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Ep. #665: Ray Kurzweil, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Chris Matthews

Ep. #665: Ray Kurzweil, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Chris Matthews

Released Saturday, 29th June 2024
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Ep. #665: Ray Kurzweil, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Chris Matthews

Ep. #665: Ray Kurzweil, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Chris Matthews

Ep. #665: Ray Kurzweil, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Chris Matthews

Ep. #665: Ray Kurzweil, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Chris Matthews

Saturday, 29th June 2024
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2:01

Wow, huh? Huh?

2:07

Did you see the debate? In case

2:12

you missed it, don't worry, so did one of

2:14

the contestants. I

2:19

mean, wow,

2:21

I mean, Trump told lie after lie after lie.

2:24

He never would have gotten away with that if

2:26

Joe Biden was there. Oh, wow.

2:32

Oh, Joe. Joe. Come

2:35

on, man. Joe. You know,

2:37

Joe, he famously loves trains, but apparently

2:39

not of thought. I

2:45

mean, just

2:50

all night confused and halting and

2:52

trailing off. I've seen beauty pageant

2:55

contestants answer questions better. I

2:58

mean, I

3:03

don't

3:07

want to say he shit the bed. His

3:11

new secret service name is Amber

3:13

Heard. I'm coming on. This guy

3:15

was bad. It

3:22

wasn't just what came out of his mouth. You know,

3:24

I mean, the look on his face the whole night,

3:26

he just looked like somebody just

3:28

thought he'd left the stove on, you know? I

3:35

mean, the last time CNN covered

3:38

some of this

3:41

lost. I got to go

3:43

back to that Malaysian airline plane that went down

3:46

in the

3:48

Pacific. Here's

3:55

the most ironic part. The Republicans were so

3:57

afraid that Joe was going to be

3:59

beating expectations. Remember they, last week they

4:01

were like he's gonna be jacked up. They

4:06

put out all this crap of a jacked up

4:08

he's gonna have a secret earpiece in. Really? Who

4:13

was on the other end of it? Jimmy Carter? At

4:26

one point Trump was winning by so much

4:28

that he started to talk about golf. He

4:31

just said, fuck it, golf. Fuck

4:34

it, you know what? This happened in America

4:36

formerly a real country. And

4:45

if that wasn't enough, Trump looked

4:47

thinner. Some people said he's on his epic. No, that

4:49

is not what it is. He just lies his

4:51

ass off. That's what it is.

4:54

So look, we're

4:59

obviously gonna have a perfect night to be on. We're

5:01

gonna talk about it soon. But

5:03

for now, Democrats have some hard

5:05

conversations they'd have to have. Joe

5:07

Biden, noble guy, did

5:10

a great thing when he got elected president,

5:12

did very well for three years, but now

5:15

there is no toothpaste left in that tube.

5:20

And we either walk around with bad

5:22

breath or green teeth or walk into

5:24

his EVS and sharp-lift a new tube.

5:28

First up, we have Tulsi Gabbard and Chris

5:30

Matthews are here.

5:32

First up, he is an inventor,

5:34

futurist, and New York Times bestselling

5:37

author whose new book is called

5:39

The Singularity is Neera When We

5:41

Merge with AI Ray Kurzweil. Ray,

5:46

great to see you

5:48

again. How are you?

5:52

You look good. You

5:54

look good, Ray. Are you still having 200 pills

5:56

a day? No, I'm down to 70.

5:59

70? I have about about the same. Congratulations

6:01

on your book by the way. That's science

6:03

right? We're putting good things in our body.

6:06

Right? Okay. So I'm

6:08

so anxious to have you on. I want to place

6:10

you in case people don't know who you are. Nobody

6:12

has been more on AI than you, from the last

6:15

century when people were not even thinking of it. I

6:17

mean I never thought of AI. The only time I

6:19

ever thought of AI was the one Spielberg movie I

6:21

didn't like. Only

6:24

for 61 years. 61

6:26

years, yeah. And

6:28

you, yeah, obviously you're Google's main

6:30

AI guy. But, I mean, back

6:32

in 1999, you were

6:34

talking about this going on with AI

6:36

and the singularity. And you said in

6:38

2029, you had a whole book about

6:40

it. You said that's when human, that

6:42

would achieve human level intelligence. Hasn't it

6:44

already? Uh, depends.

6:46

Not really. Okay. I'm

6:49

still saying 2029, other

6:53

people are saying two years, three years, four

6:55

years. When I said

6:57

that in around 2000, everybody

7:00

thought it's going to take 100 years. Right.

7:04

And 30 years was very optimistic. But

7:09

human level intelligence, I thought it had far

7:11

surpassed us because it can do so many

7:13

things we can't. Yes.

7:15

I mean you can ask it anything

7:17

in philosophy, psychology, physics, and it will

7:20

give you a very good

7:22

answer. And if you don't like that,

7:24

you can ask it again. It will give you another

7:26

answer that's also good. Right. But

7:29

there's a few things it doesn't do. It doesn't

7:32

create art the way a

7:34

master artist would do.

7:36

Thank you. Okay,

7:42

so the

7:45

next prediction, and by the way, you have many other predictions.

7:48

Didn't you predict the end of the Soviet Union, like within

7:50

a couple of years? Yeah. Okay.

7:52

So, I mean, there's nobody like you. I

7:54

just want people to understand that. You

7:57

say 2045. This is

7:59

when we... basically become a hybrid

8:01

species when we merge in

8:04

the cloud with the

8:06

machines basically. You're

8:08

sticking with that 2045 because that's 20 years away. Let

8:13

me tell you folks, 20 years goes fast, young

8:15

people. You

8:17

say, oh, you'll be there

8:19

tomorrow. We'll stay

8:22

alive during that period. We're going

8:24

to reach longevity escape velocity where

8:26

we go a year and

8:28

our longevity actually increases by a year, so we're

8:31

not going to actually succumb to

8:33

aging. So

8:35

we hope. Well,

8:38

you can have a 20-year-old who has a longevity

8:40

of many decades and they could die tomorrow, so

8:42

it's not a guarantee. Oh, but can

8:45

I just have the 20-year-old? Okay,

8:50

but

8:53

explain to me what this means merging in the cloud.

8:59

What if I want to opt out of that? My

9:02

mother used to say, don't live with your head in the clouds.

9:05

Now you want me to live with my head. First

9:07

of all, what does that mean, my head

9:09

merge in the cloud? Well, you've got lots

9:11

of connections in your brain. We have a

9:14

certain size brain so that we're more intelligent

9:16

than other animals, but

9:18

we'd actually like to increase that. We'd like to

9:20

become more intelligent. So we'll actually

9:22

go to the cloud. The cloud doubles in capacity

9:25

every year, so that'll

9:28

actually make us more intelligent. So

9:30

it'll be just like we are now, except it'll be

9:32

a lot more intelligent than we were before. See,

9:35

you're so optimistic about this. I'm

9:38

sure you've thought about it a zillion times more than

9:40

I have, but... Well, there's some

9:42

downsides also. Okay, good. I'm glad you

9:45

acknowledge it, because what I read in

9:47

your book, I mean, you say, like

9:49

you used the phrase, will be freed

9:51

from our skulls. Let

9:53

me read this quote. Do you say,

9:55

the most commonly discussed worst case scenario

9:58

is the potential to create... of gray

10:00

goo. Self-replicating machines that

10:03

consume carbon-based matter and turn it

10:05

into more self-replicating machines, such a

10:07

process could lead to a runaway

10:10

chain reaction, potentially converting the entire

10:12

biomass of the earth to such

10:14

machines. Instead of trying to add

10:17

security features to an inherently dangerous

10:19

system, we must build nanobots that

10:21

are naturally fail-safe. Well

10:23

that's a downside, yeah. We're

10:33

trying to avoid that, I think we will, but

10:35

I mean there are downsides to everything. But see

10:38

here's that, I mean we've had atomic weapons really

10:41

since I was a small child. We'd actually get

10:43

under our desk, put our hands behind our head,

10:45

to protect us from a nuclear war.

10:47

I remember. And it worked. Okay,

10:50

but that was so

10:53

far, so far, yes,

10:55

because of something called mutually assured

10:57

destruction. I don't know if we

10:59

have that here. See when you

11:01

say instead of building security features,

11:03

we must only build nanobots that

11:05

are fail-safe. We, I

11:07

think you're forgetting about bad guys, Ray.

11:10

What about bad guys? There's still bad

11:12

guys out here, and before we merge

11:14

with the cloud and become this great

11:16

hybrid species, don't worry about the bad

11:19

guys using this before we even get

11:21

there. Absolutely, and they're out there and

11:23

they're causing problems, but

11:28

as we create these things we're actually putting more effort

11:30

into avoiding what

11:33

bad guys will do to it, then

11:35

we're actually creating these new capabilities. So

11:39

we're keeping up with them, but we

11:42

constantly have to fight bad

11:44

uses of these technologies. And

11:46

what about jobs? When

11:49

everyone's living in the cloud? Well

11:53

we've had that since we've had the

11:55

low-light movement 200 years ago. I

11:57

mean we have the cotton, jenny,

11:59

and other things. things that would

12:02

eliminate jobs and

12:04

people were very worried about that and those

12:07

jobs did go away and we

12:09

say well we're gonna create new jobs and people

12:11

say well what's new jobs and you could say

12:13

well you can be a social media influencer. No

12:20

one would know what you're talking about. Right but

12:23

what jobs do you think I mean you're the great

12:25

seer of the future what what jobs will be created

12:28

by this. It's

12:30

not really us versus AI we're

12:32

gonna merge our two we're gonna

12:34

put AI inside our bodies

12:36

and outside our bodies that we go

12:39

through wireless communications

12:41

to enhance ourselves so

12:44

it's not going to be us versus

12:47

AI we're gonna enhance our capabilities through

12:49

AI and make ourselves much smarter than

12:51

we are now so

12:54

we'll be doing these jobs anything

12:58

that really

13:00

turns you on will will

13:03

be able to do because we'll be

13:05

that much smarter. Well speaking about how

13:07

will this affect sex? I

13:19

mean applause for the question. Yes

13:23

it'll become better. It'll become better?

13:25

Yeah. I'm not

13:27

sure for everyone I mean can

13:33

you describe AI

13:35

sex? I mean

13:38

we just have to think about it. I know you say some things

13:40

that we do now we're just gonna have to think about

13:43

I mean you just you're talking

13:45

about acting you said you know if somebody

13:51

has to actually. Right we'll have virtual reality where

13:53

you can go into something and it'll be just

13:55

like real but

13:57

it'll be done within your mind.

14:00

virtual reality will become that much

14:02

more enhancing. They

14:05

wound our body's atrophy? No,

14:09

but we won't be limited to

14:12

just one body. We won't be

14:14

limited to just one body. Yeah. I

14:16

don't get it. Meaning?

14:21

You can, I mean in virtual reality today,

14:23

you can have a different body than you.

14:25

Like an avatar. Yeah,

14:27

but it can be very realistic. I

14:30

hope. It

14:34

depends on your imagination. Yeah, I mean, I can't wrap

14:36

my head around this. I don't even know if I

14:38

want to live in this brave new world, but I

14:40

get it. We're not going to have a choice. That's

14:43

the thing. And of course, what I do

14:45

hope, I do like living. I

14:48

do want to keep living. Some people don't. There are lots

14:50

of people who say, no, you know what? They say they

14:52

don't want to live. I don't want to live

14:54

past 95. They get to 95, they don't

14:56

want to die the next day. Exactly.

15:00

And you think this will be able to... People

15:02

only want to die if they're in terrible pain.

15:04

Right. Physical,

15:06

emotional, spiritual. Otherwise,

15:09

they want to continue. Regardless of what they said,

15:11

you know, 20 years earlier. Alright. Well,

15:14

I hope I have you back on the

15:16

show in 20 years when we're both still

15:18

with you. Great first while, everybody. Thank you

15:20

very much, Professor. Alright, let's lead our panel.

15:23

Thank you, Ray. Okay.

15:30

Hi. Alright, he's the

15:33

legendary broadcaster and general who wrote this country, my

15:35

life in politics and history. Chris

15:38

Matthews is over here. And

15:40

she was Hawaii's four-term congressman who

15:42

now serves as the lieutenant colonel

15:44

in the U.S. Army Reserve. And

15:48

is the author of For Love of Country. Leave the

15:50

Democrat Party behind. Tulsi

15:52

Gabbard, great to have you back. Um,

15:54

I gotta tell you... We

16:01

always have to book the panel a little bit in

16:03

advance because people have to fly in and so forth.

16:06

I can't think of a better panel for tonight. Chris,

16:08

first of all, missed you so

16:10

much on TV for just days

16:12

like this. And

16:15

you, I'm

16:18

dying to know your feeling about last night

16:20

because you ran for president as a Democrat

16:22

last time. You feel you got smeared, which

16:24

you have a case for. And

16:27

so I'm just dying to know your feelings, like

16:29

your real feelings about this. But let's just start

16:31

with this. Okay. We have two

16:33

Biden voters here, I think. I mean, I have

16:35

said before, I will vote for his head in

16:37

a jar of blue liquid. And

16:42

after last night, time to get the jar. I

16:52

know you're not a Biden voter, but just pretend that you

16:54

are for a minute, just for the sake of the party.

16:57

What should they do? Replace Biden

16:59

or not? Yes or no? The

17:03

problem is it's his decision.

17:06

He's got all the delegates that are

17:08

confirmed. There's nothing left

17:11

head between here and the convention. What

17:13

should you advocate the Democratic Party to

17:15

do? I advocate for them. And I

17:17

said it nine months ago with my

17:20

editorial called Ruth Bader Biden. Yeah, I

17:22

know. I should step down. That's

17:25

my position. That's some people's

17:27

position today. I think I just heard before

17:29

I went on that the New York Times

17:32

editorial board is asking him to step down.

17:34

And then there's other people. I heard all

17:36

the surrogates last night. Obama, Gavin Newsom. No,

17:38

stick with the guy. What

17:41

should they do? I say quit. I said it

17:43

a long time ago. And now I think it's

17:45

absolutely apparent that is the only way. The facts

17:47

only have to proud. What

17:53

happens? So he and

17:56

Dr. Biden decide they're going

17:58

to quit. out, give

18:00

it to somebody else. Who gets it? OK,

18:03

let's go through that scenario. Well, first of all,

18:05

what's your take on this? I think it doesn't

18:07

make a difference, quite frankly. If

18:09

you look at Joe Biden's policies and

18:12

you look at the prospect of any one

18:14

of the number of people who could replace

18:16

him should he decide to walk away, and

18:18

I agree with Chris, it is his decision,

18:21

ultimately all of these different policies

18:23

that have been destructive to our

18:25

country will continue. So all

18:28

this attention that's focused around, OK, well, should

18:30

he stay, should he go, to me, frankly,

18:32

deflects away from the substantive policy-centered conversation we

18:34

should be having as a country, as people

18:36

look at this choice they have to make.

18:38

Well, we should, but let's not pretend that

18:41

this country is falling apart or that Joe

18:43

Biden caused it to fall apart. He actually

18:45

didn't do a terrible job at all. And

18:47

a lot of the things he did have

18:49

helped this country. We came through the pandemic

18:51

better than any other country in the world.

18:53

We're not in any sort of depression or

18:55

even recession. The stock market is through the

18:57

roof. People aren't, like, dying in the streets.

18:59

Are you kidding? Yes, we have problems. Like,

19:01

every country has problems. But a different candidate

19:04

would make a huge difference, I think. Here's

19:06

from last night, the flash poll

19:08

afterward. Trump, they said, won 67 to 33. 33.

19:11

That number rings in my mind, because

19:13

you know what that number

19:17

is? That's the number you always see, very

19:19

close, 33, 34, 32, of the people who are

19:23

just always with their party. I mean, that

19:25

is Mrs. Goebbels in the bunker number. I

19:33

mean, you see- There's a woman that kills all her kids. Rather

19:37

than live in a world without

19:39

national socialism. Exactly. You see it

19:41

on the right. They used to

19:43

call them bertchers, birthers, tea party,

19:45

whatever, magination, whatever. They never move.

19:47

And now I feel like that's

19:50

a third of the Democrats who are like, they're going

19:52

to stick with this guy and they are going to

19:54

regret it. He is going to lose. I said it

19:56

nine months ago. I'm going to say it again tonight.

19:59

And now- It seems like it's so

20:01

apparent. Why? In

20:03

the real world, outside of the Biden world, it's

20:06

clear to me that another candidate

20:08

like Newsom, the governor of

20:10

California, could have

20:13

the dynamic to move from

20:15

June, right now, to

20:17

November and build up support to

20:19

match Trump's and maybe overtake him.

20:22

He could change the whole situation.

20:24

Absolutely. He could. The

20:27

problem is, and this is the Democratic

20:29

Party and the way it is, it's

20:32

a party of center left and

20:34

left. If he does that, Kamala

20:37

Harris people go, wait a minute, I'm

20:39

next. And he'll say, you're

20:41

right, you are next. Because that's what he's

20:43

saying right now. And that's the problem. But

20:46

here's the great thing about Newsom as the

20:48

candidate. She can't be his vice president. No,

20:51

she's next for president. You can't be, oh,

20:53

well. That's the problem. And

20:56

not the promise, the reality of this team. I'm not

20:58

sure that's even that big a problem for the Democrats.

21:00

People at the end of the day want to win.

21:03

Here's what's gonna, now I don't wanna

21:05

show a lot of the tape from last night because it's too

21:07

hard to look at. But. But

21:09

you show this one thing,

21:13

we picked out one thing. For

21:16

people who don't watch, and they watch this show to catch

21:18

up on the news, this is what

21:20

the Republicans are gonna show from now until

21:22

election day. Making sure that

21:25

we're able to make every single solitary person

21:29

eligible for what I've been able to do

21:31

with the COVID, excuse

21:33

me, with dealing with

21:36

everything we have to do with. See that head?

21:39

Look, if

21:43

we finally beat Medicare. Thank

21:45

you, President Biden. President Trump? He

21:48

was right, he did beat Medicare. He beat it to

21:50

death. You

21:52

see the head, the way he turned that head? He wanted

21:54

to, he knew the two shot would be

21:56

up there. He wanted to have his head turning like, let's

21:58

watch the guy show how crazy. he is. He's

22:01

looking for it. Look, this is this

22:03

election. You're blaming men on Trump? No,

22:05

I'm watching his theatrical

22:07

ability. He is playing this. Okay, but he

22:10

didn't have to do anything. I mean, he

22:12

came out, it reminded me of when Mike

22:14

Tyson used to knock guys out in 90

22:16

seconds. Like that was like

22:18

two minutes into the debate and I went, oh,

22:20

this election is over. I mean, that was like

22:23

a haymaker, right? Look, I'm watching the guy, he

22:25

is so fast on the trigger, I watched him,

22:27

he comes up with, well, he pulled out of

22:29

Afghanistan and a disastrous way. That's true. He didn't

22:32

fire anybody. He didn't fire Jake Tapper or any

22:34

of the generals. That's all true. Then he'll throw

22:36

in, oh, by the way, illegal people can get

22:38

Medicare and social security. Now they can't. He

22:41

just throws in the lies. He mixes up the

22:43

lies with some truth. Then Obama, I'm sorry, Biden

22:45

is not smart enough to keep up with him.

22:47

He just can't keep up with him. Well, that's,

22:49

isn't that the whole point? Yeah. I think you

22:51

need a guy to keep up with him. I

22:56

feel like

23:00

the whole rationale for

23:03

Biden running has always been, I'm the only

23:05

guy who can beat him. Now

23:07

I think it's inverted. I think he's the only

23:09

guy who could lose to him. I think you're

23:11

right. Or the guy who's, sure, or you agree.

23:13

Shouldn't they replace him? I'm talking

23:15

about what has to happen, but probably won't. When

23:18

you want to happen, what's going to happen? I

23:20

don't know. You know, I keep hearing all day

23:22

from these Democrats defending this. Like we can't abandon

23:25

Joe Biden. What about me? I

23:27

feel abandoned. I feel abandoned. I

23:29

have nobody to vote for. I just

23:32

want to say one

23:34

thing and I'll get

23:37

on the way. Look, to me, this election

23:39

is about fundamentals. It's about, I know you

23:41

disagree. This is about do we believe in

23:43

democracy? And it's not just some ethereal word.

23:45

Do you believe in the person who gets

23:47

the most votes in the electoral college should

23:49

be president? We've had guys like Nixon who

23:51

threw in the towel after Chicago and what

23:53

happened in Texas with Johnson and Hillary Clinton

23:56

had to throw it in after James Comey

23:58

makes his phone call days

24:00

out or the laptop stuff. This is

24:02

politics always has issues and in the

24:04

future it will always have close elections.

24:07

You can't say it's too close to

24:09

call. Trump did not

24:11

admit he lost in 2020. That's

24:13

my main issue. And all around the world.

24:15

I was in a peace corps out there.

24:18

I always bragged to myself and say, no,

24:20

we got these countries like Zimbabwe and they're

24:22

just starting off a democracy. But there's always

24:24

some clown who says it was a fixed

24:26

election or it was rigged. That's a joke.

24:28

In our country there's always somebody who on

24:30

election night, whether it was Adlai Stevenson or

24:32

somebody would come forward and say

24:35

John McCain, you know, or

24:37

Hillary Clinton the next morning and she sat

24:39

at the hotel Pennsylvania and said, I lost.

24:42

That's what Americans should do. You have to say,

24:45

I lost. Because that's what makes the system

24:47

work. I couldn't agree more. So

24:50

that's a good question for you. Well,

24:53

I think that,

24:55

I disagree with you. I think that

24:57

there are very serious issues that a

24:59

lot of these swing voters who are

25:01

still undecided are considering as they look

25:03

at the Biden administration's policies and the

25:05

policies that will continue, whether it's Joe

25:07

Biden or someone else replaces him, whether

25:09

it's issues like border security or the

25:11

insanity around the destruction of Title IX

25:13

and the rejection of, you know, a

25:16

boy is a boy and a girl

25:18

is a girl. They're looking at safety

25:20

in their communities, education system,

25:22

the economy. There are so many different issues

25:24

that people are considering. But I

25:26

want to point to, I think the

25:28

most important one that came through in

25:30

the debate last night was when Joe

25:32

Biden said, quote, the only existential threat

25:34

to humanity is climate change. The

25:38

fact that he said this, the only

25:40

existential threat to humanity is climate

25:42

change completely dismisses the fact that this is a

25:44

guy who has the nuclear

25:46

codes and yet is

25:49

not present enough and is actually insane.

25:51

And so far out of touch with

25:53

reality that he doesn't recognize that the

25:55

true existential threat to humanity, to our

25:57

country, to the world is the fact

26:00

that we are closer to nuclear holocaust

26:02

now than we ever have been before

26:04

in history. Well, sure. I mean, that's

26:06

a threat and climate is a threat and AI

26:08

is a threat. There's lots of- And

26:10

Trump is a threat. Well, this is the point. Let

26:14

me just finish this

26:16

point. If you are equating

26:20

a nuclear holocaust where we will

26:22

see children and mothers and fathers,

26:24

their skin melting off, the nuclear

26:26

blast- We don't have to describe

26:29

it. ... with AI and with

26:31

Trump. No, it's a serious issue

26:33

because this is what we're facing right now. But

26:36

I want to get back to the question he asked because you haven't answered it and I

26:38

want you to do. I mean, you're a patriot.

26:40

You fought for this country and we love you for

26:42

that. Is it the patriotic thing to

26:44

back someone who will not concede elections? And I'm

26:46

not talking about January 6th. They talked about it

26:48

a lot last night. To me, January 6th is

26:50

always going to be a murky thing. It

26:53

was a horrible, awful day in this

26:56

country's history, but Trump's

26:58

role in it is a little murky. Obviously,

27:01

he's Trump. He did the worst he possibly

27:03

could. But what he never did- Stop

27:05

the steal? What's incontrovertible is

27:07

that from the moment the

27:09

election happened, he never conceded.

27:12

He still has not conceded

27:14

the last election. You think

27:16

it's patriotic to back someone who treats America

27:18

that way? I

27:20

think what you've heard from Trump is the same thing

27:22

you've heard from Hillary Clinton, the same thing you've heard

27:25

from a lot of other people who have called him

27:27

an illegitimate president. Has not- He said

27:29

she never- That's a- She

27:31

did not- No, no, that's over

27:33

there. That's over there, Tulsi. We're talking

27:35

about he has not conceded the

27:37

last election. Can I quote to you,

27:40

I think I have it somewhere, the

27:42

quote from the- Oh, fuck.

27:44

I don't know. Here

27:46

it is. This is the

27:48

election's joint statement from

27:50

the Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating

27:52

Council and the Department of

27:55

Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure

27:57

Security Agency. The

28:00

third election was the most secure in

28:02

American history. There is no evidence that

28:04

any voting system deleted or lost votes,

28:06

changed votes, or was in any way

28:08

compromised. And here's

28:11

Mitch McConnell. The election was not unusually

28:13

close. Bob Barr said he

28:15

lost the election. I'm not disputing those statements. He

28:17

lost the election and he is not conceivable. What

28:19

I'm saying is that... But that's your guy. Well,

28:21

what I'm saying is when you look at his

28:23

statements, and again, I don't have all of the

28:25

quotes, but I've seen and heard them many times.

28:27

You don't need quotes. There's

28:30

no distinction or difference between what he and Hillary

28:32

Clinton essentially... No, it's not Hillary Clinton. And he

28:34

was asked. He was asked last night

28:36

in the election. That's a preposterous statement. He was

28:38

asked last night in the debate, would you accept

28:40

the results of the election? Yes, if it's free

28:43

and fair, which is a way of saying, if

28:45

we win, I accept. Should we

28:47

all want free and fair elections? Of course, and

28:49

this was. That's what I just read it to

28:51

you. This was a free and fair one. So

28:53

he obviously does not admit when he loses a

28:56

free and fair election. So why would we think

28:58

he's going to do it this time? Did you

29:00

hear what he said last week in Detroit in

29:02

that rally with all the MAGA people there? He

29:05

said, I carry California in 2020. He

29:07

lost this state by 5 million votes. Everybody knew

29:09

it. And then the other thing, 5 million votes.

29:12

And then he went

29:14

to Brad Raffensperger in

29:16

Atlanta, and he said,

29:18

I get... Find

29:21

me 12,000 votes. He lost it.

29:23

He knew exactly how many votes he lost in the

29:25

election by Georgia. Give me 5,000 votes. Give me. And

29:28

you know what? Brad Raffensperger, the secretary of

29:30

state, a Republican who voted for

29:32

Trump, said, I had a tape recorded. I caught

29:34

him. And he never came back again. He's

29:36

out stealing votes. And now he's accusing

29:39

the other side of stealing votes. I'm

29:41

telling you, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Bob

29:43

Dole, everybody that's... We've had my lifetime,

29:45

who lost an election for president, bellied

29:47

up and said to the

29:49

American people, on television, I lost.

29:52

And that's why our country is so superior than

29:54

it was. Thank you. All

29:57

right. Let's

30:01

take a break from streaming at each other. A

30:03

program note. No. Okay, this

30:05

is that we have kind of a crazy schedule.

30:08

We will be off next week because it's the

30:10

4th of July. We're usually not on this

30:12

late because we take our summer break, but because

30:14

the Republican Convention is, let me see here, that

30:16

is July 19th. So we want to

30:18

be on for the two weeks after we're off next week. That's

30:22

July 12th and July 19th. Then

30:24

we're off for a month. Then we come back

30:26

for the DNC on August 23rd to the end

30:28

of the year. But we thought because we're on

30:30

near the 4th of July, and we usually aren't,

30:32

we would do something tonight because it was kind

30:34

of a depressing night last night. To

30:38

show people what is still great about America.

30:40

Would you like to say something? Let's

30:43

do that. What

30:46

is still great about America? For

30:49

example, we have tent cities bigger than

30:51

your entire shithole country. We're

31:01

so advanced technologically, we already are

31:03

using robot TV hosts. We're

31:11

so forward thinking. Our last president was a

31:13

man who wears makeup. Other

31:21

countries have museums that bring the past

31:23

alive. We have the entire southern United

31:26

States. Our

31:34

strip clubs are so hot, women hating terrorists

31:36

go there the night before they die. And

31:46

you can get a head job from your congressperson

31:48

in a public theater. America.

31:57

We allow the learning disabled to help run

31:59

the government. A great

32:06

country. If you think your

32:08

beer is gay, you can shoot it. And

32:17

if you see an unoccupied home, you can just move

32:19

in. Our

32:26

fast food restaurants sound like euphemisms for

32:28

sex. This is a great country. In

32:37

America, you can dance like no one is watching. Or

32:39

if you want, like you're jerking off two guys at once.

32:53

So I want to read a couple of quotes. Go

32:56

back to this just for a second. This is

32:58

Steve Bannon. He said, if they steal the election,

33:00

and he's talking about the Democrats, of course, and

33:02

they fully intend to steal it, this republic ends.

33:05

And this is you. You said, Biden and the

33:07

democratic elite have turned our country into a banana

33:09

republic. I think the exact

33:11

same thing about the other side. That's

33:14

exactly what I would say about the republicans.

33:17

If they steal this election and they fully intend

33:19

to steal it, this republic ends. How

33:22

do we get out of this, where we are such

33:24

mirror images of each other that we think exactly the

33:26

same way about the other side? We

33:28

both use that phrase, existential threat.

33:30

How do we get out of that? I

33:34

think it's important to look at what's actually happening.

33:37

That this isn't my opinion versus your opinion

33:40

and everyone else's opinion or some theory about what may

33:42

possibly happen when

33:44

you look at the weaponization of

33:46

the Department of Justice. You can talk

33:49

about all the different cases that Trump is facing,

33:52

but then you can also look

33:54

at how political opposition and

33:57

others who disagree with this administration are also

33:59

being... targeted. You

34:01

look at how we're facing more

34:03

censorship of free speech now than

34:05

ever before in my lifetime, whether

34:07

it's directly or indirectly from this

34:10

administration. You know, obviously, COVID

34:12

was a huge example of this. There are many

34:14

others that have come forward. Yeah,

34:16

there is a lot of that. And you look at how they

34:18

tried to remove Trump from over 32 ballots in

34:21

different states. These are

34:23

things that should not and cannot be

34:25

happening in a true democracy, in a

34:27

democratic republic and things that we should

34:30

take note of as the

34:32

direction that we are headed in and this threat that we

34:34

face. You know, when they, I think

34:36

a lot about this, like you do. And I think

34:38

about what rights are at stake

34:40

right now. I was at the

34:42

Berlin Wall when it was coming down. I met

34:44

this young guy, an army surplus jacket on. He

34:47

looked like an American anti-war candidate and I wore

34:49

a kid. And I said, what's

34:51

freedom mean to you? And

34:53

the kid said, talk to you. That's

34:58

in trouble. Trump has said, I'm going to make

35:00

sure I get even with half this country that's

35:02

probably going to vote against me. He's going

35:04

to go after public officials. He's going after commentators.

35:06

He's going after editorial writers. He's going to go

35:08

after everybody and they're basically at

35:10

stake right now. So it's not going to

35:12

be a free country. He

35:15

said, I'm going to get those people. He said

35:17

about women, there needs to be some

35:19

form of punishment. That's how he started his

35:21

discussion about him. And he went ahead and he

35:23

put those three judges on the Supreme Court and

35:26

he got rid of Roe v. Wade. He did

35:28

that. Your rights are gone. He is out there

35:30

to remove people's rights. That's

35:32

the real danger. And we don't know where it's going

35:34

to end. We do not know. Nobody can sit here

35:36

tonight or this November and say they know where Trump's

35:38

going to stop. Or what

35:41

everybody's going to do. Because

35:45

he's crazy. The difference is the

35:48

erosion of free speech,

35:50

the targeting of political opponents

35:52

has actually occurred under

35:55

the Biden administration. Whereas

35:57

when you go back and look into the Trump

35:59

administration, we didn't. this kind of attack

36:01

on this fund. Because he commits crimes. The

36:03

example is this fundamental right to free speech.

36:05

It's fundamental right to free speech. That's

36:10

always the rub. When

36:12

someone in high office commits crimes, it's like if you

36:14

go after them, yes, you are subject

36:17

to that accusation that you're politicizing the Justice Department. But

36:20

what if you really do commit crimes? I

36:22

mean, everything he is accused of, I mean, he

36:27

said last night, I didn't have sex with the porn star. You

36:29

don't really believe that, do you? Is that the crime you're talking

36:31

about? You,

36:35

but you look at that whole

36:38

case. That whole case that was brought up is

36:40

something that has never, ever been brought up before.

36:43

You had the former governor and attorney general of

36:46

New York and he was saying no. That

36:49

purely would not have happened unless it was Donald Trump. I'm not

36:51

for that one. I wasn't for that

36:53

case. Certainly not in

36:55

New York. But asking the

36:57

guy in Georgia for 11,000 votes on the

36:59

phone, I mean, you have it

37:01

on tape. You have to find

37:03

me 11,000 votes. Remember that Rod Blagojevich guy?

37:06

Didn't he do the same thing? He's

37:09

on tape asking for votes to change

37:11

the election. That's not a

37:13

crime. That's America. All

37:18

of the systems are in

37:20

place to be able to

37:22

ensure that votes that are

37:24

cast are fairly counted. What

37:26

does that have to do

37:28

with this question? The context

37:30

of that recorded statement actually

37:32

does matter. Whether

37:35

you're talking about, hey, are all the votes

37:38

that have been cast actually counted? No,

37:40

he said, I need you to find me. This

37:43

is after the guy. I interviewed

37:45

the guy and said, what do you think he meant by the word

37:47

find? Give me 12,000 votes. That's

37:50

why he tape recorded it. Because he knew

37:52

what the guy's had already done a recount

37:54

of all Georgia's votes. It

37:58

was absolutely solid. The state, the

38:01

legislature, it was absolutely finished and he calls

38:03

out and says, give me the new extra

38:06

votes. I'm telling you, the guy went out

38:08

and he was involved with Arizona, out there

38:10

with that whole thing with Rudy Giuliani and

38:12

what he's been in charge with. He

38:15

tried everything, new electors knew this. The guy was

38:17

trying to win the election after he lost it.

38:19

Okay, so let me give you a break here

38:22

and go to the other side. Because there was

38:24

a primary. There

38:28

were some primaries in the Democratic Party. Jamal

38:30

Bowman, he is from New York, he is

38:32

a member of the squad. He lost. I

38:36

don't know that much about him. I remember the first

38:38

thing I read about him was a quote where he

38:40

said, capitalism is the new slavery. And I said, no

38:42

it is not. That's a ridiculous

38:44

statement and lots of black folks in this

38:46

country do very well by capitalism and they

38:49

would not want to see it end. Very

38:51

few people would want to see capitalism end.

38:53

So right there I thought, oh, this is

38:55

not gonna be my favorite congressperson. He also

38:57

set off the alarm. He set off

38:59

the alarm to stop the vote and then he said, I didn't set

39:01

up the alarm. Yes I did. Okay.

39:05

And Cori Bush, she's also a member of the

39:07

squad. Also far left, she looks

39:09

like she's gonna be out in I think

39:11

it's Missouri. So I

39:14

just gotta say, the Democratic Party does

39:16

seem to have a better ability to,

39:19

at least in their primaries, straighten out their

39:21

voters. Straighten out their party. It looks like

39:23

they're tacking to the center. And you know,

39:25

what you were starting to talk about before,

39:28

I used the phrase last week on the

39:30

show in my editorial about the

39:32

left, I said, they are aggressively

39:34

anti-common sense. Yes. And

39:36

I'll keep saying it and I've been saying

39:39

it for years because that's what they are.

39:41

Aggressively anti-common sense. We

39:43

could go through some of the things you started

39:45

to mention. That to me is Trump's biggest Trump

39:47

card. Is this- I

39:49

agree. I think there are people who are actually

39:51

paying attention. And I think this is

39:54

where we're seeing more people that normally wouldn't

39:56

vote for a Republican or normally wouldn't consider

39:58

voting for Trump. You're seeing. his numbers go

40:00

up amongst different demographics, I think largely because

40:03

people are looking at the whole political system

40:06

and seeing how crazy it's becoming and how

40:08

much the Democrat elites' policies are

40:11

lacking just that basic common sense test.

40:13

You know, I think the people are

40:15

going to decide this election are the

40:17

more moderate Republicans and the more moderate

40:19

Democrats. You never hear anybody talking about

40:21

moderate. I'm one. And

40:23

I got to tell you, I'm a sort

40:25

of an unhyphated Democrat. I'm not any special

40:27

kind of interest group or anything like that.

40:29

I think the party's done a pretty good

40:31

job creating Social Security, Medicare, everything

40:34

that's been positive about our country. They did

40:36

it. And they created the American middle class. And

40:39

I tell you, they

40:41

steer progressively to the center, and they

40:44

are certainly not radicals, and the American

40:46

people are comfortable with them. I think

40:48

Biden has moved to the left, and

40:50

that's been a problem. And he's gotten

40:52

woke and all that. That's all from,

40:54

I think, Al Franken should be back

40:56

in the U.S. Senate. I mean, unfortunately,

40:59

the best senator there was

41:02

recently. I mean, threw him

41:04

out. I'm sorry. It's

41:08

absolutely true. And if you could get these

41:11

senators under sodium pentothal without anybody watching,

41:13

and you actually got to answer the

41:15

question, who's the best senator around here?

41:17

And say, Al Franken. That was

41:19

his decision. Well,

41:24

ultimately, after Schumer got working on them, you

41:26

know, and saying your staff will never work

41:28

here again. Other people's other people just just

41:31

tufted out. He didn't. He

41:33

could have stayed. Remember the guy in Virginia? What

41:36

was his name? The governor there. He was dancing

41:39

like Michael Jackson for a minute. Remember in

41:41

the video and they wanted to

41:43

get him out. He just said, no, you

41:45

know what? People will give it three weeks

41:47

and they'll be talking about Britney Spears. That's

41:50

what Biden is talking about.

41:53

What he should have done. You know, Bill Maher,

41:55

I know what he said on Friday night. I

41:57

don't care what he said. I'm sticking around here.

44:00

single service member has

44:02

been killed under my administration.

44:04

It was a punch in the gut

44:06

to every one of us who served,

44:09

that he dismissed the lives of those

44:11

13 men and women who

44:13

were killed in Kabul, that he dismissed the

44:15

lives of the three who were killed this

44:17

past January in Jordan and their families, the

44:20

people who are still struggling and living with

44:22

that sacrifice today. He had a

44:24

bad night. And he also said, I never, Trump

44:26

had one really smart line. He said,

44:28

you never fire anybody. That's

44:31

a problem. If you don't fire anybody as

44:33

an executive position, you know, Reagan got rid

44:35

of the aircraft, the air traffic controllers, and

44:37

sent a message to the Soviet Union. They

44:39

took him seriously yesterday. You got

44:41

it. Why didn't Jake, Jake, what's

44:43

the name? Why didn't he get bounced? I

44:46

don't understand. Why were the generals

44:48

bounced after that disastrous retreat from

44:50

Afghanistan? Nothing. No question. Especially

44:53

when your catchphrase was you're fired. All right. We've

44:55

got better new rules. Thank you, guys. Okay.

45:03

You're all

45:06

after last night's debate, America now has to

45:08

decide, do you want infirmed old or insane

45:10

old? The

45:14

important thing to remember is that age

45:16

affects different people in different ways. For

45:20

example, the green hornet still looks good, but

45:22

Kada was really let himself go. There

45:32

are now 21 million sets of

45:34

miniature toy food have been recalled

45:36

for being harmful and dangerous. I

45:38

demand an apology. Not

45:43

from the toy company. They're just trying to make

45:45

a buck. From the 21 million Americans who bought

45:48

this crap. All

45:51

you do is whine about the price of groceries, then you

45:53

pay $69 for fake food. Fuck

45:56

you. paradigm

50:00

shift that

50:04

really squeezes the juice out of a

50:06

more goal-oriented approach that can move the

50:08

needle. The

50:13

solution is called game. Game.

50:17

G-A-N-E. Simple

50:24

but revolutionary. First

50:26

step, G, stands for go outside. And

50:31

also grooming and

50:33

goodwill. Not like goodwill to your

50:36

fellow man. I mean the place that takes your old

50:38

shitty clothes. Guys

50:43

these days, guys these days dress

50:46

for a date like they're going in for

50:48

a colonoscopy. Unless

50:50

you're a crocodile hunter, don't wear shorts

50:52

on a date. There's

50:55

no shorts in dating. And get a fucking

50:57

belt. Nothing

51:01

elastic. And

51:07

shirts have collars. Shoes

51:09

look good. And

51:12

they make a sound on hardwood floors that

51:14

shouldn't look like bathtub toys. You

51:23

may think Abercrombie and Fitch is for

51:25

douche bags, but guess who gets laid?

51:27

Douche bags. You

51:34

probably heard the phrase, he cleans up

51:36

nice. Do that. Clean

51:39

up. Touch

51:43

your hair. In your nose. Is

51:48

it possible for a guy who ignores hygiene

51:50

to get laid still? Sure, Tommy Lee did

51:52

it in the 90s. Johnny

51:56

Depp more recently, but remember.

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