been ten up. He's gonna be pain. Are the

48:04

Canucks a team of destiny so many close goals

48:06

here I don't know would we consider

48:08

them team destiny right now the way biz describes

48:10

him last week last week when he was on

48:12

was like no one expected him

48:14

to be here. They want a very tough division

48:16

and Everyone's

48:19

like nice story, but they're not gonna win it all.

48:21

I think they might be team it. Yes I do

48:23

love and crowd too Yeah, and they the

48:25

the Canucks have one of the scariest propositions in

48:28

all sports Is that if they don't win the

48:30

if they get to the final and don't win

48:32

the cup they'll just burn their whole city down

48:35

That's true done in multiple times. Yeah, they love to

48:37

tear that also I was gonna say if they if

48:39

they don't win the cup then they know that they're

48:41

not gonna get another chance at it for Like 15

48:43

years. Yeah, like Edmonton if they lose in

48:45

a Stanley Cup this year They're

48:47

gonna be like this fucking blows But

48:50

we've got McDavid we'll be back

48:52

good young players if the

48:54

Oilers lose this round that would be a

48:56

big disappointment Yeah, big disappointment. Um,

48:59

yeah, so it looks like the Canucks might

49:01

win this game Well, we'll update it as

49:03

we go along in the show Hank Do

49:05

you think there's any chance that the NHL

49:07

leadership in Toronto is fucking the Bruins because

49:09

you guys beat the Maple Leafs every year?

49:11

in the playoffs Potentially

49:15

look into that I Could

49:18

see that also that were little

49:20

payback couldn't can they just have Toronto beat

49:22

you guys in the playoffs every now and

49:24

again I'm

49:27

trying to help you out. I'm trying to connect

49:29

some dots for you Yeah,

49:32

I mean NHL if they were smart they were

49:34

like the NBA they would they would have had

49:36

a Canadian Stanley Cup final At

49:38

this point. I just want one team. Yeah, they

49:40

wanted like it has like it has to have

49:42

I believe from Canada I'd be the greatest it

49:44

would be the greatest. Yeah, I do not care.

49:46

It's a fun series doesn't matter what

49:49

two teams Yeah, right right now. I don't care

49:51

Who wins but I just it would be nice

49:54

to have a Canadian team in the Stanley Cup

49:56

funds here Yeah, one's the

49:58

last. Oh, I guess the 1990

50:01

no no last in it last in it

50:03

the Canadians right weren't they in the bubble

50:06

Didn't they lose to I

50:08

want to say the bubble I want to say they lost to

50:10

this is gonna test our hockey knowledge means you want to help

50:12

me out here. No Want

50:15

to help me means lightning. I think they lost the

50:17

lightning right in 2021

50:19

was maybe it was the year after

50:21

the bubble Yeah, yeah, we're

50:23

there's a very forgettable one gives the lightning smoked

50:25

and I feel like there were no fans So

50:28

that was also like hockey with no fans might

50:30

be We got over

50:32

football with no fans. Mm-hmm. It's still football,

50:34

but hockey with no fans feel so weird

50:36

Wait, it was the lightning and the Canadians.

50:39

They're both in the East, right? Oh,

50:41

yeah, but wasn't it the wasn't there? Yeah,

50:44

no, but I think they did a weird bubble thing,

50:46

right? Those are two Eastern teams. I know that is

50:50

All right, we got to figure this out cuz they just

50:52

you think they just took away divisions because of I don't

50:54

I can't remember Me and just

50:56

look at it up Stanley Cup finals We

50:59

didn't go here. We need a goal here. This

51:02

is bad All right. Here we go

51:04

boys. I'm gonna find this I'm

51:06

gonna find this Yeah,

51:09

someone was something yeah, I remember

51:11

weird they yeah cuz they did the pods

51:13

remember they did the pods Yeah,

51:15

there was that weird system. They had to like

51:18

finish out the yeah Canadian

51:20

shit. Yeah, teams had like a

51:23

different. Yeah. Oh, yeah, because

51:25

they had different COVID restrictions So they had

51:27

to play in their own pods and then

51:29

come. Mm-hmm. That's right. That's a weird. That's

51:31

a that's a Question you'll get

51:34

wrong in trivia god damn that would have

51:36

been so awesome though If they had won

51:38

the bubble championship through the Canadian pod and

51:40

then everybody be like, yeah Canada won it

51:42

But it's really Mickey Mouse. Yeah, and

51:45

then yeah The the Canucks when they burned the

51:47

city down when they lost the Bruins I'm

51:49

looking right now the Senators played the

51:51

ducks in 2007 and

51:54

the Oilers lost to the Hurricanes in 06 Yeah,

51:56

the fucking someone's got a win one

52:00

What's the problem, Hank? Mrs. Ice. Oh,

52:04

Mrs. Ice, I know. I need a goal,

52:06

too. They've had like five... like

52:08

shots that should have been goals. There's 40 shots!

52:11

Mrs. Ice can't lose. Although

52:14

it would not on Mother's Day. Yeah. But it would

52:16

also be perfect. They're meant for each other. Mrs. Ice

52:18

lost on Mother's Day. Oh, by the way, I feel

52:20

like we're getting a goal. We have to. We

52:23

have to. Mrs. Ice. She

52:25

can't lose this. Okay.

52:29

Let's do... Can we get Ernestine off

52:31

the TV? She's

52:33

been staring at her. She's an industry plant. She's

52:35

not real. Put damp lips back up. No,

52:38

these are just more pictures of Ernestine. What are you doing, Max? I

52:43

thought he wanted more. I thought he wanted more.

52:45

Put Sidney Sweeney up. Remember that time you just

52:47

started searching for her? Yeah. I wasn't searching for

52:49

her. I was looking at things that were trending.

52:51

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take max would you do now uh...

54:05

something else people are talking about this is a

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who's back in week also what is it when

54:09

i'm about to be a little somebody's who's back

54:13

no we can talk about it this year who's

54:15

back but max yeah max who were your who's

54:17

back is the sitting up mean that's roaring kitty

54:19

roaring kitty what is that that working

54:21

stop yet the game stop guy oh is

54:25

deep fucking value he's a guy that were

54:27

the red band and i remember the movie

54:29

don't mind us that was a little bit

54:31

yet but we can't twenty twenty one double

54:33

all money and uh... the patriots documentary to

54:35

instances in last like three months where i've

54:37

watched something on t.v. and i'm

54:39

just like taking a break from work for a little

54:41

bit and then day portnoy space come here pops

54:43

up and johnny mansell true

54:45

so yeah he's back online now only some weird

54:47

shit about to go down i want

54:50

in this time yeah which which he told me

54:52

i'm bio about it that there's no context or

54:54

anything it just this mean so

54:56

you know and really knows i'm

54:58

gonna read it yeah i'm

55:01

gonna buy it and then i'm gonna have a retreat

55:03

with the eyeballs i might even start holding it before

55:05

i buy it so this guy is the guy did

55:07

the game stop stuff yeah which i i've never had

55:09

more fomo kazai

55:12

i'm just convinced as a lifelong loser if i

55:15

don't get it like the minute

55:17

it happens on the guy

55:19

who's gonna jump on and then lose everything but

55:21

i sat and watched for weeks

55:24

where just kept on going up with a god damn

55:26

it is that back up i don't

55:28

know is i still have some i

55:30

really i really really want to be in

55:32

on this one really really wanted mail yeah

55:35

so just uh... no it looks like it's

55:37

still down yes okay

55:40

but we're back stocks so i'm putting on

55:42

alerts for rory kitty who's back stonking tells

55:44

what to do do you

55:46

just say what to do and then we all

55:48

is it's like the total chaos he says uh...

55:50

i'd like to stock like kataki likes the stock

55:53

and it's good stock kataki m rory kitty right

55:55

now i'm going to keep mister rory kitty i'd

55:57

like to win twenty thousand Yet.

56:00

Yeah. I'll. Make it up here. Okay,

56:03

we're back. Get him on a show. we got all

56:05

get in the i gotta talk to my guy get

56:07

more information but. They don't just mean

56:09

Jack Max or Greer. Aggressive. Yeah, we're

56:11

We're top guys on it. Top minds

56:13

on it. Ruin Kitty?

56:15

Come on. for my sake, Yeah please. Hatch

56:18

who's your? who's back? Especially

56:20

because Rory. Yeah. When.

56:23

He do. He. Dominated:

56:25

Quail Hollow one The.

56:29

Wells. Fargo Wells Fargo Center Jake the

56:31

great Job Jaguars is on the

56:33

car Max are play well. Forest

56:35

is. Had an Eagle in

56:37

the first home to called it now scream

56:39

moment. Yeah hatching stuff. Jake doing things wrong.

56:41

Maxi for maximum was awesome. The up. Is.

56:44

Great. Ah but Rory

56:47

I feel like he's the king of winning

56:49

chairmanship. Read for major than everyone talks about.

56:51

I'm at a major week. Roars right is

56:53

know when a major and then he I'd

56:55

miss the cut to who's Back Rory schooling

56:57

fooling us about him being back there. Size

57:00

ever saw as as babies the As has

57:02

baby skyscrapers has been congratulate. He has baby.

57:04

read from other so. I'm.

57:07

Pretty sure I'm pretty sure there was a was I

57:09

I I saw two thousand like it's not an at

57:11

it's not out there official but he's on the or

57:13

to use violates. hip of. Know. He's

57:15

he's doing media stuff at Valhalla

57:17

his baby know but out of

57:20

I'm pretty sure it's confirmed. Falling.

57:23

For to China or congratulations when it that

57:25

baby happen. Arabs

57:29

heard the news Saturday afternoons he just

57:31

had a baby can gradually advices nothing

57:33

as let us. Okay so graduation and

57:35

the baby? yeah he's gonna. Is

57:38

what I mean. My. Son turned one

57:40

today as Mother's Day. Sox.

57:43

I have the same thing with my first

57:45

son is ah, two years ago his father's

57:47

day sucks. Skip robbed. Of. Your deck.

57:50

Swagger. Jack. Big. Time by

57:53

baby. By a fucking baby. Shower

57:56

the stinger still hasn't given birth. makes my

57:58

kids did not. My older two. Understand

58:00

the concept, Of the problems would

58:03

not for the portal the.

58:05

Baby can't open presents his and I had

58:07

a good point. Yeah says the I try.

58:09

I sat him on the president. And.

58:11

I try to show him how to like rip

58:13

the wrapping paper. Didn't. Do anything in

58:15

the my other two kids like see we told

58:17

you in the mail but nose pressed his daughters

58:20

like is a strategy that Zeus was a masterclass

58:22

by them. They dominate me on. I've never understood

58:24

that meme with a guy that's like holding out

58:26

his hands to the butterfly and he says is

58:28

this something yeah ones are mount that but it

58:31

seems like that's your daughter with every has this

58:33

show his years as suck it is. You see

58:35

an update on Chuck E Cheese. There are getting

58:37

rid of the original Chuck E Cheese mascot enormous

58:39

older locations. One yeah was scary. one. of

58:42

his adversary brat the as around. yeah

58:44

know, I know. I think the just

58:46

phasing it out maybe sign that. They.

58:49

Want our business. That. I got

58:51

to get there and and do my part

58:53

keeps its way my my old Certainties: ligaments,

58:55

turkey cheese animatronics. Our band will be

58:58

phased out by the end of this year.

59:00

It is scary. You know what

59:02

this means though. This means that they're gonna

59:04

have to get rid of the actual mascot.

59:06

Million. They're going to be hundreds of these

59:09

animatronic are we are buttery mascots parts as we

59:11

get a by when we have to buy one

59:13

we need one of the yeah we need one

59:15

of the Schuchat the Charles entertainment. She's mad I

59:17

will get back in my auction face. I lie

59:19

I had one. briefly. Where I

59:21

was just trying to buy stuff when Dominic's

59:23

an old growth source. Goggles go have been

59:25

sent a pilot carts and stuff. Is

59:28

this we gotta get this if someone wants

59:30

to give this one great, otherwise do the

59:32

old fashioned way more figure out a way

59:34

to? We. Need one in the office? Yeah

59:36

we won. When you walk in the office has

59:38

then. As. Such it is, it's how

59:40

many So you're not a there every fucking time

59:42

we call me with some animals every his success

59:45

a problem solvers the up. Or. It. Was.

59:48

Years. Aurora

59:50

those one of those they're always sunny.

59:52

Skits were for it's zoom out really

59:54

Oh Hank, you're still here Assists worries

59:56

back. He won the Wells Fargo Jake.

59:59

max Scotty Shephler out of

1:00:01

AB. Scotty Shephler

1:00:03

won his last start before PGA

1:00:05

Championship. Rory won his last start. Brooks won

1:00:07

his last start. Oh, the big three. Okay.

1:00:12

Storyline. I bet it. And

1:00:14

where is the PGA? Valhalla. Okay.

1:00:17

Love it. Let's get some

1:00:19

fucking wagers going. I

1:00:23

don't know. What? Let's take them out reloading

1:00:25

on the lift thing, but probably not. Yeah, you

1:00:27

gotta take the baby bump, right? You're

1:00:30

gonna feel like an idiot if you bet against Scotty. Oh

1:00:33

my god. They missed an open netter.

1:00:37

Mrs. Ice. This

1:00:39

is the worst. Mrs. Ice has two

1:00:41

minutes for glory. It's on Mother's Day.

1:00:43

Is Mrs. Ice like watching intently on

1:00:46

a laptop? Has to be. Has to be.

1:00:49

Has to be. She rips her shirt off

1:00:51

afterwards. All right, so who's your pick to

1:00:53

win? Brooks. Okay.

1:00:55

Smart. Good man. We'll

1:00:58

do some golf stuff this week. We'll figure out. We'll

1:01:02

get some. I kind of

1:01:04

like that they got the PGA Championship earlier,

1:01:06

but it always does sneak up on me. Because remember how

1:01:09

it used to be PGA Championship was last and no one

1:01:11

would care. Yeah. Like, fuck it. We're gonna hop the line.

1:01:14

Oh, Mrs. Ice. That's a good

1:01:16

goal. Mrs. Ice. She did it.

1:01:18

Let's go. Mrs. Ice,

1:01:20

what a fucking goal. Oh. All

1:01:24

right. PFT year, who's back? My who's back

1:01:26

of the week is horse racing. Because

1:01:28

it is Preakness Week. Where

1:01:30

we'll have Randy on. We're gonna have Randy

1:01:33

on, Mystic Dank, going for the second leg

1:01:35

of it. And we talked a little bit

1:01:37

about Secretariat on Friday's show. Yeah. And about

1:01:39

how Jason Kelsey thinks, he always retracted his,

1:01:41

this horse did steroids take. And then horse

1:01:44

people went after him. On Friday,

1:01:46

I had a little bit of time on my hands. So

1:01:48

I got on a flight. I was on my way to

1:01:50

New York. And I just thought, let me

1:01:52

just do some research about a good

1:01:54

old Secretariat, or a good friend Secretariat. See if

1:01:56

these claims against him have any merit

1:01:58

to them. Couple

1:02:01

things. Secretary, when

1:02:03

horses, when they're elite, like secretary,

1:02:06

they typically go on to have

1:02:09

fruitful children, right? Yeah. Right?

1:02:11

Their come is worth millions of dollars. Yeah. Secretary

1:02:15

had 663 children. I don't know what you call

1:02:18

them. He had 663 ponies. That's

1:02:21

a fucking lot of child support. Well, no. He's

1:02:23

actually a deadbeat dad. Okay. One

1:02:26

of his daughters was just found like in the

1:02:28

woods somewhere and they had to rescue her and

1:02:30

then now she's still alive. Jesus Christ. And she's

1:02:32

almost dead, but she got rescued and she had

1:02:34

to be adopted by a foster agency because secretary

1:02:36

is such a piece of shit. Anyways,

1:02:39

he had 663 children. Guess

1:02:42

how many of his kids won

1:02:44

a triple crown race out of 663? And

1:02:47

he was probably being bred to the fastest

1:02:50

female horses. I don't want to say zero to ruin this for you. I

1:02:52

want to say five. Zero. Ah. Here we

1:02:54

go. The answer is zero of them. That's

1:02:57

me for not saying zero. Actually, that's

1:02:59

wrong. Oh. One. Okay.

1:03:03

Whoa. The answer is one. Whoa.

1:03:05

I said five. Yeah, you said five. One of them

1:03:07

won two legs, not the Kentucky Derby, and then one

1:03:09

came in second place in the Derby. Got it. So

1:03:12

his genes, not that strong.

1:03:14

Some people will be like, oh, but

1:03:16

down the line, if you follow the

1:03:18

trail enough, then you'll see that his

1:03:20

grandkids, grandkids had won some Derby's. Yeah,

1:03:22

question, big catch. Question. Do the steroids

1:03:24

that Secretariat so clearly took

1:03:27

during his horse racing time, do

1:03:30

they carry in his semen? No.

1:03:32

Oh. They don't. Isn't that interesting?

1:03:35

Interesting. It's very interesting to me.

1:03:37

He also, did you know that Secretariat, his legendary

1:03:39

time at the Preakness, obviously the Belmont was the

1:03:41

one that he won by 16 links. The

1:03:45

race that he won at the Preakness, it's

1:03:48

still, it's a track record, or it's one of

1:03:50

the track records. It was at the time. It

1:03:53

actually got lowered like 40

1:03:55

years after he ran in that race. They

1:03:57

went back like seven years ago. and

1:04:00

in a fast way? There was a secret committee

1:04:03

that met in Maryland, went

1:04:05

back and reduced his time by like a second

1:04:07

and a half. Yeah, they

1:04:09

met in secret and they changed his times

1:04:12

way after the fact, that's bullshit. And this

1:04:14

is also part of what Jason Kelsey was

1:04:16

saying was like, we have gotten faster, bigger,

1:04:19

stronger in everything but not horse racing. Well,

1:04:21

Jason Kelsey was talking about his heart mostly.

1:04:23

Yeah, but I was saying that part too.

1:04:25

I was making the point that every

1:04:28

mile time like mile times

1:04:30

have gradually gotten better over the years. 100

1:04:33

meter dashes, 200 meter dashes. Yeah, he said

1:04:36

something like this too, like every sport has

1:04:38

gotten better except horse racing. So I went

1:04:40

back and I looked at the records and

1:04:42

yes, he still does hold that time at

1:04:45

the Belmont and he holds that time at

1:04:47

the Kentucky Derby and that's an anomaly

1:04:50

in horse racing. Most of them have been improved

1:04:52

upon since then. Not Secretariat's

1:04:54

time, not Secretariat's time. He also, this is the

1:04:56

other thing about Secretariat, I found out that a

1:04:59

bunch of people would buy winning tickets for Secretariat,

1:05:01

like they would bet on them and

1:05:04

then they wouldn't cash in the ticket later because they

1:05:06

wanted to have the ticket. It was a bunch of

1:05:08

Darren Ravelas going out. Ricky Henderson?

1:05:10

Yeah, essentially. Remember when he got paid a

1:05:12

million dollars for his first contract and framed

1:05:15

it? Yep, yep. And he

1:05:17

also lost a bunch of races. This is what we

1:05:19

don't talk about as Secretariat. We only

1:05:21

talk about the wins with this fraud. He lost,

1:05:23

I think, three or four times and they had

1:05:25

an excuse ready after every single loss. One time

1:05:27

they were like, oh, he has an abscess in

1:05:29

his mouth. He had herpes, he had horse herpes

1:05:31

and they blamed his loss on that. One time

1:05:33

he had uncontrollable diarrhea. Another

1:05:36

time they just tried to blame a horse for

1:05:38

bumping him too hard and tried to get that

1:05:40

horse disqualified. So there's a lot

1:05:42

of stuff with Secretariat that the more we look at

1:05:45

it, the more questions

1:05:47

need to be asked about old Secretariat. Okay,

1:05:49

so this is great because we can now

1:05:51

say, I

1:05:53

think we should, as a podcast, we should say

1:05:55

Flightline is our goat. Flightline is

1:05:57

a horse that won the Breeders' Cup. Two

1:06:00

years ago, I was at it. Flightline

1:06:03

was injured as a three year old, so wasn't

1:06:05

able to race in Kentucky Derby. He

1:06:08

raced six times and he just

1:06:10

killed everyone. So he never lost. Never lost. Next

1:06:12

year he lost a bunch. And also it's a

1:06:14

great one because people will be like, when

1:06:17

people ask us who our goat is, the

1:06:21

casual fans will say Secretariat, or maybe

1:06:23

even American Pharaoh, will say someone who

1:06:25

didn't even race in the Triple Crown

1:06:27

Flightline. He was an incredible horse. Or

1:06:30

we could go old school with it

1:06:32

and say Manowar. Yeah. Manowar

1:06:34

is a great horse. And it's sad because

1:06:36

Manowar's, all his accomplishments are overshadowed by a

1:06:39

horse that's having seconds taken off his

1:06:41

time, like 35, 40 years after he

1:06:43

ran the fucking race. Yeah. I

1:06:45

think we can all agree is bullshit. So yeah,

1:06:48

again, I think Jason Kelsey was on the

1:06:50

right track and I can't wait to ask

1:06:52

Randy Moss with his thought about Secretariat being

1:06:54

a fraud work. Yeah, and we'll also, we

1:06:57

gotta use this as a way to get

1:06:59

Jason Kelsey on, who has recently followed Max

1:07:01

Donta. Nice work, Max. Play it cool, play

1:07:03

it cool. Yeah, it's not a big deal. Are

1:07:06

you second guessing every time you send a tweet?

1:07:08

What if Jason sees this? Do you think he

1:07:10

followed because of what we said? No, it was

1:07:12

definitely not a sympathy follow. You think it was

1:07:14

just, he loves your vibe? Yeah.

1:07:17

I will say this, as we all need

1:07:20

to do with this podcast. I'll say this

1:07:22

about Max, guys love Max. Guys do love

1:07:24

Max. Dudes are fucking in love with Max.

1:07:26

And I fucking love dudes. One thing about

1:07:28

Max, guys fucking love him. I fucking love

1:07:30

dude. Yeah. All

1:07:33

right, so I'm going with Flightline. I

1:07:35

watched him at the Breeders' Cup Classic, he

1:07:37

killed everyone, like nine lengths. Yeah, Flightline's a

1:07:39

good one. And that's the best horses in

1:07:42

the world. Man of war though. All right,

1:07:44

well we'll ask Randy. Okay. Yeah. We'll

1:07:47

say, who's your goat? I just like picking a horse

1:07:49

that didn't race in the Triple Crowns, because everyone's like,

1:07:51

who's Flightline? Dude, you don't know. You

1:07:53

don't know, kidding me? You don't know a horse. Selfishly, I

1:07:55

saw him in person and I was wowed. Okay,

1:07:59

I like this. It's gonna be great to have Randy on

1:08:01

yeah, and we should use this to

1:08:03

try to get Jason Kelsey on Yep, and like

1:08:05

no podcast is defending you more than this No

1:08:07

Like if the more you look into Secretariat the

1:08:09

more it stinks to high heaven Also at the

1:08:11

time when he was winning all these races people

1:08:14

were writing about what a welcome escape

1:08:16

this was Yeah, abstract literally in Sports

1:08:18

Illustrated, which was a good magazine at

1:08:20

the time said people are

1:08:22

enthralled And we're so

1:08:24

happy with Secretariat because he's distracting

1:08:26

us from the Vietnam War. Yeah

1:08:28

and Watergate Helen Keller

1:08:30

situation. Yeah, was Secretariat even real

1:08:33

hmm wait Secretariat was

1:08:35

mute No,

1:08:38

there's yeah super who it's superhuman super

1:08:40

larger than life. Yeah the This

1:08:42

would be great story arc if we got Jason

1:08:45

Kelsey we did an investigation with him Yeah, and

1:08:47

we end up having to go to a farm

1:08:49

and watch horses fuck and so we're

1:08:51

sitting there watching P

1:08:53

and V. Yeah. Yeah with

1:08:55

a Kelsey. That'll be really nice. That'd be nice Let's

1:08:57

just get let's get this to finish his story. Okay,

1:08:59

that's great. Who's back. All right. My

1:09:01

who's back is a simple one It's

1:09:04

the Detroit Pistons picking fifth in the draft.

1:09:06

Yeah, so we had the lottery on Sunday

1:09:10

weird time further. No, I think I it

1:09:12

was a weird time They use usually used

1:09:14

to do it like on a Tuesday night

1:09:16

at halftime of one of the games I

1:09:19

think maybe because this draft doesn't really have

1:09:21

anyone of note Although

1:09:24

I was talking to someone

1:09:27

they said that this draft doesn't have like obviously

1:09:29

a weapon Yama or a Zion Williamson But they're

1:09:31

like there's some really good players It's just you're

1:09:34

basically taking a guess one through 14 Like

1:09:37

one of one or two of these guys gonna end

1:09:39

up being credible But if they could be the tenth

1:09:41

pick not the first it feels like the safe bets

1:09:43

are guys like Clinging yeah

1:09:45

is a safe bet. So I'm working out and don't know

1:09:47

if you're working out in this office yesterday I don't know

1:09:49

if he's gonna be a superstar, but he's probably gonna be

1:09:51

a good NBA player And then that's

1:09:54

pretty much the safest pick. Yeah, I Duke

1:09:57

the guard shit is a Yeah,

1:10:02

but the Pistons I feel bad for

1:10:04

Pistons fans the Detroit

1:10:06

Pistons Now this draft is

1:10:08

a weird draft Like I said, like we

1:10:10

said, there's not a surefire like franchise player

1:10:12

which makes it even funnier that the Hawks

1:10:14

won it That's very Atlanta sports to have

1:10:16

a 3% chance to win this draft and

1:10:18

they did like you used all your luck

1:10:20

on this draft But

1:10:23

the Pistons two years ago the Pistons won 23

1:10:26

games. They were third worst in the league They

1:10:28

got the fifth pick Last year

1:10:31

the Pistons won 17 games Worst

1:10:34

in the league fifth pick this

1:10:36

year. They won 14 games worse than

1:10:38

the league fifth pick. That's insane Yeah, it's

1:10:40

crazy. That seems like a sick joke I

1:10:43

feel bad But again, like

1:10:45

you said this draft is kind of a crap shoot

1:10:47

you could get a good player you might end up

1:10:49

getting it Yeah, one of the ones that develops into

1:10:51

being a great player But the fact that this happened

1:10:53

again, just I mean you should try

1:10:56

winning more games Yes, I went to Morgan

1:10:58

also in DC sports. This is the third team that

1:11:00

has the second overall pick Yeah, I saw that I

1:11:02

was I was rooting for you to get the first

1:11:04

pick. Yeah me too Well, I last year it was

1:11:06

like at the end it became a coin flip between

1:11:09

us and the Spurs because the way the numbers took

1:11:11

Out that would have been

1:11:13

the nice one to get but we've taken two

1:11:15

LSU players and base we took one baseball and

1:11:17

then Jane Daniels Obviously in football. I don't think

1:11:19

there's anyone from LSU that's projected to go that

1:11:21

high. Well, fuck it We'll just do it anyways,

1:11:23

but by the way talking baseball Paul Skeens did

1:11:26

make his debut Against my

1:11:28

Cubs. He was I feel like he had

1:11:30

the perfect Awesome

1:11:32

prospect debut where he pitched I think

1:11:34

it was like four innings three earned

1:11:36

runs and seven strikeouts That's

1:11:38

I feel like that's what that that means he's gonna

1:11:40

be really good Yeah, the first two batters you were

1:11:43

like, oh my god Yeah, it's gonna be the best

1:11:45

pitcher ever played and and then it's like alright Well,

1:11:47

he's gonna have to learn how to you know pitch

1:11:49

He's on a they're on a

1:11:51

load management But also like he's gonna have to

1:11:53

learn how to be craftier. But holy shit. Can

1:11:56

he pitch? Are you saying that the the Wizards

1:11:58

should draft Livy done? Yes Yeah,

1:12:00

that would fit. She's a reporter did

1:12:02

say that Although Paul

1:12:05

Skeens only lasted four innings. We've done

1:12:07

whole game. Oh, she's not the whole

1:12:09

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1:12:11

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1:12:13

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1:14:15

I'm using my phone and I'm

1:14:17

watching games. I'm

1:14:19

trying to navigate both. Just put it on

1:14:21

the coffee table. Just rest

1:14:23

it up against something on the coffee table. You probably

1:14:25

got to- You might see my balls because I'm wearing

1:14:27

some really short shorts. Oh, there we go. This is

1:14:29

perfect. All right,

1:14:31

so Jules is on. We should have had you

1:14:34

on right after the roast. Obviously, you were partying

1:14:36

after the roast, but we still wanted to have

1:14:38

you on. We also needed to have you on

1:14:40

because we need some tips on podcasting because you

1:14:43

momentarily for a day took over the one

1:14:45

spot and made everyone aware of it. So

1:14:47

congrats on that. Thank you. Thank

1:14:49

you guys. You know, I just- Just

1:14:52

trying to follow in the founding fathers that helped

1:14:54

me put me in this situation. You guys. Grab

1:14:58

your on your show and we're going to

1:15:00

take that data and we're going to try

1:15:02

to learn from it. Make our show

1:15:04

completely better every single day. It's

1:15:07

just a starting point. It's actually

1:15:09

funny because I remember like three or four years

1:15:11

ago, you're like, hey, can we get your entire

1:15:13

subscribers list and we gave it to you? Now

1:15:16

it all makes sense that you just did it that way.

1:15:18

No, but games, his name's awesome. It's

1:15:21

actually incredible what you've grown it into because

1:15:23

I watch it all the time. Your

1:15:25

Ernie Adams interview was incredible and it feels

1:15:27

like it's not, I'm going to give

1:15:29

you, I'm going to give you a genuine compliment. It's

1:15:32

hard. I think right now we've gotten

1:15:34

very lucky because we started a podcast before everyone had

1:15:36

a podcast. It's hard to hop into

1:15:38

the podcast game right now and be unique and

1:15:41

you are, you've done that and that that's a credit to

1:15:43

you. I appreciate that.

1:15:45

That means a lot really coming from you guys.

1:15:47

Yeah. You know, it's been fun. It's,

1:15:50

I didn't, you know, I, we just did this thing. I

1:15:52

wasn't, we weren't trying to do anything. But

1:15:54

it's just, it's been fun to get to like

1:15:56

learn how to ask questions. You know, when you

1:15:58

watch guys shows like your I listen to you

1:16:00

guys all the time. I listen to

1:16:02

other people in the industry, the McAfee's

1:16:05

and the Colin Cowards and see how

1:16:07

people deliver like information

1:16:09

and how they deliver like

1:16:11

their knowledge. And

1:16:13

it's been fun to be able to like work

1:16:15

that. And I've seen, you know,

1:16:18

they help me with TV and stuff. So it's

1:16:20

been a fun creative outlet. Yeah. And

1:16:22

you did it without dating the most famous woman in the

1:16:24

world. So congrats, no shortcuts for you. Yeah.

1:16:28

Facts. Facts. Facts.

1:16:31

That I could. Yeah, you still could. All

1:16:33

right. So we have a bunch

1:16:35

of questions, but let's start with the roast. You

1:16:37

did incredible. I told you no pressure before because

1:16:40

I wanted you to feel the

1:16:42

pressure because we were expecting a lot out of you. We

1:16:45

had you as one of the highest

1:16:47

ranked non-comedians. You did a

1:16:49

great job. What was it like

1:16:51

though, the entire event, like being there

1:16:54

and more than anything, what was it like sitting

1:16:56

next to Gronk? Because we, how

1:16:58

many of Gronk's jokes did he get? Like how many

1:17:00

did he understand? It felt like he didn't understand anything.

1:17:03

First off,

1:17:06

yeah, you called me the night before. Was it the night

1:17:08

before? The night before, yeah. And did I

1:17:10

give you any of my jokes? Did I run

1:17:12

any by you? You didn't, but you were like,

1:17:14

I was like, listen, we're like, you have to

1:17:16

perform because if you don't, like we

1:17:19

expect a lot out of you. And you delivered

1:17:21

big time. No, I was super,

1:17:24

it was super nerve wracking to do this

1:17:26

whole thing because you're jumping in and

1:17:28

you guys are good, funny

1:17:30

speakers and you guys have been in that

1:17:32

kind of world. Like we're

1:17:34

still, I'm still new to this stuff. So

1:17:37

like when you're sharing a stage like Kevin

1:17:39

Hart, Jeff Ross and the Nikki Glue, like

1:17:41

those, you can see how professional they are.

1:17:43

So the whole night I was watching teleprompters

1:17:45

and stuff, seeing how, you know, like Ron

1:17:47

Burgundy came out and he didn't say anything on

1:17:50

his teleprompter. And then he'd get back into it.

1:17:52

Like I was watching the behind the scenes stuff.

1:17:54

So I was super nervous for this whole thing,

1:17:56

went and performed at the comedy store. the

1:18:01

Thursday before with Jeff Ross, which

1:18:03

was awesome to get that rep. Because

1:18:06

I never really told jokes on

1:18:08

a stage, which is completely different

1:18:10

than doing a Q&A or speaking

1:18:12

at a motivational thing. I've done

1:18:14

those public speaking. When

1:18:17

you have to go out and actually execute something while

1:18:19

you're doing that, like to try to get a laugh,

1:18:21

it's hard. So I was super nervous

1:18:23

at the store. I was shaking, telling

1:18:26

my jokes. There was a

1:18:29

group of 15 frat

1:18:31

boys that knew exactly who I was. They

1:18:33

were like athlete fans you could sell. So

1:18:35

I got some laughs and you could see

1:18:37

where you could pause the

1:18:39

joke and not pause the joke. So it was cool

1:18:42

to get that rep. Then when we get on the

1:18:44

night before, now

1:18:46

you're in the green room

1:18:48

and our green room was me, Randy,

1:18:51

Gronk, and Coach. Everyone's

1:18:55

like, we were all kind of, it was like before

1:18:57

a game, bro. Guys

1:19:00

were sitting there in corners practicing their

1:19:02

jokes and stuff. It

1:19:05

was fun and then go out and do it.

1:19:07

You had to judge, I can't

1:19:10

drink really before my jokes

1:19:12

because I don't want to get too

1:19:14

sloppy up there. Then after

1:19:16

you start drinking, it was fun. It was a

1:19:18

fun night. It was good to see

1:19:20

a lot of people in that building. You guys know

1:19:22

what I'm talking about, Craft, Bill, and

1:19:25

Tom, all in the building. Never

1:19:28

thought I'd see that again. Yeah, it was cool

1:19:30

to see. You should have Wes Welker gone up

1:19:32

right before you and then halfway through his set,

1:19:34

just pulled him off stage and be like, I

1:19:37

got this, Wes. Just taking over

1:19:39

for him. He probably wouldn't like

1:19:41

that though. Yeah, we did have you very high. We

1:19:43

thought Drew Bledsoe did a good job too. He was

1:19:45

like- Great way to open it. Yeah. That's

1:19:47

got to be some pressure and he's a

1:19:50

great sport. That's

1:19:53

got to be such a crazy dynamic.

1:19:56

Yeah, dynamic. It's like this guy is

1:19:58

responsible for it. for your career

1:20:00

going absolutely sideways when you thought it was going

1:20:02

to go perfectly and then you have to

1:20:05

show up and make fun of him for being so much better than

1:20:07

you. Yeah. But he did a

1:20:09

really good job. I thought he was... He opened

1:20:11

the gates. Yeah, absolutely. So, about Gronk.

1:20:13

So Gronk gets up, we can all agree Gronk

1:20:15

killed it, right? Yeah, he crushed it. Gronk killed

1:20:18

it. It's okay to say gay again. I think that's like

1:20:20

five of Gronk's jokes where like,

1:20:23

Jules is here, he's gay,

1:20:25

Tom Brady, you're so gay.

1:20:27

That time Tom fucked Bill

1:20:29

Belichick from Tampa with a 1300 mile cock. Yeah.

1:20:33

And then I ducked it, I think, right?

1:20:35

Yeah, that was gonna be my question like,

1:20:37

so when Tom Brady fucked Bill Belichick with

1:20:39

a 1300 mile cock and then you sucked

1:20:41

it and lubed it up the entire way

1:20:44

from Tampa to Boston, it was in your

1:20:46

mouth. Is that true? No, that wasn't

1:20:48

true. That was a good joke. That

1:20:50

was a pigmented of his imagination. Okay,

1:20:53

but yeah. Now, getting back to

1:20:55

Gronk and watching, like I said, you could see

1:20:57

where the prompter and the jokes and stuff. You

1:21:00

know, I'm sitting there watching Gronk and like

1:21:02

he's starting, he's doing his bit and

1:21:05

then all of a sudden he

1:21:07

just starts going off his dome. Like

1:21:09

he improv, like I want to say half of the

1:21:11

stuff. It was like, I was like, oh, get back

1:21:14

to it. And then he got back onto it. It

1:21:16

was like, it was so funny. I

1:21:18

mean, it was Gronk. Yeah, it was

1:21:20

Gronk through and through. Absolutely.

1:21:23

All right. So what were you surprised?

1:21:26

No one roasted you for steroids.

1:21:29

I was. I was. I

1:21:31

was like, if I were up there, I would say that'd be the first thing

1:21:33

I'd do. I mean, I thought everything

1:21:36

was on the door when Kevin Hart opens up

1:21:38

with the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu instructor. I thought we were

1:21:40

just fucking, oh, floodgates open. Yeah. Yeah.

1:21:43

So when that was like one of the first jokes, were

1:21:45

you like, oh shit, we are really saying everything or did

1:21:47

you guys think that there were going to be boundaries? It

1:21:50

made me feel so, it made me feel so good that

1:21:52

like, all right, he went there. So I'm not, I guess

1:21:54

mine is not going to be that bad. He won't, you

1:21:56

know what I mean? He was actually a great teammate play

1:21:58

by Kevin Hart. Yeah. He set the stage

1:22:00

where he's like, he knew we were nervous about

1:22:03

saying certain things. So he hits

1:22:05

him to let him know like, this is what it's

1:22:07

going to be. In

1:22:09

a weird way, like you probably escaped

1:22:11

the best out of everyone because the

1:22:13

meanest joke anyone said about you was

1:22:15

like, you're obsessed with Tom Brady, which

1:22:17

is like, I don't know. There's

1:22:20

a there's millions of men out there who

1:22:22

they could say that about. So it's like,

1:22:24

okay, yeah, I want

1:22:26

to be him. Yeah. I don't know

1:22:29

if I want to be him, but why

1:22:31

would you ever bite the hand that fed

1:22:33

you, bro? Yeah. You

1:22:35

want to be invited because it's Tom Brady. Yeah. I'm

1:22:37

not afraid to say it. It's

1:22:41

a quarterback league. You're a dependent person when

1:22:43

you're a receiver. Yeah, you know, smart of

1:22:45

you don't like that. Absolutely. So the whole

1:22:47

situation with Bob Kraft, Bill,

1:22:50

Tom, all there together at once. It

1:22:53

seemed awkward when when Bob came out on

1:22:56

stage like like, Bill didn't really want

1:22:58

to be taken a shot. He had to be like talked

1:23:00

into it. Did anybody hang out and

1:23:02

talk afterwards or did they like

1:23:04

go their separate ways? What was that like seeing

1:23:06

all them together if they hung out later? It

1:23:11

was pretty political. You guys know that goes. Yeah. Like

1:23:14

those guys are pros at that. They know how

1:23:16

to dress rooms. They know how to read situations

1:23:18

and stuff like it

1:23:20

was. I mean, it was what it was. I didn't I didn't

1:23:22

see them at the after party. They left. The

1:23:25

aircraft came for a second and hung

1:23:27

out for a little while. But Bill, he

1:23:29

wasn't there. So there

1:23:31

wasn't really any interaction. Yeah, you're that

1:23:33

I saw. You're like a child of

1:23:35

divorce being like so hard. I don't

1:23:38

know which like who I should be

1:23:40

seen with or who I should be

1:23:42

buddy buddy with. I'll give

1:23:44

you this one. Like we're in the

1:23:46

green room and we're all telling like

1:23:48

war stories, having fun. He's just telling

1:23:50

us about rookie skin or something that he

1:23:52

loved back in the day. And

1:23:56

we're all like huddled up talking and craft

1:23:59

walked in. You know, they played it.

1:24:01

They played it, right? I mean, but it was like

1:24:03

it was like what you just said I I

1:24:05

wanted I I got up and walked away. I was

1:24:08

fucking I didn't know what to do. Yeah, I walked

1:24:10

away I went to the bathroom. I

1:24:12

just didn't want to be in any kind

1:24:14

of question asking or anything from you know,

1:24:16

I mean Yeah, yeah. Yeah Was

1:24:18

craft drunk when he came to the after party because he had

1:24:20

like four shot He had a bunch of drinks when he was

1:24:22

on stage. I'm making him like yeah I don't know this guy

1:24:24

got the tolerance of a tank or what? I

1:24:27

don't know that is that didn't notice any of

1:24:29

that. Mr Crafty's a fun. He's a funny guy.

1:24:31

What are fun? So so the other one you're

1:24:34

you're running mate Danny, Amendola I think he got

1:24:36

maybe the meanest joke of the whole time and

1:24:38

it felt like Belichick might have just showed up

1:24:40

just to Get that in on him. What

1:24:42

did they even tell us say afterwards? Cuz that

1:24:45

was that was brutal It did feel like it

1:24:47

was like that was a real one I

1:24:51

mean now you get night now you guys get a sense

1:24:53

of that's how Bill sent the humor was And

1:24:56

that's how he would humiliate people like

1:24:58

in in the film room. Yeah, you know, I

1:25:00

mean like oh, that's a that's a

1:25:02

great 250 yards Moss

1:25:05

had that that's a good half for mom, you know

1:25:08

Get on guys during film. Yeah,

1:25:10

like it was awesome to see that. Hey, I mean

1:25:12

they knew it was all fun and games They actually

1:25:14

kissed it out. Okay, that's cool. And they were cool.

1:25:16

I saw them. They're good Yeah, the other guy he

1:25:18

went after which I thought was just really funny was

1:25:21

it was a matte light. Yeah. Yeah, Matt

1:25:23

Yeah, and he just started like roasting

1:25:25

Matt light and Matt light was in the

1:25:27

back Just like I did not expect anybody

1:25:29

say my name at all tonight But I

1:25:31

felt like that was Belichick just going back

1:25:33

to the day of like, okay I'm gonna

1:25:36

I'm gonna rip this guy a new

1:25:38

asshole because I know that he fucked up on film So

1:25:40

I get to humiliate him in front of the entire team

1:25:42

kind of the same way with Danny but like it

1:25:45

there's a different one with Matt light there

1:25:47

there's a different thing with Matt light for

1:25:49

sure because Matt light I Actually

1:25:51

just had him on my podcast. We'll be launching

1:25:53

that here soon. But like Matt

1:25:56

was like the biggest prankster

1:25:59

like Like he had balls of steel

1:26:01

like he would go above and

1:26:04

beyond to do it like to get

1:26:06

a Pranking like a

1:26:08

crazy like with bill with everyone with

1:26:10

us You know that was Scarnaccio

1:26:13

like like the coaches like he was a badass on

1:26:15

the field and he was wanting You know you played

1:26:18

for 12 years He's like one of our leaders But

1:26:20

he was not afraid to make

1:26:22

a fun of the environment with

1:26:24

like these crazy pranks Which you guys can

1:26:26

listen them on games with names coming

1:26:28

out soon You know the matte light up so it'll be

1:26:30

good. I love that. I love that um What

1:26:34

about I have to ask this question because

1:26:36

it came up like four or five times Did

1:26:38

Brady not really shower with the

1:26:40

guys? Yeah, Brady to be I mean I

1:26:42

seen up a couple times He was a shower pill

1:26:45

guy. We always saw Brady take the shower poop mean

1:26:47

didn't shower just walked out. Yeah Okay,

1:26:50

yeah, that felt like a recurring theme like

1:26:53

dude Why don't you take a shower with

1:26:55

us? Which is a very funny thing when

1:26:57

you take it outside of the world of

1:26:59

a football locker room Where it's like you're

1:27:01

mad that your your buddy won't shower with

1:27:03

you Yeah, I mean that's

1:27:05

half the jokes are in the shower. You got a

1:27:08

shower with the guys you guys The

1:27:10

real bonding happens yeah Like

1:27:14

when Brady did shower with you we like holy

1:27:16

shit We got to act on our best behavior

1:27:19

cuz yeah, great No one is

1:27:21

off limits in the shower, bro Like if

1:27:23

you're walking into the war zone But

1:27:25

Brady would do this one thing where he would

1:27:27

get in the corner shower and he'd have to

1:27:29

he'd have two shower Heads on it on him

1:27:35

Serious are we serious here Tom you gotta have

1:27:37

two shower heads Did you ever can people wait

1:27:40

and did you ever have a moment where you

1:27:42

where Brady like walked in the shower one day?

1:27:44

Like once a month, and you're like fuck. I

1:27:46

haven't shaved my pubes in a while no

1:27:48

But I did there's this there is this one time

1:27:52

Where I was showering and I used

1:27:54

to shave my ain't my legs like

1:27:56

just to my cat and

1:27:58

I had hella hairy thighs because I had

1:28:00

to get my I like to get my ankles taped with no

1:28:02

free wrap. I wanted it on skin You know what I mean?

1:28:05

I go in there and Shawn spring starts making fun of

1:28:07

me goes, bro. What the hell you What

1:28:09

are you doing? Like he would make

1:28:11

fun of me in a locked room all time and then once I

1:28:13

always the shower and I showed him like a a spring's

1:28:16

I uh, I Shrimped all the way

1:28:18

up. Look he goes. I don't you ever talk to me in

1:28:20

the shower Yeah, he started making fun of you like oh, what

1:28:23

the fuck? Yes,

1:28:27

it is 14th year we shut the bed for the Shawn spring I

1:28:31

was like second year in the league and make fun of

1:28:33

me all day was funny. Yeah, you gotta shower. Yeah I

1:28:35

shower moments are fun. Yeah. Yeah, was it after would it

1:28:37

be after like a Special game that

1:28:39

Brady would be like, you know what? I'm gonna shower the boy. Give

1:28:41

him give him a treat Well,

1:28:44

I mean he had to shower in the way games

1:28:47

away games. You have to shower. Okay. Yeah Be

1:28:49

gross if you don't think he just wanted to

1:28:51

go home and shower like it is We probably

1:28:53

had like the craziest shower at his house like

1:28:55

something insane where he has like So

1:28:58

he's not great at water. Yeah, so when the

1:29:00

schedule would come out you would you would circle

1:29:02

all the away games being like nice I'm

1:29:05

gonna get shower with Brady these days. Yeah Alright

1:29:11

serious question Because we

1:29:13

haven't had you on since it happened, but the

1:29:15

dynasty doc it was a little crazy

1:29:19

we had Belichick's back it felt like a

1:29:22

Very slanted against him when you were watching

1:29:24

it Were you like I lived half of

1:29:26

this and it's not exactly how it went.

1:29:28

I mean, yeah

1:29:30

I mean that it was I don't know

1:29:34

There it was pretty clickbaity where

1:29:37

they just wanted to go over everything that You

1:29:40

know you that people want to see

1:29:42

that they hated us for a long time and

1:29:44

they fed it and it is what it is You know

1:29:46

what? I mean? They

1:29:49

just kind of like brushed over Like

1:29:52

the great games that we had like the

1:29:54

Troy Brown game were Tom

1:29:56

throws the interception they're about to

1:29:58

lose against Sandy Diego, Troy, Strip,

1:30:00

we didn't see any of that stuff.

1:30:04

I don't know, but it's Hollywood. They

1:30:08

gotta do what they gotta do to make it sell.

1:30:10

Yeah, no, it's hard to do a

1:30:12

documentary. There's definitely something

1:30:14

that's said, you can't do a documentary where it's

1:30:16

just like, oh, they won, and then they won

1:30:18

again, and then they won again, because everyone will

1:30:20

be like, well, what the fuck? We wanna see

1:30:22

the other stuff. But it did feel like more

1:30:24

other stuff than we... Hey! The

1:30:27

crazy thing is, we all did those interviews,

1:30:29

and that's when Bill was still under the

1:30:31

team, so I think he had to do

1:30:33

it. Yeah, that's what we were

1:30:35

saying. It's like, Mr. Kraft asked him what that...

1:30:37

He doesn't get to have his... You know what

1:30:39

I mean? But it's been really awesome to see,

1:30:41

because of all this stuff, Bill's kinda

1:30:43

opened up just to go out and do some

1:30:45

of these TV things, and he's been doing stuff

1:30:47

with Maxi, and it's been cool

1:30:50

to see him open up a little bit

1:30:52

and show people, like, yeah, I'm not... Yeah,

1:30:54

I'm an asshole, but it's fun. Yeah,

1:30:57

yeah, yeah. I'm a football coach. Look how

1:30:59

much information I know. Yeah, yeah. He knows

1:31:01

a lot. He's a genius. Yeah,

1:31:04

so, yeah, in the documentary, Hank

1:31:07

was saying that there's not enough Patriots porn.

1:31:09

It feels like they did make a documentary

1:31:12

almost more for the Patriots haters, because there

1:31:14

are more of them than there are Patriots

1:31:16

fans. But there was one part

1:31:18

that featured you that was just pure Super

1:31:21

Bowl Patriots porn. When you made

1:31:23

that catch against the Falcons, and then you

1:31:25

immediately jumped up, you're like, no, bro, I caught it, right

1:31:27

in the defender's face. He's like, no, you dropped it, and

1:31:29

you're like, bro, I caught it. And it was just like

1:31:32

a nice little back and forth there. When

1:31:34

you watch that play on replay, when you

1:31:36

see replay of it, do you pause it and

1:31:38

rewind it and rewatch it again? Because if I were you,

1:31:40

I would just watch that shit all the time. Be like,

1:31:42

look what I did. No, not at all. I honestly... It's

1:31:46

a lucky play. I

1:31:48

like watching plays that I got blown up or

1:31:50

something, and I hung on with the ball. I

1:31:52

came chance to lift me up. I always liked

1:31:54

that play, but not

1:31:56

really. That was a

1:31:58

bad route, so I don't like that. play.

1:32:00

Oh, you fucked up bad process. Good

1:32:03

result. I I I banana my route. It's a

1:32:05

it's a it's a middle read and you know

1:32:08

with cover five, you gotta go

1:32:10

to the near upgrade of the the post. You know

1:32:12

what I mean? If it was covered, if there's one

1:32:14

safety, then you take it to the numbers and it

1:32:16

becomes more like a fade but right

1:32:18

here, you're trying to put pressure on the two

1:32:20

on the two high safety. So, you know, you

1:32:22

you want to really try to get him the

1:32:25

the defender. He's got inside leverage. I want

1:32:27

you gotta you gotta like I've been in my

1:32:29

route. You gotta make him feel like you're hitting

1:32:31

that that bow route

1:32:34

and then he undercuts and then you get you

1:32:37

get open and I just kind of I mean it

1:32:39

was it was a bad route. I don't like it.

1:32:41

Who's that? Oh, it's

1:32:44

Brandon Marshall. What the hell is that, bro? How

1:32:46

we doing, buddy? Yeah, you gotta hold on. Shit.

1:32:48

Hit me up. Hit me up on Thursday. Thirty

1:32:50

minutes before I was like, hey, bro, I'm staying

1:32:52

at your house from uh Thursday

1:32:54

to Monday. It's cool. I'm like, sure. It's

1:32:56

a real show. He did the same thing with us.

1:32:59

Be Marsh. He he came to the Chicago office and

1:33:01

then like four days later, he was still coming in.

1:33:03

I was like, do you work here now? He's like,

1:33:05

no, I'm I'm using your podcast. I was like, oh,

1:33:07

okay, cool. This is

1:33:10

Rocky. Hey, hey, Rocky. What's up, Rocky?

1:33:12

Big Cat. Y'all was making me meals

1:33:14

and everything. I know. You're welcome back

1:33:16

anytime. Yeah. Yeah. Anytime. Hold on. Come

1:33:18

out. I walk in Jules house. First off,

1:33:21

this house is like the

1:33:23

best house I've ever seen in the world. He's super

1:33:25

rich. But uh,

1:33:27

I thought you were retiring. Why are you still talking

1:33:30

football? You ain't got a bow route. You talking

1:33:32

about bow route? You fucked up that round the

1:33:34

Super Bowl. He kicked out after about the catch.

1:33:36

I hate that play because I little read.

1:33:39

I didn't bought my guy to the bow route. I

1:33:41

put him in my route. That's like the coach.

1:33:43

That's like one thing you can't do. This

1:33:46

is so because it was like our 97th play like

1:33:48

we had a 97 play game

1:33:50

for offense which you're you're cooked and I mean

1:33:53

they literally ran out of gas. That's why we're

1:33:55

going into a real show. Yeah. This is this

1:33:57

is like so bell check of you though because.

1:34:00

It makes me think that it's one point Belichick

1:34:03

might have brought up that catch the next year and been

1:34:05

like Edelman This is how it is not how you run

1:34:07

the route even though it was like nah, he never did

1:34:09

that That would

1:34:11

be very not with it that I've always wanted you watch film

1:34:13

of the Super Bowl Do you break that down and learn from

1:34:15

it? Cuz like it's a new team the next year. Do you

1:34:18

even know? You know what I do. I During

1:34:21

Super Bowl time. I watched NFL Network and

1:34:23

like they always have You

1:34:25

know like the old games on and

1:34:27

I just watched old games like the TV copies

1:34:29

cuz a I've never seen really a lot Of

1:34:32

the TV copies when I was playing And

1:34:35

he it's good to reference like for like it

1:34:37

brings up my memories back like oh shit Yeah,

1:34:39

I remember that situation this game right here Then

1:34:41

it's good for like when I talk TV and

1:34:44

yeah, you know talk to you guys and stuff So it's

1:34:46

I like I'm a fan of the game So

1:34:49

you watch all these the old cut-ups are crazy

1:34:51

like then you get the AFC champion or championship

1:34:53

week They have all the old AFC championship weeks

1:34:55

and stuff. I think it's fun Yeah, what one

1:34:57

last question about the document are you gonna tell

1:34:59

us why Malcolm Butler was bench for the Super

1:35:01

Bowl? Oh, yeah Have

1:35:03

no clue bro So

1:35:07

no one knows I was away from the team

1:35:09

bro I was so mad actually because I told

1:35:11

my ACL that year. Yeah, you're with us and

1:35:14

Yeah, I remember I was with you It was

1:35:16

like I couldn't even go to the team hotel like they

1:35:18

put me out in this other team up This is a

1:35:20

family hotel. I got was so pissed

1:35:22

man. I'd like go 45 minutes You're

1:35:25

not part of the show. Yeah, even know why yeah, I

1:35:27

don't even know why I remember you came on radio I

1:35:29

was like, how's it going? How the guys feeling and you

1:35:31

were just like, I don't know Like

1:35:34

I'm not with them. I'm not allowed to

1:35:36

be with ya. It's fucking yeah, they're like

1:35:38

they were in the game, bro Yeah. Um, alright, so

1:35:40

we have to ask you and you have to you

1:35:42

have to pump up Hank He's

1:35:45

not super excited about Drake May

1:35:48

and partially your fault, right? You

1:35:50

know what? I he's been growing on

1:35:52

me. Drake's been growing on me. Okay.

1:35:55

I like the whole basketball Wretched

1:35:57

out basketball gym night of I

1:36:00

heard he was like one of the best I heard he was

1:36:02

the best golfer at That

1:36:04

one visit where they were going to top golf with

1:36:06

the teams and stuff like he went up and he's

1:36:08

got like There's nothing to do with football. What did

1:36:10

she like him to not be? Like

1:36:16

You know the competitive dudes that like to

1:36:19

compete when it's like a Hairy

1:36:22

situation those guys aren't scared of that that

1:36:24

moment now I'm not saying that guy's there

1:36:26

but like those little stories if you

1:36:28

I don't know if they're coming out of nowhere I've

1:36:30

started to hear or more. Yeah sitting

1:36:32

up Yeah,

1:36:35

not not he sat in he sat in like

1:36:37

the regular seats at the Bruins didn't sit in

1:36:39

the suite man of the people Okay,

1:36:42

it's ultimately I mean, it's this is

1:36:45

a this is not just You

1:36:48

know on him, you know, this is on you know

1:36:50

now wolf who's the general manager. You got to

1:36:53

get him playmakers We got you know that this

1:36:55

is also on the developmental of you

1:36:57

know, the coaching staff You know

1:36:59

being Drake or the new OC they have

1:37:02

like this is that's gonna be his job

1:37:04

They brought in Ben McAdoo So he's gonna

1:37:06

be like probably working with the quarterback and

1:37:08

help developing this guy So, you know, this

1:37:10

is a team effort when you have a young

1:37:13

quarterback and I never really got to experience one

1:37:15

Yeah, what about the allegations again from Hank that

1:37:17

he throws a very heavy ball heavy the ball

1:37:19

looks heavy in his hands I like he's big.

1:37:21

He's big though. Yeah, so

1:37:23

you think like when he Has a

1:37:25

heavier ball Nah,

1:37:28

I mean I gotta I gotta catch

1:37:30

it. I'll let you guys know. I'm gonna go check

1:37:32

out a camp Yeah, I'll give you a little update

1:37:34

on it. Okay. I gotta go catch it, you know,

1:37:37

hey, I threw it drew blood So

1:37:39

yeah, that was all right. He was throwing

1:37:41

a thousand miles an hour. Yeah Yeah,

1:37:44

if you ask him to do you ask him to do

1:37:46

that or was he just like here's a here's a here's a

1:37:48

catch Here's going 90 miles an hour No,

1:37:51

we were literally we did

1:37:53

the podcast and then we went out in the

1:37:55

backyard and we were drinking wine He's a big

1:37:57

wine guy, you know double back. I think is

1:37:59

his is one company and

1:38:01

we and there's a ball there and we

1:38:04

just started throwing I was like I want to catch

1:38:06

Drew's ball and see how it feels it is that

1:38:08

dude's got the centrifugal force on his ball those

1:38:11

are like big-handed guys when the when the

1:38:13

the ball speed is spinning fast you

1:38:16

know and he could just flick it is

1:38:18

it I mean he could still he's 50 years

1:38:20

old yeah is it weird he could still zig

1:38:22

it yeah is it weird when you when you