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doubt, Adam Crow, that's Mark. Hard
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out. Soft taco,
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Garigos. Coming from New York
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City. What's on your mind, Mark?
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Well, you got a a compliment today,
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my I've been on Zoom
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depositions all day, and
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people are walking in and out of this
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this office that I use here.
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And somebody who will remain
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nameless who you know very well said,
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You know, your style has been
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influenced by Adam. Oh. My
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style has been influenced by Adam. And
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he said, you tend to
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you tend to you always tend to
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kind of
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steamroll, but now you steamroll
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with a certain sidewalk fare. Nice
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enough.
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I'll tell Adam, he'll be very gay. I think
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you'll be laddered by that.
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The French steamroller. French
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Hard out. Soft taco, French
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steamroller, Garagos. We're
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gonna keep piling up those nicknames. Where
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do we begin? There's so many good things
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going on. As we speak,
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I think they filed murder
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charges or improper transportation
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of a body. Gary, can you check that out? Somebody
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told me that and I just can't even believe it. This
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Massachusetts mom case, which
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is kind of the missing white woman
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dujure, and you
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know, I as I indicated you
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before, Adam, we're we you know,
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we're in the back to the pre Trump era
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Right.
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Mhmm. Yeah. Gary. The
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is this it, Gary?
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Yeah. This is the the Norfolk District Attorney
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announcing it. It's about a minute. We can watch it.
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Okay. The detectives in the cohesive police
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department and the Massachusetts State Police detectives
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assigned to the Norfolk Artistic Attorney's Office
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have been involved in an intensive investigation
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into the fate of Anna Walsh, a
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thirty nine year old co housing mother of three
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since she has first missing on January
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fourth. Earlier this investigation,
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the police developed probable cause to
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believe that her husband, Brian Walsh,
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aged forty seven, At Missled, police
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investigators on material matters important
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to the search for Anna Walsh. He
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has put not guilty of those charges and is
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currently being held at the Norfolk County
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House of Correction. A
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continued investigation is now a lot pleased
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to obtain in the restaurant, charging
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Brian Walsh with the murder of his wife.
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Mister Walsh will be transported to the Queen's
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District Court for arraignment, the
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charge of murder. Additional details
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in investigation and the evidence in
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support of those charges are likely to be presented
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at arraignment, but will not be disclosed
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at this time. This marks the
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second allegation of domestic violence automasizing
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off White County less than a
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month. I thought so very much
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for the family these crimes have left
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behind.
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You know, I First
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of all, I love that accent, May
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ten. I just wanna say that it's That's why I wanna
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deploy it, which is for the accent. Yeah.
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Reminds me, like, Dickie word from
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Los Angeles. Say I
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wanna say we arrested him after he popped
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his car, but the the
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the interesting thing about that I
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get the guy a certain amount of kudos because that's
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basically he encapsulated a
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whole lot of information and he didn't
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go overboard. You know, he
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He talked about the arrest warrant,
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the probable cause. He gave the
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background. He said it's sealed
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and told the arraignment tomorrow. And
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I and you probably should have
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said he's presumed innocent, but, you know, I
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you can't have everything. And
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his heart send goes out to the family
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as the second incident of domestic
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violence. So pretty much a primer
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for all you prosecutors or,
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you know, retired domestic federal
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prosecutors. You
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could you could learn from that. That was
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probably, I give I give him a
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ninety two on that. So
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sync, well done. And
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except for the pronunciation of the word,
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charge, versus charge.
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But, you know, who are we? Because words
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are different everywhere all the
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time, and I'm not judging. So,
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what else? Gary, maybe you should find Gary,
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while Adam and I were talking, there is
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something that I thought on the Internet about a
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woman trying to say with her accent.
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New Hampshire. And she
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it's a reporter. And if you could find that, I
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I'd love for you to play it because she repeats
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it a number of times. But the the
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the the MA connection to
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this case
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is apparently there was
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a West Hollywood art gallery
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that was duped if you
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believe what's being reported by
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the husband on some
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paintings and then the wife or for those
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who weren't in the weeds here or the the
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wife supposedly according
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to the husband had left on January first
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was gonna go down. She works during the week
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down in Washington, D. C. And said
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she was leaving. And the
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false statements was he
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said that his He
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was taking machines out for ice cream and
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apparently they triangulated him
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cell phones to somewhere else. Well, it's an
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interesting case and it's kind of captured
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the imagination, not the least of which because
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they don't have a body yet. So there's
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the gone girl aspect. And then they
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did apparently, if you believe what's been
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leaked out there, find hacksaws and
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other tools with blood
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and DNA presumably contain
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on there in addition to the contained
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in the blood and also
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in this, it's been variously
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reported that this guy is been
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referred to as the sociopath and has
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been institutionalized. So
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you've got all kinds of cross
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currents here. Plus, She's a pretty
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white woman, which checks the box
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for cable news wall
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to wall coverage. What is the
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rules with the triangulation of the
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cell phones? Because I always think about you
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and Scott Peterson twenty
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years ago
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now. Been twenty years? What
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do you almost twenty two
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years. So almost twenty two years ago
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where you couldn't get that
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information. Right? Well,
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you got the information, but boy, that
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was kind of Indian substant
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stages. I mean, they they
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we did a a
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hearing that lasted well over
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a week on on that.
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And then during the trial itself, we
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spent quite a bit of time on it because back
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then they were just kind
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of scratching the surface of that and
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mitochondrial DNA, dogs
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sent evidence, all of those
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things that you had to have hearings
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that would test that stuff
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and I'll never forget some
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of the things where they said
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that the that's where I
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discovered. I had another case ten years ago
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in Northern California, where it
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was the same kind of test
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where it became apparent
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that it's not like a
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GPS where you
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have a very sophisticated, you
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know, somebody does find my phone
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or they do maps. And it's
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your location. Now you look at that
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and you can kind of drill
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down and you get within basically
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an eight foot radius. The
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cell phones are different because
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depending on where you are, I could be sitting here
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on Fifth Avenue. And they're my
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cell phone. I could be using this cell
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phone. But depending on what
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the traffic is, it may
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hit in one part of my conversation
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with an an antenna that's in Madison
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Square Park. It could then bounce
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if it gets too busy there to
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some place by the Empire State Building,
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even go up town. So you could it
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could look like you're bouncing between and
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cell phone antennae and
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that you're moving and you could be sitting in the
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exact same spot. So
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that is not as good
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as one would fact, in
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terms of the locations,
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I'm told, I don't know there's
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been ported yet, but I'm told in this
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Massachusetts' mom case
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that they have the
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softballed tower or locations
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of the husband, the accused, the
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defendant as of tomorrow morning.
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And that those locations I
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mean, I hate to break the news here,
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but they I'm told that those
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locations correspond to
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where they found evidence,
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and that's why they were so confident,
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and why they felt like they
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could file the charges. Because remember they without
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a body, and the fact that he's being
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held already. What's the
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rush you would say? Well, I would
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suspect that they found something,
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that they thought, hey, we've got a
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high degree of confidence now.
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So it's time that we file these charges and
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get it on the road. has also been
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reported that some of the places
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that he traveled to were outside of
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the zone he was allowed to for
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his already his current
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home confinement for the last
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art
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charge, which is a
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great point, Kerry, because for
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those who don't know, he had a
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didn't he have a monitoring device
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on him -- Correct. -- which was
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that is a GPS device.
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So unlike your phone, the
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ankle bracelet has one of the
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GPS's, which is
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different than what it is to track
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somebody by the cellphone antennas
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and the cellphone travel.
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So, you know, you would think
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that this guy would have would have had
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enough sense to have not
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only not traveled out his side of his
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GPS micro
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geo targeted area but
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also not to them engage
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and start talking and
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give bad information to somebody when
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they're asking We have the
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reporter accent ready. Gary
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found it. Okay. Yep. Which
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I haven't heard. Parts
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of this bill are similar to the executive
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orders that have already been put in place
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in New Hampshire, New
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Hampshire. Kerry
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one more time. I just think it's Yeah. I mean,
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if she's an enduring -- Right.
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-- story. Parts of this bill are
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similar to the executive orders that have
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already been put in place in New
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Hampshire, New Hampshire. But
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who who's letting the tape
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out? Is that the
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cameraman who I'm
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I'm guessing that there's some
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guy who works with her
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who got thwarted
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from a date. And so -- Businesses.
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-- payback. But
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be careful because I think
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it's
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endearing. In fact, I think even the governor of
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New Hampshire Sunruno, I think he
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said you're welcome to say you have
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Shai anytime. Yeah. She's been killing it
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on social media since this got out there.
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She she has owned it and just
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started retweeting
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people, and she's all about it. Alright.
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What other cases are we looking
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at? Gary and or Mark?
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Yeah. Gary, what about Bernadotte?
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Try try trial next week?
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Yeah. That's my read.
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Yeah. Burdagh. Trial next week.
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Burdagh, you remember, this is the guy
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who comes from a long line of lawyers
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slash prosecutors in
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that particular region
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of South Carolina, Dick
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Carpoolian. Who I know is a great
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lawyer is defending
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him. I
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I think that there will be
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you know, rumor has that there will be a very robust
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defense to that case. Is
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that the story of where the kid
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died in the boat? Which who
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may have been over the legal limit. And
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then later
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on, there was another killing, and then the
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cops ran him down, and then he tried to
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kill himself. Tried to yeah. He
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he botched a a murder for hire
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thing. He his wife
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and son were found murdered
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literally with different weapons at one of their
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homes, then it turned out he had
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embezzled a bunch of money from their
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former housekeeper, and then there was just I
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mean, it just it kept on folding him. But then
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he attempted to kill himself when the
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cops surrounded him? Or am
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I making that up? He got out of his
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car. Here's the lady. He
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claimed this is
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the prosecution theory.
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He had been called in a
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that basically, he had a ex
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client kind of do
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a a staged
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card jacket where he was gonna
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get killed surviving son would get the
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insurance proceeds. But -- Mhmm. -- I was
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just to compliment you. As a
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retired federal prosecutor, you really have your
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hand or finger on the pulse
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of the state court cable news
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staples. I I'm very
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impressed. I know nothing of the case
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other than what you spoke
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of it. Several years ago, but
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I do remember a boating
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accident of someone
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was over served. They never looked
13:28
into it, then there was murder, and then a
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sort of fleeing that
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involved an attempted suicide or
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a fake suicide or something.
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But he's that
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trial is is beginning now.
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Yeah. And that's I we will
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cover that because I think it's
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a fascinating It's got everything you'd
13:47
ever want. It's got drugs and
13:49
sex and housekeepers and
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it's I mean, it just it's got
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the a wide it's got
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a wide range. It's quite
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a quite a wide gamut of
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subjects. I think
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one of the others that's kind of
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captured the imagination, the
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in the tabloid chronicles,
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is this case involving
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the Idaho fours, they call it, they
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brutal and horrific homicides of these four
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college students. That
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is interesting to me for a variety
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of reasons. I've already talked with
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you about some of the problems I
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see or what the defense is gonna be
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concentrating on in terms of the prosecution
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evidence. Now there's all kinds of
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other theories making the rounds on
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the Internet amongst the
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true crime, true crime sleuth.
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One of which is there
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was you might remember there
14:44
was a body cam footage in
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Indiana of
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the father and son, miss Bryant,
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who's the defendant. They were apparently
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driving the Alantra from
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the Washington to Pennsylvania where
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he was later arrested. They
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were stopped not once but twice by
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the Indiana authorities.
15:04
And one of the body cams that are
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talking about a SWAT shooting. I
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don't know if you remember that. Gary
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may remember, well,
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now the latest theory
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is is the
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SWAT shooting involved a
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security guard, and it took
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place in in I
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believe in Idaho or
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Washington. And that
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security guard, they're
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now saying, and the SWAT
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killing of him is somehow
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related to Brian
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Colbert. And there are people who are
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saying it's even that that
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was the person that that's what they're covering
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one of the reasons now that there's all
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the speculation is, as
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I mentioned before, there was a
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ceiling of the search warrant
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on Colburger's apartment.
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And one of the reasons they
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gave for the ceiling was
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that it would bring
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threats to law enforcement. Well,
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I can tell you that that's a very
16:03
unusual statement. In fact, it's
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interesting that the Massachusetts mom missing
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That's just its mom case. Talk about
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alliteration, as Gary would say. They
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they have a sealing order there, but the sealing
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order just not invoked throughout the
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law. Well, this
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case also involve
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triangulations of cellphones.
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Right? Exactly. Exactly.
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Bouncing back and forth, and
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the fact that the cell phone was
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was not pinging on any cell
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towers during the three to five
16:32
AM time period when they believe the
16:34
murder was committed. Also, just
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throwing another little monkey wrench into
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the prosecution theory. Remember
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when they first started this case, they
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were saying that the murder happened between
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three and four. We're now learning
16:47
that they're they're kind of moving
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that just like they were moving the year
16:51
of the Elantra. They're moving that now to
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between four and four twenty three
16:55
because they've got a door dash delivery at
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four o'clock. They've got
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a talk used by one
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of the people in the House of four twelve, and
17:03
they've got a video or
17:05
a ring camera or
17:08
something that's fifty feet away picking up
17:10
a dog barking at four
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seventeen. So and then
17:14
they a a triangulation
17:16
of the cell phone sometime well
17:18
after that. And they
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now have gone back to the cell
17:22
phone records and they've got I
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believe the day before they think that their enlantra
17:27
or the fold was in the vicinity.
17:29
So they're saying there was there
17:31
was some stocking It's also being
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reported today just
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right before we got in the air that
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there is a connection between
17:40
cold burger and one of the
17:42
victims by direct message,
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I believe. Garrity may have that. I'm
17:46
not sure if I gave him
17:49
Yes. I I do have that. So basically, what they're saying
17:51
is is that they don't even know if
17:53
the victim was aware that he was trying to slide
17:55
into her d m's because you
17:57
don't get alerted unless you follow that person. So
18:00
if, you know, a random person was
18:02
the DMU or me on in
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gram. It would go separate folder than if what someone we
18:06
follow were to DM us. So they don't know
18:08
if she was even aware, but apparently, he
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sent several messages over and over
18:13
again nothing aggressive, but he
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was described as persistent.
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So why would they seal his
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apartment or seal the evidence
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from his
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apartment? What she says is very atypical. I be
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when they invoke the fact that it's a
18:28
threat to law enforcement, you'll remember
18:30
early on, people were railing
18:33
and just ragging
18:35
all over law enforcement, the local
18:37
law enforcement in this case. My
18:39
guess is, and I'm gonna say, oh, I'll
18:41
be very upfront. I think it's a guess I'm speculating. But the
18:44
fact that they invoke threats to law
18:46
enforcement leads me to believe
18:48
that when they came out and said there were a hundred
18:50
percent sure nobody else was involved and
18:53
blah blah blah, that now there appears
18:55
that there were some other things that
18:57
either were missed or that the
18:59
statements were a little bit too or
19:02
uttered with too much certitude, if you know
19:04
what I mean. Maybe there was
19:06
somebody else who either a company
19:08
knew about before or after,
19:10
I don't know. I mean, like I say,
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it's a speculation is just a telltale sign
19:15
is when they say threats to law
19:17
enforcement because who's gonna why
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would you perceive a threat to law enforcement
19:22
when you've arrested somebody and you've charged somebody
19:24
and presumably on the basis of
19:26
a affidavit, you've got a circumstantial case
19:29
against that person. It's
19:31
interesting to me. And then there was his public
19:34
defender out of
19:36
Pennsylvania. I remind you, this guy was
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interviewed yesterday. And
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he was saying they were I saw
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being asked, did
19:44
he tell you about the facts of
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the case? Not a bad
19:48
answer by him. No. And I didn't want to
19:50
hear him. Because and he
19:52
said, he tried to tell me a couple of
19:54
times. I said, no. That tells me a
19:56
guy who's experienced and and it's been
19:58
around the block a couple of times in criminal
20:00
defense. Because the last thing you wanna
20:02
do is have somebody, especially when
20:04
you're defending the person, just
20:06
on extradition, which is a different
20:09
task than on the case
20:11
itself, the case in cheap, the
20:13
underlying case. That he was gonna get for.
20:15
The last thing you wanna do is lock
20:17
yourself into a story that the client's telling
20:19
you before you know what the prosecution's
20:22
already Because you put yourself
20:24
into a predicament, an
20:26
ethical dilemma when you do
20:28
that. And number number two,
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you don't wanna really kind
20:32
of have yet until
20:34
you see what the prosecution's got. I
20:36
mean, that, you you know, the the way the
20:38
system is set up is you're
20:40
there as the defense lawyer, and your
20:42
job is to literally
20:44
make the prosecution jump
20:46
over the hurdles or jump through hoops,
20:48
whatever cliche you wanna use, you
20:50
were there to hold their feet to the fire. That's
20:52
another good cliche. But
20:55
you do not want to
20:58
necessarily go into it
21:00
and wed your client to
21:02
a certain story because that may foreclose
21:04
you from putting them on the stand at
21:06
a later point. And so he was saying
21:08
the same thing that the client was
21:12
adamant that he wanted to Brian
21:14
Colbert exonerate himself,
21:17
which suggests that that he felt
21:20
like that he was surprised
21:22
or shocked that he was being charged
21:24
with these crimes. Well,
21:28
would the defender
21:31
for Colberger might
21:34
he say tell
21:36
me all about it. And then when the press
21:38
asked him, did you talk to your client
21:40
about it? He'd say no. You
21:43
and it brings up a great point
21:45
because I he came very
21:47
close to disclosing the attorney
21:50
client, and you can get into
21:52
trouble because you could you
21:55
could do a waiver. The privilege
21:57
of your conversation with the client is
21:59
helped by the client. Unless the
22:01
client authorizes you to
22:04
to waive that privilege,
22:07
you've got a duty, a
22:09
sworn duty to not reveal
22:11
what the client has told you at all
22:13
peril to yourself. So
22:15
the client can say, look, I'm gonna tell you, but
22:17
don't tell anybody. That's I
22:20
could see that. What's breaking
22:23
in the Joe Biden classified
22:26
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22:28
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23:52
latest with the Joe Biden
23:54
and
23:54
and the dynamic.
23:55
You have a video you
23:57
have a video clip
24:00
for this.
24:01
Is there one you're thinking of?
24:04
That there was something that came
24:06
out very recently you
24:09
know, they you're now at the point,
24:11
by the way, for those who
24:13
aren't in the weeds on this.
24:15
You'll remember that there
24:17
was a a brouhaha about
24:21
classified documents being found
24:24
at Barlogo. You might also
24:26
remember, yeah, there you go. And I
24:28
was just when you saw the
24:30
photograph of
24:32
the top secret documents laid out on the floor at
24:34
Mar a Lago. What did you think to yourself?
24:37
Looking at that image. How
24:40
that could possibly happen,
24:43
how why anyone could be that irresponsible.
24:46
And I thought what data was in there that may
24:49
compromise sources and methods. By
24:51
that, I mean, names of people who
24:53
helped or etcetera. And
24:55
it's just totally
24:58
irresponsible. Yeah.
25:00
But you you remember, Adam,
25:02
and I got you know, the
25:05
usual blowback from people
25:08
who are
25:11
Joe Biden supporters because at the
25:13
time, people said, well, you're
25:15
defending Trump. And I said, no. I I think I
25:17
made the distinction. He
25:19
said, look, he's
25:21
not above the law.
25:23
He is the president
25:26
and the classification system
25:28
is such that he's at
25:30
the top of the pyramid here
25:33
for classified documents.
25:35
So stop talking about, you
25:37
know, this false equivalency, though, well,
25:39
if reality winner had done
25:41
it or if somebody else had done
25:43
it, they'd be in prison. Right? But
25:45
they weren't the the
25:47
United States. There is
25:49
a reason why we have a
25:51
president, a classification system
25:53
that goes up the the pyramid,
25:55
so to speak. And we had a lot
25:57
of blowback for that. And the
26:00
same thing here, oh my god,
26:02
even the the current
26:04
president is It's so irresponsible.
26:06
It's methods and and this or that.
26:08
And I I believe at the time we
26:11
also said, by the way, when
26:13
people were saying Trump
26:15
had it in a closet with a
26:17
kind of a crummy lock. And I think
26:19
you and I Well, it's not like he doesn't have
26:21
a a secret service
26:24
contingent that's there at
26:26
Marlago. There's not like people are
26:28
rummaging around without any
26:30
kind of federal law enforcement presence.
26:33
And I remember some
26:35
rather caustic remarks about
26:37
that. it sure has
26:39
changed, hasn't it? Because not
26:41
once, not twice, but
26:43
three times, they're now
26:45
finding documents not just at
26:47
the vice presidential kind
26:49
of think tank area, but
26:51
in the garage next to the corvette, I
26:53
think in the last two
26:55
locations. Right? Yeah. Except for I'm
26:58
unclear. You know, I've seen
27:00
it like they go. You
27:02
can see Biden backing the corvette up
27:04
on an episode of Jay Leno's Garage and
27:06
see these boxes in the
27:09
back Those are the classified documents, and
27:11
I'm like, or it's the recycler
27:14
newspaper from nineteen seventy
27:16
seven. Like, how do you know in
27:18
those boxes in the corner?
27:20
Now somebody just decided those
27:22
were the actual documents
27:25
behind the corvette in the corner of the garage by
27:27
the garage door hinge,
27:30
but I'm like, I don't know
27:32
that that's them. Not not that it
27:35
makes a difference, but there's a
27:37
pile of junk, you know, like a
27:39
lampshade and some photo albums
27:41
and some cardboard boxes. That
27:43
are in the back of the garage piled up. Now,
27:46
they could be the documents or
27:48
they could just be a bunch of
27:51
shits scattered around a garage. We
27:53
don't we don't know. Either way, they're in the
27:55
garage. It's it's
27:58
not an skews, and it's not secure, but to
28:00
circle a pile of junk and
28:02
go, these are the documents.
28:04
I think they're playing a little fast
28:07
and loose with the truth there. It's a sort
28:09
of theatrics at that
28:11
point. But -- Yeah. -- a brick
28:13
a bridge too far. But by the way, Can
28:15
we talk about his corvette for a second? Because I it's
28:17
always been one of my favorites. What year is
28:19
that? Do you believe? Sixty seven? Sixty
28:21
seven, they say. In that
28:24
parking upon Hunter Green with
28:27
the with the face interior. Now
28:31
they call that isn't that the
28:34
build blast edition?
28:36
Right? Or I've got
28:39
Maybe that's blue with the tan. But that's
28:41
a heck of a car. I've always I've always loved
28:43
that car. Yeah. I like it too.
28:45
I always you know, the thing that was
28:48
funny about about
28:50
politicians now that I I find funny
28:52
about every every politician,
28:54
every musician, every thing. Everyone
28:56
has to explain that for a while they lived out
28:58
of their car. That's that's one
29:01
story. You know, everyone has to claim
29:03
poverty for some reason or you
29:05
have no street cred.
29:07
So the rap version of this is you
29:09
grew up in South Central. You dealt
29:11
drugs. You're in a gang. You know,
29:13
you had to pop a cap and a
29:15
few ass is, but you've left it
29:17
behind you. And then the white guy version is
29:19
is, we grew up poor.
29:21
We didn't have money. I had to sleep in my
29:23
car for a while when I moved out to
29:25
Los Angeles. And the thing that was
29:27
funny about Biden was I was caught on
29:29
to what because I saw that episode of Jay
29:31
Leno's Garage where he
29:33
was very proudly showing off a
29:35
sixty seven convertible corvette.
29:37
He was like, you know, Scranton Joe
29:39
grew up, hard Scrubble,
29:42
Family, just enough to make ends meet.
29:44
Anyway, as my wedding
29:46
gift when I was twenty two, I got
29:48
this brand new convertible corvette.
29:51
And I Now here's all I'm
29:53
saying, everybody. You could
29:55
just say we're pretty middle class
29:57
and I got a my
29:59
dad cashed it in and bought me a corvette. But you you
30:01
can't say sort of hard scrabble,
30:03
ham and egger from
30:05
Sprint and got a
30:08
corvette. On my wedding day
30:10
at age twenty three because
30:12
I don't know anybody who got
30:14
a brand new corvette for the wedding.
30:16
I may have gotten like
30:18
ten speed blender or toaster
30:21
oven or something or nothing. It's it's
30:23
unclear. I I don't know
30:25
anyone who got a corvette but I certainly
30:27
don't know any poor blue collar
30:29
hard scrabble folks that got a
30:31
brand new corvette for
30:35
their wedding gift from their parents
30:37
in their very early twenties?
30:39
I'm with you. I'm
30:42
with you. But circling
30:45
back to the classified documents, now
30:47
that they're finding them, I
30:51
think Gary had mentioned on Bard the other day that
30:55
friend of the show, Karen Magnifolo,
30:58
was saying, This basically sticks
31:00
up pork in the Marlago prosecution.
31:04
And I couldn't agree more
31:06
because how in the world are
31:08
you going to with a straight
31:11
face if you're a
31:13
special counsel indite
31:15
Trump for that when
31:17
it seems like you've got every
31:19
couple of days more
31:22
documents turning up unless,
31:24
of course, you're one of the apologists for
31:27
this, who now want to
31:29
compare the degree of
31:31
documents or the quantity of documents
31:34
and how many were top
31:36
secret that Trump had versus how
31:38
many that were top secret that
31:40
Biden That
31:42
tells me points out just
31:44
that you've elevated the sublime
31:46
to the ridiculous in terms of
31:48
this whole thing. I would say,
31:51
the idea at this point that
31:53
you're still going to pursue this
31:55
by virtue of special counsel or whatever
31:57
else. By the way, the lawyers
32:00
for Trump were in the crosshairs
32:03
of the Department of
32:05
Justice before they appointed
32:07
a special counsel Remember all the people
32:09
who are saying, oh, the lawyers, they got
32:12
obstruction blah blah blah
32:14
because they signed a declaration or
32:16
they represented the DOJ. Well,
32:19
guess what there's private
32:21
lawyers on Biden's team who
32:23
are finding or discovering
32:25
these documents and turning them over
32:28
too. What are they gonna do? What are you gonna say, oh, you
32:30
turned off after document dump
32:32
number two. You're gonna say what happened
32:34
between that and document dump
32:36
classified dump number three. It
32:38
really kind of points out this idea
32:40
that the criminalization of
32:43
the political sphere I
32:46
THINK HAS JUST GOT TO BE RADE
32:48
IN TO SOME DEGREE.
32:50
Andrew: WELL, ALSO, IT
32:53
STRIKS ME THAT It's why
32:55
people need to be a little more
32:57
measured. And what I'm saying
32:59
is is it kinda reminds
33:02
me of I think it James
33:04
Franco, and I'll tell you
33:06
why actor James Franco.
33:09
When we're we're in the throes
33:11
of times up in me
33:13
too. Remember? And Al
33:15
Franklin would get caught for nothing
33:17
burger, and everyone would just pile on.
33:20
Right? And nobody ever said, you know, let's put
33:22
things into context here, not
33:24
everyone's Harvey Weinstein, you
33:26
know, slow your roll just a
33:28
little bit. And at some
33:30
point, they would pile on. They'd
33:32
go, yeah, I have zero tolerance for this
33:34
stuff. What Al Franklin did
33:36
was the gusting. He should be
33:38
relieved of his duties, as a congressman,
33:40
blah blah blah, and then loam behold some
33:42
picture of you, what what
33:44
we'd find. Or you'd be
33:46
talking about Black
33:48
Lives Matter endlessly, and then we'd
33:50
find some picture you at a Halloween party
33:52
from nineteen ninety two going as
33:54
one of milli and
33:56
Orphanilei. You know what I mean? And the problem
33:58
is is you didn't give a measured
34:00
response the first time. And
34:02
so Biden does a sixty minutes
34:04
interview and they go, what about Marilago
34:06
and Class A note that's irresponsible. It's
34:08
discussing who could possibly
34:11
do this. And what kind of jeopardy could it cost?
34:13
He now if he had said and
34:15
I'm telling you they play that tape
34:17
ad nauseam now. It's no boy.
34:19
Here we go. How irresponsible. Standards and
34:21
methods and practices and and and and
34:24
peril and danger and
34:26
irresponsible. And who could be
34:28
so irresponsible? If
34:30
if these guys could answer a question like,
34:33
what about Trump and Marillago?
34:35
Well, I haven't seen all
34:37
the evidence yet. It doesn't
34:40
look good, but it does happen
34:42
quite frequently. Historically,
34:44
the president's take stuff back and
34:46
some of it's classified and they have the power to declassify and
34:48
we're not sure if that's the
34:50
that's the case here, but he's
34:54
not setting a precedent
34:56
by doing this as a precedent part
34:58
in the almost pun.
35:00
This is a pretty
35:02
frequent practice I don't agree with it, but it does happen a lot on
35:04
both sides of the If you give us some sort of
35:06
answer like that, then we cannot do
35:08
the uh-huh.
35:10
When we find your boxes in your garage because it
35:13
is quite frequent and it
35:15
does happen at nauseam. In
35:19
Washington. So if you'd start giving a little more measured
35:23
non bullshit responses, Then
35:26
later on when we find out that you
35:28
grabbed a titty in junior
35:30
high because ten minutes ago, you
35:32
were sitting down explaining you had
35:34
zero tolerance for any any
35:36
time a man touch. And now we got
35:38
somebody coming out of woodworks saying you grab
35:40
their titti. In the
35:42
quad, in the ninth grade, in
35:44
nineteen eighty seven, it's gonna
35:46
bite you in the ass. So please be a
35:48
little more measured with your answers because they do
35:50
come around and bite you in the
35:52
ass. Nope. I couldn't I couldn't
35:54
agree more. And I
35:56
guess it's kind of
35:58
the same thing that I like
36:00
to try to counsel that
36:02
there is a presumption of innocence
36:04
before you. I know everybody loves
36:06
a good you know,
36:08
prosecutorial or
36:10
gang bangs, I like to say, but at
36:12
the same time, you you be
36:14
careful because it can boomerang on you. I
36:16
want Mark, Gary. What do you what do you mean? Yeah. What's
36:18
interesting? I didn't send it to Gary,
36:20
but I know he'll be interested. Elon
36:26
Musk is in trial in the
36:28
Northern District Federal Court.
36:30
And it revolves around
36:32
that tweet where he was
36:34
saying that he might take Tesla private.
36:36
And so he was being
36:38
sued for, yeah, I believe in a
36:40
class action by shareholders
36:42
and they're picking a jury. And
36:44
the they brought in
36:46
or that I think they did some engineers.
36:48
And it's amazing and it was in San Francisco and
36:50
the lawyers from us wanted to
36:53
change a venue, but not the
36:55
least of which is because They
36:58
believed, I think, validly,
37:01
that mustn't get a fair
37:03
trial in San Francisco, especially in
37:05
the Silicon Valley because
37:08
when he moved from there, there
37:10
was a great deal of blowback.
37:14
And watching some of these
37:16
the what's being
37:20
reported jurors are saying in San Francisco about
37:23
Elon Musk tends to
37:25
give some creds to
37:27
the fact that it may
37:29
be somewhat hard to find a jury that's
37:32
going to not be judgmental going
37:34
into it about Musk
37:36
because the judge
37:38
himself characterized various of the jurors as being
37:40
radioactive. Mhmm. And but
37:42
that was interesting. And it's an interesting
37:46
phenomena. That here's a
37:48
guy, Musk, who whatever you think
37:50
about him is clearly
37:53
a great innovator
37:55
who will be remembered it, the very least for
37:57
that. But how quickly kind
38:00
of he he turned from
38:02
a darling of one
38:04
side to kind of the bookie bit
38:06
ahead of the same side. You know what I mean? Well, I feel the same way
38:08
about the left going nuts
38:12
over getting to the bottom of the FBI's involvement
38:15
in elections or Hunter Biden laptops
38:17
as I do with Elon
38:20
Musk buying Twitter
38:22
and saying, I'm gonna open the floodgates
38:24
and let all the information out there.
38:26
All of a sudden, the free speech activists
38:29
and the people that were very suspicious
38:32
of not only the
38:34
government FBI's and
38:36
the CIA's who have now
38:38
become a huge advocate for big pharma, the FBI,
38:41
the CIA, big
38:44
government and hate guys
38:46
like Elon Musk for opening
38:48
up Twitter. It's making me a
38:51
little I should say. And
38:53
it's really upside down world and you guy you
38:56
and I bring it up every ten minutes and I
38:58
talk to Drew about it all the time because you
39:00
have to be
39:02
old enough to grow up as I did with a sort of hippie
39:04
mom who hated big
39:06
pharma, hated the government, hated
39:08
the FBI, hated
39:10
the CIA, did not trust any of
39:12
these entities. And now that
39:15
was the the domain
39:17
of domain of the right in the
39:20
Republicans who champion the CIA, the
39:22
FBI, big government, and
39:24
big pharma, And now we've
39:26
done a complete one eighty
39:28
and free speech. Free
39:30
speech was always a let your
39:32
freak flag fly thing on the left. Now
39:34
we have to have information ambassadors
39:37
to make sure that speech
39:39
is vetted and California
39:42
has to have doctors that
39:44
comply with known COVID
39:46
therapeutics. Otherwise, they'll be shipped.
39:48
No COVID speech zone. Right.
39:50
I it's it's it's
39:53
it's completely been flipped. And a
39:55
and a guy like Elon Musk in
39:57
the seventies to my mom
39:59
would have been considered an innovator and a free
40:02
speech, absolute, absolutist,
40:04
and she would have been all in
40:07
for him. Now Of course,
40:09
the fact that they attack Elon Musk because he
40:12
says he's opening up
40:14
Twitter suggests
40:16
that Twitter was in your hip pocket in doing your
40:18
bidding. Otherwise, you'd have either no
40:21
opinion or be
40:24
happy. That and to hide behind the, you know, open it
40:26
up for hate speech, that's such a thin
40:29
veneer. That that
40:31
is such a frivelous
40:34
excuse for why you're
40:36
pushing back on what Elon
40:38
Musk is is doing. Spurious
40:40
is the word I was looking
40:43
for. So it is interesting that
40:45
he's drawn the ire of everyone on
40:47
the left after being a hero of
40:49
everyone on the left. Simply
40:52
by saying we're opening up
40:54
Twitter and we're gonna release all
40:56
the data that shows
40:58
that your government and your FBI
41:00
and your CDC and your Fouches and all the rest
41:02
of them were communicating with them in
41:04
a deliberate attempt to shut down
41:08
any voices that
41:10
arose asking questions about vaccinations
41:12
or safety or any
41:16
any protocols It's it's exactly upside down. My mom would have
41:18
been all about it as an
41:20
original sort of crosbie stills
41:22
and nash
41:24
HIPPY GIRL. SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN ALL ABOUT WHAT HE'S DOING AND
41:26
WANTING TO BLOW THE LID OFF OF
41:28
ANY INVOLVEMENT WITH THE FBI CIA,
41:30
BIG GOVERNMENT AND BIG Pharma.
41:34
That's
41:34
the part. I finally have to go back to the seventies. You got
41:36
you could go back seven years. I mean, it's
41:39
it's amazing what has transpired in
41:41
the last seven years. Yeah,
41:43
and I don't think he could get a fair
41:45
shake in San
41:46
Francisco. And we'll
41:49
be fascinating to watch this
41:51
trial take place. I knew
41:52
But where where would the venue
41:55
move to?
41:55
It's not good. He's it's
41:58
clear that the judge
42:00
feels like he can one of the things you do with change of
42:02
venues is the judge
42:04
inevitably, with
42:06
a couple of exceptions, one of
42:09
my cases is one of them. But, inevitably, you say, we'll sort
42:11
that out during jury selection, and that's
42:13
exactly what Judge Chen
42:16
is doing. He's sorting it out in jury selection. And as long
42:18
as they think they can find twelve
42:20
jurors and however a number of
42:22
alternatives to say,
42:24
yes, I I've heard about it,
42:26
obviously, and I can be fair, and I can
42:28
set it aside. It's all they care
42:30
about. Alright. Well, this
42:32
weekend, I'll be with John Papa and Dallas
42:34
Texas doing live shows, music, all
42:36
the hits to stand up, meet and
42:38
greets. We're gonna watch some of the k
42:42
rock doc. Putting that
42:44
together. So a little sneak preview of that,
42:46
Mark. I know you're interested in that. Oh, I really
42:48
right. I'm very interested in that.
42:50
So you can't you can't find
42:52
can't find one of your ducks that I'm more interested in that. That's
42:54
gonna be at the Dallas
42:57
Sheridan. We'll be there. We'll do it on
42:59
a live show on the twenty
43:02
first. I think it's the
43:04
twenty first. Yeah. That's
43:06
a live live music show and
43:08
stand up you can get tickets to that or you can hang out
43:10
for the whole weekend. Just go to am pro dot com
43:12
for all the info. What do you got,
43:15
Mark? I was just gonna give a
43:17
little plug to since coming up. Alex and
43:19
Annie, the decadent box of
43:21
chocolates collection from Alex and Annie
43:23
for Valentine's Day. Go to
43:25
Alex and Annie. ALEXAMDANI
43:32
and plug in a chocolate
43:34
gold jewelry.
43:36
Say affordable and
43:38
you'll be a winner. You may even get lucky
43:40
on Valentine's
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