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In two thousand and twelve. And internet user discovered
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a mysterious entrance to. The inside of
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a highway bridge. Within the dark
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cramp spaces they discovered a disturbing
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seen but despite. Their Fears: This
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internet user returned for more clues
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as to who or what was
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residing within the structure. Today we
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dissect the many stories and photos
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left behind of the bridge. This
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is red web. Welcome.
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Back Task Force to another episode of
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Read Web the podcast All About Mysteries
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True Crime unsolved in everything in between.
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I'm You Are resident mystery enthusiast losing
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his voice as he speaks. Trevor Collins
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joining me hearing this mystery for the
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very first time potentially on the cusp
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of his own illness. Alfredo Di As
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As is very true. we have all
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been to creating echo plasm. Him or
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her are nasal cavities and is affecting
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our voices here. Right Web? So you're
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saying I'm I'm haunted but in. The
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Head. but like not more specifically,
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in your nose. my sinus cavities
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are haunted like a eighteenth century
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attic and has a mattress. Illegal.
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I got a pipe fitter let.
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Them lead pipes though. the water comes out sweet.
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Let me just say this. I got some
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nice throat coat. Helping me out
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gave freedom a nice idea of
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name throat. go gonna put that
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when on the table I think
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read web needs a a nice
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healthy drink. may maybe tea or
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coffee. With. Got me in on
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it. How no official drink after advocate
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for and you know without the throat
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gun and vulgar energy off the interviewer
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energy drinks and we have throat get
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a it's going to ominous goat mean
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on the phone. I mean I don't
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know how how much clearer and more
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enticing it could be. Does it have
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goat milk in it? Oh god is
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guys on us mostly milk. Mom,
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Mom Mom it's so good. Voters
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were like a Task force. Can't
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really complain because is that something
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that week? A We supply. You
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know at Task Force Hq it's
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free and it's flow and right
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right And most of the job
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as we get our after those
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Ben's still felt number one. Bennie
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Logan Betty Yeah, so ah, but
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with that said, this is I'm
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so happy to be returning to
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form the core Dna to this
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podcast Internet Mysteries again. Pushing
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my voice. I hope it's not going to
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be earned. An oral disturbance to everybody but
2:35
me. and this one is stagnating and it's
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in his car. Brief. It's kind of like
2:39
a nice little. Emory. But.
2:42
Spooky. Mystery that was left on
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the internet. So I'm so all about
2:46
this and that is because it was,
2:48
i think November. So. I
2:50
saw tic toc. And it was of
2:52
these people that were in a mall. And
2:55
way into the side and banned in part
2:57
of the mall. where into the a bad
2:59
part of the mall. And. Then
3:01
saw all these abandoned stores, then
3:03
crawled under like a certain my
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lord.thing. And then ended up in these. Giant.
3:09
Endless. Long concrete hallways, our well
3:12
lit. oh yeah they are all
3:14
that. And then there was all
3:16
these officers was blueprints of like
3:18
the building and then modeled that
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and in there was like a
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whole parking abandoned parking structure way
3:24
underground and so our seniors goal
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like that is wild. Also a
3:28
forever to go exploring And it
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wasn't like fourth. Ah, Scary
3:32
haunted place are encrypted. I.
3:35
Don't know how you even find places
3:37
like the Rainbow Exploit place like that
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vowed you wilde for us to do.
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It was really like the the game
3:43
the Backrooms yeah, this is the alleys.
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a band in rooms thou just are
3:47
endless and I was like whoa And
3:49
now we're doing this. So I'm all
3:52
about very urban exploring or whatever. Yes,
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I think I was taught urban exploration
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down does it's It's very us right
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I'd with a rueful rabbit. Down there
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we don't know. Who. They're the perfect
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columns of everybody up top and this
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on the living service? maybe? oh we
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don't know, but it's because his stories
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in places like that abandoned places are
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just built upon. the I had a
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lot of series exist of course to
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and peele use that for us but
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there's a whole other episode topic I
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won't say here to they wanna spoil
4:20
for You but that I gotta bring
4:22
to Christian and Gillian because there's a
4:24
a topic that has been rekindled in
4:26
my mind that is similar to that
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but more historic sense. anyway with the
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piece of. Another idea, I think let's
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talk about this bridge and before
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begin. As always, a list of
4:37
sensitive topics will be in the
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description. because this one gets Wilde
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on May Twelve Two Thousand and
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Twelve A now deleted user on
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Reddit Nobility Scooter posted on the
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sub Reddit called Let's Not Meet
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This Sub reddit revolves around true
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stories of scary personal experiences. Someone
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or those places where people go.
4:56
Oh, just suspend your disbelief. It
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is more of a i experienced
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this. Here's my story. The
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title was simply the Bridge Mobility Scooter
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Said that they were from North Wales
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and described it as a wonderful place
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to live, one that offer them a
5:11
lot of chances to explore isolated areas
5:13
such as the countryside and the coastline,
5:15
etc. You don't know Wales is a
5:17
part of Great Britain. Beautiful place. Now
5:20
a few years before their reddit post,
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the author and their friends were exploring
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the Northern Coast Line along a dual
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highway not far from the Rainbow Bridge
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a walking bridge with rainbow lights at
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night and. North of the village called
5:33
old Call when they found an overpass
5:35
train bridge that the group decided to
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try and explore via a nearby manhole.
5:39
lately based saw a square manhole cover
5:42
protruding up from the ground like as
5:44
the small cement silo patch on the
5:46
top and they're like well we think
5:48
this might be the entrance to whatever
5:51
is going on in the breeze and
5:53
thing that the manhole cover his voice
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open not open but the did they
5:57
did pry it old a private open.
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the you tools unbolted and then found
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like. Kind of like square pieces
6:04
of metal protruding from the wall. little
6:06
hand holds so you could climb down.
6:08
Got it And I'm sure there's mostly
6:10
exists for either a maintenance or be
6:12
while the bridge was being constructed. Yeah,
6:14
you could have access to the inner
6:16
workings but otherwise wouldn't Wouldn't expect to
6:18
go in there except if you're curious
6:20
in one explore weird places. Yeah so
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they crawled in and a believe this
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was the main part of the bridge
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and a semi their way through this
6:28
tight space, sometimes scratching their stomachs said
6:30
picture this ago crawl space no no
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it's. So small that you can't really
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crouch the up so you kinda have
6:36
to crawl little bit isn't and go
6:38
up. There's like cement beams going cross
6:41
every now and then. she can have
6:43
to go over those which required to
6:45
slide in your stomach, but it was
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up and down. Something between like a
6:49
crawling spot in a a very stooped
6:51
stand. Like there wasn't a lot of.
6:54
Know like that? would be willing to
6:56
get caped cave diving stuff like that.
6:58
Oh my God. Spelunking! Saw a game
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like we your head is just between.
7:03
The ceiling and floor know Mama Bear
7:05
Why? Especially when there's a puddle in
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their job now. saw video and that
7:09
recently, you know, and now. That
7:11
I've seen videos and tic toc and like people
7:13
are stuck. On on the me. just. Like
7:16
they be a blow their breath out,
7:18
a shrink their chest even there like
7:21
not not still stuck their arms way
7:23
back when behind I'm six three oh
7:25
right around Persia. I mean you know
7:27
another option but to become didn't want
7:29
that sensation I say wrestling we can
7:32
tap out. There you're like wow,
7:34
I conquered it. Like yeah, you are being
7:36
pinned down by about ten miles of rock.
7:38
would get a butcher you hall bosses put
7:40
together and and as crawl through his crawl
7:43
through mere. ah, claustrophobia, Not yeah. I mean
7:45
I'm sure there's some sort of. Adrenaline
7:47
from the other side of all that but was
7:49
yeah. Just not for me. So.
7:52
Anyway, there at the crime to these tight
7:54
spaces and I'll go and get ahead myself.
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There's a lot of photos from within from
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varying journeys into this. After. An.
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Bridge Hell guess how you some of
8:03
those task force has always are going
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to be on our social at read
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web pod. You don't need to see
8:10
them in order to enjoy this very
8:12
intriguing mystery. but it's nice to has
8:14
as you say tangible evidence of a
8:16
visit or mere like know there is
8:18
every. Bone has. A
8:21
camera in every. In. Every cameras
8:23
got a phone. Every cameras got a phone.
8:26
In those cameras are like. Forty
8:28
Eight megapixels. This sounds like so many
8:30
mega pixel scored. yeah know of so
8:32
many. so many pixels for you and
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like many rules, record everything and so
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I'm very happy to know there's a
8:38
ton of photos via so they went
8:40
down there. They're crawling around their scoots
8:42
in this Leiden and then they see
8:44
what they think is an object kind
8:46
of towards what they assumed was the
8:49
midway point this bridge. so they kind
8:51
of push on good look at the
8:53
photos. know get in there. Yeah so
8:55
as I mean I see the breads.
8:57
And than, yeah, see, kind of the top
8:59
of it outcome. I'm in. Favour
9:02
of this is also not literally I get
9:04
a city shot of like. With. A
9:06
holiday unbolted like at the cover that the
9:08
unbolted isn't and in the whole my goes
9:10
down there you crawled on in. this is
9:12
just can't see. Yeah it's like to be
9:15
eternal darkness all the way. So this is
9:17
for my as future photos who but it
9:19
it gives you a visual what's going on.
9:21
You can see on the bottom rung someone's
9:23
hand faintly and then from there risk down
9:25
there so in the dark you can't see
9:27
them. He does is so
9:29
dark and it's so it's way
9:32
down there. Yeah yeah to crawl
9:34
spaces are tie. In people
9:36
have been Americans are some tagging on the
9:38
walls. By. Up there is
9:40
pretty old abandoned. yeah. So. Once
9:42
they were in the other side of the
9:44
Brits, the group found something that made them
9:47
very uncomfortable. There. Was a single sold
9:49
out chair facing the wall like directly at
9:51
the wall on the wall with a magazine
9:53
clipping of a naked woman in an erotic
9:56
pose that appeared somewhat sinister. To. Quote:
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Nobility Scooters The woman's. These were
10:00
cut out with precision. Perhaps an inexact a
10:02
nice or box cutter to something to cut
10:05
out the i specifically know. I guess this
10:07
reminds me if you are going to go
10:09
stumbling into these photos weren't going to post
10:11
the ones that are a little bit more
10:13
erotic, but there are some nude photos within
10:16
the confines of these photo albums on it.
10:18
Yet because of what is in to the
10:20
took photos very right. So just you know,
10:22
viewer discretion is advised you're going to go
10:25
perusing some of these photos. There's also some
10:27
other. Kind. Of more gross items so
10:29
just and a warning to anybody looking at
10:31
these and one talk about Photos Task Force
10:33
as on a ton of give a heads
10:35
up to you guys, you've noticed this already
10:38
so I just want to address it. We've
10:40
had to take photos out of the video
10:42
version of the podcast which always appreciated having
10:44
because it just kind of because it right
10:46
to you. That was one of these values
10:48
of having to the new version. Book
10:51
candidly. We've had to take those away
10:53
because of legal issues. We don't want to offer
10:55
any sort of actors for anybody to sue us
10:58
for using their imagery or what have you. There's
11:00
a lot of conversations that we're having a behind
11:02
the scenes in order to figure out what options
11:04
we do have because this does honestly tennis constrain
11:06
as a little bit. But. You know
11:09
when you work with a lot of other
11:11
amazing content creators in a bid companies it
11:13
just creates opportunities for people to kind of
11:15
come after. Yeah and so why We see
11:17
a bunch of our players able to do
11:19
like so images and react to things we
11:21
want to make sure that work to pluto,
11:23
share and like, get approval and all these
11:25
things. And and it becomes difficult when posts
11:27
are many years old or come from a
11:29
thousand different people and sources or in this
11:31
case when the Reddit user has their account
11:33
deleted. So again as always if you wanna
11:35
check out some of these photos had to
11:37
our social at read. Web Pod and Begin
11:39
and those out there or link them,
11:41
but otherwise and for the time being
11:43
he won't see as many visual assets
11:46
in the video podcast. Sorry. About
11:48
that. Now. Is the continue to
11:50
look around this chair They see these
11:52
photos. They saw a condom that appear
11:54
to be covered in blood Almost immediately.
11:56
they turned back around and crawled out
11:58
as quickly as possible. mobility Scooter Road
12:00
They This was incredibly strange due to
12:02
the fact that these towns in Wales
12:05
are all pretty tight knit, very small
12:07
that everybody in these towns kind of
12:09
knew one another, to the point where
12:11
there was a homeless person living in
12:13
the town just one person's and when
12:15
they passed away, the entire town came
12:17
to their funeral. All so it would
12:19
be kind of wild for somebody go
12:21
missing without the entire town kind of
12:23
catching wind of it or for someone
12:26
to have peculiar habits or odd living
12:28
quarters. It was just kind of known.
12:30
That everyone knew everyone's business, right?
12:33
But. I mean maybe that's why this
12:35
person has a masterpiece involved. It's possible
12:37
you know I will keep that Some
12:39
towns have gone to great lengths to
12:41
be idea. if this is where I
12:43
do my business I will say it's
12:46
it's it's weird on a different level.
12:48
Do you down there may be see
12:50
blood? or maybe there was a crime
12:52
or something like that. But. To
12:54
see something like. So.
12:57
Sexual. Well
13:00
with like oh weird sinister
13:02
twist to it. On
13:04
the six, how do you proceed? I mean like. A
13:07
We're going Goes honey. We saw that. Are
13:09
even know how to react. What I say, what
13:11
to do is just so. Off.
13:14
Of like the map of what your
13:16
mind is all area and what like
13:18
you're expecting to see? Yeah yeah it's
13:20
as a weird thing to see and
13:22
as an ominous place. Yeah hundred percent.
13:25
Now. Of course, this post as I
13:27
mentioned earlier was years after they went
13:29
into this bridge. So they're looking back.
13:32
Nobility scooter with hindsight know, thinking for
13:34
the scene was so disturbing I probably
13:36
should have contacted police, but of course
13:38
it didn't. They also felt that
13:40
they were potentially brave enough at the prime
13:43
of the posting to potentially revisit this site.
13:45
Most the comments on a thread were begging
13:47
for an update. Some even describe their own
13:50
adventures while in Wales, but basically saying please
13:52
go back if you're If you're brave enough,
13:54
let's see it by like people actually want.
13:57
To. The Way for other people and other experiences
13:59
and. Centers across Wales. I don't know they
14:01
were so different. the basically like a while
14:03
we're talking about Wales. I also sell something
14:05
strange I guess just just the nature of
14:07
that. their sub reddit. so. Now
14:09
we flash forward to two days later,
14:12
two days after the post, which again
14:14
was years after the initial. Bridge.
14:16
Last Resort A While this was on
14:19
May fourteenth, Mobility Scooter edited their original
14:21
post to include an image or album
14:23
of the bridge. After going back with
14:25
a new group of friends that's only
14:27
you can have perusing just there now,
14:29
I encourage you to kind of scroll
14:31
through all of them because we're about
14:33
to describe this revisit of the site.
14:35
This new group, though I should say,
14:38
was unfamiliar with a suitcase and they
14:40
were unfamiliar with Mobility Scooters goals. They
14:42
didn't realize the full extent of this
14:44
project. so you're mostly going to see.
14:46
Photos taken from the entrance and
14:48
less so photos taken deeper within.
14:51
Got it? Yeah, I'm just just
14:53
click scrolls. It's looks like. The.
14:55
Entrance and then also a bunch
14:57
of just like random crash at
14:59
the phone. yeah. Fermium. Sir
15:02
I people go to me. Like said, there's
15:04
tag on the walls of people Pie went
15:06
down there hang out, drained tag in and
15:08
me. Both. Go back yet?
15:10
mean aliso a back and force it seems
15:12
like it. I mean sega bunch of people.
15:15
Have. No. An. Antidote.
15:18
To really creepy voters here, I mean it
15:20
would seems odd to me and I'll bring
15:22
this around and in the series. But it
15:24
starts out sepia tone, then it goes to
15:26
a really high contrast black and white. Then
15:28
it goes to earn a normal like. Color.
15:30
Photo looking down the like
15:33
square manhole. But. Then after
15:35
that you see like a photo and pitch black
15:37
with a sliver of light and then that same
15:39
sliver of lights with a flash basically showing how
15:41
dark it has been here. since
15:43
his thing to see. So.
15:45
Many different. Reviews.
15:47
Looks not only. Do.
15:50
We have hi Rez photos
15:52
but they bring us other
15:54
stylize the ass a visitor.
15:56
Know what? do we ever
15:58
get? This. It just
16:01
feels weird like this is twenty
16:03
twelve. So yeah, everyone's kind of
16:05
got smartphones at this point. Photos
16:07
aren't great. But. Photo taken
16:09
photos is way more accessible. So.
16:11
It's either that a yeah, they they put
16:13
a filter on each of these for some
16:15
reason or be. They had
16:17
three different cameras and kind of kept
16:20
swapping between them. In another employee torah
16:22
you still have white light. Coming
16:24
can in. Seven. Days
16:26
or popular. Yeah, you know, so people rock
16:29
and knows he could be someone that's literally
16:31
all about photography to be. Yeah yeah. now
16:33
looking at this first photo, you can kind
16:35
of see from the outside what I'm talking
16:37
about. For those listening, I'll describe it, but
16:40
he basically see the side of a bridge.
16:42
very standard overpass looking braid. You might see
16:44
this driving under a bridge on the highway.
16:47
Now at one of the supports, one
16:49
of the concrete beams that stands up
16:51
to support it. There's kind of a
16:53
a depression where the bottom of the
16:55
bridge comes down and a slight triangular
16:57
pattern. This. Is the cavity in
16:59
which that folded shares sitting. She. Kind
17:02
of see lawyer though it is.
17:05
As if yeah, okay and ah,
17:07
they called in on one of
17:09
the sides. And. Then shuffle their
17:11
way through the the sin underbelly of
17:13
the bridge. And then, yeah, that depression.
17:15
That's where someone kind of. Put.
17:18
Up this. Little. Makeshift home or
17:20
something. Where. You Jan's you're
17:22
all cars pass above you. Or.
17:24
The trains. Or yeah, because cars nearby. There's
17:26
a road nearby or her. But train bridge
17:29
is what we're in. Now. It's
17:31
worth mentioning we did look on google maps
17:33
to try to find this bridge and trying
17:35
to find the entrance and it was. There
17:37
was no imaginable way in, so it's hard
17:40
to notice of the inaccurate location that another
17:42
thing own a flag for my own personal
17:44
theory at the very end. but. As
17:46
you saw, the man who was more
17:48
is more the man square as Julien
17:51
said for yeah it's kind of a
17:53
steel hats that list or rather than
17:55
it again. Iron. Around.
17:57
Manhole, Plug. It. Would you know?
18:00
To Disney? think what? like Ninja Turtles
18:02
am in? Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. So
18:04
deadly. Feels very industrial. And it
18:06
was so dark. Nobility. Scooter describe it
18:08
as quote. you can see your hand for
18:10
your face. A letter again. Very
18:13
small kind of metal. horseshoe style
18:15
pieces of metal in the walls.
18:17
Yep. very precarious. Crawl down and
18:19
up. but. The passageway spicer
18:21
say a very dark I think we covered
18:23
that pretty nicely. but. They. Do open
18:25
up creepily in in these photos you
18:27
can see into the void within the
18:29
bridge. Now. No one would go
18:32
with nobility scooter into those spaces. So eventually
18:34
nobody scooter found a different group willing to
18:36
accompany them on their journey back to the
18:38
other side of the bridge to actually go
18:41
deeper into the bridge. I say group, but
18:43
I believe Christian. it was just an individual.
18:46
And we don't know. Okay for sure.
18:48
Okay because the I'd says group but.
18:50
Based. On comments from the threads on
18:52
when I may have just been one
18:55
person the our not really sure they
18:57
kind of refer to one person in
18:59
particular, but it could have been a
19:01
group. okay mouth soviets my friends favourite.
19:03
I'm not gonna write a my going
19:05
Back to Go Deeper Nine have signed
19:07
assignment. I think I'm no yes Okay,
19:09
that's good vs evil facilities yet? So.
19:13
Fifteen. Days now since the original
19:15
post it's May Twenty Seventh. Two Thousand
19:17
Twelve Mobility Scooter posted in a. New
19:19
thread on let's Not meet Called
19:22
the Bridge free. Visited the night
19:24
before on May Twenty six know.
19:26
Billie Scooter and his single friend
19:28
visited the bridge. They described it
19:30
as quote uninhabitable, noting the smell.
19:33
The. High amount of dust and the vulnerable
19:35
feeling navigating the cramped tunnel, you're basically expose
19:37
yourself to anybody hiding in there as you
19:40
were trying to get back there. I tons
19:42
of Heidi holes and tons of other like
19:44
nefarious corners that would just give you the
19:46
the heebie jeebies. So. That's
19:49
where the second photo album comes into play.
19:51
Or to take a peek a that, but you're
19:53
going to see kind of what I'm about to
19:56
describes avoid scroll through those as I'd describe some
19:58
of their photos. Air. What
20:01
a random stuff when you use
20:03
canned a broken locker get a
20:05
second woman had lock. Some.
20:07
Rope. He. Ever done lie
20:09
trash. There was a lot of
20:11
alarm and suprise stuff. But.
20:14
Ah, a bag with the lows
20:17
of human feces. Yeah, Yeah.
20:19
I'm in a book bag I guess know poop
20:21
bag say it was like someone living down here.
20:23
Yeah and it's worth noting that what you're not.
20:26
the smell was commented on. He
20:28
didn't or couldn't recall that from the first
20:30
time. A few these items or news as
20:32
a last were there for. Someone's been coming
20:34
here. Yeah, So and they also
20:36
found some fresh in a makeshift bad or
20:38
enough stuff like that. Oh yeah, now again,
20:40
it was so dark that they could not
20:42
see the other end of the tunnel, and
20:44
they were uncertain at this point if somebody
20:47
was actively in their to again. they hadn't
20:49
noted this smell previously. And luckily
20:51
as they went through, there was nobody
20:53
waiting for them on the other side,
20:55
but it was incredibly dangerous. That said,
20:57
they immediately saw a nice that wasn't
20:59
there during Mobility scooters. First visit to
21:01
the site. He really. There. Was
21:04
also some crime scene tape left
21:06
behind in their. Favor. Photo
21:08
both of those. In. Addition to that, they
21:10
had some other images. There was a poster of
21:12
a woman with her pelvis burned by a cigarette.
21:14
Other posters on the ground: one from the Your
21:16
Ninety Ninety Seven, one for the band Catatonia. There.
21:19
Was a brush, some scissors, the same chair
21:21
that he saw the very first visit, and
21:23
a red blanket. They noticed too
21:25
that the condom seen on their initial trip
21:27
was missing from the site. Weekly.
21:29
Know. So. Something changing this.
21:32
this feels like it's an act
21:34
of space now. Yeah, someone's coming
21:36
here and know would collect loosely
21:38
living in it. And being
21:40
there. I. Feel it gets
21:42
either summer without a home or
21:45
maybe to go to spot for
21:47
someone that doesn't have like a
21:50
safe household. Very dangerous
21:52
ago in a place like this though. Yeah,
21:54
is your immuno dealing with and we talk
21:56
a lot of l A Crypt is him.
21:59
And. Blake. Spectral entities?
22:01
What not? Little like real people type
22:03
stuff right when you're dealing with. Humans.
22:07
And like. In a place
22:09
where. Normally a human when go.
22:11
To. The Law of unpredictability to the what to
22:14
do with. This. Feels like someone
22:16
secret. Yeah, and you don't really
22:18
want to play around with. Someone's.
22:20
Secret. right? True, especially
22:23
given the nature of this
22:25
particular place. And eat
22:27
it. It provides a very. Obvious
22:30
ominous ambience. Sort of animal that necessary
22:32
implies this person is nefarious or sinister
22:34
and some sort of way. but I
22:36
can't help but feel that way. I
22:38
wouldn't go treading lightly. Just a weird
22:40
place to meet someone you know same
22:42
yeah and I at like. If.
22:44
You're the person. That normally
22:47
goes there. right? For.
22:49
The person that is going there. Either.
22:52
Way when those two sides and meat
22:54
is instantly pension. Oh yeah, When.
22:57
I run, order off the job. What are you
22:59
doing here? What are you do? What are you
23:01
doing here? Yeah and so yeah on top of
23:03
that to in this wasn't mentioned in the the
23:06
first visit, wasn't mentioned in the kind of like
23:08
second visit where they just wind of the entrance
23:10
but as you can see in some of the
23:12
flash photos it is very dusty. yeah commented on
23:15
that like it was hard to take flash photography
23:17
because it will be so dusty that all the
23:19
dust would light up here which is a good
23:21
opportunity for it appears say here in the winter
23:23
if it's snowing don't put your rights on not
23:26
gonna help you. See it's gonna make it way
23:28
worse. oh i never like live in.with the snow
23:30
since his lights up all the snow make so
23:32
much harder to seeking a makes so much more
23:34
sense Yeah. Anna blinds people drive
23:36
in as she's just so. me city
23:38
drivers love their brights and he was.
23:41
So you just don't turn your lights
23:43
on or less what? those like lower
23:45
lighter flowers are lights. yeah fog lights
23:47
to eliminate the road runner normal lights
23:49
I mean you gotta see but anyway
23:51
just little micro psn. But talking about
23:53
the dust though the to going into
23:55
this place at least Mobility Scooter said.
23:58
It would be a hazard to be
24:00
the never very long without a mask.
24:02
That's just how does he was. It
24:04
was like snowing within. This. Bridge
24:06
it was. It was very strange. Now again.
24:08
For. The sake my own personal theory want
24:11
to fly one item? some of not all
24:13
of them. But the initial burst of dusty
24:15
photos, all the dust is falling directly down.
24:18
And. So to me it's almost like the dust
24:20
as being disturbed off the ceiling. Or.
24:22
In some way being manually introduced into
24:24
the scene so that way as a
24:27
cascades down. It's not drifting and
24:29
circular patterns and everywhere this we're not.
24:31
Yeah, there are. Each of them has
24:33
like a pretty. Like. A motion
24:35
blur like vertically down his own the same
24:37
direction as if it's falling and falling fast.
24:39
Is that? or it's a long exposure and
24:42
the dust is all drifting one direction. Either
24:44
way, It was something. Almost
24:46
manufactured about that that I just wanted to
24:48
flag as we're kind of. Noodling on
24:51
what's going on in here. I don't know how
24:53
are kind of come back to this with my
24:55
own take my own theory or thing to do.
24:57
You like you said is like a train overpass
24:59
right now. So. Like there's a
25:02
bunch of cars going over a consular
25:04
just rattling the bridge for in writing.
25:06
Dust down. Yeah, But. Then again, there
25:08
are some photos later on. The. Dust
25:10
is dusting com and had the
25:12
camera it is swirling it's don't
25:14
side was going at all different
25:16
directions. But. In more
25:18
photos, the not, the dust is all
25:21
going the same direction. Yeah, so anyway,
25:23
I'm just gonna slide that. So their
25:25
friend tagged their username. Nobility
25:27
scooter on the wall in two thousand and twelve
25:30
as the year on the wall as well. And
25:32
then they left as quickly as they could. They
25:34
can't stand this. Does their their creeped out Whatever.
25:36
Let's get outta here. There's a nice last not
25:38
combat. In. Total know. Billie Scooter and
25:41
their friend were in the tunnel for about an
25:43
hour To an hour and a half. Oh My.
25:45
God. Yeah. And. In the comments, they said
25:47
they believed whoever else visited the bridge must
25:49
be a local, but given the years in
25:51
one of the magazines, it could have been
25:53
over a decade before that they visited. So.
25:56
We don't really have a time when I'm trying to isolate one
25:58
in and will kind of circle round of that's. No. The
26:01
early money was no stuff that came
26:03
into play since the first time he
26:05
visited. Yeah, But. This group vowed
26:07
to never return to the bridge
26:09
again. Ten. Years
26:12
later, And. Twenty Twenty Two. Another.
26:15
Reddit or decided to venture into this
26:17
bridge. On. December twenty fifth of
26:19
all days Reddit user Psychological Road Six
26:21
Fifty shared in a different sub Reddit.
26:23
The creepy story subverted that the bridge
26:25
was real and that they had been
26:28
there. They. Said they to lived in
26:30
North Wales, in a small town of Conwy
26:32
about seventy eight miles west of the bridge.
26:35
They. Claim that the bridge was like a legend
26:37
in their tone. They. Said that they
26:39
sound the story had made it's way
26:41
to a creepy Reddit iceberg have some forms
26:43
and were surprised that anyone outside their
26:45
small town was aware of it. and iceberg
26:47
we don't on. Go on case files
26:49
before. basically it's a deep dives on a
26:52
certain topics were above on the top
26:54
of the iceberg as the commonly known stuff
26:56
and deeper you don't have the water.
26:58
the more. Ambiguous. The
27:00
more ominous that the lesser known. So.
27:03
Somebody had put this story on Reddit Iceberg. That's
27:05
how they so now. Now interestingly.
27:08
They too had visited the bridge years
27:10
before their post. They said that two
27:12
years prior to posting they had visited
27:14
the bridge and they wrote that the
27:16
dust was like quote a snowstorm and
27:18
described the tunnel as similar to the
27:20
one that in the movie Barbarian. Oh
27:23
I've memory is like a house in
27:25
Detroit. kind of an abandoned neighborhood. The.
27:28
Living in this Air B or other stay
27:30
up as Air B and beer and door
27:32
start losing and and get sound as an
27:34
ominous tune. So. Picture that
27:36
tunnel. Yeah, does one of their have
27:39
one Very terrified to a movie. Did
27:41
a great job of giving a trailer
27:43
that didn't give it away. Where yellow
27:46
lot of movies give it away, they'll
27:48
rise. Above. Sea.
27:50
Is your boss you go and
27:52
you are okay so weird of.
27:55
Type of movie? Any guides? Not
27:57
that's more than that. It's only
27:59
announce. By the time you get
28:01
through. The teasing of the trailer
28:03
you're like it's been only ten minutes. yeah
28:06
we are whole movie ahead yeah is so
28:08
different. Yeah you've really got to the trailer.
28:10
The move within like ten minutes ago with
28:12
the hello says so good. So.
28:14
Yeah, they they said basically everything was
28:16
exactly as described by Nobility Scooter in
28:18
fact. Ah, my favorite part of our
28:20
about this miss were years like fact
28:22
checking in every the lecture. you've got
28:24
it all. Yeah, and I'll top of
28:26
that. they posted within their story a
28:28
video of them going there. Oh
28:31
so there is a video yet every
28:33
the yeah of them centers. Poking.
28:35
Around seems seems I'm the same
28:37
things. They. Have a video of
28:39
the tag soon. Ability Score! Two thousand Twelve
28:41
was tagged on the wall. Soul True. Ball
28:44
you pull up that video. This. Group
28:46
also said that they left quickly, but Psychological
28:49
Road Six Fifty said that they would go
28:51
back if they could find someone else to
28:53
go with them. So they went alone. C'mon.
28:56
Man all the way that dinner. Yeah.
28:59
I mean. There's a vertical
29:01
video. them are just climbing up and out.
29:04
There at wow it is like a
29:06
damn dust storm. Yeah, But
29:08
so does the in their. Minimum.
29:10
Of serves like. It's like a
29:13
wind tunnel century and I'm saying yeah
29:15
while others the chair. Taught
29:17
at all. And it's it's. all there's
29:19
there's. Oh is so
29:22
cool having. Higher as
29:24
photos and videos like. Day.
29:27
Or I have this feature Mysteries Rise Rise,
29:29
Eight Legs, we crowdsources, start Over your it
29:32
is but also don't go to these places.
29:34
Yeah I on alone especially on to that.
29:36
So they also posted with in a debt
29:38
left a comment of their story and as
29:41
you can go read all the details of
29:43
he wants. But I'll. Jump to some
29:45
of the highlights. They advised not going. Certainly.
29:47
Not alone, but basically saying don't go
29:50
into the tunnel when they had their
29:52
their torchlight on for a flashlight. It
29:54
basically illuminated nothing. There's a photo or
29:57
or a piece of video where they
29:59
show with. Flashlight being on looks like
30:01
and what a flash photo looking at
30:03
that flashlight looks like. They. Said
30:05
everything was there. Everything from the.
30:08
Erotic imagery to the chair they
30:10
said they saw. A. Surgical
30:12
blades last nice. On.
30:14
The magazine pages that it had
30:17
some small browns watches on it.
30:19
Something that was once a liquid. It sounds
30:21
very much like dried blood. Yeah, unfortunately in
30:23
this is what I want to fly does
30:26
a couple details within this paragraph. One.
30:29
As always with these mysteries, it's like
30:31
a mean now. He lost half
30:33
their footage. Oh they also said we
30:35
were scared so. I. Misspoke.
30:38
They. Might have had some meals with them but
30:40
basically they wanted to get a cute photo
30:42
of them in the chair they say of
30:44
course course I wanted that for some real
30:46
I would not sit in that chair. Bomb!
30:48
But they said they lost half their camera
30:50
when they switched i phones and they were
30:52
very upset. And. I use house and
30:54
not all. Are No is just an
30:56
income grew the that when a flag urges
30:59
through. Another. Detail. For.
31:01
The consideration of the Midnight Society here they
31:03
said I live in North Wales and a
31:06
place called Conway The Bridges located in a
31:08
place called Ten Long Ten T A das
31:10
L A N About fifteen minute drive away
31:12
and I've been there. Okay so I google
31:15
maps this whole situation. Oh how you the
31:17
only place that I can find in the
31:19
Uk and it is and Wales called. Ten.
31:22
On Ogre for ten million, I'm not sure how
31:24
to pronounce it. Was. An hour drive
31:26
away and south of Con, we owe
31:28
the other location that we were talking
31:30
about prior based on descriptions and everything.
31:33
Put. Con: We about seventy eight
31:35
miles west. Of the bridge.
31:38
Or so when you can draw
31:40
a map of these three locations
31:42
run and with like a very
31:44
narrow very tall backwards seven. And
31:46
so I don't know. It's another thing I want to
31:49
fly for my own personal theory was I'm sure he
31:51
can sort of suss out by now, But like was
31:53
a few inconsistency throughout these stories that I'm trying to
31:55
pluck on. But.
31:57
Suffice to say though, this is some. Very
32:00
compelling footage of the tag. Somebody
32:02
went down there. they saw it
32:04
all. Their the biggest note. Is.
32:06
That they did not smell the smell
32:08
that was described earlier. Which makes
32:10
sense because human season six about a year
32:12
to biodegrade. And a there's a
32:15
whole years on like that. Some. Like that
32:17
wants to get to a point word site he
32:19
doesn't read right? Yeah so that kind of helps
32:21
us where it'll Finals I buy year. Or.
32:23
That's I mean it takes a year to
32:25
biodegrade. I don't know how long it took
32:27
out there melling. I'm Xavier bout at Raider
32:29
at most a year there and so from
32:31
that we can start to figure out. Okay,
32:33
lend somebody must have been fumbling around and
32:36
that bridge. During. Nobility.
32:38
Scooters time right near. There's no smell
32:40
in their first visit. They come back
32:42
a few years later. no smell in
32:45
the second visit. Third visit with a
32:47
single friend. Now. There's a smell.
32:50
You know, Some something's active
32:52
during this time window and then once
32:54
ten years later and booths here. And
32:56
anyway as as some to think about
32:59
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37:51
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38:01
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38:03
to talk about, but. I mean a
38:06
few pieces of evidence here. you know
38:08
you have the makeshift bed the of
38:10
the restroom with like there was a
38:12
bucket and bag full of Ccs. there
38:14
was some paper. That. Were covered in
38:16
it so you can imagine a makes it's restroom
38:18
their. Sort implies someone might have been
38:20
staying there whether a short period of time or
38:23
long period of time is is part of mystery.
38:25
Your booty scooter believed that someone would have
38:27
noticed even a homeless person doing missing. In
38:30
because these two is tight universe I know. But considering
38:32
the sue the bridge in the tunnel, they may not
38:35
have stayed there for long and so maybe we know
38:37
their neighbors would have known about it. You know it's
38:39
hard to say. The So: maybe
38:41
it's not the mean I wouldn't be a
38:43
homeless person. Oh for totals
38:45
for some more because he talked about
38:47
house the towel so small and the
38:49
arrow on knew there was one person
38:51
without a shelter sir. So then I
38:54
read there was only wire and yes
38:56
I'm legacy of people addressed see a
38:58
small towns here yet he deftly of
39:00
people interests yes maybe less tight knit
39:02
towns in the area Us maybe someone
39:04
hitching a ride on the train and
39:06
hop sauce you know, lights, hits, hits
39:08
is a lot of vectors here for
39:10
the possibilities of someone. Lagging.
39:12
Residents needing to. Find.
39:15
Some such a unique place ago though.
39:17
know what stands out to me Now
39:19
it is very unique place to go
39:21
in and definitely less than ideal given
39:24
it's kind of like none of the
39:26
middle of nowhere but is not close
39:28
to stuff has also unhealthy and pitch
39:30
dark. I do wanna say though when
39:32
mobility scooter Christian got in there they
39:35
busted open the bolts was displeased, locked.
39:37
Did. somebody that was enrollees have the
39:40
because. There. Was a padlock down?
39:42
was? oh yeah, I was bolted from
39:44
the outside. That's my understanding from reading
39:46
the story that a very good question.
39:48
I don't know because I bet the
39:51
story they don't. i
39:53
don't think they said anything specifically about
39:55
breaking a lot the used tools to
39:58
open the manhole cocaine silly They had
40:00
something to break bolts, but that doesn't mean they
40:02
did break bolts. If they did, I don't think
40:04
they said that they did. I think the only
40:06
thing that they mentioned actually doing was using tools
40:09
to open the manhole cover. Gotcha.
40:11
I mean, that would make sense. And then that
40:13
brings us back to the lock that you saw, Fredo,
40:15
in one of the photos that was within the bridge.
40:17
Maybe that is what was locking the bridge and that
40:19
somebody else had had officially broken
40:22
their way in. Yeah. And
40:24
that otherwise due to age, rust or other reasons,
40:26
this thing was kind of wedged. All
40:29
right. So we convened off air. Christian's
40:33
going to take a look into the bolt situation because I
40:36
might just grab that from my own theory here
40:38
coming up a little. I'm scooping up, you know,
40:40
ingredients for my recipe. Anyway, that's
40:42
just something we noticed. But to continue on
40:44
a little bit here, you know, obviously someone
40:46
was residing in some way for some period
40:48
of time. Does it mean that it
40:50
falls into this theory? Perhaps there's another theory
40:53
that could use this as well. But
40:55
the only real wrinkle is that there did
40:57
not appear to be a long term stay in
40:59
this bridge, perhaps because of the health
41:01
risks from the dust. But nobility
41:04
scooter felt that there were
41:06
plenty of other locations to take shelter in
41:08
this area. And I think that's kind of
41:10
the only thing that we can really lean
41:12
on here is this person went
41:14
to this bridge, obviously tagged it. And if they're
41:16
familiar with the area, they would be in the
41:18
know as to was it the
41:20
only place like somebody was desperate or were
41:22
there other options that somebody could find safe
41:24
shelter in? Yeah, the living conditions
41:27
doesn't seem great. So that's the that's the
41:29
other thing, right? And that kind
41:31
of lends itself to like, you don't see
41:33
a mass amount of like food
41:36
or water or like a major
41:38
setup, essentially, this seems like just
41:40
like it's set up for like,
41:42
that's the span of like a night. Yeah,
41:45
you know, little creepy hangout. Yeah. For
41:48
a lot of ways. Not necessarily like I'm here for
41:50
like a month. This is where I'm living. Yeah, which
41:53
now leads us to a pretty common theory
41:55
in that the bridge was the location
41:57
of a crime given the blood knife
42:00
located in the open space of the
42:02
tunnel, it's possible that crime may have
42:04
taken place here or nearby here and
42:06
that someone fled here to hide or
42:08
get away or whatever
42:10
have you. Yeah. Nobility Scooter pointed out that
42:12
the manhole to enter the bridge was pretty
42:14
out of the way an average
42:16
person would have had to try to find
42:19
it. You couldn't just stumble into this. Yeah.
42:21
So someone needed to look for it. That
42:23
said, Nobility Scooter found it, but maybe they're
42:25
just kind of like, you know, obviously like
42:27
an explorer. Yeah, but it does it does
42:29
kind of like pull away from the whole like
42:31
maybe like drifters use this area, right? Because
42:34
it's so random, maybe a
42:36
little bit secluded. Yeah,
42:38
it's a temporary safe house. Yeah,
42:40
it seems like people are visiting
42:42
this not frequently. Yeah. What's
42:45
so weird is that the timeline that
42:48
we have so far, Nobility Scooter found this place.
42:50
All this stuff is in is already there. The
42:52
chair, the images, this, that, the other. They
42:54
come back supposedly years later
42:57
after making this Reddit post, they go two days
42:59
later. And then the scene is the
43:02
same except for now
43:04
a condom is missing. Excuse me. That happens
43:07
on the second visit, but either way they
43:09
go there. Let's just jump to the
43:11
second revisit because that's where things change. Okay. So
43:13
a couple of years and 15 days later, the
43:16
scene is different. Smells different. A condom went
43:19
missing. A knife is now added. And
43:21
so it feels like if
43:24
this was a crime situation, why
43:26
would somebody come back to this spot if
43:28
it was that temporary? Like, I don't know,
43:30
just a, just a wrinkle. I'm thinking of
43:32
blood for crying though. Yeah. And
43:34
then I don't know. Like it's just weird
43:36
that this person was there while this location
43:38
was still evolving slightly, but then the scene
43:41
stopped developing sometime after that. So
43:44
I don't know. Maybe it's just serendipitous timing.
43:46
Either way, coming back to the theory, if
43:48
someone were to commit a crime, they might
43:50
be desperate enough to hide in this location
43:53
or nobility scooters theory was that a criminal was
43:55
using this bridge as a place to hide out
43:57
temporarily or maybe store in the. Various.
44:01
Items who knows, smuggling name is
44:03
a really miss both. They got
44:05
lucky with timing. Yeah, yeah right.
44:07
Right your your their wallets act is that
44:09
you missed the prime. I could endanger you.
44:11
Go down there you see like ten. Kids.
44:14
She was a kilos on the how
44:16
To Kids measured by Ray Lows of
44:19
bricks of cocaine. You're like oh, this
44:21
palette setting. Yeah yeah yeahs, collar jobs
44:23
that so much. Now.
44:26
Coming back to the Nobility scooters to take
44:28
on this pretty good as the are. They
44:30
thought that the nice placement seemed purposeful that
44:32
it was in a place to be quickly
44:34
grabbed. For. Somebody who was like in there
44:37
and then if somebody were to come in looking for
44:39
them they can really grabbed a knife and hide. And.
44:41
They would be in a spot that be tucked away and
44:44
source to me where to go deeper they could ah
44:46
attack. There's a lot of assumptions
44:48
within that. But it's something that
44:50
to think about now. What? Is interesting
44:52
is is while researching this Chilean went on
44:54
a deep dive. And while trying
44:56
to find a possible crime to attach
44:58
this theory to. During. The time
45:01
period of two thousand nine to two thousand and thirteen.
45:03
She. Came across an organized crime group
45:05
in Wales called the Outlaws. Members.
45:08
Of this motorcycle gang were caught dealing
45:10
cocaine and two thousand nine ball palette
45:12
loads. Oh My. God. Cocaine. There it
45:14
is. Just you predicted it. I'm telling
45:16
us that. The. Hate this. Specifically, they
45:18
were dealing in two thousand and Nine
45:21
in the Colwyn Bay. And old
45:23
calm and area. so they were in
45:25
this location. So it's not. A.
45:27
Far fetched idea to think that this
45:29
was either a temporary storing spot for
45:31
their goods. yeah or that someone was
45:33
like listen on the wait till midnight
45:35
See know when you hear these like
45:37
crimes set stories their like. by
45:40
the old willow tree else don't know
45:42
if the as a first knocking around.
45:45
And. Says daylight. You know it is. Someone's gotta
45:47
be hidden somewhere to make that happen. Maybe
45:50
this is the my whole as true. I.
45:52
Mean guess own criminals are looking
45:54
for very like. Secluded.
45:56
Area isn't that for a secluded
45:58
and sure, maybe. When the. Lower
46:01
level thirds go into right us the
46:03
area like this. wait out with studio
46:05
for our drop off or something new
46:08
and despite how dark dislocation is one
46:10
of the photos from the second photo
46:12
albums actually shows and it was their
46:14
last photo on the way out. never
46:16
return they they there is a slit
46:19
where they could see outs and they
46:21
could yeah he the highway they could
46:23
see kind of the Bt area and
46:25
so it's possible that this was in
46:27
fact a little hideout just specifically in
46:30
and someone in a hideout. You know
46:32
might need to spend their time in a
46:34
way to be when something. From.
46:36
When. Or be going to the toilet or the other thing.
46:39
Anyway, that's that's the crimes theory.
46:41
It's. Interesting it's and tells me. Doing
46:44
it. But. It doesn't see. Her.
46:47
Now. Of course, there are were plugin
46:49
on some common threads and I think both
46:51
of these theories are totally viable. There.
46:53
Is a very simple alternatives that
46:55
plugs on this very same threads.
46:58
Gillian. Was or coy about this one and
47:00
is that? You know another theory that
47:02
the person that went under the bridge to set
47:04
some peculiar interests. That. They might have been
47:07
an odd individual and that they felt this was
47:09
the only place that they could practice whenever these
47:11
interests were privately. Fetish. Stuff?
47:13
Yeah, yeah, you know,
47:15
I mean. Is
47:18
this no way to assume someone's living
47:20
situation? That could be own family sharing
47:22
a room or one nine inches. As
47:25
I'm very particular case, For.
47:28
Yeah, you'd see that to the only thing and
47:30
I am. I in my teens do This is.
47:33
There a zero sum heavy sexual stuff
47:35
here church. And some very.
47:37
Sequel. Stuff to. Yeah.
47:40
But. That leads me now. To. My
47:43
scattered but. I don't
47:45
know. Theory. Of my own. Which is
47:47
that. Perhaps. This was a
47:49
very low level. A. rg
47:51
or just someone telling a compelling
47:53
story using a relocation oh that
47:56
out that there are contrived elements
47:58
potentially with the dust and
48:00
with the scene developing and then
48:02
suddenly not developing, I
48:04
think finding a chair in a dark corner
48:06
is always intriguing enough for a story. And
48:09
so one could easily place a scene there,
48:11
make a scene viable in this
48:13
location, and then it becomes real,
48:15
and then you tag it, and the story kind
48:17
of unfolds beyond that. And again, I
48:19
can't remember them all now, so that's why I kind
48:22
of flagged them along the way. But there's a few
48:24
things that make me think that it's possible that,
48:26
yes, it's a real location, but it was seasoned
48:29
a little bit, that maybe zested up to
48:32
make more of a compelling story, whether the
48:34
chair was there alone or whether the scene was
48:36
purely a void and a bridge that became a
48:39
scene. I don't know, but I don't think that
48:41
that takes away from the creepy factor of it.
48:43
Christian, I actually want to jump to you for
48:45
a second as somebody who lived
48:47
this story real time. If you want
48:49
to like kind of, again, I don't know if that deflates the story at all,
48:52
but I think it's you speaking to being
48:54
in the moment as the story unfolded, will
48:57
kind of share to the value even of
48:59
a contrived story. Yeah, I was
49:01
telling Trevor and Alfredo before we started, but
49:03
I remember when this was first posted back
49:05
then, and I followed the updates live. And
49:09
I remember when they were describing the
49:12
scene and what was there and
49:14
what not. It did sound very
49:16
manufactured. It was very hard to believe.
49:18
And then what really sealed it was when they followed up
49:20
with the photos. And that's where I
49:22
was like, oh, there's something here. But
49:25
to your point, it very
49:27
well still could be contrived. And they
49:29
just made the photos to help sell
49:31
the story. But yeah, I remember
49:33
at the time, and even if you go back and
49:35
look at the comments, so many people are like, oh,
49:37
this is so this is wild. What are the like, you have to
49:39
tell us more. Give us updates.
49:41
Give us updates. And so that's very likely.
49:45
At the time, it was a lot of this
49:47
is very hard to believe. And
49:49
then the photos were like, oh, oh, yeah.
49:54
Yeah, it's very interesting. And There's
49:56
something just to the idea of
49:58
urban exploration anyway.. Your mind
50:00
goes in some a different directions because. Much
50:02
like we think internet mysteries are
50:05
the kind of new genre, new
50:07
frontier of unsolved mysteries, I think
50:09
urban exploration is a totally not
50:11
I won't say new. But
50:13
totally unfamiliar is not very popular,
50:15
but so like when it does
50:17
hit the Zeit guys, your kind
50:19
of going off As weird as
50:21
unsettling it is so limited spaces
50:23
it's recognizable but completely alien. And
50:26
the end of this is I can fully agree. The.
50:29
Thing is to I'm. I
50:31
knew a guy. That. Did some
50:33
tag. I could tell he was going somewhere
50:35
when he did a test. Such a thumbs
50:37
up. A new guy was it off time
50:40
and when you do that when that wonder
50:42
what he did tags you heard about a
50:44
guy a heard about a guy and we
50:46
did tag settles then it was. A
50:48
Oh, there's a lot of urban exploration to
50:50
get to these locations. Yeah, and in which
50:53
you can tagged? You mean so you can
50:55
learn? A. Little bit of like these
50:57
weird locations in the city. Or.
51:00
That's when I lied and so like yeah you
51:02
you come across a Locations are just like a
51:04
lot of. Know. I.
51:06
Should go down there One not as off
51:08
horror of her a writer of that's what
51:10
a rumor mill does say you try to
51:13
read like the side of something or whatever
51:15
to tag on inside. The. Gotta find
51:17
like a way to get up. And
51:19
yeah I'm looking at these tags sometimes
51:21
going like what? Spiderman as yeah just
51:23
had our families that have to yes
51:25
and so naturally was a so naturally
51:27
just gonna go and find these weird
51:29
little lie secluded tunnel areas and is
51:31
go. Tag. On that. Afflict
51:33
other clean water tag on and I get
51:36
my tagged six in and now will be
51:38
in trouble on the and is no cameras
51:40
down Here is no nobody else down here
51:42
so I could have been area where they
51:44
like. we're looking to Canada's tag up. Although.
51:47
There is it. Like any mass
51:49
marks. In. Terms of just like. Big.
51:51
Canvas pieces or anything like that which is what you
51:53
would usually see if it was like of. The
51:56
bunch attackers. Going down there.
51:59
So. Know. But like be I mean
52:01
you know you guys young kids are like
52:03
athletes. are you around these in then he
52:05
is coming. Can. To this realm of
52:08
like or that is a blank wall, that like is.
52:10
Secluded. Sure, I'll tag on
52:12
it. I'm curious. been at. You know
52:14
it's interesting as you say that. Is
52:17
looking at the photo or video?
52:19
Whatever it was of Nobility Scooters
52:21
actual tag. It's. Got
52:23
that style to it's. got that art
52:25
style hair days, easy road lines in
52:27
the in the yeah, the tax on
52:30
like this man tags. And what
52:32
does that say? I think that puts another little set
52:34
point in my little theory, but I want to give
52:36
the theory over you now because I think like you
52:38
might be onto something with the idea of like urban
52:40
exploration and tagging this convincingly. Who took
52:42
their tagging to the next degree? They had
52:44
a story to tell with it that also
52:46
then highlighted their signature I I yeah this
52:48
is not only I am a spot I
52:50
sound that I tagged a virgin spot that's
52:53
getting tagged and from but now there's a
52:55
story behind that brings attention to it yet
52:57
and do a tag. They want
52:59
attention. Yeah, I mean that's why they're.
53:01
They. They they create their mark, they treat
53:04
their lives and then and in it's I
53:06
get out there soon as he has been
53:08
like oh that's you know. That.
53:11
Crowns or whatever and the you know
53:13
he tagged on this tree and this
53:15
locations and whatnot and so like. No.
53:17
One. Tags. To not
53:19
be known You know he for your
53:22
persona need tag to be known. In.
53:24
That like. Little. Sphere. And
53:26
so I mean yeah, it doesn't look
53:28
like someone just was like or I
53:31
did my handwriting like it's it's got
53:33
lives to it. It's gusto like. so.
53:36
Saw of hurt Spray right? I
53:38
mean and start. Again,
53:41
I've heard them homocysteine around the
53:43
say, so I'm it. Yummy Urban
53:46
actual heat exploration tank. County go
53:48
hand in hand. Eyes like
53:50
a natural handshake there because just the
53:52
job with easy I do to get
53:54
certain areas near so I get totally
53:56
yeah, You're totally see that they're just
53:59
like they just.air. Tagged it there
54:01
was a chair. There are so my dad are
54:03
like always his posts online. And. Then
54:05
people he i took it ran away with either.
54:07
Like how biggest story here? Yeah feet into the
54:09
sea into it. This. Makes me.
54:12
Want. To make a red web documentary
54:14
for those ideas I never manifest but
54:16
I want to call it tag. You're
54:19
it in a timely manner and exploring
54:21
urban exploration and always like little spaces.
54:23
Do. Their at idol? yeah, they're Federal
54:26
Air. I probably wouldn't feature tagging, but
54:28
I just couldn't resist the title of
54:30
the ass as good. But yet you
54:33
like you know whom? Boom to sit
54:35
on a wooden spoons. It's It's like
54:37
a backlit, all silhouetted out. Like to
54:39
know these people. Who don't know. These
54:42
people. Who. Will just kind
54:44
of materialized them because we will have any
54:46
contacts in that world. But if we did,
54:48
His. Be a great talking to. An.
54:51
Area further contact. Owner
54:54
I don't have a contact denial Lot of
54:56
women oh I dislike. I heard of a
54:58
rare in a hurry with do. A
55:01
safer I will. It has been the
55:03
very interesting compelling story our you rapidly
55:06
as to close the loop ramon both
55:08
conversation and force. I don't have much.
55:11
That. I just went back to the
55:13
original post from Nobility Scooter and read oppose
55:15
tried see the comments and the forcing all
55:18
he really say that. Looking. The
55:20
manhole cover. They discovered that several tools
55:22
will be required in order to gain
55:24
entry and then they may return with
55:26
the necessary equipment and proceeded to on
55:28
both the cover and that's as much
55:30
details. We have some. I call that
55:32
an inconsistency in the narratives and put
55:35
that in the. Tag. Theory
55:37
column. Eric isn't the how because
55:40
you got a sealer from the outside. Them.
55:42
Think they found it. Than. A degree,
55:44
a story out of it. Couldn't agree with. It.
55:48
We'll. Break. And molds
55:50
and adding series to the conversation. We'll
55:52
do it often. know the we know
55:55
that on it works it, it sizzles
55:57
their wits, does explain. How. this
55:59
a rare situation we have high-res
56:01
photos and videos and that kind
56:03
of stuff. I love that. Yeah.
56:06
But even the photos told on the
56:08
author. We got three different styles of
56:10
photos. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, they
56:12
were very stylized photos too. This
56:15
person's about art. Yeah. Mm-hmm. God,
56:18
this was so cool and I'm so happy that you,
56:20
Christian, had experienced this live. I
56:22
think that's what I love so much about
56:24
these internet mysteries is because even if the
56:26
theory, the leading theory, is that it's not
56:29
real. It's so personal. You can feel
56:31
it. You could be a part of it. That's what I
56:33
love so much about and why this podcast exists because internet
56:35
mysteries are just more tangible, more
56:37
intriguing. All right. Well, Fredo, I'll see
56:39
you next week for yet another mystery.
56:43
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