This episode features Marie Beemans, an outside activist and organizer who has been supporting prisoners since she was a teenager. Marie was particularly active with a group called the Office des Droits des Detenues (or ODD), which was affiliated with the Ligue des Droits in Quebec until they were kicked out of the Ligue des Droits for supporting prisoners in the aftermath of the 1982 riot in Archambault Penitentiary. In the interview, Marie talks about what drew her to prisoner support and prison abolition organizing, what that organizing looked like, and the underlying values that drive her organizing.

At the end of the episode, we mention the piece 'Under New Management: Stories About Resistance to Prisons in Ontario and Quebec', which is available online at https://north-shore.info/2018/03/11/under-new-management-resistance-to-prisons-in-ontario-quebec/ and paper copes are for sale at leftwingbooks.net.