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My story is not particularly scary, but it is a little strange. We

1:36

took my two younger cousins aged 12 and 10 with

1:38

us. The

1:40

route took us along the A65, which

1:43

runs past the Dove Stone Reservoir

1:45

and across part of Saddleworth Moor.

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Saddleworth Moor has a dark history and

1:51

in bad weather can be a very

1:53

desolate and sometimes dangerous place. We

1:56

Stuck to the road because knowing that the weather

1:58

can change very quickly, The out there we

2:01

didn't want to end of last wandering around

2:03

and trying to step in a peat bog

2:05

which can swallow you up and you'll never

2:07

be found again. The weather

2:10

was perfect when we set off

2:12

and dogs don't Reservoir was beautiful

2:14

sparkling in the sunshine. We.

2:16

We're almost at the halfway point when the

2:18

weather changed. Very, very quickly.

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The missed or more grime

2:23

as locals call it came

2:25

down. We. Could not see

2:27

much more than ten feet in. Front of us.

2:30

The. Miss was west and seeped.

2:32

Through clothing very quickly. My.

2:35

Mom said we could stop and wait

2:37

it out under water proof tarpaulin. That

2:40

she had brought with her or we could carry

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on. We. Decided to

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on. After a short

2:46

while, three sheath jumped over a crumbling, dry

2:49

stone wall and crossed in front of my

2:51

mom. and I swear she jumped a whole

2:53

foot off the ground which made us all

2:55

giggle and lifted our spirits. On.

2:58

We went. Trudging. Along this

3:00

road with only the occasional car crawling

3:03

past and the blessing of sheep in

3:05

the distance. We. Sang silly

3:07

songs and just made the most of it.

3:10

All the while, the missed swirled around

3:12

us. After

3:15

some time we came across a pub.

3:17

The. Building was white and had a cartwheel

3:20

on the wall outside. There.

3:22

Were lights on inside and so we

3:24

went in. Hoping. For a

3:26

hot drink and some shelter from the missed.

3:30

Inside, the lights were all on and it

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all seemed pretty normal Apart from one thing.

3:35

There. Was not another soul

3:37

insight. The. Entire place

3:40

was empty. We. Cause

3:42

out hello. a couple of times but nobody

3:44

came. After a

3:46

few minutes, Mom said we should probably just

3:48

keep going. There was a cafe at

3:50

the end of this road and me to warm up when

3:52

we got there. So. We left.

3:56

We often talk about this bold and both my mom

3:58

and I remember the pulled being. And

4:00

having a cartwheel outside. We.

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Joke about it being creepy. But here's

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the thing. When.

4:07

I google Pope's on. That road. The

4:11

only one there is a sandstone building

4:13

which is a dirty sand color and

4:15

looks nothing like the poll by Remember.

4:18

There. Were other pubs in the area in

4:20

the past. But. None of those

4:22

looks like the pope we are member either. Years

4:26

later, as an adult, we drove along

4:28

that road and there was no pope

4:30

matching my memory, which just made me

4:32

wonder even more. Was. At a time

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it. Was. The Pope we

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saw all those years ago. Much older, Meaning.

4:39

That know photograph exist. Or.

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Did we imagine aid in our desire

4:44

to get out of the wet, cloying

4:46

missed? Oh I love. These sources,

4:48

time split weird stories first

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of all, the more that

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such dangerous places and, like

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you said, the weather changes.

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Quickly. Case in point: you're walking along.

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It's funny. It's useful. and then all of

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a sudden you're surrounded by this missed that.

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Soaks you through and it does make me

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wonder. About the very nature of

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being the very nature of our

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world of our universe. Is this

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a times it? Is this an

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alternate. Universe that you just happen to

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get a glimpse health and his you

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are in a situation that maybe wasn't

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very pleasant in that your out of

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this hike and your west and probably.

5:25

Cold put your ear. Generally it sounds like

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you're in good spirits right? that you're singing

5:29

make in the most diverse. Walking.

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Along knowing that eventually you will

5:33

get this little cafe. so I

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don't think that your kind of

5:38

desire to get out of the

5:40

west missed made you are you

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know hallucinate or imagine this particular

5:44

pope. and maybe you're right, maybe

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it was too old that the

5:48

photograph silvers or maybe with never

5:50

listed as a pope you know

5:52

some some houses. In remote

5:54

areas would also. Operates as

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uphold maybe for some reason the.

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The since we're perfect as a in

6:02

the midst the weather the time of

6:04

year you free briefly. Into.

6:07

Another universe or stepped back in time and

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then I can't have it again. Even thought

6:11

of that gives me. The heebie jeebies cry

6:13

or think, what if you couldn't come back. And

6:16

say number two comes from John. So.

6:21

As I sit here in the Us. Listening

6:23

to Hurry our resident work ghost

6:25

do whatever it is he's doing

6:27

in the kitchen. He's not

6:29

bother and just like to potter around. I

6:31

thought I would take the time to send

6:33

you some of the stories my nan and

6:35

mom would tell. Us from the

6:37

early sixties too early seventies

6:39

roughly. It. A background.

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My. Nan and grand dad bought their has

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up in the corner of the street. Where

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they lived. Right next door

6:49

to Mayfield Pack in West in

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South Hampton. They. Did

6:53

this as my uncle, their firstborn had

6:55

learning disabilities and they felt having this

6:57

house would mean they were out of

6:59

the way of prying eyes. Plus.

7:02

The fact that none and granddad would not less

7:04

their son go to one of the hospitals that

7:06

were around back then. They're.

7:08

Ended up in seven of them in the

7:10

house and my mom was the only girl.

7:13

And the second eldest after my uncle

7:15

Norman and she had our own bedroom.

7:18

My. Mom told us several times as

7:20

kids and regularly having sleep over. that

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man's about a man that would look

7:25

around her bedroom door when she was

7:27

a teenager. She. Said she

7:29

knew it wasn't any of her younger. Brothers as

7:31

they were all little. And

7:33

their heads wouldn't reach near the top of

7:35

the door or her dad. As

7:37

he had hair and she could see that whoever

7:39

this man. Was he was a lot older

7:41

and had a bald head. She.

7:44

Would see him every night until she was

7:46

around seventeen or eighteen. But. Was

7:48

always told it was the light coming. Through

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the trees making shadows, She.

7:54

Would say she knew it wasn't as he would

7:56

focus, head around the door, stand there for a

7:58

bait and look at her before. so the going

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out of her room. She. Said he

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never actually did anything and never came all the

8:04

way into the room. My.

8:07

Name's labor at the time was a

8:09

lady called Norma. My non

8:11

would say norm. I would tell people proudly

8:13

that she was a witch who dealt in

8:15

black magic. With. That the black

8:17

magic was not by choice. Norm.

8:20

Out with a black woman and both

8:22

her biological parents for white. And.

8:24

Norma would tell my nan and

8:26

others that her powers came from

8:28

her being a throwback. As

8:30

she was the only biologically black child

8:33

in an all white family. Norma.

8:36

Was a psychic medium. And. Would

8:38

hold sounds as regularly as hers and I

8:40

other houses in the street. She.

8:42

Would also come out with things at random

8:44

that no one else knew. My.

8:47

Uncle Norman who have learning difficulties

8:49

would never use his name. when

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asked what was. He would

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instead point to himself and. Say

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Dig dig dello. One

8:58

day, Norma and by now we're

9:01

chatting and Norman was playing in

9:03

the garden. Norma.

9:05

Said to my nan. you know match. This isn't

9:07

his first life. He. Was royalty

9:09

the last time around? Dig Dig

9:11

dello was his old name. And

9:14

other time than and granddad were enormous,

9:17

having a proper. Norma.

9:19

Looks at my grandad he was death due to being

9:21

on a ship that blew up in the war. And.

9:24

Said. Out you

9:26

were on a submarine at one point. you

9:28

are on the top bunk. number seventeen. Granddad

9:31

would never talk about the war. But.

9:34

When Norma said this man said he took

9:36

out his hearing aid, stood up and said

9:38

you know too much woman and then walked

9:40

out of the house. Nor.

9:43

I would all sees the wage aboard to help

9:45

her contacts the other side and most of the

9:48

time this would go fine. Of. Course,

9:50

the times that didn't we all heard about

9:52

it as our bedtime stories. That man's house.

9:56

One. time nor am i wasn't feeling

9:58

well and asked if someone could half

10:00

the burden as she called it. My

10:02

mum volunteered. Norma reminded

10:05

everyone that if they wanted to know

10:07

something then they had to think the

10:09

question as you would be the

10:11

only one to know if the answer was right. Mum

10:14

said after this she never did the Ouija board

10:17

again and she said she could hear every question

10:19

even though no one was talking and

10:21

she knew every answer before it was spelled out.

10:24

She said it was like having someone whisper in her ear

10:26

but no one was actually speaking out

10:28

loud if that makes sense. Another

10:32

time Nan, Norma and two other women

10:34

that they were friends and neighbours with

10:36

were sat around the board in my

10:38

Nan's house. Nan said

10:40

they had been using it for a while when

10:42

one of the other women said she could see

10:45

a little red light in my Nan's dining room

10:47

window sort of dancing. Norma

10:49

looked and said they were to finish

10:51

and say goodbye so they did but

10:54

it didn't end there. Nan

10:57

and the two other women became ill

10:59

like took to their beds ill. They

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all told Norma the same thing at different

11:04

times over the next few days when they

11:06

were better but none of them were 100%

11:09

still. They had

11:11

all had a very vivid dream that the

11:13

devil had been standing at the end of

11:16

their beds. Norma

11:18

had asked my Nan if he had been holding

11:20

a pitchfork to which my Nan said no. Nan

11:24

always said that as she said no Norma

11:27

had let out a breath and said

11:29

good he hasn't claimed your

11:31

soul. Norma then asked

11:33

my Nan to get the glass they had used

11:35

on the board as they always

11:37

used the same one so Nan

11:39

went and fetched it. Norma

11:42

took it into my Nan's back garden where

11:44

there was a concrete pebble dashed path. Norma

11:47

threw the glass as hard as she could at

11:49

the path and the bloody thing

11:51

bounced. She threw it

11:54

twice more but it didn't break. Norma

11:57

turned to Nan and told her to take it to

11:59

the church. and have the glass

12:01

washed in the font and get her

12:03

crucifix blessed by the vicar at the same time.

12:06

Then take the glass home and smash it. Nan

12:10

did as she was asked and said

12:12

that once her crucifix had been blessed and

12:14

she put it back on around her neck,

12:16

she felt absolutely fine and well. She

12:19

took the glass home, threw it down

12:21

on the path and it smashed. This

12:24

was, I believe, the last time my Nan ever

12:26

touched a Ouija board and she

12:28

would always warn all of us never

12:30

to play with one. Now before anybody

12:32

questions it, apparently it is absolutely very

12:35

possible to have a black child born

12:37

to two white parents. It's basically

12:39

referred to as a throwback

12:41

gene and I find it

12:43

really interesting that Norma referred to herself

12:46

as being a throwback. But apparently

12:48

it's all about recessive and dominant

12:50

genes and ancestry and

12:52

it's very interesting if you read

12:54

about it. This is not relevant to

12:56

the story whatsoever but I hope

13:00

that in that period of time, in the

13:02

60s and 70s, that

13:04

Norma didn't experience terrible

13:07

racism but I can only imagine being

13:10

the only black child to an all white

13:12

family in that period of time. I just

13:15

get the feeling that people probably would have

13:17

been pretty racist and that would have been

13:19

grim. And I would question, you know, with

13:22

modern sensibilities, how much of

13:24

her belief that her affinity

13:26

towards black magic was because

13:29

of her being a throwback, as she put

13:31

it, was actually down

13:33

to elements of racism and a

13:36

lack of understanding of the genetic

13:38

complexities that are at play in

13:40

situations like this. But besides

13:42

all of the sociological complexities of it all,

13:45

it does sound like she was pretty badass.

13:47

And to be really clear, if I meet

13:49

a woman who is able

13:51

to tell me stuff about my past life

13:54

or able to tell me bits and

13:56

pieces about the future and she's like, do you want to

13:58

play Ouija board? I'm like, no, not with you. You

14:00

not with you you spooky

14:02

woman? Said is fascinating as wow that

14:04

those women engaged and Luigi. Bores at that

14:07

time and all had the same. Situation.

14:10

You. Know they will talk to their base and then they had

14:12

a man standing at the end of their bad that they referred

14:15

to as the devil. But I suppose we. Don't have a or

14:17

frame of reference, you're just gonna call of the devil

14:19

rice. And Norm is like oh yeah,

14:21

no, that's not the devil, but we probably

14:23

should destroy this glass this plan set and

14:26

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15:54

I've. Been intrigued by the paranormal since

15:56

a very young age because my mom

15:58

always told my brother. me stories

16:01

about her paranormal experiences

16:03

during her childhood. This

16:05

story takes place in Colonia Bella

16:07

Vista at Ponce de Leon Street

16:10

in Chihuahua in Mexico. Yes,

16:12

that Chihuahua where episode 191 La Pascalita is at.

16:14

My mom and her friends

16:20

had to stop there to catch a bus but

16:22

never experienced anything while Pascalita was in full

16:24

display at the front of the bridal shop

16:26

in case you were wondering. It's

16:29

still creepy nonetheless. What

16:31

I'm About to Tell You happened to my

16:33

mom around the age of seven or eight and

16:36

she remembers this as if it were yesterday. My

16:39

mom is 74 years old and every time

16:41

she tells me this story she vividly remembers what

16:44

I am about to tell you. It

16:47

was my mom Manuela and her

16:49

sister Martha and their friend Consuelo.

16:52

Martha was about a year and a half older than

16:54

my mom and her friend was about the same age

16:56

as my mom. My

16:58

mom her sister and her friend were outside

17:00

playing with paper dolls. As

17:03

her mom was going to leave to visit her

17:05

sister she asked for them to go and

17:07

wash the dishes before she got home. At around

17:10

11 a.m. my mom her sister and her

17:12

friend went inside the house. The

17:15

house was a one-story four-bedroom house.

17:18

As they entered the house and went into the

17:20

kitchen they opened the curtains to the kitchen. The

17:24

homes in Mexico at that time were very different.

17:26

The curtains were placed to divide the rooms

17:29

and to have privacy from the other rooms.

17:32

As my mom her sister and their friend

17:34

walked into the kitchen their eyes

17:36

shifted directly to a thin woman who

17:38

was levitating in front of them. Her

17:42

head was covered with a black shawl. She

17:44

was wearing a grey blouse with black polka A

17:48

black skirt with two pockets on the front, black

17:50

stockings and round toe

17:53

thick heels with laces. Her

17:56

face and body were solid but pale

17:58

and her arms were crossed. Her

18:01

stare was directly straight, but

18:03

my mom's friend Consuelo shouted, Oh

18:05

my God, that's Mrs. Maria. Mrs.

18:09

Maria then turned into a cloud of black smoke

18:11

and went straight up through the ceiling. They

18:14

all ran outside to Consuelo's house and told

18:16

her mom what they had seen. Consuelo's

18:18

mom told the girls to stay put

18:21

and not leave until my mom's mom

18:23

got home. Consuelo's

18:25

mom went over and told my grandmother

18:27

what the girls had experienced. Mrs.

18:31

Maria suffered alone in that home until

18:33

her passing. Her nieces

18:35

were responsible for caring for her, but

18:37

neglected her and left her alone for

18:39

hours at a time. Consuelo's

18:42

mom remembered how this poor woman would

18:44

look out through the window with such

18:46

sadness. After her

18:48

passing, the house went up for rent. This

18:51

home was not owned by Mrs. Maria

18:53

or her nieces. They were also renting

18:55

the home and the nieces moved out

18:58

after Mrs. Maria's passing. My

19:00

grandparents rented that house since they were looking for

19:02

a place and that house had been for rent

19:05

since the passing of Mrs. Maria, which

19:07

had been less than a year and

19:09

it had remained vacant for that long until my

19:12

mom and her family moved in. A

19:15

week after seeing Mrs. Maria, the

19:17

noises in that house started. Loud,

19:20

painful moaning sounds. The

19:23

curtains would move on their own. My

19:25

grandmother, my mom and my mom's

19:27

sister, Martha and Kika, got

19:29

home. My grandmother's wrist

19:31

was grabbed with such force when she was

19:34

looking for the key through the cracked window

19:36

to open the door. She

19:38

thought it was one of her daughters,

19:40

Hortensia, who loved playing jokes on everyone,

19:43

especially scaring her mom and her siblings.

19:46

My grandmother yelled, Hortensia, stop playing and

19:48

let go of my wrist. It hurts.

19:50

Let go. As

19:53

she kept yelling for Hortensia to stop,

19:55

Whatever it was kept squeezing her wrist

19:58

tighter and tighter. It

20:00

lasted for a long time. Which.

20:03

Felt like fifteen minutes of this cruel

20:05

joke they thought Hortensia was playing on

20:07

her. Once. Whatever it

20:09

was like, over raced. She felt a cold

20:12

breeze go through her arm. She's.

20:14

Finally able to grab the key and open the

20:16

door with the house was empty. Hortensia.

20:19

Later arrived with her boyfriend and was told

20:21

of what happened. It was

20:23

Not her. And She did not

20:26

want to experience anything like this. So.

20:28

She packed her belongings and move in with

20:30

her grandmother. It took them

20:32

about a month to find a place and move out of

20:34

that house of the never went back. Fast.

20:37

Forward to the made Nineteen eighties. My.

20:40

Mom's brother passed away and at the funeral

20:42

her knees gave her the knees that she

20:44

was living in their old house. She.

20:47

Did not think of anything because what the

20:49

experience was many years ago. As he

20:51

thought the house of be okay to live in. She.

20:54

Did not end up living there for long because of

20:56

the noise as she would hear. Buying.

20:58

Under windows and doors slamming

21:00

at night. Mrs. Maria. Is

21:03

out here. Forking said up,

21:05

it sounds absolutely terrifying to

21:07

go. Into the kitchen this is

21:09

woman levitating first of all nut we are expecting

21:11

to see that what you want to see and

21:14

then see sparse into a puff of black smoke

21:16

and go straight through the ceiling that is more

21:18

than like. Just. Your standard

21:20

ghostly endeavors. And maybe

21:22

it was a combination of the way she

21:24

was treated by her niece's that she wasn't

21:27

looks after property like Ramzi. The was a

21:29

lot of sadness and. Potentially.

21:31

Anger. In the house.

21:33

And. Maybe she wasn't ready to go

21:35

because it sounds like see is making

21:38

herself known. with noises, banging et and

21:40

grabbing onto your grandmother's wrist and my

21:42

cursing at squeezy it until it hurt

21:44

that very physical and that's very. That's

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very much. I do not like you.

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I do not want you here and

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the fact that it was still going

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Maria, you know is he? it does.

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She does not want other people in

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