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2:01
Wow, huh? Huh?
2:07
Did you see the debate? In case
2:12
you missed it, don't worry, so did one of
2:14
the contestants. I
2:19
mean, wow,
2:21
I mean, Trump told lie after lie after lie.
2:24
He never would have gotten away with that if
2:26
Joe Biden was there. Oh, wow.
2:32
Oh, Joe. Joe. Come
2:35
on, man. Joe. You know,
2:37
Joe, he famously loves trains, but apparently
2:39
not of thought. I
2:45
mean, just
2:50
all night confused and halting and
2:52
trailing off. I've seen beauty pageant
2:55
contestants answer questions better. I
2:58
mean, I
3:03
don't
3:07
want to say he shit the bed. His
3:11
new secret service name is Amber
3:13
Heard. I'm coming on. This guy
3:15
was bad. It
3:22
wasn't just what came out of his mouth. You know,
3:24
I mean, the look on his face the whole night,
3:26
he just looked like somebody just
3:28
thought he'd left the stove on, you know? I
3:35
mean, the last time CNN covered
3:38
some of this
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lost. I got to go
3:43
back to that Malaysian airline plane that went down
3:46
in the
3:48
Pacific. Here's
3:55
the most ironic part. The Republicans were so
3:57
afraid that Joe was going to be
3:59
beating expectations. Remember they, last week they
4:01
were like he's gonna be jacked up. They
4:06
put out all this crap of a jacked up
4:08
he's gonna have a secret earpiece in. Really? Who
4:13
was on the other end of it? Jimmy Carter? At
4:26
one point Trump was winning by so much
4:28
that he started to talk about golf. He
4:31
just said, fuck it, golf. Fuck
4:34
it, you know what? This happened in America
4:36
formerly a real country. And
4:45
if that wasn't enough, Trump looked
4:47
thinner. Some people said he's on his epic. No, that
4:49
is not what it is. He just lies his
4:51
ass off. That's what it is.
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So look, we're
4:59
obviously gonna have a perfect night to be on. We're
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gonna talk about it soon. But
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for now, Democrats have some hard
5:05
conversations they'd have to have. Joe
5:07
Biden, noble guy, did
5:10
a great thing when he got elected president,
5:12
did very well for three years, but now
5:15
there is no toothpaste left in that tube.
5:20
And we either walk around with bad
5:22
breath or green teeth or walk into
5:24
his EVS and sharp-lift a new tube.
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First up, we have Tulsi Gabbard and Chris
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Matthews are here.
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First up, he is an inventor,
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futurist, and New York Times bestselling
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author whose new book is called
5:39
The Singularity is Neera When We
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Merge with AI Ray Kurzweil. Ray,
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great to see you
5:48
again. How are you?
5:52
You look good. You
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look good, Ray. Are you still having 200 pills
5:56
a day? No, I'm down to 70.
5:59
70? I have about about the same. Congratulations
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on your book by the way. That's science
6:03
right? We're putting good things in our body.
6:06
Right? Okay. So I'm
6:08
so anxious to have you on. I want to place
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you in case people don't know who you are. Nobody
6:12
has been more on AI than you, from the last
6:15
century when people were not even thinking of it. I
6:17
mean I never thought of AI. The only time I
6:19
ever thought of AI was the one Spielberg movie I
6:21
didn't like. Only
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for 61 years. 61
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years, yeah. And
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you, yeah, obviously you're Google's main
6:30
AI guy. But, I mean, back
6:32
in 1999, you were
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talking about this going on with AI
6:36
and the singularity. And you said in
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2029, you had a whole book about
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it. You said that's when human, that
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would achieve human level intelligence. Hasn't it
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already? Uh, depends.
6:46
Not really. Okay. I'm
6:49
still saying 2029, other
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people are saying two years, three years, four
6:55
years. When I said
6:57
that in around 2000, everybody
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thought it's going to take 100 years. Right.
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And 30 years was very optimistic. But
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human level intelligence, I thought it had far
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surpassed us because it can do so many
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things we can't. Yes.
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I mean you can ask it anything
7:17
in philosophy, psychology, physics, and it will
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give you a very good
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answer. And if you don't like that,
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you can ask it again. It will give you another
7:26
answer that's also good. Right. But
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there's a few things it doesn't do. It doesn't
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create art the way a
7:34
master artist would do.
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Thank you. Okay,
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so the
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next prediction, and by the way, you have many other predictions.
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Didn't you predict the end of the Soviet Union, like within
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a couple of years? Yeah. Okay.
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So, I mean, there's nobody like you. I
7:54
just want people to understand that. You
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say 2045. This is
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when we... basically become a hybrid
8:01
species when we merge in
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the cloud with the
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machines basically. You're
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sticking with that 2045 because that's 20 years away. Let
8:13
me tell you folks, 20 years goes fast, young
8:15
people. You
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say, oh, you'll be there
8:19
tomorrow. We'll stay
8:22
alive during that period. We're going
8:24
to reach longevity escape velocity where
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we go a year and
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our longevity actually increases by a year, so we're
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not going to actually succumb to
8:33
aging. So
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we hope. Well,
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you can have a 20-year-old who has a longevity
8:40
of many decades and they could die tomorrow, so
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it's not a guarantee. Oh, but can
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I just have the 20-year-old? Okay,
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but
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explain to me what this means merging in the cloud.
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What if I want to opt out of that? My
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mother used to say, don't live with your head in the clouds.
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Now you want me to live with my head. First
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of all, what does that mean, my head
9:09
merge in the cloud? Well, you've got lots
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of connections in your brain. We have a
9:14
certain size brain so that we're more intelligent
9:16
than other animals, but
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we'd actually like to increase that. We'd like to
9:20
become more intelligent. So we'll actually
9:22
go to the cloud. The cloud doubles in capacity
9:25
every year, so that'll
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actually make us more intelligent. So
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it'll be just like we are now, except it'll be
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a lot more intelligent than we were before. See,
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you're so optimistic about this. I'm
9:38
sure you've thought about it a zillion times more than
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I have, but... Well, there's some
9:42
downsides also. Okay, good. I'm glad you
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acknowledge it, because what I read in
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your book, I mean, you say, like
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you used the phrase, will be freed
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from our skulls. Let
9:53
me read this quote. Do you say,
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the most commonly discussed worst case scenario
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is the potential to create... of gray
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goo. Self-replicating machines that
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consume carbon-based matter and turn it
10:05
into more self-replicating machines, such a
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process could lead to a runaway
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chain reaction, potentially converting the entire
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biomass of the earth to such
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machines. Instead of trying to add
10:17
security features to an inherently dangerous
10:19
system, we must build nanobots that
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are naturally fail-safe. Well
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that's a downside, yeah. We're
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trying to avoid that, I think we will, but
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I mean there are downsides to everything. But see
10:38
here's that, I mean we've had atomic weapons really
10:41
since I was a small child. We'd actually get
10:43
under our desk, put our hands behind our head,
10:45
to protect us from a nuclear war.
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I remember. And it worked. Okay,
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but that was so
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far, so far, yes,
10:55
because of something called mutually assured
10:57
destruction. I don't know if we
10:59
have that here. See when you
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say instead of building security features,
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we must only build nanobots that
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are fail-safe. We, I
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think you're forgetting about bad guys, Ray.
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What about bad guys? There's still bad
11:12
guys out here, and before we merge
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with the cloud and become this great
11:16
hybrid species, don't worry about the bad
11:19
guys using this before we even get
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there. Absolutely, and they're out there and
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they're causing problems, but
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as we create these things we're actually putting more effort
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into avoiding what
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bad guys will do to it, then
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we're actually creating these new capabilities. So
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we're keeping up with them, but we
11:42
constantly have to fight bad
11:44
uses of these technologies. And
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what about jobs? When
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everyone's living in the cloud? Well
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we've had that since we've had the
11:55
low-light movement 200 years ago. I
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mean we have the cotton, jenny,
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and other things. things that would
12:02
eliminate jobs and
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people were very worried about that and those
12:07
jobs did go away and we
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say well we're gonna create new jobs and people
12:11
say well what's new jobs and you could say
12:13
well you can be a social media influencer. No
12:20
one would know what you're talking about. Right but
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what jobs do you think I mean you're the great
12:25
seer of the future what what jobs will be created
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by this. It's
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not really us versus AI we're
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gonna merge our two we're gonna
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put AI inside our bodies
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and outside our bodies that we go
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through wireless communications
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to enhance ourselves so
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it's not going to be us versus
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AI we're gonna enhance our capabilities through
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AI and make ourselves much smarter than
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we are now so
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we'll be doing these jobs anything
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that really
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turns you on will will
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be able to do because we'll be
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that much smarter. Well speaking about how
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will this affect sex? I
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mean applause for the question. Yes
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it'll become better. It'll become better?
13:25
Yeah. I'm not
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sure for everyone I mean can
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you describe AI
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sex? I mean
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we just have to think about it. I know you say some things
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that we do now we're just gonna have to think about
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I mean you just you're talking
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about acting you said you know if somebody
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has to actually. Right we'll have virtual reality where
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you can go into something and it'll be just
13:55
like real but
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it'll be done within your mind.
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virtual reality will become that much
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more enhancing. They
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wound our body's atrophy? No,
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but we won't be limited to
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just one body. We won't be
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limited to just one body. Yeah. I
14:16
don't get it. Meaning?
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You can, I mean in virtual reality today,
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you can have a different body than you.
14:25
Like an avatar. Yeah,
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but it can be very realistic. I
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hope. It
14:34
depends on your imagination. Yeah, I mean, I can't wrap
14:36
my head around this. I don't even know if I
14:38
want to live in this brave new world, but I
14:40
get it. We're not going to have a choice. That's
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the thing. And of course, what I do
14:45
hope, I do like living. I
14:48
do want to keep living. Some people don't. There are lots
14:50
of people who say, no, you know what? They say they
14:52
don't want to live. I don't want to live
14:54
past 95. They get to 95, they don't
14:56
want to die the next day. Exactly.
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And you think this will be able to... People
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only want to die if they're in terrible pain.
15:04
Right. Physical,
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emotional, spiritual. Otherwise,
15:09
they want to continue. Regardless of what they said,
15:11
you know, 20 years earlier. Alright. Well,
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I hope I have you back on the
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show in 20 years when we're both still
15:18
with you. Great first while, everybody. Thank you
15:20
very much, Professor. Alright, let's lead our panel.
15:23
Thank you, Ray. Okay.
15:30
Hi. Alright, he's the
15:33
legendary broadcaster and general who wrote this country, my
15:35
life in politics and history. Chris
15:38
Matthews is over here. And
15:40
she was Hawaii's four-term congressman who
15:42
now serves as the lieutenant colonel
15:44
in the U.S. Army Reserve. And
15:48
is the author of For Love of Country. Leave the
15:50
Democrat Party behind. Tulsi
15:52
Gabbard, great to have you back. Um,
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I gotta tell you... We
16:01
always have to book the panel a little bit in
16:03
advance because people have to fly in and so forth.
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I can't think of a better panel for tonight. Chris,
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first of all, missed you so
16:10
much on TV for just days
16:12
like this. And
16:15
you, I'm
16:18
dying to know your feeling about last night
16:20
because you ran for president as a Democrat
16:22
last time. You feel you got smeared, which
16:24
you have a case for. And
16:27
so I'm just dying to know your feelings, like
16:29
your real feelings about this. But let's just start
16:31
with this. Okay. We have two
16:33
Biden voters here, I think. I mean, I have
16:35
said before, I will vote for his head in
16:37
a jar of blue liquid. And
16:42
after last night, time to get the jar. I
16:52
know you're not a Biden voter, but just pretend that you
16:54
are for a minute, just for the sake of the party.
16:57
What should they do? Replace Biden
16:59
or not? Yes or no? The
17:03
problem is it's his decision.
17:06
He's got all the delegates that are
17:08
confirmed. There's nothing left
17:11
head between here and the convention. What
17:13
should you advocate the Democratic Party to
17:15
do? I advocate for them. And I
17:17
said it nine months ago with my
17:20
editorial called Ruth Bader Biden. Yeah, I
17:22
know. I should step down. That's
17:25
my position. That's some people's
17:27
position today. I think I just heard before
17:29
I went on that the New York Times
17:32
editorial board is asking him to step down.
17:34
And then there's other people. I heard all
17:36
the surrogates last night. Obama, Gavin Newsom. No,
17:38
stick with the guy. What
17:41
should they do? I say quit. I said it
17:43
a long time ago. And now I think it's
17:45
absolutely apparent that is the only way. The facts
17:47
only have to proud. What
17:53
happens? So he and
17:56
Dr. Biden decide they're going
17:58
to quit. out, give
18:00
it to somebody else. Who gets it? OK,
18:03
let's go through that scenario. Well, first of all,
18:05
what's your take on this? I think it doesn't
18:07
make a difference, quite frankly. If
18:09
you look at Joe Biden's policies and
18:12
you look at the prospect of any one
18:14
of the number of people who could replace
18:16
him should he decide to walk away, and
18:18
I agree with Chris, it is his decision,
18:21
ultimately all of these different policies
18:23
that have been destructive to our
18:25
country will continue. So all
18:28
this attention that's focused around, OK, well, should
18:30
he stay, should he go, to me, frankly,
18:32
deflects away from the substantive policy-centered conversation we
18:34
should be having as a country, as people
18:36
look at this choice they have to make.
18:38
Well, we should, but let's not pretend that
18:41
this country is falling apart or that Joe
18:43
Biden caused it to fall apart. He actually
18:45
didn't do a terrible job at all. And
18:47
a lot of the things he did have
18:49
helped this country. We came through the pandemic
18:51
better than any other country in the world.
18:53
We're not in any sort of depression or
18:55
even recession. The stock market is through the
18:57
roof. People aren't, like, dying in the streets.
18:59
Are you kidding? Yes, we have problems. Like,
19:01
every country has problems. But a different candidate
19:04
would make a huge difference, I think. Here's
19:06
from last night, the flash poll
19:08
afterward. Trump, they said, won 67 to 33. 33.
19:11
That number rings in my mind, because
19:13
you know what that number
19:17
is? That's the number you always see, very
19:19
close, 33, 34, 32, of the people who are
19:23
just always with their party. I mean, that
19:25
is Mrs. Goebbels in the bunker number. I
19:33
mean, you see- There's a woman that kills all her kids. Rather
19:37
than live in a world without
19:39
national socialism. Exactly. You see it
19:41
on the right. They used to
19:43
call them bertchers, birthers, tea party,
19:45
whatever, magination, whatever. They never move.
19:47
And now I feel like that's
19:50
a third of the Democrats who are like, they're going
19:52
to stick with this guy and they are going to
19:54
regret it. He is going to lose. I said it
19:56
nine months ago. I'm going to say it again tonight.
19:59
And now- It seems like it's so
20:01
apparent. Why? In
20:03
the real world, outside of the Biden world, it's
20:06
clear to me that another candidate
20:08
like Newsom, the governor of
20:10
California, could have
20:13
the dynamic to move from
20:15
June, right now, to
20:17
November and build up support to
20:19
match Trump's and maybe overtake him.
20:22
He could change the whole situation.
20:24
Absolutely. He could. The
20:27
problem is, and this is the Democratic
20:29
Party and the way it is, it's
20:32
a party of center left and
20:34
left. If he does that, Kamala
20:37
Harris people go, wait a minute, I'm
20:39
next. And he'll say, you're
20:41
right, you are next. Because that's what he's
20:43
saying right now. And that's the problem. But
20:46
here's the great thing about Newsom as the
20:48
candidate. She can't be his vice president. No,
20:51
she's next for president. You can't be, oh,
20:53
well. That's the problem. And
20:56
not the promise, the reality of this team. I'm not
20:58
sure that's even that big a problem for the Democrats.
21:00
People at the end of the day want to win.
21:03
Here's what's gonna, now I don't wanna
21:05
show a lot of the tape from last night because it's too
21:07
hard to look at. But. But
21:09
you show this one thing,
21:13
we picked out one thing. For
21:16
people who don't watch, and they watch this show to catch
21:18
up on the news, this is what
21:20
the Republicans are gonna show from now until
21:22
election day. Making sure that
21:25
we're able to make every single solitary person
21:29
eligible for what I've been able to do
21:31
with the COVID, excuse
21:33
me, with dealing with
21:36
everything we have to do with. See that head?
21:39
Look, if
21:43
we finally beat Medicare. Thank
21:45
you, President Biden. President Trump? He
21:48
was right, he did beat Medicare. He beat it to
21:50
death. You
21:52
see the head, the way he turned that head? He wanted
21:54
to, he knew the two shot would be
21:56
up there. He wanted to have his head turning like, let's
21:58
watch the guy show how crazy. he is. He's
22:01
looking for it. Look, this is this
22:03
election. You're blaming men on Trump? No,
22:05
I'm watching his theatrical
22:07
ability. He is playing this. Okay, but he
22:10
didn't have to do anything. I mean, he
22:12
came out, it reminded me of when Mike
22:14
Tyson used to knock guys out in 90
22:16
seconds. Like that was like
22:18
two minutes into the debate and I went, oh,
22:20
this election is over. I mean, that was like
22:23
a haymaker, right? Look, I'm watching the guy, he
22:25
is so fast on the trigger, I watched him,
22:27
he comes up with, well, he pulled out of
22:29
Afghanistan and a disastrous way. That's true. He didn't
22:32
fire anybody. He didn't fire Jake Tapper or any
22:34
of the generals. That's all true. Then he'll throw
22:36
in, oh, by the way, illegal people can get
22:38
Medicare and social security. Now they can't. He
22:41
just throws in the lies. He mixes up the
22:43
lies with some truth. Then Obama, I'm sorry, Biden
22:45
is not smart enough to keep up with him.
22:47
He just can't keep up with him. Well, that's,
22:49
isn't that the whole point? Yeah. I think you
22:51
need a guy to keep up with him. I
22:56
feel like
23:00
the whole rationale for
23:03
Biden running has always been, I'm the only
23:05
guy who can beat him. Now
23:07
I think it's inverted. I think he's the only
23:09
guy who could lose to him. I think you're
23:11
right. Or the guy who's, sure, or you agree.
23:13
Shouldn't they replace him? I'm talking
23:15
about what has to happen, but probably won't. When
23:18
you want to happen, what's going to happen? I
23:20
don't know. You know, I keep hearing all day
23:22
from these Democrats defending this. Like we can't abandon
23:25
Joe Biden. What about me? I
23:27
feel abandoned. I feel abandoned. I
23:29
have nobody to vote for. I just
23:32
want to say one
23:34
thing and I'll get
23:37
on the way. Look, to me, this election
23:39
is about fundamentals. It's about, I know you
23:41
disagree. This is about do we believe in
23:43
democracy? And it's not just some ethereal word.
23:45
Do you believe in the person who gets
23:47
the most votes in the electoral college should
23:49
be president? We've had guys like Nixon who
23:51
threw in the towel after Chicago and what
23:53
happened in Texas with Johnson and Hillary Clinton
23:56
had to throw it in after James Comey
23:58
makes his phone call days
24:00
out or the laptop stuff. This is
24:02
politics always has issues and in the
24:04
future it will always have close elections.
24:07
You can't say it's too close to
24:09
call. Trump did not
24:11
admit he lost in 2020. That's
24:13
my main issue. And all around the world.
24:15
I was in a peace corps out there.
24:18
I always bragged to myself and say, no,
24:20
we got these countries like Zimbabwe and they're
24:22
just starting off a democracy. But there's always
24:24
some clown who says it was a fixed
24:26
election or it was rigged. That's a joke.
24:28
In our country there's always somebody who on
24:30
election night, whether it was Adlai Stevenson or
24:32
somebody would come forward and say
24:35
John McCain, you know, or
24:37
Hillary Clinton the next morning and she sat
24:39
at the hotel Pennsylvania and said, I lost.
24:42
That's what Americans should do. You have to say,
24:45
I lost. Because that's what makes the system
24:47
work. I couldn't agree more. So
24:50
that's a good question for you. Well,
24:53
I think that,
24:55
I disagree with you. I think that
24:57
there are very serious issues that a
24:59
lot of these swing voters who are
25:01
still undecided are considering as they look
25:03
at the Biden administration's policies and the
25:05
policies that will continue, whether it's Joe
25:07
Biden or someone else replaces him, whether
25:09
it's issues like border security or the
25:11
insanity around the destruction of Title IX
25:13
and the rejection of, you know, a
25:16
boy is a boy and a girl
25:18
is a girl. They're looking at safety
25:20
in their communities, education system,
25:22
the economy. There are so many different issues
25:24
that people are considering. But I
25:26
want to point to, I think the
25:28
most important one that came through in
25:30
the debate last night was when Joe
25:32
Biden said, quote, the only existential threat
25:34
to humanity is climate change. The
25:38
fact that he said this, the only
25:40
existential threat to humanity is climate
25:42
change completely dismisses the fact that this is a
25:44
guy who has the nuclear
25:46
codes and yet is
25:49
not present enough and is actually insane.
25:51
And so far out of touch with
25:53
reality that he doesn't recognize that the
25:55
true existential threat to humanity, to our
25:57
country, to the world is the fact
26:00
that we are closer to nuclear holocaust
26:02
now than we ever have been before
26:04
in history. Well, sure. I mean, that's
26:06
a threat and climate is a threat and AI
26:08
is a threat. There's lots of- And
26:10
Trump is a threat. Well, this is the point. Let
26:14
me just finish this
26:16
point. If you are equating
26:20
a nuclear holocaust where we will
26:22
see children and mothers and fathers,
26:24
their skin melting off, the nuclear
26:26
blast- We don't have to describe
26:29
it. ... with AI and with
26:31
Trump. No, it's a serious issue
26:33
because this is what we're facing right now. But
26:36
I want to get back to the question he asked because you haven't answered it and I
26:38
want you to do. I mean, you're a patriot.
26:40
You fought for this country and we love you for
26:42
that. Is it the patriotic thing to
26:44
back someone who will not concede elections? And I'm
26:46
not talking about January 6th. They talked about it
26:48
a lot last night. To me, January 6th is
26:50
always going to be a murky thing. It
26:53
was a horrible, awful day in this
26:56
country's history, but Trump's
26:58
role in it is a little murky. Obviously,
27:01
he's Trump. He did the worst he possibly
27:03
could. But what he never did- Stop
27:05
the steal? What's incontrovertible is
27:07
that from the moment the
27:09
election happened, he never conceded.
27:12
He still has not conceded
27:14
the last election. You think
27:16
it's patriotic to back someone who treats America
27:18
that way? I
27:20
think what you've heard from Trump is the same thing
27:22
you've heard from Hillary Clinton, the same thing you've heard
27:25
from a lot of other people who have called him
27:27
an illegitimate president. Has not- He said
27:29
she never- That's a- She
27:31
did not- No, no, that's over
27:33
there. That's over there, Tulsi. We're talking
27:35
about he has not conceded the
27:37
last election. Can I quote to you,
27:40
I think I have it somewhere, the
27:42
quote from the- Oh, fuck.
27:44
I don't know. Here
27:46
it is. This is the
27:48
election's joint statement from
27:50
the Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating
27:52
Council and the Department of
27:55
Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure
27:57
Security Agency. The
28:00
third election was the most secure in
28:02
American history. There is no evidence that
28:04
any voting system deleted or lost votes,
28:06
changed votes, or was in any way
28:08
compromised. And here's
28:11
Mitch McConnell. The election was not unusually
28:13
close. Bob Barr said he
28:15
lost the election. I'm not disputing those statements. He
28:17
lost the election and he is not conceivable. What
28:19
I'm saying is that... But that's your guy. Well,
28:21
what I'm saying is when you look at his
28:23
statements, and again, I don't have all of the
28:25
quotes, but I've seen and heard them many times.
28:27
You don't need quotes. There's
28:30
no distinction or difference between what he and Hillary
28:32
Clinton essentially... No, it's not Hillary Clinton. And he
28:34
was asked. He was asked last night
28:36
in the election. That's a preposterous statement. He was
28:38
asked last night in the debate, would you accept
28:40
the results of the election? Yes, if it's free
28:43
and fair, which is a way of saying, if
28:45
we win, I accept. Should we
28:47
all want free and fair elections? Of course, and
28:49
this was. That's what I just read it to
28:51
you. This was a free and fair one. So
28:53
he obviously does not admit when he loses a
28:56
free and fair election. So why would we think
28:58
he's going to do it this time? Did you
29:00
hear what he said last week in Detroit in
29:02
that rally with all the MAGA people there? He
29:05
said, I carry California in 2020. He
29:07
lost this state by 5 million votes. Everybody knew
29:09
it. And then the other thing, 5 million votes.
29:12
And then he went
29:14
to Brad Raffensperger in
29:16
Atlanta, and he said,
29:18
I get... Find
29:21
me 12,000 votes. He lost it.
29:23
He knew exactly how many votes he lost in the
29:25
election by Georgia. Give me 5,000 votes. Give me. And
29:28
you know what? Brad Raffensperger, the secretary of
29:30
state, a Republican who voted for
29:32
Trump, said, I had a tape recorded. I caught
29:34
him. And he never came back again. He's
29:36
out stealing votes. And now he's accusing
29:39
the other side of stealing votes. I'm
29:41
telling you, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Bob
29:43
Dole, everybody that's... We've had my lifetime,
29:45
who lost an election for president, bellied
29:47
up and said to the
29:49
American people, on television, I lost.
29:52
And that's why our country is so superior than
29:54
it was. Thank you. All
29:57
right. Let's
30:01
take a break from streaming at each other. A
30:03
program note. No. Okay, this
30:05
is that we have kind of a crazy schedule.
30:08
We will be off next week because it's the
30:10
4th of July. We're usually not on this
30:12
late because we take our summer break, but because
30:14
the Republican Convention is, let me see here, that
30:16
is July 19th. So we want to
30:18
be on for the two weeks after we're off next week. That's
30:22
July 12th and July 19th. Then
30:24
we're off for a month. Then we come back
30:26
for the DNC on August 23rd to the end
30:28
of the year. But we thought because we're on
30:30
near the 4th of July, and we usually aren't,
30:32
we would do something tonight because it was kind
30:34
of a depressing night last night. To
30:38
show people what is still great about America.
30:40
Would you like to say something? Let's
30:43
do that. What
30:46
is still great about America? For
30:49
example, we have tent cities bigger than
30:51
your entire shithole country. We're
31:01
so advanced technologically, we already are
31:03
using robot TV hosts. We're
31:11
so forward thinking. Our last president was a
31:13
man who wears makeup. Other
31:21
countries have museums that bring the past
31:23
alive. We have the entire southern United
31:26
States. Our
31:34
strip clubs are so hot, women hating terrorists
31:36
go there the night before they die. And
31:46
you can get a head job from your congressperson
31:48
in a public theater. America.
31:57
We allow the learning disabled to help run
31:59
the government. A great
32:06
country. If you think your
32:08
beer is gay, you can shoot it. And
32:17
if you see an unoccupied home, you can just move
32:19
in. Our
32:26
fast food restaurants sound like euphemisms for
32:28
sex. This is a great country. In
32:37
America, you can dance like no one is watching. Or
32:39
if you want, like you're jerking off two guys at once.
32:53
So I want to read a couple of quotes. Go
32:56
back to this just for a second. This is
32:58
Steve Bannon. He said, if they steal the election,
33:00
and he's talking about the Democrats, of course, and
33:02
they fully intend to steal it, this republic ends.
33:05
And this is you. You said, Biden and the
33:07
democratic elite have turned our country into a banana
33:09
republic. I think the exact
33:11
same thing about the other side. That's
33:14
exactly what I would say about the republicans.
33:17
If they steal this election and they fully intend
33:19
to steal it, this republic ends. How
33:22
do we get out of this, where we are such
33:24
mirror images of each other that we think exactly the
33:26
same way about the other side? We
33:28
both use that phrase, existential threat.
33:30
How do we get out of that? I
33:34
think it's important to look at what's actually happening.
33:37
That this isn't my opinion versus your opinion
33:40
and everyone else's opinion or some theory about what may
33:42
possibly happen when
33:44
you look at the weaponization of
33:46
the Department of Justice. You can talk
33:49
about all the different cases that Trump is facing,
33:52
but then you can also look
33:54
at how political opposition and
33:57
others who disagree with this administration are also
33:59
being... targeted. You
34:01
look at how we're facing more
34:03
censorship of free speech now than
34:05
ever before in my lifetime, whether
34:07
it's directly or indirectly from this
34:10
administration. You know, obviously, COVID
34:12
was a huge example of this. There are many
34:14
others that have come forward. Yeah,
34:16
there is a lot of that. And you look at how they
34:18
tried to remove Trump from over 32 ballots in
34:21
different states. These are
34:23
things that should not and cannot be
34:25
happening in a true democracy, in a
34:27
democratic republic and things that we should
34:30
take note of as the
34:32
direction that we are headed in and this threat that we
34:34
face. You know, when they, I think
34:36
a lot about this, like you do. And I think
34:38
about what rights are at stake
34:40
right now. I was at the
34:42
Berlin Wall when it was coming down. I met
34:44
this young guy, an army surplus jacket on. He
34:47
looked like an American anti-war candidate and I wore
34:49
a kid. And I said, what's
34:51
freedom mean to you? And
34:53
the kid said, talk to you. That's
34:58
in trouble. Trump has said, I'm going to make
35:00
sure I get even with half this country that's
35:02
probably going to vote against me. He's going
35:04
to go after public officials. He's going after commentators.
35:06
He's going after editorial writers. He's going to go
35:08
after everybody and they're basically at
35:10
stake right now. So it's not going to
35:12
be a free country. He
35:15
said, I'm going to get those people. He said
35:17
about women, there needs to be some
35:19
form of punishment. That's how he started his
35:21
discussion about him. And he went ahead and he
35:23
put those three judges on the Supreme Court and
35:26
he got rid of Roe v. Wade. He did
35:28
that. Your rights are gone. He is out there
35:30
to remove people's rights. That's
35:32
the real danger. And we don't know where it's going
35:34
to end. We do not know. Nobody can sit here
35:36
tonight or this November and say they know where Trump's
35:38
going to stop. Or what
35:41
everybody's going to do. Because
35:45
he's crazy. The difference is the
35:48
erosion of free speech,
35:50
the targeting of political opponents
35:52
has actually occurred under
35:55
the Biden administration. Whereas
35:57
when you go back and look into the Trump
35:59
administration, we didn't. this kind of attack
36:01
on this fund. Because he commits crimes. The
36:03
example is this fundamental right to free speech.
36:05
It's fundamental right to free speech. That's
36:10
always the rub. When
36:12
someone in high office commits crimes, it's like if you
36:14
go after them, yes, you are subject
36:17
to that accusation that you're politicizing the Justice Department. But
36:20
what if you really do commit crimes? I
36:22
mean, everything he is accused of, I mean, he
36:27
said last night, I didn't have sex with the porn star. You
36:29
don't really believe that, do you? Is that the crime you're talking
36:31
about? You,
36:35
but you look at that whole
36:38
case. That whole case that was brought up is
36:40
something that has never, ever been brought up before.
36:43
You had the former governor and attorney general of
36:46
New York and he was saying no. That
36:49
purely would not have happened unless it was Donald Trump. I'm not
36:51
for that one. I wasn't for that
36:53
case. Certainly not in
36:55
New York. But asking the
36:57
guy in Georgia for 11,000 votes on the
36:59
phone, I mean, you have it
37:01
on tape. You have to find
37:03
me 11,000 votes. Remember that Rod Blagojevich guy?
37:06
Didn't he do the same thing? He's
37:09
on tape asking for votes to change
37:11
the election. That's not a
37:13
crime. That's America. All
37:18
of the systems are in
37:20
place to be able to
37:22
ensure that votes that are
37:24
cast are fairly counted. What
37:26
does that have to do
37:28
with this question? The context
37:30
of that recorded statement actually
37:32
does matter. Whether
37:35
you're talking about, hey, are all the votes
37:38
that have been cast actually counted? No,
37:40
he said, I need you to find me. This
37:43
is after the guy. I interviewed
37:45
the guy and said, what do you think he meant by the word
37:47
find? Give me 12,000 votes. That's
37:50
why he tape recorded it. Because he knew
37:52
what the guy's had already done a recount
37:54
of all Georgia's votes. It
37:58
was absolutely solid. The state, the
38:01
legislature, it was absolutely finished and he calls
38:03
out and says, give me the new extra
38:06
votes. I'm telling you, the guy went out
38:08
and he was involved with Arizona, out there
38:10
with that whole thing with Rudy Giuliani and
38:12
what he's been in charge with. He
38:15
tried everything, new electors knew this. The guy was
38:17
trying to win the election after he lost it.
38:19
Okay, so let me give you a break here
38:22
and go to the other side. Because there was
38:24
a primary. There
38:28
were some primaries in the Democratic Party. Jamal
38:30
Bowman, he is from New York, he is
38:32
a member of the squad. He lost. I
38:36
don't know that much about him. I remember the first
38:38
thing I read about him was a quote where he
38:40
said, capitalism is the new slavery. And I said, no
38:42
it is not. That's a ridiculous
38:44
statement and lots of black folks in this
38:46
country do very well by capitalism and they
38:49
would not want to see it end. Very
38:51
few people would want to see capitalism end.
38:53
So right there I thought, oh, this is
38:55
not gonna be my favorite congressperson. He also
38:57
set off the alarm. He set off
38:59
the alarm to stop the vote and then he said, I didn't set
39:01
up the alarm. Yes I did. Okay.
39:05
And Cori Bush, she's also a member of the
39:07
squad. Also far left, she looks
39:09
like she's gonna be out in I think
39:11
it's Missouri. So I
39:14
just gotta say, the Democratic Party does
39:16
seem to have a better ability to,
39:19
at least in their primaries, straighten out their
39:21
voters. Straighten out their party. It looks like
39:23
they're tacking to the center. And you know,
39:25
what you were starting to talk about before,
39:28
I used the phrase last week on the
39:30
show in my editorial about the
39:32
left, I said, they are aggressively
39:34
anti-common sense. Yes. And
39:36
I'll keep saying it and I've been saying
39:39
it for years because that's what they are.
39:41
Aggressively anti-common sense. We
39:43
could go through some of the things you started
39:45
to mention. That to me is Trump's biggest Trump
39:47
card. Is this- I
39:49
agree. I think there are people who are actually
39:51
paying attention. And I think this is
39:54
where we're seeing more people that normally wouldn't
39:56
vote for a Republican or normally wouldn't consider
39:58
voting for Trump. You're seeing. his numbers go
40:00
up amongst different demographics, I think largely because
40:03
people are looking at the whole political system
40:06
and seeing how crazy it's becoming and how
40:08
much the Democrat elites' policies are
40:11
lacking just that basic common sense test.
40:13
You know, I think the people are
40:15
going to decide this election are the
40:17
more moderate Republicans and the more moderate
40:19
Democrats. You never hear anybody talking about
40:21
moderate. I'm one. And
40:23
I got to tell you, I'm a sort
40:25
of an unhyphated Democrat. I'm not any special
40:27
kind of interest group or anything like that.
40:29
I think the party's done a pretty good
40:31
job creating Social Security, Medicare, everything
40:34
that's been positive about our country. They did
40:36
it. And they created the American middle class. And
40:39
I tell you, they
40:41
steer progressively to the center, and they
40:44
are certainly not radicals, and the American
40:46
people are comfortable with them. I think
40:48
Biden has moved to the left, and
40:50
that's been a problem. And he's gotten
40:52
woke and all that. That's all from,
40:54
I think, Al Franken should be back
40:56
in the U.S. Senate. I mean, unfortunately,
40:59
the best senator there was
41:02
recently. I mean, threw him
41:04
out. I'm sorry. It's
41:08
absolutely true. And if you could get these
41:11
senators under sodium pentothal without anybody watching,
41:13
and you actually got to answer the
41:15
question, who's the best senator around here?
41:17
And say, Al Franken. That was
41:19
his decision. Well,
41:24
ultimately, after Schumer got working on them, you
41:26
know, and saying your staff will never work
41:28
here again. Other people's other people just just
41:31
tufted out. He didn't. He
41:33
could have stayed. Remember the guy in Virginia? What
41:36
was his name? The governor there. He was dancing
41:39
like Michael Jackson for a minute. Remember in
41:41
the video and they wanted to
41:43
get him out. He just said, no, you
41:45
know what? People will give it three weeks
41:47
and they'll be talking about Britney Spears. That's
41:50
what Biden is talking about.
41:53
What he should have done. You know, Bill Maher,
41:55
I know what he said on Friday night. I
41:57
don't care what he said. I'm sticking around here.
44:00
single service member has
44:02
been killed under my administration.
44:04
It was a punch in the gut
44:06
to every one of us who served,
44:09
that he dismissed the lives of those
44:11
13 men and women who
44:13
were killed in Kabul, that he dismissed the
44:15
lives of the three who were killed this
44:17
past January in Jordan and their families, the
44:20
people who are still struggling and living with
44:22
that sacrifice today. He had a
44:24
bad night. And he also said, I never, Trump
44:26
had one really smart line. He said,
44:28
you never fire anybody. That's
44:31
a problem. If you don't fire anybody as
44:33
an executive position, you know, Reagan got rid
44:35
of the aircraft, the air traffic controllers, and
44:37
sent a message to the Soviet Union. They
44:39
took him seriously yesterday. You got
44:41
it. Why didn't Jake, Jake, what's
44:43
the name? Why didn't he get bounced? I
44:46
don't understand. Why were the generals
44:48
bounced after that disastrous retreat from
44:50
Afghanistan? Nothing. No question. Especially
44:53
when your catchphrase was you're fired. All right. We've
44:55
got better new rules. Thank you, guys. Okay.
45:03
You're all
45:06
after last night's debate, America now has to
45:08
decide, do you want infirmed old or insane
45:10
old? The
45:14
important thing to remember is that age
45:16
affects different people in different ways. For
45:20
example, the green hornet still looks good, but
45:22
Kada was really let himself go. There
45:32
are now 21 million sets of
45:34
miniature toy food have been recalled
45:36
for being harmful and dangerous. I
45:38
demand an apology. Not
45:43
from the toy company. They're just trying to make
45:45
a buck. From the 21 million Americans who bought
45:48
this crap. All
45:51
you do is whine about the price of groceries, then you
45:53
pay $69 for fake food. Fuck
45:56
you. paradigm
50:00
shift that
50:04
really squeezes the juice out of a
50:06
more goal-oriented approach that can move the
50:08
needle. The
50:13
solution is called game. Game.
50:17
G-A-N-E. Simple
50:24
but revolutionary. First
50:26
step, G, stands for go outside. And
50:31
also grooming and
50:33
goodwill. Not like goodwill to your
50:36
fellow man. I mean the place that takes your old
50:38
shitty clothes. Guys
50:43
these days, guys these days dress
50:46
for a date like they're going in for
50:48
a colonoscopy. Unless
50:50
you're a crocodile hunter, don't wear shorts
50:52
on a date. There's
50:55
no shorts in dating. And get a fucking
50:57
belt. Nothing
51:01
elastic. And
51:07
shirts have collars. Shoes
51:09
look good. And
51:12
they make a sound on hardwood floors that
51:14
shouldn't look like bathtub toys. You
51:23
may think Abercrombie and Fitch is for
51:25
douche bags, but guess who gets laid?
51:27
Douche bags. You
51:34
probably heard the phrase, he cleans up
51:36
nice. Do that. Clean
51:39
up. Touch
51:43
your hair. In your nose. Is
51:48
it possible for a guy who ignores hygiene
51:50
to get laid still? Sure, Tommy Lee did
51:52
it in the 90s. Johnny
51:56
Depp more recently, but remember.
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