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PGA Champ Xander Schauffele, NBA With Brian Windhorst, Celtics Survive Game 1 And Pardon Your Take

PGA Champ Xander Schauffele, NBA With Brian Windhorst, Celtics Survive Game 1 And Pardon Your Take

PGA Champ Xander Schauffele, NBA With Brian Windhorst, Celtics Survive Game 1 And Pardon Your Take

Wednesday, 22nd May 2024
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Today is Wednesday, May 22nd And

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the Boston Celtics survive game

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one In overtime

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And they win one that, what was

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that? I was doing two I

5:04

was doing two What was the twos for?

5:06

The two was, they needed to win this

5:08

one because game two is coming up The

5:10

Celtics never win game twos That was, Hank,

5:13

you have to say that was like one of those ones where like We

5:15

shouldn't have won that game, but we did That was

5:18

huge, it was a wake up call win, which are

5:20

the best types of wake up calls Yeah, well you

5:22

guys needed, it sounds so weird because they needed wake

5:24

up calls That game felt like it was

5:26

over and then they took their foot off the gas in the third

5:28

quarter And all of a sudden, Hal

5:30

Burton hits that crazy bank shot to end the quarter

5:32

You're like, wait, this is a fucking one possession game,

5:34

what's going on? Yeah, even in the second quarter they

5:37

were up a lot and they kind of blew the

5:39

lead going into halftime They tied it up I

5:42

mean that's been the Celtics team for the last, you know,

5:44

three, four, five years Is being really

5:46

good, getting up, taking their foot off the gas

5:49

Always, always close games no matter what But

5:53

they overcame, they were stumbling at the end

5:55

of the fourth quarter A couple of really

5:57

bad turnovers, Jalen Brown was not playing good

6:00

in the fourth quarter and then he came up clutch when

6:02

it mattered most. It was a crazy shot that he hit

6:04

too and it felt like the Celtics had the game in

6:06

hand. They were up by three points. They had the ball.

6:09

The Celtics had missed a couple... Pacers had the

6:11

game in hand. Pacers had the game in hand. Celtics

6:13

had missed a couple three-point shots to try to

6:15

tie the game up. Pacers advanced

6:17

the ball past half-court. Boneheaded

6:19

turnover. Celtics get another crack

6:21

at it and then Jalen Brown's three. Felt

6:24

like it was off balance. It felt like it had no

6:26

chance at all in going in. It went

6:28

in and at that point it was like all

6:30

the momentum shifted. Because the Pacers had the game

6:32

won. And they gave it away. And when

6:34

you give a game away like that in the last 20 seconds, it

6:38

feels like even if it goes into overtime, there's nothing

6:40

good that's going to happen to you. Yeah. Our

6:43

guy, Stat Hole, just texted me and said,

6:45

both teams tonight had a 98% chance

6:47

to win the game in regulation. Neither team won

6:50

it in regulation. That's pretty crazy. But

6:52

yeah, that was... Those things are always so cool.

6:55

Yeah, no, they're fun to just look at. Be

6:57

like, oh man. Unless you're a Falcons fan. Yeah,

6:59

unless you're a Falcons fan. And

7:02

the Pacers... Like, I thought the Pacers were going

7:04

to come out flat in this game because they

7:06

just played a game seven on Sunday. Two

7:09

days rest or one day off. And

7:12

being like, all right, now you got to jump into the Celtics.

7:15

They just kept fighting, kept making shots.

7:17

They just keep shooting. Like, they

7:20

cooled off towards the end, but there was a moment in this game

7:22

where they were shooting like 58% again. You

7:25

know, insane. I

7:27

mean, they look at least like they're in this series.

7:29

Their game seven was also like half of the game

7:31

seven. Yeah.

7:34

Because they put that away early. So it's not like they

7:36

had to fight for an entire game

7:38

against the Knicks. But

7:40

I was surprised that they were able

7:42

to hang in there for as long as they did. I thought at

7:45

the end of this game, when the Celtics ended up winning, I

7:48

thought that the Pacers might be able to build off

7:51

it, but then I just thought for a little bit

7:53

longer, and this seems like the

7:55

most demoralizing loss possible. Well, it also was

7:57

weird because it was, if you

7:59

remember the- last like sequence I thought it

8:01

was gonna happen on the Derek white rebound where

8:03

he had that incredible rebound and was just out

8:05

hustling everyone and they kick it out and Jason

8:07

Tatum misses a shot and then The

8:10

Pacers get the ball back here like it now it

8:12

is officially over the thing about the Pacers is they're

8:14

really good offensively Right, they can score a shitload of

8:16

points, but if it's a close game, they

8:19

just they panic Yeah, they just smash the

8:21

panic button. They they freak out and Their

8:24

coach was terrible taking his time out

8:26

It's Rick Carlisle didn't do shit in the last minute

8:29

of that game that he should have done I also

8:31

think Pascal see I come like he got stuck in

8:33

this spot Jalen Brown can't hit

8:35

free throws Hank. You've been talking about it all year It

8:38

bothers you you get scared when he goes to

8:41

free throw line. I Just

8:43

like in that situation I know I'm not

8:45

a big follow-up three with eight seconds left

8:47

and more like follow-up three with five seconds

8:49

left and under But when

8:51

Jalen Brown gets the ball He felt

8:53

like Pasco see I come was about to fall and then

8:56

he realized oh shit He's gonna shoot yeah, and then didn't

8:58

get a hand in the face and then you get that

9:00

which was an incredible shot by Jill He was a dealing

9:02

bright and he hit the shot He had two free throws

9:04

at the end of the fourth quarter and he kind of

9:06

forced the turnover and he went left Yeah,

9:08

he was dribbling with his left hand. What happened?

9:10

I'm gonna see when What

9:13

happened to Jason Tatum in the fourth quarter? He

9:16

scored ten points in overtime, which is the most

9:18

I said was order. I Mean

9:20

he missed open shop Shooters are gonna miss shots.

9:23

Yeah, he he you know, did get the a

9:26

Mm-hmm, you know Brown had a bad beginning in the

9:28

fourth quarter or like in that middle period where the

9:30

Pacers kind of took the lead That was he had

9:32

a bad tone turnover bad couple shots. I think a

9:34

couple turnovers Jason Tatum missed a couple shots They

9:37

brought it back. This is the ultimate ultimate game

9:40

for for the Celtics too Because they got they

9:42

got choked to an inch of their life and

9:44

then they were able to breathe through it maintain

9:47

their composure Azula's doing this and he's

9:49

probably loving every second of it on the sidelines. Yeah, it

9:51

was a loss It felt like a loss like the players

9:53

felt like they lost it. They had that feeling of like,

9:55

oh fuck I can't believe we lost it at home. We

9:57

had the lead we choked blah blah blah blah blah I've

10:00

been trying not to do that. Buh buh

10:02

buh buh buh buh. Nobody you're right, a wake up call and a

10:04

win is a pretty good wake up. Yeah. The

10:07

only thing you could say positively for the Pacers is

10:09

that this same thing happened to them in the next

10:11

series. That game won, they

10:14

got screwed, and that was a very

10:16

winnable game, and they still won

10:18

that series. Well we were saying if the Pacers

10:20

had won this game, Boston loses every game too

10:22

across all sports, and then the

10:24

Pacers haven't lost at home since what, March

10:26

18th? March 18th. So what, Cavalier?

10:29

You were staring down the barrel of a sweep. If

10:32

you didn't win tonight, now we're on the other

10:34

side of the barrel. Yeah, now you're on the

10:36

other side of the barrel. Now who's got the

10:38

gun? Our good friend John Fidleberg I thought had

10:40

the best tweet about Jason Tatum. I love fights

10:42

because whenever the Bruins get pounced from the playoffs

10:44

he just switches to Celtics. He said, after watching

10:46

one Tatum game, I'd like to loudly agree with

10:48

people who think he's the best player in the

10:50

league. I also agree with people who think he's a

10:53

bum. Now

10:55

you got to put it perfectly. Yeah, that's Carl Anthony Jones

10:57

today. Jason's name is just how you look at him. Hank,

11:00

here's the thing. Jason Tatum's really good, but he's

11:02

also a star player that, like, that's what happens

11:04

to star. He had 10 points in

11:06

overtime. I understand the fourth quarter. Star players get criticized.

11:09

If Luca puts a dud tomorrow night, we're going

11:11

to talk about Luca putting up a dud tomorrow

11:13

night. I

11:16

mean that, that... I just said Jason Tatum's

11:18

a fucking incredible player. But

11:20

it's always the butt. It's always Jason Tatum's butt. You know what,

11:22

you know why? Alright, I'm... No, no, I'm...

11:26

I'm running this through the Hank translator, right now. Hank

11:28

is getting so defensive about this because

11:31

Jason Tatum has never won

11:33

anything. That's why he's defensive of

11:35

it. Nothing but success. But if he had... If

11:37

Jason Tatum was like an NBA Finals MVP and you

11:39

were questioning what he did in the fourth quarter, Hank

11:41

would be like, yeah, he's got to show up there.

11:44

But because he's Hank's guy and hasn't won anything

11:46

yet, Hank has to be like, you shut your

11:48

mouth. He's my special baby.

11:50

I think Jason Tatum is really fucking

11:52

good. If you have a

11:54

really fucking good player, I just want him

11:56

to take over games. And like ice the

11:58

game out overtime. I was great fourth

12:01

quarter with the reason why the Pacers were even

12:03

in that spot was like there was

12:05

multiple times He's like tatum do it go

12:07

take it He did it that that

12:09

that that layup he hit where Tijana McConnell was

12:11

basically trying to tackle him Yeah, it's all strength.

12:14

There you go. Was that I feel like you just

12:16

only listen to the bad things I say about

12:18

it It's not you. It's just everyone. Yeah, but

12:20

you also remember that turnover. I'm not gonna say

12:22

I can't say bad There's bad pass off pick.

12:24

I can't even exist that a good Jason tatum

12:26

thought you had to communicate better than I

12:29

can't even exist Hey Just just when we talk

12:31

about Jason's in picture in your brain that he's

12:33

already won in NBA finals and then

12:35

try to absorb it Through that filter. I think

12:38

that's pretty fair. He had 36 tonight Ten

12:40

points in the in overtime. We

12:42

do in the fourth hit ten minutes. We didn't score

12:44

a point It's fine. They

12:47

won the game who cares That's

12:50

that's my that's what I'm saying if you Before

12:52

the game started Jason tatum 36 points 10 points

12:54

over time Celtics win Discourses are

12:57

gonna be he didn't show up in the fourth quarter.

12:59

Well, how is that Paul? I just asked

13:01

a question about the fourth quarter. I said, what about

13:03

the fourth quarter? We're process guys not results guys That's

13:05

facts and you know, I'm a bottom line guy and

13:07

I'm a stat kick So if you guys hadn't won

13:09

this game, what would you have said? It

13:12

was bad that it was bad. It would okay

13:14

That's fair. You know what? That's fair. That's a completely fair

13:16

thing. I think Jason's evens really good It

13:19

would have been bad for again Both

13:21

of them played bad in the fourth quarter But

13:23

then Jalen Brown saved the game and Jason Tatum

13:25

carried them in overtime. That's all you can ask

13:27

from your two best players Alright,

13:30

so game two. What do you think prediction? Blowout

13:33

wake up call which way so thick

13:35

Oh wait wake up call in

13:37

a blowout. No, they've been woken up Yeah,

13:40

this was there already was the perfect ending for

13:42

you. It was a wake-up call win. Mm-hmm Those

13:45

are very hard to come by I know. Yeah,

13:47

really really hard to come by Yeah, that

13:50

is truly when you have to be a bottom line

13:52

guy a results guy is after a game like this

13:54

How many fucking wake-up calls this genius? Wake

13:57

up call every fucking series Fuck

14:00

you ever played anybody How

14:05

many times you're gonna get how many fucking times

14:07

you're gonna get woken up by team that fucking

14:09

sucks I'm

14:13

done with it Jason Tatum played like dick in

14:15

the fourth quarter. He was horrible

14:17

and then they were finally like yeah We're

14:19

playing the fucking papers the fucking

14:22

pacer It's like we spent

14:24

the first ten minutes the show just like either

14:26

car for taking up a carbonated bottle of Max

14:28

and then just open He's also sitting in a

14:31

sitting in memes a seat so we can't

14:33

see him. I had no idea He's just

14:35

yeah, you're right. We just we just need

14:37

what we just did is we just Fucking

14:40

Mac. That's what you did. Dad. He's dead It

14:43

was a slow-mo video putting a Mentos in

14:45

a Pepsi can and just being like alright

14:47

here we go No,

14:54

I mean it's like again when you make it this far

14:56

in the playoffs you play more games So you have more

14:58

opportunities for wake-up calls. That's just simple. That's a good point

15:00

and Hank knows something about a wake-up call Yeah,

15:03

yeah, sometimes you need several. Yeah. I mean, it's

15:05

the first time you've played a team who actually

15:07

has your best player Or

15:09

yeah, what happened? We won. I got

15:12

a brother. I guess the net well actually no,

15:14

I'm all fucked up I'm gonna wait come back

15:16

to it. Yeah, I'm all fuck Jared Allen was

15:18

is the well done Really Simon Mitchell miss games.

15:20

Yeah, he did miss games Yeah,

15:22

he did miss games. Yeah, you're back on track

15:25

Alright, should we that that game

15:27

seven Oilers Canucks? I want to

15:29

say shout out Vancouver did not riot did

15:32

not riot It felt like Vancouver was coming

15:34

back though It felt like they were they were gonna tie

15:36

it up in the third period after they

15:38

got the second goal Yeah, it felt like it was

15:40

gonna happen that that barn was gonna explode and it

15:43

was the most dominating performance for

15:45

the first 50 minutes

15:47

of that game Like the the shots were out

15:50

of control the Oilers every single time the Canucks

15:52

got the puck in the Oilers zone It's like

15:54

they didn't get a good shot or they didn't get a

15:56

shot period and and

15:59

like even the first period like

16:01

I know is zero zero after one but

16:03

McDavid played five minutes and they

16:05

killed a four-minute penalty and they were just like

16:07

you could just see you're like those are so

16:09

much better but I agree like that that

16:12

last four minutes you're like oh shit is this

16:14

about to happen yeah it felt like it might

16:16

but congratulations to Edmonton Canada marches on I'm just

16:18

glad that we have a Canadian team that's this

16:20

far I want to see can well we would

16:23

have no matter what I know but

16:25

I'm glad that it's happening yeah because like when

16:27

you watch this entire series whether the games being

16:29

played in Edmonton or in Vancouver the

16:31

Canadian the fans seem just like way more

16:34

amped up than most American fan bases 50-50

16:36

raffle they walk in the door it's like

16:38

600,000 it's incredible not it's

16:40

they go absolutely ape shit for

16:42

hockey and I like watching it so I'm glad I

16:45

hope they get to read to the finals and

16:47

I I kind of just

16:49

for our own sake I hope that Edmonton loses

16:51

the finals just for the

16:53

storyline story the storyline just

16:56

for the story oh I

16:58

love you they play if they play the Rangers I don't yeah

17:00

if they play the Rangers I'm gonna be yeah probably

17:03

root for although if the Rangers win I will

17:05

count that is like a Tom Wilson Stanley Cup

17:07

yeah yeah ooh Edmonton Florida would

17:09

be fun for people writing stories

17:11

about how far they have to travel yeah I

17:13

mean the Dallas for the same conference that's a

17:15

sneaky long trip yeah it is yeah worth it

17:17

out nothing I like more

17:19

than talking about playing travel yeah yeah

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want to get it going get everyone looking at the

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get you in the right mindset for Memorial

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we're kicking off right now. It's awesome Also,

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if you if you load up a cooler

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send us pictures of Coors Light. Yeah, I

19:01

just love looking at cool Oh, I love

19:04

it. Love it. Love it. Love it. Uh,

19:06

okay, Hank hot seat cool throne. My hot

19:08

seat is Antonio Brown Oh, oh, what happened?

19:10

I went bankrupt. Oh, no, player bankruptcy. So

19:13

what's his career earnings? Let's look that up

19:15

real quick a lot Antonio Brown. It's

19:17

um I'm gonna guess 78

19:20

million 89

19:24

million. Okay. Let's see here. I'm

19:26

gonna guess 94

19:29

million because he wasn't obviously like highly

19:31

drafted. So he probably had someone

19:33

said 79 Yeah,

19:36

I said 89 78

19:38

what is it? 80.7. Oh, yeah

19:41

track. Oh Nice

19:43

Hank, so he's that means he doesn't he

19:46

spent 80 million dollars. Well half for taxes

19:48

true Well, he played in Florida another 10

19:50

people only for a little for a little

19:52

bit very little and he lived with

19:54

Tom Brady So he probably saved some money there and

19:56

percent on agent fee. Yeah, so now we're down to

19:58

he's basically he was broke the second he got

20:00

pretty much played stop for a playful play for a

20:02

break. I forgot it was on the Raiders. Yeah, he

20:04

played. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, the hard knocks hot

20:07

air balloon. Yeah. So I hope

20:09

that the bankruptcy court proceedings are like the

20:11

last episode of Seinfeld where they just bring

20:13

out every single person that he has not

20:15

paid money to over the years,

20:17

like whether it's any home contractor, anybody he's

20:20

had do like video work for him. It's

20:22

like every six months for a while people were just saying, yeah,

20:24

I worked for Antonio Brown. I was

20:26

a chef and he never paid me and then he also

20:28

sexually assaulted me. Yeah, I hope they just bring them out

20:31

one by one in this hearing and

20:33

have them testify for him. I also hope

20:35

that CT ESPN is not part of this

20:37

bankruptcy. No, that's why he started CT ESPN.

20:39

Okay. So that those assets could not

20:41

be touched by a personal bankruptcy. Got it. Yeah.

20:44

So smart, savvy business move. Yeah. The

20:46

part. Hey, getting thoughts on it? No,

20:49

it's I feel bad. Yeah. I

20:52

mean, he definitely has to do. Do you remember when

20:54

he was just like jacking off in a pool? Like

20:56

a year ago? That was weird. That was

20:58

really strange. He's successfully done

21:00

so much weird shit in the last three

21:03

years. Ante's perfect. That you completely forget about

21:05

the next one that he does. Ante's perfect,

21:07

that one hit. He

21:09

really, that was unaware

21:11

you can point to him and be like, that

21:13

was kind of where things changed. All

21:15

right, who's your cool throne? My cool throne is

21:18

Chet Hanks and White Boys. Shit, that was mine

21:20

too. White Boys on the cool throne?

21:23

White Boys back up? White Boys. What

21:25

do you say? Well, first, his dad

21:28

texts him asking about the Drake situation.

21:30

Wait, who's his dad? Tom Hanks. Got

21:32

it. Okay. What's

21:35

he been in? Catch me if you can. That's

21:37

the one you go with with Tom Hanks? I

21:40

feel like it's a Saving Private Ryan or Forrest Gump.

21:42

Forrest Gump is the one, one. Big,

21:44

right? You've got mail. Big is

21:46

great. But what do you think

21:48

the number one, if you say Tom Hanks, Tom

21:51

the movie and Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks had nothing

21:53

but success in the movie Philadelphia. Yeah.

21:56

What would you say the number one Tom Hanks if

21:59

you pulled 100? people on the street would be

22:01

Forrest Gump. halfway would sneaky be

22:03

high. I think I has he done any voices

22:05

in a kids movie? Yeah, so yeah, what is

22:07

or yeah, would it? Yeah, so it'd be Toy

22:09

Story or Forrest Gump. I think you've got mail.

22:13

Sleepless in Seattle. Same program

22:15

with big two. Yeah, people will

22:17

catch me if you can go. Great

22:19

movie, but he also is not the main character.

22:24

Yeah, no. Go

22:26

to go to. I

22:28

think you could do that. Oh

22:30

yeah, in the 60s. What

22:32

about now? Probably not. It

22:35

was so innovation. Yeah, and it's so easy to do crimes

22:37

in the 60s. Oh, dude, like

22:40

100 years ago, could you move across, move

22:42

to the next town? You could murder anyone. You just

22:44

fucking kill someone and just be like, I'm out. You

22:46

just get on a horse and go like 20 miles

22:48

and no one knows you. Yeah, wasn't the first guy

22:50

to get COVID? Who? Oh, he was

22:52

one of them. Yeah, he might have been under. You

22:55

remember when he was locked in that Australian prison? And

22:57

he got to pretend that he was hosting SNL on

22:59

the green screen. I remember that first night. They

23:02

said he had it, and everyone thought like, oh

23:04

my god. Yeah, it was interesting. It

23:07

was like a triple whammy of the NBA getting

23:09

canceled, Rudy Gobert, and then Tom Hanks locked

23:12

in jail in Australia. Yeah, in

23:14

that Georgetown St. John's game. The

23:16

half time. I was 8-0-1 that week. I

23:20

was on fire. He texted

23:22

his son Chet, and he said, big main.

23:26

It seems fake. You

23:29

think so? You think he had some big main? I guess he

23:31

had to talk. Like, he was trying to relate with his son.

23:34

He goes, big main. Can you explain the Drake

23:36

Kendrick Lamar feud to me? And

23:39

then Chet Hanks sent him like a

23:41

two-paragraph long text explaining it, and he

23:43

said, holy cow, exclamation point. These

23:45

are fighting words. People take inside. Who's winning?

23:50

So that was funny. OK. Tom

23:52

Hanks is like, who's winning, son? Yeah. Is

23:55

there a score tracker I can keep up with? But

23:58

then Chet Hanks came back the next day. Instagram

24:00

said I've consulted with the heavens felt westward

24:02

breeze walked outside of a strip club and

24:04

saw my shadow This will

24:07

be a white boy summer. Hell. Yeah, I have

24:09

spoken. That's all right. Let's go What are you

24:11

doing? This will be a hashtag WBS. Oh, what

24:13

about city boys? Nothing about

24:15

city boys. Are they up? There

24:18

now, wait white city boys Okay,

24:20

city boys up white boys up. Did you

24:22

just learn that I did like Eight

24:26

hours ago You remember what

24:28

he dry you correctly? Yeah, like two years ago

24:30

You really put a white boy summer was two

24:32

years ago, but yeah, but check it back. So

24:35

I need to who made it city boys No,

24:37

but that was any boys did So

24:40

bring it back city boy. I think it's like

24:42

I just learned what it is. Bring it back

24:44

Please some some white boys or city boys, but

24:46

not all city boys are white boys got it

24:50

And all white boys are gonna have a good summer

24:52

Yeah, remember that shirt that we leave we don't have

24:54

to the most racist font ever on the back of

24:56

it Yeah, it was like the calligraphy. Yeah, that was

24:58

a great shirt that he did. Yeah White

25:00

boy, do you remember that shirt though? I do. Oh, yeah, I

25:03

do. No, he had a whole line It was such a funny

25:05

shirt. Yeah. Yeah, he had a whole line He did his workout

25:07

where he would just do burpees and then for some reason just

25:09

like hit his like dick muscles Yeah, where

25:11

he hit like the V muscle every

25:14

time He's

25:16

he tried to see I think Because

25:22

Nick and KB thing I didn't know Nick

25:25

and KB did something with him and then they got his

25:27

number and then we called him on the yak I think

25:29

Tommy smokes Tried like said something

25:31

to him and he's like I didn't know I was live.

25:33

I'm gonna sue you guys Sounds

25:36

like you got a trick, right? Yeah, I mean

25:38

it was Tommy's fault. So he Tommy

25:40

wants to get sued He can get sued. Has he

25:42

been anything recently? Your

25:44

honor and yeah, you used good in your

25:46

honor. Yeah, chat. Yeah, you're like a crackhead.

25:49

Yeah, did a really good job He was very good

25:51

white boys up city boys

25:54

sit White boys summer

25:56

city boys up got it

25:58

white white boys up Does

26:01

that play? I don't know. White

26:05

Boy Summer's better, yeah, I agree. White Boy's up

26:07

is, yeah, okay, good call. White Boy Summer? Good

26:09

call, yeah, I guess. You

26:11

just let us know. Okay, we

26:13

should ask Chet. Yeah. I'll

26:16

have Mon. Yeah, we'll have

26:18

Mon. Great week. Sure,

26:22

yeah. Alright, BFT. My

26:24

hot seat is the guy who had Bryce Harper

26:26

ask a girl to prom for him. Did

26:29

you see that? Yes. So Bryce

26:31

Harper goes with a guy in Philly, right?

26:33

Philly kid goes to a

26:35

girl's door, they knock on the door, and

26:38

Bryce Harper helps this kid ask the girl

26:40

to prom for him. The girl

26:42

is just thrilled that Bryce Harper's on her

26:44

doorstep. She says yes somewhere in

26:46

there, and then after she says yes, she

26:49

goes and immediately gives a big hug to

26:51

Bryce Harper right afterwards. And

26:53

it was interesting because I

26:55

guess- It was up. I guess mission

26:57

accomplished, right? Yeah. You got

26:59

Bryce Harper in there, but now did you say yes just

27:01

because she wanted to give Bryce Harper a hug? Yeah,

27:04

I mean, you can't bring Bryce

27:06

Harper to your crush's house. Right.

27:09

Like, please go on a date with me. Please

27:12

have Bryce Harper, objectively

27:14

very good looking guy, really

27:16

good at baseball, even though the Phillies have

27:18

been playing the Savannah bananas every night. And

27:23

then just be like, yeah, but it's me, you're going to

27:25

prom with me, not Bryce Harper. Yeah, you don't want to

27:27

stand next to somebody way more attractive than you when asking

27:29

such an important question. Right.

27:32

Right. I don't know, but I guess it works, so

27:35

good job. Yeah. Max, what do

27:37

you think about this? Weird? No,

27:40

all time good guy Bryce Harper. Philly

27:43

just appreciates Bryce Harper, and obviously

27:45

she was thankful for Bryce Harper to

27:47

come and be part of her prom-promposal.

27:50

So she was saying, thank you, Bryce Harper. This

27:53

is something I'll remember for the rest of my life, and

27:55

now I'm going to go spend the rest of my

27:57

time with this lovely man who got Bryce Harper to come

27:59

and be part of my doorstep. Wishing it was Bryce Harper.

28:01

That's not true. Wishing he was Bryce Harper. That's not

28:03

true. Bryce Harper is just a

28:05

very good guy and Philly respects good guys. Okay.

28:09

Have you ever had- And the Phillies

28:11

are playing really good baseball. Who

28:14

do they got next week? The Trenton Thunder? They're

28:16

playing the world champs, the reigning world

28:19

champs right now. Oh, let me see.

28:21

Pretty good. Alright. The reigning world

28:23

champs. Well, yeah, now they're under

28:25

500 because they lost the Fills. All these

28:27

teams lose the Fills and they go under

28:29

500. Yeah, yeah. Baseball, basically baseball has a

28:31

Philadelphia problem. All the teams are bad because

28:33

the Phillies keep beating all the time. Correct.

28:35

I don't, I think the Phillies are very

28:37

good. I just, like, Max has not been

28:39

able to say, like, good

28:41

win Fills without also saying, what

28:44

are the losers going to say? Well, that's,

28:46

I mean, well that every time anyone posts

28:48

anything about the Fills is if they haven't

28:51

played anyone's, it is crazy to have- Isn't

28:53

it annoying when people do that, Max? You

28:55

can only fucking play the teams in front

28:57

of you. Oh, fuck. Hank. Hank, he

29:00

got you when he said, Jason Tatum played like,

29:02

but now you're back. And he

29:05

also didn't. I said in the fourth quarter. He said in

29:07

the fourth quarter. And

29:09

he was also 25. Oh, so they have the Rangers, the Rockies. That will be

29:15

good. They haven't played a

29:17

team over 500 since opening weekend. How is

29:19

that possible? I

29:22

don't know. They still don't until

29:24

June. When a team loses to the Phillies,

29:26

they get beaten so badly. They get demoralized

29:28

and then they lose all their confidence and

29:30

they can't go on and win any more

29:32

games. 500 in the NL right now. Yeah,

29:35

but still- It's not really their fault. They're

29:37

playing the Rockies, the Giants and the Cardinals

29:40

coming up. Yeah. Yeah.

29:43

I don't know what you want me to say. Okay. But all

29:45

time good guy. All time good guy. Love

29:47

Bryce Harper. Bryce Harper is a great guy. Great guy.

29:49

I still kind of a weird move to have somebody

29:51

else come in. Why don't you come

29:54

on the show? It's not a weird move.

29:56

It's more of like a dumb move. Yeah.

29:58

Yeah. Short-sighted move. Like have- Bryce

30:00

Harper com and visit at be like hey

30:02

we've got a promise me if we go

30:04

to prom together Ah Bryce Harper com your

30:06

house. Yeah. That's good or anglers.

30:08

I did care or just would have Bryce record

30:11

a video. Yeah, okay will you go to prom

30:13

with the sky? Yeah yeah I did. Dinger for

30:15

you if you do. I like. My

30:18

cool thrown. Is Marvin Harrison

30:20

Junior. Because he is engaged

30:22

in a a big legal dispute right now,

30:25

I don't have seen the ongoing dispute with

30:27

them, but I saw had us. You can't

30:29

If you're caught on fan or anybody else

30:31

you, you can't buy a Marvin Harrison Junior

30:33

jersey. It. And the reason for this

30:35

is because he never signed with the Nfl yet.

30:38

And. The reason for that is. Back.

30:40

In college he was approached. A lot

30:42

of players get approached by fanatics. When

30:45

they're in college and they are as a

30:47

sign the rights over for like autograph sessions

30:49

merged things are deputies. College players can do

30:51

that now. Marvin Harrison Jr.

30:53

said no I'm not going sonos right now because

30:55

I think on my name is gonna be so

30:58

big when I'm a rookie. That. It

31:00

can be worth more than you're going on

31:02

for me as like a college sophomore, right?

31:04

which is probably accurate. Probably smart so he

31:06

didn't sign that then and then. They.

31:09

Are some side the Nfl p a thing

31:11

so they could now so more Bismarck He

31:13

said no I wanted to get the sound

31:15

do more negotiating on it and now fanatics

31:18

is suing Marvin Harrison Jr. Said.

31:20

They can start selling his jerseys. So.

31:22

They claim that Margaret Margaret Marvin Harrison

31:24

Junior signed. In. Our term seat

31:27

which is just basically peace paper saying like

31:29

I intend to do this Not a legally

31:31

binding contract. They. Claimed that

31:33

he signed that before the draft and that they should

31:35

be allowed to sell it. But. The bottom line

31:38

is you're not going to be able to buy

31:40

Marvin Harrison Jersey Marvin Harrison do New Jersey's in

31:42

stores for a very long time and is probably

31:44

not can be in video games either until and

31:46

it's is also a but once he does he's

31:49

probably I get paid shit load of money for

31:51

as Harper have to Very smart by him and

31:53

again I'm taking Marvin Harrison genocide in this one

31:55

hundred percent because his dad is Marva Jumps and

31:57

senior yes and I would not want to be.

32:00

engaged in any sort of dispute with that

32:02

family. Yeah. They're a great family. Yes. So,

32:04

but it does seem like he's figured out,

32:06

oh yeah, maybe we shouldn't sign these contracts

32:08

when we're college sophomores if we are planning,

32:11

if we're expecting to get drafted highly in

32:13

the NFL, signing like a five-year deal when

32:15

you're a college sophomore. Not the smartest thing

32:17

in the world. Was he at the rookie

32:20

thing where everyone was

32:22

in their jerseys running around? It

32:24

was like the first round picks.

32:26

Let me see. Marvin Harrison Jr. Probably not,

32:29

based off of him. Yeah, this. I'd

32:31

like to go in the trust tree for a second. Can

32:35

I say something with full

32:37

trust and can't be clipped? There's

32:42

something I'm going to have to get over, but it's

32:45

just years and years and years of this. The

32:50

minute Caleb Williams put in on the Bears uniform and they

32:52

had him like running around as a quarterback, he lost all

32:54

the swag. Yeah.

32:56

And that's the Bears uniform. You have to

32:58

overcome the entire fire. You've got to figure

33:00

out how to overcome the Bears quarterback uniform.

33:02

The entire vibe around it. Right. People were

33:04

tweeting about it like, dude, this guy's got

33:06

no swag anymore. I was like, shit, I

33:08

kind of agree. I think

33:10

he needs to do a visor, maybe some

33:12

kind of cool arm sleeve. I don't know

33:14

what it is, but it scared me because

33:16

it was like, again, it's not Caleb Williams.

33:19

It's the Bears uniform that

33:22

scared me. Yeah, there's only so many things you can

33:24

do. Well, just like I can't

33:26

envision someone like dropping back in a

33:29

Bears uniform and like throwing it down the field.

33:31

What about like pink shoes? That

33:33

would be cool. Pink shoes, maybe. Yeah. That's a

33:35

good idea. Marvin Harrison Jr. was invited to, did not

33:37

attend the rookie premiere. Hank,

33:39

speaking of which, did you see

33:42

that photo? Any thoughts on

33:44

your guy trying to steal a couple inches?

33:47

No, in respect, you got to take every inch in

33:49

the league. That's

33:52

true. It's game inches. Al Pacino taught us

33:55

that. Tippy toe shame. Well, the greatest NFL

33:57

coaches of all time. It happens. But

33:59

yeah. So the rookie premiere is

34:02

weird. They just stand out on a field right

34:04

and then they're just like look they're wearing their

34:06

you new uniforms Yeah, that's it. That's all it

34:08

is. Yeah, they like run around a

34:10

little bit. Yeah, the NFL monetize anything

34:12

Yeah, yeah, and everyone just yeah, and

34:14

then everyone just like and then dope climbing sweet

34:16

something Oh, did you guys see the fake news

34:18

going around about Joe burrow? There's fake

34:20

news about Joe burrow Yeah, the hair the hair. Yeah,

34:22

the hair went like mega viral and it was just

34:24

it was made up Why did anyone think that was

34:27

real? I never for a second thought I was right

34:29

Spotted a UFC fight like two weeks ago and he

34:31

had put it just still like yeah, I was the

34:33

fakest Yeah longer hair,

34:35

but it's that they literally just took Anakin

34:37

Skywalker. Yeah, right Thought

34:40

that was real. I don't he looked like it

34:42

like an early 90s sitcom actor. Yeah, like a

34:44

hair metal band guy Yeah, but then there was

34:46

also the cliff. He had a mullet. That would

34:48

be fucking sick I would be sick. There was

34:50

also the clip of my homes showing up to

34:52

the first day and people saying he looked fat

34:55

Mm-hmm. I don't think he looked fat. You look powerful. I

34:58

He also I feel like my homes

35:00

you can't call Patrick Mahomes fat When

35:03

you have three Super Bowl rings, whatever he's

35:05

doing is working. So just let him do

35:08

it Like that's not a guy

35:10

you can't you say oh a guy

35:12

looks fat showing up to camp if

35:14

they're like a second year Player that had

35:16

a disappointing first year. He needs to be

35:18

sitting next to any read for all these

35:20

things What are we talking about Patrick Holmes

35:22

fat and he's not fat and he's gonna play his way in a

35:24

shape That's what that's what that's what

35:26

training camps all about. Yeah, like Eddie Lacey when

35:28

he showed up that time He was fat. He

35:30

was big. Yeah, he was fat China food. That

35:32

was fat Did you not that

35:35

you have the whole summer to run around and lose

35:37

a couple pounds agreed and he also wasn't fat He

35:39

just he looked at a tight shirt. He

35:41

has a tight shirt. He's sure that he needs to

35:43

me and Max's shirts That we

35:45

can you know do this the Instagram shirts.

35:47

Yeah, we're just pulling on our shirts constantly

35:50

I'm getting a lot of those right now max all

35:52

the time and And also the

35:55

the best part about the the shirts you

35:57

buy on Instagram that hide your boobs allegedly

36:00

If you buy one shirt you also buy

36:04

7,000 emails for the next year and You

36:07

can't unsubscribe they figure out a way through

36:09

it and they're for other like fat related

36:11

products They just they just got you. They

36:13

just got you. That's what you're signing up for. All right my

36:16

hot seat is angry

36:19

birds Angry birds you

36:21

guys remember Angry Birds. Yeah, I replayed it like

36:23

six months ago. Yeah Angry Birds So this one

36:25

was crazy because I was it like a game

36:27

that you can finish Yeah,

36:29

there's a bunch of levels What

36:32

happens when you win? You win.

36:34

Yeah, so I

36:36

don't know why this is a top my turn this

36:39

morning when I woke up Very

36:41

weird angry birds account which has

36:43

seven hundred thousand followers Said

36:46

we sincerely apologize for an unfortunate

36:48

incident that occurred on our account

36:50

recently in an inappropriate post was

36:52

Accidentally reposted from the account. This

36:54

is a genuine mistake. We deeply

36:56

regret any harm It may have

36:58

caused huh? Streisand effect I

37:00

need to find out what was said. So here

37:03

was what they retweeted. This is the Angry Birds

37:05

account the game This

37:08

is from jellyquea

37:12

Said I used to jerk off to Angry Birds when I

37:14

was about 13. I loved Angry Birds I

37:16

had every game and bought every toy they had one

37:18

day I was playing Angry Birds when all of a

37:20

sudden the big red bird turned me on I couldn't

37:23

stand it I was going crazy. I decided to pull

37:25

and they retweeted I Did

37:27

not have Angry Birds on the bingo card.

37:29

I see no like I see no problem

37:31

in retweeting that that's that's somebody that loves

37:33

your game Like if

37:36

this podcast made people so horny that they had

37:38

to jack off to it. It's so I would

37:40

retweet all those endorsements Yeah, it's just

37:42

like Why why

37:44

are they even apologizing because then I immediately was like

37:46

what did Angry Birds do? Some

37:48

some kid admitted that he jacked off to Angry Birds

37:50

when he was 13 who cares? But

37:54

yeah, Angry Birds remember Angry Birds. It's a

37:56

fun game It's way they're

37:58

gonna top golf though. Remember we beat that Right

38:00

there was a movie. Oh,

38:02

that's right. Yeah, they did make a movie out of it. It's a

38:04

good jig I'd say it that was

38:06

one of those movies that came out like three years

38:08

after the game was popular What's your favorite bird from

38:11

the game? I don't I was

38:13

a tiny wings guy I still play tiny one.

38:15

It's a good one tiny wings is elite. I

38:18

think I like the red one I read one of

38:20

the stander. I honestly don't remember the different birds. You

38:22

remember yellow ones the boomerang The

38:25

big black bomb one that did a lot of

38:27

damage. Yeah on the level.

38:29

Yeah, remember flappy bird Yeah flat

38:31

the guy the guy got so stressed out that

38:34

he quit that he took it down Yeah,

38:36

cuz everyone was getting mad at him. I

38:38

don't remember that Oh, yeah, the game when there's like

38:40

a flappy bird 2.0. That was a big yeah Temple

38:43

run he I'm getting like that It was like

38:45

a really really hard game and he was getting

38:47

death threats and it was like the most popular

38:50

thing of all time And he

38:52

did and he just Deleted deleted the app

38:54

because he was too stressed out. Do you guys ever

38:56

play the running and T rex thing on Google? Like

38:59

when you don't have internet connection, you know how

39:01

like a T rex shows on like oh, we

39:03

don't have internet connection Did you know that that

39:05

you can play all right? Yeah, if you hit

39:07

spacebar you like just run through all these levels

39:10

and you jump Oh, that's awesome. It's actually great

39:12

game. I play tiny wings. I like

39:14

every flight still really I never

39:16

got into those games I was the old-school only one.

39:18

I mean snake was the greatest game ever created Brick

39:21

breaker probably I don't know

39:24

a year of my career My

39:26

former career was brick breaker just trying to beat it

39:28

and then I found out that when you beat it

39:30

You just go back to level one. It just goes

39:32

faster That was a bummer and then

39:35

snood snood rocked on the

39:37

computer Was nude it was like

39:39

nude was good I remember that when I was like

39:41

very blue guys that you had very young you had

39:43

to shoot When he

39:45

was very young, I'll show how young I

39:49

Was probably years old game. I'm old. All right.

39:51

We always say these guys don't know about Microsoft

39:53

pinball, you know about the one that came Oh,

39:55

yeah Snood

39:58

rocks. Yeah, but yeah The one that

40:00

came on like every PC. Yep. I would

40:03

play that when the internet would would

40:05

go out that and play and try and

40:07

like Every I don't know like

40:09

two months you get so bored. You'd be like

40:11

maybe solitaire is fun No, no, never fall tears

40:13

great and my twin the cards explode No, what

40:15

about the others not fun the other Microsoft one

40:18

will you find flick around? Yeah, I don't know

40:20

how to play that But I would just like

40:22

oh the one that were there a bomb like

40:24

you had that you had to figure out I

40:26

didn't know Just I would

40:28

do it. Oh my god This just fucking brought back

40:30

memory Did you guys ever play the game where the

40:33

guy you were the guy skiing down the hill and

40:35

then yeah? Yeah, we'll

40:37

jump or something. No, no, this

40:39

was like a addicting games or yeah No,

40:44

it was like you You

40:50

basically do like a you try not to

40:52

crash but no matter what Eventually

40:54

like the What

40:56

are you saying bomb in bob it

40:59

all indomitable? Abominable I'm gonna sue snowman

41:01

snowman would come out and just grab

41:03

you and that'll be it. What

41:05

was that game called? Might

41:08

be a Mount Rushmore back. I fucked on non

41:11

console game E3, what is that? I

41:13

don't know I'm looking at a I

41:17

Did you guys ever might be ski free play?

41:19

I was ski free and did you do it?

41:21

Yes? Yeah, there's the monster

41:23

that would come out. He would grab you

41:25

ski free was awesome. Oh Man,

41:28

I might have to play this game. Yeah,

41:30

this might be a Mount Rushmore Did you

41:32

get on like non your brain guys console

41:34

games like no Madden? No like yeah Java

41:36

cafe Addicting games comm did you play coop?

41:38

Oh? That game suck the

41:40

runner. Yeah, you had to get all

41:42

his body part If you can make

41:45

it three meters with that runner your

41:47

keyboard with backyard baseball work No

41:49

backyard baseball. I feel like that's too much. Yeah, who

41:51

similar to a console Yeah, and I was like a

41:54

game you'd buy in like a store. I think yeah,

41:57

no or like you had to buy

41:59

I No, I think you

42:01

did have to buy it. I think you had to buy

42:03

it. You had to buy CD-ROM. You had to get a

42:05

CD for it. These games you didn't have to get a

42:07

CD for. Max, Max, Dirtbike is the other... Max Dirtbike was

42:09

a good one. Max Dirtbike was great. Did

42:11

you... we had one that all of them

42:13

were blocked on our

42:16

school computers except for like... Slap the monkey. Like

42:18

it was like math games or something. Oh the

42:20

rocket? Cool math for kids. Cool math for kids.

42:23

And we would do lemonade stand. I remember. Yeah.

42:25

Yeah. Fresh lemonade stand at school.

42:27

Oh, I mean the goat with the TI-83 drug

42:29

wars. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh,

42:31

yeah. So good. Holy shit. That was Grand Theft Auto.

42:34

I sold so many ludes. Mario

42:36

teaches typing. Yeah. Mavis

42:38

Beacon. Mavis Beacon, not courage. M-J. Yeah.

42:42

Carmen, uh, Carmen Sandiego. Yeah.

42:45

Hot. Damn. Hot. Oh, hot

42:47

for sure. Agreed, Hank. Mavis Beacon. Hot? No,

42:50

I think Mavis Beacon was like an old goose. I

42:53

think she was like an elderly goose. So it could be

42:55

hot. Uh, how do

42:57

we get here? Oh, Angry Birds. See, yeah. See, yeah.

43:00

Angry Birds had to apologize. Somebody

43:02

jacked off to them when they were 13. My

43:05

cool throne is the Los

43:07

Angeles Chargers because

43:09

Jim Harbaugh is

43:11

starting the process of changing the culture. Our

43:13

friend Sam Schwartzstein reminded us, uh, or

43:16

told us the story when we had him on about

43:19

how when Harbaugh got to Stanford, he said, I

43:21

am going to, uh, have

43:23

to eliminate all traditions and things you

43:25

guys do because you're such losers. I

43:28

have to figure out what makes you losers. Uh,

43:31

the Chargers had no music at OTAs. Mm.

43:34

So Harbaugh took away music. That is maybe

43:37

the first thing he saw and was like, is

43:39

this why they're losers? We will find out. You have

43:41

to earn your music. Yeah. I

43:43

like that. I like that. No music. Whatever

43:45

was happening before was not working, so everything's going to

43:47

be different. It's a sound strategy. You

43:50

guys are losers. Let's figure out why. Mm-hmm. So

43:53

yeah, the Chargers, they're going to be good. Harbaugh

43:57

will be in an AFC championship game.

44:00

game over under 400 years

44:03

under I agree I

44:05

think it's like I'd said it for five things

44:08

we do it we think it's a three I think we'll do it in

44:10

the third or fourth year I think it's three yeah yeah

44:13

AFC championship game horrible be

44:16

there we'll be there all right Jake finish

44:18

off my hot seats the chain game our

44:21

friends on the sidelines might be losing their

44:23

jobs this football season no because

44:25

tonight the NFL announced it'll run

44:27

a trial throughout the preseason for

44:29

electronically yeah this is bad it

44:31

approves through the preseason is really

44:33

bad I go see so this

44:35

is bad and here's why every

44:38

time you watch a game you're like I can't believe

44:40

we're using sticks in a chain that's what makes it's

44:42

a billion-dollar business to figure out where the ball is

44:44

if it's a first down or not I

44:47

don't give a fuck the chain and the

44:49

stick is awesome it gives you

44:51

it's like another play it's a free play that you get

44:54

so if you're close if a team's close to get a

44:56

first down and you're like I don't know they bring the

44:58

chain out there and you get a first down the ref

45:00

signals it when they put the thing down you

45:03

feel like you just gained a yard right there you feel

45:05

like that's a huge win also if

45:07

you're rooting for the team that's on defense and you

45:09

get what you think is a stop you get to

45:11

celebrate it because you get to hold your fist

45:13

up and be like yeah we stopped you and

45:16

then the chain comes out no they didn't get

45:18

it the answer that's another of them running out

45:20

it's another stop all right it's one of the

45:22

weird things about football that makes no sense at

45:24

all and if we were starting football from scratch

45:26

right now yeah there's no chance in hell that

45:28

there would be three old

45:30

guys with sticks in a chain that run out

45:32

on the field to measure things it would be

45:34

electronic if we're starting football from ground zero but

45:37

that's what we love about football is the

45:39

weird shit right yeah did

45:41

know this is bad yes we need we

45:44

need like Chinese or

45:46

Russian hackers to hack the

45:48

electronic ones yes we

45:50

need something to happen to malfunction

45:53

We can't lose the chain chain game. Fly

45:55

like an EMP drone over the over the

45:57

electronic system. Make it fuck up. We can't

45:59

have. We cannot. Hopefully the

46:01

Nfl has people and maybe maybe are takes

46:03

bad maybe people don't like it's a very

46:05

be no no no this know I think

46:08

I think I'm right. Pfc Arctic is correct.

46:10

Side is is something that you would never

46:12

see in a modern game that was invented.

46:14

But. It makes it feel so much more

46:16

real because of human beings that are doing

46:18

it and not a fucking Ai system that

46:21

soon because ghz even clowney hit. That's not

46:23

cool if we don't have changing coming out

46:25

doing the thing. Yeah, Yeah.

46:27

That was the guy. what was the

46:29

Earth or or Dns? cardiac met another

46:31

told him not to do that anymore,

46:34

but it still happened. And it happened.

46:36

because the changing. Yeah I yeah, this

46:38

is bad. It is very bad idea.

46:40

I hope they don't change it. I really have

46:42

the Nazis. To. The Us Military

46:44

a preseason insult evasion. I am on

46:47

my boycott Some of the bruises. No

46:50

other last game. Last game.

46:53

They. Don't bring. Me? maybe yeah

46:55

but as football he was there last game

46:57

on that point we're just star for the

46:59

remember that last game always happens when there's

47:01

like real college football blinds. I'm going to

47:04

boycott the second quarter of one of the

47:06

games in week three over. Right

47:09

you? You have our demands. Twenty four hours or

47:11

spawn are full. Of my

47:13

cool thrown is getting hit by cel

47:15

balls. Usually it's a bad thing but

47:17

this Blue Jays and she took one

47:20

hundred and ten mile our foul of

47:22

both that he depicts. yes I have

47:24

a bad take a bias but the

47:26

suicide selling one hundred and ten cards

47:29

of her and is. The damage

47:31

it's crazy to. she took a like a champ. I've

47:34

bad take about the shit injured. Sheer.

47:37

The block I and she the giant America

47:39

shit a huge hematoma those swelling out for

47:41

forehead it was massive she looks like that

47:43

I was or out rose their said was

47:45

that you have see voice you wearing. Removes.

47:48

It was crazy. It was crazy though.

47:50

She's of hers is easily as oh

47:53

my god Yeah, it's crazy. Oh.

47:56

my god well she's sitting She

48:00

looks like JFK. Alright,

48:04

I'm gonna keep my bad teeth. There it is. Okay. He

48:08

has crazy. Off the phone in your car. Is there a video

48:10

of the foul ball? I

48:12

thought it was kind of lame to beg for a

48:14

ball after. I mean, look at that.

48:16

I did. I just, I, yeah, but I don't know. I just saw it

48:18

and I was like, okay. That sucks. She

48:20

should have gotten a ball in the moment. Yeah,

48:22

I mean, someone should have probably come over to

48:24

her. Right. Right. But then to like wait a

48:26

day and be like, hey, I didn't get a

48:28

ball. Give me a ball. Yeah, it's just kind

48:30

of, I don't know. It's common courtesy that if,

48:32

if you catch that ball, if it lands next

48:34

to you after bouncing off her head, you

48:37

treat it like it's like an athlete

48:39

throwing a ball to a child in the stands. You

48:41

catch it and you give the ball to that person

48:43

that got hit. Yeah. In the moment. Yeah. She should

48:45

have gotten the ball in the moment, but once the moment

48:47

passes, it's like, hey, guess what? No

48:50

ball. I don't want to earn it. I don't

48:52

like, I don't like her being on a baseball ball. I don't like

48:54

free, I don't like free, like you don't get the free ball. She

48:57

also got a ball in her head.

48:59

Jesus Christ. Also her name's Liz McGuire.

49:01

I, I'll say this, she is way

49:03

tougher than I am because I would

49:05

fucking, I would have had

49:08

a stretcher take me out. No chance I would

49:10

have stayed there. It looks like she has a

49:12

baseball, like the baseball went under her skin and

49:14

is attached to her forehead. How, where did she

49:16

get it? Where is the video? Also, where did,

49:18

yeah, where was she sitting? I

49:20

need to know where she was sitting. Wait, wait, wait, I didn't even

49:22

get the ball. Lady who eventually got the ball that ricocheted off my

49:24

face wouldn't give us the ball. That woman's the

49:27

worst woman ever. Mm-hmm. Okay, that woman is

49:29

the worst woman ever. You have to give

49:31

the ball with

49:33

the section chain and give her the ball. Wait,

49:35

so this- Alright, I'm back on Liz's side. You

49:37

know what, you know what though, here's the thing.

49:39

She shouldn't have tweeted the Blue Jays. She should

49:41

have found that lady's at, and

49:44

ended her life. So that, this

49:46

lady Liz gets hit in the head with

49:48

a 110 mile an hour ball. Correct. And

49:52

she stays at the game For

49:54

the rest of the game. For The rest

49:56

of the game? As Another woman takes the

49:58

ball and leaves as the- Second chance, give

50:00

her the ball so what would you have got

50:03

would you tweet the next day being like hey

50:05

I got hit in the head, Can I have

50:07

a ball? I would I honestly. Think

50:10

I would use try to find the woman who saw

50:12

the ball and try to end her life. Yes it

50:14

doesn't seem like she's begging for the ball. That sweet

50:16

was younger he was like the up the of read

50:19

on a bed ridden sweet. It was like can you

50:21

hook a girl up. Pretty. Good way to do

50:23

it. but yeah I think her. Her. Anger of

50:25

she has any should be reserves that rarely for the

50:27

woman I would have out of the i'm gonna that

50:29

would the ball yeah would have been like i'm gonna

50:32

find you what oh matter what walked around the streets

50:34

of the cudgel until he saw as yeah yeah but

50:36

you're fucking done. Also wears you

50:38

get hit because like or not I know

50:40

was got hit in the head but where's

50:42

the sitting users nets everywhere now how do

50:44

you get hit with a hundred and ten

50:47

mono of like a deep solve all line

50:49

drive outfield like those back sections. And

50:51

all territory. I don't know if those are

50:53

now. I'd like to see a replay of

50:55

the of the boy said my god I

50:58

just I would like to see what would

51:00

you know which would try to make catch

51:02

Mrs Totally fair. Was. Looking.

51:04

I don't know. I. I

51:07

have her side. I just wish he had tried

51:09

to. Strike vengeance with

51:11

this woman. This scumbag who took her

51:13

ball. That's a bullshit day. There

51:17

was a crazy for him that's a crazy

51:19

him until is so big. As

51:22

this era hear. The

51:25

tone of those eight. Hours.

51:28

Of footage is what was that in the middle? down

51:30

the middle. Third that I've

51:32

seen phobos I was in or him it's

51:34

own like that since I have sinned rock

51:37

since Rothmans. Ah the boxer member that one

51:39

knows like it was one and you have

51:41

see couple years your was a thug rose

51:43

yeah. Harbaugh. I

51:46

don't really get a video. Yeah.

51:48

What does she just was Just sell

51:50

a lot of the broadcast don't panda

51:52

foul balls lesser close to being. Set.

51:55

Unfair terrorists territory. Yeah, what if this

51:57

never happened? And the Blue Jays? She's

51:59

like. marketing plant. Oh,

52:02

days are giving her a ball to get all the good

52:04

and that that thing on her forehead is

52:07

all stage makeup. We're on the internet too

52:09

much. Yes. Yeah. Alright, so my final ruling

52:11

is I'm a back Liz McGuire.

52:14

I wish she had not asked for a free ball. I

52:16

wish she instead had tried to end this person's life. That's

52:20

fair, right? Yeah. Um,

52:22

Oh, no, it would have been better if she asked

52:24

the blue jays to find that woman.

52:26

Yeah. Hey, I heard it. I got hit in

52:28

the head. I didn't get the ball. Unfortunately, somebody

52:30

else caught it. Is there any chance that you

52:32

can have her killed? I yeah, that would have

52:34

been good. All right. So yeah, that's the final

52:36

answer is that her tweet, she should

52:39

have said, when she said, Can

52:41

you hook me up? It should have been

52:43

Can you hook me up with all the

52:45

information of this fan so that we can

52:47

enter. Yeah, with her home address, her work

52:49

address, and a semi

52:52

automatic. Yeah. Okay, so good

52:55

hot sequel. Throw them guys. Let's get some

52:57

interviews. We got Xander Shoffley and Brian Winhorse and

52:59

then we're gonna finish with pardon your take and

53:01

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we now welcome on a very, very special

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54:30

major victory, the PGA champion Xander

54:32

Schauffele is joining us. The

54:35

trophy is in his background. It looks great.

54:38

I also wanna say, Xander, your hat tan line

54:40

is starting to look a little bit better too.

54:44

When you won the, we wanna

54:46

talk about everything, but when

54:48

you took off your hat, did you know in the back

54:50

of your head, you're like, oh, this is, I've been playing a

54:53

lot of golf in the sun recently and I'm like a Stewart

54:55

Cink out here. Damn, I

54:57

didn't know I entered that legendary

54:59

status. Yeah,

55:02

I'm made aware. Don't worry, I don't

55:04

get away with much with my team.

55:06

So my caddy told me, I

55:08

took my, or he shaved my head and while he

55:11

was shaving my head, he was like, damn, dude. I

55:13

was like, what? It

55:16

was perfect. I mean, that's always, that always happens

55:18

with a major champion too. It's like something,

55:21

they win and then everyone's like, oh, how can we

55:23

roast his outfit or something just to make ourselves feel

55:25

better? But I wanna go back to 18 and that

55:27

putt. What

55:31

were you thinking before that putt and

55:33

were you like, this is, it

55:35

was obviously not super far, but

55:38

what was going through your head when you're lining up that putt

55:40

and about to hit it? Yeah, I was nervous.

55:42

I mean, it was a bad spot. I

55:45

walked up, I saw left to right. I

55:47

saw like left edge, left center. I kept

55:49

reading it and I saw like right edge,

55:51

right center. And then I was like, this

55:53

is not good. And then I

55:55

was like, I can't call Austin in. It's gonna make me

55:57

like doubt myself more. So I kind of was. I

56:00

just, I was like, screw it. I need

56:02

to commit to this. And so I actually didn't take that much

56:04

time because I was like the more, longer I look at this,

56:06

the more, more stuff I'm going to see. So I was nervous.

56:09

I just ended up hitting it pretty straight. I

56:11

actually, my putting coach texted me. He's like, he

56:13

pulled it. And I was like, thanks man. He's

56:17

right. You know, I watch it. I mean, I've

56:19

watched that putt now like six times and it

56:21

looks, it looks like it's going

56:23

to miss every time. Yeah. So yeah. And

56:25

I've been being a fantastic putt under pressure

56:27

and the shot, I think there's two shots

56:29

before that where you're standing in the bunker,

56:32

your feet are in the bunker and you're

56:34

hitting the shot. It's it's elevated. You

56:36

and your caddy had a little talk before that shot

56:38

and the mics picked up some of it. And

56:40

it sounded like your caddy was saying, yeah, you know what? If

56:43

you end up hitting that into the bunker, that's

56:45

not a bad shot. It's a good place to be. And I

56:47

thought I saw you give him a look like, Hey, don't, don't

56:49

say that. It's okay. If I hit the shot into

56:52

the bunker. But when he's guiding you

56:54

through that shot, like, are you, are you

56:56

angry with him in the, in the moment for being like,

56:58

don't even introduce the concept of a bunker to me? No,

57:00

no. He was, he was talking about that middle bunker. He

57:02

was like, cause I was like, you know, I want to

57:04

aim really far right. And I was like, if I hit

57:06

on the right side of the green, no problem. And then

57:08

he was like, I actually hit it on

57:10

the left side of the green. It's easier. And

57:12

I kind of looked at him. I was like, is it? But

57:14

then I was like, I don't know if I should, you know,

57:16

I don't want to think that hard. I, one of my goals

57:18

was to keep it simple. So, you know, he's my caddy. I

57:20

pay him to give me good advice. And so he gave me

57:22

good advice. So I aim kind of, I aim

57:25

far right. Obviously. Cause I'm hitting like a baseball stance,

57:27

a golf shot, but, uh, I

57:29

pulled it left of that middle bunker. And then luckily

57:32

it didn't go into that left bunker. Cause I would

57:34

have been a hard up and down. Yeah. And as

57:36

you're playing that hole, is the thought in your head,

57:38

like, I don't want to get into a playoff where

57:41

the playoff hole will be a par five and I'm

57:43

going up against Bryson. I

57:46

mean, absolutely. I actually, I

57:48

didn't even know, uh, the playoff is

57:50

actually an aggregate. It's three holes. Oh,

57:53

oh. Yeah. I know. That

57:56

and that's, yeah, that's just way more pressure. So, I mean,

57:58

it's just, it's just a lot. Yeah. the

58:00

momentum would be like, you know, he birdies the

58:02

last hole. I mess up the

58:04

last hole and don't clutch up.

58:06

And then here I am like in a playoff,

58:08

like where I feel like I shouldn't be. So

58:10

I just was in

58:13

like a season moment situation and luckily that

58:15

ball lived in. Yeah. Could you tell, was

58:17

there anything that you could tell that was

58:19

different about this last round? Cause you obviously

58:21

you're an unbelievable golfer and you've been in

58:23

these big moments and come just short a

58:25

bunch, but like that last round,

58:28

I thought the, the bogey on 10

58:30

when it like the leaderboard switches

58:33

and it's like, that's the moment you're like,

58:35

Oh, is this going to fall apart? And then

58:37

you come back and go birdie birdie. Could, was

58:39

there something different about Sunday that you just like

58:41

had a confidence to you or some, some feel

58:43

to it? Like this is mine. Yeah,

58:45

I know for sure. I mean, I, I, I had

58:48

that sentiment, you know, I was,

58:50

I was good all day about committing, I sustained

58:52

my process, you know, all that nonce, all that,

58:55

uh, cliche stuff, but I

58:57

get to 10 and I'm kinda like, I don't know how I

58:59

want to hit this chip and then I ended up hitting the

59:01

chip. I didn't really want to hit. And then I F it

59:04

up and I make bogey and I, you

59:06

know, I get to 11 and I was like, I need to hit a

59:08

good shot, hit a great shot. I get up to the, the, the, the

59:10

putt and I look up at the board and it says I'm in second

59:12

and I was like, damn, you know, I

59:14

was like, how am I in second? Like one hole ago

59:16

I was leading now I'm in second. So everyone,

59:19

I knew everyone was birdie ahead of me and the

59:21

big difference was, was, was just that, I mean, I,

59:23

I had this. Overwhelming feeling

59:25

of sort of not, not, not today, you know,

59:27

like I've been in this spot too many times

59:29

in the last two years where I've

59:32

sort of, you know, curled up

59:34

a little bit and got a little like defensive.

59:36

And so I just

59:39

said, screw it. Like I need to, I need to earn

59:41

this. I need to win this. I need to stay aggressive because

59:43

guys are making birdies and I need to be one of

59:45

those guys. And so that's what I did. Yeah. Did you do

59:47

anything different for breakfast or for your meal, like a quick

59:49

snack during your round that, that maybe

59:51

switched up the vibes for you this time? No,

59:53

just it was, it was a lot of self-talk vibes

59:56

that were different. Yeah. It's

59:58

like confidence building stuff. Like, yeah,

1:00:00

I mean, I always, yeah, I always am

1:00:02

like pretty, pretty confident. And I always am

1:00:04

pretty like, you know, comfortable

1:00:07

in, in these spots, but I just. Something

1:00:10

was, something was different this time around. I really felt

1:00:12

like it was my time. It was like, it was

1:00:14

my time to shine. Like after last week happened, that

1:00:16

was a big letdown for me. You know, I got

1:00:18

beat, uh, he played way better than

1:00:20

I did. I didn't give him any pressure. It was that kind

1:00:22

of, it was like those last seven holes were like to

1:00:25

be in a, in a final group on Sunday and to have

1:00:27

like the first nine holes, feeling like you're going to win the

1:00:29

tournament. And then like two holes later, you're playing the last seven

1:00:32

holes, feeling like you have zero chance to win a tournament is

1:00:34

like an awful feeling when you've pretty much like

1:00:36

led a tournament for the entire week. So I

1:00:40

know that feeling and I really didn't want to have

1:00:42

that feeling again. So I just had to sack up.

1:00:44

Yeah. And then, then you celebrate and you, it looked

1:00:46

like a pretty fun celebration. I saw you drinking out

1:00:48

of the trophy. I feel like you have to do that.

1:00:50

What was the first thing that you poured into the trophy? Austin

1:00:53

poured some cheap champagne into it

1:00:55

and everyone was yelling at him. And I looked

1:00:57

around and I'm like, where

1:00:59

are we going to get nicer champagne? And everyone's like, ah,

1:01:01

right. So we all just ended up drinking it. It

1:01:04

was like Andre. I don't

1:01:06

even know. It was started with a

1:01:08

K. Oh, I have no, I mean, I was, I

1:01:10

was drinking. They, the, I remember at Val

1:01:12

Hall, it was nice. He gave me cigars. He gave me

1:01:14

whiskey. Um, it was,

1:01:17

it was a night where I know I don't, I don't, I normally

1:01:19

don't drink too much, but you know, it had

1:01:21

to be done. Yeah. All right. I got a dumb question for

1:01:23

you. Um, and don't take offense to

1:01:25

this, but do you feel like you

1:01:28

robbed us a little bit of, uh, being

1:01:30

the guy who can't win the big one

1:01:32

as like media people? We love being

1:01:34

like, oh, that guy can't win the big one. You kind

1:01:36

of won the big one a little too early. I need

1:01:38

another like five years. Do you want me to, you

1:01:41

want me to bathe in my own shit for another

1:01:43

five years? Yeah. Because that's our favorite storyline. Huh? Great

1:01:45

golfer can't win the big one. Phil was like that

1:01:47

for a long time. Yeah. Did you, did you kind

1:01:50

of, Sergio? Yeah. Did you rob us? Yeah. You know

1:01:52

what? I did. Yeah. So

1:01:54

maybe apologize. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, you're,

1:01:56

you're honest. At least you're honest. You

1:01:58

know, you're in this one. You're in the year. in this line of

1:02:00

work and you're one of the honest ones to

1:02:02

say that, you know, everyone else is like, Oh,

1:02:04

I'm so happy for you. Yeah. Yeah.

1:02:07

They're thinking in the background, the back of their head,

1:02:09

they're like, Oh, we had so many more stories. Like,

1:02:11

you know, like we could have done a big, you

1:02:13

know, feature on Zander being like Ken Zander win the

1:02:15

big one. Now that you robbed them, you

1:02:18

put food off their table. Yeah. Listen,

1:02:20

Dan Marino has, has served that role. Very

1:02:23

importantly, I would say for NFL media, for the

1:02:25

rest of his life, right? The

1:02:27

amount of stories, the amount of things that people got to

1:02:29

say now it's like, okay, yes, and I guess, I

1:02:32

guess he proved us wrong. Now we actually have to be

1:02:34

creative and do something interesting with our job and try to

1:02:37

actually dig into something deeper behind the, besides

1:02:39

the fact that this guy just hasn't won

1:02:41

a major yet. Yeah. Yeah.

1:02:44

I mean, I got to talk to you about someone

1:02:46

else. Well, I just realized we played ourselves because I

1:02:48

was thinking like, who's the next can't win the big

1:02:51

one guy. And we'll just say that no guy will

1:02:53

win a big one. No, it's not him. No. He's

1:02:56

talking about Max. Yeah. He's going

1:02:58

to win a big one. Do you think Max has what it takes to

1:03:00

win a big one? Of course. Yeah.

1:03:03

I mean, if you're a top player in the world, I think all those

1:03:05

guys, I mean, you just, I am

1:03:08

like, I can do an interview on close calls.

1:03:10

So like I, I know better than anyone else,

1:03:12

what it's like to just sit on the other

1:03:14

side of the fence, like with pretty much your

1:03:16

entire body over and you're just like, what, why

1:03:18

am I not on the other side of this thing completely?

1:03:20

And so, you know, you just, you need some things to

1:03:22

go your way. You need a good break. You need to

1:03:24

be in the better way. Like all those small things add

1:03:26

up and then at the end of the day, like you just

1:03:29

need to really take advantage of the moment and, you know,

1:03:31

put yourself in a position enough times. Like

1:03:33

I said, I mean, I know that better than anyone else. You're going to,

1:03:36

you're going to, I kept saying knock,

1:03:38

knock on that door until you fricking bust that

1:03:40

thing down. I just need to, I need a

1:03:42

damn battering ram to do it. Yeah. And

1:03:45

what you did on Sunday was incredible because it

1:03:47

felt like, you know, Big Cat talked about when

1:03:49

you, when you lost the lead momentarily and then

1:03:51

Bryson hits his, his ball off a tree and

1:03:54

it bounces perfectly into the middle of the

1:03:56

fairway. I heard about any birdies. I heard

1:03:58

about that. Yeah. I felt

1:04:00

like, okay, the gods are just stacked against Zander

1:04:02

right now. You see that stuff. Yeah, like when

1:04:04

I won the Travelers, I hit this ball towards

1:04:07

out of bounds and it hit and then hit

1:04:09

off like, you know, there's like a fence post like

1:04:12

every four feet. It hit off one of the

1:04:14

fence posts and then kicked back in play and

1:04:16

I'm like, that was my break, you know, like

1:04:18

from the golf gods. But then, you

1:04:20

know, I hear about Bryson doing this and it's like, I'm

1:04:22

sure everyone watching was like, oh my gosh,

1:04:24

like this is his break. Like this is what you need to

1:04:26

win a tournament. So it's

1:04:30

fortunately, you know, fortunately went my way. Yeah. Have you

1:04:32

gone back and watched your final round yet? No,

1:04:34

I haven't. I've just seen the pot, you know, six

1:04:37

times now, I think. Yeah, I would do that. I

1:04:39

would do that if I were you. I would just

1:04:41

sit there and watch my entire championship winning round. Yeah.

1:04:44

Sit on the couch like everybody else. Yeah, for sure.

1:04:46

I mean, you don't seem like a guy that would

1:04:48

do something like that, but. What, win a championship? I

1:04:52

would just have it be playing on loop forever for

1:04:54

the rest of my life. Yeah. You

1:04:56

walk into my house and you have to watch the final

1:04:58

round. You have no choice. Oh

1:05:00

man. You go to a download the

1:05:03

MP3 of just the announcers and I just

1:05:05

have it in my car all the time. Yeah. Yeah.

1:05:07

Oh, I would be a terrible champion. Yeah. Xander,

1:05:09

I. This is a star winner. Yeah. I

1:05:12

got a question about your dad who seems like

1:05:14

an all time figure. He's your swing coach, been

1:05:17

your swing coach your entire life. That's

1:05:19

nice of you to give him a job. He

1:05:22

also, I read that he watched,

1:05:25

he didn't even watch you win this tournament.

1:05:27

He was in a shipping container in Hawaii

1:05:30

because he's building a family compound. So

1:05:32

that alone, like what happened there?

1:05:34

And then I have a follow up question. Yeah.

1:05:37

So a lot of that is true. He's

1:05:39

been my coach for forever. I

1:05:42

actually ended up hiring Chris Como in

1:05:44

November. We've been working together since November

1:05:47

of last year. And

1:05:49

so I've known Chris for quite some time. Had

1:05:51

a mutual friend that kind of introduced us. And

1:05:55

so my dad knows Chris pretty well. He, Chris did like a

1:05:57

little golf channel thing with us when he was working with them.

1:06:00

And so my dad just

1:06:02

felt comfortable. He was like, you know, I don't, you

1:06:05

know, he's always going to be, you know, he's always going to be

1:06:07

my dad. But in terms of like the golfing capacity, he

1:06:09

sort of passed the torch over to Chris and he

1:06:11

felt like, you know, there's no need for him to

1:06:13

be there if, you know, I'm there with, you know,

1:06:16

the rest of my team. So he

1:06:18

is he is definitely a character. His

1:06:20

nickname is the Ogre. We

1:06:23

can get into why that is. But why is that?

1:06:25

Yeah. Tell us. It

1:06:27

is pretty self explanatory. All

1:06:29

right. So here's so how is

1:06:32

the Ogre though? I've seen pictures of him. He's

1:06:34

always wearing like linen and cool hats. He seems

1:06:36

like he's like right out of a Tommy Bahama

1:06:38

like catalog. Yeah. But he's the Ogre.

1:06:41

He's the I mean, the Ogre is more of

1:06:44

a he he

1:06:47

he handles he handles

1:06:49

conversations and tough,

1:06:52

tough, I guess, situations and in an

1:06:54

Ogre fashion. You know, he's not afraid

1:06:56

to get he's not going to

1:06:58

get in your face. Yeah. Like

1:07:01

like that. He's like he's like that

1:07:03

growing up too. So he's been consistent on that

1:07:05

front. Well, so that was my other question because

1:07:07

I heard this story and it's a hilarious story.

1:07:10

Your dad was your swing coach or is your swing

1:07:12

coach your entire life and

1:07:14

he would not let you watch your own

1:07:16

swing until you were 17 or 18 and

1:07:18

even threatened your friends to be like, if

1:07:20

you show him a video of his own

1:07:23

swing, like you're going to be in trouble.

1:07:25

Yeah. Is that true?

1:07:27

Yeah. Kids are like, you know, kids are

1:07:29

like, I'll be like, dude, look,

1:07:31

come on, let me like, I need to see what's

1:07:33

going on. Like, you know, I don't feel good about

1:07:35

this. And they're like, no, sorry, man. I can't get

1:07:37

someone else to do it. That's

1:07:39

incredible. So why did he not want you to see

1:07:41

your own swing? He just was like, you

1:07:43

know, there's no he's like, one, you're not going

1:07:45

to know what you're looking at. Two, he's like,

1:07:48

you're going to try and be too perfect. So he's like,

1:07:50

what's the point in you looking at your swing and, you

1:07:52

know, you know, making you want to lose your freaking mind.

1:07:55

And so he's kind of right. You know, sometimes I look at my swing now

1:07:57

and I'm like, well, you know, I have Chris to

1:07:59

talk to. about my swing in the videos, but

1:08:02

sometimes I look at my swing and I'm like, I mean, it looks fine to

1:08:04

me. And they're like, no, you're doing that

1:08:06

wrong. And I'm like, I mean, I guess you're right.

1:08:08

Like I didn't see that, but sure. So we just

1:08:10

let the pros handle that. Yeah, that's a smart move.

1:08:12

Like when you're 16, 17, your

1:08:15

swing is built up in your mind's eye. You have

1:08:17

it like pictured in your own head what it looks

1:08:19

like. And then if you see it, it's like hearing

1:08:21

the sound of your own voice. And

1:08:23

you're like, oh my God. It's like eating, yeah.

1:08:25

It's like, you see yourself running, you see yourself

1:08:27

getting interviewed, you see yourself throwing something, you feel

1:08:30

like you're Jason Bourne in this situation. And

1:08:32

you see a clip of it and you're like, wow.

1:08:35

Yeah, I got a lot of work. Yeah, people are

1:08:38

roasting me online for my back thing. I got to

1:08:40

fix something so it looks better. Yeah, it's tough. I

1:08:42

just love the idea that he told all your friends,

1:08:44

like do not show him his own swing. And you're

1:08:46

just walking around being like, will someone let me see

1:08:48

my swing? I did

1:08:50

see a picture of him. He's got your gold medal, or at

1:08:52

least he did. Does he still have it? Yeah,

1:08:55

yeah. So I mean, I have this, I got

1:08:57

this puppy right here just for the moment. It's

1:09:00

gonna go back to the West Coast. My parents are like the

1:09:02

safekeepers of my trophies. And so they're

1:09:04

probably gonna party way harder than I did with this thing

1:09:06

to be, they're gonna go around town in San Diego and

1:09:08

let everyone drink out of it if I had to guess.

1:09:10

I love that. Yeah, your dad posted kind

1:09:12

of a thirst trappy picture of him wearing

1:09:15

the gold medal, just wearing like a

1:09:17

swimsuit, flexing. Your dad's throwing

1:09:19

his shit. It's a speedo. Yeah,

1:09:21

he's got that old man string. I

1:09:26

don't know how I feel about it anymore. He's getting, he's gonna turn 60 this

1:09:28

year. So I'm sure I could take him at

1:09:30

some point. This is another

1:09:32

dumb question for you. It's something that we're planning

1:09:34

on doing here because we saw John Daly's round

1:09:36

on Thursday where it was reported that he smoked

1:09:38

two packs of cigarettes, had a

1:09:40

couple of cokes and I think four Snickers

1:09:42

bars. We're gonna try to do the John

1:09:44

Daly challenge. Do you think that's possible for

1:09:46

us as a podcast to smoke 40 cigarettes?

1:09:49

And obviously the two cokes is

1:09:51

fine. Max takes care of that in about five minutes. And

1:09:54

the Snickers bar, do you think it's possible for a non-smoker,

1:09:57

mere mortal not named John Daly?

1:09:59

daily to accomplish that feat? I

1:10:03

mean, it just depends on what's on the line. Nothing.

1:10:06

Right. Yeah. Just

1:10:08

us embarrassing ourselves. Just the ability to say like- That's a lot. Yeah.

1:10:11

That's a lot. I mean, that's- I don't know. Usually

1:10:13

when someone tells me I can't do it, I usually get it done. So,

1:10:16

it may take me longer than others, but you know,

1:10:18

if you tell me I can't smoke four cigarettes in

1:10:20

a day, I mean, I might need

1:10:22

an IV and a hospital treatment

1:10:24

after that, but I think three or four of you

1:10:27

guys can rip through some heaters. I'm a big deal.

1:10:31

Yeah. Did you have a chance to talk

1:10:33

to Scotty at any point this weekend? Because

1:10:35

he kind of cucked you a little bit with

1:10:37

the storylines being like, I got arrested

1:10:40

and you just won your first major. Did you have any

1:10:42

chance to talk to him? It was the craziest story. Yeah.

1:10:45

Yeah, I did. You know, he

1:10:48

handled it really well in Scotty's shuffler fashion. I mean, he's

1:10:50

a good dude. As soon as I saw it, I mean,

1:10:52

I won. I thought it was a prank and then I

1:10:54

saw it on news and I was like, holy smokes, this

1:10:56

actually happened. He's, you

1:11:00

know, I hope he comes out. It's it feels like he's

1:11:02

going to come out like OK from all this. It feels

1:11:04

like things are going to get dropped. I don't know. But

1:11:07

he's he took it like a champ and we're all

1:11:09

giving him, you know, we have like

1:11:11

a we have a group chat, you know, with our physio or

1:11:14

our team or crew, it's like me,

1:11:16

Gary, JT, Jordan, Scotty, Pat. We all

1:11:18

share the same physio. So the

1:11:21

boys were heckling Scotty a little bit. Yeah,

1:11:24

just enough. Yeah, you got to change the

1:11:26

picture of that group chat to the mugshot.

1:11:29

Obviously, that happened. Yeah,

1:11:32

that's good. I actually think that's what I want

1:11:35

my boys to do if I if I got

1:11:37

arrested for not a really serious thing, just being

1:11:39

right. Yeah, let's roast them. That's how you know

1:11:41

you have real friends, right? Right. Yeah. I was

1:11:44

thinking that the day that he got arrested, it

1:11:46

was actually tougher for everybody else

1:11:49

playing, not Scotty, because Scotty

1:11:51

is riding off the adrenaline. It's fun to get

1:11:53

arrested sometimes. And you're like, okay, sweet. Let's go

1:11:56

to the golf course, whatever. I'm out. I'm relieved.

1:11:58

Everybody else is playing thinking like. Holy

1:12:00

shit, I can't believe Scotty Scheffler got arrested

1:12:02

for felony assault on the police officer Like

1:12:04

that that screws with everybody else's brain out

1:12:06

there, too Perverse psychology

1:12:08

there. Yeah, maybe I mean he he and

1:12:10

I mean he's shoot he played he's had

1:12:13

66 coming out of jail So, I mean

1:12:15

that's like it's pretty crazy. It's legendary. Yeah.

1:12:17

Yeah. Yeah I mean, I don't think

1:12:19

anyone else can say that no one else on tour

1:12:21

is being able to do that one So, I mean

1:12:23

he's he's definitely he's he's at the top of the

1:12:25

mountain for several reasons All right. I got another dumb

1:12:27

question for you. Have you seen real bros? Asimi Valley

1:12:30

no All right.

1:12:32

So the main character is zander It's

1:12:35

actually zonder Is how he pronounces

1:12:37

it but that's like that's one too of

1:12:39

zanders. I don't really know any others Yeah,

1:12:42

I guess that's why I i've heard some guys yelling

1:12:44

my name Yelling zonder and

1:12:46

I just I knew it

1:12:48

was from something and I just I my one of

1:12:50

my roommates was from simi valley So I I guess

1:12:53

i'm not too surprised. Yeah. Yeah, you got to watch

1:12:55

it. It's very very funny. It is How

1:12:57

did you make that decision to go by zander

1:12:59

not alexander? Well, my dad's

1:13:01

german, uh, if you've never heard him speak

1:13:03

so My name is

1:13:06

alexander, but like when he would yell at me as

1:13:08

a kid, it just sounded like sanda, you know like

1:13:10

a german dude I

1:13:13

never realized how like aggressive my dad's accent is

1:13:16

until all my friends are like dude. Your dad's

1:13:18

like really german Just

1:13:21

grew up listening to me yelled at by this dude

1:13:23

and then all of a sudden, you know removed from

1:13:25

him I'm like, yeah, he does sound pretty weird. I'm

1:13:27

not gonna lie. Yeah, it's an awesome name. It's like

1:13:29

very unique and cool Yeah, yeah I

1:13:32

mean easy, you know x x is nice.

1:13:34

It's simple. Yeah, throw the x go

1:13:36

and give it to you Yeah, did you yeah,

1:13:39

did you have I would imagine? um,

1:13:41

you go online after whatever after you

1:13:43

party and everything and uh, did

1:13:45

you have just a million people being like I

1:13:48

bet on you every tournament and finally did it for me because

1:13:50

I feel like that was Like a

1:13:52

lot of people were like, yes, i've always there's

1:13:54

there's like a huge xander crew That

1:13:57

was like he's gonna do it and that was their moment

1:14:00

as well. I don't actually

1:14:02

I don't really have social media so

1:14:05

I have it but I don't see I don't

1:14:07

have any of my passwords I don't see anything.

1:14:09

Smart. But yeah I mean people will tell me

1:14:11

I mean I had like a I

1:14:13

had like a 12 year old kid yell at

1:14:15

me while we're playing like you're gonna choke. I

1:14:19

remember I was kind of walking and nobody just keep my head down

1:14:21

but I remember in my head I was kind of

1:14:24

like what the what did you

1:14:26

say? Where is your father? Yeah.

1:14:29

What's going on here? So I can imagine you know

1:14:31

I think I haven't won in such

1:14:33

a long time all the people that were betting on me

1:14:36

I feel like I hit this curve where it's like everyone was

1:14:38

betting on me to win and then everyone's

1:14:40

like this guy's never gonna win and so they just stopped

1:14:42

betting on me and then as soon as they stopped betting

1:14:45

on me I win and now everyone's like god damn it.

1:14:47

Yeah the true believers. Yeah. There's some

1:14:49

true believers out there. Yeah the OG's know who they

1:14:51

are. Yeah. You know

1:14:53

there's some quitters along the way and

1:14:55

that's fine too. Yeah. Yeah that's funny.

1:14:57

So I read that when you got

1:14:59

married in your wedding you dressed

1:15:01

your dogs up in formal attire for

1:15:03

the wedding. Is that true? Yeah I

1:15:06

mean do you think that was

1:15:08

my idea? Like are we just

1:15:10

talking tuxedos or did one yeah

1:15:14

yeah I got an Aussie labradoodle and a

1:15:16

Frenchy and my guy my Frenchy he looked

1:15:18

like a stud in his tux. Dude

1:15:20

we PFT and I went so I

1:15:23

have a coffee company named after my

1:15:25

dog and we give some of the

1:15:27

money to wear a rescuter in Chicago

1:15:29

and every year there's a thing called

1:15:31

the fur ball that it's literally like

1:15:34

a black tie affair and people bring

1:15:36

their dogs in like dresses and tuxedos.

1:15:38

Yeah it's crazy long dresses that like

1:15:40

follow the dog around. Yeah it was

1:15:42

awesome. It's nuts. But like

1:15:44

you might have to have your dogs they got the tuxes.

1:15:47

Yeah I don't know he's a little chunkier than he used

1:15:49

to be so I don't know if he's gonna

1:15:51

fit but that's brutal. He

1:15:53

tries to fit in the like I can't fit in

1:15:55

this anymore. That plays if it's a Frenchy. A Frenchy

1:15:57

like trying to squeeze into a way too tight tuxy.

1:16:00

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's nice Yeah,

1:16:04

all right. Well, this has been awesome

1:16:06

Xander. I got one last question It's

1:16:08

a row back question. Are you show

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take I It's a longer

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question But your your story is really cool

1:16:20

because you weren't like coming out of

1:16:23

high school You weren't like one of

1:16:25

these guys that everyone was talking about and you end

1:16:27

up going to a school That's not like known for

1:16:29

golf Like when you when you're

1:16:31

like coming up and going through the

1:16:34

qualifying and everything Was there ever a moment where

1:16:36

you're like this? This is I'm just

1:16:38

so far off because I even read a story about

1:16:40

how when you were in College

1:16:42

your golf coach like one of your

1:16:44

first years put you up against Patrick

1:16:46

Cantley when you played UCLA And it

1:16:49

was like I just want him to see like what the difference

1:16:51

is of how far he has to go And

1:16:53

the story goes that you shot like a 76 and

1:16:56

he shot a 63 So well,

1:16:58

oh you shot us higher than 76 78 Oh

1:17:01

shit, but like that it's a very cool story

1:17:04

because it doesn't feel like you were one of

1:17:06

those guys It was anointed from this this young

1:17:08

age, but now you're one of the best golfers

1:17:10

in the entire world So in that process was

1:17:12

there a moment where you're like, this is

1:17:14

I'm never gonna make it Yeah, I mean

1:17:16

100% I mean I like I think because

1:17:18

of everything you've just said I just had this chip on my

1:17:20

shoulder my whole career and You

1:17:23

know, I am a firm believer if you look at all

1:17:25

sports. There's always you know, the walk-on type guy You

1:17:28

know, I had a I was pretty I was a good

1:17:30

amateur I just you know wasn't my class is ridiculous that

1:17:32

if you just look at the class of 2011 golfers I

1:17:35

mean I can name like 15 guys

1:17:37

that are all on tour that have won basically and

1:17:39

it's like that's just ridiculous to

1:17:41

have a class where everyone's that strong but

1:17:44

Yeah, I mean I think coming out of college

1:17:46

my senior year college I went to few school

1:17:48

and I failed in second stage. I

1:17:50

missed second stage by six shots. So I was like

1:17:54

You know, I've been working my whole life, you know, I'm like 21 or

1:17:56

yeah I turned 21 my senior year.

1:17:58

So it's like okay, like this is what I really want

1:18:00

to do. And then so I go to Q school

1:18:03

after I graduate, I end

1:18:05

up getting through because a guy misses his putt

1:18:07

on the last hole to let six of us

1:18:09

in and I was one of those six guys.

1:18:12

So I get in on the number, then I go to

1:18:15

Corn Fairy, web.com at the time, I do

1:18:17

my time there and I'm like 115th on the

1:18:20

points list, like losing my card. And

1:18:22

then like I rattle off like, you know, three,

1:18:25

four top fives at

1:18:27

the end of the year, and then I finished

1:18:29

26th on the money list, missed out by $900

1:18:32

to get my tour card. And I'm like, I'm

1:18:34

like, God, this is frickin, you know, like, I feel

1:18:36

good. You know, this is this is not it. So

1:18:38

then I go to the playoffs, I get my cards

1:18:41

at the playoffs. And then I

1:18:43

you know, then I get on tour. And I'm like, you

1:18:45

know, same same shit, different tour. I'm playing

1:18:47

all year long. I'm like 130th on the

1:18:49

on the FedEx Cup, because I haven't done

1:18:52

anything. And then I Monday

1:18:54

qualify for the US Open, I finished tied fifth.

1:18:56

And that just like vaulted my entire career from

1:18:58

that moment. And then I ended up like I

1:19:00

secured my card at the Travelers a couple of

1:19:02

weeks later. And then I ended up like

1:19:05

winning Greenbrier and then my life just

1:19:07

changed. So awesome. It's like but until

1:19:09

that moment, like until I secured my

1:19:11

card at Travelers, I

1:19:13

mean, I had I don't know where I had more

1:19:15

relief, like on 18 on Sunday when I made that

1:19:17

putt and like I put my arms up and

1:19:19

I was so relieved or when I you know,

1:19:22

got my card at Q school, or when

1:19:24

I was able to secure my

1:19:26

card at Travelers and then to win a Greenbrier. I

1:19:28

mean, those are all like, and to

1:19:30

me, it was cool because it all they all just kind of

1:19:32

stacked up. You know, they all stacked

1:19:34

up and I just kept going and you know,

1:19:37

it's like, you know, you see other sports stories are kind of like

1:19:39

that, you know, it's like, you don't really

1:19:41

get your shot, but then you do get one and

1:19:43

then you just take advantage of it and then you

1:19:46

just can't look back. It sounds to me like you're

1:19:48

like one of the greatest like procrastinator slash under pressure

1:19:50

guys where you're like, I'm not I'm gonna start playing

1:19:52

my best golf right when I need to even the

1:19:54

PGA where it's like, all right, enough people are like,

1:19:57

Oh, Xander's never going to win. Now I'm going to

1:19:59

win one. You've got a poor a pressure is

1:20:01

like then he's become the best golfer in the world. And

1:20:03

yeah I am said that San Diego born and

1:20:06

raised. pretty laid back so maybe you're right, maybe

1:20:08

any to get a little east coast like energy

1:20:10

into my veins? Yeah so where do you go

1:20:12

from here now that it's hard have a chip

1:20:14

on his shoulder right now. You're. You're

1:20:16

the hottest thing in golf, so what's how

1:20:18

to motivate yourself? Dollars. A

1:20:20

sip on my shoulder outtakes Al Davis Everly. Try

1:20:22

Hop and will try. Tell me there's no chip

1:20:24

on my shoulder like a couple years ago of

1:20:26

his. I get on is like you don't have

1:20:28

a tip on her shoulder and I'll like I

1:20:30

like can even give him shit to them altogether.

1:20:32

try often as well. Yeah, he would have. He

1:20:34

would have given me shit about. How.

1:20:37

He was right Be now I know he's of

1:20:39

these as these as that guy so it was funny.

1:20:41

Are playing at in Dallas and sky and try out

1:20:43

as like you have a tip on are so many

1:20:46

more and I'll take his mother fucking on I'm you

1:20:48

end up shooting like sixty two and a final round

1:20:50

to finish high tide fifth cause I wasn't playing very

1:20:52

well at that time. This is like two years ago

1:20:54

and I didn't text some could I knew if

1:20:56

I text of you would have been like you're

1:20:58

welcome I told you. Yeah right Yeah my sir.

1:21:00

Yep yeah I'm in South. Assisted.

1:21:03

When. He won his his his dream come true

1:21:05

and had something about and I do but I've

1:21:07

always envisioned myself we more than one. So skyscrapers

1:21:10

at the top of those mountains that I've I've

1:21:12

referred to before and. I'm in, I

1:21:14

think. When. You're the number

1:21:16

one point the world than you start. Have you have

1:21:18

to reassess? You know what's going on and and how

1:21:20

to motivate yourself because he pretty much accomplished everything you'd

1:21:23

want to accomplish. Yeah but for me you know on

1:21:25

the second best player in the world was is an

1:21:27

awesome accomplishment. Some summer have never been but. I'm

1:21:30

so far behind Sky settler. That

1:21:33

it's like I just have to keep my

1:21:35

head down and keep running. Yeah, no snow

1:21:37

felonies l. A to point. yeah

1:21:40

i'm inside the yet for hurt her

1:21:42

golf though you know golf is that

1:21:44

saga ago professional sport like god he's

1:21:46

got for from highland park in taxes

1:21:48

or aires gum or streak read and

1:21:50

all that and i know a see

1:21:52

the idea what it is crazy does

1:21:54

is again a been like are scotty

1:21:56

like yeah that's kind of cool give

1:21:58

us like right years Golf yeah, yeah,

1:22:00

it's golf like every other sport. You're like oh shit

1:22:02

like is he gonna be able to make it in

1:22:05

the season? And then now it's like oh, he's a

1:22:07

badass. Yeah next tattoo

1:22:14

You guys are just sitting around you know this

1:22:16

beautiful country club being like and this guy's just

1:22:19

telling the story for the hundredth time He's like

1:22:21

yeah, they told me to stop and I didn't

1:22:23

stop Yeah That

1:22:27

also the chip on your shoulder you just said it

1:22:29

the chip on your shoulder is people saying

1:22:31

you don't have a chip on Your shoulder

1:22:33

and yeah, so yeah, you're a chip on

1:22:35

the shoulder guy for sure. Yeah. Yeah, it's

1:22:38

gotta I mean aware it man is there

1:22:40

stuck. Yeah coming. I love it. Well Xander.

1:22:42

Thank you so much congrats again, man It's

1:22:44

an awesome story and best of luck the

1:22:46

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actually I'm gonna do it from the start you're gonna be mad at me

1:25:39

for doing this we

1:25:43

gotta get Wendy's book he told me not to do

1:25:45

this but I'm

1:25:47

doing it as a friend if I want

1:25:49

yeah we we gotta get Wendy's book he's

1:25:51

close to passing the advance so

1:25:53

we could start you know that's when the real money comes

1:25:56

yeah I was listening to his podcast he said it he

1:25:58

was a little ashamed that he said it I was

1:26:00

like, you know what? I'm just gonna let's get

1:26:02

it going. So the book is return of the

1:26:04

king LeBron James Cleveland Cavaliers and

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We need you to we need people to buy it and

1:26:11

I also need an update How strong is

1:26:13

LeBron right now? Is he still so strong? so

1:26:16

strong Beyond just

1:26:18

strong So okay. Good.

1:26:21

How does that work if we if somebody buys the

1:26:23

audio version? Is there an audio version of it? Yeah,

1:26:25

I count so I mean like, you know, I've written

1:26:27

a you know Just I

1:26:30

appreciate first off Dan. I appreciate that. Yes,

1:26:32

you know, thank you very kindly It's always

1:26:34

appreciative of you and your audience that

1:26:36

that book was a best New York Times bestseller

1:26:39

But you know the way it works is, you

1:26:41

know You heat there's a certain line and we've

1:26:43

been dancing on that line the books out seven

1:26:45

years, right? I've subsequently written another book also on

1:26:47

the Bronn that Also

1:26:50

was a bestseller But I was

1:26:52

just making a joke on the my pod that I need

1:26:55

the Lakers to win again because the last time when the

1:26:57

Lakers Won in 2020 we had a

1:26:59

nice, you know, cuz normally you write a book

1:27:01

about LeBron winning with the Cavs about the championship

1:27:03

You know by 2019 when he's

1:27:05

in LA that book ain't selling anymore, right?

1:27:07

All right, we're doing overseas sales

1:27:10

Then when he won in 2020 with the Lakers,

1:27:12

you know, it's pure and middle mid covid

1:27:15

people like oh Yeah, I'll take this LeBron book and we had

1:27:17

a nice bounce So, you know the Lakers, you

1:27:19

know getting knocked out in the playoffs is just

1:27:21

hampering my chance to get past the advance Which

1:27:23

is a you know, yeah, maybe

1:27:25

maybe you guys write a book and it would fly

1:27:27

past the advance But some of us see I have a harder

1:27:29

time to do that. Well, let's get let's get our audience

1:27:32

to buy the book Maybe if we get past

1:27:34

the advance you'll tweet out an update on LeBron

1:27:36

strength Be like just a you know breaking news

1:27:38

LeBron still so strong. I Think

1:27:41

that's a fair That's a

1:27:43

fair deal that I can run past various agents

1:27:45

Okay If you want us to help out with

1:27:47

to really goose the numbers a little bit We'll

1:27:49

just report that you said on part of my

1:27:51

take that LeBron is going back to Cleveland And

1:27:54

then now there's a sudden interest in LeBron's career

1:27:56

in Cleveland So what are the chances that Dan

1:27:58

Gilbert gets on the phone? gets

1:28:00

the band back together. Two boys

1:28:03

riding again is one. Yeah,

1:28:05

so this is how it went. LeBron went

1:28:07

back to Cleveland for

1:28:11

Mother's Day. Okay.

1:28:14

I love it. I love it. But yeah, yeah,

1:28:16

Windy did not ask me to do that. I'm

1:28:18

doing that because I love Windy. So do buy

1:28:20

it. Alright, so let's talk some basketball. I

1:28:23

want to start with, we'll get to the

1:28:25

Pacers Celtic series, but I want to start with

1:28:27

the Mavs and the Wolves because I think

1:28:30

we, you know, all of us watched that

1:28:32

game on Sunday night and saw what the

1:28:34

Wolves did and we were shocked with the

1:28:36

fact they came, overcame a 20-point deficit in

1:28:38

Denver. For

1:28:40

this matchup though, how do

1:28:42

you see it going? I feel like people are

1:28:45

forgetting the Mavs are also a very good team

1:28:47

and kind of anointing the Wolves already. I think

1:28:49

they're the better team, the Wolves, but do

1:28:51

you think, like, how do you see this matchup playing out

1:28:54

and this series playing out? First off, you

1:28:56

guys are you guys is infatuated

1:28:58

with Ant Edwards as

1:29:00

I am. Yeah, I know that's a Vogue

1:29:02

take now, like everybody says that, but like

1:29:05

last year I went to

1:29:08

a Team USA on this month-long

1:29:11

trip to Abu Dhabi and Manila.

1:29:15

I spent a month with Ant Edwards

1:29:17

in Abu Dhabi and Manila and

1:29:19

he had never been overseas before and

1:29:22

in all honesty he later

1:29:25

said that he kind of felt a little

1:29:27

bit nervous about being on

1:29:29

that team because, you know, he didn't know where

1:29:31

his place was and I mean it can kind

1:29:34

of be nerve-wracking if you know, but this

1:29:37

amazing thing happened with that team. Steve

1:29:40

Kerr kind

1:29:44

of saw him as a sixth man. They

1:29:46

were like, I think we're gonna bring Ant off the

1:29:48

bench and he came to

1:29:50

Ant before the play, before they

1:29:52

played. He's like, hey, you

1:29:54

know, in Team USA sometimes star players come off

1:29:56

the bench, you know, Dwayne Wade in

1:29:59

2008. the Redeem team, Dwayne Wade

1:30:01

came off the bench because you know, Kobe was a

1:30:03

starting two guard. And Ant was

1:30:05

like, I was cool,

1:30:07

but I didn't see Kobe on the roster. And

1:30:11

by the, maybe the third exhibition

1:30:15

game, because they played like five exhibition games,

1:30:18

Steve Kerr was like, yeah, actually, he's

1:30:20

our best player. And

1:30:22

so watching that process, I

1:30:25

like walked away from that totally convinced Ant

1:30:27

was going to have a great season. And

1:30:30

so to see him do this has

1:30:32

been awesome. And so I have

1:30:34

no doubt at all, that he is

1:30:37

going to come into this conference finals

1:30:39

with no fear. And

1:30:41

he is not going to be influenced by the

1:30:44

moment. Yeah. But I am a little bit worried

1:30:46

about the rest of the wolves with that. There

1:30:48

was a, yeah, yeah, go ahead. I

1:30:50

was just gonna say there was a very funny moment

1:30:52

where it was Kat and Ant after the

1:30:54

game, they were asking him, you

1:30:57

know, usually have to lose in the playoffs to figure out

1:30:59

how to win. And he said, goddamn,

1:31:01

how much do you want us to lose? We

1:31:03

lost a lot in the playoffs already. Like how

1:31:05

much do we need to lose before we can

1:31:07

win? And I get the feeling from Ant, like

1:31:09

he's definitely, he seems to have the

1:31:11

mental makeup to not shy away from big moments

1:31:13

and to be a guy that will step up.

1:31:15

He has the dog, as we've said, he is

1:31:17

a dog. But then you worry

1:31:20

about a guy like Carl Anthony Towns, who

1:31:22

he will play like for one half like

1:31:24

a dog and the other half like a

1:31:26

cat. And then you're like, how do

1:31:28

you put this together? I'm not so sure. So

1:31:30

the question is, does he have, could he be

1:31:32

the guy, could he just put the team on

1:31:35

his shoulders throughout a seven game series and

1:31:37

be the best player on the court when you have a

1:31:39

guy like Luca on the other side? Yeah,

1:31:42

this is like, they haven't been

1:31:45

to this part of the playoffs for

1:31:47

20 years. Like

1:31:49

20 years. I mean, they hadn't won a playoff

1:31:52

series for 20 years. I mean,

1:31:54

so like this year, they put out a press

1:31:56

release at the end of the season about how

1:31:58

they sold out the season. The

1:32:00

Timberwolves did and they

1:32:03

sold out the season because they I think

1:32:05

and if this is wrong, I'm gonna get

1:32:07

I'm gonna get in trouble. This is wrong

1:32:10

But I think they like covered up a

1:32:12

couple of sections with like tarps and

1:32:15

they sold all the available seats This is like I

1:32:18

remember when I first started going to

1:32:20

Miami years ago like when Dwayne Wade

1:32:22

got there They

1:32:25

had sectioned off the up the highest

1:32:27

deck of the arena I don't know

1:32:29

if it's second or third deck the

1:32:31

idea like of the wolves Being

1:32:34

this good like they had closed off part

1:32:36

of their arena for games. Right? That's where

1:32:38

the that's where the wolves were Yeah, okay.

1:32:41

And so now they're in the

1:32:43

conference finals And so like calling them

1:32:45

the favorite in the conference finals like

1:32:47

is wild. Yeah and

1:32:49

you know, it's amazing you know, I thought was was such a Indication

1:32:53

of the way ant looks at the game He

1:32:56

wore the microphone in game

1:32:58

seven. Mm-hmm. Now what I mean, you know obviously

1:33:01

they want him to wear the microphone every game

1:33:03

and I think it's

1:33:05

kind of like an unwritten rule that the star

1:33:07

players kind of got to wear the mic at least once

1:33:09

in The playoffs maybe they make

1:33:11

you wear it once in the finals If you get

1:33:13

there the players usually don't want to wear that and

1:33:16

if they wear it They'll wear it like early

1:33:18

in a series. Yes, like hell. Yeah, give it

1:33:20

to me game seven on the road

1:33:22

I'll take that might put it right here. Yeah here and

1:33:25

I know that that sounds weird

1:33:27

that I would focus on that but that method before the

1:33:29

game is like, yeah I'm not worried at all. Yeah,

1:33:32

go ahead and record everything I say go

1:33:34

ahead and record my trash talk to while

1:33:36

I'm at it. Yeah, and so they haven't

1:33:38

done it before but his its

1:33:41

his leadership and his

1:33:43

belief I Don't

1:33:45

know maybe you can care about seeing because Lucas been there

1:33:49

Lucas, you know been you know over in

1:33:51

Europe, I know people don't give Europeans any

1:33:53

credit But go try to win a road

1:33:55

game like in the Euro league where in

1:33:58

some of those places there's little fires

1:34:01

and they have to have a police escort for

1:34:03

the referees and there's people are

1:34:05

lighting coins on fire and throwing them down

1:34:07

to the bench And they

1:34:09

they have to like not let the visiting

1:34:11

fans into the arena or have the visiting

1:34:14

fans leave And go tell me yeah

1:34:16

the level of basketball is the same as the nba Luca

1:34:18

won everything there was to win in europe by the time

1:34:20

he was 19, right? So I'm

1:34:23

not kiree has obviously played a ton of

1:34:25

big games there's

1:34:27

less Mystery for the mavericks and

1:34:30

there is for the wolves and so when you have

1:34:32

a favorite What

1:34:34

is the number? Do you guys know what the number is?

1:34:36

I don't know what it is. I think it's it's not

1:34:38

it's not Severe it's like I

1:34:41

think the wolves are like minus 140

1:34:43

or something. Okay, so it's not crazy

1:34:45

But yeah, they are the favorite. But yeah, you're right like the

1:34:49

I so i've been on a little thing where i'm

1:34:51

probably gonna end up picking the wolves But

1:34:53

I I think that people have a

1:34:55

perception of the mavericks that is not what they

1:34:57

have been doing in the playoffs And the cohesiveness

1:35:00

of their team and their role players stepping up

1:35:02

and here's one that I would like you to

1:35:04

maybe explain Everyone just

1:35:06

says lucas defense stinks. I

1:35:08

feel like he's been playing better defense than

1:35:11

his reputation And it's kind of

1:35:13

one of those things that it's going to take a

1:35:15

little bit He's not a lead defensively, but especially the

1:35:17

team defense The mavs have been playing has been a

1:35:19

lot better than people assume So when

1:35:21

we get to this series people are like, oh man,

1:35:23

this is going to be a lot harder for both

1:35:25

teams to score Because we know about minnesota's defense They

1:35:28

were the number one defensive team for the last

1:35:30

six weeks of the season, which is one of

1:35:32

the most amazing things that we saw happen in

1:35:35

the In the you know

1:35:38

over the course of the season and the maverick

1:35:40

fans are really pissed off that luca I think

1:35:42

he got one or two mvp votes They're

1:35:45

like really pissed off that that the team didn't

1:35:47

get more credit because they went 16 and two

1:35:50

to finish the season Um, but

1:35:52

you know, it's most valuable player of the

1:35:54

year, you know, that's you know, not that he

1:35:56

was terrible before but that You know, you can't

1:35:58

disregard everything else, but The

1:36:00

way that Luca had there

1:36:03

was a couple of times in their first

1:36:05

round series were like I felt like

1:36:07

Luca had never played Defense I'd

1:36:09

never seen him play defense like that now In

1:36:12

this last series against Oklahoma City. His knee was

1:36:14

bothering him. I don't think he was quite as Able

1:36:18

to dig in as he was against the Clippers,

1:36:20

but there was like there was like one game

1:36:22

against the Clippers I can't remember was game two

1:36:24

or three where I was like, oh my god Lucas like

1:36:27

making Game changing

1:36:30

defensive stops and

1:36:32

they got him doing that the last quarter of

1:36:34

the season I can't imagine if you were a

1:36:36

Nets fan To

1:36:38

watch what Kyrie is doing. Yeah,

1:36:40

like he is the perfect teammate.

1:36:42

He is creating no distractions He

1:36:45

is playing defense. He

1:36:48

is like Bringing people together

1:36:50

like even if you're KD your KD

1:36:52

out in Phoenix. You're like wait a

1:36:54

minute What is going on and I don't

1:36:56

know maybe it's just a Kyrie is like 32 now

1:36:58

and he's not 28

1:37:01

but like this is the Kyrie

1:37:03

that's a dream teammate even LeBron like

1:37:06

LeBron was now whether LeBron actually would

1:37:08

have followed through on It I don't

1:37:10

know and maybe Kyrie knew that but like LeBron

1:37:13

said on the record in

1:37:15

front of people that he wanted Kyrie to kind of

1:37:17

be this guy. He was willing to sort

1:37:20

of shepherd him into it I do think LeBron kind

1:37:22

of saw him and Kyrie going

1:37:24

for a while That

1:37:27

was impossible Kyrie was like 25, right? This

1:37:30

version of Kyrie and this version of Luca is

1:37:32

not what we have seen before so

1:37:35

Yeah, the math the math can win

1:37:37

it all the wolves can win it

1:37:39

all and that's why This

1:37:41

is gonna be interesting series. The other thing is Two

1:37:44

really good defenders that are underrated Jaden McDaniel's. I

1:37:46

don't know. He's got a hundred thirty million dollar

1:37:49

contract He might be and he might not be

1:37:51

underrated He's awesome and

1:37:53

he's gonna be on Luca that matchup

1:37:55

and then Derek Jones jr. Who

1:37:57

makes the NBA minimum was available for

1:38:00

anybody to sign, was

1:38:03

in Chicago there last year, and

1:38:05

just didn't work out as the Bulls. The Bulls thought

1:38:07

they took him from Miami. They thought he

1:38:09

was gonna be like this kind of player

1:38:11

for them, by the end, he wasn't even playing.

1:38:14

He is like them putting him in the starting lineup,

1:38:16

like with about 20 or 25 games to go, helped

1:38:20

trigger Dallas, being

1:38:23

really good on defense. Well, he's gonna get Ant,

1:38:25

you know? And so those

1:38:28

two match ups, Jayden McDaniels on Luca

1:38:30

and Derek Jones Jr. and other people will help,

1:38:32

but Derek Jones Jr. on Ant, that's gonna be a

1:38:34

big part of that series. Yeah, mm-hmm. You're

1:38:37

always at the forefront of reporting on

1:38:39

what teams are eating the best dinners

1:38:41

together and having the best productive dinner

1:38:43

meetings together. I remember you wrote an

1:38:45

article about the Spurs legendary dinners. You

1:38:47

told us about the, it

1:38:49

was in the Heat Celtics series last year,

1:38:51

a dinner kind of galvanized the team. This

1:38:55

postseason, what teams are the closest off the court?

1:38:59

I'm behind, I don't have, I think the closest off

1:39:01

the court were the Knicks, by the way. Ooh,

1:39:04

yeah. Yeah, well they played, yeah, those guys. Watching the

1:39:06

eclipse together, yeah. Did

1:39:08

they? I missed that. Yeah, they did.

1:39:10

They liked the eclipse together? Yeah. Yeah,

1:39:13

go off. I was really

1:39:16

negative and skeptical about the eclipse, mostly because

1:39:18

I was really annoyed. I had to travel

1:39:20

around the eclipse and it was causing me

1:39:23

a lot of problems. I

1:39:25

was going to Ohio because

1:39:27

my mom was having knee surgery on the

1:39:29

day of the eclipse. So she scheduled it

1:39:31

like, she was having a knee replace. She

1:39:34

scheduled it months in advance. Obviously

1:39:36

the eclipse was known years in advance. I didn't know.

1:39:39

And my sister was like, hey, maybe we should reschedule

1:39:42

her knee surgery because it's an eclipse. I

1:39:44

was like, what? We've been

1:39:46

waiting for this surgery for five months. We're

1:39:48

not rescheduling the freaking thing. Yeah, that's a

1:39:51

crazy cake from your sister. Thank

1:39:53

you. Thank you. So

1:39:57

anyway, I was really kind

1:39:59

of annoyed because in my hometown

1:40:01

of Akron, like in Cleveland, it was

1:40:03

like, you know, center of the totality.

1:40:05

Yeah. You know, and I'd seen

1:40:07

eclipses before and I was like, oh, come

1:40:10

on, people. Like, what are we talking about? So

1:40:12

I didn't actively try to get into

1:40:14

the totality. I found myself

1:40:17

there. And

1:40:20

so I got the glasses or whatever, and

1:40:22

I went outside, literally went outside the orthopedic

1:40:24

hospital on the veranda to watch this totality

1:40:27

eclipse. And it was one minute

1:40:29

away from the totality. And I was like, okay,

1:40:31

this is mildly interesting.

1:40:34

I would look out the window. It is not worth

1:40:36

traveling thousands of miles. And

1:40:39

then that totality thing happened. And

1:40:41

I was like, oh, this

1:40:44

is actually pretty remarkable. And

1:40:47

literally in the moment that

1:40:49

the totality happened, however it was long, like four

1:40:51

minutes or whatever, I get

1:40:53

a call from the nurse like, oh, your mom's

1:40:56

been moved. Because we were like, she had got

1:40:58

her knee done. We were waiting for her.

1:41:00

She was waiting for us in her in the hotel. And they're like, oh,

1:41:02

your mom's in room 516. She's

1:41:05

looking forward to seeing you. I was like, yeah, hold on.

1:41:08

Hold on. Yeah, I'll get back to

1:41:10

you. You know, she's just out of surgery.

1:41:12

Yeah. Like, hold on. I actually

1:41:14

came for the eclipse. The surgery was just coincidental. We

1:41:16

got a totality going on. Yeah, man changed by the

1:41:18

eclipse. Well, I can see how that was team building.

1:41:20

Yes. Yeah. Team

1:41:22

building of the totality. I can actually see Kyrie

1:41:24

Irving becoming a whole new man after an eclipse.

1:41:27

Yeah. I can see him experiencing that

1:41:29

and being like, you know what? This is post

1:41:31

totality Kyrie. I'm going to be a good teammate.

1:41:34

I'm not going to be a... PFP, I am

1:41:36

making a note to ask ESPN stats and information,

1:41:38

which is the greatest asset at ESPN. Yeah. People

1:41:41

think that it's like Stephen A. Or

1:41:44

it's like the studios. The greatest asset

1:41:46

at ESPN is the stats

1:41:48

and information group. This

1:41:51

is a secret that no one really is going to ever tell

1:41:53

you. Like, these games,

1:41:56

where they end at like two in the morning or

1:41:58

whatever, and you got to be on get up. Like

1:42:00

you roll out of bed you got two hours sleep,

1:42:03

and you've got this packet of information from

1:42:05

stats and info We get on

1:42:07

there You

1:42:09

know the the Mavericks were shot

1:42:12

66% coming off Pin-downs

1:42:15

in the last 12 seconds of the shot clock and

1:42:17

that was a big difference in the game They're

1:42:20

the greatest yeah, okay. I'm having stats

1:42:23

and information. I'm giving them an assignment

1:42:25

to look up Kyrie

1:42:27

post-eclipse yeah Like if

1:42:29

there's like one that number might be amazing

1:42:31

Yeah If there's one thing that's changed because

1:42:33

I do feel like on kind of a

1:42:35

more serious level like Kyrie he is He's

1:42:38

learned over the years. I think

1:42:41

not to He's learned

1:42:43

the hot-button things that he can't say

1:42:45

to the media right he can have

1:42:47

whatever conversations He wants with his friend.

1:42:49

Yeah, but it feels like he's not

1:42:51

bringing that drama as much as he

1:42:53

used to Yes

1:42:55

for now without question

1:42:58

Especially since there's things in the world that

1:43:00

he could definitely comment on that would be

1:43:02

controversial. Yes, so and

1:43:06

By the way now that I think about it Dallas

1:43:09

was like heart of the

1:43:11

totality right yeah, I think something

1:43:14

Look it up you of you

1:43:16

have potentially identified something incredible. We

1:43:18

got a reverse firewall Kyrie All

1:43:21

right Good.

1:43:23

Oh, I can't wait to see the stats. I

1:43:25

got a question for you. This is not Brian

1:43:27

Winhorse opinion This is GM's opinion so

1:43:29

it's a two-part question Rank

1:43:32

the players all say all contracts

1:43:34

equal You know you

1:43:36

call up a GM who they would want

1:43:38

over everyone else yeah, Luca Tatum Ant

1:43:41

Halliburton so that's the first part and

1:43:43

then I have a second part of that question Luca

1:43:46

Tatum, I think they probably

1:43:48

take Luca because

1:43:51

he's 6'8 and

1:43:53

he can be such a difference maker in a single

1:43:56

game and then Tatum

1:43:59

and is interesting because

1:44:01

the ant defends, man. Like

1:44:04

this is the thing like when I see people rank

1:44:06

these players, it's

1:44:09

two ends of the court. And not

1:44:11

only does ant defend, he wants to defend.

1:44:14

This is the one thing I don't know

1:44:16

anything about college basketball. I

1:44:18

don't have time or I

1:44:20

don't have bandwidth to study it. I

1:44:24

do watch tournament, which is not a responsible

1:44:26

way to evaluate college players. So

1:44:29

I would never come out and say.

1:44:31

That's a John Paxson way to set

1:44:33

up for the draft. Yeah. The guy

1:44:36

from Connecticut, Clingan, the center. Yeah. The

1:44:39

thing that blew me away about him when I

1:44:41

watched him was that he wants to play defense.

1:44:43

What I mean by that is he

1:44:46

like busts his ass to get into

1:44:48

position. You can tell what

1:44:51

happens on that end of court he feels

1:44:54

personally responsible for. And that's

1:44:56

one of the reasons why to me, he is

1:44:59

an exciting player because not only

1:45:01

is he seven foot whatever with like a

1:45:03

seven foot. I think Gavoni said seven foot

1:45:06

nine inch. I think

1:45:08

Gavoni said his standing reach is nine foot

1:45:11

seven. So basically if he gets

1:45:13

on his tiptoes, he can probably touch the rim.

1:45:15

Yeah. It's one thing to have that and

1:45:17

then not want to play defense. I've seen plenty of players

1:45:19

like that. You know, I've

1:45:21

seen seven, I've seen seven foot three guys who

1:45:23

only want to shoot threes. Seriously. They have no

1:45:26

interest in going into the paint. This

1:45:28

guy wants that. And so that's why when I see

1:45:30

ant, not only does he

1:45:33

first have to get super long arms, even

1:45:35

though he's not super tall, he's like six

1:45:37

four, he's got really long arms. He wants

1:45:39

to defend. And that's something about Tatum. One

1:45:42

of the things that happens at ESPN is that,

1:45:44

you know, we always have these parlor games, you

1:45:46

know, for first take, who

1:45:49

is the best duo? Who's

1:45:51

the best guy to build around? Who would you pick

1:45:53

to start a team with? And I

1:45:55

am always going to default to the guys that play both

1:45:57

ends. And Tatum plays both

1:45:59

ends. And that's why

1:46:01

a lot of people I think would pick Tatum, but

1:46:03

aunt plays both ends and

1:46:06

he wants it Yeah, he

1:46:08

wants the ball. He wants the microphone

1:46:11

honestly, I Would

1:46:13

I was so impressed with him wearing the microphone?

1:46:16

Microphone got if I if

1:46:18

I was in these draft meetings, you know I was

1:46:21

listening to guys talk about what they got what they

1:46:23

got asked by I know this is a big thing

1:46:25

at the NFL Combine this is a this is gone

1:46:27

for years I Was

1:46:29

asking potential top picks. Would you

1:46:32

wear a microphone? I

1:46:34

love this one. I could just see it. Yeah, Brian when

1:46:36

or sitting in like You know

1:46:38

a front office Like a set of money

1:46:40

ball and you got the during the Utah

1:46:42

Jazz thing and be like will you wear

1:46:44

a microphone game seven? How

1:46:49

would you execute this pin down And

1:46:52

you got you know the general manager going like, you

1:46:55

know, what's your most embarrassing moment? Well,

1:46:58

you know the first time you were alone in

1:47:01

the backseat of a car with a woman What did you

1:47:03

do? Yeah, and then I would be like they get to

1:47:05

me and I'm the guy like, you know The consultant who's

1:47:07

like, you know got some sort of BS thing. Would

1:47:10

you wear the mic in game seven? Okay,

1:47:14

that's my question Do

1:47:16

you think that Jason Tatum is such a coward

1:47:19

that he made sure that his team had home

1:47:21

court advantage So he would never have to wait

1:47:23

like on game seven on the road. Absolutely

1:47:26

No, I think you should absolutely go with that thing.

1:47:28

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that's Celtics Pacer series. The Celtics are really

1:48:48

really good. Like I know that they have

1:48:50

not played. Thank you for saying that. It's

1:48:53

unfortunate the Celtics play in a conference

1:48:55

that is not good and

1:48:57

they are a lot better than everyone. They're

1:49:01

very very good. They very well could win

1:49:03

the title. I would probably, they're favorites right

1:49:05

now. Is there any chance

1:49:07

the Pacers can win this series and if they do

1:49:09

how does it, what has to happen? It's

1:49:12

so tough to say that there's no chance because

1:49:14

I've seen the Celtics play in the playoffs

1:49:16

these last few years. As

1:49:19

I wrote in my 2009 book, what was

1:49:21

the name of that book? What's going

1:49:23

on right now reminds me of In

1:49:28

2009 the Cavs won 66 games. They

1:49:30

went 8-0 the first two rounds of the

1:49:32

playoffs obliterated the first two opponents but weren't

1:49:35

like amazingly impressive. They

1:49:37

just they got through the series. They had

1:49:39

to wait nine days and

1:49:41

they played Orlando Mad, the Orlando Magic who

1:49:43

had just got off a seven game series

1:49:45

of the Celtics. Same situation. Orlando

1:49:47

wins on a Sunday afternoon and

1:49:50

comes to Cleveland to play the number one seed. 66 wins. Celtics

1:49:53

have 64 wins and the Cavs weren't

1:49:57

ready for it. Now that Orlando team was

1:49:59

not the I think the three seat, I

1:50:01

think they won like 57 games. It's

1:50:04

not exactly apples to apples. But I remember about

1:50:06

that game is the magic hit the floor, like

1:50:09

they had been driving in a race going

1:50:11

100 miles an hour and the cast hit

1:50:13

the floor, like they were slowly merging on

1:50:15

like grandma looking over their shoulder with the

1:50:17

turn signal on. And so that's

1:50:20

one thing I'll say about this is that the Pacers

1:50:22

have been playing meaningful,

1:50:25

every game matters basketball, even back into the

1:50:27

back end of the regular season, because they

1:50:30

were trying to get that six seed they

1:50:32

didn't want the seven and go into the play in.

1:50:36

And that's why they haven't lost a home game in two

1:50:38

months. I think the last home game they lost was like

1:50:40

March 18th. Because

1:50:42

all those games they had to win. And

1:50:44

when you're when you're the sixth seed, you can't

1:50:47

be losing a home game in the playoffs and thinking of

1:50:49

any chance. And so they haven't, they've

1:50:51

got they've approached all those home games seriously. The

1:50:53

other thing is, it seems to me like

1:50:55

the Pacers fans don't sell their tickets. So

1:50:58

you know, the Knicks have a huge fan base, you

1:51:00

saw them. And I know Philadelphia in Indiana, it's different.

1:51:03

But you know, I think there's not a lot of Knicks fans in

1:51:05

Chicago area or whatever. When

1:51:08

when the when the doors opened up for game three, like

1:51:10

all of a sudden, like the first 20 fans that came

1:51:12

down to the court were Knicks fans, I was like, Oh,

1:51:14

boy, here we go again. Nope, that

1:51:16

whole that whole crowd was was that gold, yellow,

1:51:18

whatever you want to call it.

1:51:20

That place is hard place to play. So I

1:51:23

know that the Pacers are much more in rhythm

1:51:26

than the Celtics because these two series of the

1:51:28

Celtics had, they were not exactly

1:51:30

put the metal to the the

1:51:32

gas to the floor series. The

1:51:34

Celtics have had time off and the Pacers

1:51:36

are awesome at home. So

1:51:39

I do think

1:51:41

this is not going to be a pushover. The Celtics are going

1:51:43

to have to play. Yeah. And

1:51:45

then the same sentence, same paragraph,

1:51:47

I'll say, the Pacers are there in

1:51:49

large part because the teams that they played were

1:51:52

so banged up. No honest and Dame got hurt.

1:51:55

Half the Knicks got hurt and they were already missing

1:51:57

Julius Randall. honor

1:52:00

the Pacers in the same way as saying that

1:52:02

they were the beneficiary of not playing a team

1:52:05

like the Celtics to this point. Yeah. I

1:52:08

think that's valid. That's valid because they

1:52:10

took care of business and the Knicks weren't necessarily like an

1:52:13

easy out for them. That was a seven

1:52:15

game series and they gave them all they could

1:52:17

handle even with the depleted roster. But

1:52:19

I do feel like the Pacers, they can score

1:52:22

and the Celtics, they have a couple games

1:52:24

it feels like every series for the last

1:52:26

few years where they just forget how to

1:52:28

shoot, where they can't make a shot. And

1:52:31

if you do that... Sometimes PFT, sometimes they

1:52:33

don't dribble. Yeah. Sometimes they forget how to dribble.

1:52:35

Yeah. And if you can't

1:52:37

dribble or shoot, the Pacers are going to outscore you.

1:52:40

They'll be able to do that. That's true. So

1:52:42

I feel like the Celtics should win this series. They

1:52:44

should win it easily, but I wouldn't be shocked if

1:52:46

the Pacers took too often. Yeah. I

1:52:49

think that's a fair thing to say. The other thing is like the

1:52:52

Celtics, they've

1:52:56

cost me so much time with

1:52:59

my fans. I've been with my family the last two years. What

1:53:02

I mean by that is they've had so

1:53:04

many series that should have been over and

1:53:06

that they messed around in when I could

1:53:08

have come home in between series. That's

1:53:12

when you as a media member, that's when

1:53:14

you get acutely aware of every

1:53:16

thing that happens in a game and

1:53:20

getting down 3-0 to the Heat and then winning

1:53:23

three in a row and then losing game seven.

1:53:25

If I was a Celtics fan, I

1:53:28

don't know if I'd have been able to recover from the experience

1:53:30

of that series. And

1:53:33

so that's the thing. They never do what you

1:53:35

expect them to do. Yeah. Yeah.

1:53:39

No, there are two losses. This playoffs have

1:53:41

been like blowout losses, which had you in

1:53:43

it, which had you just got to your

1:53:45

head, but then what do they do? They

1:53:47

just dominate the team after that. And it's

1:53:49

like that was never even a doubt. They're

1:53:51

so much better than the Cavs and the

1:53:53

Heat. Well, it's game twos, right? It's Boston

1:53:55

sports. Boston sports in general cannot win a

1:53:57

game two in a series. That's what Hank's

1:53:59

been saying. So he's worried about game

1:54:01

twos. Alright, so Yeah,

1:54:03

I like your answer though with the Pacers

1:54:05

playing meaningful games, you know the last two

1:54:07

months and the Celtics have been on cruise

1:54:09

control I still think they're gonna win this

1:54:11

series somewhat easily, but that is a wrinkle

1:54:13

I had a question for you about so

1:54:15

I did a bad job probably explaining it

1:54:17

on our show on Monday but

1:54:21

the Mavs prove the tanking

1:54:23

works with Derek Lively

1:54:25

playing incredible in game six I

1:54:28

Remember the NBA media and everyone being like pretty

1:54:30

upset that the Mavs were blatantly tanking when they

1:54:32

still could Luca was pissed off Yeah They still

1:54:34

could have made the playing game is Is the

1:54:36

league gonna now overreact to this because it if

1:54:39

I am all a big believer if your team

1:54:41

doesn't have a chance to win A championship think

1:54:44

about the future don't think about playing

1:54:46

in a playing game and getting one more

1:54:48

home home Court, you

1:54:50

know set sail for the owner think about the future

1:54:52

and that's the Mavs did and they did it and

1:54:55

it worked Yeah, and so

1:54:57

Luca had in in the closeout game against

1:54:59

the Thunder Luca had a couple of like

1:55:02

alley-oops to Derek Lively And he

1:55:04

kind of had like this sly smile at the end of

1:55:06

the game and the post game press conference He was like,

1:55:09

I'm actually pretty happy that the Mavericks got

1:55:11

Derek Lively, right? Which was

1:55:13

his sort of I mean, it was already obviously well known

1:55:16

But it was sort of his little like wink like I

1:55:18

guess it was worth it. Here's the thing about the NBA

1:55:20

you can tank Just

1:55:23

don't just don't say you're tanking right? That's when you get

1:55:25

in trouble You know when you say that

1:55:27

you're tanking is when you get in trouble and you know

1:55:30

I think there have been a fine or two over the

1:55:32

years I think the Mavericks

1:55:34

even got hit with it because I think smart Cuban

1:55:36

like in our in a interview someone said well We

1:55:38

tanked they don't care. They just you

1:55:40

know, you know, you know, it's like it's like They

1:55:44

didn't care that you rested the players They

1:55:47

just wanted you like announce it in the

1:55:50

in advance or sometimes not even say that

1:55:52

they were resting It's about

1:55:54

perception that you don't

1:55:56

need like you don't need to bring in

1:55:58

like a hundred thousand dollar consultant who's

1:56:01

got, you know, three management degrees

1:56:03

and 50 years of experience fixing

1:56:06

distressed companies to get the idea

1:56:08

that looking at how the MBA rules work and

1:56:10

have suggesting tanking. You know, go

1:56:12

tell the San Antonio Spurs that

1:56:14

tanking doesn't work. Right. Excuse

1:56:17

me. Yeah. They

1:56:19

got Tim Duncan and they got Victor Wamben-Yama by

1:56:21

blatantly tanking in both situations. Yeah. So,

1:56:25

of course. And not only that,

1:56:27

but they, the Mavericks, one

1:56:29

of the big problems the Mavericks had last year was that

1:56:31

they were after the Kyrie trade is that they were ridiculously

1:56:33

top heavy. They had those two guys and that's it. And

1:56:36

Nico Harrison, who's their GM, and Mark Cuban, who's

1:56:38

involved with those kind of things, they

1:56:42

really got creative in

1:56:45

ways to get a

1:56:47

couple of extra guys to fill this roster out. And one

1:56:49

of them was tanking to get Derek Lively. And by the

1:56:51

way, they did a draft night trade. They

1:56:54

not only tanked, they did

1:56:56

their work on the scouting end and correctly identified that

1:56:59

Derek Lively was the guy that was going to fit

1:57:01

perfect for them. And then when they,

1:57:03

and then they drew, got their information about other teams. And

1:57:05

then when they got to draft night, they saw an opportunity

1:57:07

to move back in the draft and

1:57:10

maneuver a little bit and still get the guy that

1:57:12

they wanted. And those assets helped them

1:57:14

later on. They did a deal with Sacramento and

1:57:17

they got kind of creative and it's actually kind

1:57:19

of fascinating this trade deadline

1:57:21

trade they made with Oklahoma City. They

1:57:25

needed an extra first round pick. They only were

1:57:27

allowed to trade one because they traded a bunch

1:57:29

of stuff for Kyrie. They needed,

1:57:31

they wanted, well, they really wanted to trade for

1:57:33

Kyle Kuzma, but Kyle Kuzma say he didn't want

1:57:35

to be a maverick and the Wizards actually allowed

1:57:39

him to veto the trade, which is one of the

1:57:41

most amazing stories in the NBA season. And

1:57:45

they went on the record. Michael Winger, their team

1:57:47

president, won the record and said, yeah, we went

1:57:49

to Kyle Kuzma and said, you want to go

1:57:52

to Dallas? No. Okay. See

1:57:54

you at practice tomorrow. It was like they thought they were

1:57:56

going to trade for Kyle Kuzma, but they

1:57:58

made this trade with Oklahoma City. city where they

1:58:01

traded a pick swap, like

1:58:03

in 2030 for a first round

1:58:05

pick and they use

1:58:08

that pick to trade for PJ Washington. I'm

1:58:11

like, look, I'm not even blaming the Thunder. That

1:58:13

pick swap in 2030, who knows where

1:58:15

Luke is going to be? That might end up being

1:58:17

a top five pick. I know. I

1:58:20

know. But PJ Washington splashing threes on

1:58:22

the Thunder when they enabled that trade,

1:58:25

maybe a little bit harder for breakfast to go down

1:58:28

in the morning. But they did a great job in

1:58:30

Dallas to manufacture

1:58:32

getting Derek Lively because they very easily could

1:58:34

have been in and

1:58:36

out of the playoffs and not had that pick. Manufacturing

1:58:40

how to get a PJ Washington. Gafford was

1:58:42

sort of the backup deal when Chosma said

1:58:44

no, but they did do that trade. They

1:58:46

did acquire that player. And

1:58:49

they've added three rotation players one

1:58:52

year to the next, like three rotation players on a

1:58:54

conference finals team. Like that's

1:58:57

not easy to do. And without

1:58:59

sacrificing either, they're two top star

1:59:01

players. So yeah, Lively was part

1:59:03

of an overall strategy by

1:59:06

Nico Harrison, who is

1:59:08

their GM or present whatever his title is, was really

1:59:10

good work. Yeah, it's fascinating. Yeah, it's

1:59:12

crazy to go back and look how everything

1:59:14

came together and they played it exactly perfect.

1:59:16

And Lively, he's so fun to watch. He's

1:59:18

so high energy on defense. He

1:59:21

gets the boards. He does like all the dirty work.

1:59:23

So I got a fun parlor

1:59:25

game for us. You were talking about the first

1:59:27

take parlor games. Who is the

1:59:29

best third option on any of the remaining

1:59:31

teams? If

1:59:33

we're doing it like that, saying, okay, the

1:59:35

role players are going to be the difference

1:59:38

in the playoffs. Who is the question? It's

1:59:40

a good question. Thank you. I

1:59:42

like it. Thank you. I

1:59:44

don't care. I don't think you would make it to first

1:59:46

take because we don't care about third options on first take.

1:59:48

We want to care about, you know, about seven different guys

1:59:50

and about four different teams. Well, you guys do the Batman

1:59:53

Robin. Yeah. Batman Robin. We're going to

1:59:55

Alfred. Alfred, you got to make it. Yeah. You

1:59:58

got to make the cut. Take

2:00:00

Alfred. Yeah, let's do the Alfreds. No

2:00:02

Alfred. Yeah. OK, got it. Actually,

2:00:05

a really good question. Great question. You don't even

2:00:07

have to answer. That was just, yeah. Yeah, we're

2:00:09

done. Just keep telling me how great it was.

2:00:12

Porzingis is Alfred

2:00:14

there. Wait. And we don't know how

2:00:16

good he's going to be. Wait, is

2:00:18

Porzingis your Alfred? Yeah. You

2:00:21

don't think so? I think he's Robin.

2:00:23

I think Derek White. Derek White

2:00:25

has been so good. Maybe

2:00:28

it's just because Porzingis has been injured. But

2:00:31

when Derek White is going, that

2:00:33

Celtics team feels like it has a different gear.

2:00:35

He's playing like an Alfred. Right. I'll give you

2:00:37

that. That's right. And Porzingis has been injured. OK,

2:00:39

that's fair. I think they need

2:00:41

Porzingis to be the Alfred. OK, that's fair. Yep.

2:00:44

He's a catwoman. But White has played like an Alfred. Yeah.

2:00:47

Of all the classic Alfreds, has

2:00:49

there been more of a classic, more classic Alfred

2:00:51

than Derek White this year? I think not. Derek

2:00:53

White actually had a few games we played, like

2:00:56

Batman. Pooh. You're not kidding.

2:00:58

Superman. Yeah. Also, he

2:01:00

did something interesting. They offered him a contract

2:01:02

extension last fall, which I don't

2:01:04

know how much they offer them. He

2:01:06

turned it down. The

2:01:08

contract he's on right now, it's

2:01:10

good. But he is so much

2:01:12

better than that. He totally kind of bet on himself. And

2:01:15

maybe it was a no-brainer to turn it down. I don't

2:01:17

know what the numbers were. Then he

2:01:19

had this awesome season. Boston's

2:01:22

got to pay him. Yeah. So

2:01:26

Jalen Brown's $300 million contract starts

2:01:29

next year. It was signed out

2:01:31

a year early. Tatum has

2:01:33

already qualified for his

2:01:35

$300 million. Actually, Jalen Brown came in a little

2:01:38

below $300. It was like $288. I

2:01:42

think Jason Tatum's is going to be about $308 or

2:01:45

something like that. So they're going to

2:01:47

sign him. They're giving him $300 million. They

2:01:50

have to. You got to

2:01:52

pay Derek White, by the way. That's

2:01:54

going to be an expensive team. All

2:01:57

right, so Porzingis is your number one

2:01:59

Alfred. I think

2:02:01

so, but, you

2:02:04

know, like, PJ

2:02:07

Washington was pretty important in that theory.

2:02:09

He was big Alfred. He was big Alfred. Okay.

2:02:11

Yeah, I'm going to stick with Porzingis.

2:02:14

Okay. Final answer. All right.

2:02:17

What about the wolves Alfred? Who's the Alfred that needs some?

2:02:19

Because, you know, you'd think it would be a, however

2:02:21

you look at it, root of your cat, but

2:02:23

it could easily be a Jaden McDaniels. Yeah.

2:02:26

McDaniels is big, but you know, Nikli

2:02:29

Jokic, who is not somebody

2:02:31

who I would say is effusive about

2:02:34

too many things, you know, what

2:02:37

he basically gave Mike Conley

2:02:40

to Valentine after getting

2:02:42

eliminated. And also you always congratulate the

2:02:44

opposition when you lose, but you're not

2:02:46

in the mood when you're

2:02:48

sitting up there and you're thinking about

2:02:50

your season being over. He took the

2:02:52

time to basically

2:02:54

completely applaud Mike Conley.

2:02:58

And so while Conley is not

2:03:00

going to put up 25 a

2:03:02

game normally, he gets them organized because,

2:03:05

you know, that team gets a little wild, you

2:03:08

know, cats starts having possessions where things

2:03:10

go a little crazy and goes a

2:03:12

little off board and Conley always does the

2:03:14

right thing. Sometimes it's to get the

2:03:17

ball and immediately pass it. He has the ball in

2:03:19

his hand for two tenths of a second, because that's the right thing to

2:03:21

do. Sometimes what he does is he

2:03:23

gets the ball and he's like, okay, you

2:03:25

go over here, you get over there. Rudy

2:03:28

needs a touch. Rudy's getting frustrated. He's

2:03:30

blowing steam a little bit. We're

2:03:32

going to give Rudy go bear a touch because it's going to

2:03:34

help us on the defensive end. Mike Conley, I

2:03:37

think is there probably their third, like Jaden

2:03:39

McDaniels is more important, I guess, because they

2:03:42

got to use him on Luca. But

2:03:44

Mike Conley playing well and being healthy and doing his

2:03:47

job, I think is third most important on the ball.

2:03:49

Sometimes he didn't play this postseason. They did

2:03:51

look like a much different team. They looked

2:03:54

way worse when they left organized. It said

2:03:56

that. He was like, they're like, what's the adjustment?

2:03:58

He's like, we got, we didn't have Mike Conley. The

2:04:00

Tim rules have several Alfred's like Nas read

2:04:02

who you could be an Alfred to wow.

2:04:04

I Love Nas

2:04:06

Reed's awesome. Yeah, so much fun He

2:04:10

know that stretch he had in game seven

2:04:12

Where's like a two-minute stretch where he completely

2:04:14

dominate the game on both ends like it

2:04:16

feels like he has that Every

2:04:18

other game where it's like oh this

2:04:21

game was just decided by Nas Reed just outplay

2:04:23

every man of the year Yeah, yeah, and he

2:04:25

is so strong. He's so strong. There's

2:04:27

that you know what? There's a lot of super

2:04:29

subs You know that you know you're talking about

2:04:31

Alfred talk about super subs. I don't know work

2:04:33

on your cartoon. Yeah, I'm for that. Yeah Yeah,

2:04:36

I don't know TJ McConnell. Yep Guy

2:04:39

is amazing. I mean Just

2:04:41

watch TJ McConnell play. It's just

2:04:43

amazing Peyton, Peyton Prichard. Yeah, who

2:04:46

is Absolute

2:04:48

past when he comes in the game for Boston

2:04:52

you got Nas Reed defensive or

2:04:54

a six man of the year and Derek

2:04:57

Lively comes off the bench. Mm-hmm.

2:05:00

I mean Super subs like

2:05:02

and by the way, that's one of the reasons why these

2:05:04

teams are here And I was saying all good benches you

2:05:06

forgot Luca Garza Luca Garza by

2:05:08

the way. Yeah That

2:05:11

dude is freaking ripped If

2:05:13

you see his dad his dad's big too. I

2:05:16

don't want to mess with his dad. Yeah, I

2:05:18

mean that guy is even

2:05:21

in a league where you see freak

2:05:24

athletes because With

2:05:26

all due respect like NFL players and baseball players.

2:05:28

Oh The

2:05:30

freak athletes are in the NBA. Yeah Certain

2:05:35

NFL players where that are Credit

2:05:38

incredible athletes like for example when I sit next

2:05:40

to Shannon sharp on the set of first take

2:05:42

I Look at him.

2:05:44

He's like 50 something years old. I'm like How

2:05:47

the hell did anybody ever tackle

2:05:50

him? Yeah ever but even amongst the

2:05:52

freak athletes for the NBA where you've

2:05:54

got these six foot ten guys who

2:05:56

were ripped Luca

2:05:58

Garza stands out Yeah,

2:06:01

boss and I loved it when you know, it's

2:06:03

like whenever you get the Luka Garza minutes, you're like,

2:06:05

alright Tim rolls are rolling You

2:06:08

know, you got a man not quite

2:06:11

Darko Milasich victory cigar, but I could

2:06:13

I can see that I would never say that

2:06:15

to him. No Please no,

2:06:18

please enter the game. No, allow me.

2:06:20

Yes All

2:06:22

right. Well Wendy I had one last question for

2:06:24

you. I you don't do predictions by the way

2:06:26

Wendy doesn't do predictions. I respect I mean sometimes

2:06:28

I get like tricked into it So maybe you're

2:06:30

gonna trick me into it, but I prefer not

2:06:32

to yeah you I mean, like I said, I

2:06:34

listened to you and Bond times and McMahon and

2:06:36

and you you actually did Accidentally

2:06:38

predict that the Nuggets were gonna win that

2:06:40

series by the way shady

2:06:42

business on that particular

2:06:45

thing Because we have a group chat

2:06:47

when we talk about the show before the show I'm

2:06:49

sure you guys maybe send a text to each other

2:06:52

oh, yeah, you know and I said

2:06:54

Nuggets are gonna win the series like when it

2:06:56

was 2-1 and They

2:06:58

took that you don't bring the group chat.

2:07:01

Oh, yeah Everything

2:07:03

is said in the group chat here is said out

2:07:05

loud, you know, it's fair game everything. That's why our

2:07:09

Side yeah There

2:07:11

are no I mean we got when Hank takes a nap

2:07:14

every other day We tape them doing it taking a nap

2:07:16

like everything. No, I got it. Yeah, I got it Yeah,

2:07:19

we're on the record all the time So our

2:07:21

pre podcast conversations on text are basically just like

2:07:23

what do you guys want to eat for dinner?

2:07:25

Yeah, and then and then if Hank

2:07:27

tries to jinx one of our bets, so you're saying I

2:07:29

gotta take the L Not only that I made a prediction

2:07:32

that wasn't meant to be public that turned out to be

2:07:34

wrong. Yeah Yeah,

2:07:37

yeah Wherever you make the prediction

2:07:39

it still counts because that tells me that you do

2:07:41

make predictions You just don't want to a public. Yeah,

2:07:43

you don't want to get the backlash if you're wrong So

2:07:45

you have to be about that life on and off the

2:07:48

court. Yes busted. Okay. All

2:07:50

right, so My last

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you don't make predictions but if

2:08:04

we were to see a text

2:08:06

message on a group chat from Wendy

2:08:08

he would have said with

2:08:11

the final four he set this

2:08:13

team's gonna win it all. Again this

2:08:15

is not a prediction. If Boston doesn't

2:08:17

win it's a terrible

2:08:19

missed opportunity. Okay. Terrible.

2:08:22

I like that way you spend it because that's not a prediction. Because

2:08:24

like who is like Boston first off

2:08:26

they've been here a whole bunch of times like six

2:08:28

or whatever conference finals in the last like nine years.

2:08:31

LeBron's not in their way. The Warriors are

2:08:34

not in their way. Giannis

2:08:36

who they had to go seven

2:08:38

a couple years ago and they only won that

2:08:40

series really because Middleton got hurt. Giannis they didn't

2:08:42

make it there because he was hurt. The

2:08:46

team that the only team that handled them all year

2:08:48

long in a regular season was the Nuggets. You

2:08:51

know I think they lost three games in Boston.

2:08:53

Nuggets came in there and handled them. They're

2:08:56

gone. Like I'm not saying

2:08:58

that you know the Lucas a pushover and is

2:09:01

a pushover. I'm not you know disrespecting

2:09:03

the Pacers but if you're gonna win the title

2:09:06

how you got home court you're

2:09:09

playing the six seed again with all due

2:09:11

respect to the Nuggets or the

2:09:13

Pacers or the Pacers they're the six seed. You're

2:09:15

playing the six seed in the conference final. You

2:09:18

know if you're not gonna win 18 banner

2:09:22

18 that's the whole thing about Boston Boston LA

2:09:24

they both got 17 banners. They both

2:09:26

won 18. When is

2:09:28

it gonna happen? Like I

2:09:30

mean yeah they've got an injury to Porzingis but look

2:09:32

at the other teams. Other teams have also had injuries

2:09:35

you know so it's

2:09:37

sitting there in Boston's lap. They gotta take it.

2:09:39

Also they haven't had to work they

2:09:42

hadn't had to stress the last half of the last quarter

2:09:44

season. They haven't really had to

2:09:46

stress in these playoffs. Like there's

2:09:49

just there's just no assuming

2:09:51

health. They got nothing to

2:09:53

they got no excuses. You're saying it's

2:09:55

now or never. Good non prediction

2:09:57

but I get what you're saying. Championship window.

2:10:00

on the Celtics if they don't know. You know, I will say

2:10:02

this, this year and next year, with where

2:10:04

the Celtics salaries are, because you look at

2:10:06

who they're paying, they're gonna have three

2:10:08

guys making 300 million. Porzingis,

2:10:11

what he's making, they have to pay

2:10:13

Derek White, they just extended Drew Holliday.

2:10:15

They are not the Clippers.

2:10:17

Their ownership does not have $120 billion.

2:10:21

They cannot, historically, they cannot pay

2:10:24

unlimited amount of luxury tax. Their

2:10:26

team is set up, this particular group is

2:10:28

set up for this year and next year.

2:10:31

Then I think they will have to potentially retrofit a little

2:10:33

bit. It doesn't mean they're not gonna have Tatum and Brown.

2:10:36

But if they're gonna win it, it was,

2:10:38

even if they were playing the 86th version

2:10:40

of the Celtics, or the 97 Bulls or

2:10:42

whatever, it was gonna be,

2:10:45

this was gonna be their prime, prime these two years.

2:10:47

So even more amped up, 2024 and 2025,

2:10:49

I'm sorry, are

2:10:52

where the Celtics have to hit it. And

2:10:54

this is a great opportunity right now. Okay,

2:10:56

all right, seize the day, sir. All right,

2:10:58

well, Wendy, you're the best. We

2:11:00

appreciate you, as always, go buy a book so we can

2:11:02

get an update on LeBron's strength. Thank

2:11:05

you so much, and we'll see you on

2:11:07

TV and hear you on podcasts. How

2:11:09

strong is Luca Garza? That is my message. He's

2:11:11

so strong. He's so strong. I think you said

2:11:14

so buff. Yeah, he's buff. That's different than strong,

2:11:16

by the way. Yeah, one tends

2:11:18

to go with the other, but Luca

2:11:20

Garza, I'm just telling you, man, don't

2:11:23

bleep talk, Luca Garza. Okay, all right, that's

2:11:26

good, good laughing advice. And tell us about

2:11:28

Kyrie's eclipse stats, too. Yeah, let us know.

2:11:30

I'm gonna get back to you on that.

2:11:32

Find one small part of his game, if

2:11:34

that's all that it takes. That's taken enormous

2:11:36

leaps since then. We'll just run with that.

2:11:38

Zone of totality. That's what they should call

2:11:40

his cheering section in Dallas, his zone of

2:11:42

totality. I love it, I love it. All

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right, thank you so much, Wendy. Take

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2:13:21

Hey guys Hey Hank, I

2:13:24

have sports theory about the PGA Oh I

2:13:27

have reasons to believe that Scotty was set up

2:13:29

to be arrested if you look at

2:13:31

the PGA numbers the day before it was Extremely down

2:13:33

and they've been down all season. I had that's a

2:13:35

little editorial ad oh So

2:13:37

oh that lit does live Hank. Mm-hmm. It's

2:13:40

just a fact They paid a cop

2:13:42

to tell Scotty the wrong information the

2:13:44

police department knew what time he'd be coming in and what car

2:13:46

he would be I believe it was set

2:13:49

up for large number of views the next couple days Xander

2:13:51

a PGA Stan was given the opportunity to

2:13:53

make a great story which he did the

2:13:55

story doesn't add up I'll be doing

2:13:57

more investigating to that subject. Have a great day. I like this

2:14:00

I like this a lot false flag arrest

2:14:02

look up our operation Northwoods. We have

2:14:04

a history of this type of stuff What

2:14:07

happened operation Northwoods? The CIA was trying to

2:14:09

have people hijack airplanes and then crash them

2:14:11

and then blame it on the government of

2:14:13

Cuba So we'd invade Cuba. Oh and then

2:14:15

John F Kennedy said No, we're

2:14:17

not gonna do that because we're not gonna murder our own

2:14:19

citizens and then the CIA killed him. Oh But

2:14:23

yeah Same thing same thing

2:14:25

happened with Scotty Sheffler Cuba arrested Scotty

2:14:27

Sheffler history doesn't necessarily repeat itself But

2:14:29

sometimes it rhymes. I I like this

2:14:31

take a lot I mean who

2:14:34

the cat that was a story that took

2:14:36

over the entire internet that Like

2:14:39

casual fans sports fans had to have

2:14:41

seen it would let everything and Scotty

2:14:43

winning would have been boring for the

2:14:45

sport Right. Mm-hmm. So they're like what

2:14:47

if Scotty winning with a felony? Well,

2:14:49

like how do we get him to

2:14:51

not win? Well, that wasn't why

2:14:54

he didn't win in win because he just didn't

2:14:56

have his caddy on Saturday Also Jeff to the

2:14:58

craziest story ever Jeff Darlington. He's

2:15:00

an NFL guy. Yeah, he happened to be there

2:15:03

Oh be the one that saw this interesting

2:15:05

that is interesting It's maybe Shefter cuz you

2:15:07

know Shefter's in the Illuminati. He probably was

2:15:09

like, I'll throw you a bone Jeff Darlington

2:15:12

Mm-hmm. You can have this one Well, I

2:15:14

was thinking that if it was a PGA

2:15:16

reporter if it was someone esteemed like true

2:15:18

and Rappaport that was there You would never

2:15:20

go along with anything like this true But

2:15:22

you call in a hired gun for me

2:15:24

not from the outside Darlington's your Patsy He

2:15:27

brings you and now you've got the report front

2:15:29

and center video evidence Why did it take an

2:15:31

hour for Jeff to release the video that he

2:15:33

took of Scotty getting arrested? Have you thought about

2:15:35

that one? He had the video before he had

2:15:37

the tweet but he put the tweet out first

2:15:39

then an hour later Put out

2:15:41

the video was edited. Yeah, he

2:15:43

had to send it back to Bristol. Yeah, this all

2:15:46

makes sense. I Like it.

2:15:48

Yeah, good day because they're scared of hank and the live

2:15:50

boys It's gonna

2:15:52

take an idea that will write all

2:15:54

that is wrong with this country Oh

2:15:56

prison league basketball is televised and

2:15:58

in ranked bracket winning

2:16:00

team is freed from prison yeah

2:16:03

okay yeah in yeah sure 100% in

2:16:05

what I heard was

2:16:07

more sports I'm

2:16:09

actually shocked that mr. beast hasn't figured out

2:16:11

a way to like do like a free

2:16:13

the prisoners I got a thousand prisoners and

2:16:16

I see which one could stand for the longest

2:16:20

like that doesn't that feel like something

2:16:22

he's maybe working on like squid

2:16:24

games yeah yeah I can see

2:16:26

it I built a giant horse and I put

2:16:28

a bunch of soldiers inside of it and now

2:16:30

we're wheeling it up to Moscow Russia to see

2:16:32

if they accept this gift yeah I

2:16:35

could see it for sure I have

2:16:37

a question that should have happened a few weeks

2:16:39

ago oh but do you think

2:16:42

when a player is surrounded by a bunch

2:16:44

of other four or five-star prospects that it

2:16:46

hurts a player's potential growth one

2:16:48

school that specifically comes to mind is Alabama

2:16:51

outside of a wide receiver running back to

2:16:53

historically don't have great NFL showing despite being

2:16:55

drafted high I am

2:16:57

not an Alabama hater not not but there

2:17:00

are many I think what he's talking about

2:17:02

is quarterback and Alabama Ohio State Clemson etc

2:17:04

that don't perform well in NFL offensive

2:17:07

linemen and quarterbacks stick out particularly

2:17:09

yeah so quarter I guess you

2:17:11

could say in recent history Alabama

2:17:14

earmuffs pick at no I know Ohio

2:17:16

State yeah Ohio State forever the quarterbacks don't

2:17:18

pan out maybe it's because they've got great

2:17:20

receipt they don't have to work on the

2:17:22

the small details as much as the guys

2:17:24

that that don't have all that talent around them but

2:17:27

then how would you explain Joe Burrow

2:17:30

fair point I'll see you right

2:17:32

he had a great receivers Justin Jefferson

2:17:35

like he had incredible receivers around him

2:17:38

but they're not traditionally a quarterback no but I'm saying

2:17:40

like how would you do it a guy like that

2:17:42

who was good in in

2:17:45

college with incredible talent and then also

2:17:47

good in the NFL he was actually

2:17:49

the double threat he was LSU and

2:17:51

Ohio State yeah no

2:17:54

this is a regular take I kind of agree with

2:17:56

it because you guys get you if you're

2:17:59

if everyone is always is open, it's going to be

2:18:01

easier and harder to great. But what

2:18:03

about quarterbacks that go to maybe

2:18:05

not as good of a program and they play worse

2:18:07

competition? So it's

2:18:09

easier for them because they're not playing as good

2:18:11

defenses. Josh Allen. Jay

2:18:14

Cutler was really the best example of

2:18:16

this. Yeah. Jay Cutler at

2:18:18

Vandy. Caleb Williams. Didn't have great receivers,

2:18:20

gets to the NFL, but he's still used to

2:18:22

playing against SEC defenses. It

2:18:25

turns out that it's just hard to pick quarterbacks.

2:18:27

Yeah, probably. Alright,

2:18:30

last one. The NBA season should start in

2:18:32

December and finals should finish first week of

2:18:34

August. Yes. Played fully indoors

2:18:36

so the weather doesn't matter. It fills the

2:18:38

void of no major sports in July and

2:18:40

early August. And it'd compete with

2:18:42

the NFL viewers for less than two months. Or

2:18:44

for two less months. Everybody wins.

2:18:46

I don't think it should go to August because

2:18:50

like when you're in July you don't want

2:18:52

to be sitting and side watching like

2:18:54

sports the whole time. If it's the NBA, if

2:18:56

it's like the conference championship. But I am a

2:18:58

big proponent of starting it like

2:19:01

60 game season started on December 25th.

2:19:03

Remember the year, the lockout year? Yeah. That

2:19:06

was awesome. It was good. Best

2:19:08

schedule. What if it was the NHL that did that? That

2:19:10

way you get to go to hockey games in July.

2:19:12

It's nice and cool in there. Yeah, I just think

2:19:14

that the like July

2:19:16

is very hard to get people to

2:19:18

watch. So yeah.

2:19:22

I think every sport outside of football

2:19:24

should do smaller seasons. Like

2:19:28

60 games in the NHL and the NBA it

2:19:30

feels like it would be you just

2:19:32

have more at stake. MLB

2:19:34

should be like 120. Yeah.

2:19:38

Yeah. Yeah. Because that's really and you

2:19:40

can't do 18 games or 17 games like they do

2:19:42

in the NFL. But that's why the NFL, part of

2:19:44

the reason why the NFL is so

2:19:47

highly rated and so widely popular

2:19:49

is every single week matters. There's

2:19:51

only 17 of them. I

2:19:54

can imagine that. What are the average

2:19:56

like ticket gates for NBA games in

2:19:58

the month of November? Still,

2:20:01

I mean, in big cities, probably still very

2:20:03

deep. They're still making enough money where the

2:20:05

owners will never agree to... Yeah, no, they'll

2:20:07

never shorten it. Because also that's less TV

2:20:09

revenue. True. Like if anything,

2:20:11

they'll probably do more games. Maybe some double headers. Yeah,

2:20:14

double headers. That'd be sick. Double header NBA game

2:20:16

would be awesome. It'd be great. Yeah.

2:20:19

Load management, tips would love some double

2:20:21

headers. Or just have it be like,

2:20:24

have like AAU week, where

2:20:26

it's like every team plays, they

2:20:28

play double headers and also

2:20:31

every single day. Like they do a full

2:20:33

tournament for five days straight. Yeah. Just

2:20:36

knock out 15 games. Yeah, that would rock. That's

2:20:38

what they used to do in UFC too. Yeah. It would

2:20:40

just be like you have to keep fighting this entire weekend.

2:20:42

Yeah. I do think the NBA should... I

2:20:45

actually think one thing the NBA could fix... For

2:20:49

the most of the NBA season, it's what, like three games a

2:20:51

week? Right? If

2:20:53

the NBA should do a consistent...

2:20:57

Call it Tuesday, Friday, or whatever you want to

2:20:59

do, where it's like these are the two days

2:21:01

that everyone plays. So people can start getting their

2:21:03

schedules around it. Where it's like, I don't know

2:21:05

how it would actually work out if there's enough

2:21:07

games. But like if you had an actual day

2:21:09

where it's like, these are the days that are

2:21:11

played, Tuesday, Friday, you know you're going to get

2:21:14

to see like the entire full

2:21:16

slate of NBA. I think that'd be cool. It's

2:21:18

like in football, you know that the games are

2:21:20

going to be on Sunday and then Mondays and

2:21:23

then sometimes Wednesdays and then every Thursday.

2:21:25

And then also some Fridays. Black Friday

2:21:27

and Saturdays too late in the season. They

2:21:29

make it very easy for football fans to know

2:21:32

when the games are on. There's only six

2:21:34

to seven days. Yes.

2:21:36

Except for COVID. There was a Tuesday night. There was

2:21:38

a Tuesday night football. And we have Brazil Friday this

2:21:40

year, week one. Brazil Friday. And

2:21:42

the Black Friday last year. Let's go birds. Yeah.

2:21:45

What was that? Let's go birds. The birds

2:21:47

played Brazil. How do you think the bird season is going to

2:21:50

go this year? Great. Why?

2:21:53

Why do you say it like that? Tough division. Are you worried

2:21:55

at all that? you

2:22:00

got the guy the

2:22:04

word it's too early for you it goes it goes

2:22:06

directly from Embiid season to jail are

2:22:08

you just are you sure oh yeah couldn't be

2:22:10

100% the guy 100% okay 100% Nick Sirianni jail

2:22:15

on her you think he's the guy the Sirianni

2:22:17

could be could be back I'm

2:22:20

pretty confident I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm going

2:22:22

in this season optimistic with Sirianni we got

2:22:24

good coordinators this year didn't have good coordinators

2:22:26

last year we're men this isn't

2:22:29

this is an Eagles talk okay well you you

2:22:31

said go bird you said the Brazil game

2:22:33

no no no Jake said the Brazil game

2:22:35

the booth started the Eagles talk we were

2:22:38

talking about days yeah sorry bird I

2:22:40

was no Jake don't don't apologize that

2:22:42

we're we're having a days conversation and then

2:22:44

and then Max had to insert his birds

2:22:46

into a conversation well you bring up the

2:22:48

birds I got a it's my

2:22:50

god-given right to say go birds it

2:22:53

was very funny Max to the interview what

2:22:56

what's the show's name Barcelona

2:22:58

breakdown Barcelona breakdown those guys are awesome

2:23:00

yet but Max did interview was retelling

2:23:03

coming on part my take and Hank

2:23:05

telling him like hey like this

2:23:07

is gonna work out because you're big Billy guy like

2:23:09

big cat said he wants a big filly guy and

2:23:11

Max said back to Hank like okay but I don't

2:23:14

really know when that's gonna come up

2:23:17

I yeah that that's it happen

2:23:21

what okay uh

2:23:23

let's just show numbers 8 46 20

2:23:27

all the dead heat I

2:23:31

was a dead he'd like big

2:23:33

rock there's a shoe for egg

2:23:35

I mean 18 we're still yeah

2:23:38

no I mean I'm a rider dead heat

2:23:41

who got it you

2:23:45

got it looks like big cats

2:23:47

like alright let's go all right

2:23:49

Shane Shane

2:23:51

99 pug change

2:23:53

engine 21 3 has

2:24:00

a chance to do the funniest thing right now. Let's

2:24:09

go! 46! That's

2:24:12

me. You got it? Yeah. Wait, seriously? Yeah. Oh, I

2:24:14

didn't even hear you said it. You're not even that

2:24:16

excited, Hank. We got it. We got it.

2:24:18

It's easy to do. Good job, Hank. 46,

2:24:21

Jordy, 40. Dude! Really happy for you. It's so fucking

2:24:23

easy to do, right? Max,

2:24:26

did you take anything from that? Like, that was Hank

2:24:29

just showed you how fucking easy this is. I know.

2:24:31

He showed PFD and I it's really easy. No, he

2:24:33

showed you. No, he showed me. Hank,

2:24:36

were you showing me? Yeah, I didn't like that you were reacting

2:24:38

that way. Were you showing me or were you showing Max how

2:24:40

easy it was? I mean, Max is one of those things where

2:24:42

he's just a loser. Right, exactly! It's fun to win in his

2:24:44

face, but it's also like he's never gonna get there. Right, he's

2:24:46

never gonna get it. I have gotten it. You know that he's

2:24:49

never gonna get it. I have gotten it. No, no. No, you

2:24:51

haven't. No, you haven't. I got

2:24:53

it in New York before you did, buddy. Doesn't matter.

2:24:55

I feel like 46 has come up a lot. Easy,

2:24:58

Hank. I just started picking it. Yeah, Hank, that

2:25:00

wasn't even, you didn't even react. It's a good

2:25:02

luck. Let's go. Good luck numbers. Third time.

2:25:04

I'm part of my balls.com. 20 sucks. Hank

2:25:06

is a fucking beast at this. Good work,

2:25:08

Hank. Yeah, Max, just one. PFD.

2:25:11

Hank, real quick, how

2:25:13

did you do that? You

2:25:16

know, uh. How did

2:25:18

you do it? I just, I just picked two numbers that were good

2:25:20

luck, you know. Reminded me of some

2:25:23

friends, and those are their lucky numbers, so I combined

2:25:25

them. Joe Biden? Yeah. And you just, you just said

2:25:27

the number, right? Yeah, 46. And then it. PFT, we

2:25:29

can learn from this. The number came up? It

2:25:32

just popped right up. We can learn from

2:25:34

this. Did you say 46? Yeah, that was impressive. I've

2:25:36

been saying it. Okay. No, that was good. Because I,

2:25:39

like, your reaction has me very confused. Max, you're talking

2:25:41

a lot. I just, it's like I've already won before.

2:25:43

I know. You know, Max, you're talking

2:25:45

a whole lot right now. For

2:25:47

someone who's not mad. I'm

2:25:50

not mad. I'm just, I mean, it's something we

2:25:52

can learn on. Learn from? Learn

2:25:54

from. Learn from. Listen, Max, I don't give

2:25:56

a fuck about the lottery machine. Yeah, me

2:25:58

neither. Again, you're talking

2:26:00

a lot. Jesus Christ, Max. Uh, I don't give

2:26:02

a fuck about it. It's just numbers. It's gonna

2:26:05

happen eventually. It's just statistics for me, so I'm

2:26:07

not concerned at all about it. That's why I'm

2:26:09

not forcing myself to nod my head a lot

2:26:11

and say, yeah, I'm gonna get this. PFT, you're

2:26:14

gonna get this. You're not gonna

2:26:16

get it because you're so nervous about it. You're

2:26:18

gonna psych yourself out. The lottery ball knows. It's

2:26:20

like a dog. They smell the fear. They

2:26:22

don't want anything to do with it. Max hates dogs, too. Right.

2:26:26

That was so good, Hank. Thank you. You're the fucking

2:26:28

man. Thank you. Max. Maybe

2:26:30

wake up tomorrow and be like, how can I be more like

2:26:32

Hank? Well, actually,

2:26:34

no, that wouldn't be waking up. Maybe sleep in tomorrow and

2:26:36

be like, how can I be more like Hank? Love

2:26:39

you guys. I

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