This is a conversation between a Black man and a white woman about living Black in America.  We discuss what it's like for Leslie to be constantly on guard for what white people will think about him or do to him based solely on his skin.   We dive into the constant mental struggle and trauma of living Black in America, what that feels like in real life scenarios, and the post traumatic stress that has been passed on through generations and continues to be with every murder and harassment of a Black person.    Recorded May 30 2020

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