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Probably Science. Hello

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and welcome to Probably Science. I'm your

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host, one of three in fact. I'm Jesse Case.

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Two of three here, Andy Wood speaking. And

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I'm Matt Kirshin and we are coming live from

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three different states. Oh

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we are aren't we? Yeah. Yeah.

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We are. Yeah, Matt's depressed.

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Andy's very excited. You

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know, I'm hungry. So we have tonic. Yeah.

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So there we go. Yeah. Yeah.

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I'm also currently in Las Vegas

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or as a Las Vegas. Yeah.

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Or as they, as they call it Vegas, as

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the locals call it. There you go. Yeah.

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So we're, we're all a fair distance apart, but I am

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about 25

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yards apart from our guest who is,

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yeah,

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it's, it's very silly that the way this

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website works, it's significantly

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easier just to have her logging in from

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her own computer, which is three doors down

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from me in the same corridor. Cause

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I guess the very funny comic Jenny's Agreno

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is also one of the comedy seller in Vegas all week.

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Hey Jenny. Hey Jenny. How's it going? Hey.

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It is weird. You're like

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three doors down from me. Yeah.

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Have you guys gotten to know the people in between?

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No, no. Someone,

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someone on our hallway

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has been smoking marijuana

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very much. But

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it's like, it's like, is it new carpet smell

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or is it weed?

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No, this is definitely weed. Unless, unless the new carpet

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was made with weed, we're in the, the

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real has been doing some refurbishments here at the Rio.

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It's just hemp based carpet that

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they've slightly misunderstood how you make it. Just

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rolled some skunk in it.

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Wow. I've told this

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story before on the podcast, I'm sure, but. When

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I was first over in LA, I was driving

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over the hills with a friend of the show, Emory Emery,

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driving over Mulholland and suddenly

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smelled like very strong weed smell. I

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was like, oh, that stinks of weed around here. And he went, yeah,

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that's a skunk. A skunk's just gone off. And

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I was like, oh, weird. A skunk

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smells exactly like...oh. Oh,

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sure. Oh, that's why. Why is my skunk?

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Yeah. And then about three

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years later, I had the exact same conversation with

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other friend of the show, Josie Longwood. She was visiting

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LA, except now I got to be the one, the

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smug one on the other side of the conversation. So we're...

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Oh, you naive young thing.

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So are there no skunks in Britain then? No.

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We don't have skunks in the UK. So, yeah,

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I had no idea why I called that. Yeah, it feels

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so British, though. Yeah, it does. Yeah,

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skunk, definitely. Everything with the foxes and,

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yeah. Yeah, we've got badges,

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but they're just, you know... Yeah, but

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a skunk is like a classic

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woodland creature tea party animal. I agree with

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Andy on this one. Yeah, I mean, I

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can see it. Do you have skinks?

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What now? Do you have skinks? What does that

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mean? Is that a different thing? Yeah, it's

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a lizard. Skink. Oh,

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we don't have that many... That

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pile's a lot. We're not very lizard heavy in the UK.

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I mean, we're... In the same

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way, you know... We wear skinks, Liz.

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I think the first time I thought

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like a wild lizard was

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in California.

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Growing up in like the east coast to Midwest, lizards

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weren't just around. Yeah,

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I like, I remember when we went on holiday to Spain

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or something like that from Britain, that you

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suddenly see lizards just hanging out on the wall

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outside your hotel door, and

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it was always very exciting. Yeah. Yeah,

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I mean, no, same here. Like, I grew up

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in the southeast, and there were never any... Like,

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sometimes someone... You just

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go to someone's house and they'd have a lizard. What about

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a salamander, huh? That feels like

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a very southern thing. No, absolutely.

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Yeah, if you're just rocking a newt,

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like your mom's like in the

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witchcraft, you

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know? Y'all want to go catch some salamanders

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down at the swamp?

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That's how we talk. That's how we do it.

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Yep. That's all of us. Yep. Nailed

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it. And that's science. Have

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you gotten... Has your tolerance for

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creepy-crawly gone up since your introduction

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to desert life?

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So I think a little

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bit, but I haven't really experienced

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anything crazy. I know

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that there are snakes living under

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my home that I've been told

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about, some mean

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snakes. And that's the...

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Actually, a friend out here, Jimmy,

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one of the comedians, his wife

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got bitten by a scorpion that

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just crawled in their house, which I'm like, scorpions

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just

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show up. Wait, like stung? He

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was like, they got a scorpion sting?

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Yeah, yeah. She got a bad scorpion sting. And

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I'm just, again, scorpions just in people's

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homes wild to me. And

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everything is terrifying in the desert. Everything

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is scary. Everything

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will kill you. A fellow high desert

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person that got the scorpion bite. Oh,

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no, thank you. Because I don't know how much time

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you're spending up my way these days.

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Enough that I don't want to be there. Oh,

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really? No, okay. I

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want to talk everyone else into it.

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Okay, I do enjoy it. I

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like it. I like the people. We're

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already writing the screenplay about the high desert

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people, but they're

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a weird bunch. High desert people

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are weird and I love it.

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You're a weirdo now. Did

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you know that? I'm also writing a script. It's not exactly

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that. But then also, Rosanna Arquette,

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or was it Patricia, whichever one, they

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went and made that show and already stole the name high

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desert and it's a garbage show and it's not

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even shot here. It's shot in like Palmdale.

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You guys missed the opportunity to have it at least

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look cool.

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There's so much.

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There is a lot of beauty in the high desert.

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Yeah. And again, things that will kill

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you like scorpions and rattlesnakes.

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And you can just be walking and fall into a cactus.

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Yeah, well the cactus is probably the more pressing

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of all of it because the rest of it, I've never seen

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a snake anywhere near my house. I've only seen

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two tarantulas in three and a half years. One

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of them was on Monday 30 months. I've only

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seen two tarantulas. Well,

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the snake beat you don't see that you've got to worry about. Yeah.

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It's probably been around you. You

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just didn't know that.

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That's too, too many tarantulas. I

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disagree. When they're like 30 to 50 miles

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from your house and you're on a hike, they're really

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cool to look at. I have

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no complaints with them. You weren't concerned you were followed?

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They live underground almost their entire lives. What

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if those were the babies? Time of year to meet. No, the

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mom is six feet wide. That's the baby. Sure.

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Wait, what? No, I

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just, yeah, spiders are, it's

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too much for me. I can't do it. I think

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you would quickly, first of all, there's been way fewer

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just creepy crawlies in general than I was expecting

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moving out here. Then also, my tolerance for

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everything has gone up and it's more just

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like, oh, these are interesting looking.

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I guess I've always liked snakes though. Brooks,

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our original co-host, Brooks Whelan, is

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like Indiana Jones with the snakes.

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Oh, wow. That was hilarious because they're, I

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mean, snakes are pretty cool.

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They're very interesting. I've

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had more interactions with the coyotes and

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there is a pack of wild

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pit bulls around 29 bones

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that just rule the streets. There

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was one night, I was getting ready to leave

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and I went outside and

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I opened the door and there was just like three

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just like staring at me barking and I

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was like, oh my god and grabbed my tiny

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pug and ran inside as they were

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like running

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towards the door. I was like,

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okay. That sucks. Because

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also when the pit bulls are good, like I found

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a pit bull in the street who was abandoned. who

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I've fostered for a little bit until my friends adopted

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him and she was like the nicest Like

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they can be so good if that was a very good dog I

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forgot if you met her I just saw I can't remember

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whether we no I think I just saw a lot of videos

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and pictures that you yeah populated

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your social media with for the short period of time you You

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two are hanging out trying to find your home I

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was not saying that as a criticism. I think I thought

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it was great content. I was appreciating it a lot It

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was a very nice dog. Well, I was pretty

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we were pretty sure that you were going to keep the dog, but i'm glad

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Very close. I'm glad she kind of stayed in family.

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She's sort of I can see her when

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I want and there was a great pitbull last

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night. Jenny have you been to maso manos?

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I

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just was actually just was there uh on

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monday enjoying some coffee

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We gotta join up for wednesday night trivia

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music trivia with a hundred dollar cash prize

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like no place in la La it's like 40 bucks

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gift certificate. You got to wait till next week to use

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right here. There's only got a hundred bucks Also,

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actual cash not not they were credits

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certificates then they were just like fuck it We'll just do cash and 50

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per second place. So it's great So

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there are some friends last night and there was a pitbull wearing

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a sweater and a scarf and booties on

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all four feet And I just kept looking at it

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and laughing Because it's cold

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out there people don't realize it's

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freaking cold right now Well, that's that's

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being realized right now We're you know vegas

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is also deserts and that's the formula

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one race is starting this weekend and oh

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shit turns out the

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No one involved in the I there's

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mixed information but I they haven't

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No one who's involved in formula one has yet

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denied the story That

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they weren't aware of how cold vegas gets

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at night in november because

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um bad for the race because the track can

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like They can't grip

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the tires can't get tires Is the tires

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have to get the tires have to be warm for

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Them to function well for them to grip well and

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which is also why you know If there's a crash and they pull out the safety

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car, you'll see them kind of Doing

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quick zigzag zigzag driving because the

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more they turn the the warmer the tires

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get. So they reckon the roads could be

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as cold as like three degrees Celsius, maybe

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four degrees Celsius, which is too

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cold for the rubber normally. And also

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this track has a really

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long straight that goes all the way

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down Vegas Boulevard. And

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across that straight, which is like almost two kilometers

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long, the tire will be cooling down

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because they're not turning or braking. So

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the tire will completely lose its temperature

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that is gained from the rest of the track by halfway, apparently

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by halfway down the straight. So it's

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going to be interesting. It's going to be interesting to see how they

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handle that. What a weekend.

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Makes it more dangerous. Yeah,

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makes it more dangerous and makes it harder for them to just turn

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and maneuver. They might have to go slower. They might have to brake more

10:48

going into the turn off to the straight than they would have done.

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Yeah. I mean, I feel like this is

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recent. I know Formula One isn't recent, but

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like so like I'm you

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know, I'm in Nashville and it's

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like there's there were never Formula

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One races and now they're like the whole town turns

11:05

into a racetrack like once a month. Yeah.

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Well, Formula One is they wouldn't I

11:12

don't think that's in Nashville yet. But yeah, there's there

11:14

was a Netflix series that's now onto its season

11:17

that's kind of really made it more popular in America. No,

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it absolutely is here. It's like they're doing the thing

11:22

they're doing in Vegas where like they they

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close down roads and set up bleachers and it becomes,

11:27

you know, like a bunch of like dudes

11:29

who like to drive their cars through the

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yeah, it's like that. Okay. But

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it was it was Formula One is like specifically

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the top division of oh,

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then whatever it called, you

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know, those cars that look different than cars we

11:44

can drive. I don't know. Yeah, exactly.

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Like the cars that have the wheels on the outside and an open cockpit. Yep. They

11:49

have weird little outside wheels and they go a bit

11:51

like a mini fighter jet with wheels

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and that's what it is. And you got to wear a helmet

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at nope. Like I just stay

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away from view. where you need a helmet, you know?

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Like, I'm right. I have to get out of the gate. It's a bad sign.

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So no limescooter for you?

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No, no, I don't do... No. We're

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two... He won't get on the segway.

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No bikes, no segways.

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You're really limiting your transportation. No,

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yeah, I'm not doing it. I'm

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not doing a helmet base. I'm

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not into it. By the way, there was just a

12:24

dumb button on the pitbull thing with the booties,

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because we're playing trivia. We're sitting at a

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low table, and then the bar is right behind us, and

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it's a high bar stool bar. So

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our faces are at, like, waist

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level to those sitting at the bar. And

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I keep turning around and looking at this adorable dog,

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and then at one point I turn around. And we had met the owners

12:47

who were sitting there, but at one point I turn around and

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just say, I just can't get

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over those booties. And then I see the two

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women sitting next to them who are wearing very tight

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pants. And face

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the elite sons, and their butts are at high

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level. They just slowly turn towards me. I'm

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just like, I can't get over those booties as I'm

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staring at their abs. You

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creep. There's a

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flock of birds. Like,

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have you seen those boobies? Yeah,

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the boobies as well. Can you get over those

13:17

booties? Just the Austin Powers scene,

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yeah, nice. No, sorry, it's naked gun. Is it naked gun

13:21

that has that... All

13:25

the double entendres, like, nice beaver.

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Oh, thanks, I just had stuffed. Yeah.

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Yeah. Jenny.

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Yeah, sorry, go ahead. No, no,

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we like to ask our guests before we get too distracted. By the

13:38

way, we'll link in the show notes. There is a story

13:40

about a skunk that showed up in Muswell Hill, very

13:43

near to where I used to live in London. But

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as I thought, they'll

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say, yeah, it's escaped from a house

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where it was being illegally kept as a pet. But...

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Oh, poor guy. I know. And they

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advise people to stop keeping them as pets. But Jenny, we like

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to ask... What

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if anything is your background in science and that's range

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from classes you like to hate it as a kid to

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blowing stuff up in the woods with your friends to... Oh

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man.

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I would say

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mostly zero. I mean yeah just

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like classes. I did,

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I was an AP

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biology and I did, what

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is it called? What do you do

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when you take apart an animal?

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I kept being

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like I don't think it's dismembered. I

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mean that

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is also a word for it but that's more of the sort of serial

14:38

process.

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That's what it's fun you know. So

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we just...

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That's when you do it as a lesson

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to the others. All

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the other sharks you better fucking

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behave or else you're gonna end up like this guy.

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Yeah so we did

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that to sharks and let me think.

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I mean I'm interested in science and

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like mostly

15:04

to be smug and right. I think that's always

15:06

been like a really good thing for science

15:08

lately. And

15:12

I enjoy science you

15:15

know. I mean the problem

15:17

is that everyone now is ignoring

15:19

science which is a real bummer because

15:21

science is good and I like I also enjoy

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one of my things I like to do is like disprove

15:28

or look up like old medical

15:33

histories in science like

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you know how people

15:38

used to never wash their hands

15:40

because surgeons thought it was ungentlemanly

15:43

like to wash

15:45

their hands. And this one

15:47

doctor was like we should probably wash our hands

15:49

and they like tried to disbar him from being

15:52

a doctor. I like all that

15:54

shit.

15:56

Yeah Edelweiss he's

15:58

in an insane asylum. He like, he

16:01

eventually wound up in an insane asylum.

16:02

Yeah, you would also go crazy if you

16:05

kept telling people to wash their hands and

16:08

they were just like, nope.

16:08

Just be like, never have I been so offended

16:10

in my life.

16:11

That I also like,

16:15

you know, the, I like medical

16:18

science. I think that's like kind of my favorite

16:20

if I'm gonna like talking about women's reproductive

16:24

health or women's science and also like disproving

16:26

that like stuff like, it's

16:29

not disproving, this is a real thing, is that we

16:31

spend more money on dick pills than we do on

16:33

women's health. Right. You

16:36

know, as a society and um...

16:37

Well we don't. Like

16:40

we... You guys specifically don't. We don't. We

16:42

don't. You don't spend

16:45

any money on women's health, just dick

16:47

pills. But counterpoint,

16:49

aren't those dick pills for the benefit of the woman?

16:52

Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean...

16:55

Have you thought about that Jenny? Maybe. Maybe.

16:58

We should ask the woman, but no one ever asks

17:00

the woman. I just assume.

17:02

If she's enjoying the dick

17:04

pills?

17:04

Yeah.

17:06

Yeah. So I like

17:08

that kind of science. Also too, I love like

17:10

looking up old stuff. So

17:13

I was doing research

17:15

for a joke and I found that um, you

17:18

know, like a 14th century remedy

17:20

for like a wound would be to like put hot

17:22

cheese in it. That

17:25

makes me laugh. Or like if you had mercury,

17:28

if you like to get rid of syphilis, they

17:30

would coat the inside of a blanket

17:33

with mercury and cover you in it

17:35

and then like sit you near a fire. Like,

17:38

I love that shit. I love it

17:40

so

17:40

much. You know, you do the hot cheese

17:42

thing in Philadelphia. Oh yeah. Yeah.

17:45

Yeah.

17:45

If you get a wound. Yeah. From,

17:48

you know, if you got hurt, you know, toppling a car

17:50

over on itself. Let's put some

17:52

more cheese on it. Hey, right.

17:55

Because the eagle is either won or lost. Yeah.

17:58

Yep. Yeah, that

18:01

Liberty Bell they have up there, you can see the crack,

18:03

there's still cheese residue.

18:04

Yeah, they tried to mend it. You

18:07

know what the Japanese put gold during

18:09

cracks? They're like to men

18:11

from pottery.

18:13

It's just they put cheese.

18:15

It's actually cheese with. A lot of people don't know that. Yeah.

18:18

That's a good cannon to use cheese with. Yeah.

18:21

Yeah. Old Japanese tradition cheese

18:23

with. Cheese with, yeah.

18:25

Yeah. So yeah, I love that

18:28

stuff. And I'll do research on that shit

18:30

all day and listen to podcasts about that.

18:32

Yeah, that's pretty great. Yeah.

18:35

Here's a story that one

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of our listeners said to Michael Valboyn has sent in this story.

18:40

And this is something new,

18:42

something that I guess we didn't think

18:45

before. Each of your nostrils smells

18:47

the world uniquely according to a study.

18:49

This feels quite close to the skunks that we

18:51

were discussing before and cheese for that matter.

18:54

Putting cheese in anything. But

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our two nostrils are actually working independently

18:59

in some ways and appear to have their own separate sense

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of smell. Here. This

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science alert story says the findings

19:06

built on earlier studies in animals and humans indicating

19:09

that our brains may be capable of processing each nostrils

19:11

in but individually as well as synthesize

19:13

them into a complete whole. So

19:16

the researchers say despite extensive work

19:18

on odor responses in the olfactory system, relatively

19:20

little is known about how information from the two nostrils

19:23

is integrated and differentiated in the human

19:25

olfactory system. So. That's

19:28

very interesting. Yeah. Yeah,

19:30

these people were at the University of Pennsylvania. So

19:32

I go. That might even be, is that even silly?

19:35

Is that? Mm-hmm. I don't

19:37

know. I heard

19:39

that like

19:41

you actually breathe differently

19:44

throughout each nostril. Like it switches

19:46

during the day. Like which one

19:47

lets more air through? That I did know,

19:49

yeah. You're sort of, it's more right

19:51

than left and then it's more left than right. Yeah. But

19:54

yeah, this story that we actually smell slightly

19:57

differently. So we sort of smell in stereo

19:59

and. Right. So they, uh...

20:01

It makes sense to me. Because,

20:04

like, you know, like, having

20:06

stereo hearing, you

20:10

can identify if a sound

20:12

is behind you. Like, you can identify

20:15

where a sound is happening based on

20:17

the difference between the two. Yeah.

20:20

And you can locate a sound. But, like, you can kind

20:22

of do that with smell, right? Like, you know, if someone,

20:25

if you're in the room and someone farted, you

20:28

know it's from someone behind you, right, versus

20:31

in front of you? You sure that's not just because that's where

20:34

your ass is? That's

20:39

a good call, man. But

20:41

I mean, can't you just... I would say yes if there

20:43

were such a thing as a pretty much

20:46

standard speed of smell, which is the

20:48

only reason that we can do this sound location

20:51

is because there is a consistent

20:53

speed of sound propagation. I don't think there's a

20:56

consistent speed of smell propagation. OK,

20:58

even with one ear, let's say you have

21:01

one ear, yes,

21:03

there's speed of sound. And I get all that, like,

21:05

the micro differences they hit. But

21:07

there's also the folds in your ear, the

21:10

way it changes the frequencies, you can tell direction

21:13

with that. As opposed to just two holes

21:15

on the side of your head, you

21:17

wouldn't be able to do it as well. But you can tell if something's behind

21:19

you or in front of you because of the folds in your ear. I

21:22

imagine that there is some

21:25

locating ability. I

21:27

think having two nostrils, I

21:30

just, I mean, I don't know. Man, I'm

21:32

full of shit. No, this

21:35

is a very fun thing that we could actually do. I

21:37

think there's some location parts

21:39

of it. We could do this experiment. This

21:41

is a very doable thing, you

21:43

know? Yeah, well, yeah. I mean, not what

21:46

these people did in there about speed. No, no,

21:48

just about the directionality. We

21:50

could have just in the room, someone blindfolded. And

21:52

then you have something that's most

21:54

strongly in front or behind and see. I'm

21:57

really curious if I could tell that. Yeah.

22:00

Next time someone's cooking something smelly,

22:02

I'm going to ask them to bring it in the room in front

22:04

or behind me and see if I have

22:06

a guess.

22:07

Yeah, but wouldn't the smell have already permeated

22:10

the whole house?

22:11

Or I don't know. Next

22:13

time I'm –

22:15

how could you do this well? Introduce

22:18

the smell to a room that definitely doesn't have it yet. Maybe

22:20

it's not even about the introduction. Maybe the smell can

22:22

be permanent, but it's coming from somewhere.

22:25

Like, you're locating a smell. I

22:27

mean, it's what dogs do, right? So you locate

22:30

a smell. Or they find a track

22:32

that they can keep following, like the

22:34

thing is on the – you know, it's not just in the air, but

22:36

like on the ground

22:39

in a line. Yeah.

22:41

I don't know.

22:42

Yeah.

22:43

I can't be wrong. I have no idea. I want

22:45

to try it. I'm just trying to justify the

22:47

two nostrils thing. It annoys me. If

22:49

you're going to have two of each organ, like,

22:52

you know – There's got to be a reason. Well,

22:54

I have a question. Like, if someone puts like a pie

22:57

on the windowsill to cool, how does your body

22:59

feel? How does your body know which direction to float towards it?

23:01

Right. No, exactly. True.

23:03

Exactly. But what if it's just

23:06

dominant? What if it's just about dominance? Yeah, you've got

23:08

two. One eye sees better than the other. One ear hears

23:10

better. What if it's just dominance?

23:12

Wait, is that true?

23:14

You don't think that one eye sees a little

23:16

better than the other?

23:17

I haven't heard that. Well, that's true. I

23:20

mean, well, yeah, that's why you have like – Really? Yeah,

23:23

I mean, one eye is always a little better. I

23:26

didn't know that. Yeah, you have like a dominant eye. Yeah, that's

23:28

why like when you get glasses, it's never like the same.

23:31

Well, you also hang on to the – Well, specific prescriptions

23:33

don't mean one is more used neurologically.

23:37

Yeah, but you have a preferred

23:39

eye, though. You have like a – Yeah. I

23:41

don't know whether it sees better, but you have a dominant eye and an eye you favor.

23:43

Well, that's because you think you look ugly from the other

23:46

side. Exactly. But also, if you have done like

23:49

archery, they get

23:52

you to use your dominant eye. And the way

23:54

they test is you sort of get you to hold your finger up in

23:56

front of you and look at – Well, that's a good

23:59

point. line with something in the distance and then you see which

24:01

of the two eye which are the two eyes you've

24:03

actually lined the thing up with. Or

24:07

if that doesn't work well enough then they'll then hold

24:10

your hands up both flat in front

24:12

of you palms out making it like a little hole in

24:14

between your thumb and the rest of your hands like

24:17

folded over each other. Wait, say that again? There

24:19

are some... hold

24:21

okay hold both of your hands up in front of you and

24:24

kind of like interl... put one over the

24:26

other just leaving a small hole in between

24:28

where your thumbs are like in a crook of your thumbs like

24:31

a little circle. Does that make sense? Make a hole

24:33

with your thumbs. So put both your

24:35

hands directly in front of you and then put them

24:37

both inwards a bit and then put one hand

24:39

over the other. Put one hand over the

24:42

other. Okay. Alright

24:45

so that sort of at an angle and just leave like

24:47

a little hole where

24:49

the crook of your thumb is that

24:52

you can see through. And

24:54

stare at something in the distance stare at something on the far side of the

24:56

room and then move your hand towards

24:59

your face still staring at it. Keep

25:01

staring at that thing keep staring at that thing and move your hand towards

25:03

your face and keep staring at it

25:06

and which of your eyes did you now move your hands which

25:08

of your eyes did you move it towards because I moved my towards

25:10

my right eye. Yeah. Okay but

25:13

you have to start with the thing visible through...

25:18

Just know this is a fact. Yeah. Know

25:21

it is a fact. This is just depend

25:23

on which hand

25:25

you put on top of the other one though you said just pick

25:27

a random hand. No it doesn't

25:30

like you you will I've been pretty sure I

25:32

tried with your hands loops over the other way and I think you'll

25:34

still move it back that way. I'm right

25:36

eye dominant for sure. Here's

25:39

my point is I don't like having

25:41

unnecessary holes justify the holes.

25:44

Sure. And we got two

25:46

not... Why would you have two holes if they don't have a purpose?

25:49

Use them and I it's also

25:52

interesting because it's like most

25:55

mammals have the same nostril

25:58

situation like Like,

26:01

eyes and mammals are all over the place,

26:04

right? Like predatory species, they're in front,

26:06

and then like they're on the side, and you know,

26:09

horizontal pupils and all that shit. And

26:11

then the ears are chaos, just

26:13

all over the map. But it seems that the

26:16

nostrils, it's always just two

26:18

of them, they're real close together. Yep. They're

26:21

above the mouth, they're really close together. And

26:23

I just, I

26:26

don't know, man, we're going to need, you know, because

26:29

one hole would make more sense if this is all...

26:31

Well, here's what this study... Here's what this

26:32

study did. Yeah, but I actually think that two makes

26:34

more sense because if you can't breathe,

26:36

you know,

26:38

it alternates breathing. I guess

26:40

it does

26:40

give you a chance, and like one of them can be plugged.

26:43

One of them can be plugged. It alternates breathing. Also,

26:46

too, your sinuses go to

26:48

your teeth and to your mouth and to your

26:51

eyes. Like it's a whole thing. Also, by having a

26:53

septum... You can't just have one go bad. Right, but he's so good at

26:55

it.

26:56

By having a septum as well that gives you something to wear

26:58

a ring in in case you need to be a barista. Yeah.

27:01

Absolutely. Yeah, if you want to look cool. But

27:03

then, I mean, you could make the same argument for having one mouth,

27:05

like having two mouths is clearly better. I

27:08

don't think so. Really,

27:10

you're a one mouth?

27:11

Some people use the one way too much.

27:13

I think that if we gave them two, it would

27:16

be unfortunate.

27:18

Which mouth would you guys... If you guys had two

27:20

mouths, which mouth... Which... Would

27:22

there be like a polite mouth to use? Where's

27:25

the other one? I don't know. They're

27:29

both... Okay, it's not even anything weird. It's like

27:32

they're on the side of your face. You have one on each

27:34

side of your face. Strike down the middle of

27:36

just skin.

27:37

This is going to be a weird thing to say, but I'm

27:39

going to say it. Women

27:43

and people with uteruses and vaginas do

27:45

have a connection between the two.

27:48

Connection between

27:49

what two? There's like a connection

27:52

between your mouth and your vagina.

27:57

Right. Not

27:58

in terms of... my vagina

28:00

talk but

28:03

there is like a you know it's like

28:06

okay for example we both

28:08

get you can get a yeast infection in your vagina

28:11

and in your mouth, right? So

28:13

you have a microbiome growing

28:15

in both that's similar

28:18

not exactly similar I'm still live in

28:20

there but there is a there's similarities also

28:22

too this is gonna be

28:24

telling on myself but I don't give a shit, okay?

28:27

So one of the treat so a treatment and this

28:29

is I googled it for if you

28:32

have a yeast infection is using garlic because it's

28:34

antimicrobial and antifungal you

28:36

put it in there you taste it in your mouth it's wild

28:39

it's crazy and I just told them myself

28:41

and I don't give a shit

28:42

who cares yeah

28:43

and it's crazy so there is like

28:46

there is definitely a connection but it's not like a

28:48

you know it's not another mouse but there

28:51

are I feel for women

28:52

we have a little connection what

28:54

yeah is that like the garlic gets into

28:56

your bloodstream and you because I think if you have a huge

28:59

amounts of garlic you kind of sweat it out as well don't

29:01

you? Yeah well there's there's a lot of stuff

29:03

that you can taste based

29:06

on if it's injected into your blood

29:07

I mean you guys should probably put garlic in your butts and

29:09

see I would then if you do that

29:12

then you can be like your vagina is not special Jenny

29:14

and I'd be like damn

29:15

you're right with our supermarkets

29:17

we can try this out Jenny like late like there's I've

29:20

been getting a lot of vampires in the blood. Look we're in Vegas we

29:22

can do anything that we can

29:24

do anything out here. I'm

29:27

not sure I follow the logic on

29:30

the yeast infection thing though. What

29:32

do you mean? You can get the rush

29:34

in your mouth.

29:36

Yeah I'm just saying it's no

29:38

I understand that you can get them both yeah

29:41

I like I understand they can both get a yeast

29:43

infection I just don't think that that equates

29:46

like therefore they are intimately

29:49

connected like yeah

29:51

you can get a yeast infection anything like that like

29:53

so what you know what I mean like

29:56

yeah you're you're gonna have you have mucus

29:58

membranes in your in your to like

30:00

it's yeah it doesn't matter it doesn't mean

30:03

that it's like my asshole

30:05

and my nose are connected they might be well

30:07

they are technically they are well

30:10

technically your

30:11

nose and your asshole are more connected

30:13

from a

30:14

tough logical standpoint

30:16

you're at the bottom yeah you're a little

30:19

more connected all the way down through

30:21

your nose and out your ass yeah

30:24

yes no and it's been done it's been done

30:27

and it'll be done again I just

30:30

think it like if we're gonna like

30:32

you know if we're gonna look at things that mouths

30:36

have in common with us it's like well yeah

30:38

yeah totally

30:38

it's like yeah if we're gonna talk about someone

30:41

having two mouths

30:43

why not also connect a mouth in the vagina

30:45

no it's a sexism that's stopping you sounds

30:48

like it

30:48

oh whoa

30:50

sexism

30:50

and science here we go

30:52

I know I'm patriarchy

30:56

just this is it here

30:59

right now so if you guys had two mouths

31:01

on your face not one else left

31:04

and right symmetrical stereo mouths

31:06

left mouth right mouth you'd you

31:09

think you would have like a dominant mouth based on what your

31:11

dominant handedness like a preferred one to eat with

31:13

for

31:14

sure hmm

31:15

you think you think

31:17

one's eating one's talking like is it like that you

31:19

pick one that'd be crazy specialized

31:22

crazy talk get

31:26

the fuck out of here with that

31:28

come on but wait do you have one set of vocal cords

31:30

huh yeah how far

31:32

down is that the bifurcation

31:34

you can't really like

31:36

it would have to be the same yeah

31:39

you can't

31:40

talk out of both differently I mean

31:42

you

31:43

know I think for it to be useful

31:46

you'd really need well

31:48

actually if you're gonna do this anyway

31:51

like you might as well have one be purely

31:53

digestive and one you're gonna do this I'm

31:56

getting my scalpels out well yeah

31:59

all right Before we do this, let's just make sure

32:01

this makes sense. Yeah. But as it is

32:03

now... I'm pretty sure it will, but just to be absolutely

32:05

sure, before we do this, which we are going to...

32:08

Before...

32:10

Yeah, before you do that, why don't you just put garlic in

32:12

your butts and see if that works. I mean, that's a

32:14

given. That's already happening. Yeah, let's

32:16

do baby science steps before we start

32:19

adding extra mouths.

32:20

But also, we have

32:22

the one tube splitting off into two things,

32:24

right? So you've got the trachea and the esophagus. Why

32:27

not just keep those two going up the whole way?

32:29

Perhaps you'll have an eating mouth and a breathing

32:31

and talking mouth. Yep. Yep,

32:34

I'm on board. I'm pitching that. I don't

32:37

know if you guys are... How gross

32:39

would the eating mouth get? What's

32:41

that?

32:42

Like it's just for food. Like it's just...

32:44

It becomes a really gross mouth you don't want

32:46

to leave it with. Which one would you make out with?

32:48

That's the question. Come on, talk about it. Which

32:51

mouth are you kissing? The breathing talking. Yeah,

32:53

but then you could...

32:54

But some people would want to talk while they're making

32:57

out. Yeah,

32:58

that's a good point. And then you can give tips. Yeah.

33:01

You know what I mean? You can...

33:03

Wait, is there only one person

33:05

who has this or we're

33:06

all born with two? We all have it and do it...

33:08

Also, do you have two separate tongues because

33:10

you need your tongue for both eating and talking?

33:13

Yep. You've got a tongue on each. I think

33:15

you've got two tongues. And... Oh, do you have

33:17

teeth in the talking one? I guess that also is important for our

33:19

version of speech. They're both identical. They're

33:21

both identical mouths. Okay. Okay.

33:24

You know, so you can pick. You can just pick which one's eating and

33:26

talking. Absolutely. You're

33:28

allowed to. But hang on. You're

33:30

allowed to pick. I don't think that works because... No, you need one

33:33

tube to go to the stomach. Yeah, because one is...

33:35

Yeah,

33:35

you can only... You can't pick. Okay.

33:38

Does your neck have like a rotation

33:40

thing and it'll swivel around so you

33:42

can make the two tubes connect to

33:44

the opposite? I'm assuming there's a different side of your teeth. That's

33:48

what we have. Well, no, no, no. I'm assuming

33:50

there's a disc within it that you spin around 180 degrees

33:53

and the tubes... Yes, obviously that's what neck bolts are

33:55

for. The third podcast in a row. The

33:57

bolts in your neck. By

34:00

the way, we still haven't gotten to the actual article, have we? Well,

34:02

we're hard- no, we've got to the beginning of it, but we haven't

34:05

actually- We haven't actually- right, right. Anyway,

34:07

found out what their experiment was. Yeah, it's

34:09

a good podcast, we have. So, yeah, I

34:11

really didn't think this story would take us down that long

34:13

a detour, but it happens, and that's- Sorry.

34:16

There was

34:16

a lot of rage against this

34:19

ability to smell two things. I'm

34:22

gonna say, it was coming in hot.

34:25

So, researchers from

34:27

the University of Pennsylvania and the Baroneurological

34:29

Institute and Ohio State, in this

34:31

did the help of ten epilepsy

34:33

patients who already had electrodes

34:35

implanted into their brains. One

34:38

of three different scents, as

34:40

well as a control consisting of pure

34:42

air, was put into either nostril or

34:44

both together. After several

34:46

seconds, the subject was asked to identify the smell,

34:49

then state which nostril they used to detect it, left

34:51

or right. Or both. Meanwhile,

34:54

the researchers collected data on the brain's response via

34:57

the electrodes, and the team made a number

34:59

of interesting observations. For example, when the same

35:01

smell was presented to each nostril in turn, the

35:03

resulting brain activity was similar but not

35:06

identical, suggesting some independence. What's

35:08

more, smelling through two nostrils together created

35:11

two distinct bursts of activity. Though

35:13

the time between them was very short, it was there, and the

35:15

researchers suggested that this again points to the nostrils

35:17

not always being in unison. Two

35:20

nostrils were better than one when it came to identifying odors

35:22

and identifying them more quickly, which hints

35:24

that there's definitely some benefit to having two nostrils

35:26

rather than one, as with eyes and ears but not

35:29

mouths. Why would you say mouths, says

35:31

the doctor? What

35:35

kind of absolute moron would suggest mouths,

35:38

says the article. The

35:41

analysis concentrated on the piriform

35:43

cortex, the PC brain region, where

35:46

the sense of smell is handled and interpreted. As

35:48

we already know, our different senses are closely

35:50

interconnected too, which means the findings may have implications

35:53

beyond smell. Earlier research

35:55

has shown that rats can smell in stereo,

35:58

using both nostrils to identify where a smell is. others

36:00

coming from the team behind the study

36:02

now to investigate whether this happens with humans too

36:05

and how the differences in timing and odor coding

36:07

in the nostrils have worked out in the brain oh

36:10

we could have just read the article yeah I could

36:12

have just done the preparation for a podcast

36:17

odor information arising from the two nostrils

36:19

is temporarily segregated in the

36:22

human pair form context covering

36:25

everything we've got yes

36:30

like sections can happen in both nostrils funny

36:34

they didn't cover that because there's no money

36:36

in women's science okay that's why

36:38

they're not covering

36:39

it this budget on dick pills

36:42

we would have studied this in women but

36:45

unfortunately none of us could get boners so

36:47

we had to

36:47

work we're just typing this with our boners so

36:51

he's rats instead also

36:53

I was gonna

36:55

say though the only they only

36:58

use people who are who are narcoleptic

37:00

right

37:01

it was a pillow

37:03

sorry epileptic and so

37:06

I'm wondering if there is something different because

37:08

of their brains that's a fair point

37:11

that it doesn't your

37:13

study yeah this study is on 10 patients

37:16

with epilepsy which is a small

37:18

firstly a very small sample and secondly like

37:20

people who's brain is sick people

37:23

whose brains are in some way different from the

37:25

general population so yeah it is sure I

37:29

think that's a fair critique of

37:32

possible shortcoming in this study thanks I

37:34

like to critique science because I do my

37:37

own research

37:43

this is interesting I wouldn't

37:45

have what let me ask you guys this

37:47

what what targeted ad are you getting

37:50

off to the right of that I had

37:52

locked baby I got nothing I'm

37:54

getting all truffles and it's

37:57

all truffle shit and I I

37:59

don't know why and I

38:02

guess it's because of what we did. We did

38:04

a truffle story last week. It's like I despise

38:07

mushrooms, like despise them. Oh.

38:10

And yeah, this podcast is ruining

38:12

my targeted ads. Absolutely. It's a mess.

38:15

I'm trying to get it to load ads. I just disabled

38:18

my blocker and it's still not giving me anything. I

38:20

don't know why. You're on Science Alert, correct?

38:23

Yeah. Obviously. Weird.

38:27

I don't know. Where

38:29

did the mushroom hatred come from? I always

38:31

hated them my whole lives. Yeah. I've

38:35

just, I've never, it was immediately,

38:38

it was, and I know I'm alone on this. I know

38:40

people enjoy it. You know, go for it. You like a lovely

38:42

umami flavor. Okay.

38:44

You do you. My whole life I've,

38:47

mushrooms have given me the heebie jeebies. The

38:50

heebie jeebies. Oh, the heebie jeebies?

38:52

Yes. Both of them. Who hurt you? I

38:55

don't know. What mushroom hurt you? Yeah.

38:57

Ever since I was a kid, I don't know. I

39:01

was never forced to eat

39:03

them as a kid. I'm sure I wouldn't have liked them. So

39:05

then I was able to like, just sort

39:08

of come at them fresh as an adult

39:10

and be like, this is fine. This is

39:12

earthy, but good. Sure. Sure.

39:16

Not judging. I mean, I hate, my olive hatred

39:18

is a pure and all

39:20

you do. You do hate olives. Burns with the white

39:22

hot intensity of a

39:25

neutron star, which might or might not be white. And I

39:27

should know that, but um, maybe

39:30

there's no light coming out of a neutron star. I don't know

39:32

that. I know there, there isn't light coming out of a neutron star.

39:34

Is there? No, I think there are. Hang

39:37

on. It's not, it's not like there's no

39:39

more reactions happening. It's all just neutrons.

39:41

All the protons and electrons got squished together to become

39:43

neutrons. There's no fusion happening. I don't

39:46

think they would have any reason to be emitting

39:49

light. They have pulses of radiate. Oh no,

39:52

that wait. Hold on magnetic pulsars,

39:54

which are spinning neutron stars, right? They

39:57

can create bursts of light though. Yeah.

39:59

Either way, that guy hates olives. Yeah, olives. That

40:02

was a point. Oh, man.

40:04

Boy.

40:05

Boy, is he every... Jenny, any unacceptable foods?

40:08

Anything you

40:09

like? No, I really... I love mushrooms

40:11

and I love olives. Okay. Big fan over

40:13

here. And mushrooms, they're

40:15

just so good for you. They do so many good things. I

40:18

know. I know. Neuroplasticity,

40:21

they're really good. Like cancer, fighting,

40:23

like... The whole thing... And

40:26

actually, we are closer to mushrooms than we are

40:29

to anything else.

40:30

You guys, with your proximity to

40:33

the sphere with the YouTube concert, are the closest

40:35

to mushrooms to the video.

40:37

I don't think anyone at the YouTube concert did

40:40

mushrooms. I don't think that's the

40:42

first thing you do when you go to the concert.

40:43

No, not at a YouTube concert. I

40:45

think it's the first thing you would do if you went to that venue.

40:49

I think a significant number of people who are paying like $400 a

40:51

ticket, probably. It's

40:54

just Coke.

40:55

Yeah. They're doing cocaine

40:58

at the YouTube concert. They're on the edge.

41:02

But no, I think mushrooms are very good. They have a Coke

41:04

nostril and a breathing nostril.

41:05

That's also too. How much Coke

41:07

did these epileptics do?

41:11

They brought out themselves. Yeah, I had seen that originally. That

41:14

was originally actually... I was just

41:15

saying, it's a very small, very

41:17

niche group to be making this

41:20

very blanket statement that

41:21

each nostril smells differently. One

41:24

does seem pretty small for a study. That is

41:26

really

41:26

small. I wouldn't trust 10 people for

41:29

anything.

41:31

Yeah, I don't even trust nine

41:33

in Washington right now. Hey! You

41:36

know what I mean? Let's get

41:38

real here, folks. The media

41:41

is... Oh,

41:43

by the way, speaking of politics, I mean, this

41:46

is a total left-hand, but did you guys follow

41:48

this Bin Laden thing? Oh,

41:51

I... Oh, are there like retconning

41:53

Bin Laden? The kids are all standing

41:56

for Bin Laden now. It's like, oh, this is 2023.

41:59

baby yeah

42:01

this is what it's wild

42:04

it's not gonna get too into

42:06

it but it's like

42:06

it's it's so fucking crazy

42:09

and insane wasn't this a massive

42:12

it was it was a massive

42:14

like misinformation op though right no

42:17

it was the actual I mean I can't believe people

42:19

didn't read it I remember reading it no no I know

42:21

the letter I'm talking about just just the

42:23

I know the letter was real and all that in the Guardian

42:25

but I just mean just exploding the like

42:29

really pushing this narrative of like that

42:31

kids love him yeah I mean

42:33

I've seen you know I take that compilation of like 20

42:35

people doing it but yeah that doesn't mean it's prevalent

42:38

it's just funny if even if any one of those

42:40

is real it's like all right guys

42:43

yeah I mean has has anyone

42:45

ever argued that it's

42:47

like I thought the whole argument was that

42:50

terrorism is not how to accomplish the

42:52

point you're trying to make not that you have no point

42:55

oh right yeah those those two things

42:57

just don't even have to be like litigated

43:00

in the same thought right or yeah you

43:02

can deal with those two ideas independently of each other

43:05

and you should be able to right

43:07

so it's it's a weird I

43:09

don't think sorry

43:11

no it's like a weird argument

43:13

to make in any like

43:17

it's like no at no point do you have to hand

43:19

it to bin Laden right you don't

43:22

understand like it's like dude

43:24

you can't I don't care how fervently you believe

43:26

something or what it's you can't at no point

43:29

you can't do terrorism's yeah

43:31

stop doing terrorism's the fuck

43:34

seems pretty common sense but

43:35

yeah but a 22 year old who wants

43:38

likes is not gonna give a shit about

43:39

that right right right

43:41

that's what they're gonna see and they're gonna you

43:43

know it's

43:44

huh

43:45

it's not you know I'm just excited for the

43:47

end let's just go let's just

43:50

speed this up a little bit more like the podcast

43:52

of the world into the world

43:55

well speaking of dead guys we did have a comment on our

43:57

last episode friend listener Glenn lock who

43:59

has Did he did? He hasn't

44:01

but he has attended Frozen Dead Guy Day. He's

44:04

a bolder Colorado listener. Yep, Frozen Dead Guy

44:06

Fest. Oh, what's that? This is something we discovered last

44:09

week thanks to another listener. The

44:11

Frozen Dead Guy Festival. The dead

44:13

guy is known as Grandpa Bredo and he was

44:16

kept on dry ice in a tough shed in Netherlands,

44:19

Colorado. They used to give tours of the shed

44:21

during the festival. They had casket,

44:23

the casket races, which we read about last week,

44:25

were hilarious apparently. With six people carrying

44:28

a casket they built containing another

44:30

person through an obstacle course that included

44:32

a tough shed. I don't know what a tough shed

44:34

is, TUFS. It's just a brand of like, you can buy

44:36

it pre-made plastic, I think it's a plastic

44:39

shed, you can buy it like a Vipo or something. Apparently

44:41

most of the caskets fell apart and Glenn

44:44

makes the possibly libelous claim that

44:46

this festival was mostly an excuse to day drink.

44:49

Wait a sec. Yeah, that sounds

44:51

libelous indeed. I

44:53

don't know if the people of Colorado are going to accept that. You

44:55

may have an expensive lawsuit on your hands there, Glenn

44:57

Lockwood. I love a weird festival.

45:03

It seems like the kind of thing that shouldn't happen in America. This

45:05

should be like in Northern

45:07

Europe or something or Eastern Europe. It definitely feels

45:09

like a Midsummer vibe to it. Well,

45:12

it's not a- Belarus or

45:14

something, yeah. Right, but it's the fact that it's

45:16

called the Frozen Dead Guy Festival.

45:19

To me, it makes it American instead of just

45:21

like- Well, but if

45:23

it was in Germany, it would just be called that, but it would be one

45:26

one. Right,

45:28

okay, fair, fair, yeah. That's

45:32

wild. By the way, speaking of- Is this in Denver?

45:35

Where's Colorado? The Netherlands is outside of Denver.

45:37

The Netherlands part now has moved because the

45:39

original place ran out of money, so it's

45:42

pretty close to Boulder, Colorado. Speaking

45:47

of cold things that are about to get hot, guys,

45:49

this is maybe the biggest story

45:51

of the millennium. We'll see if it turns

45:53

out to be that, but this Iceland stuff- Oh,

45:56

yeah, it's about to explode. This

45:58

could be- Yeah, a few people sent in the Iceland stuff. the

46:00

Iceland volcano stories. Thank you. I don't even know which

46:02

story to go with because this is changing by the

46:04

hour, but Yeah, I know Christopher

46:07

Coop is one of them and I'm not sure who else but

46:09

thank you everyone

46:11

Yeah, what's gonna happen Raul? Is it the

46:13

end? Well

46:14

from what I'm from what I guess I should read

46:16

off an actual article instead of remembering what I read but

46:19

I was reading some seismologists talking about our volcanologists

46:22

talking about how this cycle

46:25

in this area or maybe even just literally

46:27

those islands has been like about a thousand

46:29

years of dormancy followed

46:31

by a few centuries of volcanic

46:34

activities So we could be heading into that

46:36

and I don't know How bad you

46:38

know like remember in 2010 when the

46:41

Iceland volcano went off and it yeah

46:44

Fucked with something like a hundred thousand flights I

46:46

got stranded in America I was meant to be going back to Europe

46:48

for gigs and I I had to stay in

46:51

the US for like an extra two weeks But

46:54

yeah, you sort of check the weather You check

46:56

the news and see where the cloud of ash was and

46:59

you check to see if any planes were taking off So

47:01

even if we're lucky enough to evacuate everyone who needs

47:04

to be in there's no loss of life on the ground if

47:06

we just Have hundreds of years of Iceland

47:08

volcanoes. That's gonna be Yeah,

47:10

not not fun

47:12

I'm almost kind of like yeah, maybe it'll

47:14

be good. It'll like calm down everything

47:16

else Like it's

47:19

like the you know the clap you would do in

47:21

kindergarten That was like done done done

47:23

done done and then to get everyone's attention. Oh

47:26

I get what you're saying. Maybe this

47:28

is earth

47:28

doing that like hey, hey, you guys

47:31

are getting real crazy

47:34

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll just put the article

47:36

here from

47:39

Let's do the CBF you never do CBS news you

47:41

never do the mainstream news, but I'm

47:43

sure people have already heard about this but there have been You

47:46

know every day. There's another well, yes from

47:49

the November 14th to 15th.

47:51

There was another 800 earthquakes overnight

47:54

Jesus it's been it's been thousands

47:56

of earthquakes in the last week there, but they

47:59

said a Wednesday morning the

47:59

experienced 800 since midnight.

48:02

Quakes came after researchers detected sulfur dioxide, a

48:05

gas that indicates magma is near the ground surface.

48:08

Most earthquakes struck early Wednesday. We're in the middle

48:10

of a magma dike at a depth between roughly

48:13

two to three miles. The country's meteorological

48:15

office said that

48:18

there are clear indications of deformation in the area and

48:20

that magma is still flowing, although part of the

48:22

dike into which it's going seems to be solidifying.

48:24

The office has also detected

48:26

measurements of sulfur dioxide, which according to the US

48:28

Geological Survey is a colourless gas

48:30

with a pungent odour that can irritate people's eyes,

48:33

noses and throats. The gas is released

48:35

when magma is relatively near the surface, which I think

48:37

is just repeating itself there. Why did they need to go to the

48:40

US Geological Survey to know what? To

48:42

say that it smells. Yeah, to

48:44

know the colourless and loadless gas. They

48:47

could have just gone that up the first line of Wikipedia. Right,

48:49

yeah, yeah. So the update

48:51

comes with the answer. We hope that NASA, who told us that

48:53

oxygen is necessary for flyers. Notice

48:57

how much we don't trust the Icelandic. Yeah.

49:00

We made smells over there. What are you talking about? Nah,

49:03

come on. I mean, they eat that weird

49:05

shark stuff. So

49:08

let's see. What's

49:13

that about sharks?

49:14

You know the fermented shark that they eat?

49:17

Oh, yeah. Who eats? Oh, and Iceland

49:19

ate this

49:20

crazy fermented shark that smells like

49:22

death and is really stinky

49:25

and apparently doesn't, I don't think, taste that good, but

49:27

I've never had it. But they eat it, so I'm like, well,

49:29

you know, maybe they

49:31

are not the number one for smells.

49:34

Speaking of smells, how

49:36

many nostrils do you think they're working with, huh?

49:38

It's called the harkari and it's a

49:41

national dish of Iceland, consisting

49:44

of a Greenland shark or another sleeper shark that has been

49:47

cured with a particular fermentation process and

49:49

hung to dry for four to five months. It has a strong

49:52

ammonia-rich smell and fishy taste, making

49:54

it an acquired taste, according to Wikipedia.

49:57

An acquired taste? It is an acquired taste. acquired.

50:03

Anything called a quiet day.

50:05

It's like that movie from

50:07

a couple of years ago. Fermented

50:10

shark is readily available in an Icelandic

50:12

store that may be eaten year-round but is most

50:15

often served as part of a poramata

50:18

which is a selection of traditional Icelandic food served

50:20

in the midwinter festival Porablot.

50:23

I don't even know whether

50:25

I was even vague.

50:26

Is that also their dead dead

50:28

guy festival?

50:30

Yeah

50:30

reactions from various

50:33

famous TV chefs include

50:36

Anthony Bourdain who described it as the single worst

50:38

most disgusting and terrible tasting thing he had ever

50:40

eaten. Wow. And

50:44

Gordon Ramsay. What did he really think about

50:46

it? But James May off

50:49

of Top Gear did manage to keep his down. I

50:52

kind of want to try it now.

50:54

Yeah it's definitely I'm sure it's the kind

50:56

of thing I bet any map there

50:59

will be videos on various

51:01

social media platforms of people doing the Fermented

51:03

Shark challenge I'm sure. Yeah.

51:08

Would you do the the chip that killed the kid or

51:10

the Fermented Shark if you had to do one of the other? Oh the

51:13

Fermented Shark. And which mouth?

51:15

What was the chip that killed the kid?

51:17

It was a it was a spicy it was one of like

51:19

the sort of ultra hot chili challenges

51:21

and some kid died. It was

51:25

a... the one we covered a few weeks ago. I don't

51:29

know but it does say that the Greenland shark

51:32

takes 150 years to resection maturity

51:35

and some of them live up to 400 years due

51:38

to this hunting of the Greenland shark is unsustainable

51:40

and slowly leading to the potential extinction of the species.

51:43

So I think I would probably do the the

51:45

chili also because I don't eat

51:48

fish so that would also be like

51:50

I was just suddenly realizing like oh yeah I'm vegetarian.

51:54

I'm vegetarian except for TikTok food challenges.

52:00

Yeah, no, I mean I've got the same, I mean I wouldn't

52:02

do either, but faced

52:05

with these issues, yes, I would have to do the chip.

52:08

Yeah, I think I'd do the chip.

52:09

I don't know. I think I'd do the shark. I

52:11

don't know. This

52:16

is kind of scary with the volcano. I

52:19

know. I'm trying to find any

52:21

experts talking about that timeline that I just

52:23

mentioned, because for now consider that

52:26

Andy talking out his ass, but yeah, I just read

52:28

someone talking about how that's been

52:31

the timeline in the past, but then I also heard that

52:34

if nothing happens in the next couple weeks, then

52:36

we're probably in the clear because it's solidified

52:39

in those underground, those

52:41

dikes, those magma tunnels, magma tubes.

52:45

So fingers crossed. I mean, I don't want that. Also,

52:48

I realize I stepped on a story Matt had queued up. I

52:50

didn't even notice. No, that's right. We can

52:52

bounce over to this. This is something I found the other

52:54

day, and I think it's

52:56

an interesting story, but also I think it's worth linking

52:58

to the Guardian article for everyone to see the

53:01

really good stock photo that

53:03

they've used to illustrate it. Great stock

53:05

photo. Because the story is anger

53:07

can lead to better results when tackling tricky

53:10

tasks. According to a study at Texas

53:12

A&M University. And in

53:14

case you want to... A very good photo. Yeah, it

53:16

might look like a man wearing,

53:18

I think a suit. Yeah, he's wearing a suit and

53:20

he has his hands on his head. And I

53:23

mean, he looks furious. He looks very angry.

53:25

He could also be the white guy

53:27

in an 80s or 90s hip hop video. Oh,

53:30

yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Because

53:32

also it even has a slightly fisheye...

53:34

It's not fully fisheye lens picture, but

53:36

it has a slight... He's

53:38

uncomfortably close to the lens of this camera.

53:41

Yeah. Yeah. Parents just

53:44

don't understand or something. Yeah. It

53:46

could be, yeah. So according

53:49

to this article by Nicola Davis, they

53:52

say you catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

53:54

But when it comes to tackling a tricky task, researchers

53:57

have found that getting angry can also be a powerful

53:59

motivator. The

54:01

experiment suggests people who are angry perform better

54:04

on a set of challenging tasks from those who are emotionally

54:06

neutral. So Dr. Heather

54:08

Lynch, who's the main author

54:10

of the study, says these findings demonstrate that

54:12

anger increases effort towards attaining a desired

54:14

goal, frequently resulting in greater

54:16

success.

54:18

I 100% agree with this. You ever

54:20

broken up with someone?

54:22

No, you ever broken up with

54:24

someone or got dumped and then you

54:26

get everything, every goal you've ever wanted

54:28

to accomplish done? No.

54:30

Fight and anger? No.

54:33

All right,

54:33

you guys aren't doing heartbreak right, okay?

54:36

It is the greatest motivator.

54:38

I think a long-term

54:40

motivator, absolutely. I totally

54:43

agree. I took it, I

54:46

guess, just from when it

54:48

says I took this as meaning like,

54:52

I don't know, like doing the dishwasher

54:55

or something instead of like a more

54:58

long-term. More than like long-term

55:00

aims rather, like short-term achievements.

55:04

So here's what they did in this study, see

55:06

if this tallies with what you were thinking. They

55:09

conducted experiments with more than a thousand people,

55:11

that's a good number, and analyzed survey data

55:13

from more than 1,400 people to explore the

55:15

possible impacts of anger on people in various circumstances.

55:19

In one experiment, students

55:21

were shown images previously found to elicit

55:23

anger, desire, amusement, sadness,

55:25

or no particular emotion at all, and

55:27

then they were asked to solve a series of anagrams.

55:30

The results revealed that for a challenging set of anagrams,

55:33

those who were angry did better than those in

55:35

the other possible emotional states, although

55:37

no difference was seen for easy anagrams. The

55:40

researchers say one explanation could be down to

55:42

a link between anger and greater persistence,

55:44

with the team finding those who were angry spent more

55:47

time on the difficult set of anagrams. And

55:49

then in another experiment, participants

55:52

who were angry did better at dodging flags

55:54

in a skiing video game than those who were neutral

55:56

or sad, and were on a par with

55:58

those who felt amusement or sadness. or desire. Oh

56:01

man. Yeah. So that this pattern

56:03

could indicate that the general physical arousal had a

56:05

benefit for game scores as it could be created.

56:08

And Cher had just yelled at Sunny for her. Awwww.

56:12

This

56:14

is just making me like all of these experiments

56:17

are making me realize it's just like, oh man,

56:20

I feel like there's a lot of money wasted on science.

56:24

It's like we could cure cancer,

56:27

but also when you're

56:29

mad, don't you just kind of get stuff done?

56:31

No, let's do that. Now

56:33

we have a tool for curing cancer, which is like kick

56:36

those scientists in the nuts. Yeah,

56:38

just handle them. Show them images

56:40

to make them furious.

56:42

Get them mad. Yeah,

56:45

don't get them sad though. The climate

56:47

scientists are too sad. We think it's the

56:49

mad. Well,

56:50

a lot of people fail to realize the amount of anagrams

56:52

involved with curing cancer. It's

56:55

a series of anagrams.

56:58

Curing cancer is much like skiing down

57:00

a hill and trying to dodge flesh.

57:02

Yep, they've always said

57:04

that. Yeah. So it

57:06

does say, again, no differences

57:09

in performers were found when it came to an easier video

57:11

game. So again, it has to be a tougher

57:14

game. One experiment

57:14

suggested- Curing cancer is a tough game.

57:16

It is. One experiment suggested

57:18

being angry increased the degree to which participants

57:21

cheated on tasks compared to the other participants.

57:24

Except the management. I want to know if it's

57:26

an easy video game. Yeah, how do you cheat

57:29

on that? And another experiment found anger

57:31

was associated with lower reaction times on a task.

57:34

Wait, that makes you better at a task than also worse

57:37

at a task?

57:37

No, low reaction time is better. No, low reaction time

57:39

is better. That threw me for a second as well.

57:42

I think low reaction time meaning a good thing as in

57:44

a smaller reaction time. Oh, okay. In

57:48

addition, responses to surveys around

57:50

the 2016 and 2020 US

57:52

general election suggested that people who

57:54

are more angry about a hypothetical win for

57:56

a presidential candidate they did not support were

57:59

more likely to- vote in the subsequent election

58:01

though. I mean I don't think that's that surprising, is it? What

58:04

does that have to do with that? Does that even relate to the... hold on. If

58:06

they're more angry about a hypothetical win... Maybe

58:08

if the polling booth that you need to go

58:10

to is at the bottom of the ski hill. Right,

58:13

you're going to get their facts.

58:15

You're going to dodge all those libs giving out

58:18

water to people.

58:22

So Lynch

58:24

says, people often prefer to use positive

58:26

emotions as tools more than negative and

58:28

tend to see negative emotions as undesirable

58:31

and maladaptive. Our research adds to

58:33

the growing evidence that a mix of positive and negative

58:35

emotions promotes wellbeing and

58:37

using negative emotions as tools can be particularly

58:39

effective in some situations. I

58:42

mean that's kind of common sense. Disagreeableness

58:45

is correlated with high success in the

58:47

corporate world, right,

58:50

as a trait. Like

58:53

CEOs, you're not going to find the most agreeable,

58:57

stable, sanguine,

58:59

like being a dick that

59:02

does get you success by some definitions

59:04

and measures that... yeah,

59:07

that makes sense. I

59:11

like you sort of slowly convincing yourself back. You sort

59:13

of talk to yourself out of it for a second and then we're like, no, no.

59:16

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no one else to say anything and I just

59:19

keep talking until I'm pretty

59:21

sure that I'm right. I

59:25

would say I'm always at a low level

59:27

of irritable, like it's like a slow

59:30

burn level of irritable just all the time.

59:33

That's healthy.

59:36

Yeah, sure, sure.

59:38

But like, yeah, I'm so far from

59:41

being a CEO or any sort of... I think

59:44

it can work for some of them. I don't know. Wait,

59:47

you're saying you are kind of irritable, therefore

59:50

you should be a CEO. I'm

59:52

saying I have... I think I have a lot

59:55

of those traits, like incompetence makes

59:57

me furious, like... Disagreeableness

1:00:02

might be a necessary but not sufficient precondition

1:00:05

to becoming CEO. Right, right. Trust

1:00:08

me, it takes more than that. Otherwise, it's just people

1:00:10

just kind of think you're a douchey just hanging out. But

1:00:14

I mean, geez, in entertainment too, I'm thinking

1:00:16

of showrunners whose

1:00:18

main value

1:00:21

add is just disagreeable.

1:00:25

Oh

1:00:25

yeah, definitely. I

1:00:28

also would like to point

1:00:30

out that all of these things

1:00:32

like getting tasks done and

1:00:36

most of science, I feel like, can really

1:00:39

just be boiled

1:00:42

down to are you rich or not?

1:00:45

And that would just make tasks actually

1:00:47

are easier when you're rich, not when

1:00:49

you're angry. Like everything is better

1:00:52

when you're just rich. Well,

1:00:54

okay, well, let's – okay,

1:00:57

maybe, but then how come

1:00:59

so many children of rich people don't go

1:01:01

on to do great things? I mean, Bin

1:01:04

Laden did to bring it full – there

1:01:06

you go. He's

1:01:08

a family billionaire, so he – I did

1:01:10

see that as like a sort of right-leaning

1:01:13

counterpoint to the kids falling in love with him. They're

1:01:15

like, we should remind these kids that Bin Laden's bad.

1:01:17

I mean, his father's a millionaire. Yeah,

1:01:19

billionaire, I think. He's a Nepo baby. Yeah. Remember?

1:01:22

You just got to use their language to

1:01:24

manipulate those kids back. There

1:01:26

was a normal favor

1:01:27

in the Twin Towers. Yeah. Well,

1:01:30

okay.

1:01:31

Crew, they're not doing anything,

1:01:34

but they also probably don't struggle with tasks. They

1:01:36

just don't have any tasks because they're rich.

1:01:38

Yeah, but like I think about Nick Kroll

1:01:40

a lot with this one because like, yes,

1:01:42

his dad is literally a billionaire, but like, dude,

1:01:46

busted his ass and is way funnier than

1:01:48

any of us. I mean, like, show me something.

1:01:51

Okay, thank you. You asked me to be on

1:01:53

this podcast, okay? Let me come here

1:01:55

and see. That's the funniest dude. You

1:01:58

don't – I'm gonna retrace this, Susan.

1:01:59

crazy how funny you can get when you don't have

1:02:02

to think about paying rent or paying your bills.

1:02:04

If that were true, then

1:02:07

point out all the other billions. It

1:02:09

just doesn't happen that often. Most of the time, people in that

1:02:11

position are super idle and he busted

1:02:13

his ass and I begrudge him nothing. You know what I mean?

1:02:16

Yeah, but okay, but he busted his ass but

1:02:18

also probably had, and again,

1:02:21

I don't know, but had a safety net

1:02:23

so he could have the time and the mental

1:02:25

clarity to bust his ass. You

1:02:27

don't need as

1:02:28

much money as he had to have enough time

1:02:30

to go do the open mics and things.

1:02:34

He has well beyond what they're putting people that have

1:02:37

enough and still don't. I

1:02:40

don't know. I don't think that having a lot of money

1:02:42

guarantees you. It guarantees you will keep

1:02:44

having a lot of money, but I don't know that it guarantees you any

1:02:47

measurable success in other... I

1:02:49

think we're all saying it doesn't hurt. Yeah,

1:02:52

it doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt. Second-generation

1:02:55

rich kids don't do very many

1:02:57

impressive things in general. But

1:03:00

isn't that a lot of that is things that... What

1:03:05

I've noticed, whenever you're

1:03:08

hanging out with the filthy rich, is they make the massive

1:03:10

mistake of thinking that money can fix every

1:03:12

problem. They do dumb

1:03:14

shit. They don't train their dogs. Every

1:03:18

rich person's dog's a fucking mess

1:03:21

or they bring in a trainer or whatever and they do the

1:03:23

same with their kids. They don't really raise their children.

1:03:27

I'm not saying you got to raise your kids fucking family

1:03:29

guy. I'm saying it's neglectful. I

1:03:32

know a lot of rich kids turn out super

1:03:34

fucked up. Yeah,

1:03:35

and we all became comedians because

1:03:37

we were probably neglected and needed

1:03:41

to seek validation. So Nick Kroll with

1:03:43

a rich dad probably get a lot of daddy attention.

1:03:46

Right. I mean, it all... Yeah,

1:03:48

a lot of that checks out to me. I think that a lot of really...

1:03:52

I think just as

1:03:54

far as social development goes...

1:03:58

And I'm probably using that term completely wrong. but maybe how

1:04:01

we pan out emotionally or whatever, poverty

1:04:05

and wealth has an extreme

1:04:08

amount of overlap with like-

1:04:10

Poverty and wealth. Yeah.

1:04:13

Generally your parents just weren't really

1:04:16

around. You're

1:04:18

just living in a series of different

1:04:20

places. Oh, okay. I see. There's

1:04:23

a lot of commonality. Yeah. To the experience

1:04:25

of being ... Okay. Right, right, right. Yeah. And

1:04:28

between those two, of course, the preferable

1:04:30

one is make it luxurious, comfortable

1:04:33

and ... You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

1:04:35

Is it a golden cage or is it just

1:04:38

a rusty- Right, right. Tenement

1:04:40

housing cage.

1:04:41

I don't even have tenement housing anymore. A

1:04:43

CEO is probably at home

1:04:46

as infrequently as a parent

1:04:48

holding down three jobs just to try to put food

1:04:50

on the table. Yeah. I

1:04:54

think that there's probably similar

1:04:56

levels of domestic abuse

1:04:58

and horrible things people put up with. I'm

1:05:01

saying- Yeah, I bet physical violence

1:05:03

is probably skewing in one of those directions

1:05:06

more than the other. Well, I think what I'm hearing

1:05:08

is that we should feel bad for the wealthy

1:05:10

because they have it just

1:05:11

as hard. Not

1:05:14

what I'm saying at all. I'm saying it

1:05:16

doesn't shock me that a lot of wealthy kids don't do

1:05:19

shit. It's

1:05:21

like that's what I'm

1:05:23

saying. And as much as I would like money, I wouldn't

1:05:25

like to deal with the predicament of how to raise rich

1:05:27

kids not to be assholes either. That

1:05:30

doesn't seem like a ... It seems like a very uphill battle.

1:05:34

But I guess it's also an uphill battle, racing kid.

1:05:36

In the world we've ... No, in this current version

1:05:39

of the world we created, you're supposed to tell them

1:05:41

not to use the phone that you're also using all the time.

1:05:43

Like I have no idea how anybody does anything. Yeah, that you

1:05:45

ignore them with. Yeah. I'm

1:05:49

just saying

1:05:50

that a lot of this stuff that like ...

1:05:52

Okay, I always think about obesity

1:05:55

research or weight research where it's

1:05:57

like all

1:05:58

this research ...

1:05:59

that they do, they never factor in

1:06:02

the class of the person.

1:06:05

Like if you can't afford good food,

1:06:07

you can't afford to exercise,

1:06:09

you're working, all this stuff, you're

1:06:12

going to skew towards

1:06:15

probably a heavier set body but

1:06:18

it's always placed on the person, not on society

1:06:22

in that poverty has a huge

1:06:26

part to play in that. Same

1:06:28

with just a lot of mental

1:06:30

and all these mental issues or environments,

1:06:33

it's like if you're rich it doesn't matter,

1:06:35

you can pretty much get yourself out

1:06:37

of anything. Except

1:06:40

being able to smell, I'm sure a rich person will

1:06:42

be able to connect their noses.

1:06:44

Can you get the second

1:06:46

mouth? A rich person

1:06:48

would get a second mouth. Well

1:06:50

they're going to get it first, no doubt. It's going

1:06:53

to be like the fucking Starbelly Sneetches, the

1:06:55

Twitter verify check mark game, and

1:06:59

once it becomes democratized then it will be

1:07:01

like, oh it's gross to have two mouths and then

1:07:03

the rich people will go back to having one. I

1:07:06

think that's important to say too

1:07:08

is that a lot of things that are completely

1:07:10

environmental are put on the person

1:07:13

as if it's some sort of they

1:07:15

didn't have enough hustle. It's like,

1:07:17

no, you too can look like

1:07:19

Kendall Jenner if you're raised like Kendall Jenner, anyone

1:07:22

can. If you're a billionaire,

1:07:24

yes. Well I mean if you have a private

1:07:27

chef cooking every meal that specifically

1:07:30

gives you that body. Wait, is Kendall Jenner

1:07:32

in great shape? Whichever,

1:07:34

I don't know. One of the model-y... Kendall

1:07:37

looking good. Kendall looked the most, I think the

1:07:39

most normal out of all of them. I don't know which one.

1:07:41

Maybe I don't know who was who in this jam. You just had a name, didn't you? Yeah.

1:07:45

No, I get that. As soon as I accidentally landed on

1:07:47

a correct one. Oh,

1:07:50

but she's just skinny. She's not like in shape,

1:07:53

she's not like known for her physical fitness

1:07:55

or something. But if you have the time

1:07:57

to... If that's your

1:07:59

full time... job, you have your influencer

1:08:01

deals so you can do two hours of Pilates

1:08:03

a day, a nutritionist cooks all your meals

1:08:05

for you, you literally like you don't have to figure

1:08:08

any of that shit out. I'm just saying aside

1:08:10

from having like some weird asymmetry

1:08:12

or maybe born with, you will be

1:08:16

hot. Like wealth can

1:08:18

buy you hotness. Yeah. And

1:08:20

your father is the greatest athlete of all time. Sure.

1:08:24

Or was that the

1:08:27

lawyer? I don't know who they... I don't know enough

1:08:30

of that. They're the decathletes.

1:08:32

Caitlyn Jenner is there.

1:08:33

So I'm saying the opposite is also

1:08:36

true where poverty can...

1:08:38

yeah of course you can be like

1:08:42

so much goes into that when all

1:08:45

you can get for dinner because you have five bucks

1:08:47

is the five Big Macs. You

1:08:49

know what I'm saying? I'm

1:08:52

saying that's so fucking insistent. I

1:08:54

also don't think that someone who's four

1:08:56

is sitting and eating five Big Macs.

1:08:57

No I don't. I don't. I'm

1:09:00

saying like you can you live in a food desert. It's all

1:09:02

you or you have to you have to work so much you literally

1:09:04

can't do food prep. Like I get

1:09:07

it. I'm trying to agree with Jenny but

1:09:09

I'm saying it like an asshole. I think

1:09:11

we all agree on all this stuff. Yeah. I'm saying totally

1:09:13

wrong. Yeah.

1:09:19

And it's like if you are especially it's like with the anger

1:09:22

part on this last one if you are

1:09:24

in a constant state of

1:09:26

you know scarcity and

1:09:28

having to survive of course you're gonna be

1:09:31

on edge so you're probably better

1:09:33

at doing your tasks because if you don't do

1:09:35

them you'll die. Yeah

1:09:37

that's why anxiety sticks

1:09:39

around is like evolutionarily that would have made

1:09:41

sense at some point. Now it's probably

1:09:43

blown out of alignment with our current environment

1:09:46

but like you should have anxiety about

1:09:48

the possibility of whatever predator eating

1:09:51

you and that keeps you yeah yeah

1:09:53

keeps you hustling. Mmm yeah.

1:09:56

Guys I solved science. You're well-founded.

1:09:59

Yeah well that's

1:09:59

seems like a perfect place to wrap up the main episode.

1:10:02

We'll say, now that science has been solved,

1:10:04

hopefully there'll be one branch of science

1:10:06

that's left open for the Patreon patrons

1:10:09

to have a bonus story. But Jenny,

1:10:12

how can our listeners find you and everything you're doing?

1:10:14

I'm at jennyzagrino on Instagram,

1:10:17

jennyzagrinocomedy on TikTok, and jennyzagrino.com.

1:10:20

Can I tell you guys my favorite science fact?

1:10:22

Yes. Yeah.

1:10:24

Okay, so this

1:10:26

goes out to my friend, Stefan.

1:10:29

So I learned this, that

1:10:32

in order to check sperm virility, they

1:10:37

inject it into a hamster ovum.

1:10:42

Because hamster ovum will take anything,

1:10:45

it takes all of it, and

1:10:48

then eventually it goes, oh, this isn't a hamster, and then

1:10:50

it destroys, but that's how they

1:10:52

test virility in sperm, is

1:10:54

they

1:10:55

inject it into hamster ovum. It will

1:10:57

create not a viable... No,

1:11:00

it will eventually destroy itself, but it will

1:11:02

duplicate.

1:11:02

It will permeate the egg.

1:11:07

The sperm penetration assay,

1:11:09

the SPA, otherwise known as the hamster

1:11:12

test, or the hamster egg

1:11:14

penetration test, which is the HEPT,

1:11:17

is a laboratory test to predict the capacity

1:11:19

of a man's sperm to fertilize a woman's egg. In

1:11:22

a laboratory, sperm is joined with prepared

1:11:24

hamster eggs. The number of penetrated

1:11:27

eggs is measured to ensure the sperm

1:11:29

is undergoing the natural physiological changes

1:11:31

for fertilization. The hamster eggs-

1:11:34

We'll probably do it now, yeah. Yeah, the hamster eggs are chemically

1:11:36

treated to allow normal human sperm to penetrate

1:11:38

them. Prepared sperm are incubated with 15

1:11:41

to 20 hamster eggs. If the sperm is functioning

1:11:43

correctly, it will be able to penetrate the eggs. The

1:11:46

assay is stopped after three hours, and all the eggs

1:11:48

are fixed on glass slides for analysis. Less

1:11:50

than 50% of eggs penetrated may mean

1:11:53

that the sperm has limited capacity to fertilize.

1:11:56

If the penetration is above 50%, however, the sperm

1:11:58

should have- fertilization capability.

1:12:01

If the penetration count is low, a physician may recommend

1:12:06

intracytoplasmic sperm injection,

1:12:08

ICSA, during in vitro fertilization

1:12:11

treatment. How many hamster

1:12:13

people you think are just around that we

1:12:15

don't know about? Yeah. Samsters

1:12:18

are always getting used for weird bedroom

1:12:20

stuff. I feel a little horrible around here.

1:12:22

They're getting shoved up in ass or someone's running.

1:12:25

Well, let's not conflate the gerbil in the hamster

1:12:27

here. Yeah, you're right. No, you're right. You're

1:12:29

getting right. Correct. Tomato, tomato to

1:12:31

some. I always get both mixed up with Mars bars, like

1:12:34

which? But

1:12:37

wait, I'm sorry. What did it say about

1:12:39

stopping, like, they stop? Yes,

1:12:42

they stop it from going further, right?

1:12:45

So if they didn't stop it, what would

1:12:47

happen? Well, I don't think anything would happen. Well, what do you

1:12:49

think would happen, Andy? I know, but a

1:12:51

free hamster baby is what would happen.

1:12:54

What scientists are just like,

1:12:56

I believe in life

1:12:59

begins a conception and

1:13:02

won't just get rid of it, just take it

1:13:04

home.

1:13:04

Here is the religious right on this one.

1:13:07

Yeah. Where are they on the weird

1:13:09

hamster babies? Those scientists

1:13:11

are just sitting in there with their boners, ignoring

1:13:14

women's health.

1:13:15

Yeah, they could be, you know, populating

1:13:17

the world of hamster, a little army of

1:13:19

hamster

1:13:20

babies. Just so you're aware, by

1:13:22

the way, this test is not an

1:13:24

absolute determinant for fertility potential

1:13:26

because it does not analyze other important aspects

1:13:28

of sperm function, such as movement, number

1:13:31

and proper shape. It can also return a false

1:13:33

negative, for example, indicating the sperm does not penetrate

1:13:36

the hamster egg when the sperm can in fact fertilize

1:13:38

a woman's egg. Mm.

1:13:41

So, okay.

1:13:42

I also enjoy that someone did this

1:13:45

and was like, this is it, guys. This

1:13:47

is what we're using. Did it work? I don't

1:13:50

know. Just keep using it. I got all these hamsters.

1:13:52

I don't know what to do with them.

1:13:54

Jenny, that is a superb science fact. Thank

1:13:56

you. Isn't it great? It's

1:13:58

really good. I love it. Thank you for that. Like,

1:14:01

I'm gonna be honest, when you said it at first and I

1:14:03

did some googling, I was not expecting it to be dead

1:14:06

on. I was expecting, like, some

1:14:09

kind of, like, slightly butchered version

1:14:11

of the truth and it's like, Ah, well actually, this is

1:14:13

what happened. Nope, nope, they just straight up put some

1:14:15

jizzles and maps directions. Yep. I've never

1:14:17

heard anything about that until this moment. Yep.

1:14:22

This is why we gotta eat the rich, just like

1:14:24

hamsters eat their children.

1:14:29

Good night everybody! Solved it, solved

1:14:31

it, solved science here. Go and

1:14:33

find, so go and find Janie

1:14:36

on all the online places. If you are in Vegas

1:14:38

the next couple of nights, we will still be at the Rio

1:14:40

at the Comedy Cellar. Um, assuming

1:14:43

the show doesn't get cancelled. Oh, you have to leave three

1:14:45

hours early to get here. Yeah. The

1:14:48

numbers have definitely been down this week on accounts

1:14:50

of all of the locals going, Fuck

1:14:52

that. Am I driving anywhere near the Formula

1:14:55

One? I can't believe they're willing to spend the money

1:14:57

on just giving you guys hotel rooms. Isn't every hotel

1:14:59

room like ten grand this weekend? It went

1:15:01

back down again. It went, they have,

1:15:04

they overestimated the popularity and...

1:15:06

Oh. Yeah. Some of the,

1:15:09

there were like some hotel suites that were going for a million

1:15:11

and they're now back to regular prices and the people

1:15:13

who paid a million for them are suing the hotel. Oh,

1:15:16

wow! Tonight, if you wanted to get

1:15:18

one, tonight, $36 Gold Coast Hotel. No

1:15:22

way. The Palm 76.

1:15:24

And the race is going on right now, so you'd be able to see the

1:15:26

race during that? No, you wouldn't see it from there. I think the, I

1:15:28

think the rooms that have

1:15:31

a view of the strip from the hotel

1:15:33

that are actually on the strip, I think those are still pretty

1:15:36

pricey. Yeah. Like the ones where you can

1:15:38

literally look out the window and see the race. I

1:15:40

think a pretty expensive book.

1:15:41

Oh, Bellagio is $1,900.

1:15:44

Okay.

1:15:46

Because you're right in front. But,

1:15:49

yeah, it's, it's come down. It's come down a lot. So

1:15:52

I don't think the Rio is losing out by giving us

1:15:54

a room. We wish all the casinos

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