0:00

This is a head gum original. So

0:06

so

0:07

you're saying, Phil, that in

0:09

your regional your

0:12

regional version of calling shotgun,

0:15

You can't call shotgun until you see

0:17

the car? You sound completely in disbelief

0:19

of this. I don't I I don't even

0:21

buy that you don't believe this. It's

0:24

it's like super common. You think I'm faking it?

0:26

Right. I'm making a lot of regional rules. A little

0:28

bit. I I don't think you're making up your regional rules.

0:30

I I don't think that you

0:33

don't believe that

0:34

those are my regional rules. You know, I mean,

0:36

I I'm curious as to what the New York City

0:39

regional rules are because by the

0:41

time came in New York City, I kind of paged out

0:43

of calling shotgun. There are no

0:45

New York City rules too few people have

0:47

cars. Yeah. See the parking garage.

0:49

The calling shotgun. Yeah. But for us, the

0:52

gate barely exists here. In the south,

0:54

it was or at least in our our region in

0:56

the south it was once you're out of

0:58

the building. Yeah. So I

1:00

I get that. I understand that.

1:02

Chicago. But the moment you're the

1:04

noses are out you can

1:05

call Chuck on the The car could be a

1:07

mile away. I feel like that

1:10

is the same every time. This is my problem

1:12

with that. that's the same every time. Every

1:14

time you ever leave the building, you

1:17

immediately say shotgun. Whereas when

1:19

it's you have to see the car, that's

1:21

like it can change every

1:23

time. It's a it's game that's in flux.

1:25

They're breaking a lot of foot races at the last

1:27

minute to to get around the corner or to

1:30

I

1:31

can't remember to position yourself, like,

1:33

to be on the outside of a turn. So

1:35

you see the car on the corner of a building? Yeah.

1:37

Maybe some positioning. I feel like I feel

1:39

like the meta game was not it wasn't

1:41

hadn't reached that level really. The

1:43

the sophistication in gameplay was

1:45

pretty low. It was like, 00I

1:48

see the car. I now I remember I can

1:50

call. Just to prove I'm not a Philistine.

1:52

Mhmm. And I'm not rooted in my ways, you know,

1:54

just a use case that I'm seeing

1:56

your way could be better. Mhmm. let's

1:58

say you're getting out of the car, going on

1:59

a fifteen mile hike. You're

2:01

not going back into another beach. That's true. You know

2:03

what I mean? Are you going outside of the beach? going to

2:05

a national park, restroom, one

2:07

place you go inside and come out and be like, oh, shotgun. To

2:09

come out of a door. mountain bike seems seems

2:12

like you weren't really inside. I guess the

2:14

the last place is as you

2:16

leave the car. Yeah. When you get into the car, you call me

2:18

Chaka? That's a wild. That seems it

2:20

just seems not in the spirit -- Mhmm.

2:22

-- of the game. But as you're coming down

2:24

that last hill, and you see the

2:26

car? It's

2:27

a moment. Copy. Both of these are incredibly

2:30

common ways to play the shotgun game. These

2:32

are both very common variants. Yeah. You're

2:34

playing the delta and Omocron version

2:37

of the shotgun

2:38

game here. There

2:39

has to be a really dumb regional version

2:41

of shotgun

2:42

that we are not talking about. And that's what

2:44

I wanna know about. You have to touch the door

2:46

of the car? Touch the door or Yeah. Just whoever

2:48

give it to that. forever. Sure. Yeah.

2:51

Some, like, rude area of the country. You

2:53

have to touch a physical shotgun. You have

2:55

to shoot a gun or something. Just shoot a gun

2:57

while you call shotgun. But we're

2:59

not talking

3:01

about the

3:02

shotgun. Will they I was talking about

3:04

it. It seems like we were talking about. We we

3:06

My friends are. He'll brought

3:08

it up. because he has

3:10

a hack. You have a life hack, Bill.

3:12

Have a life hack, which is Always. If

3:14

you refer to your romantic

3:17

partner as shoddy, you

3:19

you, for free, also get the benefit

3:22

of always

3:23

having the passenger seat be car. But Second

3:25

matter of words, you're only if you're looking at the

3:27

car. Only only if you're looking at the car. You just have to

3:29

constantly call Yeah. Yeah. Only your spouse. That's true.

3:31

Or your brother or your friend's Yeah.

3:33

Yeah. You call your brothers or, you know Yeah. I

3:35

would raise my brothers, you know. Call you just that's

3:38

what that's why I call my brothers Shadi. Yeah.

3:40

Absolutely. they're shorter than you. They're a bunch

3:42

of shorties. And do you is that is that

3:44

your is that your going pet name with your

3:46

with your partner? Is Shadi? Yeah. No.

3:48

No. No. All the time. No. No. No. IIII

3:50

don't think since we don't have a car, III

3:53

once once there was no car involved, they said, alright.

3:55

Drop in that nickname. You're like, I

3:57

I hate to tell you it was actually only calling

3:59

you that. It

3:59

was kind of this life hack I had.

4:02

It was an efficiency thing. I

4:04

don't like the back seat. I get Carson.

4:09

And

4:09

you're dating the successful singer show I

4:11

love it. There's just two of you, but she was making

4:13

me sit in backseat. That's really good.

4:15

Yeah. You

4:17

have to no. That's how it works. If you don't call

4:19

Shadi, then you have to sit in the back seat

4:21

in the back. That's the other part. It's a

4:23

messed up regionalism. That is a messed up

4:25

regionalism. But

4:27

there's only one better place

4:29

than the streets. The hard streets in New York.

4:31

Right. to talk about Shadi. Mhmm. And

4:33

that's in the ISOM replay.

4:36

Yeah. That's what we're here to talk about today.

4:39

I asked replay. Let's

4:40

punch it. We don't punch up

4:42

the jam.

4:57

Welcome to the podcast. Thank

5:00

you. Phil Jamieson is here. We're huge

5:02

fans of your YouTube videos. Thank you.

5:05

Go check them out if you haven't already. Where where should

5:07

they look at them though? Well,

5:09

I'm everywhere is Phil Jamieson, JAMESS0N

5:13

Double s. I love to see it. Double s. Would you

5:15

describe your videos

5:17

to to a a newbie? I

5:19

would say it's a sketch comedy. It's

5:21

it's pretty it's pretty down the middle sketch comedy.

5:24

I I had uploaded YouTube

5:27

videos when I was thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,

5:29

and I I learned that, like, format

5:32

where you play every character, you know. Yeah. That

5:34

that Not very popular on TikTok. It's very

5:36

popular now. Very popular now. Come back around.

5:38

You were doing it when it was popular. was doing it

5:40

before when it became unpopular. Yeah. Actually,

5:42

yeah. For a long period you were doing, well, it

5:44

was incredibly unpopular. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

5:46

And and many people said this will

5:48

never be popular again because of you.

5:52

But now we we made it through to

5:54

the other side. and and that's

5:56

what we're doing. And now the cool thing is now

5:58

it'll never be unpopular again. It'll

5:59

stay -- Mhmm. -- the trend and

6:02

not change. I found that about

6:04

fashion and style that everything stays

6:06

the same. The

6:10

way as long as possible. So, Phil, you

6:12

said you said it's a couple of options for

6:15

songs this week. Yeah. It was, like, what

6:17

popped for us

6:18

with your list? It was

6:19

a song I love.

6:21

Yeah. Yeah. I like the song.

6:24

You always like it. So here's the thing.

6:26

I I enjoy the song. When I'm

6:28

listening to it, I

6:31

end up singing it. I also just fear

6:33

this song because I'm it's

6:35

going to be stuck in my head for

6:37

the rest of the season. Well, that's in the title. Yeah.

6:40

I ask replay. It

6:42

it it I don't know if it's a subliminal thing

6:44

also. Yeah. But

6:46

it's gonna be there. It's dangerously

6:48

catchy. It's lethally catchy.

6:50

It's it's one of the catchiest.

6:53

One of the catchiest songs. that

6:55

I can think of. So are you saying

6:58

correct me

6:58

if I'm going on a limb here, but are you saying that

7:00

the song is too catchy? because

7:02

you're saying you like it. Mhmm. But you're saying it's

7:04

dangerous. I think I think may I think

7:06

you might be right. I think the reason

7:09

that I temper the amount that

7:11

I say that I like the song is because it's

7:13

too catchy. It's actually a drawback for Like

7:15

if it was ten percent less catchy, you'd be I

7:18

love this. It might might it might

7:20

be like that because I was able to experience

7:22

joy while I listened to it, and then I set it aside,

7:24

I went about my life. I'm not trapped in this

7:26

prison of IS. exactly. And

7:28

and also who's singing the song

7:31

when it's not playing? Me. You

7:33

don't want that. You want IS

7:35

singing the song. That's the point.

7:37

Well, that's why he did it.

7:40

Well, and for better and for worse for IS,

7:42

this is the song he will be singing, I

7:44

think, for the the rest of his days.

7:46

This is a little That's a wonderful Yeah. Yeah.

7:49

You know, like, if if you book

7:51

I asked for a private party, or

7:54

he's or he's performing at a at a

7:56

at a county fair and picking those kind of depressing

7:58

events because -- Yeah. -- not had a

8:00

a lot of success releasing more albums.

8:02

This is in the peak of the career. It's like three. It's

8:04

he's one of those artists who's like, well, you have to

8:06

do replay. If you don't do a replay, we're not

8:08

Yeah. We're not There is no reason for you to be here.

8:10

There's no reason for you at the Iowa State Fair. Yeah. Which,

8:12

I mean, it didn't seem like what

8:14

the trajectory of his career was gonna be in.

8:16

Yeah. He does nine. This is his first hit. It's

8:18

an enormous hit. It's, you

8:21

know, almost tops the charts. Almost goes to

8:23

number one as a debut hit, only blocked

8:25

by Kash's TikTok. which is just like

8:27

an enormous hit. Yeah. He's discovered

8:30

by Sean Kingston, who's

8:32

like, he just had all these hits, you know,

8:34

he had the beautiful girls. in

8:36

all those other heads, they're both from the

8:38

community. I didn't realize that. I didn't realize that. And

8:40

now that you mentioned it, yeah, that

8:42

makes a lot of sense. So Sean

8:44

Kingston is reaching down offering I as a

8:46

handup -- Yes. -- as his fellow

8:48

Caribbean singer. They're both

8:50

from the Caribbean. And there's like I think

8:52

a little bit of a almost like

8:54

music label Ponzi scheme

8:56

happening where Sean Kingston is signed

8:58

to this one record label But at this

9:00

point, he's had so much success. He started

9:02

his own record label. Under

9:04

the record label, it's really under no The

9:06

best thing dolls And then, like, Sean

9:08

Kingston is signing I asked his record label, but

9:10

it's, like, of course, everybody -- Yeah. -- chain

9:12

is getting a piece. But is it Sean

9:14

Kingston himself like on like an

9:16

Aecon imprint or something like that?

9:18

He's on a imprint.

9:21

I I believe I have this right called

9:23

Beluga Heights. Beluga

9:25

Heights. That's the first time ever again.

9:27

They just have a

9:29

huge, like, four to five years around

9:31

this time. where they're putting out Sean Kingston, they're

9:33

putting out

9:34

Ayaz, and they're putting out I think the person with

9:36

probably the most lasting power, Jason

9:37

Drulo. Yeah. They're still

9:40

with us. They produce you

9:42

know, what you say, the song that, like, is

9:44

that a Jason Druelless song or is that an

9:46

imaging a song, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. But

9:48

anytime you hear in a song, Yeah.

9:52

Okay. That's that's true. Your impression

9:54

of it. Your impression of it is really

9:57

It actually

9:59

is bringing back a a sense memory

10:01

of a very strong impression. That

10:03

is the producer JR

10:05

Rodam from Lugahites. It's really

10:07

like his thing. His last name is ROADM, I

10:09

believe so. He and he wrote

10:11

them. Oh my god.

10:13

Yes. Andrew, are you just

10:15

realizing that that's a student in them? He was

10:17

just writing them. JR wrote them.

10:19

Yeah. That you wanna know that every

10:21

song all these hits. This list of hits right

10:23

here, these are the items. I ride them and

10:25

then I rode them. He should have been a

10:27

Nashville hit writer. He definitely doesn't

10:29

talk like He doesn't. He's recycling. He definitely does not talk

10:31

very good. And he and he

10:33

was, like, a hitmaker for, you know, on, like,

10:35

an extraordinary level where he's right -- Yeah. --

10:37

for a lot of people

10:38

that are not under the blue guy's

10:40

label, but then, like, has, like, this five or

10:43

six years where he's really hitting with the blue guy's,

10:45

with Jurulo. and Sean Kingston who

10:47

also becomes like a little one hit wondery,

10:49

but maybe less than I asked. He had

10:51

beautiful girls. He had fire

10:53

burning. Yeah. Shorty five. Oh, he hasn't really

10:55

bad accent. cool. He's he almost

10:57

dies in a in a

11:00

are those things that are loud that you ride on the

11:02

water, like a motorcycle? roller coasters.

11:05

Yes. He almost dies in a roller coaster

11:07

accident. And ATB,

11:09

it's hard hard for him to come a water

11:11

ATV? Yes. The water ATV

11:13

is called a Jeske. He almost died in a Jeske

11:15

accident. Jeske? Living his Miami life. No,

11:17

Evan. That's horrible. But how

11:19

supremely Caribbean of him? I'm gonna this Absolutely

11:22

gonna play this segment bumper because

11:24

I made it. Soul facts.

11:26

These are Soul facts,

11:28

guys. Come on. I'm gonna hate you.

11:30

with

11:30

another bumper of him. And it's for your

11:33

least favorite segment on the show. A

11:35

little segment we like to call

11:37

five dollars. Can you get

11:39

five dollars? This segment,

11:41

I tried to do every week of Evan. I'm probably

11:43

batting eight hundred. We maybe do this four

11:45

out of five

11:47

shows where I ask Evan a piece of trivia

11:49

about the It's

11:51

a piece of trivia. Hopefully, it's not too

11:53

hard. often about the song in fashion. Often

11:56

it's about some dumb thing in Andrew's mind --

11:58

Yeah. -- that he thinks is connected and is not

12:00

-- Can't

12:00

you got it. The last time we recorded

12:02

it, you got you were able to

12:04

correct me guess. I have a very bad track

12:07

record. That Luther Van Dross

12:09

is

12:09

singing background vocals on

12:11

David Bowie's. album,

12:13

which was a really good gift. That's a very good

12:15

gift. That's a very good gift. That's a very good gift.

12:17

Thank you for celebrating my I mean, I gave you

12:19

a couple of clothes. But That's

12:23

a tough question for five dollars.

12:25

That's a that's a house. Yeah. Four or five dollars.

12:27

Wait a window. Is fill in

12:29

on this don't know what to do with the with the guesses.

12:31

Phil, have a shot of five bucks here? Yes,

12:33

sir. But not it's not cooperative. You can't split the

12:35

five dollars. You're Okay. Kevin's competitor.

12:37

Probably. Kevin's competitor. Wow.

12:40

How did, you know, think

12:41

about the year that that replay came out.

12:43

Think about when beautiful girls is coming

12:45

out. Mhmm.

12:46

How did

12:48

the id

12:49

Sean Kingston reach

12:52

out to Ayaz and get in touch

12:54

with him? to sign him to his record

12:56

label. What was the year? I

12:59

believe that replay comes out in

13:01

two thousand nine. and it's chart

13:03

it's kinda couple years later, beautiful girls has

13:05

got to be Two thousand You don't know what's off my head,

13:07

but it's got to be two thousand six. It's two

13:09

thousand seven. Right? because it's on

13:11

the radio when we were on the tour. Right? Sure. Do

13:13

I lock it? Do I hit a buzzer? At some point in that

13:15

two year span, as Sean Kingston is rocketed a fan,

13:17

he's trying to offer a hand up. He reaches out here's

13:19

a demo, I presume, of some young

13:22

singer from the Virgin

13:24

Islands. I has moved

13:26

to Rhode Island. He's he's from the

13:28

Caribbean. He's moved to Rhode Island. For some

13:30

reason, I'm not sure why it's not

13:32

I've got it. I do not know the answer to this. Do you wanna

13:34

say it in unison just in case? Yes.

13:37

Let's say ours at the same time. So we both

13:39

have a shot. Right? Right. 3321

13:42

My space.

13:43

Oh. Oh,

13:47

I've nailed it. But, unfortunately,

13:49

we sent our we sent our minds back

13:51

there. We felt what it was like. We felt in

13:53

the mid odds. Unfortunately, because of the rules of

13:55

the game, neither of you are gonna get five dollars because I

13:57

still I'll definitely set your competitors. What? Set

13:59

your competitors and you cooperated.

14:01

That's Yeah. You send us two fifty thousand new two

14:03

fifty each. Yeah.

14:06

But it was myspace. Sean Kingston.

14:08

correctly assess. Correctly assess. People like me.

14:10

Right. They will like IS. People lot of loved,

14:13

beautiful girls will love

14:15

replay. Mhmm. He was right. I love

14:17

beautiful girls and I like

14:19

replay. Is it

14:21

because beautiful girls are stuck in your head? It's stuck

14:23

in my head less. Yes. Yeah. Because

14:25

of the bad news. love to hear it when it comes on. I'm always

14:27

happy about it. I get stuck in your head a little less because

14:29

of the the themes about suicide. Yeah.

14:31

I was like, I wanna get this out. You work a

14:33

little hard to get it. I I did forget about those

14:35

lyrics. What I said I loved it, emphatically,

14:37

just now. You put that you you put

14:39

But I'm able to put it this out. in the song.

14:42

beautiful girls by Sean Kingston. I did this

14:44

this week because I was reading my eyes. I was

14:46

like, beautiful girls, I wanna put myself

14:48

in a great mood. Yeah. I'll put

14:50

that on. Yeah. The next thing you know.

14:52

Sue is sorry. Yeah. Sue

14:54

is sorry. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I'm gonna

14:56

put replay back on. It's just written by a

14:58

child who doesn't really know what the stakes are. So Yeah.

15:00

He just thought it was funny. I love

15:02

beautiful girls because it's just blatantly by

15:04

a child. back in ninety nine

15:06

watching movies all the time. That's

15:08

when I went away for doing

15:10

my first crime. event

15:12

in Michael and I had a very, very long running

15:15

bit that the crime he did

15:17

was watching the movies. That was those

15:19

things we tied together It's a line

15:21

wire situation. Yeah. We eventually came up

15:23

with a I'm just I'll see if I can

15:25

remember the top the top of my head when ever it came on

15:27

the radio and we were together, we would sing and need

15:29

this in. It was back in

15:31

ninety nine, watching movies, all the type

15:33

of ads when I went away

15:35

for doing my first crime.

15:38

I said forever. forever. Independence

15:42

Day and Armageddon. How

15:45

could I have known that they had copyright

15:47

brought action. Yeah. We don't you don't run

15:49

a whole alternate verse. We punch up the

15:51

song basically to correctly assess

15:54

shonkington's crimes. sound DVDs

15:56

on on on the We're talking about the wrong

15:58

song of this episode. We gotta save this for a beautiful

16:00

girls episode. We will definitely punch it up

16:02

with movies about We've got material on We

16:04

tell the truth. We explode the dangerous truth

16:06

about Sean Kingston and his crimes. One

16:08

last riveting. In fact about Sean Kingston, because he

16:10

didn't help write the song. A lot of

16:12

writers on the song, Kingston, I

16:14

think Derulo helped write the song, of

16:16

course, who who helped JRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRA

16:23

songwriting duo. Like, there's a lot of writers on the song.

16:25

They're called Good. I love a pop song

16:27

written by Committee. r. Great. And

16:29

they have they have the real sting power.

16:31

If you look up our city -- Mhmm.

16:33

-- this producing duo that's that

16:35

our brothers from the Virgin Islands. I mean, they've worked

16:37

with, like, Charlie XZX usher,

16:40

j lo, Beyonce, Lizzo,

16:42

like, they're they're crushing it.

16:44

But they're all in the studio

16:46

making this song that can never be out

16:48

of Phil's head. Yep. And then he made us put back

16:50

in his head today. I wish I was there. I

16:52

wish I was in that recording studio

16:54

with, like, all these buddies that are, like,

16:56

on their way up. Their career is just starting and

16:58

one of them in that room that day. had

17:00

the brilliant idea. What if this song was about

17:02

an iPod? It is a

17:05

it is a critical lyric in

17:07

the song. It is one

17:09

of the lines that has repeated the most. It's in

17:11

the chorus. Mhmm. Hey, guys. Did you guys just

17:14

see Steve Jobs presentation? Do

17:16

you guys just see the Apple keynote?

17:18

oh my god. To

17:21

tech, you don't wanna put your tech in your side.

17:23

It's not gonna be it's not gonna be a wheel anymore. It's

17:25

gonna be a touchscreen. I

17:27

mean, they're still gonna produce the wheel iPad forever. That's not

17:29

going away. But there's gonna be a

17:31

touch screen one too with one twenty eight GBs,

17:34

and everyone will prefer it.

17:36

Wait a

17:39

minute. Did you

17:41

just say,

17:42

iPod the beat

17:43

spins up.

17:50

be singing like, nah, nah, nah, nah,

17:52

every day. I'm

17:54

just gonna have deposits,

17:56

and there's so much to talk about on

17:58

this song. I hope I'm not pausing

17:59

it too much, but just the

18:02

fact that the song starts on

18:04

re Like, it's a record winding

18:06

up and sort of pretending that this beat

18:08

has just been going on forever, you know, that just

18:10

stops. It was how how yeah. It's how Ipods

18:12

work too. It's the matter. Press the button.

18:14

It goes, what? Nope. It's not how

18:16

they work. iPads are filled with

18:19

digital files. They don't have to come up to

18:21

speed. Now they start small and they grow as the

18:23

song plays too. iPod gets

18:25

bigger. The iPad itself. That was the sound though. That

18:27

was the sound of enlarging. Yeah. The enlarging.

18:29

Yeah. When it's tiny, good.

18:31

into the iPad actually

18:34

through. And then when the iPad turns on,

18:36

when it's finally on, you know what noise

18:38

you hear? Jadadadjail

18:42

or her driver. odds on.

18:45

Shadi is like a wait. Is she like a

18:47

memory or a melody? Melody. She's

18:49

like a melody in my head. because

18:51

you can't get the Shadi, Adam said.

18:53

Yeah. She's so catchy. Yeah. Yeah. I

18:54

love it. She's like a song. He's always thinking about it.

18:57

Yeah. Comparing Comparing people to songs, always

18:59

great in songs. I don't think we're

19:00

they were Yeah.

19:03

You don't like

19:04

it. Oh, really? Yeah. That

19:06

seemed like that seemed like an -- Not strongly

19:08

held opinion to me too. What's that?

19:10

It's just like yeah. It's

19:12

like an immediate negative sound.

19:15

it's just a little too self referential for me. I

19:17

would I would rather say but

19:19

I I don't know.

19:20

It it kinda in this song, I think it I

19:22

would say it generally, it doesn't work.

19:24

for me. In this song specifically, it works for me

19:27

because he's talking about the

19:29

metaphor so strong throughout the whole song --

19:31

Mhmm. --

19:31

which is like -- Yeah. which is like, you're

19:33

stuck in my head, like a song, get stuck in my

19:35

head, so it's fine. I find that usually in

19:37

songs, it's like a lazy third verse thing.

19:39

which like, I'm sitting here at my table,

19:42

writing this song about you.

19:44

Yeah. I think that's like You

19:46

just got writing yourself and you're writing about your life.

19:48

Yeah. I once had a mentor tell me, like, whenever

19:50

you find yourself about just, like, say

19:53

that, just change it

19:54

to a letter. say you're

19:55

writing them a letter. Mhmm. Mhmm. That's something everyone does.

19:57

Yeah. A song is, like, is very,

19:59

like

19:59

why Wait. That's someone

20:00

something everyone does. Yes.

20:02

Every everyone writes that. I wrote

20:05

you I wrote you in text. This name was seven

20:07

years old. This name was seven years old in

20:09

two thousand ten. Right. Right. Right. I

20:11

guess to generalize my pet peeve

20:13

that's in the same lane is when

20:15

the song starts with or verse

20:17

starts with, I woke up this morning. is,

20:18

like, just delete that line right

20:21

out of the song and get to whatever. God

20:23

damn it. You just got rude stuck in my

20:25

head again. Yeah. They did it. But a

20:27

million songwriters to be so rude because the

20:29

songwriters arriving with no ideas and they're like,

20:31

okay, what did I do? What? I work on this

20:33

morning every day. What happens And it's

20:35

the first so it doesn't have to rhyme, so they don't

20:37

have to worry about mourning. Because next the

20:39

next line is gonna be the rhyme and mine. Yes.

20:41

Exactly. It's the most bone in

20:43

lyric that exists in so many songs because

20:45

it's just like nothing was in my head and I'm

20:47

just thinking back like, yeah, what did I do

20:49

today? Why I woke up? Single

20:51

exception to that. first song

20:53

on John Prine's first album. When I

20:55

woke up this morning At least he said when? Yeah.

20:57

These these things are looking bad. Things are

21:00

bad. Yeah. Sometimes delivery

21:02

makes it like a parody of it to me.

21:04

Yeah. I love that song.

21:05

Yeah. I don't know. If I

21:07

have to listen to a lot of sad boys. songs

21:09

that are like, well, we'll go this mod.

21:11

Some coming

21:12

through my window. Turn it right off the bat.

21:14

Well, let's we we should work on a Spotify playlist.

21:16

Just every song that starts

21:18

with the words

21:18

when I woke up this morning. Mhmm. We're talking to

21:20

that. Yeah. But it's not this song. because

21:22

this song

21:22

goes like this. Yeah. We'll crowdsource

21:24

that one later.

21:33

There it

21:37

is.

21:37

He wrote him. He

21:39

wrote him. There's

21:42

JR. Yeah. It's just a watermark. on the

21:44

song. You know, the same as like a

21:46

Shutterstock thing across the

21:48

image. Yeah. You know where the thing

21:50

came from no matter where you port this

21:52

song to that JJ R. Once you hear it, and once you

21:54

know that it's JR. Todum's Bluegei's

21:57

watermark -- Yeah. -- you start

21:58

to hear it even more. Like,

21:59

in the in the DeRulo songs,

22:02

that I

22:02

was listening to before this episode in the Sean

22:05

Kingston songs, you're just like JR Rotem could

22:07

not help himself. Right. But he

22:09

also gave the technique too. Jason DeRullo. Do you think do you

22:11

think he gave the technique to Jason DeRullo

22:13

or vice versa? always says that

22:15

he's deRullo. Yeah. You always wanna announce

22:17

yourself when you arrive on the

22:19

track. Yeah. Jason

22:20

DeRillo. And it's

22:22

it's it's a watermark. It's his. him.

22:25

There's every every What of every What of every So

22:27

what about you said? There's, like, seven writers

22:29

on the song. They're all doing it. Yeah. What's

22:31

the name? I've just picked up the Jason Drula. Can

22:33

Jason Drula stop him? You know, I put

22:35

out a song just with a Jason

22:38

Drula. just right at the top. Yeah. And everyone would

22:39

think, yeah, everyone your voice sounds identical to

22:41

him, by the way. Yeah. Your voice

22:43

sounds exactly like Tarula.

22:46

Yeah. And so it's like John Hancock, you know,

22:48

just

22:48

broadcasting, like, I don't want anybody forget

22:51

that I was here. Yeah. Make

22:53

no mistake about it. And you

22:55

could say, can I get your John Hancock

22:57

on this? So you could do that for songs too.

22:59

Can I get your Jason DeRillo on this?

23:01

I wanna do some historical reading about John

23:03

Hancock. I feel like the guy's got a bum wrap. I feel like he was probably the

23:05

it's like writing a check. You go to write the

23:07

dollar amount. And you're like, oh, I'll start right here

23:09

with, you know, eighty three dollars and seventy two

23:12

cents. and then you get to like the t three and you're like,

23:14

goddamn. Yeah. I didn't start all the way on the

23:16

left. Now the t is by the since

23:18

box and I don't know enough room. Man. I feel like John Hanks

23:20

got probably signed first, and he was like, this

23:22

is a big ass piece paper. I'll just write my name a

23:24

normal size. Oh, he's not wrong. Yeah. He he was

23:26

there early when there were only, like, four

23:28

people the ring. Signing. It was a show. Only four of us. A hundred

23:30

people are signing. They're having to get smaller and smaller.

23:32

A bunch of bandwag on yours. They got

23:35

their late. Yeah. It's like and

23:37

John Hickman was probably feeling terrible. He was

23:39

like, oh, sorry, guys. Like, we

23:41

should've done this in a Excel spreadsheet.

23:43

and then everyone would have known how much room they had for

23:45

their name. Yeah. Grab this out.

23:47

On graph paper, I know they didn't have Excel. Just

23:49

do it on graph paper. Yeah. Also,

23:53

just the the low loops of the j

23:55

getting down. It, like, takes up the

23:57

whole line below. Did you

23:59

guys

23:59

know that another signer of the declaration

24:02

of independence was actually Jason

24:04

Drulo. The first

24:06

time we met you was at the moment

24:08

with Joe Friend. I

24:10

was scared that

24:17

we will ever be more different.

24:21

Okay.

24:26

what do we need to recap here? What do I

24:28

mean, what I love about this song and

24:31

why I think I might like it more

24:33

than beautiful girls, which is shocking

24:35

me. Wow. I would have assumed I like people girls more

24:37

than this before this week when I say you're trying to

24:39

compare apples to apples here. This is just

24:41

so as such

24:42

pure PG energy.

24:46

Extreme It's like a few frames. took them

24:48

all. Like, I was ruined by the wall because I

24:50

don't think I saw you. Yeah. Yeah. instead

24:52

of I went to jail, I

24:54

got out, you broke up me, and now I'm

24:56

going to kill myself. You're right. Just

24:58

utter utter posturing. extreme hyperbole

25:01

and and fiction. Yeah. This is pulled

25:03

straight from an eighth grader's life.

25:05

Yeah. I saw the acuity by

25:07

the Panda Express. Like, you're a group

25:09

of guy friends to go to the mall, to

25:12

just walk around. So maybe you'll see your

25:14

crush with her, group of friends at

25:16

the mall, Right? And can some and

25:18

some friction happens between your two

25:20

groups? Yep. Yeah. Good

25:21

friction. Yeah. It's so real. I'll

25:23

just

25:23

say, musically, the

25:26

thing is really catchy as Phil

25:28

has already outlined. Why is it catchy?

25:30

Why is it catchy?

25:33

One of the

25:33

key clues here is that this is

25:36

one of the supreme odds examples

25:38

of a chord progression

25:40

that is in almost every

25:42

song. It's so common.

25:45

in top forty music, whether it's

25:47

rock or, you know,

25:49

dance driven

25:50

music, your cashier or whatever is

25:53

using this you know, the the same

25:55

progressions. If if

25:57

you took the chords in this

25:59

song, which are

25:59

only four chords, the

26:08

whole song is over those for You

26:11

know, if I if I roll it back through the

26:13

verse or or back through the versely, in Cors

26:15

or over that. Yep. That's

26:20

the same

26:22

as the Chorus. Whatever.

26:25

if I if I run it back to the chorus just to

26:27

do this detective work as the

26:34

baseline is moving the same direction. The first and the course is the

26:36

is the same progression. Right? Those those

26:38

are the same chords. And if you

26:40

put them together, you started on a

26:42

different one, you might get a different variation. But

26:45

you would

26:45

hear, like, Lady Gaga,

26:48

paparazzi, For

26:49

example, Barbie Girl we talked about on the show is the same four

26:52

chords.

26:52

Right. Aca Acons

26:55

using those four chords and, like,

26:59

Why

26:59

didn't you write it for? What, you know, other songs

27:01

talking about the podcast.

27:02

Africa is like classic example of, you know,

27:05

the rains down in Africa.

27:07

It's like

27:16

a hack. It's like a hack where if you

27:18

put the that pattern in,

27:20

it dials into the human

27:22

it goes

27:22

right to the animal brain system. What is it even?

27:24

Or is that one If you're numbering

27:26

them, like, if I'm doing shorthand in the studio with a

27:28

bunch of other players, I would say this is

27:30

64156415

27:32

So the relative -- Mhmm. -- minor

27:35

the one. six -- Yeah. --

27:37

4151

27:38

is the right I'd say this is the key of the

27:40

song, so you call that the one. Yeah. You start

27:42

on six. That's on before. Yes. If you're if you're numbers

27:44

are referring to, like, the scale degree of

27:46

that the court sits on. So if you know a little music, but

27:48

don't know the the numbers and you're playing in the key

27:50

of c, that'd be, like, a minor,

27:54

f, the four chord. Yep. c,

27:56

the one chord, g, the

27:58

five chord, and that's the one that you maybe put a

27:59

seven in, so it resolves to one.

28:02

Right. I'm trying to steal a

28:04

live music theory, Sean,

28:07

from him. Hey, Soul

28:09

Sister on the

28:10

radio. There's probably there's

28:12

like five different maroon five songs

28:14

that have this yeah, it's

28:16

progression. It's like a little bit of a hack

28:18

that if you don't know where

28:20

to start writing the song, just start with

28:22

this and you're gonna get a that catching a

28:24

shine is gonna happen. For your I already have

28:26

the cords. You

28:27

ride them, and then you rode them, and

28:29

then JJR

28:31

You're the BMI songwriter and producer of

28:33

the year. Nice thing. You know you got a bunch of songs

28:35

and you wrote them. Yes.

28:38

Okay. The

28:39

girl looks like

28:41

something off a poster. She's a

28:43

dime, they say. That

28:47

one. I don't know about that one. Yeah. So if we're

28:49

talking PBS, PG,

28:52

that girl is the gun to my

28:54

holster. Mhmm. I

28:55

it it is we're we're we're pushing it.

28:58

You think visually, it's a little too horny?

29:00

Yeah. Well, there's there's well, I think that's

29:02

if he were the gun. Right? That's the that's

29:04

like We're perfect man. I think It's like the

29:06

gun she's the gun to his holster. Yeah. Yeah.

29:08

It's not about it's not about his penis going in her

29:10

vagina because then she'd be the gun to her penis. No.

29:12

It's it's like could have thought I'm a better

29:14

pair. They could have said, I'm the bubble to your

29:17

gum. I'm the bubble to your coaster.

29:19

You you really The the real problem they've written

29:21

themselves into here is that they have the one idea

29:23

about, like, this girl's really hot.

29:25

Yeah. Therefore, I would see her on a poster.

29:27

They have that idea. They -- Yeah. -- they

29:29

wrote that down and then instead of

29:31

changing it, felt like they're stuck with having a ride. But with Holster,

29:33

it's like a they're off it's like an unnecessary

29:35

ride. Unnecessary ride. Is it a little

29:37

less PGS? But when you I

29:39

when when I think about it in the context

29:41

of, like, beautiful girls is talking about suicide.

29:43

Oh, she was talking about -- Yeah. -- you're winding

29:45

and grinding -- Yeah. -- down on the floor.

29:48

Yeah. talking about,

29:50

you know, going to the club, looking at

29:52

strippers and his songs. Yeah. And then you

29:54

got the existence of a There's the other ones we

29:57

oh, of course. the song we all already talked about

29:59

earlier today. Sexy day. bitch. Mhmm.

30:01

My account, it's like, what's not PG

30:03

about? You get

30:05

one bitch in a PG song.

30:07

Right? You

30:08

won. Not in the car. one.

30:11

Yeah. You don't get twenty eight. Gund

30:13

to holster starts to Gund

30:15

to my holster. Yeah. It's it's almost like an outfit at that

30:17

point in time. It's almost like I'm a cowboy. I'm

30:20

putting the little little daddy girls together.

30:22

You're in the mall. Yeah. Are

30:24

they

30:24

at the old

30:26

timey

30:26

photo store in the mall? Yeah. Or,

30:28

like, Spencer gifts. Spencer's gifts

30:31

would have, like, one of those plastic

30:33

pistols that you shoot at

30:35

the, like, cans and make them pop off of

30:37

a log. It could be a cute way to

30:39

be flirting with your eighth grade crush

30:42

to you know, dress up like cowboys and get like a

30:44

fake pin type picture taken of you.

30:46

Yeah. I think that's probably what he

30:48

was doing. It's definitely what happened. It's probably

30:50

the plot of the song. So

30:53

she's she's so hotching beyond a poster.

30:56

She's

30:56

a dime, they say. Feels a little

30:58

awkward to me because he

31:00

just saw her. Like, can he verify whether or not she's a

31:03

dime? I think he's saying she

31:05

is. Yeah. That's like that's just a a

31:07

they needed a dime.

31:08

Yeah. That's the the reverse.

31:11

It's it's the first part to all

31:13

day. That's definitely they he he

31:15

didn't wanna write they say in that

31:17

line. Yeah. Yeah. yeah She's

31:19

just a dying period. It's well established that we're talking

31:21

about a hot chick that you can't stop thinking

31:24

about. Right. Jivey

31:25

is like a melody, She's

31:28

got me singing

31:31

like Nana Nana

31:32

Nana Nana Nana. She is exactly

31:34

as sketchy as Nana. And

31:45

that's and that's that's

31:47

it. I using the vocal sampling to

31:49

be say that you're stuck in this month. Yeah.

31:51

Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. We haven't

31:54

gotten too deep in that

31:56

technique by the time this song is coming out

31:58

to twenty ten

31:59

compared to, like, I don't know, it was a few

32:01

years later that just

32:03

another big hit that that comes to

32:05

mind is that Calvin Harris, Rihanna do

32:08

what? And he's looking at you.

32:10

You. You. You. You. You. Oh, yeah.

32:14

You. You know, that that whole thing

32:16

that the whole chorus is really catchy

32:18

and just also using that same chord

32:20

progression. just call that out. I didn't even think of

32:22

that before. But it's like, the

32:24

catchiness is premised off of doing the

32:26

vocal chops.

32:27

And just sounds really fresh in the way that auto tune

32:29

sounded fresh in in two thousand five. Yeah. There's,

32:31

like, early example of that or just, like, play. Bye.

32:34

Bye. Bye. Bye. like

32:36

repeating that adds to the

32:38

catchiness. Right? It's really fun, invokes the

32:40

iPad. And and it's it's it's the

32:42

magic. It's in, like, the Music is matching the

32:44

metaphor in a way that is very pleasing to me. I

32:46

do have a question. Mhmm. No. No.

32:48

No. No. No. No. No. Yeah. His iPad stuck on a

32:50

replay. Yeah. The non on an i is coming from

32:52

his iPad. in my

32:53

reading of the song. That What's

32:55

he

32:55

listening to? Like a melody. What?

32:58

I think he's just making an example. Yeah.

33:00

I know. I think he's just He's

33:03

just generating example. He's conversationally saying like, this

33:05

shoddy is like a melody. She is

33:07

stuck in my head. You know what's an example of a

33:09

melody? Let me tell you. You know what

33:11

melodies are? Here. Here's an example

33:13

that I just came up with. I'm a professional singer from the Caribbean,

33:15

and an example of a melody is,

33:19

who were just talking about Evan, a couple

33:21

episodes back,

33:22

is so infamous for being the Nana guy

33:24

that he almost trademarked. No. No.

33:26

No. No.

33:27

No. Earl I think Ayaz I think

33:29

Ayaz just cranking Van Morrison.

33:32

What? I think Ayaz is just like

33:34

cranking a brown eyed girl cranking

33:37

cranking caravan. No.

33:39

No. No. No. No.

33:40

No. Just because Europe's van Morrison

33:43

has doesn't mean what I, as probably born in the

33:45

late nineties in the Caribbean, knows anything

33:47

about Rand Morrison. I'm going back to his

33:49

thumbnail. In other

33:51

band, Glow, once did you leave

33:53

my mind? We talked

33:55

on the floor from nighttime on.

33:57

Gonna really change my life.

33:59

Doing things. I never do.

34:02

In the kitchen cooking thing she likes.

34:04

We're pretty. Thanks. Gigi, my

34:06

best. Gigi. That's a oh, this is

34:08

so beautiful. This is heartwarming. This is really amazing.

34:11

like that, Eric. The more we get into the

34:13

song, the more my heart is warm thinking

34:15

about this little eighth

34:18

grader. learning to cook scrambled eggs. You know, with the cheddar cheese on

34:20

it. You mean this New England Institute of Technology

34:24

Student. So

34:28

you're saying he probably met the girl

34:30

at, like, a Rhode Island subgroup in mind. I'm the

34:32

one who makes the metaphor. I always talk about eighth

34:34

graders at the mall. Are

34:35

able to listen to this? and

34:37

their parents are like, mm-mm, this is a

34:39

great wholesome song for Johnny to listen to.

34:41

Yeah. But Ayaz is still having a

34:43

similar emotional experience in Rhode

34:45

Island going to the mall. to the Ocean State

34:47

job lot and, you know,

34:50

shop shopping around and hanging out while he's on

34:54

a break. you got me doing things I do

34:56

like cooking things that she likes.

34:58

Oh, that's really sweet.

35:00

It's

35:02

so sweet. She learned to cook for her. That's nice.

35:04

That's nice. I asked. And

35:05

not just he didn't just learn to

35:07

cook. I think she

35:09

likes. she likes. He already knew how to speak English he

35:11

made that for. Yeah. On, like, their fifth date. And then,

35:13

like, on their tenth date, she was,

35:16

like, actually, don't even like

35:18

spaghetti meatballs. And he's just like,

35:20

what do you

35:20

like? Mhmm. And I will

35:22

make that. Yeah. Whereas his last girlfriend also

35:25

did not like spaghetti and meatballs, but he just kept making

35:27

spaghetti and everything. Absolutely.

35:30

I only I only cook that.

35:34

That's that's the only thing he's up for.

35:36

No. He's he's going to to the

35:38

ocean state job lot and just buying

35:40

every OXO cooking tool on

35:42

the wall. he's like, I must please

35:44

this girl. I'm in a Julian. I'm getting the good grips. Yeah. A hundred

35:46

percent. Yeah. Getting the good grips.

35:50

Yeah. I'm trying

35:50

the pre marinated pork tenderloin. Absolutely. What else do

35:52

we know about his dating life? Someday I

35:55

wanna make

35:56

you Moa

35:59

they

36:06

Well, something about these sims feel really period too, just

36:08

from the mid odds. It sounds like

36:10

the cataract. We're predicting for fifty. And

36:12

the

36:12

really tight snares in very, very

36:16

two thousand. k. Now

36:22

we've advanced enough.

36:22

We've got some ad lips. Just put me

36:25

in my spot. Yep. This comes on the radio.

36:27

You turn it up. I can

36:30

be on Melody. A

36:32

girl.

36:32

What was the bridge? So there She can be

36:34

his he can be her song. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There,

36:36

I agree with you on the I don't need

36:38

the melody one. Is it the whole song

36:40

is about how she's his melody.

36:42

I don't think he needs to offer to be her mailing. He's the stage. He's already a chef.

36:45

And it is third this is third for oh,

36:47

this is a bridge, but you're the wrong way, though. They

36:49

ran out of idea. They

36:52

get to the bridge, they feel obligated to put in a bridge. Like,

36:54

this is the way we write songs in two

36:56

thousand ten. Right? You must have

36:59

versus choruses and then arrive at a bridge about two thirds of the

37:02

way through. They feel

37:03

obligated, out of ideas, and we're just gonna talk

37:05

about melodies again. I just want them to go

37:08

deep with the cooking stuff. Yeah. Get back

37:10

to

37:10

what's your setup? Techniques you're using.

37:12

You are a pescatarian. Guess

37:14

I'm gonna have to buy some tuna.

37:18

Yeah. you know, a meet their mom their

37:20

javalin, get it to

37:23

the right degrees. this is

37:25

a first draft guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna work more than one

37:27

night on it. Or, you know, more stuff that the

37:30

cooking's the only thing we learn about. These guys you got

37:32

me doing things I

37:34

never do. Yeah.

37:34

You know, like, it could be one million fans. It's a very it's an

37:36

eighth grade song. We're not gonna get some fun stuff in this

37:38

song. Right. Right. It was skydiving. Yeah.

37:42

ATVs. eighty reeves Yeah.

37:44

For example, or other mundane helpful

37:46

things, like getting you a box

37:48

of tissues, like handing

37:51

you things. Yes. It's not a huge ass to ass

37:53

to cook something for your partner. Nobody's trapped in

37:55

this trapped in this melody

37:58

metaphor.

37:59

Yeah.

37:59

He is. Okay.

38:00

And now we kinda got a confused. Gotta twist it around where I

38:03

could be your melody. You're

38:05

already my catchy melody. But

38:07

and also

38:07

the next line is I could write you a

38:10

symphony. So then you're dropping the

38:12

metaphor too. And now we're talking about

38:14

a lateragon. No. You're

38:16

just bragging. You're just talking about

38:18

how you're a good musician now. Yeah. The

38:20

problem is, I'm just gonna be honest,

38:21

he's not gonna write her a symphony. He's

38:24

gonna call up JR. Who's really

38:26

gonna be writing a symphony?

38:28

That's a tearful confession when he asked us

38:30

to look up into Ayaz's sake.

38:32

Ayaz is maybe writing the top line.

38:34

but more likely he's inviting over ten buddies. One of them is lies. Well,

38:37

what do we write a song about? How about the

38:39

I don't know this right here. How

38:41

about the iPad? guys

38:44

wanna couldn't write the song about this. You guys see the Apple keynote

38:47

presentation? Yes. We yeah.

38:49

Good idea, Phil, and then you

38:51

just all the ideas over to JR. Yep. He walks

38:54

away and comes back with a tracking slash. This is to

38:56

me. As I has did it all, Evan.

38:58

Other guys, So Other guys are

39:00

paracent. He's not gonna write this in, but okay.

39:02

What else is he promising in this bridge?

39:04

Comenity, a girl like a

39:05

white juice in for me.

39:07

Violence in

39:10

this example.

39:14

Wow.

39:17

This company

39:20

is getting

39:22

good. And that,

39:25

man. Yeah. Just as a just

39:27

I'm serious about this simply. Did you hear

39:29

you hear the violins? Yeah. This is

39:31

not helping me. already. helping argument. It's already I'm already writing

39:33

you a simple statement. Stick

39:35

with the cooking. That's

39:38

personal. That's nice. You didn't do it with a team of nine

39:40

guys. Yeah. I'm not gonna address

39:42

which guy did the most,

39:43

but just focus on your domestic life and your -- Yeah. -- the domestic

39:46

fun. Yeah. I'll let

39:48

dealer

39:48

dishwasher too.

39:50

Right. Right now? That'll win

39:52

yeah

39:53

over some hearts. right there. We made it out

39:55

of the

39:55

bridge with what I think is kind of like a fun post

39:57

bridge thing was just get right back to the non

40:00

mods. back to the nona Okay?

40:02

You know what? I don't know. I have my doubts about Ayaz

40:04

writing string arrangements or

40:06

woodwinds of brass in a symphony.

40:09

I frankly don't think it's happening. I think it's he's gone

40:11

too far in his brag. You don't think he wrote them? But you

40:13

know what I believe he really can write

40:16

is non us. for sure.

40:17

You think he wrote him. Ayaz wrote him.

40:20

Okay. When it comes to

40:21

Nana's, Ayaz wrote him. Ayaz wrote him.

40:23

When is the Symphony? ROADM ROADM ROADM.

40:25

Yeah. I'm just gonna keep saying ROADM until It's

40:27

a fun. It's a very nice smiles. I yeah.

40:30

It's getting less funny. you

40:33

stick with it about ten more minutes, if you

40:36

stick with it, I I think it's gonna I

40:38

think it's gonna come back. Well, I'm glad I can

40:40

make myself laugh. That

40:42

was

40:44

nice.

40:48

and weren't Never

40:51

be safe.

40:52

singing. Shadi, like, amenity

40:54

and

40:54

Little breakdown. You always shrink the

40:56

track. You cut out the rhythm section. Yeah.

40:59

Through On I

41:01

love the early two

41:03

thousands. Yay. Yeah.

41:06

Yeah. Frank I feel like bringing the JJJJJR

41:08

again here. Just get get me another one.

41:12

Why not?

41:14

a big sub base on the 808 cone up.

41:16

Wow. It's

41:17

fresh. I love it. It's fresh too. It's gonna be

41:20

stuck in your head all day, and that's why

41:22

you're mad. All day

41:24

is a a minimization of what

41:26

I'm gonna suffer for the next It's

41:28

it's We've got easily a

41:30

week. detail we probably didn't want you to inspire you

41:32

to do any nice things for your partner. Are

41:35

you gonna cook them dinner? That that

41:37

dinner may cook or something.

41:39

She likes to Are

41:41

you gonna take any Wild West photos? Yeah. I'll take it a

41:44

holster and use

41:47

her for violence. the gun to my holster,

41:49

it just you know, it's it's a I'm

41:52

gonna kill you with my wife is a little

41:54

bit like I

41:56

mean, we we know that

41:58

that is only in the song

41:59

because It's it's alright. in a row. But if

42:02

you it's a place you just find that if you

42:04

excel for

42:06

a postaster, I She's like a girl from a post week.

42:08

She's like a girl from a movie's

42:10

poster. It's so weak. But if you

42:12

presume that it's

42:14

not just a weak ass

42:15

rhyme and that it's really important to the world of the song,

42:17

then I see it as just eighth

42:19

grade posturing. It's just more evidence

42:21

about the eighth grade

42:24

lifestyle about you know, like, who wants to just, like, brag and macho

42:26

-- Yeah. -- more than a young teenager.

42:28

I mean, III

42:30

think I think if I'm if I'm

42:33

talking about how you actually interpret it. It's it's always by your

42:35

side. Right? Gun in your holster, you always have

42:37

it right on your hip. Yeah. Always right there.

42:40

Yeah. That's

42:42

that's actually Yeah. I was gonna pitch them alts, but you're right. You're right. I didn't wrote

42:44

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42:46

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44:03

two problems with

44:06

this song. barely.

44:08

It's

44:08

Fair. I mean, it's the perfect one. It's not

44:10

I mean, one problem

44:11

is it's too catchy. It's too catchy. It

44:13

gets separated. No. No. No.

44:15

No. No. Yeah. every day. They

44:17

use some hacks to make it catchy. Yeah. Talk about

44:20

iPads. I think there is

44:22

another problem that we didn't talk about

44:24

that much. which

44:26

is

44:26

a a problem that's kind of outside of the song's control --

44:28

Mhmm. -- which is well, there's part

44:30

of it's in in the song's control. Like,

44:33

does the

44:33

song become the hit and the beloved song

44:36

that it is without saying the word iPod? I

44:38

don't think so because that, like, was so two

44:40

thousand nine doesn't Oh, what time? And can we update it? Now you put it on

44:42

and it's Yeah. For any day If

44:44

we if we just change it to, like, I

44:46

accidentally set my Spotify to

44:48

Single Track

44:50

repeat, Yeah. But also, you know,

44:52

I, as is just kind of falling off

44:54

the curveball, but he's not -- Yeah.

44:56

-- doing a

44:57

lot. He hasn't or

44:59

at least an album lately. He's released a couple

45:01

of tracks to his SoundCloud. I'm worried about him.

45:03

We asked ourselves what

45:05

if, of all, we we could do it fill once

45:08

and make the song a

45:10

little less catchy, a little less

45:12

good. Yeah. That would make the

45:14

song better. I would I would appreciate that.

45:16

Yeah. And also, what

45:18

if we could make

45:19

the song be sung buy

45:21

a figure from two thousand nine

45:24

who had more staying power, at least

45:26

one percent more staying power than

45:28

IS. Mhmm. I think

45:28

that that sounds like a recipe for success for me personally. Mhmm.

45:31

Okay. Phil, this week we have

45:33

for you a video punch

45:36

up. And I'm not

45:36

promising our audience. We're gonna do this every

45:38

year. Oh, we're gonna have to go PIP. In this

45:40

we're gonna have to picture picture picture

45:43

picture. Wow. But I'm

45:45

happy to present to you our punch up

45:47

of Ayaz's replay. Mister Speaker, mister

45:52

Vice president.

45:53

Shadi. Hey. Shadi.

45:58

You know this guy is in

45:59

twenty two. Yeah. This guy is staying power.

46:02

Yeah. Yeah. He's

46:04

got, like, Netflix stuff going

46:06

on.

46:28

for something

46:32

greater. It's inspiring

46:34

too. It's not terribly bad.

46:37

with Democrats and republicans? I

46:40

believe he can. We

46:41

must get the economy going here.

46:43

I'm missing the mall a little bit, but I like

46:45

the political unity. but that's

46:47

good that you're missing something from the song. That means

46:50

the song is a little worse, and it's not gonna get

46:52

stuck in the film center. We share

46:53

comment. Oops. Help me. Again,

46:56

this part, not

46:59

as catching

47:00

the Nana Nana.

47:03

We do not second replay still there. You can't. Yeah. So my kitchen

47:05

always works. But the different beliefs, different

47:08

backgrounds, feels not it feels gonna forget

47:10

that. It's not gonna be

47:12

stuck in said. We do not get stuck in the

47:14

replay. Bye bye bye. Thank

47:16

you. God bless you. And may

47:18

God bless the United States

47:20

of America. Shop eighty.

47:22

Subscribe.

47:24

Wow. What is it okay? I I

47:26

do like that we talked about JJR

47:30

today. And even at that point

47:32

in time, you had John

47:34

Vayner doing the same

47:35

with Obama. Oh, oh, wow. Wow.

47:38

Wow. Yeah. He droolowed

47:40

Obama in there. Yeah. Yeah.

47:42

He put his Baluga stamp on there. Yeah. That's

47:44

great. I mean, it's it's that's

47:46

a that's a classic. Yeah. It is it

47:48

is a classic. It's a classic in

47:52

that I mean, Evan and I have to mess up a little bit in that As

47:54

if it's not as if it's not supremely

47:56

obvious Oh, that's supremely obvious. This

47:58

is a video that

47:59

we made. many years ago. Twelve years ago. Many years ago, was

48:02

tickled our funny bone then. We pre punched

48:04

up replay. We pre punched it up. Yeah. And

48:08

when they'll chose

48:10

replay of his

48:10

own accord. We it's not like,

48:12

that would be cheating.

48:13

It'd be cheating if we said Bill,

48:15

we appreciate it. Yeah. I did. And III

48:18

will I'll say it straight to camera. Bill said? I did select this

48:20

as one of the sales. Yes. Wow. Thank you. Yeah. That

48:22

would be the worst kind of virgin energy if

48:24

we showed up today. Do this.

48:27

do replay. But we thought about it. We're like,

48:29

how are we gonna punch this up? And then as we talked about

48:31

it, I I was walking around the block of my house. I was trying

48:33

to get some steps in while I was doing some work. Mhmm. And I was

48:35

like, wait a minute, Evan.

48:37

we already punched

48:39

this song up and

48:41

we already addressed the problem which is

48:43

I isn't isn't famous enough anymore.

48:45

obama is, like, I think hands down one of the

48:47

five most famous people on

48:49

Earth. He's quite

48:50

famous. He is an amazing sting. He did

48:52

he did a lot of work as as

48:55

president. Yeah. So yeah. No. He's he's pretty famous for that.

48:57

Yeah. He does the Spotify list. So you know

48:59

what I mean? He's a podcaster. He's a podcaster.

49:01

He's a really famous go. But he's he's one

49:03

of those people that, like, he would go to a foreign country and then just be sure that you could buy with his face

49:05

on it. Like, that's how famous he has. That is

49:07

a very specific level of fame.

49:10

Yeah. Yep. Yeah.

49:12

Do people

49:12

know about you in the US

49:14

and Indonesia and Botswana? Yeah.

49:16

The answer

49:17

for me is

49:19

no. That would just weird me out. They do

49:21

not. If I, like, landed on a plane in

49:23

Seoul South Korea, went to the market, and there was just

49:26

a shirt. That that would

49:28

be very scary. feel very

49:30

weird. Like, if that happened to Obama -- Yeah. -- he

49:32

would take a picture of it -- Yeah. -- send it to

49:34

his group You know, I don't even know Yeah.

49:36

He'd he'd boast about it. Yeah. I

49:38

think it's it's an everyday. Yeah. He doesn't

49:40

he doesn't even notice it.

49:43

he sees his face so much. He

49:45

doesn't notice his face -- Wow. --

49:47

on t shirts. Yeah. That's a

49:49

level of fame. Yeah. You're right. When you're

49:51

like, yeah, of course. a certain level. Of course, I'm

49:53

here. Of course, I'm in the airport. That's twisted.

49:56

Yeah. Yeah. That could make

49:57

me a little bit sad. Yeah.

49:59

I'm not

49:59

I'm not

49:59

even Yeah. Poor poor Obama. Next

50:02

time I find a Martha's Vineyard. I'm not

50:04

gonna buy one of those famous Martha's Vineyard

50:06

Obama shirts -- Yeah. -- Obama space. Yeah. --

50:08

has been to airport. Just the the champion white t shirt

50:10

with the boss face on it. Yeah. I'm gonna

50:12

cry right into my martini that Richard

50:14

Branson served

50:16

me. So We've come to the end of

50:18

our podcast. Yeah. We've we've played

50:20

you our one hundred percent better

50:22

version of IS'

50:24

replay that I'm confident we'll not get stuck in your head as much as -- Yeah. -- I'm not

50:26

worried about it.

50:28

You know, actually, but but to your point,

50:31

Nana Nana Nana Nana Nana Nana

50:34

Nana Nana Nana Nana Nana Nana

50:36

Nana. We don't change I really do

50:39

think we improve every song we punch up, but this guy this

50:41

is a weird one in that, like, part of our assignment

50:43

really is make it worse. Yeah. So,

50:45

like, to succeed, we have we To

50:48

go forward, you must go back. full assignment. Yeah. Yeah. Very good with rounds. Yeah.

50:50

It's a new challenge every week. You know, you

50:52

you wanna stay Thursday, stay hungry.

50:55

down yourself. You can't be you can't be trapped in the

50:57

strictures of your own of your own rules.

50:59

Yeah. We we made the rules. We

51:02

can pin them. We can Yeah. You can't switch

51:04

up every song by talking about how rude

51:06

the guy is. But there's one rule

51:08

we

51:08

can't break. And that

51:09

is Phil that every week, we end

51:11

the

51:11

podcast with a little segment We like

51:13

to call call Walk

51:15

in music. Walk in

51:18

music. Yeah.

51:19

A little song that you

51:21

would play not a little song, a normal song that you would

51:24

play. While walking into

51:25

a real or fictional scenario,

51:27

maybe you're, you know,

51:30

walking into a

51:32

world series game

51:34

as a as a reliever. They get real walk in

51:36

songs. Right? Yeah. Yeah. You're relieving

51:38

picture you actually feel like, for example. Right. Maybe you're, like, walking your ex's wedding

51:40

to break it up. Right. Right. Right. Maybe just, like,

51:42

the normal, like, I object, or you could be, like,

51:45

hitting somebody with a chair Yeah.

51:47

Or just having a good time at the wedding and

51:49

being supportive. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's that's

51:52

everybody gets real walk in music at

51:54

your own wedding. It'd be very very interesting if

51:56

you had the walk in music at your ex's wedding

51:58

and then just had a good time as a

52:00

nice guest. Yeah. Is there a different amount

52:02

of money that you'd have to the DJ for those two

52:05

different scenarios. I think way yeah. I think

52:07

way lower if you're gonna be nice

52:09

afterwards. Yeah. Yeah. You just you just

52:11

There is a yes. Yeah. You're already there is a yes. And you just walk over during the

52:14

reception and say, excuse me, I'd

52:16

like to request a song. Right. And you don't even

52:18

mention that you're

52:20

the ex you request our normal wedding guest. Right. And you it

52:22

when they say b c didn't. For

52:24

my scenario, I think it was it's

52:26

maybe five thousand dollars. five

52:29

thousand. If you're the DJ or if you're

52:31

bribing. If you're you're offering? I'm I'm

52:34

expecting that's with the DJ one. If I'm not if I'm like,

52:36

hey, I'm here to really screw

52:38

this up. Yeah. But you gotta put on this thousand.

52:40

I hand them my iPod.

52:46

My iPod video. There you go. And they

52:48

say five thousand dollars.

52:49

That's the

52:50

the number I think they'd come up with. Yeah. Yeah.

52:53

If they were a moral person. A moral person, there's no amount of money. They

52:55

have no skin in the game, man. They would do this for

52:57

one hundred dollars. I don't know. I I think

52:59

it depends. You're just gonna get a

53:02

very bad Yeah. You're you're

53:04

not working with any of the you're getting

53:06

no word-of-mouth marketing from that

53:08

couple in the future,

53:10

especially if if the person is gonna be rude.

53:12

My walk in song

53:14

is that I have

53:16

decided I'm

53:18

in bed. in bed and I'm

53:20

excited

53:20

that today is the day that I'm

53:22

going to

53:23

ask for my

53:24

girlfriend's hand in marriage from her father.

53:28

but

53:28

I'm in bed. I've gotta get to her

53:30

father's house.

53:31

Evan, could we? You have

53:33

begun. Saturday morning. Jump

53:35

down, jump

53:37

in. Wait a minute. What are my best

53:39

suits? I'm glad you asked. What is this? This

53:42

is I asked. Wow.

53:44

In the year twenty fourteen,

53:48

he uploaded a cover

53:50

of magic's root

53:53

to his SoundCloud. And to me, it is so

53:55

tragic because the man is like in twenty fourteen, he's

53:58

like time for my comeback.

53:59

But this

54:02

time, No way. I'm gonna be attached

54:04

to a one hit wonder. I'm

54:06

tethering my ship from one hit

54:08

wonderdom, and I'm going to cover

54:12

Magic exclamation points.

54:16

Dude. Wow.

54:18

Don't you? He sounds great.

54:20

He sounds really good. as covering

54:22

Root. From his sound cloud.

54:26

Yeah. I think this is just like

54:28

the instrumental track. Right? I'd be more I'd

54:30

be a little bit more into it. I think if it

54:33

was just like covered it with a

54:35

ban from the Caribbean. If he if he did a

54:38

chill roots reggae cover -- Yeah. --

54:40

or if he did, frankly, a pop cover,

54:42

what the twenty fourteen IS pop cover, so I'm like, love to hear

54:44

him work it out vocally though. IS doing this

54:46

thing. I'm worried about

54:48

you though. I don't think this is gonna go well for

54:50

you to go to ask you

54:52

girlfriends. You you're going in really smooth for this.

54:54

There's not the tension, you know. I put

54:56

on my best suit. Yeah. But you're

55:00

gonna in with, like, a little swagger on this. I feel like it's

55:02

like a calm swagger on it. Exactly. And

55:04

that's what and that's the problem.

55:08

Yeah. you wanna go into it with humility and you wanna

55:10

have paved the way, like, you need to be a

55:12

hundred percent confident. You're getting a yes before you can do it.

55:14

You don't do the answer. I want them to

55:16

come back I want him to come back.

55:18

That's I think that's what it is. I'm I'm

55:20

worried if that's your entrance

55:22

music that you haven't thought that you

55:24

have to be sure. when you

55:26

ask. You know? But you're like, yeah, I got

55:28

this. Maybe even you do a little gossiping

55:30

with your girlfriends

55:31

that, you know, Hey.

55:33

Hey. Yeah. I'm I'm thinking about Right.

55:35

Right. Right. You know, makes it back

55:37

to her dad. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. I think that's

55:40

I think that's the move. think if that's your

55:42

entrance music, you might not have done that.

55:44

Yeah. You might -- Exactly. -- you

55:45

might in fact -- Yeah. -- be

55:47

the one who's rude. Wow.

55:49

But then we

55:50

do do not need to lag

55:53

in crude again. I want I asked

55:55

to come back, but I want them to stay

55:57

away from the one that wonders. Yeah. It just was

55:59

yeah. You want the real sad

55:59

yet. A little humorous

56:01

to me. It all songs he

56:02

chose to make us come back

56:05

with it was yet another hit one hit wonder -- Yeah.

56:07

-- by a

56:08

Canadian Ricky band. Yeah.

56:10

Maybe he's

56:10

okay with it. Maybe he's totally at

56:13

peace and we're just we're putting all this insecurity

56:15

on him. I think it's a little i

56:17

as irony.

56:19

I'll go next this song I wanna share with

56:21

you is just a song that I like and this is a mood song

56:23

for me just like setting a mood about

56:25

a bad relationship. And

56:28

in my scenario, I

56:32

am

56:32

sitting inside

56:36

a dark drawer because

56:40

I am a jilted unused

56:46

Ipods. And this is the

56:48

song that I sing.

56:50

When the drawer is opened, I see a crack of

56:52

light in my former beloved owner

56:54

-- -- is using his

56:58

iPhone. To listen to

57:00

music, he

57:00

reaches in the drawer to get a pen or

57:02

maybe the rubber bands I'm I'm not even in

57:04

a nice desk drawer. I'm in the junk drawer. The

57:06

narrow drawer in the kitchen. That's just the junk drawer.

57:08

A junk drawer. I'm forgotten. I'm a

57:10

forgotten icon in a junk drawer.

57:13

Even I have the scroll wheel, even that's how old I am,

57:15

but I was once beloved. And now

57:17

I

57:17

sing this song. I wish I

57:20

knew you. And you know what's happening on the

57:22

iPhone? The he's listening to his

57:24

music on? Yes. That's

57:26

that's streaming. That's just

57:28

a variable quality. A

57:30

variable quality to music depending on his

57:32

WiFi connection. you have

57:34

all the files. I

57:36

have all the files and I sound better. You

57:38

sound better? better files. I don't

57:40

need Wi Fi. And yet has trumped me,

57:42

the jolt of I don't know. I

57:44

really liked one specific album that could

57:46

take the trouble to put waves for that

57:48

specific album rather than m p

57:50

threes on that album. Right? Yep. Okay.

57:53

This song is called Bad Habit.

57:55

It's by Steve Lacey. Hey,

57:58

pick, Evan. Thank you so

57:59

much. Okay, Phil. I passed it

58:02

very long. It was very

58:04

evocative. That was that was a good pick.

58:06

Thanks. That's long. my

58:07

entrance music, I

58:10

chose I'm picturing

58:12

myself at some sort

58:14

of event people are waiting

58:16

for some guests to come out. Mhmm. The the lights are all down.

58:18

I step out i

58:21

step out and and

58:22

and this

58:23

song begins to

58:26

play. The announcer says,

58:28

coming to the stage, we have a certain

58:31

New Yorker. and the audience is very

58:33

excited because as you may know,

58:35

this song is through the most

58:37

famous work. The greatest closer of all

58:39

the in baseball, one of the greatest of all time, Mariana Rivera's

58:41

entrance music. And it's always

58:44

every time he

58:46

comes out. this music

58:48

plays. I'm I'm backlit.

58:50

I'm there. People are

58:52

losing their minds. They're ready to

58:54

see Mariano. and the lights

58:56

come up and it's me

58:58

and they all go who?

59:04

and I have to save that situation. But they realized

59:06

that it wasn't really actually promised to

59:08

them that it was Mariana Rivera. It

59:10

was just a replica of your ticket

59:13

old. There were tickets with a special guest. Like, a guy

59:15

out on the street like, we're gonna

59:17

be playing the sim and don't

59:19

die. Yeah. Exactly. You like comedy?

59:21

Yeah. And and whoever booked me for the show

59:23

just way overestimated my star

59:26

power for

59:28

this situation, and they they put this song on

59:30

for me. And then I have to I have

59:32

to deal with the consequences. I I think in

59:34

this situation, I didn't know that it

59:37

was the song. that was playing for

59:40

me. So your your public

59:42

speaking appearance

59:42

goes very badly for you.

59:45

I like

59:45

to think I can save it, but

59:47

I can't. It does

59:50

go badly. I like to think I can over come

59:52

that. But I think the of Mariana Rivera,

59:54

and then my face appears smiling.

59:58

Is is It's a it's a very

1:00:00

different it's a you have to do a lot of mental

1:00:02

shifts there. A lot of gears. You

1:00:04

hear the grinding.

1:00:06

I've long wondered Evan that

1:00:08

that has for, like, the last twenty years, that

1:00:10

has been the tradition in

1:00:12

our sort of home area,

1:00:14

the big

1:00:14

university there -- Mhmm. -- not in our hometown,

1:00:16

one time over is Virginia Tech University -- Yeah. --

1:00:18

famous for their football program. Mhmm. When their football program takes the

1:00:21

field, they play interstate

1:00:23

same man. That's about

1:00:25

Yeah. And I always kinda wondered

1:00:27

well, like, me

1:00:28

on a rivera was

1:00:29

playing before. Yeah. Like, he he probably didn't change

1:00:31

his walking time. Right? Did that

1:00:33

So the Hokey's just rip off me. I don't have my own or

1:00:36

repair. Sure. But now what I really wanna know

1:00:38

is, the first time they did it

1:00:39

were all the Hokey fans

1:00:42

like, holy

1:00:42

shit. Yeah. They got Mariano Romero.

1:00:44

He's got all his college eligibility

1:00:46

left. III think it's

1:00:48

so incredible that that song is tied

1:00:52

at the hip. He's so such a good picture that

1:00:55

he owns that

1:00:56

song from Metallica, like

1:00:59

It's it's he's gotta be really good

1:01:02

-- Right. -- to own that song. And he

1:01:04

lives up to us every

1:01:06

time. Right. Yeah. There's no

1:01:08

band that owns a sport. Right. But

1:01:10

but there's a sportsman who owns a

1:01:12

song. It's it's his.

1:01:14

It's really his. Yeah. Yeah. And

1:01:16

that's why I picked it. When you said pick

1:01:19

any song, you guys like

1:01:21

it shows that one thing that can I

1:01:23

love your scenario because it's predicated on

1:01:25

just you being extreme weak sauce. Yeah. Yeah.

1:01:27

You picked the most famous

1:01:29

existing walk in

1:01:32

song. and said, I will do this badly. I will do this.

1:01:34

Also, on some level,

1:01:37

as as some

1:01:40

people meet me. I feel like it's a it is a who

1:01:42

situation at first for a

1:01:44

little while. I think I I think

1:01:46

I think I think I'm still

1:01:49

in that phase of the career, where people

1:01:51

are going, ugh, who's that? Hopefully afterwards, they

1:01:53

don't do it a second time.

1:01:55

That's what I'm hoping. for.

1:01:57

Right. So this will at least earn me. Notariety,

1:02:00

if not. Yeah. Now, Phil

1:02:02

Jamieson. Yeah. The guy with the

1:02:04

who phase Exactly. He's the guy with

1:02:06

the the pitches. Yeah. Hundred mile an

1:02:08

hour pitches. Sure. I don't

1:02:10

remember. He's got a cutter. Yeah. He's

1:02:12

handsome, but

1:02:14

forgettable. He went into the hall of fame, hundred percent. First guy ever

1:02:16

in the history of the hall of fame. Yeah. I

1:02:18

saw him at a benefit. We're raising money

1:02:20

for children's leukemia. He came

1:02:23

out and he bomb. He

1:02:26

tried to do jokes.

1:02:30

Yeah. Well,

1:02:32

Phil, thank you so much for coming on punch up the

1:02:34

jam. I wanna share with your audience that if you've

1:02:36

enjoyed spending time with Phil here today,

1:02:38

you should absolutely follow him on Twitter,

1:02:40

which is filled Jamieson, but you could also Two s's. Two

1:02:42

s's. It's double bass. to get a

1:02:44

Tasty Jamieson, a for very

1:02:46

forgettable type of bands I filled jamies. That's

1:02:50

a double You have a catchphrase or Yeah. I definitely spell and catchphrase

1:02:52

about whiskey and Yeah. Well,

1:02:54

actually, people always ask me, like, the whiskey

1:02:56

and No.

1:02:58

because it's not. That's what one asked. Yeah.

1:03:00

It's like it's like Yeah. I say it's like it's a

1:03:02

double o time. But you're slurring the

1:03:05

name. James is It's like after

1:03:07

you've had a double. Exactly right. Right. But you can

1:03:10

also experience a lovely

1:03:12

laugh with Phil on his show

1:03:16

hamlet factory, which you can watch on adult swim courtesy

1:03:18

of HBO Max. Right. It's

1:03:20

on HBO Max and YouTube.

1:03:23

It's just a really funny show that Phil

1:03:25

created in wrote and voices about

1:03:27

the monkeys that you always hear about

1:03:29

-- Yeah. -- in the infinite factory of monkeys

1:03:31

trying to come up with Hamlet. That's right. And

1:03:33

they're doing it. Man. It's the office where it

1:03:36

happens. It's all the adventures they have along the

1:03:38

way. I cannot wait for the

1:03:40

finale when they finally I mean, I don't want the finale

1:03:42

to ever happen. Right. Right. Right. presumably, I It

1:03:44

will That's Frank. But that was a --

1:03:46

Frank. -- that we get it done. The infinite

1:03:48

number, they they finally get it done. It would be nice to

1:03:50

get it done. As a presumably Or all

1:03:52

of your all of your watchers are on edge. But that's the whole point. They will never

1:03:54

get there. It requires an infinite number of

1:03:56

tries, and that's why the monkeys feel like

1:03:58

they're stuck

1:03:59

on replay.

1:04:01

Beautiful. Okay. Beautiful wrap

1:04:03

up in there. Thank you very much for

1:04:05

having fun.

1:04:06

Get the fun job.

1:04:23

you've

1:04:23

been listening to punch up

1:04:25

the jam. That was a

1:04:27

hit gum original.