In this episode, hosts Payal Nanavati and Joe Records are joined by Xavier Baker and special guest Tim Murray, Director & Senior Consulting Actuary in Wakely Consulting Group’s New York office, to discuss the actuarial perspective on the cost of COVID-19. Payers, Providers, and Patients – Oh My! is Crowell & Moring’s biweekly health care podcast, discussing legal and regulatory issues that affect health care entities’ in-house counsel, executives, and investors.