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You're
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listening to Radio Diaries and this is Nellie Gillis
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with producers Alisa Escarce and Micah
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the network recently. Micah, you go first. So
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I recently listened to the Stoop episode,
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Don't Call Me Auntie, which is basically
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breaking down the word auntie. I use
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it all the
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time. A lot of people of color use it all the
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time. It's like a very endearing
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term. And this
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episode really just kind of broke
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down the ways in which it's actually
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pretty problematic.
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I think something this show just really does well is
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it takes these just everyday things in
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my life or everyday things in black culture and
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it kind of like flips them on the head a little bit
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while also just feeling like a very casual
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conversation between friends. Awesome.
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How many people in your life do you call auntie? Oh my
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God. Like pretty
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much anyone who's nice to me. How
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about you, Alisa? So I recently
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loved this episode. It was a collaboration
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between two of my favorite Radiotopia shows,
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Articles of Interest and Wait For It. They
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did this story about plus size clothes
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that was the perfect combo of personal
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stories and really fascinating fashion history that
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I had never thought about. I'll
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never be able to look at those shoulder cutouts on T-shirts
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the same way. I heard that
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episode too and I definitely have shoulder cutout
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shirts that I don't know whether I'll ever wear again. So
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I just listened to this Ear Hustle episode about the largest women's prison
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in the world. And
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they interview like five women and one of them talks
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about how before she was incarcerated she hopped
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freight trains for years. But
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then there's this beautiful moment where she
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almost like longs for the sound of trains and
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there's this freight train outside the prison
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and she says she can still hear like the
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engines from like a mile away. And I
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just thought it was like one of those rare interviews that you want
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Radiotopia. From PRX.
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From Radio Diaries I'm Joe Richman and
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this is the final episode of the Unmarked
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Graveyard. A series about people
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buried in America's largest public cemetery.
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The lives they lived and the people they left
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behind.
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There
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were thousands of questions. Where's
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his family? Where's
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his people? Neil Harris was last
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seen in Inwood, New
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York on December 12, 2014. The playwright, novelist
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and author of Happy Island, Miss Dawn
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Powell. And that found you, she
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found us and we're here. And
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now we know you are.
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Back in 1995 Lamont Dotton was 21 years
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old and a freshman. at Queens College when
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one evening he didn't come home.
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Within 48 hours his mother was at
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a local police precinct trying to report him
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missing. His name was added to
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a pile of almost 20,000 cases
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that the NYPD's missing person squad
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was supposed to be investigating and the
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Montz case fell through the cracks. This
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is a story about the New York City Police Department
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and a woman searched to find out what happened to her
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son.
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It took me 30 days to
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get him officially reported
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missing. My
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name is Dr. Anita Fowler and
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Lamont Dutton was my son who went missing
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in 1995. I
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remember walking in to the
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precinct there
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were four room of people scurvy
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around while I was talking to a man who's
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being very nonchalant with me. Now
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here I'm a mother trying to report my
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one and only child missing
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and no matter what I said he says no
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take my word for it, be home soon you know.
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He was considered an adult.
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There was a Hispanic lady listening
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and she came over she said I'll
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take your report I'm not sure how
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far I can get it and
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then I called at least twice
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a week at night because that's when they would
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work the shift from missing persons.
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One day turned into two days and two days
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turned into three days and unbelievably months.
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I
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definitely remember his mom
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being very persistent.
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My name is Cameron Brown. I was a detective
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in the missing persons apartment from 1997 to 2002.
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She would constantly
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call the missing persons if you want to know
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what was going on today what was happening.
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But they refused to meet
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with me and just
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said there's no update or we have a new detective
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on it.
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The case kept opening the closings and
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And one time I showed up and his picture wasn't even
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on the board.
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So I said, how are you searching for my son if his
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picture's not here?
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The missing person's squad at that
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time was in a
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state of disrepair.
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There was no work being done
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on cases. Record keeping
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wasn't good. I'm
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Philip Mahoney. I was the
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commanding officer of the missing person squad
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in the New York City Police Department from 1998 to 2000.
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The amount of case law that each
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individual detective had there was amazing.
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This was 10, 11 detectives
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with between 20 and 40 cases apiece.
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And there was not a lot of investigation. They
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didn't have vehicles for us to actually
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go out and do the interviews. It was
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just mostly phone calls at that point.
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You know, hi, this is Detective Brown. You
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made a report on someone's own missing. Did they come home?
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Okay, thank you.
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I remember looking at this spreadsheet
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of open missing person cases. It
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just went on for like 100 pages. Someone
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with an adult missing son, that
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would be low on the totem pole.
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This article is from the Daily News, November
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21st, 1995. Carlos
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resident, Arnita Fowler, hadn't had time
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to prepare for Thanksgiving. She's
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been to busy checking city hospitals,
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the morgue and jails, and a desperate search for
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her 21-year-old son. I
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was known as a one-woman search party.
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I created my own press conferences.
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I learned how to write press releases on the fly.
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I would look in every
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homeless person's face as
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I walked the streets.
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I go, weren't that
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crazy? But
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I know that I could not live the rest of my life.
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life not knowing
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if he was out there.
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I was 17 when I had
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my son and everything I
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did evolved around him.
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He was a
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very loving, very loving son.
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He had that spirit of happiness
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with them, you know what I mean? Like carefree.
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We were always together.
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And I know he was saying, my mom's going to find
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me.
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I became lieutenant and commanding officer
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of the missing person squad in 1998. Then
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I immediately tried to organize the missing
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person squad. And so we appointed a couple
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of people to go through that list, the
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hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of active
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cases that had accumulated
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over the years, page by page,
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name by name, and find out what happened to
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these people that the missing person squad
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never followed up on.
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It felt good. I was actually
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out doing investigations. And we
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had two or three cases from the 50s. And
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when you really go back and still speak to parents, that
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same pain of their child being missing was still
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there.
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They would start with very basic checks, fingerprint
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checks and so on. We did find
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a lot of people through routine checks.
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I spent four years
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looking for my son. And
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then this one particular night, I was so
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frustrated that
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I picked up the phone in frustration
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and
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called. And the same man who
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had been telling me no, it was the same guy. He
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said, sure, we'll meet you.
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And when it came, my
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house was full. And it
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was a lady officer.
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She said
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they had discovered that they hadn't dotted every I
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across every T. Okay.
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So I'm reading from a missing
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person's report. The report says that
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the missing person was found. And
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the FBI matched it with an arrest that
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was made.
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He was arrested for a stolen
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car when he was in high school.
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The NYPD never followed up
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for results of that identification
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until 1994 years later.
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On this date, the deceased was identified as
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a mud dot through fingerprints. In
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view of the facts stated above, the undersigned recommends
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that this case be marked closed.
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I couldn't imagine that
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this was the outcome
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after four years. I
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don't know how
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he died. I
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do not believe it was suicide
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and there was no book for Strahm,
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nothing indicating foul play.
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This is a paper that
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shows where my son was buried
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at in Hartzelland. There's
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no name, it just says Mel.
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To bury my son in a place
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as though he had no one,
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as though he had no one, and I'm
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in your face, but
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he was somebody's child. And
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it shows a date of death
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and the day he was exhumed four
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years later.
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I remember opening the paper and seeing
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the picture of the body and the horse drawing carrots
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going around. Queens. I
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was like, wow, we had that case, look. And
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we're all looking at it. I
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just can't imagine any of my children
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not coming home. home. We're
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not knowing what happened to him.
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This is the Daily News September 21st, 1999. Student
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laid to rest. Four years
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after being buried in a papa's grave, a missing
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Queens student was finally given a proper
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burial yesterday. And
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it was a perfect funeral.
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He was drawn by two
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horses and a
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carriage.
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And Casketed stuff is
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all right,
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like the horses.
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It is what I believe
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that he deserved nothing but the best. I
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needed memories to be something
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that you could reflect on who
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he was, the
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prince that he was to me. President
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Lamont is now buried at the Calverton
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National Cemetery. I just
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went there yesterday and put flowers. I just took pictures
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there.
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There are seasons of my
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feelings that shift. One
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major shift was when I realized he's
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been gone longer than he's been with me.
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But I can, as a mother, still
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smell what he smelled like, still hear what he
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laughed like. And I'm looking at his picture. I
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can imagine what he's actually sounding
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like. So it's just really
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people just don't disappear.
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Following years of advocacy by Fowler,
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New York State passed a law in 2016
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requiring the police to expedite searches
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for missing adults. It's called Lamont
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Dutton's law. In recent
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years, advances in fingerprinting and DNA
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technology have improved the identification
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of unnamed bodies in New York City. This
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is the last episode in our series, The Unmarked
13:56
Graveyard, stories from Heart Island. When
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working on this series, Heart Island has been mostly
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off limits, as it has been for 150
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years. But
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today, we are able to report that Heart Island
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is officially opening to the general public.
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Tours begin this week.
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When we first started thinking about this project, I kind
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of imagined it as a series of audio obituaries
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for people who never got one. But
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each story became more than that. More
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complicated, more mysterious, more
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surprising. In the end,
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this series isn't just about individuals
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buried on Heart Island. It's about the
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people who went looking for them, and the people
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who remember them. Because
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once the body is gone, all that's left
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are the stories. Our
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story about Lamont Daughton was produced by Elisa
14:48
Scarse. The producers behind
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our series, the Unmarked Graveyard, are
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Nellie Gillis, Micah Hazel, Elisa Scarse,
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and myself. All the stories were edited
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by Ben Shapiro and Deborah George. Our NPR
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editor was Matt Ozug. Sound mixing
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by Ben Shapiro and Mitra Kiboli. Marketing
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and development by Lena Engelstein. Theme
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music is by Matthias Bossi and Stellwagen
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Symphonette. Thanks to Melinda
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Hunt and the Heart Island Project. And thanks
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to our broadcast partner NPR's All Things
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Considered. We're proud members of
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Radiotopia from PRX, a network
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of independent, creator-owned, listener-supported
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podcasts. You can hear them all at
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radiotopia.fm. Radiodeyeres
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has support from the National Endowment for the Humanities,
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the Lilly Auchincloss Foundation, New
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York City's Department of Cultural Affairs, and
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for listeners like you. I'm
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Joe Richmond of Radiodeyeres. Thanks
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for listening.
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