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like out a week in advance, people just putting
4:02
their camping chairs out. And she was like, they've
4:04
already got the chairs out for your birthday, dad.
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I was like, yes, yes, that's true.
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I mean, I felt like that
4:11
when we were we celebrated your birthday in
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Idlewild, California, a couple
4:15
years ago. And because
4:19
birthdays are the same every year, it was
4:21
again around the time for Fourth July. And
4:23
that town also days in advance
4:25
just had like chairs lining the
4:27
sidewalk in anticipation of this parade, because people
4:29
are like, like, like the
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whole town turns into a little kid where it's like,
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I know it's not until it's not for like six
4:35
days, but I'm like, I'm just gonna, I got energy.
4:37
I'm antsy. I'm gonna put the chairs out now. I'm
4:39
gonna just like put chairs on the side of the
4:41
road now. And I'm gonna put a chain on them
4:44
so no one can sit on them. And then and
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then we'll be ready. We'll be ready. If
4:48
the Fourth of July is earlier this year,
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we'll be prepared. Yeah, in case something comes
4:52
up between now and then, in a town
4:54
where the cat is the mayor where nothing
4:56
could possibly come up. Yeah,
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I don't, it was it was crazy to see
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how many chairs were out. And then I started
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like my son was even like, what are they?
5:06
What happens in this parade? Meaning like, what
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is special about this one? And I was
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like, you know what, probably nothing. It's probably
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fire truck, fire truck, fire truck, some guys
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on horses, an
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ambulance, maybe, and then a float
5:20
with some kids on it. And that's it.
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Like, that's what a parade is. And they
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don't do anything different here. It's not like
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Disneyland, where they're also doing little dances next
5:29
to each float. Like, it's a
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parade in a small town. And I have
5:33
no idea why that's so exciting to people
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still. In
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my old town, which was a one square mile
5:40
town on the Jersey Shore, they got really excited
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about their Fourth of July parade. And they had
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like, like all
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the groups that I think only
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work for parades, they only do
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the parade circuit where it's like the
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bagpipers and here's like a band
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that is exclusively very old veterans
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playing some kind of old timey
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music. And they also had
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the fire trucks going by and the the
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one of the other things that made this
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parade special was that If
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you were gonna drive your car in the parade Then
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you were also it was expected of
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you to have candy to throw at
6:15
children So you're just throwing candy at
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kids all day long. That's they turned
6:19
into another Halloween Yeah, that was
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and when as a kid that
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was all I cared about in a parade was am
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I close enough to get the candy? Because they're gonna
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be throwing candy at us And
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the fact that there were floats going by it meant
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nothing to me Like even then I was over the
6:35
idea of a fire truck. I was like, yeah, they
6:38
we see them. We've seen these Yeah, but
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for an adult is it adult really like
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setting up the chairs being like, all right This is gonna be
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a pretty much spot because boy 50% Yeah,
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like 70% of the P the firemen I
6:50
know are left-handed and so they're gonna be
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throwing off of this side So
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we're gonna be getting a lot of Tootsie rolls that
6:57
we could otherwise go to the store and get for
6:59
75 cents Yeah,
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anyway, I couldn't I didn't understand it anyway I
7:05
went camping Let
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me walk that back. I did not go shopping.
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I went and stayed on a cabin in
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a KO a With
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a bunch of families from Ronin
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school and This is
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it's like the cabin doesn't have a stove So
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you're like you're cooking outside still on your little
7:24
to burner Coleman or whatever you've got But
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you know for all intents and purposes you're staying
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in a cabin. You're not it's not real camping
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This was so much fun Daniel. Oh,
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I was really like coming up on
7:38
this trip in like oh, this is gonna
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be tough Man, it's gonna be all these kids
7:42
and not everyone raises their kids the same, you
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know You know how that is
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and so you're gonna end up being responsible
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for other kids sometimes that
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you don't really know what their rules
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are and It
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was so great the eight years old I feel
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like is this turning point where I
8:01
didn't see my son for three days. He was
8:03
just in this biker gang with his friends, and
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they cruised around this camp going from the pool
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to this thing called a jumping
8:09
pillow, which is... I
8:12
can put it together with context clues, what it probably
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is. This thing they can jump on, and
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then surviving off of s'mores,
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I just let them loose. And these
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kids, they made good choices. They weren't
8:26
being bad. The worst thing they
8:28
did was throw a chair in the pool, and that
8:30
was like, they felt pretty bad about that. And
8:35
otherwise, they were so good and so
8:37
nice to each other, and they played
8:40
really well, and they just lived on
8:42
their own in this little campus, basically.
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And so I had one child- And even the
8:46
chair thing is, it's a very understandable impulse to
8:50
wanna see what happens. Of course. You're
8:52
eight years old and you have a chair in a pool. You're very
8:54
curious. I
8:57
certainly remember being around pools as
8:59
a kid, and some
9:02
adult at some pool was like, now I want
9:04
you all to see that there is a cinder
9:06
block over there. Do not throw the
9:08
cinder block into the pool. And we were all like, oh
9:12
man, what's gonna happen if we throw that fucking cinder
9:14
block in the pool? I gotta
9:16
see it happen. And
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just the innate,
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it's in a human's DNA to
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wanna throw big stuff in water.
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And so we're constantly thinking, like, oh man, I'm
9:29
near all these rocks, like these rocks that gotta
9:31
go in that water so bad. And so seeing
9:33
a chair too, and being like, maybe I could
9:35
stand on it then. Maybe I could do different
9:37
things with the chair. Like who knows the possibilities
9:40
once that chair is in the water. So- Right,
9:42
theoretically, you could sit in the chair in the bottom of the
9:45
pool and pretend you're at a computer or pretend you're having tea.
9:47
I understand the impulse completely. The bits
9:49
are endless. There's so many fun things
9:52
it turns out you can do in
9:54
a chair underwater. And
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so they wanted that chair in the water bad. And ultimately
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I didn't- situation,
20:00
not like a crisis or anything, but
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I was, this was a few days ago,
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early in the morning, the
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building manager at my building
20:10
doesn't live on site. And
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she emailed all of the
20:15
residents with a picture that another resident had
20:17
taken of our garbage area. Our
20:19
garbage area is in the parking lot. We
20:21
have one large dumpster and
20:24
eight or nine cans
20:26
for that all collect mixed recyclables.
20:29
So everything just goes in there. And the picture
20:31
was of the garbage area. And there were a
20:33
ton of empty
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cardboard boxes. Some of them were open
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with other boxes stuffed in them. Some
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of them were like broken down and
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just like left in that area. It
20:45
certainly looked trashy and bad. And
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the building manager emailed this picture to all of
20:49
us and was like, one of the residents just
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sent this to me. This is unacceptable.
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This is horrible. If anyone
20:58
did this, take care of it.
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Or if you didn't do it, but
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you see an address of who was
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responsible, you can call me and tell
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me the address. And every number, everyone
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who calls me, this is confidential. And
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I will deal with the person who
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did this. And that was the email.
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So I took Jackson
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for a little walk to the beach. We hung
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out on the beach for a while. And then
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I came back to the building and I chained
21:24
Jackson up near the garbage and I started breaking
21:26
down the boxes and folding them up and
21:29
putting them away. And I'm
21:32
going to just do this. Truly,
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I had
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time. And it was like
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a nice morning. And I'm also, you can tell
21:41
by looking at the boxes that I wasn't looking
21:43
for addresses because I didn't even want to be
21:46
like accidentally a narc on this. But you could
21:48
see by looking at the boxes that it has
21:50
things on it like labeled kitchen or labeled bedroom
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or labeled like John's
21:55
dresser. Yeah. Clearly someone had
21:57
recently moved and moved. So
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there are videos that I watch online of...
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Me too. That wraps
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it up for today. Phew. I'm
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not the only one. There are videos I
42:09
watch online of generally they are motorcyclists, but
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there are also other circumstances. There's somebody in a
42:14
parking lot where somebody will throw trash out their
42:16
window. A motorcyclist will come
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along, pick up the trash, throw
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it back in the car. And
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I love these. Like they're like
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my favorite thing in the world. It's
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only a thing I think you can get away with on something
42:32
like a motorcycle because no one can keep
42:34
up with you. No one can keep pace with you. And
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it's what I secretly want to do all the
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time because I see people throwing trash out their
42:43
windows and I'm like, yeah, we all have
42:45
to live here. Darn, don't do
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that. I would tell the
42:49
building manager if there was one, but
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yeah, I don't know
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what to do with that. I don't know what to
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do with that feeling other than just like eat it until I watch
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these videos and then it's very cathartic and it's like, oh, yeah. Oh,
43:02
okay. Good. Some people are
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getting their their reckoning. That's wonderful. I
43:08
also do think it's worth saying that I understand the
43:10
appeal of throwing things out your window. It
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is not something I do because we all do
43:16
it. Yeah, even with like
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an apple, my brother
43:20
will be eating an apple and
43:22
because they're biodegradable, you can leave them anywhere.
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They're allowed to do that. He will throw
43:27
it out his window and it
43:30
looks so cool and there's
43:32
such a simplicity to it. And like when
43:34
you watch, they make a big show of
43:37
it in Anchorman because it's set
43:39
in the 70s. The people who were
43:41
just like drinking a smoothie or a milkshake or whatever and
43:43
then they just throw it over their shoulder behind them. It's
43:46
the past and the characters are assholes, so it's allowed.
43:48
But I still see it just like, oh,
43:51
that's so nice. So freeing to be done with a
43:53
thing and not have to think like now
43:55
I have to like me, a sucker driving around
43:57
with an apple core in my car. until
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I get home so I could bring the garbage into
44:02
my house to put it in my garbage and then
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add to my own garbage. How
44:06
nice would it be to just like, I'm done with this
44:08
thing, bonk, throw it away, take
44:11
a cigarette, throw it on the ground,
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stomp it out. We all
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know why that's appealing. The
44:18
appeal is clear. The appeal is like this
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thing stops existing behind you. You
44:23
throw it, you throw it, and the world just stops
44:25
existing back there and that thing is gone. Right.
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Basically, my dream situation is to never have
44:31
to use my home garbage, that I could
44:33
just keep that nice. Get
44:36
my trash can clean. Yeah.
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Yeah, I understand the appeal of it,
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obviously, but the fact that
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we are all controlling that impulse is
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what makes me so angry when somebody is not.
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Because I'm like, yeah, we all want to cut
44:50
line, dude, but we're not doing it because this
44:52
is the way society works. We've all agreed that this
44:54
is a better version. Even
44:57
to the point where I will be walking past a
44:59
trash can with stuff that I've accumulated
45:01
by eating food or whatever, and I'm like,
45:03
okay, this can go in there and this can
45:05
go in there. But now I'm going
45:07
to hang onto this bottle and we're
45:09
going to wait until we get to something a little bit better,
45:11
somewhere that this belongs. My impulse is like,
45:14
put it all in there, it goes away forever.
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I don't ever hear about it again. But I know
45:19
that that's not- Surely I've done enough. Surely I do
45:21
more than most people. But
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I'm still like, now I got to go find a
45:26
recycling as well. And
45:29
then occasionally you will get to a place where
45:31
you've got the options for compost,
45:33
trash and recycling. And I'm like, okay,
45:37
kids, you should go play because I'm going to be
45:39
here for like 15 minutes trying to figure this out.
45:42
Now I've got a receipt here. I know that's paper,
45:44
but it's like a weird carbon paper and I don't
45:46
think that's good for the planet. So I think that
45:48
goes in trash. Now my bottle cap.
45:51
It's different than the bottle itself and I know
45:54
they need to be separate for the recycling purposes.
45:56
The bottle, easy. But now I'm dealing with this
45:58
other type of like thicker plastic cap.
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