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The Unmarked Graveyard: Hisako Hasegawa

The Unmarked Graveyard: Hisako Hasegawa

Released Thursday, 9th November 2023
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The Unmarked Graveyard: Hisako Hasegawa

The Unmarked Graveyard: Hisako Hasegawa

Thursday, 9th November 2023
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From Radio Diaries, I'm Joe Richman, and this

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is The Unmarked Graveyard, a series

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about people buried on Heart Island, the

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lives they lived, and the people they left behind.

1:11

There were

1:13

thousands

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of questions. Where's his family? Where's his

1:16

people? Neil

1:18

Harris was last seen in Inwood,

1:20

New York on December 12, 2014. The playwright,

1:22

novelist, and author of Happy Island, Miss Dawn Powell.

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And that found

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you, she found us, and we're here. And now

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we know who you are. If

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you've been listening to our series, you know we've been

1:35

attempting to bring you stories

1:37

If you've been listening to our series, you know

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we've been attempting to untangle mysteries

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from America's largest public cemetery.

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There was a story about a woman's search for the father

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she never knew, a successful writer

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who was largely forgotten, and a

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guy who spent every day for two years on the

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same park bench.

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But there are some mysteries on Heart Island we

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have not been able to solve. The

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Belvedere Hotel is in the heart of New York City's

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theater district. Many of its guests

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come to see the sites, taken a show, but

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there are also a few dozen people who call the Belvedere

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home. Decades ago, they came

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to New York and rented rooms there, and

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as the hotel changed hands over the years, they

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never left. One of them was Hisiko

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Hasagawa, who lived a private

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and quiet life. Nobody at

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the hotel knew much about her. Today,

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Episode 7, The Woman in Room 208.

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My name is Ali Mamoud, and I work at the Belvedere

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Hotel in New York City. Sako

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Hasagawa lived here for

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at least 40, 50 years, and she

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lived alone. She was

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a very sweet lady. She would stop

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by and always say hello to me. My

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name is Jerry. I've been a bellhop

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at the Belvedere Hotel for 22 years.

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I would have a morning shift on Fridays and

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Saturdays. We always open the door for

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her. She would look up for a smile, a huge

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smile. She was always bowing,

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saying hello, hello,

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hello.

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When she spoke, she spoke

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with an accent, but she was able to convey herself

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very clearly.

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Every time I ran into her in

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a hallway or in the lobby, she

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said, nice to see you, she actually meant

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it.

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If you wrote her a rent receipt, for

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example, you would magically

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find a hand-drawn card

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next day on your desk. Someone

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took 45 minutes to make that card.

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Her handwriting was beautiful, like

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poetry, like, well, I don't know. I've

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never seen something like that. One

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time I said hello, and she

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just waved and rushed into the

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elevator with her little shopping cart. She

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came and gave me a letter.

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Hello Jerry, I do want to apologize

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that I didn't get to say hello

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to you correctly You

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know and it's how bad she felt

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and they touched me There's

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some tenants here that don't got nobody

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to talk to Nobody say

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have a good day or nobody say happy holidays

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Nobody say I love you. Nobody say

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I hate you, you know

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I always saw her alone alone

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yet happy

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perhaps to each their own

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You see such a person and you can't

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help but wonder what her life has been

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My

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name is Renee and I

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live here in Belvedere Hotel when

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Miss Issego was still alive

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This is where she lives room 208 and

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I live in 207 across the hall

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As

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far as the nearest neighbor, I am the

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only one she talks to and she knows

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my name

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Doesn't say so much

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you know Except

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you know the usual greeting.

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How are you?

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Whether it's nice I'm

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gonna get my mail

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I always play this

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This is my piano and

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I play it in the evening most

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often she knows when

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I play the piano Because

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she hears it

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She tells me you know, it's

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a good thing you play the piano last night.

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How nice is it?

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Those things very

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gracious you

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My name is Nancy Boyce and

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I have lived in this building

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at the Belvedere for the past 41 years.

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So, this

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is the living room and the bedroom. It's

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just one big room. He's a cos room, just

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like mine.

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This is the hallway

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and then this is a depressing

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kitchen. It's very small,

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the size of closet.

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I have my hot plate

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and refrigerator.

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At least we had our own little kitchen,

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tiny, our own private bathroom.

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That's what was

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important to me.

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People who don't know, like tourists

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or friends, they are amazed. Wow,

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you live in a hotel in the

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heart of the city especially. You know,

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it's a big deal for them. But to

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me, having lived

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here for such a long

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time, for decades, you know, I can't

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stand this apartment.

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At the end of the day, I feel lucky that I

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have my family and

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white circle of friends.

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But I see a lot of

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older people like

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his circle. They're all alone.

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One Friday, I realized that she

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didn't come down

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and it bothered me.

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So I like to ask proper

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management to please check up on her because

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we've had tenants that fast away in the hotel.

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When I came in from work,

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everybody was on the hallway,

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the police, and then the investigators

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were all there. And then they started

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asking questions,

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questions.

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I said, what happened?

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She died.

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She fell from the bed.

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I cannot believe that she died

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that way.

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And investigator was telling

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me, oh, you're the next neighbor. Okay, do you know

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her? Anybody who knows her? My

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gosh, after all this years, I

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never, I

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never saw her with anybody. I

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wish, if she only knocked

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at my door, you know. I

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should have asked

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her. They think

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that you are intruding

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or something, but no, I, that

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is, that's a misconception.

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I think you should ask.

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New York is a place for the dreamers. And

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we all come from somewhere to

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leave and leave your families behind and

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come here and make a new life and one

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would hope that you'd find love and meet people

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and have a family and maybe

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not end up alone in a hotel room

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somewhere.

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Thank you to the staff and tenants of the Belvedere

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Hotel. Piano performed by

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Renee Kedihero in room 207. In

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our research, we discovered very little about Hisoko

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Hisagawa. We know she was born

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in Japan in 1934 and probably

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came to the US in the 1970s. One

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thing we do know is that after she died

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at the Belvedere in 2016, she

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was buried in plot 379 on Heart Island. This

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story was produced by Nellie Gillis. It was edited

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by Deborah George, Ben Shapiro and me, sound

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mixing by Ben Shapiro. The Radio

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Diaries team also includes Elisa Escarce,

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Micah Hazel, and Lena Engelstein. Our

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theme music is by Matthias Bossi and Stelwagen

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Symphonette. Thanks also to our broadcast

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partner NPR's All Things Considered. We're

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proud members of Radiotopia from PRX, a

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network of independent, creator-owned, listener-supported

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podcasts. You can hear them all at radiotopia.fm.

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Radio Diaries has support from the National Endowment for the Humanities,

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the Lilly Auchincloss Foundation, New

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York City's Department of Cultural Affairs, and

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from listeners like you. Coming

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up next week, our final episode of the

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Unmarked Graveyard, a missing person's

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case that fell through the cracks.

10:51

The missing person's squad at that

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time was in a state

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of disrepair. I remember

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looking at this spreadsheet of open cases.

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It just went on for like 100 pages.

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I'm

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Joe Richmond of Radio Diaries. See you

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next week.

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