I've been fortunate enough to know Chris for over 10 years. And within that time he's always brought a perspective that has been outside of my own. Most of the time after our conversations it takes me at least a week to digest what he said. During this conversation he didn't necessarily get too deep I'm imagining it's because this is our first time recording together. Look forward to seeing Chris in more social issues and the things that normally make people shut down. Like I said he just has a way of simplifying what is seemingly very complicated. Also the ability to look at most situations from the little guys perspective.