Uber Chief Brand Officer Bozoma Saint John talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher and Johana Bhuiyan about what her newly created job entails. Hired by now-ousted CEO Travis Kalanick, Saint John said the company’s culture is strong and healthy, even as it continues to wrestle with a parade of public mistakes and scandals. Uber's brand today, she says, is that of a utility, but it’s missing “love” — an emotional connection between the user and the product. She also talks about the importance of hiring more women and people of color, and why Uber’s diversity problems are not unique.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices