In this episode, Jaz had a delightful conversation with Jocelyn and Shanon from the Real Friend's Pod. The recording occurred in October 2023, where the trio discussed Shanon and Jocelyn's enduring friendship spanning over twenty years. They shared stories of being there for each other through thick and thin, epitomizing the essence of "ride or die" friends. Additionally, they explored the secrets to maintaining a healthy friendship, offering tips, tricks, and insights on keeping a friendship strong, supportive, and fun. Topics ranged from the importance of communication, trust, and loyalty in friendships to a comparison between platonic and romantic relationships. They delved into the impact of media and societal norms on our perceptions and expectations of relationships, emphasizing the need for mindfulness regarding our well-being. The conversation also touched upon recognizing when it's time to move on from a relationship, discussing setting boundaries, and the trio shared thoughts on knowing when a relationship no longer serves us. Amidst laughter and clinking glasses, it became a memorable and joyous experience 🥂.