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and a vox media podcast network i'm sarah

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swisher

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and i'm in a relationship with a quarter

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of a million people care

1:55

you are i see that i know you texted

1:57

me in in the middle of the night which i ignored

1:59

completely

1:59

now i do see him what i

2:02

say do good work on my blog a

2:04

match us up i think it's going to get reaction side my

2:06

the economy and various topics

2:08

of insects and all anyone has emailing me about

2:10

them when i say anyone i mean a couple dozen people

2:12

a day says why are you moving to london

2:15

and what procedure to death

2:17

though you mentioned in passing that

2:19

you'll be attending a lot more chelsea football games

2:21

over there

2:22

there from of their at chelsea spilled

2:24

a little there was a good in your time story about all

2:26

the

2:27

the hubbub inside the company the tell us

2:29

about london tell us about why

2:31

you are moving to london am i

2:33

know you need to be near the queen

2:35

the last moments by what what is the

2:37

reasons what's the reasons he so are a

2:39

lot a lot of people a lot of people that

2:41

are you moving hazard

2:43

guns are roller and

2:46

i didn't need the all cancers i am moving because

2:48

of america but not not because anything

2:50

bad about america as a function of how wonderful america

2:52

spencer may i have the opportunity

2:55

to expose my kids to different called sir

2:58

the opportunity go back to play suppose silva

3:00

calling as my dad and mother

3:02

or from glasgow and london the

3:04

effectively i have a chance to

3:07

then a lot of time and beautiful places with

3:10

great food and and and you

3:12

know and wonderful calls herself the

3:15

honest answers i'm moving to london because i can

3:17

and i want my kids

3:20

don't buy a out a we can do better

3:22

that we wanted to different the and

3:25

i'm on the last because of your wife was also

3:27

from europe the sec around are

3:29

born in poland my son germany and is it i

3:31

mean the reality is because of incredible opportunities

3:34

this amazing countries are afforded me i have the

3:36

opportunity to live in another country

3:37

the why why london vs

3:39

no no krakauer wherever germany

3:41

berliners if it if you like cities which i do

3:44

i think i spent probably sixty

3:46

days and seventeen of the twenty the world's

3:48

great super series is he likes it is

3:52

fighting new york is probably edges

3:54

out as number one but i think london is

3:56

number two adding one adults as an amazing

3:58

city and city need a place where they can see speaking

4:00

i suppose i could potentially was theoretically

4:03

get some work done london has gone through because

4:05

of private property laws which have had some externalities

4:07

that based in london has had the a cousin of a two

4:09

or three title a facelift of the last one he has

4:11

one is amazing city residents i was just there

4:14

it's really is very vibrant son it's it's

4:16

it's a very far suffer it's are you gonna

4:18

miss florida afford it's been wonderful

4:20

last it's an a grade claudia live

4:22

on on politics but we

4:24

have wonderful friends there and

4:26

it's been wonderful for our kids so

4:29

, but i i've no

4:31

desire to this is as a lot about america

4:33

i don't like that i owe most

4:35

or all to the country are i owe a lot of

4:37

florida of i don't think will move

4:39

back to florida to be bought by tom

4:42

it's been a wonderful decade there and

4:44

it's you know what it is at this point it's

4:47

here i mean i'm getting worse and amount of florida

4:49

that's where we raise our kids that's what

4:51

you want from fly through lives you want to

4:53

secure a loving place fear to

4:55

raise a family in florida spend that in spades

4:57

so in , i feel very

4:59

positive about ,

5:02

people in the last on florida right

5:04

but the politics yeah

5:07

but you know what you tell that to finalize

5:09

who he can actually but okay

5:11

okay they're gonna be really upset

5:14

that is understandable

5:15

that is correct that is correct i

5:17

am speaking which today will discuss how

5:19

corporations are responding to the repeal

5:21

of roe v wade also there's some

5:23

rare good news for the ceo of

5:25

disney bob to will hear from

5:27

a listener with a question about pizza

5:29

the first the fall out some cassidy

5:31

hutchinson blockbuster january six testimony

5:34

let's listen to a clip

5:36

i said about and

5:39

or station

5:41

definitely never been resisting

5:43

i overheard the president makes defacto

5:47

item as as they have weapons

5:49

they're not here to hear me say something nice

5:52

all let my people and in march

5:54

the causal some here in of the people and

5:56

to something like the way

5:58

though arm up and

5:59

them to the capital which is look

6:02

what happened the committee wants the house the

6:04

white house counsel patsy baloney to testify

6:06

issuing a subpoena for assess the my his so far

6:09

resisted publicly testify even though he seems

6:11

like he tried to do the right thing every time

6:13

trump tried to break the law or allegedly tried

6:15

to break the law john easement is dropping his

6:18

said to keep his phone records from the committee

6:20

problematic for the president i suspect any

6:22

thomas' lawyer the wife of clarence thomas

6:25

says , wants a testify and

6:27

that there is no quote know sufficient basis for

6:29

her to do so so

6:31

jenny whenever he whenever or

6:33

the hearing serving effect on what the democrats

6:35

want what'd you think of these hearings and will the

6:38

job you just put it's fingers and as you think a lot

6:40

of people pretty appalled after this testimony

6:43

by a young woman who was clearly who of

6:46

the , trump movement is

6:48

a lot of women actually have stepped out of that so

6:51

they're did they're right wing is trying to punch holes and her

6:53

testimony as the if there's

6:56

enough i think it's difficult but what do you think

6:58

i think of moscow of well played

7:00

her testimony ml highlights her

7:03

as as what it makes a credible witness

7:06

isn't it really is difficult to imagine a

7:08

more credible witness because he got ago and sometimes

7:10

you gotta gotta kind of complex in the way they present

7:12

themselves crisis can't say oh exactly

7:16

is she has disincentives from what

7:18

she said she's worked for ted cruz's

7:20

mark matter students ah she

7:22

was very yet the lead to an

7:24

eye that but with where you gained

7:26

you gained expertise and again i was like the time

7:28

reverse engineering to a lesser for young person

7:31

the way one of the ways you demonstrated

7:33

domain expertise is to on

7:35

a regular basis acknowledge

7:37

the you don't know and she was careful

7:39

to do that she was careful to say on

7:41

several occasions i don't know i wasn't

7:43

in the room or i'm not sure you could say

7:46

that people would try and lead her

7:48

and she would say no i i didn't hear that

7:50

and a she came across is not

7:53

emotional she came across

7:55

as just a a a it she put

7:57

on a master class what

7:59

did it's to be a credible witness and

8:01

i don't think you asked about the hearings i

8:04

admire i i've i've always felt and i

8:06

i resent the democratic party because i think were

8:08

ineffective and stupid i

8:10

think we're right but right think were ineffective and stupid

8:13

and stupid dunno which is worse whether to be wrong or ineffective

8:15

which is the two parties are now but i

8:17

thought the january six hearings they really got their act

8:20

together and they have played for the crowd

8:22

and sins of the way they have orchestrated it

8:25

the way they have led and sees

8:27

the hearings their use of social media

8:30

the way they're frame things even

8:32

a camera shots and aligning they like debit

8:34

or not yeah they've done i think a fantastic

8:37

job i don't think it seems that this one i think

8:39

we're so polarized i'm not sure it changes

8:41

a lot of opinions but i do think

8:43

care for the first time i asked ugly the presents

8:45

can be indicted because now there

8:47

is evidence that to max him

8:50

to in intend to incite

8:52

violence yeah am that that

8:54

consider an indictment so i

8:56

think that

8:57

it has a huge effect on trump is

9:00

you're seeing you seeing a lot of

9:01

public and the like whoa whoa in

9:03

my mom's like whoa this is this

9:05

is your problem

9:06

it even if they don't believe that nike

9:09

trying the with something it's not earning

9:11

trump is losing enormous granted think that's

9:13

the point years we can't have this man and office

9:15

again is it

9:16

dangerous a character and you know

9:19

you can have your problems with run dissenters

9:21

i have enormous proms is rhonda santas

9:23

or trump lights but the

9:25

i'd i'd

9:26

now imagine he would try an insurrection i just

9:28

for some reason i feel as if perhaps it would

9:30

stop there and they all have to pay lip

9:32

service to the ridiculous election like

9:34

whenever the but the but the last

9:36

around and a bunch of primaries in color

9:37

do a number of election

9:40

, deny er er over

9:42

election deny years which was a

9:44

good sign for the republican primaries republican

9:47

, people are getting will tire to trump and

9:49

it's at you can see it would to santa sort

9:51

of coming up as and young can

9:53

the young kids in virginia there's all

9:55

kinds of activity

9:57

among republicans trying to both

9:59

you

9:59

trump as i love the trump but

10:02

try to get rid of the actual trump you

10:04

know the actual person at act

10:06

cassidy hutchinson also said trump through

10:08

this is the wall no surprise to me

10:10

country did it many times which sort of insinuated

10:12

and left a trail of catch-up after she

10:14

heard, after he heard that bill barr

10:17

was said there was no election fraud which

10:19

gave us the best tweet of day from justin

10:21

chang, we probably should have known

10:24

that presidency would end with ketchup dripping

10:26

down a wall, but then hindsight

10:28

is 20-20 it's

10:31

shocking

10:34

that anyone shock, but i think there's some

10:36

nuance i don't think think of people

10:38

who likes trump still like him, i think the way

10:40

it's hurt him is , people

10:42

now believe even if they liked him just

10:45

as much as they did before or they don't

10:47

believe what's being said here they

10:49

believe he has a less viable candidate

10:51

and everyone wants to back a winner winner

10:53

so fewer republicans who probably

10:56

would have supported him and run some run

10:58

more discrepancy the big winner coming

11:01

out of is tara is rhonda santas hiding

11:03

rhonda santa comes out of this hearing eyes

11:05

you look at as much as we'd like to believe this we'd like

11:07

big call to the ballot box

11:09

for democrats while

11:13

i hope you're right my sister right

11:16

, the odds on favorite to be president

11:18

my view is rhonda santas santas

11:21

see comes out of this ah with

11:24

i would say another five to ten percent support

11:26

our you do remember how how

11:28

popular scott walker was member him know you

11:31

don't does he didn't memory was mr

11:33

wisconsin and filling out

11:35

giuliani fred thompson just or with somebody

11:37

that there's lots i say it's say long road

11:39

i think will be his death that's death great point

11:42

and yes we the person is identified as the is

11:44

a leader this point was you know it might

11:47

not the first biden was way back of attack

11:49

and sound right and and did get a prayer i

11:51

eat not i did actually which is into

11:53

six say look we were just want to take want pause

11:55

here summer i like the yet again you

11:57

are right and you was wrong

11:59

no it's the let me to sell you i think donald

12:02

trump decides to this point and i actually have

12:04

not said don't

12:04

the south i've never i did

12:06

this point he has i think the unless something

12:08

st james's supply people are second he

12:10

the now

12:10

the oh man isn't true

12:12

and if their actions that

12:14

really pretty much the what it is scattered

12:16

confirmed is launching a new subscription platform snapped

12:19

out plus willing to the clutch and exclusive experimental

12:21

the features it will be no

12:24

, ninety nine will be added revenue stream

12:26

for saps that was also depend on advertising

12:28

i mean we'll see we'll see when it comes out i

12:30

guess the twitter one didn't

12:33

hasn't worked out rather well but again it's

12:35

the direction allen either some

12:36

important what do you think of this yeah i didn't i didn't think

12:38

i was the big news i like it when

12:40

it comes to subscription it's absolutely a more

12:42

enduring business small so asphalt the motor

12:45

and my colleague it in my you and who i think it's probably

12:47

the best teacher in the world right now you know the

12:49

the question was asked in this podcast

12:51

was how do you make a ,

12:54

enduring or inflation proof proof

12:56

you said it you have to make it sorta something

12:59

that's not discretionary you have to go from being a discretionary

13:01

product and non-discretionary and

13:04

he had this really instant point about apple and

13:06

he said and i'm incentives for a long time i'm

13:08

is that if apple

13:11

apple is actually quite vulnerable because apples

13:13

really the iphone in the seven dwarves and in a recession

13:15

are you would you be more likely upgrade

13:19

or excuse me less likely the

13:22

to upgrade to a new i phone

13:24

thirteen war council

13:26

your apple subscription the gave your

13:28

your products and his

13:30

whole point is point this in this is what is so

13:32

powerful that subscription is

13:34

it it's a much more enduring business model and

13:36

that is get some adobe still had

13:38

adobe illustrator and we're headed into

13:41

an ever a recession and a cop thirteen

13:43

hundred bucks companies might say to the creative

13:45

director we're going away on all upgrades software

13:47

right now there's no upgrade policy but

13:50

nobody is gonna cancel they're

13:52

their enterprise license

13:54

it turns off all adobe software once

13:57

so their their

13:59

and if you actually to look at apple have some of it's

14:02

fine arrested has room it

14:04

has a real issues your anyways the

14:06

move or we've i think we've talked about this before

14:08

the the strategy has the right one but

14:11

here's the hard part the memo is out

14:13

around the power subscription and the shareholder

14:15

value that creates which has created

14:17

such a massive investment you

14:19

can even arguing over investment is typified

14:22

, netflix now has a content budget

14:24

that is that the you know defense budget of many

14:26

nations what you have is

14:28

an expectation from consumers that if i'm

14:31

entering into a monogamous relationship

14:33

with you you'd better you you'd

14:35

fucking hot and when i mean by that much

14:37

better be offering me a billion dollars

14:40

a month for a dollar

14:43

of subscription fee and so the

14:45

barrier the diddy diddy hurdle

14:47

to get someone to sign up for a recurring

14:50

revenue relationship is so

14:52

enormous and snap doesn't even get

14:54

to the hurdle much less clear it with this ebook

14:56

the how good it sets the to see how good it

14:58

as what's out there but any any case is a move

15:00

in the right direction i facts and will say

15:02

they're very creative and isis

15:04

to be much more creative than than twitter

15:06

was i think given see those also coming

15:08

to code is very creative so maybe he'll roll

15:10

out some things and show us that has to be good

15:12

you're absolutely right as good or first a

15:14

story

15:19

corporations are trying to adapt to a post

15:21

real world with mixed success major pharmacies

15:23

including walmart cbs rite aid or

15:25

capping purchases of emergency contraception

15:27

due to increased demand a

15:30

that's i think the morning after pill amazon is limiting

15:32

the sale of plant this plant

15:33

the although cnbc found a way around it by

15:35

after in a different brand of that drugs while

15:38

been temporarily so that a plan b for

15:40

delivery orders this is sort of like the vaccine

15:42

where the the that the the cove a test

15:44

or formula problems meanwhile

15:47

facebook and instagram or removing post

15:49

that offer abortions else to people who may not

15:51

be able to access them which was bizarre

15:53

but even with guns in there and it's just fine

15:55

in a pure porter as i said tested the band

15:57

by posting an offer to

15:59

that forward and

15:59

then killed by the mail the post was removed within a minute

16:02

similar posts offering forward weed

16:04

and done were left up to bleed seats for

16:06

complying with allies as an overzealous

16:08

see why a twitter and

16:10

reddit don't appear to me moving those posts thirteen

16:12

states of trigger laws to take effect after

16:14

the role reversal some have already checked it abortion

16:17

pills may be illegal in wisconsin for example

16:19

most abortions the us are now medication

16:21

horses according to the guttmacher institute

16:23

such start with that like what what are these

16:26

companies start do harm me

16:28

this is so much there are i think medical abortions

16:31

i was actually happy to hear or

16:33

see so much press around the supply

16:35

chain shortage of plan b and

16:37

, for plan c in the majority of women

16:39

terminate a pregnancy very early early

16:42

i think the more awareness that's fraud

16:44

that's the center sick technology

16:47

companies like a jane and but i'll call some

16:49

texts and in one of them one

16:51

of them must discouraging symbols that a lack

16:54

of progress an adventure community is to

16:56

this the waffle under funding of women's house

16:59

and so i think it's hands

17:01

so i if it's at temper supplied

17:03

saying

17:04

around medical abortions

17:07

is a wonderful thing because granted a

17:09

row the i got warren

17:11

society won right that

17:13

account of more either as you know is

17:15

a really a war on women i would argue know is it

17:17

i think it's a war on our knowledge

17:19

is poor women i think it's a with a war on

17:22

poor women of color in

17:25

certain regions

17:26

i mean it really is when you really think about

17:28

who it's impacting it's probably

17:31

arguably in terms of it's impact on the ground

17:34

one of the most bigoted things we've we've done

17:36

in the last century you really look

17:38

issue it's an impact it's

17:40

, is okay who is is really gonna impact

17:43

it's all the same it's the it's it's

17:45

similar person of the same age of the same

17:47

economic groups of the same the

17:50

racial background and in it that

17:52

the whole point of the fucking court is to not

17:54

let that happen anywhere that's

17:57

your i liked the fact that this fantastic

17:59

that when he is getting a

18:01

lot of attention because unfortunately i think a lot

18:03

of women or just a lot

18:06

of people in the us aren't his target center

18:08

is aware of their options as we would

18:10

hope that they are what

18:12

, really frightening and i think what the democrats

18:14

to be working on instead of marching around washington

18:17

square with colored science thinking that amy cloning

18:19

buried is gonna change your mind is

18:21

figuring out a way to ensure

18:24

that these are medical abortions

18:26

can be legally safely

18:28

effectively crisply are

18:30

, to all four corners

18:33

of the country without hindrance saturday

18:36

they are they are doing that they that they can take

18:38

in march if they want it's also

18:39

a symbolic thing it's clearly symbolic

18:41

thing about writing the right to the a march

18:44

but anyone who thinks about

18:46

a monastery of monastery we st we have a super majority

18:48

conservative court that is correct

18:50

and in they're not going to change their minds in appointed

18:53

saints

18:54

hell we have more moderates

18:56

in the senate and had we had just a few

18:59

actual moderate republicans including

19:01

many who have retired in the last ten years

19:04

they would have said we just can't vote

19:06

for this individual look at her tracks

19:08

that like again with go to a business the

19:10

interviews i think our after hiring

19:13

and firing no twelve or fourteen

19:15

hundred people the last thirty years i've

19:17

come to believe it interviews are almost worthless

19:20

there is senate hearings are almost worthless

19:23

and what what the only the best

19:25

thing you can do when you're hiring somebody is

19:27

do everything you can using

19:29

linked in and using second or third connections

19:32

to get an arm's distance reference

19:35

honest view the record

19:37

of this person and i have hired people

19:39

that have had terrible interview when

19:41

i'm on a said they're great it's an automatic

19:44

fire is some access cause me and said this

19:46

person's great they could have thrown up on

19:48

me that are hired then

19:50

i'd had out if you buy thought this person to seems

19:52

great the man like

19:54

how can one ago yeah they don't deliver or they

19:57

they're hard to get along with and i

19:59

want higher and here's the thing

20:01

is hearings a ridiculous

20:03

but you know this is the way it is though scott

20:06

one of the things of course they should have done this as

20:08

isn't columns isn't ounces intolerance or whatever

20:10

ah don't eat out this is of this

20:13

is what we have as the system i think

20:15

what's it what's important in this case

20:17

with these with with the technology that really

20:19

a technology is that these companies have

20:22

to take a say they can't be sitting in

20:24

the middle now is legally problematic because

20:26

a lot of the states now of anti abortion

20:28

people are even worse they're not even

20:30

just happy to get what they die which is

20:32

everything is there now trying to go

20:34

after legally people who cross state lines

20:37

are people who go to other days so people live

20:39

in their state they're going to try to prosecutors

20:41

they move go to another state getting worse and

20:43

come home that's ,

20:46

frightening that that surveillance at it's

20:48

lead to have to get the sec companies not to

20:50

allow it to happen we talked about this on monday

20:52

with evan greer and many others amps

20:55

this kind of stuff says is very very

20:58

in the middle of technology in a better resist

21:01

governments that are trying to do this now blue

21:03

states are trying to pass on pass thing we're not going

21:06

to cooperate with these red states but still in

21:08

effect as still in is illegal civil war

21:10

in a wouldn't that that's gonna happen and people

21:12

tracking they're they're it that you're

21:14

allowed to cross state lines to do commerce

21:16

as as actually brett kavanaugh noted

21:18

in his concurrence the

21:21

light hello he lied but nonetheless

21:24

he noted that i think he was trying to signal people

21:26

have cut that that stuff out that there's

21:28

all kinds of stuff the sec companies have information

21:30

on including movement where people go to they

21:33

cannot allow these calling

21:35

state legislators to used to

21:37

prosecute their own citizens and

21:39

that's one to i

21:42

get the ability to get these abortion pills

21:44

the

21:45

good luck trying to stop that that's all

21:47

i gotta say good luck monitoring amazon

21:50

and the mail and these companies have that a step

21:52

up and not allow it to be to happen

21:54

if people wanna buy those pills they should buy those

21:56

pills they can walk across

21:58

the line and take it whenever they want to do they

22:01

should be able to do but it cannot

22:03

of they and abortions and others say

22:06

they believe what this ruling says so

22:08

i you know i said it's interesting

22:11

yeah how as a book is taking

22:13

down this stuff because these are the free

22:16

speech max solas right so will

22:18

free speech absolute like he launched about the saver

22:20

of keeping those posts up and by the way whereas

22:22

the line anyway he's been strangely quiet since

22:24

the ruling him he probably said that's probably a good

22:26

idea so i think that's

22:29

the question is these people go on about free speech

22:31

i put up the posted said it seems they can

22:34

moderate

22:34

i think your focus on our on center why

22:37

because we keep when

22:40

, doesn't step into the void we

22:42

are crates avoid after a lack of leadership we

22:44

keep hoping for this hollow

22:46

strategy waiting for taxi

22:48

as better angels the com

22:50

i don't say it's the only thing i just think

22:52

i have been hold on tracking is critically

22:54

important okay what amazon or google

22:56

does or doesn't do or the courage that

22:58

their see a show and i think this is an opportunity

23:00

to show leadership around this issue it just says

23:03

i'm a lot of impact on women of color and mississippi

23:05

amazon you know google doesn't have

23:07

a lot of operations there so i get

23:09

i understand what you're saying but until

23:12

we restore until

23:14

we have a protestant

23:16

country where we on fox

23:18

the electoral system is is

23:20

he used to actually be congressional

23:23

districts actually represented

23:25

the people in the district in instead they slowly but

23:27

surely been gerrymander we , an electoral

23:30

process that gets extremists

23:32

mean officer to the same thanks for me and

23:34

added the everyone's talking

23:37

about a movement to the ballot box i hope it happens

23:39

i'll get involved in and i'll give money to it out

23:41

or are you know i canvas for democratic

23:43

candidates but in so we have

23:45

more moderate and

23:48

actually figuring out whether food should sit on

23:50

the supreme court where

23:52

we're just going to have batshit crazy

23:55

decisions that we can be outraged

23:57

about but the outreach doesn't translate

23:59

anything the thing about haven't either that or max

24:01

are not true

24:02

rage translate to lots of acts averages

24:04

the beginning of accent is

24:07

it without without actually up he we wouldn't

24:10

have all the

24:11

it at all the things that gays and lesbians

24:14

mitch mcconnell has calmly torn

24:16

are outrageous fast limb from limb

24:18

well we need to be more

24:20

chinese we need to think long

24:22

term the or ago do with republicans

24:25

debt and go up and down the

24:27

middle and lower tier opposite state legislatures

24:29

is them whenever they are eager out a way to

24:32

create an electoral process where we get

24:34

more moderates who can come together smithy

24:36

read this decision

24:38

it's is striking when

24:40

you read the decision this decision basically

24:42

reads

24:44

one a neutered did see justice used

24:46

to be an actual role there was a

24:48

seed could the chief was supposed to bring

24:50

some sense of moderation and get everyone

24:52

saying you know that's a little extreme

24:54

on the left or the right don't we want to think about

24:56

this he has now been neutered the

24:58

super majority you read this

25:00

opinions it's basically like fuck you bet

25:02

some on top it it it's it doesn't

25:05

even acknowledge

25:06

the right to the one

25:08

it didn't even sit and read as available

25:11

it added if this the the the

25:13

unborn is being carried

25:15

by by a robot it

25:17

hasn't even it doesn't even acknowledge

25:19

her rights so until we have

25:22

a body it gets to decide

25:24

this person is probably not the person who

25:26

should be on the supreme court i moderates

25:29

this is going to happen over and over and and when mitch mcconnell

25:31

has done that the democrats are unable to do or

25:33

thanks it's he's played the long game

25:35

and he's been very strategic and

25:37

they have made huge investments in these little

25:39

elections of people don't think about well

25:42

that's how a minority takes over

25:44

it of opinion of opinion i

25:46

would agree with was interesting one of the engine things

25:48

as a test or mark cubin cost plus drugs and

25:50

get back to check in that like a his me

25:52

the pharmacy carried fourteen times the birth control

25:54

an emergency contraceptives for school

25:56

the needed i doesn't i can share

25:58

the south jersey cost the city

25:59

that markup it's some it's love it i do think

26:02

these kind of companies will play an

26:04

important role in the interim in terms

26:06

of getting p

26:07

they needed medical care

26:09

they why have you gotten any of them or

26:11

do they sit as a priority are they they

26:14

have sad and wanna do participate either

26:16

just like said we'd want to wade into these wow that is

26:18

correct

26:19

that is the lack of matters what i would say

26:21

i haven't talked all of them but i think it's very

26:25

i think they're tired of being of being middle of this but

26:27

they course put them

26:28

bear by talking about free speech as

26:30

pluto

26:30

they believe in that they let these posts they

26:32

are bright and he days there were

26:35

most of all they're worried about legal exposure

26:38

that's always been there problem that that's always

26:40

been there thanks to matter what else they said

26:42

legal exposure and financial exposure with

26:44

always their concerts and they should just say

26:46

that i wish they would just say that amps i

26:48

think mark could be a really interesting player here

26:50

in terms of getting people

26:51

the garage but we'll see but

26:54

you

26:54

we have to get that get these people cannot

26:56

afford it they abortion say if

26:58

they want some but i think it's really important

27:00

to initiatives , tactical

27:03

game and a strategic game you're correct with

27:05

the tactile game is just as important right now

27:07

because it's gonna be a lot of pain

27:10

for a lot of women women

27:12

and down the chain for women most

27:14

especially being especially and

27:16

so that the tactical stuff is just as important

27:19

the ability to get these pills the ability

27:21

to go to other states without being

27:23

prosecuted eccentric sector and

27:25

that is that that is a ground game now

27:28

it's actually showing some interesting numbers

27:30

and like georgia suddenly stacey abrams is

27:32

competitive with brian camps warnock

27:34

is up ten points on herschel walker these

27:36

are nazis these are voting issues nazis

27:39

issues think i agree that simply inflation

27:41

and

27:41

i'm are also critically important

27:43

they think it's must say one

27:45

and one thing states for can

27:47

block searches for abortion tells last

27:49

september the wake of texas anti abortion

27:51

laws

27:53

he said they were blocked and or in error

27:55

but now apparently they're not and

27:58

and posted up tells us

27:59

the abortion and

27:59

that is blocking by the way men are also designated

28:02

a portion rights groups against revenge

28:04

as a tier one terror group subject

28:07

to the strictest censorship on facebook

28:09

and instagram i have long given up

28:11

on them to do anything consistent

28:13

, irene it's a right or wrong it's just consistent

28:16

they just changed as as well and that

28:18

for going to get from these people so it's

28:20

nothing fresh and new in my opinion

28:23

in my case against hers and sing credit

28:25

for acts of vandalism against the idea for

28:27

the groups that which

28:28

near my i think i think it's a

28:30

i see why people do but it's not

28:33

what we would do ,

28:35

supports am but it is

28:37

not alleged of target or injured people for context

28:39

the oath keepers and three percent or

28:41

two groups to participate insurrections had

28:44

lower designation as tier three last

28:46

year not known it's not known

28:48

how say supply suffice these groups that again

28:50

inconsistency and

28:51

the fusion seems to be what they do it every

28:53

one of these junctures in advance of a small

28:55

made when you told me that about about

28:58

facebook is that i've always thought that

29:00

the complexity and difficulty the

29:03

moderating content on a conquered

29:05

open platform has always been exaggerated

29:07

for the benefit of the company and

29:10

that is okay we kick we

29:12

close one in town and somewhere between

29:15

thirty and sixty percent of lox misinformation goes

29:17

away and , no way the twitter

29:19

didn't have some idea that was gonna happen and it seems

29:21

that say such has been remarkably efficient

29:24

and pulling down post the talk

29:26

of america abortion and ,

29:28

says to me that they can the technology

29:31

to moderate concept that it was accepted

29:33

and i know that they did they

29:36

just decided we're going

29:38

to use it when it's convenient when it gets in the way

29:40

of selling more nissan adds even if it

29:42

involves pay content or the or content

29:44

that might the press teens i've always thought

29:46

these problems have been totally exaggerated

29:48

like i grow up their arms like what can we

29:51

do way to squirrelly

29:53

is company on earth i've always thought they were they

29:55

most compromise

29:55

company them for example and says they will pay for a

29:58

bully abortion travel quoted extent

30:00

permitted by law

30:02

what does that mean it also bands employees from

30:04

discussing it more since you know what the squirrels

30:06

are out and say spoke as always let's

30:09

move on to something else by the

30:10

they are com it may want to make it easier for politicians

30:12

as agree to see the press early and

30:14

years

30:14

the committee or a basis for defamation

30:16

have to prove malicious intent after battles us

30:19

ask sarah palin the supreme

30:20

declined to take up the case that kind of removing

30:23

a burden and of ridiculous are not britain's

30:25

making

30:25

london i just found this disagreed

30:27

with that said since and the current rachel as

30:30

media does or says the club cast false aspersions

30:32

on public figures with near impunity justice

30:35

thomas you need to suck and get over it is think

30:37

time politics ring for justice you don't

30:39

have to continue to gives everybody hell

30:41

for years

30:43

city hearing that you felt was shitty others

30:45

did not anyway i is heated

30:47

strides raising getting rid of gay marriage

30:50

he raises getting rid of all kinds of things he's

30:52

using that bully pulpit

30:55

from for doing

30:56

that i'm so anyway

30:59

the thomas' or quite a pair

31:03

one of the things that that i

31:05

do think as important as talk about so is

31:07

the us government being and will force for change

31:10

here you have biden sort of hands

31:12

in many ways what to do other think he's up

31:14

pushing hard enough from i hate to

31:16

say this of from a marketing to interview with

31:18

inflation and everything else seats

31:21

concerns about his age mother is running

31:23

that of course as a typical washington dinner party

31:25

saying what do you what

31:27

is them would is a move

31:28

here for the by demonstration and

31:31

their data

31:32

that they'd a

31:34

requesting that requires more thoughtful answer

31:37

what would i would i would comment on the

31:39

observation i would make is that

31:41

you have your annual conference code

31:44

minnesota the premier gathering attack

31:46

when i would say that every

31:48

almost every on cabinet

31:50

member every democratic senator

31:53

and several republican governors well

31:55

com as you invite them because

31:57

i think ah it's become

31:59

oh most common knowledge now

32:02

that people believe mine is not

32:04

gonna be president and twenty

32:06

twenty four no no not according to biden

32:08

the go ahead i think vice president harris

32:10

has already campaign i think she's already

32:12

positioning herself for runs i think there are several

32:15

democratic senators who who will say

32:17

publicly and one of a mom he'd found out

32:19

i will likely support sen amy

32:21

klobuchar i think she's a wonderful leader and

32:24

brings confidence and ethics and ethics

32:26

like people do the work anyway the

32:28

i think she's already running and they say publicly

32:31

i'm supporting biden and he's running and then

32:33

they said ow ow there's something in iowa

32:35

i'll go i mean it is and

32:37

what you're also going to see him

32:39

when when think about gonna knock on a second order

32:41

fact i think you're going to see

32:44

a hundred people who we weren't

32:46

expecting and who they they themselves

32:48

were planning on running and mark cuban

32:50

just like the gonna run i think michelle obama

32:52

might run i think people are just so upset

32:55

by this

32:56

then i think they might decide maybe it is

32:59

this is a moment for me as

33:01

a less risk howard stern says he's

33:03

gonna run

33:04

the his running mate okay job i think

33:06

jon stewart might run i mean there's

33:09

i think there's a lot of people out there

33:11

that people respect that have awareness and have voices

33:13

know like if trump if this if

33:16

this be level reality level reality

33:18

actor could end up inciting

33:20

a mob to take over the capital maybe

33:22

i do have a calling and a responsibility maybe

33:24

this is my moment in time right to

33:26

try and

33:27

if you wanna pick any other celebrities i get

33:29

it is not it's not completely out of line

33:31

to think that partly which one

33:33

would work from your perspective

33:36

oprah howard stern mark cubin

33:38

and i'm couldn't putting him in the celebrity category as

33:40

a rule years and question the reason why

33:43

i think i sort of go towards a little

33:46

bit for its mark cubin because i think

33:48

i think it's really convenient to be a billionaire when

33:50

you run for president our society cause you

33:53

cause it frees up about forty percent your

33:55

time to focus on campaigning as

33:57

opposed to fund raising adding michelle adding

34:00

the animus obama be amazing but i don't

34:02

think the presidency should be passed be back

34:04

and forth between family members that's always bothered

34:06

me whether it's the bushes or hell

34:08

rambo them and

34:11

let me put it back to you because i don't feel like feel like

34:13

a thoughtful as you that i would like to see a senator

34:16

club senators klobuchar and bennett

34:18

runs but unfortunately neither my very good at

34:20

twitter so he was what are your thoughts

34:22

human

34:23

human human human fucker would the into

34:25

the in cuba now adam abrams

34:27

in l a cuban

34:30

saudi fun for us to spot

34:31

iran air force one for the first seminar

34:33

law is in a the heat a smart

34:36

you got it is i think is a high character

34:38

person as and you know he has

34:40

the capital i think he understands

34:42

social the innocence technology china

34:45

has is the thing is

34:47

thing the cost classes at the center of a huge

34:49

issue that was seen was or relate to yeah

34:52

so he's a very viable candidate but the the

34:54

wonderful thing i think acts account acts wonderful

34:56

thing about the presidential race is whoever

34:58

we settle on it's almost like almost hacks

35:00

right in my never works either way

35:02

here we agree here we agree in any

35:04

case we'll see if he does that i imagine

35:07

trying for him headache for him anyway we'll

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36:33

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one as ceo bob chapek a

36:35

this week's disney board voted to extend his contract

36:38

for three years he recently came under fire

36:40

for the company's response florida don't think gay bill

36:42

and under his reign disney

36:44

the respond in the lawsuit from scarlett

36:46

hanson he didn't handle that very well but not

36:48

every chief executives having a great week interest

36:50

announced the events of them is stepping down

36:52

google commerce executive built a reedy

36:55

a will take his place a what

36:57

what do we think it's i i knew they were we sat

36:59

that we sat there are going to keep traffic and he was never going

37:01

to give him a they don't his contract runs out and twenty twenty

37:03

five which allows if there's any real problems

37:06

they can pay them out i'm so we'll

37:08

see they they they they let people have

37:10

a long leash disney i'm a

37:12

there was a was a i

37:15

think he yeah he's getting his footing

37:17

he's following a very successful ceo

37:20

and i'm actually hoping to have him at code

37:22

i'm also hoping that mark cubin ago

37:25

so we'll see where he goes from here he's

37:27

got a lot of challenges that he has to deal with

37:29

now political necessarily all all

37:31

the guess i think i'm

37:33

a dad lightyear didn't do well but sorrell expansion

37:36

sick i'm at a real high quality

37:38

or content makers very

37:41

difficult time a first to start

37:43

with keep it going to talk about silbermann or disney

37:46

a borderline disney doesn't scare easily

37:48

and a political er pr

37:50

snafu whatever you want to call it an error and communications

37:52

in florida

37:53

that's not why you fired a ceo disney and

37:56

he's a proven executive he ran i

37:58

think they're most profitable the parks division

38:00

is that where it came from our name on

38:03

the board sad exposure to him i'm

38:06

they're just don't scare that either they're not going to fire bob

38:08

shape after a , going to

38:10

be there minimum six years

38:12

probably nine or twelve and

38:14

if you look at the thousands of decisions disney

38:16

has had to make or the ceo sodomy i

38:18

mean mean you will

38:21

you will get a sense for when you're on board this

38:23

is how i've of of when i first one on board

38:25

i thought i was there to like heckle

38:27

from the cheap seats and demand more from the board

38:29

and asked them hard questions and then will

38:32

you realize it's your job is really there

38:34

to support them until the moment you kind

38:36

of i'll meet in the parking lot of go we need

38:38

to let go of bob or bob until

38:41

that point you're there for them because the reason support

38:43

them is because it is such

38:45

a difficult job you

38:47

, literally your inbox is never

38:50

empty when you're the sea of a public company and

38:52

you have to sacrifice relationships

38:54

with your family with your health

38:57

it's just a a a there is no balance

38:59

in that job it is very difficult stressful

39:02

job now or the overpaid yes but it is

39:04

a difficult job and the thousands

39:06

of decisions disney has had to make and the bob

39:08

has had to make i would argue his bat

39:10

his batting averages pretty strong here if you look at

39:12

disney plus probably one of the

39:14

most of the ascendant stories

39:16

and tag in the last thirty six

39:18

months is disney pos started

39:20

by bob iger right okay but a

39:22

at the end of the day bob didn't

39:25

fuck it up or bogdanovic bob to

39:27

the carrying the momentum and the

39:30

parts have been open through a very difficult

39:32

time

39:32

he got a difficult job i didn't

39:34

get and it's was not a surprise again is a

39:37

disease not it's not a not a taxi

39:39

company with a has to move by public

39:41

opinion and i think the board probably do the right thing

39:43

and they look idiotic if they got rid of them to

39:45

look at a a that me eight everyone would look including

39:47

bob iger by the way to the victim rights

39:49

so even if they don't like each other which currently they

39:51

don't or maybe they will someday again

39:55

or , get along you know you'll see

39:57

it out the figure out that he needs to be little business

39:59

i am an excellent interview

40:02

with care swisher would work well for my thanks in

40:04

, case and they will say

40:07

i think you see what we thought this was gonna happen

40:09

is exactly what happened happened

40:11

silberman something down again is not

40:13

a surprise i think he's miss a lot of turns in

40:15

lot of ways i think it's because he is enthusiasm

40:18

for running it was it even

40:20

seal it from him up not the

40:22

they missed a lot of turns and now

40:24

the stock is down they

40:27

didn't is think they evolved a nasty had

40:29

a lot as a

40:30

talk about a management turn

40:32

over there and end of the self inflicted

40:35

problems around women one

40:38

of their high ranking

40:38

women executives sue them are

40:41

also or two people college student

40:43

just a lot of stuff going on there and

40:46

, really moved into the ecommerce

40:48

face like they're moving now now

40:51

was always perplexed by that but anyhow

40:53

my dinner with them he was enthusiastic about

40:55

everything but interests that was my experience

40:58

and his lovely guy by the way but

41:01

he wanted out

41:04

i even

41:04

the year and i remember when dinner and

41:06

i was like

41:08

felt like he wanted out then and

41:10

to salute the burden for heavy on him

41:12

as a ceo said what think

41:14

why is it represents a

41:16

few things the first as he got acknowledges

41:18

is stepping down he built in and he bought the great

41:20

have any and hundred for sissies

41:22

obvious incredibly creative guide so

41:24

hats off to him for building something exceptional

41:26

the on ninety nine point nine nine percent of

41:30

entrepreneurs pray for ben silverman

41:32

success ambition ah having

41:34

said that nicer to see years ago i was doing earnings

41:36

call is not a see out he

41:38

doesn't he doesn't inspire accepted

41:42

, tap at all they got that because of the space

41:45

i never thought he'd have demonstrated a qualities

41:47

ah i would say the ceo seo need someone demonstrate

41:50

axons have the

41:52

ability to attract and retain the best people

41:54

and also been amazing storyteller says

41:57

that they can attacked they at

41:59

attacked

41:59

pull over and over and over right

42:02

and i've always thought she'd to struck me as

42:04

an incredibly creative guy

42:06

who was sort of his accidental see our

42:08

and i would agree and but

42:10

it also represents our macro level the

42:13

the i think what we saw with

42:15

adam newman the when

42:17

i was on attendees in the nineties it was

42:19

a conventional wisdom they wanted

42:21

to become the company became real once

42:23

you got to the point where the companies like okay and

42:26

michael public and my get sold for hundreds of millions

42:28

of dollars as

42:29

okay now we gotta bring in

42:31

the big the fifty five year

42:33

old guy from pepsi your idea i

42:35

mean it was it because founders were a necessary

42:38

evil we were crazy okay

42:40

fine we we birth companies

42:43

but we should not be there to run companies

42:45

were crazy were entrepreneurs and then yeah

42:47

steve jobs and bill gates and slowly but surely

42:49

the pendulum swung so far back to

42:51

the founder that they

42:54

didn't in my opinion investors have

42:56

tolerated founders who were visionary and brilliant

42:58

it shouldn't be ceos yes summer

43:01

then some

43:01

that it's a mixed bag fake gates

43:03

on this is a good basis was good

43:06

you know it depends care many are left

43:08

he was smart enough to leave and let meg whitman take

43:10

over it's a difficult thing for these

43:12

people i don't know why then save her assess

43:14

the guy asked him

43:15

yeah don't i don't understand i think

43:17

i the i think this should have happened five or seven

43:20

years ago i just yeah the an

43:22

incredibly creative guy i don't know why he'd wanna

43:24

do that job but you're seeing

43:26

what what you're going to see you're going to see a lot of us

43:28

over the next twelve months characters nothing nothing

43:31

distinguishes the bright line between a founder

43:34

and ceo like a bear market and

43:36

that is out when everything's going up into

43:38

the right everyone fine

43:40

without his he or she is the founder their the dna

43:43

the company when there's inconsistency

43:45

around earnings when they don't appear to be

43:48

articulating a strategy or during

43:50

a bad earnings call have the ability to com

43:52

investors nerves make hard decisions

43:55

around cost cutting everyone talks

43:57

about the ability to grow a company it's also

43:59

really imports be able to effectively destroyed

44:01

our company

44:02

the to the oven enthusiasm schiano

44:04

at me and i just i like

44:06

him but honestly

44:08

if you spend five minutes of them is sort of like whoa

44:11

like whoa is terrible and also

44:13

by the way the stock has mostly flatlined

44:15

and declined

44:16

start up in the twenty four range and had a peak

44:19

of course during the pandemic

44:21

especially to eighty five crazy

44:23

and now it's back at eighteen dollars over for

44:25

another cfr served on a border the top

44:27

or about his early or fossil i

44:30

think crane operator i was hoping he'd been see

44:32

the i'm in a new guys really quite

44:33

the worked in a lot of days ago was that i know

44:35

i'm a little bit and very competent

44:38

i think he's probably a better choice for this

44:39

in any case then

44:42

well shows to

44:44

go do something you like a smile for you

44:47

my system some and to smile daily sell

44:49

him into smith's you could smile marks in

44:51

any case let's tell it to a list

44:52

the question you've got you've got to police

44:55

email me you've got mail

44:58

when can be email from a listener it will call

45:00

mark i'll read it i care and scots

45:02

i recently received a call from a head hunter about a

45:04

position at papa john's organizations

45:07

to job is good the pay is right the benefits

45:09

of their and it's a beast

45:10

the right direction my career title and responsibilities

45:13

wise

45:13

the only problem is that

45:15

that the politics papa john's is a polarizing

45:18

brand i want to work with more progressive

45:20

company this huge

45:21

all my resume be tainted if i were for com

45:23

it it is not aligned

45:24

medically the company's i would like to work force

45:26

interesting question thank you mark will martha

45:28

so i well i guess

45:30

you would call this question of personal pan

45:32

pizza

45:34

enhanced by adam as fuck

45:36

hammond was that you anyway just

45:39

as

45:39

your question it when heard me a

45:41

separate corporation and politics did

45:43

not attend class

45:44

and i think it's important i left

45:46

news corp and remember how

45:48

i just couldn't i know whether i wouldn't worry about my resume

45:51

i just like a network of at a soccer

45:53

like i just want to and i have the choice i

45:56

don't know i don't know it's that they make

45:58

that perfectly good taste of it taste a lot of these

45:59

i

46:02

think it's more important to live in states and work for

46:04

companies they align with you both on

46:06

either side as year

46:07

the happen to be conservative you want to work for you know

46:09

whenever the cracker barrel go for

46:11

it like or of you want to work for

46:13

the out live in a state that makes

46:15

you feel that you should do that am

46:17

i do think politics is more important

46:19

and pretending it isn't is kind of wasting

46:22

your time i think but i don't know what are you

46:24

think zero met and you can't discuss

46:26

the supreme court ruling it overturn roe

46:28

versus wade are you at that crack and were that jack

46:31

asses in charge i would lease or

46:33

know when he think yeah alert i've been i

46:35

mean if a lot of people decide to get over for

46:37

patagonia managers to the get sued cited

46:39

and come from going to work for a company that

46:41

does type of values and a lot of people

46:44

just could never get to work for hobby lobby they

46:46

would hated every are

46:48

they like it

46:49

that read and write a positive but i think

46:51

i think the vast majority like ninety parts

46:53

per cent of people who had and

46:55

will make their decisions based

46:57

on where they feel they can bass develop economic

47:00

security for them in their family and have some balance

47:02

nice i think that's the role the workplace

47:04

your life and what i've also found

47:07

under i did some work with six select they

47:09

added r s i m and everything

47:11

i you about chick fillet well in

47:14

my in my world i thought oh

47:16

chick fillet their the homophobic fast

47:18

food companies sam what i found

47:20

is when is when i worked with when with worked

47:22

with people there and i never ate there just because we're

47:25

and when i when i found out is it

47:27

a that dash it's for real bad

47:29

as that's almost in and out like good good food

47:32

and be there's a lot of very

47:34

talented progress is working there realize

47:37

the opportunity to make a good living there

47:39

and it's and we we a tendency

47:41

to make a caricature these companies and so what

47:43

i would say it's a this individual is

47:45

that is he someone who really charities

47:48

politics with them everywhere and

47:50

are some people like that there's nothing good about that

47:52

the something bad about that that's who you are

47:54

dense fine but i would say for the majority

47:56

of us work is meant to be a place

47:59

where we

47:59

the fabric economic security so we can focus

48:02

on the important things in our lives

48:04

that it's relationships because without that economic

48:06

security and enjoying your work

48:08

in america your life can be very stressful

48:10

so unless you've described herself as a political

48:13

animal brother go where the opportunity

48:15

and the benjamins are so i don't think people

48:17

will tell that against the i've never had any when whole town

48:19

i work for rupert murdoch or

48:21

something i mean he and you can always it does

48:23

ass holes yeah when you buy i i

48:25

did a great job the kind of the athos

48:27

like you couldn't you can play

48:28

for your trade benefits later and management

48:31

changes and companies dunes in it is

48:33

a i

48:34

more from but you

48:36

know i don't think you'll hurt his resume be

48:38

tainted probably not

48:40

no no no no that in

48:42

ohio percent natural thing people do that

48:44

unless you he just wants it

48:46

was having on our to adding as a one word answer

48:49

congratulations and society cup

48:51

a job he wanted see us as everything

48:53

but if you if it really bothers

48:55

you and your there and you get the listener

48:57

shit get out that's where you

48:59

get out accompanies when there is like i'm

49:02

just saying in general that's why companies

49:04

when they're you are that happens more is

49:06

in the tech community consists ios have invited

49:08

they pretended to care about their employees

49:11

political views and they kind of started

49:13

a riot and then they got surprise and people showed

49:15

up that is true no sense with

49:17

with with torches hiding most companies

49:20

people show up and do their job go home and

49:22

that's what i said the

49:23

the that the only reason company again

49:26

is because of real issues

49:27

the use or or

49:29

screaming bosses in l

49:31

toxic worse places which exist and

49:33

and that's that's i had one where i

49:35

get i worked for conservative a

49:37

john mclaughlin and the

49:39

work was interesting and i am liberal

49:42

and he was conservative of the reagan conservative

49:44

the time and eight it was an abusive

49:46

zoc and that's really why i laughed

49:48

like right and not i didn't i didn't ever thought

49:51

it would hold against the buddy was sexually harass

49:53

women he was asshole even the city

49:55

screamed and that's why i left so

49:57

anyway we'll see

49:58

can can i just added when she

50:00

then a suffix to that i've only had one

50:02

job really a other than working

50:04

at n y u and started commission i was a morgan stanley right

50:06

out of college very conservative

50:09

very abusive my

50:12

head of hair tsunami i'm not exaggerating

50:14

natural seasonal items thrown

50:16

at me a , much

50:19

a testosterone sealed macho

50:21

liked abused children syndrome embarrass

50:23

people in front of others others

50:27

there was a line out the door and i would do it again and

50:29

i'm i'm glad it's changed it said sense

50:31

but i was there to learn

50:34

i was there to get into graduate school i was there

50:36

to work my ass off make some money and

50:38

create a platform i'm not by any way condoning

50:41

it but i think

50:43

there are things that should way bigger in your

50:45

life i think i think work and

50:47

no one should tolerate when when but people

50:49

have to tolerate in the eighties but

50:52

i look back on it and all that stuff

50:54

was present there i was i was i was

50:56

back then and you

50:59

know because marks for my political

51:01

views as views left cousin

51:02

it was it was great it was this is nuts

51:05

that definitely

51:05

the marketplace and so that was i certainly

51:08

learn things but it was a factor for his i didn't matter

51:10

he met it's the same saying that plagues

51:12

say spoken the cigarette companies matters as

51:14

upton sinclair said it's

51:16

, to get a man to understand something

51:19

once his salary depends upon upon

51:21

not understanding not and

51:24

this individual was a not understand and

51:26

now because of an overdue movement and

51:28

the courts white wise enough to that than a lot

51:30

public shaming and people's livelihoods

51:33

being in in many instances correctly

51:35

threaten their council you are now

51:37

paid to understand yes

51:39

there's an object is happening

51:40

anyway it's an interesting time we'll see

51:42

what happens the don't take the job and send us a pizza

51:45

the know really good there you go

51:47

there's other better

51:48

by the way i did you got a question

51:50

of your own you like answered a said it our

51:52

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51:54

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your softbank many places it

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it's not gonna get set right or i'm and five

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than the public's and we're about to see

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a lot of private market tech investors

56:06

big names in the news

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mean so many teams a doubt fifty sixty have

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saw the positions in the companies that are

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working to be an act of secondary

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market is is a lot of a lot

56:34

of that

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lot of companies the i'm thinking run

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enjoy which is kind of an interesting company went

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bankrupt a whole bunch of upstairs a lot

56:42

of stuff that sounded interesting and school

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the clear clear answer what's

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really promising and the everyone has a reset

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and that's good

57:06

that's a good thing but i

57:08

have to say my when his

57:09

the word the through our new movie with

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that

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with that agree when you thought oh

57:14

no he did

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yeah yeah i'm so excited and

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they didn't do so or at who's our

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and you know anything where they were in tights and tapes

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57:35

though high end the two ladies and she's

57:37

funny chris hemsworth it looks so

57:39

very good and worse

57:41

crysis in it in don't have as big as problem with him as

57:43

other people do buds bomb as

57:45

chris

57:46

whatever that other christian athletes and

57:48

track practice in a two and swatted

57:50

good well let me guess who's not is not widely

57:52

progressive what it means

57:53

no no no about it actually gave a really interesting

57:55

interview from for gq that he should read

57:57

no i don't i'm from answer whatever

57:59

everyone and i

58:02

look even after i don't care i chris hemsworth on

58:04

the other hand is fantastic

58:05

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yeah rather did he was the director richard he's so

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talented really fast sec east the director

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sounds like granted gerwig gray

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yeah and in that vein see the pictures

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