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on PBS News Weekend, what
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Atlanta's recent water-made break says
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about America's aging infrastructure. Then
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a new vaccine with the potential
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to eradicate one of the world's
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deadliest diseases, malaria. And
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a new book seeks to explain
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gender identity and the best practices
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retreating transgender youth. I
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have patients who become severely depressed and
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anxious when their bodies start developing in
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a way that doesn't align with their
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gender identity. And we have more and
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more research studies showing that when we
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offer these kids relief with these interventions that their
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mental health is a lot better. Good
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evening. I'm John Yang. The
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day after Israel rescued four hostages
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from Gaza, Palestinians assessed the high
1:25
cost of that operation, one of
1:27
the deadliest days of the eight-month
1:29
war. The Gaza health ministry says
1:32
274 Palestinians were killed and 700 others wounded
1:36
during the Israeli assault inside the
1:39
Nusarat refugee camp. Today, there were
1:41
more Israeli airstrikes in Central Gaza.
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The military says it's targeting Hamas
1:45
infrastructure. Palestinians say enough
1:48
is enough. For
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the millionth time, we deliver a message to the international
1:54
community. We do not want to stop the
1:56
war. We do not know what to
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go. They move us from right to left and
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from left to right. They tell us to go
2:04
to the south, come to the center. Centrist
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Benny Gantz made good on his threat
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to quit Israel's war cabinet over Prime
2:12
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's handling of the war.
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While underscoring the fractures and frustrations of
2:16
the nation's leadership, it's not likely to
2:19
force Netanyahu from office. Exit
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polls in today's European Union parliamentary elections
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are pointing to a shift to the
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hard right. It was voting
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in 27 EU nations. The big
2:30
issues included the war in Ukraine,
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migration, climate policy and the economy.
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I voted with high prices in mind. Prices
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are going up every day and people cannot
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deal with it. I
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hope my vote and the votes of other young
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people can prevail and show that the far right
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can be stopped more than it has been so
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far. Indications that this
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party is headed for a big loss
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has prompted French President Emmanuel Macron to
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dissolve Parliament and call for new elections.
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In France, President Biden ended his five-day
3:04
visit with a trip to a U.S.
3:06
World War I cemetery outside Paris. Mr.
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Biden and First Lady Jill Biden paid respects to
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the more than 2,200 U.S.
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troops buried there. The president also
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said there's a deal with France to
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use profits from frozen Russian assets
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to help Ukraine. Still
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to come on PBS News Weekend,
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a new vaccine fuels hopes of
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eradicating malaria. And a
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new book delves into the science
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and personal stories behind young people
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struggling with gender identity. This
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is PBS News Weekend from WETA
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Studios in Washington, home of the
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PBS News Hour, weeknights on PBS.
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For nearly a week earlier this month,
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the sixth largest city in one of
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the world's wealthiest nations told its residents
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to boil the tap water because it
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may have been contaminated. That
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city was Atlanta. U.S. drinking
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water is among the world's safest and
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most reliable, but an aging infrastructure is
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posing challenges. The American Society
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of Civil Engineers estimates that there's a
4:12
water main break every two minutes. Earlier,
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I spoke with Shannon Marquez, professor of
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environmental health sciences at Columbia University's School
4:19
of Public Health. I asked her why
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these problems are so common in the
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United States. Well, you
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know, there are a combination of things that are
4:28
happening now, John. Aging infrastructure
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from years of neglect, under-financed
4:34
systems, and
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having to make decisions that
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are more like band-aid approaches
4:40
to addressing these challenges
4:43
as opposed to
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comprehensive rehabilitation. That
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coupled with what we are seeing
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with extreme weather events and climate
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change are also really
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putting our water systems in
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jeopardy. Many of these
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systems were constructed for a capacity
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that is really outgrown now at
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this point. Why the neglect? Why
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the band-aid approach? Is this just out of
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sight, out of mind? Well, in
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fact, if you think about what it's
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going to take to overhaul these systems,
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the amount of finance, the
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reality is that water utilities are faced
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with just being able to do what
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they can, patch the holes as they
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come, patch the main breaks as they
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come. And there's not enough
5:27
resources. It really is going to require federal-level
5:30
efforts. And although we have the
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infrastructure bill, it's not nearly enough
5:35
to really overcome these challenges.
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One of the other challenges
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is the diversity of water
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systems. The reality is that
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the governance and regulations around
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publicly-owned treatment works versus community
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water systems. There is
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just a huge array of
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regs, and the structure of
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that makes it very inefficient. So the
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reality is, depending on the size and
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the age of... There are going to
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be different problems. There's not a one
6:03
size fits all solution to this problem.
6:06
How much would it take to really fix
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the system? Is it more that
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the federal government has to do it or is it
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the problem that we have this sort of confederation
6:15
of local independent water systems?
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So there's going to be a tremendous
6:20
need with this funding gap. I mean,
6:22
the $55 billion that set aside is
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not nearly enough partially
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because we also
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need to think about new
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approaches connecting these nodes. There
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are something like 50 or 60,000 independent
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water systems in this country. And
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the reality is if you look at
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the growth and being more efficient, we
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need to come up with ways to
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connect them so that we can actually
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also address these challenges. It's
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going to take far more as well because
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we don't even have the data. We don't
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actually have the information to know what
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all the challenges are. What
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we are doing now is just reacting. Are
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there ways to get around the problem of, as
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you say, in poor communities, underserved communities, is
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there a way to get around that so
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that the funding and the support is a
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little more even among communities?
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Well, definitely I think we have to
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have some creative investments, right?
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We really need to think about
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partnering in ways that create solutions
7:22
that make the funds more accessible.
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So oftentimes, even when these programs, the
7:27
loan programs are available, sometimes communities are
7:30
missing out because they simply can't put
7:32
together the package, the proposal to apply
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for the funding. And then I also
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think that particularly in election years, like
7:39
now, we need to think about how
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water is a pressing
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political issue akin to
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whether it's healthcare or education.
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We need to hold our
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government officials accountable at all
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levels to ensure that they're
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also thinking about this and
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prioritizing it because... we know
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it's disenfranchising the poor disproportionately. And
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so it needs to be on
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the agenda in ways where we've
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never seen it before. We've
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covered on this, on this broadcast, water
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problems in Flint, Michigan, in Benton
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Harbor, Michigan, and Jackson, Mississippi. Is
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it a coincidence that these are
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all, but nor
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majority black cities? No,
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it's not a coincidence. I mean,
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if you look at sort of
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the tenants of environmental racism, and
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if you look at the troubled
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history we've had in this country,
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it is not a coincidence that
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once again, the disenfranchised
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tend to be those
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that have had really
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disproportional impacts on
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their livelihood across the board.
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So whether it's health or
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education, these communities are facing
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the same challenges. And so
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this water issue is just overlaid
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in the same way. And
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so that should not be surprising to us.
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What is surprising is how
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we continue to neglect these
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very same communities. And so
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whether we're talking about, again,
9:08
the education system in those
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communities or health care and
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access to health care. And
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now thinking about water, just
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the mere fact that you're living in the
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U.S. and are planning
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your day relative to how you're
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going to access safe drinking
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water. It's quite shocking. Shannon
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Marquez of Columbia University, thank you very
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much. Thanks so much, John. Area
9:42
is one of the world's deadliest
9:44
diseases throughout Africa every year. It
9:46
kills nearly a half million children
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younger than five. But a
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new vaccine, only the second of
9:52
its kind, holds the promise of
9:54
saving thousands of lives and moving
9:56
closer to eradicating malaria. Ali Rogan
9:58
has more. At
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the end of May, the Central
10:02
African Republic became the first country
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to receive doses of the new
10:06
R21 Matrix M malaria vaccine. It's
10:08
intended for children between five months
10:10
and three years old who were
10:12
among the most vulnerable to the
10:14
disease. UNICEF, the U.N.'s
10:17
main organization for children, says eight countries
10:19
in Africa are set to receive these
10:21
R21 shipments. And
10:23
experts say two vaccines are exponentially
10:25
better than one, helping not just
10:27
to immunize more people, but to
10:29
reduce the illness's spread. Andrew
10:32
Jones is the deputy director of immunization
10:34
supplies for UNICEF. Andrew, thank you so
10:37
much for joining me. The first vaccine
10:39
was rolled out, approved more than two
10:41
and a half years ago. So
10:44
what are the differences between this vaccine
10:46
and the vaccine that was already available?
10:48
They're very similar vaccines. In fact, the
10:51
first vaccine, which is called
10:53
RTSS manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline, is
10:56
largely a copy of
10:58
this vaccine. So they're expected to have
11:01
similar impact in kids. The big difference
11:03
when RTSS was released, it was being
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manufactured in Belgium and it was being
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manufactured at relatively old plants.
11:11
There were quite limited in capacity, which was
11:13
a challenge because, as you
11:15
can imagine, the demand for this vaccine
11:17
has been massive. And so this second
11:19
vaccine has a much greater supply. The
11:22
other point to note is that the first
11:24
vaccine has to be combined. It comes in
11:27
a powder and a diluent, so you mix
11:29
the two together, whereas this R21 vaccine is
11:32
fully liquid. So it's a little bit easier to use
11:34
in the field. Do you have any sense
11:37
of how many additional people are going to
11:39
be able to be vaccinated now that there's
11:41
two versions on the market? Well,
11:43
the initial rollout starts a bit slow. I mean,
11:45
it's kind of one of these exponential things where
11:47
the demand has been pending for a while and
11:49
then the message to countries was, well, you know,
11:51
you're going to have to be a little patient.
11:54
This is going to take some time. And so
11:56
one of the differences with this
11:58
vaccine compared to normal childhood other
14:00
vaccines against other parasitic diseases?
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Yeah, it's a good question. So the malaria
14:04
parasite is a very tricky parasite.
14:07
It's always shifting and changing. Even this
14:09
vaccine is 40 or
14:12
so percent effective. Again, much
14:15
like as you know, on COVID is the time
14:17
after the vaccination goes, your sort of
14:19
protection drops. So it's not as if it's like
14:21
a single point, right? It's changing. But
14:24
40% of a big number is still a big number. Certainly
14:28
people who want to eradicate malaria want to see a
14:30
vaccine that's 80, 90% effective, where
14:32
you can really look at disease
14:34
elimination. There are other products
14:36
in development still a few years out that are aiming to
14:38
do more in terms
14:41
of eradicating the disease. And I
14:43
think with everything we do, we learn more. There
14:46
is new TB vaccines that are underway.
14:48
There's talk about an HIV vaccine trials.
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And we would expect for something like
14:52
an HIV vaccine, for example, we'd also
14:55
see something that wasn't 90% effective. So
14:58
even this idea from a
15:00
program perspective, we're working with a vaccine
15:02
that's partially effective. And what does that
15:04
mean for your strategies is an important
15:06
learning experience. Andrew Jones, Deputy Director
15:09
for Immunization Supplies with UNICEF. Thank you
15:11
so much. Thank you. According
15:22
to the advocacy group, the Human
15:24
Rights Campaign, half of the states
15:26
in America have passed laws or
15:28
policies restricting treatment for young people
15:30
diagnosed with gender dysphoria. That's the
15:33
discomfort or distress that might occur
15:35
when someone's gender identity differs from
15:37
their sex assigned at birth. Some
15:39
of those laws are on hold
15:41
while court challenges work their way
15:43
through the system. The
15:45
legislative debate on these measures has often
15:47
been long on emotion, but short on
15:49
science and medicine. A new book
15:51
seeks to use science and research to
15:53
explain gender identity and treatments for
15:56
transgender youth. It's called Free to
15:58
Be, understanding kids... gender identity.
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The author is Dr. Jack Turban.
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He's the founding director of the
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Gender Psychiatry Program at the University
16:07
of California, San Francisco. Dr. Turban,
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thanks for joining us. Let's begin
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with sort of the basics, gender
16:13
identity, sex assigned at birth. What do
16:15
they mean? And how can they be different? So,
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gender identity is your psychological sense of
16:20
yourself in terms of masculinity and femininity.
16:23
It's extraordinarily complicated, right? We know from research
16:25
that there is a biological basis of
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how we think about ourselves in terms
16:29
of gender, but then we interact
16:31
with society and culture to create this really complex
16:34
understanding of who we are and how we think
16:36
about ourselves. Sex assigned
16:38
at birth, also unfortunately complicated. It could
16:41
be based on your chromosomes, based
16:43
on different sex organs. But,
16:46
generally, there are these biological characteristics that
16:49
end up being on your birth certificate. And so,
16:52
when I say sex assigned at birth, I'm usually
16:54
referring to what's on someone's birth certificate. And when
16:56
they conflict, what happens? So,
16:58
for most people, their gender identity aligns
17:00
more or less with their sex assigned
17:02
at birth. But a lot of my
17:04
patients, there's a misalignment. And
17:07
so, they may identify as transgender
17:09
or gender nonbinary, which
17:11
just means that they have a sense of
17:13
themselves that doesn't align with their sex assigned
17:15
at birth. For some of those kids, they
17:17
have really intense gender dysphoria, where there's distress
17:19
related to their body not aligning with their
17:21
gender identities. For other kids, they don't have
17:24
so much distress about their body. And so,
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the big thing I try and explain in
17:28
the book is just this nuance of what
17:30
gender-related experiences are like and what those experiences
17:32
are like for all different kids. Early on
17:34
in the book, you quote an endocrinologist named
17:36
Dr. Norman Speck, who's sort of a
17:38
leader in this field, as saying, being
17:40
transgender isn't a condition of the brain,
17:43
but of the body. Explain that. Yeah, so
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he's an endocrinologist. I'm a psychiatrist. We think
17:48
about it a little bit differently. The way
17:50
he thinks about it is that their body
17:52
has betrayed them, essentially, that their gender identity
17:54
is who they are. And that's what's important
17:56
in the endocrine interventions that he offers for
17:58
some young people. are meant to
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align the body with the gender identity that
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he thinks is really the core of who
18:05
those people are. And having said that, what
18:07
are the implications of that for
18:09
treatment of young people who
18:11
are transgender? The way in reality
18:13
we approach these kids is they have
18:16
a comprehensive mental health evaluation to really
18:18
understand their gender history, what
18:20
other mental health conditions they may have, and
18:22
also understand their relationship with their physical bodies.
18:25
And so for some of these young people,
18:27
but not all, they might be candidates for
18:30
certain medical interventions. So things like puberty blockers
18:32
or gender-affirming hormones like estrogen or testosterone. Now,
18:34
a lot of these laws that have been
18:36
passed in the States limit
18:39
treatments on transgender
18:41
minors, young people. They say
18:43
that they're trying to protect them. You're saying they're
18:45
actually harming them. Explain that. So for
18:47
a lot of these kids, these are
18:49
really important interventions that improve their mental
18:51
health. So I have patients who become
18:53
severely depressed and anxious when their bodies
18:55
start developing in a way that doesn't
18:58
align with their gender identity. And
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we have more and more research studies showing that when
19:02
we offer these kids relief with these interventions that their
19:04
mental health is a lot better. So
19:07
unfortunately, these bills just ban the treatment
19:09
altogether so that none of the kids
19:12
can access these treatments that we
19:14
see help them. A lot of the support
19:16
of these bills also point to Europe, where
19:18
some countries are banning puberty blockers, other treatments.
19:20
There's a pediatrician in Britain named Hilary Cass
19:23
who was commissioned to review the scientific data
19:25
on this. And she said it was remarkably
19:27
weak. What do you say to that? I
19:29
think a lot of people don't realize the
19:32
nuances that were in that document. And in a
19:34
lot of ways, it actually agrees with how we
19:36
practice care in the United States. So
19:38
it recommended that you should do a comprehensive
19:40
mental health evaluation before starting these interventions. They
19:43
should have a holistic view of the young
19:45
person to understand if there are both medical
19:47
and non-medical interventions that might be appropriate. The
19:50
big area of divergence between her report
19:53
and how doctors think in the United States
19:55
is that she recommended that treatment only be
19:57
provided in the context of a clinical trial.
20:00
collecting more data. I think U.S. doctors
20:02
don't quite agree with that, because they
20:04
worry about coercing people into clinical trials,
20:07
and also that it just may not be feasible, that
20:09
there are so many of these young people who need
20:11
care that we wouldn't be able to set that clinical
20:13
trial up. You used the word coercion. Some of the
20:15
supporters of these bills also talk about young people somehow
20:17
being persuaded, somehow being coerced
20:19
into being transgender. What would you say
20:22
to that? Yeah, I think that's
20:24
more, unfortunately, a political talking
20:26
point than the reality of care. When
20:28
patients come to see me, if anything,
20:31
they're frustrated that I'm really slowing them
20:33
down. We're doing these comprehensive mental health
20:35
evaluations, making sure they really understand what
20:37
these treatments do, what they don't do.
20:39
There are difficult conversations to be had,
20:42
including around things like fertility preservation. For
20:45
these kids, that's often very difficult, because
20:47
it can exacerbate their gender dysphoria to
20:49
go through that process. And
20:51
most kids don't even access the care, because there
20:54
is such a strain on the system. They need
20:56
to find a therapist who can do that mental
20:58
health evaluation. Then they need to get
21:00
into the clinic. Then they really need to get all
21:02
the education from the doctors to their family. So
21:05
it's really a slow, involved process. And
21:07
I would say the
21:09
opposite of anyone being rushed into it or certainly
21:11
not pushed into it. Your book
21:13
illustrates a lot of your points using case
21:16
histories, using some of the patients you've been treating over
21:18
the years. How long have you been doing this? And
21:20
what drew you to this field? Yeah,
21:22
I first came to this about a decade
21:24
ago as a medical student
21:27
at the time, actually. And my mentor
21:29
was a journalist. And so
21:31
before I even finished medical school, I
21:33
was interviewing doctors who were taking care
21:35
of these kids. And
21:37
I met doctors who did
21:40
essentially conversion efforts or trying to force these kids
21:42
to be cisgender. They were not having very good
21:44
success. I met doctors who were
21:46
practicing this affirming model of care, which
21:48
just means supporting the kids, sometimes with medical
21:50
interventions, sometimes with simple things like a new
21:53
name or pronouns, helping them talk to their
21:55
family about it. And I
21:57
was just really struck by the
21:59
experiences.
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