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and making an even greater would it be that hard

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to imagine that we're gonna talk about it

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this week i in one of your house

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andrew gregory and i'm one

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of the beatles evan gregory a

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, extremely excited to welcome this week's

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guess arthur meyer on

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the podcast welcome are there for think you guys

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is a pleasure a true pleasure to

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be here i am extremely

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stressed out to be talking to you in person

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arthur because we emailed

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a lot yep for the united as the first

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my roommate you ah i'm and

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i'm terrified the i'm in a call you straighten

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your face the name donald physicists

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a smooth happens you lot that you meet people

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for the first time in their of than the call you donald ah

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no it hasn't yet as is this would be the first

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be the first and and is not is not for

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a random reason it is because

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are there for ten years ran and dare

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i say project yes it was a eleven

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the right idea it was email project

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is have an album of the weeks project

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where hundreds of people in album

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a week not there were hundreds of emails we know hundred

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or eight one person each week

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sent out their favorite album and hundreds

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of people did that yeah why am i explained earlier

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in a city abuse city abuse other favorite album

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of all time and then wrote whatever they

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wanted to about it and l

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the other people in the project got the

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got the email yeah and the

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name of the email products was the

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donald p make man project

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so every time i ever got enough from arthur

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it's also said donald in the email yes

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exotics linear looking strain other's eyes is

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terrified that at any moment i can

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call him donald the only do i'm walking

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a success at an event

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as , will feel disrespected what

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i found so many great i was

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only i was on the project for the last maybe two

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years breath on so many great albums ah

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through it are there is a true lover

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of music infuriated also

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a ton of other amazing music leans

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into list but the whole time is also working as a

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comedy writer at jimmy fallon and doing

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a ton of really funny bits about music

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on the jimmy fallon just cel excited heavier

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oh thank you so much since it's a thrill we

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invited you here because of your credentials

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as a music scholar and music fan

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and as comedy writer but also

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because of the bullet point on your resume

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where it says has been

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nude on nbc, right?

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that real i have been via

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naked butt blurred out on nbc

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full frontal naked on

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hbo and on hulu

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yeah naked

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under way at the end where

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is it? just the flash underwear? have a fake bush

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on it that

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is grosser to look at flesh

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tone underwear then to just see a naked man,

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you know, like

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for me to just look at myself in flesh tone

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underwear it's it's the revolting that's

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very subjective opinion of me is because you,

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it looks a man with no genitals of

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it messes other

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the

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maybe that is the or maybe sixty six

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kinda went about as

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exactly what others say others or

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is it because when you look at the first stone

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underwear you have to imagine

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what's underneath ah know

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something to think about ago as the old seem

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as a shower you're not gonna get me away from

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this one and the naked man and what's

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more famous naked man is there than john

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lennon on all some gilbert oh my god

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is in l a lot album covers ride

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least one and then there's the bed picture the

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same as that in picture there naked

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in that we're we're all divorce it

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did inviting much reporters in your house take

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pictures of naked for quote

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world peace his successor

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sit or sir that's why i want the reporters

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coming drastic pictures of you and your wife naked

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in their successors ss

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, think they're also naked on the let it be

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album cover you just see their faces faces

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the neck they're all make it said they're all saying

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the migrants presumably rather

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than a certain hours i have ever

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have as you on the next or

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this the of the most famous

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most impactful songs of

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all time ever imagined by

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john lennon and i think most people would say

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a perfect song this song cannot be

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impugns there's nothing to do about

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it why on earth would you come

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to this show and say you know

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what songs i want to take a look at both

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i'm an impudent right away i'm an abuse

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of in you said about eleven which is the

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one of the most famous songs of all time yeah

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the impacts

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it

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there's no countries those you

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know what a what impact has this song

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has other than make middle

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schoolers think really deeply about world

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geography want me to bound

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everyone together , beginning

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of the pandemic i think everyone came together

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behind go get out and and

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agree that that the his that a

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heard covering that finally the great thing for

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the world and help fight cove and even

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like a lot of the people in the video

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later apologized yeah a lot of view in

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the video or like yeah i'm i'm really

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sorry we shouldn't on that unless like

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the beginning the pandemic was weird for us to

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we're making a lot of bad choice i would have totally

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done it like if i was asked like it's

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like oh yeah of course of do elegant

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i'm doing nothing else right now except sitting

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at home years know what could have made the

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better choice if gallagher though as

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her aides and or whoever calls you up and says

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will you be in a twitter video with her

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get you just say yeah i'll do anything you

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don't know that the end result is gonna be one

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hundred percent grins yeah this is a fool's

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what was it or that made you all songs

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choose the song imagine what i've always

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there's always been always thing about the thing that has bothered

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me which is the lyrics imagine there's

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no haven't it's easy if you try

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so then that's the thing and then i'm just like

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inverse imagine there's no countries

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it isn't hard to do to an image

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know possessions know wonder if you can so

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the lines it's easy if you try it isn't

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hard to do i wonder if you can

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even john lennon is is really trying

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to i have been pretty passive aggressive

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sets of bullying

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just bullying it's like it's don't have to

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the one of the made me try to him at lake what

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do you do a man like just out i'll decide

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if i want of as it like is trying to goad

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me into imagining this stuff just

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let me do around and did you still

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get is very much they added energy of

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like i feel like he's selling me on this

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way older a little bit the being pushy

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yeah well it's this is happening outside i

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school cafeteria for sure like outside

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the view of authorities and teachers and

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him pay imagine there's no countries

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the the right to strike everyone's

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in it why me done are already in sacks

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yeah i did it a method

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, me to second

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season your brain as a fifth of

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that's one of those things where when those says

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it's easy if you try

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we're actually makes me question

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the premise a little bit like

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you said that look too hard like is

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it easy to this is somewhat sounds

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and thought experiment to imagine

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there's no countries in there is

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also one of those lines that you could tell he just

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needed some his as the as the their

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leg there's a reason why there needs to be part

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of the song imagine there's no heaven as

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easy have you tried like he did

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include didn't have anything else as he needed

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to put their lives queue up the first verse

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of and because i think if we get to the end of the first vs

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will see that there's one reason

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that that line is usually tries

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in the song and it is one of my absolute

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number one pet peeves with songs

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i'm all birds on their birdsong

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, me know when to eat animals

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there's were just animals

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imagine the is no heaven

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going i am one

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requests

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right

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mine okay it is fairly

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wrong

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that's it that's the reason

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why it's easy if he tries in the song

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scurries needed a rhyme with sky

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here and he was like oh what

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what rhymes with sky yeah

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like high by try

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like that's a that's the thing that work that he

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just gave up a little too early

9:34

does the is just a filler like yeah you

9:37

might be a little say

9:39

it like he just put anything there's a

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, the illuminati ssssss

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by amazing now get the correct me if i'm

9:47

wrong but is this one of those

9:50

famous examples the other one being

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one we talked about a couple weeks ago

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sexy bitch by a kind of david guetta is

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it is one of those famous examples of i

9:59

wrote this one the just came right out

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who they just feels like it's

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one of our eyes like the magic song it

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was given to me by the gods it's

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it feels like it is and they're like some

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claims about that but if

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you go back and listen to the

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sessions from lead it you

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mean like peter jackson's get it actually

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peter jackson get back nineteen sixty nine this

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comes out and nineteen seventy one and

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just in the background at some point during the sessions

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okay so which would have been how long before this

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came out two years two years two years before

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i met any of your ass because of the we years

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with

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the

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what are you doing saw

10:45

, the around the piano seems like

10:48

a match and i will a and like and hour

10:50

i was it's like was hundred percent smoking

10:52

gun that's from the background and let any the backgrounds

10:54

of let it be so it's clearly records from

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imagine but assist assist accord idea

10:59

he had but the other thing that one

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hundred percent proves that this is not written overnight

11:03

is that john lennon later

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in life admitted that this song

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was quote unquote well written

11:11

yoko ono because he cribbed the idea from

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one of her palms oh she

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had a book of poetry from nine to sixty four

11:18

the the poem called cloud peace with the line

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imagine the clouds dripping the

11:24

hole in your garden and put them in the

11:26

original that is hard to imagine the i dig

11:28

the hole in your garden that it shows that that

11:30

much heavier lifts with that poem was even on the

11:32

back of the album so

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it was like he has like legally like the state

11:37

john lennon has even legally gone through the process of adding

11:39

yoko ono to the song

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as a songwriter i will say thing

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a did not resemble thing be here

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the only good only one word uncommon imagine

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that doesn't that's a fair point her thing is a is

11:51

a much weirder emotional

11:53

thought experience and his thing

11:55

is much more trying to write like are or

11:58

touchscreens world anthem

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for love and peace yes which he did

12:02

i guess pegged physicists

12:05

we also he also has like

12:07

the earth they also found lyrics on

12:10

like certain evidence to be found the lyrics in

12:13

his handwriting the history of different

12:15

hotels that's like okay

12:17

and what he could have had all the stationary theoretically

12:20

like in his living room at his house right magnesium

12:22

prove that he was at the hotels from his writing

12:24

and from lyrics but his work on for a while

12:28

and then put together the

12:30

second so i'm after the bills breakup

12:34

he who produces album with yoko and phil

12:36

spector the the wall of sound guy that

12:38

he had so long and mired okay the

12:40

other thing the thing that sounds you have this hippie anthem basically

12:43

this almost transcended hippie dumb and just

12:45

become likes or the song as played the olympic

12:47

open ceremonies you know how

12:50

yeah that's how big it is like it i went to

12:52

the topic charts when it came out in nineteen seventy

12:54

one and then just entered

12:56

the song hall of fame yes

12:58

elton john was covered it diana ross covered it

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dot partners covered it like everyone is covered it and

13:02

everyone accepts that like yes this is a song

13:04

we all agree is the perfect

13:07

expression of peace isn't but still think

13:09

of right next to on the album is

13:11

i'm i'm a jealous guy the songs

13:13

has been with about like what a terrible husband used

13:15

yoko ono

13:17

i'm jealous baby

13:19

and they're also all these like call

13:21

out with paul song like i'm really mean songs

13:24

about like just like sitting on his relationship

13:26

with paul oh they play on three how do you really love

13:28

it may yes yeah yeah that's how do you

13:30

sleep a night is on this album to and in

13:32

the death of opens with that is titled after

13:34

imagine you know who should get co writing

13:37

credits and the son who didn't is forrest

13:39

gump remember

13:42

that great point they appeared

13:44

on the same talk show together the dick cavett

13:47

show with him have know nothin imagine

13:49

know real is no leads in diseases

13:52

our possessions diseases this is

13:54

now heaven or hell is as easy

13:56

easy to try dick if there's one

13:58

see that the movies with com goes

14:00

from being like very good the

14:03

like really good approaching kind

14:05

of bad seeds either that

14:07

cms after words

14:09

the see where he wipes his face with the sure

14:12

the smiley faces on it afterwards i

14:14

am i yeah that's where is already pretty bad

14:16

right now they're just trying to cram stuff and yeah

14:18

they had that idea someone has an idea

14:20

years ago for something else and like we gotta we

14:23

gotta put that in a movie school

14:25

and forrest gump just that which is just a catchall

14:28

for catchall every possible periods

14:30

the and you could think of anything that could have ever

14:32

happen in the sixties or seventies disease

14:35

seventies disease other so was

14:37

what was it that made you think that this

14:39

is a one sitting song is it just that

14:41

he rhyme easy if you try

14:43

with above us only sky it could be i imagine

14:46

it's the filler rhymes but also ia

14:48

ia like you said the line is easy

14:50

if you try is just a filler to get

14:52

to above us only skies

14:55

but i also want to pay compliment

14:57

to the song is the clear case of the

14:59

simplicity is because of

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hard work this is great song writing the simplicity

15:04

is why it's popular people

15:06

, this focus is so easy to remember

15:08

so easy to sing is the simplest

15:11

possible metaphors for peace it's

15:13

easy to play on the piano not only does his

15:15

thug basically state a middle school

15:17

level of philosophy philosophy

15:19

imagine there's no conflict now there's peace

15:22

but it also is a middle school level

15:24

of piano performance and

15:27

eleven year olds can sit down in a hotel

15:30

lobby and bang this one out just as

15:32

good as john lennon did her

15:34

leg he'd his popularity this

15:36

song has been written in the key

15:39

of d or f sorry no

15:41

way it's being performed at the twenty twelve olympics

15:43

just fifteen minutes of

15:46

fact that john lennon was just like i'm

15:48

putting as right in the middle of the me ball started

15:51

this in the key a c to say that see

15:53

you in the music video they're in

15:55

their home in an entirely white

15:58

room playing the song and a white here

15:59

and i just realized so i called the whole

16:02

verse they only play on the white t

16:05

imagine that

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imagine there's no black keys middle

16:10

accidentally to you

16:13

could blame someone , but

16:16

no heaven is easy if you try

16:18

semi this operates under the assumption that

16:20

there is a heaven and hell great

16:23

so it should be like imagine there is a haven't

16:25

would make worse make didn't like

16:27

other that there's no heaven or hell

16:29

set reds much more difficult to imagine what

16:31

that place is and we only exists here

16:34

on earth during our lives idea

16:36

it was really hard to really heavenly this

16:39

guide know how hard it was to write the bible

16:41

his thousands

16:43

of years to rise it was really hard to imagine

16:46

and be brazil argued about what it looks like

16:48

the mother wrong as guy

16:54

i'm you the com some rain i love it other

16:56

seed yoko not

16:59

knowing you will

17:02

, back around the city worse worse

17:05

, we'll

17:07

refrain my son

17:11

and luckily the flyers another one ready sneezes

17:16

, lyric he chooses them are hard

17:19

to imagine mama

17:26

no i

17:32

was the are i will say that like there's a lot

17:34

of things that people kill for

17:37

i'm sad to share with our audience unnecessary

17:39

violence has many causes him

17:42

his who are have an abundance

17:44

of thanks to get angry about and soothe

17:46

violence countries this happens to be one

17:48

of them countries is the thing that goes to

17:50

war and mitt and makes war then

17:52

the claim that that's not hard to do

17:55

imagine know countries that's already tough

17:57

for me yeah it is really hard

17:59

to a man don't know countries just total anarchy

18:02

or communism and then the third

18:04

line of the stands furthermore

18:06

there's nothing to killer die for was

18:09

really a tough one to swallow i want to live

18:11

in that world where there is nothing to killer

18:13

die for but imagining it's

18:15

imagining a world in which known

18:17

will get jealous overs your

18:20

wife sleeping with jason the trainer

18:23

think of like of like mentally conflict

18:26

among humans i think the scenes in two

18:29

thousand one a space odyssey new

18:31

the apes or just beating he said to death

18:33

with bones and sticks and the

18:35

apes or just hungry and right

18:37

these did it's it's resource

18:39

scarcity the and whether it's

18:42

scarcity of your wife's levin to

18:44

see having sex with jason the trainer

18:47

or , the because your family or your tribe

18:49

doesn't have enough food doesn't think they're outside

18:52

of countries or religion news

18:54

as is a tough pill for me to swallow that i can imagine

18:57

those things were all also there's seven billion

18:59

people on the earth and i

19:01

mean night at all of all

19:04

seven billion of them live in a country

19:06

for their entire lives cs none none

19:08

of them and the have managed to

19:11

imagine a world no country so

19:13

well the mountains of that

19:15

of country yeah totally the a no one

19:17

sees them as and themselves as the a resident

19:19

of earth no one's like where do you live i live

19:21

on an earth any

19:25

be more specific than that that of

19:28

a rather than ever yeah even

19:30

like i think of this a thing the country

19:32

in florida there's a sake the

19:34

movement to secede the island

19:37

a key west oh really and like even they

19:39

didn't say like we're a country less

19:41

people ah they said like the

19:44

west is now a country on the conch

19:46

republic and even go to an office and pay

19:48

like two hundred dollars for a passport to the copper

19:50

public like her family other not even saying

19:52

where country with people they're saying like we've got a

19:54

new country we met we we imagine

19:57

a better country

19:59

what about you know like

19:59

the dude that live in the deep

20:02

rain forest of brazil or like the mountains

20:04

of pop on new guinea you

20:06

know where where civilization as we

20:08

know it has not returned all they know

20:10

their village i mean i think whether

20:12

they like it or not they

20:15

they still live in brazil and they might learn

20:17

that the hardware i guess they don't know about

20:19

our modern state craft but they do know about

20:21

murder and they just sit and watch this

20:24

may , doing spears and stuff to

20:29

refrain

20:50

israeli peer pressure unit mn

20:52

again yeah there's lots of us over your bratty

20:55

assess assess all dylan and you

20:57

there's lots of as dreamers here are

20:59

you not a dreamer unicef and

21:01

looks like his his existing in this will

21:03

been of imagining anything the

21:05

little bit about the a math homework when

21:09

he sitting down and riding the lyrics on

21:11

his hotel stationary he did he write

21:13

down you who does he get

21:15

to the end of that person who yeah oh

21:19

absolutely iconic you who is there a better

21:21

you and that's what that's generator you once in the

21:23

studio and then and then to do that every

21:25

performance ever again or like is that part

21:27

of the comment i would learn and i would love to think that

21:29

somewhere out there there exists a piece of paper

21:31

that has a howard johnson station

21:34

or anything at the top and you who who

21:36

written underneath it you know i'm

21:39

i'm the agreement like an asterisk yeah

21:41

which to him means do the uses

21:44

a assist you in you know of this means

21:46

no you don't have to rise of as

21:48

as embarrassing as someone found that a six

21:50

year you know with the asterisk names that

21:52

you don't want them to think the great john lennon

21:54

rights out use css

21:57

and see emilia isn't why does

21:59

little picture that and reminds me everytime

22:02

, see the cat cat seemingly blue

22:05

or perhaps the to to to by

22:07

the way together a list new a solo

22:10

like a beetle solo saying like

22:12

that the song and i was new and i'm like you know

22:14

this kinda sounds like the beatles era like

22:16

a sparrow the like obama car design

22:18

like uncle albert your likenesses derivative

22:21

of the beatles me like your brain forgot

22:23

that they were in the beatles has made an

22:25

aesthetic connection rather than your rise

22:27

me that you remember that paul mccartney in

22:29

john lennon we're we're in the group the beatles

22:32

yeah they were get through the most important numbers yeah

22:35

that they make sense of they would rate beatles ask

22:37

songs yeah yeah we

22:39

either song imagine really sounds like about

22:41

sixty percent of beatles catalog

22:43

here says ssssss of

22:47

, jaune as the is the series one that's

22:49

how the mythology goes that

22:52

paul is the fun ones

22:54

full of whimsy a melody and

22:56

john is all about the politics

23:00

certainly that stereotype playing out here

23:02

one thousand percent and he hit like on

23:04

his first solo record he had

23:07

working class hero he'd put out a couple

23:09

single that were like ten or more radical

23:12

politically and , like literally

23:14

apologize of inslee in the press for them like

23:16

ooh sorry as hang out with really radical

23:19

people there's also when he's doing like all

23:21

the primal scream thera oh regime

23:23

yahoo get really them primal scream therapies on his

23:25

first album mother he just likes yeah

23:27

just screaming yes reading his vocal

23:30

cords and this song was just kind of

23:32

what are as as as a mile

23:34

detract from the song kind of a retreat

23:36

into a more in and dine voters

23:39

what if we all just got along i

23:42

did they like i think this song is corny

23:44

and i also love it for all the reasons i said

23:46

because it's easy to play on piano unsettled

23:50

you play those first two cores and you feel good

23:53

man i love the best love center of you like

23:55

muscle you're just very playable it's one

23:57

of the songs that the songs was just like name

23:59

his sons you but you might there's a good chance

24:01

he was a imagine yeah you know i did the right there

24:03

the funny or a that because them saying name a song

24:06

is pretty jason i'm saying imagine a saw

24:10

know , easy if you try try

24:14

that never thought of song it's

24:16

, about sometimes

24:33

rather

24:35

i want new a yeah

24:41

the

24:43

you know

24:48

other other move

24:50

the

24:54

mm

24:54

the know resource scarcity

24:57

so this

24:59

is good for economy

25:02

is to lose them and

25:04

a necessity there were

25:07

cynics when the sun came out and

25:09

i will repeat their criticism here

25:12

which is john lennon when the sun comes

25:14

out is probably receiving more

25:17

mail box money did anyone

25:19

in the world he sang imagine

25:22

the royalties just be swimming

25:24

and yes imagine there's no possessions please

25:26

also saying what of our entire living

25:28

room was quite ssssss

25:30

that what of my sister's house or

25:32

ten thousand square foot manson in london

25:36

yes it's even seen some elyria

25:38

like when he would do this live he would send some

25:40

of the like eyes to we like

25:43

, kind of like since it's kind of like increase

25:46

the and send make reigns

25:48

of this analysis this kind of about the

25:50

though with humankind's wasn't just

25:53

about me sit so would you say that

25:55

he's having the same problem with those critics

25:57

that gal goodell was having with the public

26:00

wow rarefied celebrity

26:02

is telling me about how to do my pandemic

26:04

when season her beverly hills idol

26:07

manson i love the idea of twitter

26:09

existing when this song comes out and

26:11

people just being like john lennon is

26:13

cancelled yes yes you're

26:16

rich man and to read to be seen

26:19

about know players and like primal

26:21

scream therapy seems to me to be like

26:23

the group of nineteen seventy one

26:25

people are dragging them for doing primal scream therapy

26:28

scream therapy just hooked on heroin

26:31

use his beat up yoko ono

26:33

before people would just pounce on him

26:35

and be like a measure outta here

26:37

yeah yeah it's a

26:39

movie hard to figure out what you can even make

26:41

a song about after that are you screaming people

26:44

on like that you're singing about

26:46

amazing is no possesses people like that

26:48

like either know what to write a song about and

26:50

i can season imagine

26:53

yeah

26:56

my background to let me i mean a

26:58

go with me for a second what about a punch up

27:01

of imagined that is just the primal scream

27:04

the worry now any lyrics an allergist

27:06

griffin info have been described as as

27:08

the same thing you know his mother

27:11

on the same record this on the present or previous

27:13

record so we're talking about a john lennon song called

27:15

mother says almost unless nibble but

27:18

the feeling of mother my

27:20

to be that he was too scared

27:23

to scream the whole time in he felt obligated

27:25

to sing worry okay what if

27:27

it was only to screaming this

27:29

year ban ccs

27:31

you know how we're monkey you go and months

27:34

now here's my question let's say you're

27:36

living in a tribal scenario where resources

27:38

were scarce and you were

27:40

screaming of populism all time diseases

27:43

that would scare people away

27:45

from stealing your resources or

27:47

do think that would attract people to you to

27:49

steal your research you would get a spear in the ribs

27:52

yeah

27:54

right i'm too busy thinking about the resource

27:57

of food but your thing

27:59

about the resource peace and quiet little and

28:01

i'm thinking about all the reasons to kill

28:03

or dies it's , it's

28:05

right there in the reserves because as recovered

28:08

countries and religion are those are

28:10

pretty low on the list most

28:13

crimes or crimes of passion and people

28:15

are not running are not summers apartments pseudonym being

28:17

like

28:18

that is love my country zelda

28:20

assisted

28:21

i would be good though because you could

28:23

use an inquiry

28:24

no

28:27

will say that this song the

28:29

her went on clear

28:31

channel do not play after nine

28:33

eleven playlist one really

28:35

yes a clear shit on made a list when

28:38

nine eleven average were like there's some songs

28:40

that cannot be played on the radio because

28:42

our country is too important and

28:44

we must band together in the seventh effected

28:47

this went on the list actually makes me like

28:49

it more no way though i don't get under unpack

28:51

that a little bit it's be a has silk

28:53

song says imagine know kunduz as

28:55

as and that would undermine patriotism there is

28:57

an event called nine eleven of and

28:59

i'm sorry about that getting away with

29:02

know if he says nine eleven happened

29:04

and clear channel which is

29:06

the company that owns almost

29:09

every radio station america and dictates

29:11

all the playlists much to music

29:13

fans chagrin the put together

29:15

list of songs that were like the deemed

29:17

to be too you

29:20

iconoclast the accord or to like

29:22

a biased anti american and i thousand likes

29:25

brazil with a day after nine eleven you don't

29:27

want a radio dj to go

29:29

on and play like fortunate son by

29:31

ccr all all vietnam war

29:33

era songs anti vietnam war slugs there's a right

29:35

out no but somehow dismayed

29:38

on the list is like out a song that like

29:40

shall not be played post nine

29:42

eleven because people

29:44

associated with i still

29:47

don't get it i guess is that because there's no countries

29:49

and the sign like immune and us is very

29:51

intent on a lake firmly established and

29:53

we are a country i mean there are people

29:55

associated with war protest and clear

29:57

channels is putting a stake in the ground and saying

30:00

we're ready to go to war yeah i

30:02

mean as as like a cynic it's sorta

30:04

like clear channel is acknowledging

30:06

like my , a worse soon

30:08

sweep we gotta stay away from that's hot button

30:10

issue of saying there should be no war

30:12

system ah i'd

30:14

never heard of this before it sucks is making me angry

30:17

even now like twenty years later to think

30:19

that queer scandal would

30:21

be try to move the needle i

30:23

like making it okay for us to go invade

30:25

other countries i got us to allow

30:28

for a bit more some of the other songs as well as

30:30

on the blacklist fortunate son was just

30:32

a guess by i have to hope and

30:34

dream that that this like literally the first

30:36

on going on oh yeah as in every like anti

30:38

war movies young it's and forrest gump

30:41

that's important yeah so clear anti war

30:43

movie yet as he says acidic or

30:45

other words i think it's more of to still like

30:47

war happens movie clear

30:49

channel released an internal memo containing

30:52

a list of roughly one hundred and sixty songs

30:54

it's radio stations were discouraged from playing

30:56

for their hundred million weekly listeners

30:59

it's most of the radio listeners in the country

31:01

he can't play walk like an egyptian work

31:03

shirt makes you think about middle east yeah don't

31:06

want am i going to gypsys songs

31:08

like the on we don't know who did this effort

31:10

have been in a good us let

31:12

the bodies hit the floor sure don't

31:14

want to hear that either good democrats

31:16

as fat as fair rumbling

31:19

down by john mellencamp

31:21

there

31:21

we just in bad taste the list was

31:24

heavy on catalog acts meaning

31:26

i guess like always in classic rock it

31:29

did not have many country songs because country

31:31

just as a genre is has a blanket

31:33

pass as being patriotic right

31:36

of is the fresh and people out there for

31:38

the dixie chicks them for the degree six yeah those

31:40

after the fact they came out as being quote unquote

31:43

anti patriotic like in the mid to there are three

31:45

or something during bush's tenure this

31:47

guy here they're interviewing like deja who says

31:50

the a we did play matter he must have been accused

31:52

of not playing imagine that we're playing imagine

31:54

for serves as heal and music that's exactly

31:56

what we did did we played jet airliner by steve

31:58

miller we did not the comedy

32:00

is com , yet

32:02

to play no signs man nothing in the sky

32:04

you know play leaving on a jet plane your budget

32:06

or laundered in the sky out you know

32:08

claims a mob in the airplane over the see

32:12

see love the idea of a song from alabama

32:14

dogma neutral milk hotel neutral the

32:16

neutral are rising

32:19

up a neutral milk hotel here on the classic

32:21

rock is it's a i'm a week to play

32:24

on a reality but in the aeroplane over

32:26

the see now

32:29

oh

32:32

we

32:37

bring a fuel economy we already have

32:40

more on his name's not in the past shop

32:42

ever of he's a mechanism

32:46

the

32:48

only one more peer pressure cds

32:52

or , the only retires on the same as

32:55

,

33:05

well there's the bird has the burrow is the think

33:08

it's five probably rip to be like

33:10

official video version where version

33:12

where yoko are like taking a tranquil

33:15

walk at the opening of things oh right

33:17

really left in the bird sounds i don't

33:19

mind it are we sure that this

33:22

song wasn't sponsored by the drink

33:24

you who yeah

33:27

i mean i as i'm in second

33:29

guessing that kind of corporate

33:32

motivations of john lennon

33:34

the human uh-huh do we know

33:36

that there wasn't that wasn't a tie in to

33:38

the chocolate we don't know that we don't know that

33:40

for sure i'm almost surprised that there's not a lyric that's

33:43

like that's imagine a

33:45

they yeah

33:47

as you could ever dream

33:49

yeah it's not

33:52

an end it'll be a big that

33:54

really makes you feel yeah

33:57

and that line it really makes you think of the basic the

34:00

good as it isn't hard to do a

34:02

pretty much exactly the same thing yeah only

34:04

difference is you need to get that line and second finish

34:07

on the tiller line yeah john knows that you

34:09

gotta put the filler one second to see

34:11

finish on the big fourth line above

34:13

us only sky he asked twitter and

34:15

youtube our new but viral marketing is

34:17

not so we don't know there was a product

34:20

i know crack of our auto follow up

34:22

episode will go interview some all brand execs

34:25

and we will get to the bottom of this you who ideas

34:30

you know now ccr has

34:32

revealed that fortunate son was

34:34

actually viral marketing for the senate for

34:37

the senate young they were just like with a

34:39

yeah the cynic embassies your arms likes

34:41

we really need to build up the senate like would never will have

34:43

to be a senator saw now because you in a tiny

34:45

a nom nice work that and your song ccr

34:48

was like where where do a net worth noting

34:50

the senate so

34:54

i think imagine should be about here

34:56

well here's what can i put she has an idea who

34:58

is that why we're here that's here that's why you're

35:00

here so up one thing i think i think

35:02

amazing could totally stand to use

35:04

some actual visual

35:07

imagery lagging know that it's really

35:09

bad stuff that you're a man she has really very abstract

35:11

i know you're a the and i think it for there's

35:13

a few more concrete thing so like

35:15

for example that yorker

35:24

imagine

35:31

in

35:34

an age

35:37

you to the

35:40

airports that

35:42

was cool but usually do and says

35:44

well let's let's go

35:50

the imagine new

35:53

and ross

35:57

you do

36:01

good

36:05

movie it is i converse as as

36:08

as i am

36:10

in there is a month

36:16

who has a p a

36:23

he do that

36:25

then go

36:29

many will have the oh

36:32

really

36:36

imagine you're jewish

36:39

students

36:55

well

36:58

i guess imagine being

37:03

i will say

37:05

the

37:11

anna may or ,

37:13

like this is the the

37:20

idea that apostles short

37:22

term a sword success he has a little all

37:25

birds as a lever what

37:27

i like about every part of that

37:30

they all seem like a bad

37:32

dream had by a powerful film exists

37:35

except the movement like that like a

37:37

normal people making us are

37:39

bad dreams are about like i went

37:41

to high school and i was naked yes

37:44

if you're like a sixty five year old

37:46

film exactly of like imagine your

37:48

jeffrey katzenberg your

37:50

bad dream it in an hour i do anymore

37:52

it isn't hard to imagine that imagine man your jeffrey

37:54

katzenberg see the if you try or badri

37:56

isn't about our man i walked into

37:59

my hi class and i was naked

38:01

and i hadn't save with said he and i had to give a presentation

38:04

or have bad dreams like oh my god

38:06

i just had a dream it was nineteen

38:08

eighty i walked into my first mcm

38:10

pits i was totally naked

38:14

and i was pets is a movie about

38:16

monkey being a professor mrs

38:19

, a movie that very much credence amazing

38:22

amount of ahead and i greenlit that

38:24

instead of indiana jones jones

38:28

is fixing jeffrey katzenberg area was movie

38:31

ideas by like playing a message

38:33

to see what he thinks that this as a

38:35

measure and there was

38:37

clear was able to buy

38:40

a new soon as

38:43

queen

38:45

he brought to you by

38:48

quickly yeah

38:51

or okay it was amazing pitch

38:53

imagine a version of imagine

38:55

with specifics yeah i mean

38:57

the name of the song is just imagine dot dot

38:59

dot fucked up thing yeah

39:01

imagine in parentheses fucked up thing yeah

39:04

i also think there could be a version of the song

39:06

where it's taught were at all it is

39:08

is talking about how easy it is to imagine

39:10

stuff and he just really leans

39:13

into that so like every line is

39:15

about like it's real easy

39:17

to do yeah you just need

39:19

to think stuff you never get to the

39:21

stuff he's a magic not at all it's just about

39:23

the process of like how easy it is really close

39:26

your eyes or and then you you pictured in your mind's

39:28

eye yeah that's that's that's it yeah

39:30

i bet you can't use the process and

39:33

i'm an artist i can lie in my bed naked

39:35

all day and just imagine stuff you

39:37

have to come here and take pictures of your job

39:40

if you lie in bed naked you're a loser

39:42

i do like this idea that like he knows

39:44

how to imagine and of course everyone does

39:46

but he maybe believes that you can't yeah

39:49

and so giving you a tutorial on and

39:51

imagine one

39:52

am i saw it as a kid

39:54

moved search

39:55

it

39:57

might be do or don't try

39:59

by

39:59

though all may be

40:02

an animal you saw at the zoo

40:05

the have been john lennon is a man whose affectively

40:07

existed outside of human society

40:11

since like age sixteen like good for me

40:13

and part of human society but in like

40:15

a weird corner of human society

40:17

where you're an entertainer in your

40:19

thinker it's like even the makes your time

40:21

to imagine practices man

40:23

like someone with straight from high school the college

40:26

got a job menuhin fought in the vietnam

40:28

war while listening to fortunate son

40:30

by ccr any the most

40:32

rarefied echelon you know even

40:35

say like you another somewhat famous

40:37

musician big for example your the lead singer

40:39

of the boomtown rats you're

40:42

enjoying some professional success but

40:44

you're still living a somewhat normal

40:46

life that resembles other normal

40:48

working class humans if you're

40:50

at the top of the entertainment pyramid

40:52

like entertainment limit or mccartney or mccartney star

40:54

harrison you've harrison you've

40:57

beyond even the reach of other

40:59

mortal celebrity yes the boomtown rats

41:01

are having a hustle day and

41:03

in the say it will , lennon hussein

41:06

you know what i'm gonna go do primal scream therapy

41:08

in los angeles for several weeks yeah

41:10

and i'll call that music and

41:14

in there

41:14

the gym work

41:17

yeah

41:19

hulu i have a question for

41:21

you are the which is

41:23

in your mind what is so fucked up about going

41:25

to bullies with russell crowe are

41:27

, know i i really was mistaken and

41:29

saying that those but that sounds pretty seven

41:31

and like a great time whereas believes is

41:34

it south america as well as is

41:36

central america easier leave

41:38

central men and with russell crowe i'm

41:40

i'm so mad at you for suggesting is fucked up

41:42

to go places russell crowe that i'm

41:45

going to download a quote

41:47

from the movie the insider starring russell

41:49

crowe where the guy else what

41:52

best smirk off your face and

41:54

him to put it in this episode and it's can be dresses

41:56

you are oh and that and are not interface

41:58

when it and ago unpleasant right the hague they're very

42:00

personal whenever i'm definitely soon

42:04

be great for the some boredom wipe that smirk

42:06

off your face that smirk off your face your

42:09

know the context of that in the movies or well

42:11

i wouldn't i wasn't i wasn't seemed adamant

42:13

only time ever since movie will

42:15

movie will the scene after that it's in

42:17

my opinion maybe the greatest scene

42:20

stealing seen have any movie ever were like

42:22

some kind only has one seen on

42:24

the movies over you're handling really

42:26

carry the movie that guy who's in it for one cs

42:29

lewis merged yeah the amber rises

42:31

random guy because the context as a deposition

42:33

his deposition in the sky yelp what

42:35

that smirk off your face

42:38

is really amazing so the nicer place

42:42

as i was just watching this week those watching

42:44

my cousin vinny for the first time an

42:46

actor who yells what that's mark of your face that i generally

42:48

don't think of as is being and anything isn't i

42:51

couldn't really mean is you know the actor's

42:53

name and not an actor's name is the sheriff

42:55

in my cousin vinny the sheriff who arrested

42:58

two guys the beginning of my cousin little role

43:00

yeah yeah this is a good movie game

43:02

name actors that kill a movie and one same

43:04

or the you will wipe the smoke of your

43:06

face when you are punch up of imagine

43:09

because it's gonna be even better than the original

43:11

version imagine which most

43:13

people except to be one of the greatest songs in

43:16

history at the short saw when there's not even that

43:18

many words and we've picked

43:20

them apart do we have all the info

43:22

we need to go punch and i think

43:24

we do i am going to have to

43:26

drink a couple you who's join

43:29

my work and when you as are working on

43:31

that front of you should totally like drink you who

43:33

as though and like whiskey or whiskey that like

43:35

year like ernest hemingway but with you who and

43:37

smith films are semi this sounds like

43:39

john lennon's last week and right like his famous

43:41

last weekend which was like was two year period

43:43

where period where is getting hammered with harry

43:45

nilsson in los angeles and like literally getting

43:47

thrown out of clubs for heckling the smothers brothers

43:50

they were drinking i think white russians

43:52

long time really so like what could be more

43:55

last week and john lennon than like just

43:57

pounding you who's assisted while

43:59

yet while imagine that co two

44:01

years of white russians it's

44:03

water whereas crazy wasn't aware that ultimately

44:05

so we're it's so rude to heckle the smothers

44:08

brothers they just seem so neither matter most

44:10

wholesome guys who has i've been john lennon was was gonna

44:12

say anything to use any come up to you in the

44:14

boss by your heckling the smothers brothers be like

44:16

man like you , gotta keep some

44:18

it's you have a bustling a bad for

44:20

anyone to say anything hey tom and it

44:22

was had a history of their

44:25

homes stig of maybe putting themselves

44:27

at him he's the one that says his old is

44:29

actually younger gotcha assess

44:31

assess us up and one is pretending

44:34

to be dumb he's actually the one who writes

44:36

most of the material material

44:39

i believe a white russian is vodka

44:41

sponsor clue and milk outta know

44:43

what you're getting a really bad vodka

44:45

hang over what could make it worse how about milk

44:48

oregon drink milk all might have party

44:50

alcohol consumption of horrible death

44:52

as a very bad thing that includes is whether you're

44:55

gonna be a step up because the milk is to are probably like

44:57

already processor condensed processor

45:00

whatever version of the saw you guys make as

45:03

i do hope it at least includes

45:05

a little bit more of you who led the least twenty

45:07

percent more you who them was and mirrors oakland

45:09

yeah i mean i'm you guys as a as

45:11

a genius is here but i will

45:13

say i want there to be more you by

45:16

the time you're back i'm going to find out what

45:18

the name of the rabbit is who is the you who mascot

45:20

oh yeah but he has gotta have an mp

45:22

as probably mp the user

45:24

out i have

45:27

wondered whether john lennon would have socked as john

45:29

lennon in the eighties or when i'm at a

45:31

period when he sucks and i believe

45:33

the answer is yes anything that beard wasn't the late

45:35

sixties where he was releasing scream out scream

45:37

out he thinks get a whole other bad era

45:40

in him yeah because i think the even i must

45:42

scream elms there were some grade so i mean even the

45:44

phone mother at think is a great time is just a bunch

45:46

of screaming on it but i think i

45:48

think double fantasy which is last

45:50

album they've he released that

45:52

there's some good songs but you could tennessee

45:55

it's going in this sort of bad direction

45:57

you know he's starting to get a little safe with

45:59

stuff then by the mid eighties i think

46:01

he's completely conforming who

46:04

you know all the facility the musical

46:06

tropes of they would be bowing to musical

46:08

pressures yeah like mating making

46:10

new wave since the stuff site yet so i think

46:12

he is confuse he does know what to do

46:14

his trying desperately to hold on it was i am also

46:17

he's losing in new york yep and

46:19

what is the sky rocketing

46:21

popularity in new york in the nineteen eighties

46:24

the go cocaine new

46:28

or anything of value blue redo the rocks

46:30

on who's more new york and religious

46:32

around his around his his rap he likes it

46:34

he's like i'm gonna try this blondie does

46:37

it more successfully with wraps her first

46:39

rap song the hit number one on the billboard

46:41

charts they weren't rappers but the

46:43

rich in new york and like just got a fever

46:45

yeah something about fever john lennon

46:47

one of the most same as new yorkers of all time

46:50

and he's in his forties now it's and couldn't

46:52

have avoided catching hip hop bug we're

46:54

after you've sold me on the plausibility this

46:56

alternate realities is what i imagine this

46:59

would sell as i

47:01

, love a beat do have any kind of like abies

47:04

abies as you know like an animal run

47:06

dmc can a thing or or really

47:08

any be will be some

47:12

city corporate citizen pretty see the money

47:14

get greedy while the sensor get and great he can you blame

47:17

i'm hesitant he isn't as now isn't

47:19

isn't a , of the oppressive

47:21

affirmative hope and self the southern listen

47:23

split up it's has got reagan on the ropes and infographics

47:27

mom i miss the caucasus particle pollution make

47:29

my lungs go pollution coffee get up to

47:31

please help me will you find the damn remote and first

47:34

mtv everybody damn the think

47:36

i'm lazy lazy

47:38

this it is think nuclear lazy

47:40

as a double as

47:43

, bomb as ugly well much

47:48

as you can imagine how much i would have hated

47:50

the mtv music video for this

47:53

is where he was talking met him tv yeah

47:55

he's like man is always like super non corporate

47:57

yeah he's yeah he's against mtv well

48:00

making an mtv music video and yeah

48:02

i'm working on of episode right now

48:04

for a jefferson starship

48:06

we built the said lewis again which is all

48:08

about like corporations

48:10

are taking over every six oh i never

48:12

thought the that's what that's about three seconds and or another

48:15

and birth rates rock yeah

48:18

city arrived via but the person

48:20

doing the voice overs the c o

48:22

m t v religious like such

48:24

an amazing moment of rock'n'roll parker

48:26

said yes corporations saw

48:29

this blows in in the lights be

48:31

so famous rock and roll you might call them

48:33

sealed mtv me like we just had this little

48:35

voiceover we want you to do by the way to jupiter

48:37

video on your network and

48:40

what i love is the idea of

48:43

john lennon doing a like nineteen

48:45

eighty seven read release of imagine

48:48

yeah oh as the rap breakdown

48:50

in the middle of us t where t

48:52

where realizes like there you

48:54

so much more stuff i could have imagined but

48:57

in the slow piano ballad in

48:59

have the time to get through all the lyrics and

49:01

then he the rapids and he just likes nuclear

49:04

war yeah you know you're talking about codes

49:06

you're talking about imagine becoming

49:08

we didn't start the fire as i will say this

49:11

is the as this is that the his we didn't set

49:13

of the fire is absolutely imagine

49:15

got play that all the milestones of history

49:17

like of years later the berlin wall coming down

49:20

imagine absolute getting blasted are allowed

49:22

speaker and he was around to see it will you have like

49:24

new york you know the least the alicia keys

49:26

on with jay z wrapping on us imagine

49:29

if imagine new was the piano

49:31

ballad with a wrapper on it but john lennon

49:33

with was in only ballad rally and also wrappings

49:36

is a rap about how much ronald reagan's his ass

49:38

because he would a heated roaring and having mean

49:40

because the apple or i already known

49:42

thing he by already hate or hated ronald reagan yeah

49:45

arthur we have so many ideas for the point

49:47

of too many ideas simply thanks to

49:49

you and in a couple weeks

49:52

just imagine we're going to

49:54

be calling you the to come back and

49:56

in listening to a better version of imagine

49:59

okay away the will be back in

50:01

just a moment with our pawnshop of

50:04

imagine

50:07

imagine that we're back

50:10

i can do as i them at the outset sour

50:12

to that the latter level of imaginings

50:15

don't even have to imagine it because we're

50:17

back with arthur meyer further

50:20

in our ten years hosts i don't think anyone

50:23

has brought so many ideas to the table as

50:25

you did a couple we so's honestly

50:28

, extraordinary to me i was a little it

50:30

was it was a little teachers petty for me me

50:34

was kind of hoping to become the third host the this

50:36

podcast of course you course will

50:38

people have been lobbying us furiously

50:41

andrew put you to the front of the queue and and i sent

50:43

you to sent back we

50:46

loved your ideas of course but

50:48

who wouldn't write you a youth you pitches

50:50

the idea of imagining the harder things

50:52

to imagine you pitches the rap

50:55

idea the lorry thing is just insane

50:57

i i i've listened to it several times

50:59

since and it just gets crazier and crazier also

51:01

i realize how easy it was because

51:04

original only like looking at you tube video

51:06

did i realize original rapper

51:08

is i thought a spelling punjab you

51:10

are a p p r and i was like this is a

51:12

halloween scare yeah

51:15

like lou reed saw a news story about like

51:18

kids are being poisoned and candies was

51:20

like the most nineteen eighties new story and

51:23

areas , rap what if i was the

51:25

original robber

51:29

his eyes is so asserting but we also talked

51:31

about something that you didn't pitches necessarily

51:34

was is frankly i mean this i imagine

51:36

is because john lennon is

51:38

been pretty passive aggressive no

51:40

confidence in our ability to imagine stuff that's

51:43

an easy thing to do and he is this

51:45

is certain that he needs depressed for you to do

51:47

other also maybe it's better for

51:49

an answer to the smurfs me

51:51

and my bills you imagine because i never

51:53

thought about lying in my bed naked with my wife

51:55

and it's in fighting over eighty reporters

51:58

to take pictures of me

51:59

the

51:59

the one you imagine that he's good at it maybe

52:02

if you are worth half a billion dollars you could imagine

52:05

a just you know say that for another day

52:08

anyway there's so many good ideas boylan

52:10

around here's what we came up with we're

52:12

pretty sure that this is a superior version

52:15

of the historical megahit

52:17

imagine and

52:19

i'll be like i don't think by the twenty twenty four

52:22

olympics still be playing this during the

52:24

opening ceremony they maybe twenty thirty

52:26

two thirty thirty six meters

52:37

he viewed already did you

52:40

feel

52:41

imagine green russell

52:44

crowe mississippi

52:48

one or jurors that

52:50

flies no

52:54

, the voting in the piano marinades

52:56

marinades if is if does

53:01

you saw

53:04

, causing it

53:07

you know he

53:09

oh

53:15

that

53:20

robo prime

53:22

minister report

53:25

, your gf just just

53:28

me at

53:33

all

53:33

imagine even

53:34

there are a lot

53:39

, on his blog we're going

53:41

to to

53:44

has for years later

53:46

yet later during

53:48

the o

53:51

the d p

53:53

c you

53:56

fool

54:04

then you wouldn't be the only

54:06

word

54:10

i hope someday

54:12

you will

54:21

and here you know

54:25

, mm yeah

54:29

yeah ooh ooh

54:34

ooh ooh of the streets

54:36

of them

54:38

is neither the

54:41

camera know how to

54:44

read the

54:49

article for roofing know

54:52

where your money god forbid if you do they

54:55

still around a yoga

54:58

can your help me on the deborah easy

55:02

to use amazing but maybe they just

55:04

need the woman who

55:12

the money or with ever

55:15

, was super super bowl school school

55:21

middle school

55:25

he said

55:27

the elder door my friends

55:29

you

55:32

iterating another

55:35

able to do is by

55:37

the boys if , reason

55:40

why

55:40

the my jaw

55:45

now imagine maloney

55:48

he needs

56:07

the

56:11

and i didn't feel

56:13

sick again

56:14

the

56:18

they move around a ,

56:20

bit more more

56:23

, specifically

56:25

of to guys as

56:29

hard as i live in a as

56:31

time as a day

56:34

and i have i have to say i'm have honored

56:37

that you say my rap

56:39

and the raps section of the phone

56:41

buzzes such as as it was amazing

56:44

particularly the line at nine

56:46

pm the you know where your money the fact

56:48

is fact future and doc brown's so

56:51

oh not rhythmic the way you saying as

56:53

it was perfect it was like perfect

56:55

for john lennon wrapping and nineteen eighty six

56:57

yes yeah yeah if lennon forty year old

56:59

liverpudlian was trying to wrap

57:02

that you know that with a thing and made is that

57:04

add like it's nine pm you know where your kids

57:07

are egidio in the libs turned it

57:09

around while you know where your marines

57:11

are us here and just talking about

57:13

like how gross the commercialism of

57:15

the eighties as well just like laughing

57:18

all were rather imagining all

57:20

the way to the bank second everyone

57:23

, about the superbowl these

57:25

days and ninety's have you

57:27

heard my new song is

57:30

because as because service sells a thing all he's

57:32

selling out with a single their citizens

57:35

complete allen and sell at and mysticism

57:37

the nike ad the john lennon would have been an

57:40

omega as year they do have always

57:42

like old always the michael jordan and larry bird

57:44

was to icons who's a bigger

57:46

who's a and john lennon just

57:48

do it but

57:51

others is so funny you holy

57:53

you holy the media you i

57:55

love the you include as licenses him

57:57

very rudely time thing is alyssa

57:59

i'm in a number away

58:02

with for his australia anyway sorry

58:04

your to flies the you're only

58:06

amazing because i said enough for you

58:09

here again calling himself a genius

58:11

that's what we felt like we had discovered together

58:14

is that he's bragging a little bit about

58:16

like have you ever deep fried

58:18

imagining world peace i do it all

58:20

the time i'm really good at imagining

58:22

and so just living out that bully

58:25

cells in this song a little more

58:27

fully but also there's also layer that

58:29

i hadn't really thought of which is like

58:31

john lennon

58:33

let's all the stuff for you to imagine

58:35

are you even imagining him to imagine that

58:37

he didn't preorder repeating what he

58:39

already did that's not a bad thing he

58:41

did the hard work yeah that the table for

58:44

you year though and eating dinner here to

58:46

cognitive level down as at comprehending

58:48

if i read a book of fiction i'm

58:51

i'm in i'm kind of a maddening

58:53

at medium imagine with care for look like but i'm not

58:55

imagining the plot armor reading the plot and

58:58

since

58:59

it

59:02

oh were little so

59:04

funny and this like he was the lower back

59:07

with , that if he does a little nod

59:09

to our rappers delay there as a top

59:11

of the rats are yeah because he wouldn't

59:13

love that song for sir and have any

59:16

came back think rappers like came out in

59:18

seventy nine or eighty i think that would have been

59:20

cel round round he's getting as

59:22

is getting into didn't turn to wrap and he would

59:24

have loved and definitely would inhibit he hopped

59:27

his way into a rappers yeah not

59:29

unlike bugs bunny bunny

59:32

a lot the really great references here is

59:34

it in the we

59:37

managed to transform yuzu from just a simple

59:39

exclamation

59:41

the into announced and you who is now

59:43

this song could now be

59:45

the answered by you i tried this i

59:47

tried to get evan to saying you food

59:50

trademark as

59:52

, us embassies and

59:56

now i'm curious and have i'm curious whether the

59:58

be composition of this in writing this

1:00:02

the did you guys sort of collaborate on the whole thing

1:00:04

i did one of you take the rap section

1:00:06

one of you took the scene of the traditional

1:00:09

song move you know lot of times

1:00:11

we will take the lead on things

1:00:13

and has done a couple solo and i've done a couple

1:00:15

were or maybe we'll write a few lines together

1:00:17

and all go often refer record and right the rest

1:00:19

but this was quite collaborative as

1:00:22

, we did this is

1:00:24

over each other's shoulders this is a true duets

1:00:27

i'm seeing as i'm singing the john lennon

1:00:29

impression but we're both in the room

1:00:31

or in the virtual room the whole time virtual

1:00:33

wanted to get almost the entirety of your rap

1:00:35

and but i also felt the need to

1:00:37

do put himself in the rapid surprised you

1:00:39

and also just like makes a rap even longer for fun

1:00:42

so the rap is like if you went

1:00:44

back and listen to arthur wrapping it like we

1:00:46

changed we changed small things for rhythm but it's like

1:00:49

almost all the stuff he wrapped his in there but the

1:00:51

be ibots half again of stuff that

1:00:53

we we've got a new the walrus

1:00:55

reference and the losing the sky reference

1:00:58

best , friday i know

1:01:00

that original rab pretty much my heart heart

1:01:05

pretty much the whole original rabbit a probably

1:01:07

probably wasn't worth putting in the

1:01:09

like lucy and the skies sample i

1:01:12

love the sample i that was actually i'm glad

1:01:14

you brought that to their forgot to mention how much i love

1:01:16

that as well as the little below the

1:01:18

piano phil gould you think linguist

1:01:21

and is the every time you play those

1:01:23

opening chords the got just to empty

1:01:25

bars there you could be playing a shreddies

1:01:27

feel like a little jazz leg plane some ribs

1:01:29

little another the lid they all kind of sound like

1:01:31

a needle in i have the listener those ashes

1:01:34

imagine all of the keyboard you know evan

1:01:36

i want to pay you pay compliment that compliment have saved until

1:01:38

we're on might with the big virgin energy

1:01:40

that we often have as being

1:01:43

very proud

1:01:44

the

1:01:45

the janitors of years of these punch

1:01:47

ups it is what did i do like within five

1:01:50

minutes of anything this the run into a rune be like stacey

1:01:52

catalyst the this i played

1:01:54

for casey and about he relayed you played

1:01:56

out as are you anymore matrimony

1:01:59

and a shit you just printed a mix

1:02:01

and i'm like student gotta go plus you're

1:02:04

running around mouse this and about twenty

1:02:06

seconds into maybe tournaments

1:02:09

singing this

1:02:11

and i said

1:02:13

eleven

1:02:14

and then about

1:02:16

thirty seconds later she said

1:02:18

singing

1:02:20

and i said evidence

1:02:23

and then the rap started into like who's

1:02:25

doing this parts cited

1:02:31

see thought it was dead dublin and crazy

1:02:35

to me is that case of

1:02:37

beauty products twelve years been here

1:02:39

for like dozens of hours a week could

1:02:42

not believe that this was youth is having

1:02:44

this truly speaks mythology or someone impression

1:02:46

that you absolutely up with eating before her on my

1:02:48

father you've given me my version

1:02:50

energy buys it really makes me think

1:02:52

that is to do think whole john lennon the eighties album

1:02:55

is our this eighties album as they get really on

1:02:57

the something here avenues just one pair

1:02:59

of glasses away from being a professional

1:03:01

mississippi

1:03:03

you might as well jump off oh

1:03:06

and the he of what a what eighty six hundred pm

1:03:08

it's on that within an alum there's

1:03:10

one disagreement on the song are there is

1:03:12

it's kind of trifling this is sort of thing that ever

1:03:15

know are you about for fifteen minutes the

1:03:17

last our unit this time the i'm

1:03:19

really trying to leverage you and winning the argument

1:03:22

yellow the comedy writer

1:03:24

the comedy writer imagine if right after the

1:03:26

line

1:03:27

the real real rewind is me why

1:03:29

do the rap

1:03:31

evan if you're down the rap though in the raffle

1:03:33

can imagine if you heard it's

1:03:35

nine pm

1:03:37

you know where your marines are they're

1:03:39

back to the future in doc brown car imagine

1:03:42

if you just heard marty mcfly screaming

1:03:46

right after that line oh yeah like to

1:03:48

kind of fill the space between that and the next line

1:03:51

yeah you just heard

1:03:52

yeah i like bad as andrews

1:03:55

opinion when he is wrong because there's

1:03:57

not enough space and you cannot

1:03:59

oh there's

1:03:59

that would either die or to be going to the rhythm of

1:04:02

it is the a thing or the back to the

1:04:04

future and dog man's car it's not space

1:04:06

space space he immediately you have to get into

1:04:08

doc brown's got oh no can't get up

1:04:10

yoko please help me i hope you got that yoko

1:04:13

ono yeah yeah that was amazing

1:04:15

and more you know here's a possible compromise

1:04:17

to that as as been a long time for says

1:04:19

in the movie but that is there a part where michael

1:04:21

j fox says something like browns

1:04:23

, and then like elbow

1:04:26

or martin said symptom of the part

1:04:29

where you put that in the space of that

1:04:31

line you don't i mean if he has his his voice

1:04:33

his the lead vocals and abu i think that's a great option

1:04:36

i don't know if we have that exact cause obviously

1:04:38

he says doc he he says car

1:04:40

maybe we come up with a different rhyme

1:04:43

and we'd use that line where he goes until lauren

1:04:46

yeah you know idol more and

1:04:48

com you german and comes back in just

1:04:50

for the car yeah down to the thing that has a delorean

1:04:53

yeah i think that's a very good idea how

1:04:57

, that sounds like i honestly suddenly so

1:04:59

i saw last as a first thing i do when i'm i'm

1:05:02

recording this podcast as big as they middle

1:05:04

with never again will i really was blown away

1:05:07

oh thanks man well what thanks man this has

1:05:09

been a dream debbie on

1:05:11

so we can take a break and will be back

1:05:13

in just a moment with

1:05:15

there's walk and music

1:05:20

that is what

1:05:21

would you play to walk into

1:05:23

an event real or fictional of your

1:05:25

choosing i'm as started this week and arthur

1:05:27

i made a pledge to you when i ask you

1:05:29

to come in and do this episode with us i told

1:05:31

you i would choose a walk and song that

1:05:33

i never would have known of except

1:05:36

for the donald p mcmahon

1:05:38

project wire email music projects

1:05:40

and i went back i have a doc some of those

1:05:42

albums it wasn't a maybe five seconds

1:05:44

of and i just close spotify

1:05:47

and said that album is not for me enough

1:05:49

for me and some of them are amazing i listen to around

1:05:51

the house all the time and i have a google drive document

1:05:53

that i'll pull up every every once in a while when i want

1:05:56

to listen to something that maybe it isn't at the top of my mind

1:05:58

and i scrolled through it and amazon and

1:06:01

i'm gonna say i'm in a user to walk

1:06:03

into there's like a white whale

1:06:05

for me in new york city manure

1:06:07

to the experience as a white whale for me when my

1:06:10

favorite artists and named james

1:06:12

tourette's there's a huge like

1:06:14

light squares that a minute

1:06:16

like lakmar and at the guggenheim

1:06:19

instill a seat as light installations when he

1:06:21

does his his pieces of the guggenheim

1:06:23

a couple years ago i was going so often i became

1:06:25

a guggenheim member and are just go and with

1:06:27

is amazing piece of really one time soon and

1:06:29

they're a little brothers that wow nice ps

1:06:32

one that i've been wanting see for years but it's like

1:06:34

really are it's like saying to get any of like

1:06:36

book a ticket i can never get tickets

1:06:38

as was viewed as beautiful piece we go in

1:06:41

and like business opening the the sky

1:06:43

and it's like but it's it's based

1:06:45

on quaker meetings i really want

1:06:47

to go maybe this is your i'm gonna go

1:06:50

and when i walk and this beautiful james

1:06:52

trail peace this is the song

1:06:55

i went on as i'm watching

1:07:20

this is planets

1:07:23

by the ban shows ,

1:07:26

us i sing it be the perfect song perfect

1:07:30

he before says says is

1:07:32

a beautiful person and of itself person the some

1:07:38

muscle tom are many as move

1:07:41

kind of makes you wonder though is ah capella

1:07:43

gonna come back in

1:07:47

no

1:07:50

kidding number of homes made you think of

1:07:52

an archipelago on iran's very much

1:07:55

now as hell but i do think that the harmonies

1:07:57

of the three fingers as

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the calling card

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yummy i'm moving

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, manhattan in the says scientists i

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would notice if not for arthur myron

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down and man for i would definitely look at art

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art what i will not bring

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up a month to play it at an aneurysm

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it mean i don't know hundred i it anymore because

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he sees me so viciously

1:08:27

everything humble brag now known to bear

1:08:30

sit on my dream to dream is said my

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dream is dead okay we spent all

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of the dogma john lennon whom i love but

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if i'm picking beatles whom i mccartney guy

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i do buy and to

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the theory that it's his melodies

1:08:44

and find that makes the beatles go

1:08:47

around his the gives the guy for me on picking

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from

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mccartney dollar project my favorite album

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is ram and paul mccartney released

1:08:55

around the same time the dominant making imagine

1:08:57

is complete of announce down called ram is

1:08:59

awesome my walk in scenario

1:09:02

is me busting in two

1:09:05

the new york subway for my crowded

1:09:07

commute at eight am to pack subway car

1:09:10

the first track

1:09:11

on mccartney's ram is called too

1:09:13

many people and it goes so many

1:09:16

people with

1:09:19

literally about a crowded subway than that picking

1:09:21

that instead i'm

1:09:23

picking a song about an insane person

1:09:26

because that's the energy i want to put out when i

1:09:28

go into the crowded subway car is

1:09:31

this person is crazy give him

1:09:33

more personal space

1:09:35

the doors open and you cram your

1:09:37

way into one hundred people and descent

1:09:51

the i can really maginot you see

1:09:53

one of the people that like is angling household

1:09:56

objects from their clothes on the new york subway

1:09:58

zip like a bunch of spoons on your jackman algebra

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like whoa it's a spoon

1:10:03

guys hair ,

1:10:05

sounds weird looking baggy so i

1:10:08

draw the line up smelling i will smell bad

1:10:11

smells musical in this scenario to

1:10:13

sort of may cause serious as the on faking

1:10:15

been crazy with someone put out that energy

1:10:17

so that people give me that extra six inches

1:10:19

around holding the whole whole

1:10:22

is called month very moon the light

1:10:24

side paul mccartney fallen linda mccartney

1:10:27

surgically on surgically lot

1:10:30

of the signs on this album seven

1:10:32

this lennon into

1:10:35

this is the into to him and

1:10:37

, paul mccartney him or too

1:10:39

many people john lennon's like

1:10:42

of and at the time pose like

1:10:45

lennon's like know what he tells me about and like

1:10:47

you know that i like years later he was like year

1:10:49

too many people with about homicide is on the news

1:10:51

totally prison prices and that that's

1:10:53

why do you that's when i know them all birds

1:10:55

are doing like i used to them so much money we covered

1:10:57

with john songs are more

1:10:59

over much do you sleep rough

1:11:02

burn aca are more if i

1:11:04

didn't do that of clearly about all

1:11:06

writing things for

1:11:08

his as until recently

1:11:11

called too many people job

1:11:15

the original title and soo

1:11:17

many people specifically to

1:11:19

this year i think he was

1:11:22

a zoo this as little as

1:11:25

the most very moon to

1:11:27

live from iraq and pick

1:11:29

album i'll have that are ram the would

1:11:31

you bring okay i'm gonna serve the situation

1:11:33

first i'm i'm in an airport are

1:11:37

you are not with russell crowe i

1:11:39

am with russell crowe or bad had to bullies

1:11:41

fitness

1:11:43

and

1:11:44

the flight about to board but i really

1:11:47

have to go to the bathroom and

1:11:50

i don't want to do on the plane so i try

1:11:53

to run to the nearest bathroom and for

1:11:55

some reason i'm so i'm on

1:11:57

the moving walkway and that idiotically

1:11:59

and in the wrong direction cause is my first

1:12:02

time and i'm moving walkway ibd i've never learned

1:12:04

how they work is very relate or yeah as

1:12:06

he said ah

1:12:08

i need a song that is just

1:12:10

not right for the situations

1:12:12

says athletic earth assists the song

1:12:15

that like everyone in the airport is like this

1:12:17

is a really ugly moment that were witnessing

1:12:19

right now and that son would be another

1:12:21

night by the real mccoy

1:12:30

i might have me know how to use

1:12:32

a moving walkway said this

1:12:36

, going to take forever he's running at the

1:12:38

same see that the waffles moving in the opposite

1:12:40

direction feeders is laney exact same

1:12:43

same and instead of listening

1:12:46

to the be both a number of no yona

1:12:48

getting yona also

1:12:50

amazing is by this

1:12:53

moment and song sounds

1:12:57

like you're certain receive pharmacists

1:12:59

totally dark and everyone sitting as

1:13:01

totally dark right everyone to was a like emergency

1:13:05

room one who's gonna have to sit next

1:13:07

to the sounds gonna a suffer from everything

1:13:09

and well and

1:13:11

then it turns suffer of the pilot well that place

1:13:14

is so low out

1:13:16

in the i

1:13:20

don't know about as man because he

1:13:24

has such sunny energy

1:13:26

like if i'm watching you watching particular

1:13:29

has made me feel bad for you how to

1:13:31

avoid on avoid word i made made me mood

1:13:37

oh man was is yours is as low as

1:13:48

new thirty

1:13:51

, a a

1:13:54

to earth as for see for me

1:13:56

i know we're not putting up this song was

1:13:58

in the song was see you talk to

1:14:00

me like lovers do and then he immediately

1:14:03

comes in and goes i talk talk loud

1:14:09

enough , our village

1:14:12

of read the discusses how lovers

1:14:15

to seduce you wanna come to my

1:14:17

barber said take pictures of me that

1:14:20

her lover as her lover guy named olaf

1:14:22

who's pretending to be a new yorkers though

1:14:24

he doesn't get caught i talk

1:14:27

to oh

1:14:30

oh lossless make love arthur

1:14:33

thank you so much for being here i loved your walk

1:14:35

in song i loved her suggestions for imagine

1:14:38

frankly my stomach hurts they

1:14:40

that idea this , homeless on

1:14:42

the ah this is the plan the show in which our

1:14:45

listeners delighted that having spent the last

1:14:47

hour of their lives with you want to go see what else

1:14:49

you're up to yes okay so

1:14:52

here's the thing i'm i'm excited to

1:14:54

promote my friend brady elliot and i

1:14:56

made an album called brady and

1:14:58

arthur sing songs by the beatles

1:15:00

and we made his had ten song beatles

1:15:02

cover album lots yeah we did

1:15:04

this is the most on brands promo

1:15:07

every speak of this set

1:15:09

of mine and sobriety mine arthur

1:15:12

seeing some beatles songs that the name of it yes

1:15:14

art by the earth are seeing some songs by

1:15:16

the little things sometimes i'll get up and

1:15:18

spot if and spot of them is imagine

1:15:20

some fucked up self know nana

1:15:22

nana yeah and is it's pretty much as

1:15:25

just singing the bill vines occasionally

1:15:27

we change up a lyric here and there but we don't

1:15:29

like make the lyrics funny we just legs

1:15:32

we change a couple words around look great

1:15:34

lowly when you guys do a deluxe

1:15:36

release and twenty years there have been

1:15:38

eleventh track and that is this

1:15:40

version of imagine edu as soon as i

1:15:42

ag encounter air thanks for joining

1:15:45

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1:16:13

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1:16:17

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1:16:19

back next week with another post object

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i'd know it's hard to believe we're gonna be doing is

1:16:23

again but you have to

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say