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Probably Science. Hey

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everyone, welcome to Probably

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Science. I'm Matt Kirshin. I'm Jesse Case.

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Andy Wood here. Yay!

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Look at that. We got a… It is a

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returning guest. We've had Shane on before, right? I believe

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so, yes. Not when he's got

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a brand new special to promote. It's

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our friend Shane Torres. Hey

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guys, thanks for having me. How are you boys? Our

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friend and yours. You know Shane. Yeah,

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he was a beloved son of the

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Pacific Northwest. Yeah. No,

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I'm amazed at how like

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when I moved to the Northwest, that's where I met

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Andy and Shane. It's also where I met Matt. That

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was circumstantial at a comedy club there. I

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was always amazed. Circumstantial.

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You know what I mean? He wasn't living in the

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area. Harder

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dutching was by happenstance and nothing more ever

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came up. This is not a missable in

1:07

court. Jesse and I met, but it's not

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admissible in court. Yeah,

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it doesn't count. I object

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and I move to strike. Overruled.

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He will sit down. Defender.

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Oh, good southern judge. Oh,

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man. Defender.

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Defender is a bit more dramatic. I knew

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there was some weird way to refer to

1:30

a lawyer, but I think like counselor. You

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definitely ruined it in that second sentence just then,

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Andy. You can't, you got to stick

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to your guns. You can't go like, ah, I knew there

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was a word for that. One

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of my favorite things like

1:45

living back in the

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south, watching the local news. I mean, this

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happens everywhere, but it's brutal down here is

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like cop cop talk like

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when they're on the news. You know what I mean?

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Like we ascertained that the

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suspect was in. the domicile

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vehicle. Right and

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like and the angle is

2:05

always horrific there's like either a house or a

2:07

car wreck behind them but it's like like like

2:09

at 45 degrees but it's

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just someone struggling so hard to

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sound like they're not a moron.

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You know

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what I mean it's like being on a bad date or

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something like when yeah like like

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we used a chemical restraint on

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the juvenile canine like you mace the

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puppy just tell me you mace the puppy. I swear

2:30

they're about to start snapping like ah

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it's um the

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suspect. Yeah but

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what I was saying is when I when I moved to the

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bibliography fell a book. Right just say it

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like like they're dressing up you're dressing

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up war crimes with

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your whatever you know

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we administered an electrical

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current to the testes

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of the elderly man

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to restrain the suspect.

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He said something like he

3:08

won't be having any more

3:10

grandkids. Yeah I

3:13

know it's so when I moved to Seattle

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it was like 2008 or whatever so like

3:17

grunge had been over for 20 years.

3:21

15. You know I mean it had been

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over but then I noticed that

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the comedy scene was just still

3:27

grunge which I thought was amazing like everyone

3:29

else had moved on but like

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Shane I remember like we were all just like long

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hair guys in flannel like we're

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all grunge did this.

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What do you mean scenes and times change?

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I moved here from Texas. Yeah

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and I was like oh this is how it happens

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it's a grunge comedy scene for like a beautiful little

3:49

moment in time but I just remember that

3:51

was the style it was amazing you

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know. The individuals their sartorial

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choices included. That's

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all I got. I can't think of. Even

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sartorial is not the right, but you can

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get it. A rectangular pattern of interlaced colors.

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The suspect was wearing a hanging

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cap in which to hit REM sleep.

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He was holding a small wax fire

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in which to honk shoe, honk shoe,

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as he was haunted by three individuals.

4:28

Haunted the man in the night. Until

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he found the spirit of Christmas. Do

4:37

you think they speak like that because of

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anything can be admitted in court, even their arrest

4:41

records? I think it's pure intellectual insecurity. They

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don't have to. You

4:49

know what I mean? Like in court, you can

4:51

be like if you just cut to the chase.

4:54

Because they're going to cut through it anyway. The lawyer will

4:56

be like, oh, so you stabbed

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a guy with a butter knife because you

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were scared. He had a gun when

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he had a pizza. That's what happened. The

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administer had an Italian dish which

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could have been confused for a

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firearm in his... Shut

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the fuck up. Anyway. I do know civilians who

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use the word vehicle to the

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exclusion of, like they'll never say car. It's always vehicle.

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And I wonder what that is. I don't know if

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that's also trying to impress me or... What

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do they say? V-Hickel. I don't

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remember that. If it's V-Hickel, they're in cop zone.

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If you swallow the H shirt in civilian

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zone, kind of. Yeah, vehicle, sure. Yeah,

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Hickel also leads to, you know, hic

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if you hit it hard is rednecky.

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So that also works, yeah.

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What about July? What about July? Emphasis on the

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first syllable of the month that follows June. What

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does that mean? That one always wears me out.

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That's a very Southern... Yeah. That

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means you're suggesting to a

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gentleman of Swarthy complexion that he might want to

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move on. into a different

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town. I think that's

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the... I had to

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back in the drinking days, you know, I had

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to get a lawyer one time and it was

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just it just was foghorn, leghorn, this guy. And

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his office was just full

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of train stuff, like paintings of trains,

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you know. Why wouldn't it be? Yeah,

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and he talked exactly like that, you know.

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Well, as a civilian, the local, like, and

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it was, it was awful. I think like they,

6:29

like everything was worse because of that guy. Anyway,

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no big deal. Yeah,

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just like a tweed, like he's like

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chewing on a sugar cane, you know.

6:42

Well, so

6:46

you got corn cob pipes filled with

6:48

confederate money today. Some

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trouble with the law, I see. Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. I

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had to pay him a barrel of tobacco. So

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Shane, you're still doing comedy? You didn't, you didn't quit? What's

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going on? No. You've

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been recording stuff? What's going on, people? I've

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been, upon

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my, I was

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trying to do the cop speaking to explain

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your question, but I'm doing that. It's hard

7:22

to keep up once you get past the

7:24

five main words they use, right? Yeah,

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they just repeat them. They don't, they're not going to throw in new. Every

7:29

now and then the FBI gets involved and it's like a

7:31

guy that knows words will give a press conference and

7:34

it's, it's like, it's funny because you can see

7:36

the other cops, like, trying to, like, memorize the

7:39

words. Like,

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ah, shit, he's got good words. That's a good one. Or

7:46

that one. Oh, man. See why

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he's got some fucking local hump like me

7:50

dragging around? Listen to that, that guy just

7:52

whipped out evasive maneuver at the press conference,

7:54

making us look like assholes. He

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probably likes his kids. Man.

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Might even love them.

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So there's a special. I'm

8:07

bad at pivoting. No, you're

8:09

good at pivoting. I liked it. I

8:12

was on guard. Yeah,

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I just put it out. It came out on

8:17

December 10th on

8:20

YouTube on, and

8:22

Burt Kreischer produced it. We called it the Blue Eyed

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Mexican. So it's on my

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channel as well as his. Nice.

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Yeah, we taped it eight or nine

8:32

months ago. Now, who is that title about?

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I can't think of it. It seems random. It's

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Frida Kahlo, right? Yeah. Shane

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Torres, it seems random. It's

8:44

just a slur my principal called me in high

8:47

school. I was watching it last night. I

8:51

think she's Brown Knight. Oh. Yeah.

8:55

Yeah, and also the eyes

8:57

are not the first thing you're going to notice about Frida Kahlo.

8:59

The eyebrows, maybe. I

9:02

always wonder though, I've never seen a photo of her,

9:04

and I wonder if she just struggled with eyebrows. She

9:06

had two of them. You

9:09

know what I mean? Very bad

9:11

at painting. The drawing part of it. Yeah,

9:13

not the growing part. I

9:15

always wonder if even the whole Mona Lisa

9:17

mystery of Da Vinci just sucked at mouths.

9:21

It's just not great. I

9:24

just can't get it right. Smiling

9:26

frowning. I don't know. It's always the same

9:28

mouth. It doesn't, in fact. You just

9:30

tell me, like talking to his wife, they tell me I'm

9:33

a genius, but I feel like a fraud no matter what.

9:35

You're the only one. Norm

9:38

McDonald is the sketch artist who did

9:40

the Unabomber. Yeah, yeah. Every

9:43

suspect he does has- Yeah,

9:45

he's bad at hair and eyes. Right? But

9:48

then Gal and I have to do it. I

9:51

miss him. I

9:53

miss him so much. Yeah,

9:56

man, that one hurt. That one hurt.

9:58

But there are comics that are- still

10:01

there are comics that are still with us and they're very

10:03

funny some of them are blue-eyed Mexicans and

10:06

they got a special on YouTube. I was watching

10:11

it last night very funny. I totally

10:15

forgot about how

10:17

your COVID went down and good lord I

10:19

don't know if you want to watch on

10:21

the special or not. What's going on? I

10:26

went to Los Angeles like everyone else ready

10:29

to capture a dream. I had an

10:31

opportunity with a streamer and

10:34

then not only my like

10:36

I know a lot of people go to Los Angeles and their

10:38

world falls apart but the whole world

10:40

fell apart. Oh right.

10:44

And it was a true beating to

10:47

get the way I got it. I don't know

10:49

if I want to spoil it but there

10:52

was a home invasion. I

10:54

was homeless. Yeah. I lost

10:56

my dream and I

10:59

was afraid I was gonna die. I think

11:01

those are kind of the broad

11:04

strokes without giving away the bits.

11:06

Our mutual friend and friend of

11:08

the podcast Augie Smith. You

11:11

know what he... First comedy mentor. Yeah

11:14

when he was like in his

11:16

20s or something it's

11:18

so funny to me how things like weird stuff

11:20

will change the trajectory of not just your career

11:23

but your whole life. Like he moved to LA

11:25

and he's like you know young

11:27

hot he's got some heat you know he's down there

11:30

and his air conditioner went out in his car

11:32

and he couldn't like

11:34

a new like he didn't have the money to get it fixed

11:36

so it was just like it was too hot so he just

11:38

like went back to Portland. Just like

11:40

a coolant leak like altered his

11:48

whole life you know. It is

11:52

like what like sometimes

11:55

it's truly though like the greatest

11:57

fortitude sometimes is found over the

11:59

smallest. things like so I got

12:03

oh I think Augie I

12:06

mean it wasn't how long has he been in

12:10

Los Angeles now ten years probably born a ten

12:12

yeah ten or eleven yeah yeah I

12:14

think Augie gave me that car oh

12:17

wow yeah

12:19

I think I think he gave

12:22

me a forerunner helped

12:24

him move and yeah

12:27

and then it literally broke down three weeks

12:29

later when when did

12:31

you help him move and did you have to move that

12:33

giant photo they used to keep over their bed I

12:39

bet it's still there the first time it

12:42

was the most awkward like one of the most awkward

12:44

moments of my life when I was helping them not

12:47

move but move something like move a bookcase and

12:49

and we walk in and

12:51

I hadn't seen the photo and

12:53

I was just like Jesus never

12:57

mind never mind guys never mind

12:59

don't worry about I love not paying it off they're

13:03

like riding of like a Griffin or something

13:05

like that or no

13:07

this was just a very it was a very tasteful photo

13:09

of his now wife and and

13:11

I was like oh well I'm

13:14

not sure if I'm supposed to is this cool that

13:16

I'm here like and now I think it's

13:22

yeah it's both of them like with swords

13:24

on a Griffin or something it's like a

13:26

nice you know a tasteful 80s metal album

13:28

painting awesome yeah I uh well the

13:31

photos I remember of Augie helping him move were

13:33

ones with him with hair and they were headshots

13:35

and it was almost as like should I be

13:37

seen this as yours oh yeah

13:40

yeah yeah oh

13:42

man it was bizarre like short and had like

13:44

a sweater bit like kind of like one of

13:46

those sweaters that like doesn't have sleeves you know

13:48

like you would wear like a white t-shirt underneath

13:50

it it was bananas

13:52

to see yeah that

13:55

guy I just I hadn't heard that story about

13:57

the air conditioning it's like what's the opposite of

13:59

Lewis and Clark. Did you know what

14:01

our ancestors did to cross the... I

14:03

don't know, the car's a little warm.

14:06

If the goal of the Pacific Passage

14:08

was just to tell some dick jokes,

14:10

they would have turned

14:19

around all the time. I'm sure

14:22

Augie would have stuck it out

14:24

to discover new lands. No. Sure.

14:27

Yeah, he could have told fart

14:29

jokes on the other side of

14:31

the Cascade Mountain River. That

14:34

had to suck so much to

14:36

see the Rockies going

14:40

west. I can't

14:42

even imagine. I've never been that bummed out of like,

14:44

you're just like the ocean, I can feel it. Fuck!

14:48

Like, Lewis, you fucked us again!

14:50

You fucked us right in the

14:52

ass! But this country keeps going.

14:54

Like, this is unreal. Go

14:59

north, he said. Also,

15:01

if you were just told it in

15:03

advance, the Rockies doesn't

15:05

quite do justice to the

15:07

fuck off massive mountains. Just

15:09

gotta get over

15:11

some Rockies. Oh, right,

15:14

right. Yeah, it sounds like sort

15:16

of a tummy ache kind of

15:18

thing. Sorry guys,

15:20

we're gonna have to spend half a

15:23

day scrambling over these Rockies that I've

15:25

heard about. Right, right. You might

15:27

get a pebble in your shoe, so

15:29

everybody makes sure your laces are tight. And

15:32

some of this foreboding sign that says,

15:34

beyond these peaks lie nothing but one-nighters.

15:37

Oh, god. Yeah, I love that.

15:44

How much do Lewis and Clark and Harold and

15:47

Lloyd from Dumb and Dumber actually have in common?

15:50

It feels like a Vulture

15:52

article or something. Oh, yeah,

15:54

yeah. Actually, that's a great idea

15:57

just to do a historical fiction

15:59

making real figures idiots

16:01

is someone done well there was a

16:04

what was the one it was chris farley's

16:07

last film he was got the west or

16:09

wagons east go west well no no

16:12

wagons wagons he's a jock handy oh

16:14

okay it was Matthew

16:17

Perry and Chris Farley and they were

16:19

not real

16:22

historical figures but they were competing with Lewis

16:24

and Clark they were like the other two

16:26

explorers almost heroes almost heroes there you go

16:30

and it was just like incompetent explorers

16:33

you know yeah yeah

16:37

and that was that was it you know yeah

16:39

I love that I don't know

16:41

why this reminds me of that but speaking of incompetence

16:44

just random thing did I already talk about the movie

16:46

no hard feelings on here oh yeah

16:49

I still haven't

16:52

seen it but I know I'm hearing you and others that it's very

16:54

good I love it and I hope

16:56

it heralds a return to just like idiot

16:59

comedy idiot protagonists yeah like especially it's the

17:01

fact that it's a woman and an Oscar

17:03

and an actress I think is so great

17:05

because I think for a while we were

17:07

like pigeonholing women and like

17:09

they could only be strong and brave is like

17:11

no women should be allowed to be funny and

17:13

dumb and like flawed and yeah no one of

17:15

those things one or two of those that no

17:18

I think what I'm saying like like when you

17:23

have a character views one-dimensional hero

17:25

like no one wants to watch

17:27

a flawless character like

17:29

Jennifer Lawrence is it's

17:31

the funniest it's like a 80s sex comedy that

17:33

just came out this year it's the funniest film

17:36

comedy I gotta check that out yeah we do need

17:38

a really good we do need a return

17:42

to like because it's

17:44

it's something I think about all the

17:46

time is and you know he's polarizing

17:48

people hate him people love him whatever but like

17:51

like Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant like

17:53

changed comedy like they changed the face

17:56

of it yeah like even commercials are

17:58

all every like sort of

18:00

of funny commercial you see is like

18:02

an awkward exchange like with yeah

18:05

like you know it's it's everything subdued

18:07

and someone looks at the camera that's

18:09

in on it and everything's the office

18:11

and it's like that

18:14

killed the sort of like

18:16

Billy Madison happy Gilmore right

18:18

just like insane like yeah

18:21

over the top fucking crazy comedy and

18:23

I really like you sit on fire

18:25

in movies pretty quickly yeah yeah and

18:27

I I really want to see a

18:29

return to that like just psycho yeah

18:31

I heard

18:34

someone say they were they were like in a

18:36

meeting with somebody from some streamer or something and

18:38

they they said what they're looking for right now

18:40

are comedy comedies and like well yeah you guys

18:42

should have been looking for that the whole time

18:44

but like yeah good to hear it's a little

18:47

like well thanks for coming

18:49

back around yeah now that you put in

18:51

yet another pitch for we mentioned it a

18:53

lot when he was on the show but

18:55

Dave Foley's the wrong guy which oh my

18:57

god very funny a tight 90 minutes

19:00

almost dead on of just dumb

19:03

funny scenes let me ask you this has

19:05

Jennifer Lawrence been in a spaceship in a

19:07

film because if so passengers there

19:09

you go she's got a spat okay oh

19:12

we have mentioned we have a

19:15

couple of emails about this as well

19:17

okay let's say let's explain real quick

19:19

to Shane yes we gain a

19:21

spat is an actor actress an acting

19:24

person and they have

19:26

to it's an acronym spats in

19:29

in film in films they've

19:32

they it's kind of like an EGOT they

19:34

have had to have been on a spaceship

19:37

right a plane

19:40

an automobile a train

19:43

and a ship like a sailing vessel yes

19:46

okay the sea going vessel yeah

19:48

not in all the same

19:50

film yeah but that's the

19:52

spats so we have

19:54

had a couple of emails in they

19:57

ship plane automobile train and then

19:59

a boat like a boat Yeah, yeah,

20:01

so I'm

20:04

annoyed that I suddenly talk about Pierce Brosnan

20:07

Yeah, we I was

20:09

like, oh, yeah, but he wasn't a moon reaker

20:11

So he wouldn't count from that but then it

20:13

failed to think about Roger Moore who?

20:17

Was in moon reaker? right,

20:19

right also James ones and so at

20:22

Adam Miller writes in to say Roger

20:24

Moore qualifies for spats just as James

20:26

Bond and almost qualifies in moon reaker

20:28

alone Where he starts off jumping

20:30

out of a small plane rides in a gondola

20:32

in Venice Which turns into hovercraft hit that he

20:35

drives he rolls in a rock rolls in Rio

20:37

and flies a space shuttle And

20:39

then also that movie includes a cable car ambulance

20:41

helicopter and a speedboat that turns into a hang

20:43

glider But there is no train, but there is

20:45

a train in live and let die And

20:48

Connery gets close as bond for days. He's around the

20:50

launch of a spacecraft in you only live twice, but

20:53

he isn't aboard So

20:55

there's there's a solid spats

20:57

thing and then yeah, I feel spatter

21:00

in the face yeah, and then this

21:02

is a Rachel Carter comes in with

21:05

Another single franchise spats thing Ian's

21:08

earring in shark nano Whoa,

21:11

okay who mentions who

21:14

says the first American James Bond? Hey,

21:18

I didn't realize we were talking about proper films.

21:20

Well, yeah Apparently they went

21:23

to space in shark nato 3 and in

21:25

case anyone is not familiar with a franchise

21:28

Rachel has actually included YouTube links to

21:30

every clip from the spats Shark

21:34

nato 3 a plane shot data to

21:36

an automobile in one a train in

21:38

two and a ship in four I'm

21:42

surprised that You have to

21:44

wait till four to get to a ship to have a shark

21:46

base from who pee. I don't know maybe there other Anyway

21:51

Shark nato Matt. So

21:53

the sharks that they're coming. Oh, yeah.

21:55

Yeah point good point. Yeah,

21:57

so I guess he's online Yeah, and then And

22:00

then has suggested and also this I mentioned this

22:03

because this was one of the vehicles that Adam

22:05

mentioned in his previous email She

22:08

suggested making it spats to add

22:10

a helicopter which shock NATO five

22:12

qualifies for oh wow Spats

22:16

now that is a that is a more

22:18

tricky. I don't know You

22:20

guys have for your fans no no there's no

22:22

I mean if we were a better podcast it

22:24

would be yeah Yeah, no we we sell spats

22:28

No one wears them anymore, but we We

22:32

just have a side business selling shoe

22:35

covers who do you think? Spats

22:38

the most out of

22:41

any actor. It's gonna be like probably

22:44

Tom Hanks or Tom Cruise probably one that's

22:46

what I would say part of the

22:48

Tom Tom Club I don't know

22:50

cruise has been in space that many times Yeah,

22:53

either Tom Cruise

22:56

is base surely he's I mean even

22:58

in the last even in the

23:00

last What where he

23:02

plays a maverick it counts he

23:04

was he was hitting zero G. Oh Also

23:07

in oblivion duh oblivion there

23:09

you go But

23:11

I was watching taking the

23:13

last samurai Yep,

23:16

obviously obviously he

23:19

has got an upcoming space movie

23:21

as yet unproduced Yeah,

23:23

so I was Not

23:26

gonna rolling stone saying Tom Cruise might actually

23:28

go to space Oh

23:30

sure I remember that Caught

23:35

but we've discounted good for him He

23:39

just refuses to be hemmed in anyway

23:42

We discounted I think because we all want to

23:44

forget them the Star Wars prequels so that gives

23:47

us Liam Neeson Shirley

23:49

Natalie Portman because she's she's

23:51

Shirley if she's been on a train at some point

23:53

she's in there Oh, yeah,

23:55

well Harrison Ford must be in Harrison Ford

23:57

a million times. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think

23:59

we It might be at the end of, I

24:02

don't think there's going to be any future

24:04

James Bond spatsing. Now that

24:06

James Bond is less comical

24:08

and more, I feel

24:11

like Bond from here on out is a Bond

24:13

we want to see doing real world things, which

24:15

could include space travel. I don't know, just space

24:17

travel with Bond always seems like it's going to

24:19

happen for a comical reason. No, I

24:21

think we'll get back to it. I think

24:24

the whole, it's like the direction Christopher Nolan

24:26

took Batman, and it's going to

24:28

return to the cheese. It

24:30

has to. Okay. Yeah, there's

24:34

like, yeah, I can see like they're

24:36

still having some gadgetry, but they have kind

24:38

of like, for lack of a better word, like, you

24:41

know, like American actionized these movies

24:43

a bit like, like Daniel Craig was like

24:45

a brute in these movies. Yeah, I

24:47

think the Bond movies kind of pushed it in a

24:49

bit of a direction as well. Like the fact that

24:52

that was a big success and they're like, all right, it

24:54

can't be quite as campy now. Yeah,

24:56

but people are going to get sick of

24:58

just like sad dudes that are good at

25:01

karate. Right. Yeah. People are

25:03

going to want some space cheese. I hope

25:05

not. That's what I need. You know what

25:07

goes with some space cheese, guys? What

25:10

goes with space cheese, Andy? Space tomato.

25:13

What are you talking about? Are you having a

25:15

little space caprizy? Yeah, exactly. You

25:17

just need some what, basil

25:20

and some balsamic? Yeah, it

25:22

turns out that the International Space Station astronauts have

25:25

found a thing that tomato that was lost in

25:27

space for eight months. Do you guys know this?

25:29

Yeah, a couple of people sent this in. Justin

25:31

Broad and Michael Ballina both sent this in. This

25:33

is from space.com. So we know it's

25:35

real because they got the thing of the year. Oh

25:38

my. You mean to tell me they

25:41

can't find other civilizations in space, but

25:43

they found a single tomato. They found

25:45

the missing tomato. Yeah, yeah. Now,

25:48

this tomato presumably was already, it was

25:51

just missing inside of a structure. It

25:53

wasn't just a free-floating tomato

25:55

in space that they saw go by. It

25:57

wasn't discovered in space. This wasn't the umaguma of

26:00

tomatoes or whatever that flying toothpick was

26:02

that came through our system.

26:06

No, this is the remains of a tiny

26:08

tomato lost by NASA astronaut Frank Rubio after

26:10

an off-Earth harvest in March finally showed up

26:12

on the ISS more than eight months later.

26:15

Our good friend Frank Rubio, who headed home already, has

26:17

been blamed for quite a while for

26:20

eating the tomato, but we can

26:22

exonerate him. We found the tomato.

26:24

NASA astronaut Jasmine Mogg-Belly said

26:27

during a livestreamed event on Wednesday, December

26:29

6th, celebrated the ISS' 25th anniversary. Whoa,

26:33

happy birthday. The minor incident turned into

26:35

a large inside joke for Rubio in the fall. The

26:37

one-inch-wide Red Robin dwarf tomato was a

26:40

part of the final harvest for the

26:42

VEG-5 experiment that

26:44

Rubio himself had tended through some growing

26:46

pains. Each ISS

26:48

astronaut received samples of the tomatoes after the March

26:51

29th, 2023 harvest, but

26:53

Rubio's share, stored in a Ziploc bag, floated away before

26:55

he could take a bite. The missing

26:57

tomato was first discussed publicly on September 13th when Rubio

26:59

had his own... I'll never forget

27:02

when they went public with the tomatoes. I remember

27:04

where I was, walking my kids to

27:06

school. We

27:10

all do, yeah. It was

27:12

an inside job is what I think. When

27:17

Rubio had his own event in space marking

27:19

an unexpected record year in orbit for a

27:21

U.S. astronaut, why was it an

27:23

unexpected record year? Oh, the

27:25

problems with Rubio's Russian. The Soyuz spacecraft,

27:27

which were eventually resolved with the launch

27:29

of a replacement Soyuz, doubled his expected

27:31

six months' stay. Asked and answered,

27:33

Andy, I spent so many hours looking

27:35

for that thing, Rubio joked, during the ISS livestream. I'm

27:39

sure the desiccated tomato will show up at some point

27:41

and vindicate me years in the future. To

27:43

be fair to Rubio, the ISS is larger than a

27:46

six-bedroom house. I didn't know that. And

27:48

in microgravity, things could easily float away to

27:50

unexpected corners. NASA's procedure is

27:52

usually to check vent intakes, but in the

27:54

station, crowded with 25 years of stuff,

27:57

it's easy to lose track of individual items. so

28:00

the Tomatoes search did not unduly occupy

28:02

his time as Rubio's Soyuz crew performed

28:04

hundreds of other science experiments despite the

28:06

stress and the delay. If

28:08

anything, the situation may show more about how to

28:10

deal with the unexpected when growing plants on the

28:12

moon or Mars, which the Veggie

28:15

series of experiments eventually aims to achieve. So

28:17

reporters asked him about the lost tomato on

28:20

October 13th, about two weeks after he safely returned

28:22

home with his delayed crew. He

28:25

lamented that tomato never came to light despite

28:27

18 to 20 hours of my own time

28:29

looking for that. Rubio may

28:31

have exaggerated the time spent for humor. Without

28:34

the problem, you know, the humidity up there is like 17%. It's

28:36

probably desiccated to the point where you couldn't tell what it

28:39

was and someone just threw away the bag. Hopefully

28:42

we'll find it someday, a little shriveled thing. While

28:45

the tomato was a light part of Rubio's mission, not

28:47

all of it was so easy. During the same October

28:49

event, Rubio spoke about how difficult it was to stay

28:51

away from his wife, children, blah, blah, blah. He

28:56

said if he'd known it was gonna be a year, he wouldn't have asked for the

28:58

mission. But as Rubio took some time

29:00

in space to absorb the news of the delay, his

29:02

connections offered unconditional help for him

29:04

and his family. Let's

29:07

go back to the tomato. I wanna see, did they not say

29:09

where they found it? Can we

29:11

also talk about how

29:14

bored they must be in space if they're

29:16

in an interview and they're like, well, Bill

29:19

lost a tomato. That's kind of a big

29:21

thing right now. Comes like the inside joke

29:23

for the whole year. That's the one story.

29:25

Yeah, so what are the moon race lost,

29:27

its enthusiasm after a bit? Just in the

29:29

background of the livestream, there's

29:32

clearly just like an alien hanging out in there.

29:35

It's like such a Simpsons joke. In

29:42

Rod we trust. So

29:45

yeah, I guess they found it, but we don't get to see a

29:47

picture of it, nor do we find out where they found it on

29:50

the ISS. But

29:52

it has been found, so. We'll go space tomato

29:54

and just see what comes up. Yeah.

29:59

So the tomato is. a fifth of its way

30:01

to getting its spats if somebody can yes

30:03

yes take it for a little oh

30:10

there's an insane amount of coverage on

30:12

this is there if you look

30:14

up space tomato yeah Google space tomato

30:16

there's like 10 articles that pop

30:18

right up and it's all like the New

30:21

York Times and then like yeah

30:23

good for these guys name cleared

30:26

okay this tomato is the

30:28

fun yeah man tomato is the

30:30

face dog 420 of of

30:33

2023 some of this is

30:35

brutal if if you so if

30:38

you Google space tomato and then click on

30:40

images there's all

30:42

this like AI art that people have used

30:44

for these articles and

30:46

some of them are like they're insane like I

30:48

don't know what prompts these oh

30:51

put in but like

30:53

a bunch of astronauts like staring at

30:55

a giant tomato it's weird I'm

30:58

not getting the same okay wait

31:00

I guess this one does

31:02

look like a picture of

31:04

Joe Pesci on a rocket

31:06

ship no these all look

31:08

like yellow

31:11

album covers or

31:14

something space tomato

31:16

was the alternate title

31:18

for my special the blue-eyed Mexican

31:20

oh yeah yes yes different

31:23

nickname different time I

31:32

I was looking at science alert because that's

31:34

normally good for stories and and

31:36

I was looking at a different story but then

31:38

I couldn't resist this link to thing I

31:42

mean this is it's scientific enough

31:44

and while we are talking about things that get

31:46

lost or things that shouldn't maybe shouldn't be taken

31:48

into certain environments I've

31:50

had an MRI scan before in fact I had one for the

31:53

show or if you remember back yeah

31:55

did a fMRI study related to

31:57

brain creation of humor if you

31:59

go back in the archives. But

32:03

they're very, very conscious of you not

32:06

taking any metal into the MRI because

32:08

it turns into a giant massive

32:11

magnet. So you've got to take

32:14

off any any jewellery, you know, any metal

32:16

parts inside you, you know, anything like that

32:18

that you know, you go through this very

32:20

thorough checklist.

32:22

So I'm not entirely sure

32:25

how a woman in Wisconsin,

32:27

a 57 year old woman, thought

32:30

it was a good idea to go in with a

32:32

concealed gun. Oh my

32:35

God. But

32:37

then fired, unsurprisingly,

32:40

when it was in there.

32:42

Oh, or, oh. Luckily

32:44

only got away with minor

32:47

injuries consisting of clean entry and

32:49

exit wounds through suctioned cutaneous tissue.

32:53

But yeah, don't take a

32:55

loaded gun into an MRI scanner.

32:58

I mean, or do but at least get

33:00

like super high speed, slow mo footage of

33:02

what happens because I'm fascinated.

33:04

Yeah. I mean, even a

33:06

bullet separate from a gun is a

33:09

bad idea. There's a person that really

33:11

deserve health care. I would

33:15

have assumed they would not just trust you to be

33:18

like, just you have to tell us,

33:20

I would assume they also have you walk

33:22

through a metal detector. You

33:24

could just yeah, they don't do that. But oh my

33:26

God. But

33:28

also, normally if you go

33:30

into an MRI, you let you get

33:33

changed into like you're in a hospital gown and stuff. Right. Yeah.

33:36

There's not many places you would

33:38

normally have metal concealed

33:40

on you know, they go through all the normal like, do

33:42

you have any piercings? Do you have any? Are

33:44

you wearing jewelry? Take off your watch, take off

33:46

your earrings, like anything like that. And the

33:49

article offers no details on that part of it.

33:51

So I don't Yeah.

33:54

Also no pictures, no pictures.

33:59

But also it's in this article a

34:01

shockingly similar incident took

34:03

place in Brazil a few months prior which was

34:06

a fatal incident where his

34:09

own gun fired in close proximity to an

34:11

active MRI scanner. I don't know whether he

34:13

actually was being scanned though. Maybe

34:16

it was one of those 3D printer guns.

34:19

Oh. Maybe the bullet was just

34:21

like, because they're made of carbonite or plastic

34:23

or whatever you know. She's

34:25

Malkoviching it in line of fire. Yeah,

34:28

she just thought, oh well it's just a bullet, it's not

34:30

that much metal. And then, you

34:33

know, she did it. So

34:36

the Brazilian guy was a 40

34:38

year old lawyer and vocal supporter

34:40

of gun ownership who was accompanying

34:42

his mother into the scanning room and retained the

34:45

weapon in spite of verbal and risk and request

34:47

to remove all metal objects prior to accompanying her.

34:50

Of course he's a vocal proponent of guns.

34:52

I'm sure she is. Yeah. You

34:55

know, like, it's just like, yeah man, it wouldn't be

34:57

so hard for you if you

34:59

weren't the

35:02

ones speaking on this stuff. Like,

35:05

like, this is the,

35:08

oh, fuck these people. So

35:10

dumb. By the way,

35:12

the woman who survived in this story, Forrest

35:14

Gump style, she was shot in the buttocks.

35:17

In the, like, buttock area.

35:21

It's the best place to get shot. Yeah,

35:24

it is. It

35:26

would be really funny. She was examined by a physician

35:28

at the site. Yeah, both best place

35:30

on the body and best place in general in that

35:32

she was in a hospital. So a

35:35

doctor right there examined the, according

35:37

to the FDA report, examined the

35:39

entry and exit holes as very

35:41

small and superficial, only penetrating the

35:43

subcutaneous tissue. Per protocol, the patient

35:45

was taken to the hospital and the patient later reformed

35:47

that they

35:50

were okay and healing well. The

35:52

site reported that prior to the exam, the

35:54

patient had undergone a standard screening procedure for

35:57

ferrous objects, which includes weapons specifically and answered

35:59

no to all screening questions. God,

36:04

fuck her. It

36:06

would be funny though if they found a missing gun on

36:09

the space station. We

36:11

found that gun. You

36:14

know? Like

36:17

a space gun for aliens? Nah, just kind of a

36:19

snub nose 9 mil. It's

36:21

kind of a girl gun if I'm being honest.

36:23

If I'm being honest, first guns from the 30s?

36:29

It's got one of those wheels that turn around. It's like

36:31

the kind of Danny Glover used in Lethal Weapon. It's not

36:33

like sexy but it's like... Have you ever

36:35

seen Predator 2? You know at the end of Predator

36:37

2? My

36:46

dad, when I lived in

36:49

LA and my

36:51

dad visited me, like, so

36:54

that's something is like, you know, like when you

36:56

live out there, people will visit and normally they

36:58

want to see like all the sights, you know,

37:02

like you can go see the Plantation House, Terra,

37:04

or like you see Wizard of Oz stuff, or

37:06

whatever, you know. You're in

37:08

Los Angeles, you're in Hollywood, it's crazy. And

37:10

my dad was just, the whole city

37:12

was the set of Predator 2 for

37:14

him. Amazed,

37:17

you know, everywhere. He's like, look

37:19

at that man, they might have, right there, the Predator might have jumped over

37:21

that. You know, in the movie. And

37:26

then the other thing was the 24-7... Man,

37:28

our parents would have gotten along, our parents would

37:30

have gotten along, right? The other thing that blew

37:32

his mind was the 24-7 Home Depot. He

37:37

was like, that was way cooler to him. You

37:39

know what I mean? Like way cooler

37:41

than anything. At

37:44

least you know your father is exactly who he is,

37:46

because so many people move to LA and they change,

37:48

or they spend time there, they change. Your dad is

37:50

himself to the core. He is, he is. Like,

37:55

you know, like George Clooney is walking by us,

37:58

and my dad's just like, that whole place... depot

38:00

is it 24 7 3 in the

38:02

morning and you need you

38:05

need some grout it's amazing hey

38:07

George hey George you want some toggle

38:09

bolts because anytime you want it you

38:11

can be two in the morning you

38:13

need to toggle something it doesn't matter

38:15

yes perfect yeah yeah

38:18

yeah just anytime you're watching the Oscars

38:20

you like everyone on that stage could

38:22

buy a screwdriver at any time they

38:26

could get wood-sized well

38:32

she might not have an Oscar but she can have

38:34

some particle board within 15 minutes so you

38:37

know cheer up yeah

38:42

any kind of tape I need is

38:44

available to me at any given moment

38:46

blue is mind like when I lived

38:49

in Seattle and he visited the thing

38:51

that he was blown away by was the height of the

38:53

curbs like he was just like

38:55

I don't know he

38:57

went to a hardware store to buy a tape measurer

38:59

to measure the curbs why I've

39:01

never seen that you know and there's yeah

39:08

Eddie better free show you know

39:10

well it rains a lot so

39:13

maybe it helps prevent flooding or

39:15

something yeah yep there you go

39:17

easy answers yeah

39:19

oh anyway man predator to

39:21

gun that's right yeah yeah

39:23

what are we all talking

39:25

about height you know

39:28

what's even higher than a high curve what's

39:30

what's what's that a

39:32

rogue wave a real way

39:35

yeah these I still find these really

39:37

fascinating also because they were not

39:40

believed for a long time you

39:44

know they were they were things that sailors would

39:46

talk about like a woman's orgasm

39:48

right yeah exactly yeah there's nothing in

39:51

our calculations that proves that either of

39:53

these things could exist yeah

39:57

cuz cuz they they thought it Sort

40:00

of mathematically couldn't happen, you

40:02

know in their various models, but yeah, they've since

40:05

You know come up with new sort of new

40:08

models that do explain the possibility of rogue

40:10

waves and the highest one ever

40:13

recorded Was

40:15

in has has been confirmed

40:17

as having happened in February 2022 from

40:20

a Lonesome

40:23

boy that off the coast of British

40:25

Columbia So

40:27

not that far from where you guys all used to live And

40:31

it's seventeen point six meters high. That's 58

40:33

feet Which

40:36

you know there have been bigger waves,

40:38

but they were like breaking in shallow

40:40

water So this is just and also

40:42

like in the rhythm. They're they're accustomed

40:45

like right. This is just the fact

40:47

that it's anomalous and not Breaking

40:50

water. It's just water. It's shallower story wall

40:52

of water that just comes out of nowhere

40:55

In the ocean with just suddenly just this if

40:57

you it's gotta be the same exact feeling somebody

40:59

had on 9-11 when they were in The towers

41:01

they're like, oh really this is how I'm gonna

41:03

go like I would be Yeah,

41:08

so yeah, it says this only happens once every

41:10

13 hundred years, that's how

41:12

do they get that number I and

41:15

I also Don't think that's true There's

41:19

gotta be it has to happen more than if

41:21

it happened once every thirteen hundred years I'm too dumb

41:23

to know about something that happens that infrequently Well,

41:29

this is imagine being the

41:31

whale under the water they're just like farted, you

41:33

know, he's like I

41:38

just gotta lose some goddamn weight Study

41:42

in this now. Fuck you guys.

41:45

Hey pull my fit It

41:49

just and then it just falls onto

41:51

the coral reef Chris Farley style Wave

41:59

more than So any wave more than twice the

42:01

height of the wave surrounding it. So

42:03

the the Duropner wave,

42:05

which was the first one that was

42:07

recorded, which struck an oil drilling platform

42:09

near Norway, was 25.6 meters

42:12

tall while its neighbors were only 12 meters. Now,

42:18

this Euclid wave was nearly three times the

42:20

size of its piers. Proportionately, it

42:22

was likely the most extreme rogue wave

42:24

ever recorded, says physicist Johannes Gimmrik from

42:26

the University of Victoria. Only

42:28

a few rogue waves in high sea states

42:30

have been observed directly in nothing of this

42:32

magnitude. So researchers are still

42:34

trying to figure out how they are formed so

42:37

they can better predict when they arrive. This includes

42:39

measuring rogue waves in real time and

42:41

also running models in the way they get whipped up by

42:43

the wind. The buoy

42:45

that picked up the

42:47

Euclid wave was placed offshore along with dozens

42:49

of others by this research institute called

42:51

Marine Labs in an attempt to learn

42:53

more about hazards out in the deep. Even

42:57

when they occur far offshore, they can still destroy

42:59

marine operations, wind farms or oil rigs, and they

43:01

can even put the lives of beachgoers at risk

43:03

if they are big enough. None

43:07

of these, neither of those two took

43:10

any lives or caused severe damage, but others

43:12

have. Some ships that went missing in

43:14

the 70s, for example, are now thought to have been

43:16

sunk by sudden looming waves. The

43:18

leftover floating wreckage looks like the work of an

43:21

immense white cap. And apparently wave

43:23

heights are going to increase with climate change according to a 2020

43:25

study, so it might not hold its record

43:27

for as long as our current predictions suggest.

43:30

Awesome. Awesome. Yeah.

43:33

I can't imagine these making

43:35

it all the way to the shore because, like,

43:37

you know, tsunamis are

43:39

dangerous not because of the amplitude,

43:42

but the period, which

43:44

makes sense that that energy can be kept

43:47

for a long... If you've

43:49

got a wave that's two miles

43:51

wide... Right. That's...we've talked about this

43:53

before, like, how tsunamis are

43:56

not how I first pictured them when I heard

43:58

about them. It's not like a massive crashing... It's

44:01

not like a sort of surfing wave, but

44:03

ten times as big is actually right ten

44:05

times as long It's like it might only

44:07

be ten twelve. Yeah. Yeah,

44:09

it's exactly it's the it's it's the yeah the

44:11

sort of width of the wave and it just

44:13

looks like It's being

44:15

described as a little bit like just pouring a

44:17

soda bottle on on a on a table where

44:20

it just sort of just Spreads, but then just

44:22

keeps for it. It just keeps coming. Yeah It's

44:24

it's yeah, it's gonna bear hugs the shoreline essentially.

44:26

Yeah. Yeah, it's not the size. It is the

44:28

motion of the ocean Yeah,

44:32

as we all know Most you

44:34

know little poems about dicks can be

44:37

applied to fluid dynamics. I find it's

44:39

true The

44:41

angle the dangle is inversely

44:44

proportional We did find

44:46

out they're all those are like brilliant math

44:48

formulas like in Newton's

44:51

fourth law, right? the

44:53

angle of the Angle

44:55

of the key to saving the earth is

44:57

just scrawled into a bathroom stall somewhere

44:59

and like in Chattanooga Right,

45:01

right bar. No aliens

45:03

are about to destroy us all and someone holds up the

45:05

middle school s They

45:08

all bow like It

45:10

just says boobs on a calculator and they just

45:12

their their lights go away and they And

45:15

they bleed like 2001. They're all just

45:17

monkeys are just yeah. Yeah What

45:21

is the rest of the angle the dangle thing

45:23

I think he to the meat

45:25

what's how does it go? Hold

45:33

on a second. Hold on a second. I gotta give you all this

45:45

The angle the dangle is usually proportional to the heat

45:47

of the meat. Yeah. Yeah You

45:52

look so good in that dress tonight, I want you to feel

45:54

the heat of my meat Oh

46:00

man. Yeah,

46:03

I've just googled penis

46:05

poems, but I

46:08

don't know what to call it, right? Like I don't

46:10

know what we would call these penis... Oh,

46:13

it's actually called a Cox on it. Okay,

46:16

okay, yeah. Cox

46:18

on it, yeah, because these are just

46:21

like weird sort of books, poetry of

46:23

the penis. I'm

46:26

seeing them called Chode Odes, anybody

46:28

else? Yeah. Are any

46:30

of them gonna need limo pricks? Uh... How

46:34

many female subscribers did we just lose in

46:36

the last 90 seconds? Oh,

46:39

yeah. Yeah. Oh.

46:43

Uh... Uh...

46:47

You know what could get them back? Did you guys hear...

46:49

Oh, those... I

46:51

just want all the listeners to know that

46:53

those resigned sides we did are as we

46:55

were all trying to think of more... Yeah,

46:57

oh, totally. I was like, uh... Yeah,

47:00

I was thinking something like Stan's... I am a

47:02

pain-cam-eter. Yeah, I was thinking something like Stan's Hands-A.

47:04

I couldn't get it together in time. Yeah,

47:07

haiku wasn't working for me. I

47:11

am Dick... Whatever. I

47:14

am Dick-Pit-A-Meter. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, there you

47:16

go. Yeah, there you go. Yeah.

47:19

Chode... Well...

47:22

Why did Chode Odes? Emily Dickinson. Yeah,

47:25

oh, yeah, yeah. There you go. Well,

47:27

there the whole time. Yep. Oh,

47:30

I'm just... I'm drifting. So, let me tell you

47:32

guys something really quick. Uh,

47:34

well, we'll add... Um...

47:37

Ballad. We're really... We're really

47:39

scraping the barrel now. Speaking

47:41

of global warming, and speaking of

47:44

stuff we might talk about in

47:46

a second, Nashville just

47:48

had some insane tornadoes right here.

47:50

Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah, I

47:52

thought about you when that was happening. I

47:54

figured it wasn't that near you, but... It

47:57

was like just... I

48:00

was at my parents' place at the time,

48:02

so it's safely like 30 miles

48:04

south. Now,

48:06

of course, with these things, until it

48:08

actually like rolls through, you can't... It's

48:11

not like a hurricane. You can't say like it'll be on

48:13

this street. Yeah, there's no... There's time. There's

48:16

time. So... They're erratic and

48:18

shit. Yeah, so I was in the risk range, right? Like

48:21

I was in that... How far from a hurricane... Sorry, from

48:23

a tornado rather, do you...

48:26

Let's say a tornado passes like half a mile

48:28

from you. Do you still... I

48:31

can... Like, is it... I've

48:33

been in a... Yeah, I've

48:35

been in a... I know like... A

48:38

half mile away is very, very close. Like

48:40

you... Depending on the severity

48:42

of the tornado, you would absolutely like lose shingles

48:44

and like that's close. Okay.

48:46

I... You hear it, the air

48:48

pressure would change. It'd be terrifying. Can

48:51

I share a quick story? Sure. Is

48:53

it fun? Yeah. I...

48:57

In high school, one of my jobs by last year was

48:59

to clean a post office and

49:02

a tornado was coming through downtown Fort Worth

49:05

or towards it, you know, like you said, Jesse, you don't

49:07

know where they go. And it... The

49:12

post office I was cleaning was just outside of

49:14

downtown. And it came... Like,

49:17

I had to hide in the parcel cage because

49:20

of falling debris and stuff in

49:22

the post office. And I went outside

49:25

and there was a Sherman Williams paint building

49:27

across the street before and then it was

49:29

just completely... It was gone. Like... Gone

49:32

completely. Yeah. Like, and

49:34

the roof, half of the roof was off of the post office. It

49:36

was like... Yeah. It was

49:38

very, very close. Yeah. These

49:40

came in at F2 and F3, the

49:42

ones that just went through Middle Tennessee.

49:46

And it's interesting too because radar has

49:48

gotten so good that they can tell

49:51

how high the debris cloud is. So

49:53

you can sort of... Because

49:55

that rating is given after,

49:58

right? Like they do surveys. to figure out

50:00

the strength. Do

50:03

they put those balls up there that like Philip

50:05

Seymour Hoffman wants them to get into the field?

50:08

No, they don't do that. There's no bad guys in the black truck. Everyone's kind

50:10

of on the same team. They

50:12

are remaking that right now. My friend is filming it.

50:15

What? Oh my God.

50:17

I think they already remade it

50:19

with sharks apparently and good luck.

50:22

I'm fine with it if I'm being 100% honest. I can't

50:24

wait to see it. Who

50:27

cares? Go ahead Andy, get it out. I

50:29

don't talk to you that much recently. God! Judge

50:32

me! Whatever I hated about that movie 25

50:34

years ago has now become campy love. So

50:44

like sure. Yes. I

50:47

just don't want to think about anything and that movie will

50:49

do that for me. So

50:55

they could tell. I mean I was watching it all unfold

50:57

live. We were watching TV to make sure we weren't going

50:59

to get hit by a tornado. And

51:02

the debris clouds were like

51:04

at around 3000 feet. That's

51:07

where they can measure stuff from the ground getting tossed

51:09

up. But in

51:11

like a stronger tornado, like

51:13

an F4, F5, the

51:16

debris clouds can be so high it

51:18

actually gets in the air current

51:21

itself. So like they'll

51:23

find stuff like in the Joplin

51:25

tornado like the F5 in Joplin,

51:27

Missouri was like devastating. Like

51:29

an F5 looks like a new quinof. Like

51:34

Twister movie aside, it's insane.

51:37

But they found debris like states away.

51:40

Like they'd find shit just in a field

51:42

like in Illinois. Because

51:46

the debris clouds are so high. It's

51:48

like it's the

51:50

strongest force of nature on earth by

51:52

several orders of magnitude. Good

51:56

Lord. Yeah. It's weird

51:58

stuff. I haven't gone to like. The big

52:00

thing here is stay away from the wreckage, don't

52:02

go rubberneck it, because they're

52:04

trying to clean it up. So

52:07

I haven't gone up to take a look at the last tornado

52:09

that went through Nashville, it went through

52:11

Germantown and East Nashville, and it was

52:13

brutal, dude. I

52:15

remember just driving it on through there, it was brutal. There

52:18

was a series of them in Alabama maybe

52:21

a decade ago, do you remember that? There were two or

52:23

three of them just split out like crazy and just wrecked

52:26

through like Tuscaloosa and stuff.

52:29

There was a story of this guy, he

52:31

was like this gigantic football player, him and

52:34

his girlfriend were like huddled in their bathtub

52:36

because you go there because that's where the

52:39

piping is and stuff and they're usually an

52:41

internal room structure. And

52:44

he was trying to hold, he just woke up in a

52:46

field. Like he lived, but

52:48

yeah, and like he just woke up in a

52:50

field and like, you know, she

52:52

didn't make it. It was insane. So like,

52:56

you know, you can be right, one can tear something down and

52:58

then the house right next to it will be fine or undamaged

53:00

almost like that kind of thing. Right, that's kind of, that's why

53:02

I was asking what it would be like to be in it.

53:04

They gave him a first down now. They gave him a first

53:06

down now. Because, yeah, yeah, he got a first down.

53:09

He got the six. We're

53:11

in pay dirt, boys. Walk

53:14

off that tragedy. There's nothing in the rule book

53:16

says a tornado can't throw you over the end

53:18

zone. All right. Here's

53:22

for people who live through a tornado. So

53:29

there's this story in BBC news

53:32

science section saying

53:35

scientists are eavesdropping on Twisters to develop

53:37

an early warning system, a new early

53:40

warning system and fight warning

53:42

fatigue. So I guess warning fatigue

53:44

is a thing. Yeah. Yeah.

53:48

And like, so

53:50

they're doing like, you'll get tornado warnings because they see

53:52

it on radar. It doesn't mean one has dropped out

53:54

of the sky. That's like

53:56

a special tag they add to the warning. So

53:58

most warnings. the vast majority

54:01

of tornado warnings, in

54:03

fact, like nothing happens, everything's

54:05

fine. They've just done this thing

54:07

here where we have warning sirens and

54:09

it used to warn your county would

54:11

be under a warning, so it would warn the

54:13

whole county. So sometimes, if

54:17

a county is big enough, you could be

54:19

50 miles, 60 miles from the potential tornado

54:21

and your sirens... Right, hence warning fatigue where

54:23

you're like... Your sirens are going off. Yeah.

54:26

Yeah, so they've made it now where the

54:28

warning polygons are smaller, so now

54:31

it's not county by county. So

54:33

if your siren goes off, like absolutely

54:35

take cover, but... Sorry.

54:38

Yeah. I was explaining the

54:40

fatigue, because like every... No, that's good to

54:42

know, being someone who's never been anywhere near

54:45

a tornado. Every

54:48

spring, you'll be under like 50 tornado warnings and

54:50

like most of the time it's... So

54:53

a lot of people start ignoring them, which is a problem.

54:56

Right, of course you would, yeah. Or

54:58

there's a difference between a watch and a warning, too. Like

55:00

a watch as they're looking for and a warning as they

55:03

have seen. They've seen one, right? Well, they've seen it on

55:05

a radar. So

55:07

like, radar doesn't go all the way to

55:09

the ground. So there's rotation happening

55:11

in the sky, which means

55:13

like there could be one on the ground, but

55:17

a warning isn't like an eyes-on thing.

55:20

And they didn't even have tornado warnings until like, I

55:23

think the 50s, because before that,

55:26

there were devastating tornadoes that would kill tons of

55:28

people with no warning because they

55:30

didn't want to freak people out like

55:33

they thought it would cause mass panic. Oh. Yeah,

55:36

we used to have... That was like a newer thing.

55:39

There's a siren by my high school and

55:42

they would test it like once a month, you

55:44

know? Yeah. And it would go off

55:47

in class. And like, I remember one time in

55:49

class with my buddy Mike, it

55:51

went off and he just like flipped his desk

55:53

over and he yelled, poor NATO. I

56:00

think, looking back it was pretty funny,

56:02

but now, I kinda think he was

56:04

a genius. You know? Yeah.

56:12

So, if a tornado is coming near

56:14

you, humans will hear the sounds of a tornado,

56:16

which both Jane and Jesse

56:19

are familiar with, which is, starts

56:21

with rustling of leaves, squeaking

56:23

hinges in the creek of nearby trees, then

56:25

a deafening rumble approaching the train, and

56:28

a screech of nails being ripped from wooden boards and unpredictable

56:30

thuds from flying debris. It's

56:34

not even mentioning the rednecks. You

56:36

hear mainly a lot of like, holy fuck! You

56:41

guys should, at some point, watch the videos of

56:44

the Nashville tornado just for the people that are

56:46

filming. Holy shit, man! Fuck,

56:51

man! Find out

56:54

they're all cops. That vehicle was overturned

56:56

by the residents with these individuals. The

56:59

sock, inverted, a sock-clonic, a barometric...

57:02

My God in heaven, that's a

57:04

big one. It

57:06

was rotated longitudinally by... It

57:10

looked like God's cock, I tell you. It came on

57:13

down, dragged across the... It

57:15

was like a long, stretchy one, not so much

57:17

a fat, wide one. It was like getting tea-bagged

57:19

by the Lord. He was my poet-colleague. But

57:22

there is another sound. It's the joy of being my dog.

57:27

There is another sound that humans can't hear, because

57:29

it's so low in frequency it's beyond our

57:32

human hearing range, but it could offer

57:34

a way of providing earlier, more accurate

57:36

warnings of these destructive storms. So

57:39

with winds that can reach up to 300 miles an

57:42

hour, that's almost 500 kilometres an hour, the

57:44

storms that produce tornadoes generate low-frequency

57:47

sound waves, or infrasound, that

57:49

can travel for hundreds of miles. And

57:51

eavesdropping on these signals could

57:54

lead to a new type of early warning system

57:56

that could save lives. That

57:59

would be very cool. That's exciting. Yeah around

58:01

1200 tornadoes hit

58:03

the US in an average year with most occurring

58:06

in the Great Plains of the central US Although

58:09

apparently the tornado alley is changing according

58:11

to a linked article Southeast, baby. Change.

58:13

Yeah Oh

58:15

really? Yeah moving on over They

58:18

caused millions and in some cases billions of dollars worth of

58:20

damage annually and claim an average of 87 lives a year

58:22

since 1951 and

58:27

God man Yeah, apparently

58:29

76 people have died so far this

58:31

year Yeah, what I

58:34

like about this article is

58:36

that the dollar amount lost it precedes

58:38

the amount of lives lost So

58:46

for decades Ashley home versions is

58:48

fucking down Damn

58:55

she really through the goddamn flying into the

58:57

waffle house. Look at that goddamn You

58:59

know what we could really use right now is a 24-hour

59:03

Home Depot rebuild Liberal,

59:08

California They're

59:18

best of all the way to Bruce

59:22

I gotta ask what the plywoods pronouns are

59:25

now Was

59:28

this trans drywall I Have

59:31

to go see what I wanted

59:33

to share that tells it

59:36

we're on this river to pop my head I Was

59:38

back over texted with some buddies and it was

59:41

around Halloween and we were all going to meet for

59:43

drinks at my friend's house And my

59:45

buddy John lives in San Francisco and

59:48

he stuff started taking pictures of this house with all

59:50

his Halloween decorations on it and This

59:53

guy comes outside and he's like can I help you and he

59:55

goes? Oh, I'm sorry I just I don't

59:58

live in Texas anymore and these like your Halloween decorations

1:00:00

are awesome I just don't see them he

1:00:02

goes uh he goes where do you live he

1:00:04

goes I live in I live in

1:00:06

San Francisco and the guy goes

1:00:08

with Nancy Pelosi yes

1:00:14

with Nancy Pelosi yes

1:00:16

the speaker of the house yeah

1:00:18

we spin the chore we all

1:00:20

to decide which of us filled

1:00:22

the dishwasher we should we'll finish

1:00:33

the the science part of the tornado

1:00:35

story after

1:00:37

Shane stuck down cuz we were on

1:00:39

a tight time crunch yeah we don't

1:00:41

have to go to important comedy stuff

1:00:43

yeah we got carried away in tornado

1:00:45

chat for way too long where

1:00:49

can our listeners find you and more importantly your

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was Burt and his wife Lee and we're like

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generous enough to produce it and give me that

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also catch me on the road all the time

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I'll be in Portland for New Year's oh sweet

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and I became friends yeah at the heat at

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the helium helium I'm assuming helium

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yeah at the club yeah

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so I'll be there thank

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you guys for having me it's a yeah it's been

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a lot I think I think I've seen math

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1:01:48

well thanks for joining us yeah thanks I

1:01:51

appreciate you guys take care yeah buddy

1:01:53

but so so here's here's

1:01:56

what they don't so for decades they these meteorologists

1:01:58

is trying to struggle up I've

1:02:00

tried to struggle. They've tried to struggle. They've tried

1:02:02

to struggle. But they failed and succeeded. They

1:02:06

tried to, they struggled to identify which storms will

1:02:08

produce tornadoes and which won't. So

1:02:10

I think this is what you were talking about Jesse, with like

1:02:12

they can identify the patterns in the air. So

1:02:15

Chris Nowatowski, who's associate professor

1:02:17

in the Department of Atmospheric Sciences

1:02:19

at Texas A&M, said while

1:02:21

experts are fairly good at predicting the

1:02:23

large-scale conditions that can produce tornadoes up

1:02:26

to date in advance, predicting when and

1:02:28

where specific tornadoes will form is

1:02:30

more difficult. Several storms that

1:02:32

seem capable of producing a tornado might exist in

1:02:34

the same favorable environment but only one or two

1:02:36

will actually produce one. So

1:02:38

most destructive tornadoes spawn from supercells,

1:02:41

which are violent thunderstorms that form

1:02:43

from a persistent, rotating

1:02:45

updraft known as a

1:02:48

mesocyclone that generates tall, anvil-shaped clouds

1:02:50

and brings severe weather including heavy

1:02:52

rain, high winds and large hailstones.

1:02:55

When conditions are favorable, downdrafts

1:02:57

within the supercell, storm,

1:02:59

concentrate the rotating air into lower levels

1:03:01

of the atmosphere, which eventually becomes focused

1:03:04

into a narrow column and then

1:03:06

when that reaches the ground that becomes a tornado.

1:03:09

There are many theories about what causes this to

1:03:11

happen, like temperature differences in the air on the

1:03:13

outside of the storm, but the exact conditions that

1:03:15

cause a tornado to form are not fully understood.

1:03:19

The wind itself is also invisible to the

1:03:21

human eye, they only become visible due to

1:03:23

the presence of water vapour that condenses into

1:03:25

a funnel-shaped cloud within the vortex of the

1:03:27

tornado where the air pressure is lower and

1:03:30

then dust and debris also help to make them visible. So

1:03:34

one thing they can use is Doppler radar, which is what

1:03:37

you're talking about. As they are

1:03:39

forming, as the water carried by these storms

1:03:41

reflects the radar signal, the meteorologists are only

1:03:43

rarely able to spot the actual tornadoes using

1:03:45

this technique. This can also mean that

1:03:47

the tornado warnings that rely on this method can often turn

1:03:49

out to be false alarms as the

1:03:52

supercell thunderstorm detected using the radar don't ever

1:03:54

produce a tornado. Again, Jesse, that's exactly what

1:03:56

you're saying. Yeah, we should have read ahead,

1:03:58

I just didn't mean to... Let's

1:06:00

see so let's think about how you would how

1:06:03

much of this reverse is bullshit

1:06:06

Yeah, well ground local so you're already you've already

1:06:08

put a hyphenated thing in there to not get

1:06:10

the B in there Otherwise it'd be Linda Local

1:06:14

local local infrasound data

1:06:17

acquisition. I think that's actually not that

1:06:19

contrived I think they've actually done a

1:06:21

fairly good job if you sick

1:06:23

ground based local infrasound data acquisition

1:06:26

as a sentence I wouldn't instantly

1:06:28

go you've reversed Back

1:06:31

when in that but then you've given up on the B,

1:06:33

but you've included the end And

1:06:35

local is definitely a bit superfluous

1:06:37

as opposed to what long distance

1:06:39

like yeah Yeah

1:06:45

Yeah, okay and infrasound yes, I guess you're

1:06:47

getting I and the end otherwise it'd be

1:06:49

it should be good binder Really?

1:06:54

Good blitter good blitter yeah good bit of good

1:06:56

bit there But

1:06:59

anyway not fair play. I think that was alright. I'll

1:07:01

accept that one. I'm okay with it They

1:07:04

hope that the equipment will help storm chasers to

1:07:07

better monitor the development of tornadoes in real time

1:07:10

But requires the equipment to be deployed to the right place

1:07:12

at the right time Some researchers

1:07:14

however working on systems that could be

1:07:16

left to permanently monitor for tornadoes one

1:07:19

group led by Roger waxler

1:07:21

whose principal scientists at the National Center

1:07:23

for physical acoustics At

1:07:25

the University of Mississippi are planning to

1:07:28

deploy for for permanent arrays of high-tech

1:07:30

sensors in South, Mississippi To

1:07:32

detect infrasound signals with their

1:07:34

hope will provide a way of constantly consistently

1:07:36

monitoring and detecting to an ologs or

1:07:41

Yeah By

1:07:43

the way the the Sensors they

1:07:45

were using originally designed to detect plan

1:07:47

a start clandestine nuclear

1:07:49

weapons testing Oh

1:07:53

They are state-of-the-art for detecting signals

1:07:55

from extremely large explosions he says

1:08:01

We could also generate

1:08:03

things in that super low frequency range, I

1:08:05

guess. Yeah. Yeah,

1:08:08

suppose just the air speed of that.

1:08:11

Yeah. Yeah, 10 Hz

1:08:13

is almost, you can almost just like

1:08:16

make that... Yeah, yeah, yeah. So

1:08:20

Waxel's hoping eventually they can get

1:08:22

to the point that they can localize it to a NATO to

1:08:24

within half a football field. Which

1:08:27

I think is the right unit of measurement for this

1:08:29

kind of thing. Sure. Yeah.

1:08:31

Yep. Yep. Well,

1:08:35

we should wrap up the main episode. Guys,

1:08:38

anything to plug? Anything people should be aware of coming

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up? Not

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for me, I'm stuck in this weird move.

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So I should have that done soon and then

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I'll be back at it. That's been the number

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one... Moving during the holidays sucks.

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Sucks. But,

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you know, we'll get there. Yeah,

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nothing on my end. I

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guess if you're out

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in Joshua Tree, I

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guess look at my Instagram and if I've... I

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think I'm going to start doing like this monthly

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music thing at the Joshua Tree Saloon. So I'll

1:09:14

post on my Instagram, Andy

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T. Wood, if you're in the air and you

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want to come by, JT Saloon sometime in January.

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We'll see what it ends up being. Nice. I'm gigging mostly around

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LA at the moment, but I'll be back on the road in

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the new year. So I will let you guys know when I'm

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doing that. But in the meantime, you

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That's also where we post all the links to the

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