In this episode, Claire Doherty talks to Nina Simon, author of The Participatory Museum and the Art of Relevance, and formerly transformational Executive Director of the Santa Cruz Museum of Art and History (MAH) and now CEO of OF/BY/FOR ALL - a movement for more inclusive community-centred cultural organisations world-wide. They discuss how OF/BY/FOR ALL responded as the pandemic hit and Black Lives Matter intensified alongside the challenges of unlearning and remaking museums and cultural organisations.

Recorded remotely during Covid lockdown in summer 2020.

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Read Nina's most recent piece on Leadership - Calling All Phoenixes

Edited by Marcin Pawlik

Produced by Claire Doherty and David Micklem

Postcards to the Future is a People Make It Work project for Culture Reset. Funded by the Gulbenkian Foundation. To download a transcription of this podcast, go to culturereset.org.