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The Unmarked Graveyard: Cesar Irizarry

The Unmarked Graveyard: Cesar Irizarry

Released Thursday, 2nd November 2023
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The Unmarked Graveyard: Cesar Irizarry

The Unmarked Graveyard: Cesar Irizarry

The Unmarked Graveyard: Cesar Irizarry

Thursday, 2nd November 2023
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0:01

Radio Topia. From

0:04

PRX.

0:11

Two years ago, a former detective named

0:13

Angel Irizarry set out on a personal

0:15

investigation to track down an

0:17

uncle who had been out of touch with the family for

0:20

decades.

0:20

But early in his search, he made a

0:23

disappointing discovery. His uncle,

0:25

Caesar, had died.

0:30

From Radio Diaries, I'm Joe Richman and this is The

0:33

Unmarked Graveyard, a series untangling

0:35

mysteries from America's largest public cemetery.

0:39

Each week we're bringing you stories about people buried

0:41

on Hart Island, the lives they lived,

0:43

and the people they left behind. Hi,

0:47

honey. Hi, baby. There were thousands

0:50

of questions. Where's his family?

0:53

Where's his people? Neil Harris

0:55

was last seen in Inwood, New York on December 12, 2014.

0:58

The playwright,

1:00

novelist, and author of Happy Island, Ms.

1:02

Dawn Powell. You can't help

1:04

but wonder what her life has been. Annette

1:07

found you, she found us, and we're

1:09

here. Now we know who you are.

1:14

Today, episode six, the story

1:16

of Angel Irizarry and his long

1:18

lost uncle, Caesar. All

1:21

right, this is Angel Irizarry.

1:23

I just received the

1:26

death certificate of my uncle, Caesar.

1:33

It says the date of death was July

1:35

19th, 2020, which

1:37

would have made Uncle Caesar 64 years old.

1:40

And

1:40

it says place of disposition

1:43

is City Cemetery at Hart Island.

1:47

Everything else pretty much says unknown.

1:49

The usual occupation unknown,

1:52

kind of business unknown. It says

1:54

mother and parents are unknown.

1:58

But the truth of the matter is he died. does have

2:00

family and he did have family. Uncle

2:08

Caesar was estranged from our family, I would

2:11

say about 40 to 50 years. I'm 45

2:15

years old and I only

2:17

seen him one time. I

2:20

think I was probably about six or seven sitting

2:24

on the floor playing with toys at

2:27

my grandparents house and

2:30

then there was this tall

2:32

dark new gentleman standing

2:35

at the door. I

2:37

looked and was like who the heck are

2:39

you? You know you look like my dad close

2:42

to a spitting image and I have never

2:44

seen you before. I

2:47

think I went to my dad and was like you know

2:50

who is this guy? My

2:52

dad was like that's your uncle Caesar but

2:55

after that I never seen him again.

2:59

From

3:02

that point forward I was asking questions

3:04

like well where is he? How come I don't see this guy?

3:07

My aunts and even my grandparents

3:10

wouldn't want to speak a word

3:13

of who uncle Caesar was.

3:15

There

3:15

would be times that I would go through

3:18

some pictures and I would ask

3:20

hey who's this guy and people would say that's

3:22

nobody.

3:24

My father did finally sit me down and told

3:26

me that when uncle Caesar was about

3:28

21-22 he was hanging

3:31

out with a very bad crowd who

3:35

used to drink a lot. One

3:37

day he came to the house asking

3:40

my grandfather for money and

3:43

my grandfather was very mad

3:45

at him because he was drunk

3:49

and uncle Caesar punks my

3:51

grandfather and then my

3:53

grandfather told him that he was banished

3:55

from the family forever. It's

4:00

sad, man. He was isolated from the

4:02

family, so I know that's sad, man. I know it's sad

4:04

for me. I start relating

4:07

to him more as a

4:10

teenager, to the point that I was like, well,

4:12

I can see how people get banished because I felt

4:15

like, I was kinda like, what's happening to me

4:17

a little bit? I was

4:19

getting into some, I

4:22

don't wanna creminate myself, but I was getting into some things

4:25

that had to do with gangs,

4:27

drugs, alcohol, to

4:29

the point that I got kicked out

4:31

of my house. But I

4:34

became the man that I am now because of my father

4:36

and the family who stood by my side. And

4:39

I believe that Uncle Caesar,

4:42

he was a man who needed to be forgiven,

4:44

just like I need to be forgiven. I

4:48

always knew that he was out there and I always

4:51

wanted more of a relationship with him. And

4:54

now that he's gone, I start

4:57

looking to see if anyone knew

4:59

him, someone who can

5:01

give me a little bit of insight on how

5:04

he died, but also how he

5:06

lived. Okay,

5:13

so today, me and my wife,

5:15

we just drove from Virginia to the Bronx, New

5:17

York. We're going to

5:19

the last place where Caesar lived

5:21

before he passed. We were able to locate

5:24

his roommate who he lived with.

5:35

Hi,

5:37

nice to meet you. Yeah, yeah, how are you being? My

5:40

friend is not so good, so

5:42

he's going to speak for me. Yo,

5:45

Estas, no interpretation, no, William. Okay.

5:48

So I am the nephew

5:51

of Caesar Irizarry. My

5:56

name is William Calderon. I lived

5:59

with Cesar. Saturday, I think

6:01

five, six, seven years. I

6:05

can start from the beginning if you want.

6:09

Yeah, definitely. How did you

6:11

come to meet him? Yeah,

6:16

my mom and I, we went out rooms so

6:19

we can make rent. And he came and

6:21

rented out a small room. But

6:26

then, due to his drinking, we started

6:28

to have some issues. And he decided

6:30

himself to go to rehab. That

6:33

time, he lasted about a year, almost

6:36

a year, without drinking. But

6:39

then he started drinking again. But

6:42

he started to calm down with time,

6:45

and we started to have a really good relationship.

6:48

Would you consider him a good man?

6:50

Of course, great person.

6:54

The only thing is that when he

6:57

started drinking, he would become someone

6:59

else. But

7:01

he was good to me and my mom. And

7:03

he would pay his rent first day of the month when

7:06

he would get his check from the government. Why

7:09

did the government take care of him? He wasn't working? No.

7:12

No, he did not work. What

7:15

did he do all day? We

7:18

would talk with Chad. He would talk to me

7:21

about his family. He

7:23

would say that he had a family, but he wasn't in

7:25

touch with any of them.

7:27

And he would

7:29

say he felt bad for not being what his family

7:32

wanted him to be. And

7:34

he said he knew he was the one who messed up

7:36

with his family, and he was the one that

7:38

strayed away.

7:40

That's actually why

7:42

he would call his dad. And

7:45

his dad would get annoyed because he'd be drunk when

7:47

he called.

7:49

You know, if

7:51

Caesar contacted my grandfather

7:53

and he was drunk, that

7:55

type of situation

7:58

brings back the past.

7:59

He would tell us precisely

8:02

that. I'm

8:06

laughing. It's not funny, but I'm laughing

8:08

because that's exactly what he would tell us. That

8:11

he's that hated when he called him while he was

8:13

drunk.

8:16

Did he pass away in this house? Do you

8:18

know when he passed?

8:20

I remember

8:22

it like it was today. It was July

8:24

4th and he went out as usual

8:27

to drink. And

8:29

then from the park they called the ambulance because

8:31

he couldn't stand up or walk or

8:34

handle himself. When

8:36

I got the call from the hospital, I was told

8:39

his organs started failing and that he

8:41

could stop breathing at any moment. They

8:46

asked me if I wanted to say anything to him over

8:48

the phone. And I told

8:50

him, Cesar, remember

8:52

there's a God and that I'm with you. And

8:57

I couldn't continue speaking with him because

8:59

I started tearing up and I couldn't say anything else.

9:01

But the doctor said, rest

9:04

assured that he heard you because he moved

9:06

his hand when you were speaking.

9:08

That's beautiful, man. That's

9:11

beautiful. This

9:15

whole

9:16

situation really shows you

9:18

that

9:19

time is short and you

9:21

don't have time to hold grudges.

9:24

Let

9:27

me tell you something that might give you some peace.

9:32

He wasn't with his own family, but

9:35

I can tell you that he was loved. While

9:38

he lived here, he had that love of a family.

9:43

He would even tell us, my mom and I, you're

9:45

my family.

9:48

So that makes me feel more happy than anything.

9:51

And thank you for being his friend.

9:54

It really goes and shows that it

9:56

doesn't have to be blood to be family.

10:03

When

10:05

he passed away, they called me from the hospital

10:09

asking what should they do with

10:11

his body and I told them

10:13

that he himself, when he was alive, told

10:16

me for the government to take care of it. I

10:20

don't even know where they buried him.

10:32

Chest 1-2, 1-2, we

10:34

are here at the beginning of the ferry

10:36

to go to Heart Island and

10:39

at this time we're going to go see the

10:41

grave site of Uncle Caesar.

10:50

He's more alive to me now. He's

10:52

more alive to me now because I

10:55

walked in the place where he walked. I talked

10:57

to the people he talked to. This

11:00

is your spot. Oh, this is it? Yes,

11:02

sir. And I wanted

11:05

to speak with him.

11:09

Uncle Caesar, we're here.

11:12

I wish I could have known you more. I

11:15

wish I could have spent time with you

11:17

and I'm sorry

11:19

for that, but I never

11:21

forgot about you.

11:24

And everything that we

11:26

have done as a family against you, we ask

11:29

for forgiveness and everything that you

11:31

have done against us, we forgive you. Until

11:35

we meet again, Uncle Caesar, God bless

11:37

you, Deals of Endiga, in Jesus' name,

11:41

Amen.

11:55

That was Angel Irizarry remembering

11:58

his Uncle Caesar.

12:01

Our story was produced by Elisa Escarce,

12:04

Daniel Gross, and Tyler Brady. It

12:06

was edited by Deborah George, Ben Shapiro, and

12:08

me. Our interpreter was Ramon Mendez,

12:10

sound mixing by Mitra Kaboli.

12:13

The Razi Daire's team also includes

12:15

Nellie Gillis, Micah Hazel, and Lena Engelstein.

12:18

The story was reported in collaboration with the

12:20

Missing Them Project from the nonprofit news

12:22

site The City, thanks to editor Anjali

12:24

Tzui. Missing Them is supported in part

12:27

by the Brown Institute for Media Innovation

12:29

at Columbia University, and thanks to our broadcast

12:31

partner NPR's All Things Considered. We're

12:34

proud members of RadioTopia from PRX, a

12:36

network of independent, creator-owned listeners

12:38

supporting the podcasts. You can hear them all

12:41

at radiotopia.fm. Radio

12:44

Daire has support from the National Endowment for the Humanities,

12:47

the Lilly Auchincloss Foundation, New York

12:49

City's Department of Cultural Affairs, and

12:51

from listeners like you.

12:59

Coming up on the

13:01

unmarked graveyard, the mystery of a

13:03

woman who lived in a hotel room in Midtown

13:05

Manhattan. Fakohas Gawa

13:08

lived here for at least 40, 50 years,

13:11

and she lived alone. You

13:14

see such a person and you can't help but

13:17

wonder what her life has been. I'm

13:19

Joe Richmond of Radio Diaries. See you

13:21

next week.

13:23

RadioTopia from PRX.

13:29

Thanks for watching.

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