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The delicious ice cold taste of Dr. Pepper
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has a lasting effect on people. Lindsay from
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Sacramento said... Pro tip, 40 degrees is the
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perfect temperature for an ice cold Dr. Pepper. Why
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is 40 degrees the perfect temperature for Dr.
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Pepper? We brought in Sue from Duluth, Minnesota to
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tell us. Oh yeah, I know a thing or two
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about cold. Oh, that right there is the
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perfect kind of ice cold for Dr. Pepper. Mmm,
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I'd share that with my friend Nancy. She likes
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Dr. Pepper too, you know. My coldest... Alright, that'll
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be all, Sue. Having a perfect temperature for
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your Dr. Pepper? It's a Pepper thing. Inspired
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by Real Fan posts. This
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is Beyond a Reasonable Doubt with
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your hosts Mark Garagas and
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Gary Smith. Oh,
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yeah, I'm GPS. How are you today?
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Happy Easter. I'm well, Mark. Happy Easter
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to you. Thank you.
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Did you take the little one, egg
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hunting, or did you fall down on your
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obligation? No, he got his basket this morning.
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He's currently at church, and then we will
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be doing an egg hunt at the house
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later this afternoon. Very good.
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You know, I will not say who,
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but I have given much grief to
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somebody for... I
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don't know. I think it's... I
1:12
could construct a whole theory
1:14
about the fact that
1:16
if you take your kids trick or
1:18
treating, but not an Easter egg hunt,
1:20
that there's a satanic
1:23
influence that I
1:25
could really go deep on that. Yeah, that's certainly
1:27
an easy argument to make. But
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no, he's been excited for the Easter Bunny
1:31
for several weeks now, and we're having the
1:34
whole family over at our house today this
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afternoon for a probably rain-filled egg hunt. Wait,
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how old is the little one now? He
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is closer to five than four. Okay.
1:45
So does the big
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Easter Bunny scare him or not?
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No, not anymore. No, he was visited at his
1:52
school this week by an Easter Bunny, and he
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was just rife with excitement to tell me about
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it when I got home. It
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really is. Because of all of the
2:01
holidays that have entered the secular sphere,
2:05
it really is a very special
2:07
day. So happy Easter to
2:09
everyone who's watching, to my Greek friends, I think
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you don't celebrate until May for some
2:15
reason this year. I would
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say I prefer that because personally as
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a Catholic who's used to Easter, I
2:21
don't like this March business. Yeah,
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it's relatively rare to have a March Easter.
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Yeah, absolutely. And I prefer it to go
2:29
back to normal, so I'm looking forward to
2:31
next year. Okay, you got
2:33
it. Okay, as
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much as you and I would love
2:37
to do a postmortem on Funny Willis,
2:39
for those who are watching and have
2:41
been watching for the last two months,
2:44
that case is now up on appeal. The
2:46
judge certified it to go up on
2:48
appeal. What everybody
2:51
at least chattering around in my world is
2:53
talking about this week is none other than?
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He did. Yeah, yeah. Earthwhile
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client, quite
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a show of force. Do you have
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any video of the... There
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were two search words. I told Gary, for
3:10
all of you in the comments who talk
3:12
about the serial killer dead eyes, that
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Gary has given a very cogent explanation as
3:17
to why that is, where I don't warn
3:19
him as to what I've been asked. And
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he's trying to look at the camera while
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searching at the same time, which is why
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he's got that far away hotel, Bristol
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Hotel look. But
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the search words, which were executed by
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Department of Homeland Security, were done both
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at the Holmby Hills House, which is
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quite a house, and the Star House.
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On Combs, a rapper and music... There's
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another example of how it works when we don't
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get to pre-plan. Sorry, I was trying to pull
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some video there. We're doing
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it extemporaneously. So maybe you
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could play it, then we'll
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just circle back. Florida
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and LA were the two places. Yeah, absolutely.
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Let's see here. Let me see if I
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can pull this up. Sorry,
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it's uh, yeah, there there was uh, the
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one in um The
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one in la was followed closely by
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some of the the press. I saw
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steve gregory from kfi Which is on
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our local radio stations was following the
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investigators on combs the rap and
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music Wow Uh
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as they as they raided the house,
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but here's one of the videos that
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we have that shows some of the
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raid from I believe a uh a
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Helicopter that was hovering close above
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on combs the rapper and music
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executive perhaps being linked to
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a sex trafficking Investigation,
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we got some shots of a few people coming
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out of the home Those people have
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been detained now. We're trying to still connect
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the dots We do have some sources on scenes
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here that we're getting this information from We're
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actually the first ones here with about
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30 different law
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enforcement vehicles at least there's three bear
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cats on scene here This is just on
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salutist andra. I would say Less
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than 10 minutes ago. We got here even before
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the crime scene tape came up So,
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uh, we're just down the hill if you look
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up the street where tony is right now to the
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right You'll see one of those bear cats and law
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enforcement Other side of
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this bushes basically is that home that
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is registered to bad boy films? Which
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is part of bad boy entertainment and
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the home in particular is registered
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not only bad boy films But to one
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of key ditties daughters, they are heavily armed
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and they've been very tactical Would
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probably be the best word to use as
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they made entry into this home This
5:42
afternoon we actually watched them as they made
5:44
through their made their way through one of
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these Side gates and as soon as they
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got inside the home One of the things
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their first things they did was made their
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way into this garage that you see is
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open right there Now they did take a
5:56
couple people into custody. We witnessed that now.
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Are they under arrest? Are they just being
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asked about what they know? Very
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interesting. For those of you who aren't
6:07
watching the tape, you had a
6:10
swarm of Homeland
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Security agents who were dressed like
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they were invading Fallujah or
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the withdrawal from Afghanistan, literally
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down to the look on
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them and then walking people
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out, hands on the head,
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backwards, guns
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drawn. Yeah, and I believe a
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couple of those people who you see there, maybe
6:36
not necessarily exactly in the video, but a couple
6:38
of them were his two sons, his teenage sons
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who I believe are in their late teens. Yeah,
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this was a show of force, the
6:46
likes of which I can't remember. I mean, I don't
6:48
know if you've got the Roger
6:50
Stone video, but it's
6:54
quite a show of force here on
6:57
a case that, mind
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you, one
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of the things that the reporter said
7:04
there, which I found interesting, is the
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reporters were there prior to
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the crime scene tape even being put
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up. What a coincidence. They just
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happened to be in the neighborhood in Holmby
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Hills and just happened to
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have helicopters overhead and just happened
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to be getting film
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footage of a search warrant,
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presumably a secret search warrant
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that was signed
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by a federal magistrate under
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guarded secrecy with
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an affidavit signed by an affiliate.
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And somehow the media was able
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to get there just out of
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nowhere coincidentally and watch the execution
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of that warrant. Doesn't that blow
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you away? Yeah, it's hard to
7:48
believe, but Also, not that
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hard to believe because I'm downloading right now
7:52
and I'm about to show you a video
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that I referenced earlier of Steve Gregory from
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KFI who was following Homeland Security as they
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approached the. It's not, it's
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just, you know. I would say hard
8:03
to believe that. definitely not given how
8:05
long we've been doing this to take
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a second to this video to download.
8:09
One of the only things that really
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made waves in the are in the
8:13
wake of this was I a story
8:15
that his private jet took off from
8:17
Van Eyes sort of in the same
8:19
time period as these rates are going
8:21
down and landed somewhere in the Caribbean.
8:23
I can remember the name of the
8:25
yard, the airport that it lands Apple,
8:27
every news source on new Source, every
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twitter user. Who was following this and making
8:31
waves about it said that it was a
8:33
our location that does not have an extradition treaty
8:36
with the United States. It turns out to the
8:38
I at least from my viewing that he
8:40
has been spotted in the state several times since
8:42
then. So I guess maybe he wasn't on the
8:44
jet or maybe wasn't came back spied on
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what was your read on their coverage of that.
8:50
As a reminds me of. The
8:52
story about the princess and
8:55
oh wow yeah, people were
8:57
absolutely double and triple sourcing
8:59
stories That works at least
9:01
so far categorically untrue, false
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and I had nothing to
9:05
do with what happened dad
9:07
there and is is it
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reminds me of I guess
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maybe The theme today is
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a It's interesting how the
9:15
public can just be immediately
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manipulated, the airbags fallen victim
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to add so I don't.
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Know about seizing etti moral high
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ground years and you could get.
9:27
Obliquely. Dissuaded that
9:29
old expression the year old
9:31
age Also to the circle
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the world. Is
9:36
Bennett said truce Those struggles to
9:38
catch up? Yeah, Absolutely. Here's the
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video. I'm not gonna play the
9:42
sound. Ma'am Champlain to be Ross
9:44
This is Steve Gregory who is a
9:46
Tear fi os Six Forty reporter
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who is following the Homeland Security.
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I. Ah, officials through
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the home we humbly hills neighborhood as
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they approach on p diddy home so
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yeah and you can see a few
9:58
other news vans i had them. It's
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almost like someone wanted the press to
10:03
be here when they first arrived. No,
10:05
no. Why would they want that? You
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got to keep a search for a
10:09
secret, right? Why would you ever... Oh,
10:12
by the way, look at the vans
10:14
that are there. Look at what's parked
10:16
on the curb
10:21
over there as we're looking. By the
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way, there's another video, see if you
10:25
can find it while I'm talking that
10:28
somebody drove up and this also went
10:30
by. Oh, I saw this, yeah. And
10:33
the guy said he's a neighbor. I'm the
10:35
next door neighbor and Sean's got to stop
10:38
busing in minors at night. Did you see
10:40
this? I did, absolutely. I've got it right
10:42
here. It's just going to take me a
10:44
second to download, but yeah. And
10:46
boy, that went out and was,
10:48
wow, neighbors are reporting. He did,
10:51
he buses in minors
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at night and that
10:56
went around as if there
10:59
were any resemblance to the truth. And
11:02
then maybe if you could show that
11:04
Gary and then the follow-up, it would
11:06
be very interesting to see what was
11:08
actually happening there. My
11:19
favorite part about that is
11:21
the assertion
11:31
that when his basketball goes over the fence, he just leaves
11:33
it there because he doesn't want to knock on the door.
11:36
Fine, sir, but you're in a bad
11:38
league. And what he says is, he
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says big ass bus built with what?
11:43
Miners. Miners. Gets
11:45
delivered every night and I'm his neighbor. Yeah.
11:48
By the way, just some
11:50
guy driving by that went viral. I
11:52
mean, you should see the number of
11:54
views and then guess what ended up
11:56
happening, Gary? What's that? His
11:59
mother. came by and did a
12:02
interview. Did you see this? I did not see that. Yeah,
12:05
the mother, the mother came out,
12:07
maybe Gary can find it, and
12:09
said that the kid who was
12:11
hanging out of the car claiming to be the
12:14
neighbor is actually a neighbor and
12:17
was trolling the media. You
12:20
know, like, it was like chum in
12:22
the water. I mean, they said, don't
12:25
bother me with the facts. We got a
12:27
story we got to manufacture. Yeah, I'm trying
12:29
to pull that one up right now, but
12:31
it's yeah, it's just it's absolutely crazy. And
12:34
you know, there was that there was
12:36
there was just so many different things. Let's see
12:38
here. I'm trying to find another one if you
12:40
can find it. I mean, I'm really bombarding you
12:42
with this, Gary. There was another I did a
12:45
show on News Nation this week.
12:47
I think it was News Nation. It might have been Fox.
12:50
And I followed two people who
12:52
know Sean in some fashion. One
12:55
guy had a business deal
12:57
that he obviously didn't like
13:00
the result of. And so,
13:03
you know, he was saying stuff
13:05
along the lines of if you
13:07
can find it, you know, well,
13:10
she's getting this comeuppance and,
13:12
you know, he deserves this.
13:14
And then whoever was asked
13:17
him, well, did this shock you
13:19
kind of basically the allegations about
13:21
minors and sex drive? The guy,
13:23
the guy then responds, oh, yeah,
13:25
I've never heard of anything like
13:27
that. So it's just you got
13:29
to set him up as
13:32
this. You
13:34
can say anything. You can
13:36
spread any rumor, any
13:39
kind of salacious gossip whatsoever to taint
13:41
him. And then when you actually and then
13:43
people jump on board. But then when
13:45
you ask just a simple question, did
13:47
you know you're this is somebody you
13:49
claim to be commenting on somebody that
13:51
you knew somebody you're having a business
13:53
deal with. Did you ever see anything like
13:55
this? And they'll say no, absolutely not.
13:58
And so wait. a
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slight disconnect, but this is how,
14:02
this has been one of my
14:05
big complaints, because if they
14:07
end up filing something on Diddy,
14:10
whether they indict him or not,
14:12
first thing that the prosecution
14:14
and law enforcement is going to
14:16
do is ask for a gag
14:19
order on the defense after they
14:21
have basically blanketed the culture and
14:23
the media with every salacious piece
14:26
of nonsense that you could ever
14:28
come up with, and they know
14:30
what happens when they light the
14:32
proverbial fuse here, and they're
14:35
counting on the fact that he doesn't
14:37
have a constituency that's going to come
14:40
to his aid
14:42
or support, if
14:45
you will. And that's
14:47
what ends up happening
14:50
in cases like this. It's
14:52
almost diabolical. Yeah,
14:54
and the media was just so rabid about this.
14:56
I mean, they covered it from every angle, including
14:59
did you see Ridley Scott was apparently prevented from
15:01
getting to his home and TMZ made it. That's
15:03
in his 80s. He's a neighbor, and he's trying
15:05
to get to his house. And if
15:08
you've got that, you should play that
15:10
also, because there's somebody who is, by
15:12
all accounts, legitimately a neighbor and not
15:14
trolling the media. He's just trying to
15:16
get home. Yeah, he was
15:18
very frustrated. I don't know that
15:21
I have that particular picture. I'm
15:23
still looking for the Diddy neighbor
15:25
mother thing, and I'm having a little trouble
15:27
with that. But I'm certainly
15:30
not having trouble finding the stories. I'm just
15:32
having trouble finding the video. But yeah, it's
15:34
just wild the way the media has
15:37
just covered just any hiccup in this
15:39
story, because it's getting clicks. And it's
15:42
certainly not going to break well for Diddy
15:44
if it does, in fact, come to an
15:46
indictment in a trial, because you're right, they
15:48
will call for gag order, but I will
15:50
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15:52
I'm in the midst of doing a podcast
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and then you know what happens. So if
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you track the coverage of this, and
17:50
I always say that the media
17:52
and the law enforcement's got a
17:54
symbiotic relationship, so it does not
17:57
surprise me that the search
17:59
warrants track to some degree,
18:01
even though the affidavit is under
18:03
seal, you don't have to be
18:06
a—the amazing Kreskin to figure out
18:08
what it is that they're looking
18:11
for. They
18:14
track the couple of civil
18:17
lawsuits that were filed on
18:19
the eve of the Adult
18:21
Survivors Act in New York.
18:23
Now, what has
18:25
happened since then, because like
18:27
50 Census Ex has
18:29
come out and said that the
18:32
one lawsuit is absolutely categorically false
18:34
and makes the dragster into this.
18:37
They filed in those lawsuits against
18:40
the head of UMG. They filed
18:42
against his
18:45
supposed—did he's chief of staff
18:49
alleging her to be the Jelane
18:51
Maxwell. They mentioned Prince Harry because
18:54
they're trying to get—the
18:56
lawyer is trying to create an
19:02
Epstein-like narrative here. So
19:04
what's the next thing that happens?
19:06
Now we've got people. There's a
19:08
woman who is saying that she's
19:10
willing to be operated on to
19:13
have a bullet fragment removed from
19:15
her face from the shooting
19:17
that Diddy was acquitted of in 1999.
19:21
And there's people talking about that
19:24
shooting, that Tupac, that Biggie, that
19:26
it's all part of what the
19:29
feds are looking at him for.
19:32
So there's only two explanations for that,
19:34
either the current allegations
19:36
that were
19:38
part of the civil suits, they're not
19:41
getting substantiation for that. So they've got
19:43
to widen the net and they're trying
19:45
to come up with other stuff. But
19:47
what they're going to run the head
19:50
log into is—we've talked about it before.
19:52
That was Johnny Cochran's last trial of
19:55
the shooting in the club here in New York that
19:57
he tried with Ben Brofman. was
20:00
acquitted for. So they're not going to be able
20:02
to charge them again for that. So what are
20:04
they going to do? Are they going to use
20:06
that as a predicate act for some kind of
20:08
a wide-ranging RICO operation
20:12
on Sean Diddy Combs? That
20:15
would be the only way that you could reinvigorate
20:17
that. Even then, I think
20:19
that that's fraught with problems
20:22
as well. And it
20:25
goes, it circles back to what
20:27
my belief is, is that they
20:29
most probably in this case, this
20:31
shock and awe search warrant.
20:34
And what I mean is shock and awe. November
20:37
were the lawsuits, the expiration of
20:39
the adult sexual survivors lawsuit statute
20:42
and the lawsuits that were filed.
20:44
There were then a series of
20:46
lawsuits that were filed. Most recently,
20:49
Justice named Little Rod.
20:53
And so for
20:55
the feds to pick up on this, you
20:58
either have to believe that they're
21:00
acting at warp speed, A, they
21:03
had a pre-existing investigation,
21:06
B, or they've
21:08
got somebody who's already cooperating,
21:11
or C, that they've put
21:13
somebody in front of a grand
21:15
jury, presumably, didn't get what they
21:17
wanted. And this is a way
21:19
to shake up witnesses. My guess
21:21
is C, that they're trying to
21:23
shake up witnesses. That's based on
21:26
everything I've ever seen as all
21:28
the earmarks of that, because normally
21:30
these kinds of shock and awe operations,
21:33
whether it's Marlago, Roger Stone, any
21:35
of the others, an arrest takes
21:37
place very shortly after that. We
21:39
haven't seen that yet. And
21:42
if you were his attorney, what exactly would
21:44
you be concerned with
21:46
at this point? And I'll say that
21:48
as I show the pictures, just real
21:50
quick, of Ridley Schott.
21:53
The pictures we
21:58
referenced earlier of his... his neighbor here being
22:00
frustrated, not being able to get to his home and
22:03
kind of not necessarily arguing,
22:05
but being frustrated with police who won't let
22:07
him by yet to his own home nearby.
22:11
Well, one of the things I would I
22:13
would counsel here, he's,
22:16
if you're worried about,
22:19
it would be foolish not
22:21
to be, when you've
22:23
got this kind of a show of force, or
22:26
they're going to be, is there a chapter
22:29
two or chapter three or chapter
22:31
four? Absolutely. And you'd be
22:33
foolish not to, and they should be
22:35
doing, and I'm sure are doing some
22:37
kind of, you know, Aaron Dyer is
22:39
a former federal prosecutor. He's at
22:42
a firm that has got a number
22:44
of former federal prosecutors. I'm
22:46
sure they're doing a
22:48
simultaneous or parallel investigation.
22:52
But you've got to be
22:54
worried that no matter what
22:56
your investigation divulges, by the
22:58
time you get to that
23:00
point, that the die is
23:02
already cast and they've morphed
23:04
you into a Bill Cosby,
23:06
a Harvey Weinstein, a Danny
23:08
Masterson, I mean, they just
23:10
go on and on. You
23:13
it's a you, you have
23:16
to address what is going on.
23:18
You have to just like they
23:20
use a SWAT team to enter
23:23
into the houses and execute the search for
23:25
it. You need a media SWAT
23:28
team to combat all the disinformation that's
23:30
out there. You can't let it become
23:32
urban legend or it's, it's too little
23:35
too late at the end. You can't
23:37
do it. And would you be concerned
23:39
with or what would your calculus be
23:41
on the fact that also this week
23:44
they arrested a member of his entourage
23:46
on allegations of drug possession and they're
23:48
claiming that he was his mule. Did
23:51
you see that one? Well, you know,
23:53
it drives me crazy if I'm if
23:55
I'm the lawyer, I'm out there, you
23:57
know, I've said it. You Know, it's A. Soon
24:00
to be when people use the
24:02
term meal or because what they
24:04
found it with was consistent was
24:06
personal use ants. Because personal use
24:08
doesn't fit with the narrative of
24:10
a drug smuggler. They that what
24:12
did they call it always abuse
24:14
or gates? I mean come on,
24:16
let's stay. Let's try to tenders
24:19
some of this commentary two Sacks
24:21
as opposed to just wild speculation,
24:23
right? I mean, Twenty five? The
24:25
world. Who is ever talking about.
24:27
Ah, I did east parties
24:29
I yelled full disclosure years ago
24:31
I went to one of the
24:34
white party. it l legs A
24:36
here yo Was it epic? Yes
24:38
Was there are indeed a pure
24:40
that there were busloads of minors.
24:42
There are quite the opposite. You
24:44
couldn't fight your way into the
24:46
place. yeah Now know since parties
24:48
are notoriously impossible the it into
24:50
and they say you know I
24:52
am from the recording nine Dressed
24:54
County so strict that you see
24:56
you know ala celebrity stripping off
24:58
pieces. Of clothing because they're not light and
25:00
they won't be like and if they're not wearing
25:02
them So yeah it's side By all accounts. those
25:04
parties are absolutely amazing and I certainly can see
25:07
to it first hand. By Arts and Smith you
25:09
can. I have the best
25:11
story about the opposing party escapades but
25:13
I would get home if I told
25:15
the story but it was one of
25:17
the best incidents. I took a couple
25:19
of people there and you when. I.
25:22
Just wish sunday when I'm on
25:24
my deathbed I'd get addicted out
25:26
all these stories because the at
25:29
the in. The. Aftermath of
25:31
Studies White Party was actually
25:33
a almost as epic is
25:35
the party itself. While. Being
25:37
there with pan pan I take announce. I
25:40
can't wait to start lay an egg that
25:42
if I were if I am a curb
25:44
it as I'd like they're Gary. Just take
25:46
a pillow and put it over my head.
25:48
Asteroids are you the story? Sedona to sit
25:50
around for the ramifications. turn
25:52
off are like that's the light is that
25:54
original would make a used to be my
25:56
father's line is your survivor that point we
25:58
have to we'll be around and I become
26:01
that guy. He says, just put a pillow
26:03
over my head and put me out of
26:05
my misery. Well, I think that's a reasonable
26:07
sentiment because it's one that I share as
26:09
well. I hope that that's a long ways
26:11
off for both of us, but yeah, it's,
26:13
you know, no one wants to go out
26:15
with a whimper. So here's hoping that we don't
26:17
have to experience that, but Mark, have a great
26:19
Easter. I'm looking forward to you being able
26:21
to break your fast and I look forward
26:23
to seeing you in person sometime soon. You
26:26
got it. Thanks, GPS and have a
26:28
wonderful, wonderful day with you and your
26:31
family. Thank you so much. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
26:36
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26:42
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