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Ep 1030 | Responding to Andy Stanley’s Message to Conservatives

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Ep 1030 | Responding to Andy Stanley’s Message to Conservatives

Ep 1030 | Responding to Andy Stanley’s Message to Conservatives

Ep 1030 | Responding to Andy Stanley’s Message to Conservatives

Ep 1030 | Responding to Andy Stanley’s Message to Conservatives

Wednesday, 3rd July 2024
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0:01

Andy Stanley calls out

0:03

conservatives who say that

0:05

the Democrat Party and

0:08

Christianity cannot go hand

0:10

in hand. I have

0:13

quite a thorough response to his

0:15

comments in a recent sermon. And

0:18

also, we are going to

0:20

look back at Pride

0:23

Month and go into

0:25

some taboo territory about

0:28

the ideology that

0:30

underpins this community.

0:33

This episode is brought to you by our

0:35

friends at Good Ranchers. Go to goodranchers.com. Use

0:38

code ALI to check out that's goodranchers.com. Code

0:40

ALI. Hey

0:50

guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Wednesday. Hope everyone

0:52

has had a wonderful week so far. If

0:55

it sounds like my

0:58

voice is about an octave lower

1:00

than what it typically is, that

1:02

is because I'm hoarse for some

1:04

reason. I don't really know

1:06

why. I don't feel sick. I just have kind

1:08

of lost my voice over the

1:10

past couple of days. So hopefully

1:13

I will be able to get through this

1:15

episode just fine. But

1:17

bear with me if I maybe have to talk

1:19

a little bit slower or rely on producer

1:21

Brie a little bit more. I don't need

1:23

to apologize for that though. Y'all love when

1:25

I include Brie in the conversation. Before

1:28

we get into the topics that we're going

1:30

to address today, just a couple things. A

1:32

reminder, we've got no show tomorrow for July

1:35

4th. I hope that you enjoy the day

1:37

with your families. I have always loved

1:39

being an American. I am so

1:42

grateful to be an American. I

1:44

am so grateful that I was

1:46

not born anywhere else. That's not

1:48

to say other countries are bad

1:50

or that being born in another

1:53

country is some kind

1:55

of misfortune. But I think

1:57

that we can all acknowledge

1:59

that we who were born,

2:01

born in the U.S. have

2:03

been afforded particular blessings for

2:05

which we can be so

2:07

incredibly grateful. I love

2:10

the foundation of this country. I

2:12

love the ideas upon which this

2:14

country was founded. I love so

2:16

much of our history that really

2:19

does make America exceptional. I know

2:21

that there has been a war

2:25

against that idea that America

2:28

is special, that we have

2:30

anything uniquely good about us

2:32

or about our founding,

2:35

but that war really

2:37

is so misguided.

2:40

There's also been a battle against

2:43

this idea that we should put

2:45

our country and the interests and

2:47

the well-being of our country first.

2:50

You've probably seen a lot of professing

2:52

Christians fight against that idea, saying that

2:54

it is arrogant, that it is against

2:56

the kingdom of God, that because the

2:59

church of God includes people

3:01

of all different kinds of cultures

3:03

and countries, that we should not

3:05

put America first. But let us

3:07

just remember that God gave us

3:09

countries. He gave us borders.

3:11

He gave us governments. He gave us laws.

3:15

The languages, the cultures, the

3:17

differences that we have among

3:19

people groups are not

3:22

in and of themselves bad

3:24

things. They provide order

3:27

in this life that we need

3:29

to survive and thrive. This idea

3:31

of being a global citizen, of

3:33

putting the interests and the needs

3:36

of everyone everywhere at the

3:38

same level, it's just an impossibility

3:41

that actually creates a lot of

3:43

disorder, a lot of chaos. That's

3:45

why I'm against open

3:48

border liberal immigration policy because

3:50

it causes disorder. It causes chaos. It's

3:52

actually not compassionate at all. It harms

3:54

the most vulnerable. The very people we

3:57

say that we are trying to get

3:59

to. trying to help when we open

4:01

up the border. And

4:04

so I am unapologetically a Christian

4:07

who is so thankful to be

4:09

born in America and

4:11

to say that, yes, I care

4:13

about the well-being and the interests

4:16

of the American people before

4:20

the well-being and the interests of

4:22

other countries. Yes, all people

4:24

are made in the image of God. Yes, the

4:26

kingdom of God is made up of all kinds

4:29

of people. And when

4:31

we get to the other side of

4:33

eternity, we will be linking arms with

4:35

our brothers and sisters in Christ of

4:38

all different skin colors and of all

4:40

different kinds of backgrounds. And that above

4:42

anything else, of course, is our highest

4:45

allegiance, is our

4:47

utmost citizenship, if you

4:49

will. Our greatest alliance,

4:51

of course that is true. But here in

4:53

this life, which matters because we

4:56

are in a physical temporal context

4:58

right now that God has

5:01

providentially placed us in,

5:03

we have to care about

5:05

the country, the state, the

5:07

communities in which God has

5:09

purposely put us. We

5:12

care about the politics of our communities

5:14

and country. We care

5:17

about the interests and the

5:19

needs of our fellow citizens

5:21

because, again, God has placed

5:23

us here, not arbitrarily, not

5:25

accidentally, but on purpose.

5:27

You are on this tiny spot

5:30

of the universe, this tiny speck

5:32

of eternity right now

5:34

for a reason. So are your

5:36

children and so are your children's

5:38

children, just as Israel, as exiles.

5:42

In Jeremiah 29, we're tasked with

5:44

making the world around them better,

5:47

the community around them better while they

5:49

were in exile. So Christians who are

5:51

exiles in this life are

5:54

called to make the world around us

5:56

better, to make it better than

5:59

how we feel. found it once we

6:01

leave. Part of that is

6:04

absolutely politics. What

6:06

do we always say? Politics matter because

6:08

policy matters because people matter.

6:11

People matter to God and

6:13

therefore people matter to us.

6:16

And so just remember that as we

6:19

hear this very vague,

6:21

morally relativistic language from a

6:23

lot of professing Christians that

6:26

we don't need to care

6:28

about politics, that that's so-called

6:30

empire or Christian nationalism that

6:32

we shouldn't involve ourselves at

6:34

all and that none of

6:36

this really matters all that

6:38

much because Jesus is coming

6:40

back. Jesus is absolutely coming

6:43

back, praise God, but

6:45

he's not here yet. He's not here

6:47

yet, okay? We

6:49

are here in this life. We've

6:51

got work to do and

6:54

God is sovereign over all of it. Political

6:56

wins are not our number one priority

6:59

because we know Jesus has the victory

7:01

in the end, but what are we tasked

7:04

to do for his glory? Doing

7:06

the next right thing in

7:08

excellence with faith and

7:10

for the glory of God. Doing

7:13

the next right thing with faith in

7:15

excellence and for the glory of God.

7:18

I kind of change up the preposition

7:20

sometimes, but it's all the same spirit.

7:23

So all that to say, happy 4th

7:25

of July. There's a lot of good,

7:27

bad and ugly in America, but let's

7:29

thank God for the good and celebrate

7:31

our friends and our family and the

7:33

freedom that we have to express our

7:35

faith tomorrow and going into the

7:37

weekend. Also, we

7:39

will have replay episodes next week,

7:42

Monday and Tuesday. Just

7:44

FYI, on that we're taking a little

7:46

bit of a break as a team,

7:48

but we'll have a new episode Wednesday

7:50

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10:03

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right. I saw this clip going around

11:23

on acts of Andy Stanley, uh, talking

11:26

about politics in a recent sermon. We've talked

11:28

about Andy Stanley several times. I know many

11:30

of you go to his church. There

11:32

are certainly a lot of people in

11:34

my life that I love, that I

11:36

respect so much, um, that go to

11:38

Andy Stanley's church. I am

11:41

not trying to, I'm certainly not trying to

11:43

attack you and I'm not even trying to

11:45

attack Andy Stanley. Sorry. Just lost my voice

11:47

a little bit. I'm not trying to attack

11:50

Andy Stanley when he says something

11:52

publicly that seems pertinent to the things

11:54

that we talk about on this show.

11:57

I think it's really important to respond.

18:00

take policies from both sides. And,

18:02

you know, Tim Keller, who I

18:04

really respect and in

18:06

a lot of ways and who I

18:08

learned from a lot while he was

18:11

alive, he

18:13

talked about this a lot, that it

18:15

seemed that that should be the Christian

18:17

position, that kind of like third way

18:19

of taking things from the right and

18:21

the left. Look, I also

18:23

think Christians exist out of America's

18:25

political binary of Republican and Democrat,

18:28

but it's not because we should

18:30

be in the middle of them

18:32

in my view. It is actually

18:34

because we are way more conservative

18:36

according to scripture than the current

18:39

Republican party. Of course, like

18:41

we are going to have a staunch view

18:44

on marriage and sexuality, even

18:46

on things like freedom

18:51

of worship, freedom of

18:53

religion, maybe even on things

18:55

like immigration. That mainstream Republicans

18:58

aren't going to have. Now,

19:02

is there room for good

19:04

faith disagreement on

19:07

some issues that are political in

19:09

America today? Yes, I do. I

19:12

think that there can be good

19:14

faith disagreement on economic issues, even

19:17

good faith disagreement on

19:19

the right immigration policy.

19:23

I think that there can be

19:25

some good faith disagreement on like

19:27

what law enforcement looks like, in

19:30

what ways the justice system functions.

19:33

Again, I would say those

19:35

disagreements have a limited scope,

19:37

but I absolutely think that

19:39

two Christians who believe that

19:41

the Bible is inerrant and

19:43

authoritative and should inform our

19:45

worldview, should inform how we

19:47

see political and social issues

19:49

can disagree in good faith

19:51

on some of those things.

19:54

But some things Christians

19:56

cannot in good faith disagree on. We

19:58

just can't. We cannot in good faith

20:01

disagree on abortion. We cannot

20:03

in good faith disagree on

20:05

the definition of gender as male and female,

20:10

and the definition of marriage as

20:12

between a man and a woman.

20:14

These are Genesis 1 existential issues

20:17

explicitly covered in Scripture, and

20:19

thus advocating for the positions that

20:22

God very clearly articulates in

20:25

His Word. Remember what God

20:27

designs? He also defines.

20:30

It is not within our authority to

20:32

define them either legally

20:35

or not in any other

20:38

way. Advocating for those

20:40

positions is not pushing a theocracy,

20:43

as we've addressed many times, and I'm

20:45

not saying He's saying that, but just

20:47

to kind of push back against what

20:49

I know that some of you might

20:51

be thinking out there. It is simply

20:53

to do what Christians have always done.

20:55

That's one. But also to

20:57

do what everyone else is doing. Everyone

21:00

brings their full belief system to the

21:02

voting booth, to the school board meeting,

21:04

to the curriculum

21:07

writing, to their job, to their

21:09

government position. Secular progressives do that

21:11

every day. There are

21:14

pseudo-religious tenets of what gender is and

21:16

having some kind of gendered spirit that

21:18

is different than your biology.

21:21

Their beliefs about even

21:23

the climate and

21:25

economics and the oppressed versus oppressor,

21:28

many of those are not found in fact.

21:30

They're found in belief. They're found in a

21:33

faith that they have. They bring the full

21:35

scope of their faith to every part of

21:37

the public sphere, and yet Christian conservatives are

21:40

told that we are the only ones that

21:42

cannot do that, or else we are theocratic

21:45

fascists. Again, that's not what

21:47

Andy Stanley said here, but many people

21:49

who kind of share the sentiment that

21:51

he just shared say that kind

21:53

of thing. That, okay, we can believe these

21:55

things personally as Christians, but we don't have

21:57

to vote in accordance with what God's word

21:59

is. of

34:00

Justice under Joe Biden labels you a

34:03

terrorist. You'll remember that in October 2021, Attorney

34:06

General Merrick Garland wrote a

34:08

memorandum directing the FBI and

34:11

U.S. attorney's offices to investigate

34:13

a quote unquote disturbing trend

34:15

of alleged harassment and threats

34:17

to school boards. This

34:20

was by the direction of

34:23

a teacher's union who said that

34:25

their school board members were being

34:28

harangued and harassed by parents

34:31

who were simply articulating their

34:33

concerns about boys in girls'

34:35

bathrooms and the straight up

34:37

pornography that was in

34:40

their children's classrooms. If

34:42

you as a conservative Christian or even

34:44

just concerned parent, you

34:47

sound the alarm on that you

34:49

are labeled by the Department of

34:51

Justice a terrorist. What happens when

34:53

you offer pregnant women free resources

34:56

and information about adoption? Your

34:58

clinic gets firebombed. Remember

35:01

that after the Dobbs decision was released

35:03

when Roe v. Wade was overturned between

35:06

May and October of 2022, more

35:08

than 100 crisis pregnancy

35:10

centers, pro-life organizations, and pro-life

35:12

churches were attacked. Some

35:15

more than once. During

35:17

the week of the Dobbs decision, at least

35:20

38 churches and 58

35:22

pro-life clinics across the country

35:24

have been firebombed, smashed,

35:28

ransacked, or vandalized with

35:30

pro-abortion graffiti and threatening

35:33

messages. What

35:35

happens when you refuse

35:38

to get an experimental vaccine that

35:40

violates your conscience? No

35:42

kidney transplant for you. You

35:45

remember the parents of Yulia

35:47

Hicks. She was a 14-year-old. Her

35:49

parents came on this

35:51

podcast. They didn't want

35:53

their daughter to get the COVID vaccine.

35:56

And so she was refused by Duke

35:59

University, Ha Ha. hospital, a

36:01

life-saving kidney transplant. Also,

36:03

Lelani Lutali, she was also denied

36:05

a kidney transplant by Colorado Health

36:08

System because she refused to get

36:10

the vaccine for religious

36:13

reasons. That was October 2021. What

36:18

happens when you as a parent, as we've

36:20

already noted, we've had several of these parents

36:23

on this podcast, when you as a parent disagree?

36:27

When your child says, yeah,

36:29

I know that I was born Sally, but I

36:32

want to be Jack. I

36:34

want to go on testosterone. I want

36:36

to get my healthy breasts

36:38

cut off. What happens to you,

36:40

Christian conservative parent? The

36:42

state shows up at your door

36:45

and takes your child away. Same

36:47

thing happened to Yaeli Martinez in

36:50

California. What happened to Yaeli? After

36:53

the state took custody of her when she decided that

36:55

she wanted to be a boy and her mom wouldn't

36:57

go along with it, she

36:59

committed suicide. Conservative

37:04

Christians are routinely met with

37:06

the most vile name calling

37:08

and threats you can

37:10

imagine. We are routinely

37:13

depicted by the media as

37:15

stupid and selfish, as

37:19

killers of grandma

37:22

because many Christian

37:24

conservatives didn't believe

37:27

in the constitutionality

37:31

or the science behind mask

37:33

mandates or vaccine mandates.

37:36

We're routinely accused of being a

37:38

terroristic threat and the

37:41

sole obstacle standing in the way

37:43

of the survival of democracy. We

37:47

were, especially during the Trump era,

37:50

routinely called Nazi racists.

37:53

So don't give me this

37:56

nonsense about Democrats whose

37:59

agenda is a again objectively

38:02

evil being

38:04

the victims. Don't

38:07

do it. I'm not buying it. Who

38:11

is routinely

38:13

castigated, criticized, and

38:15

condemned and belittled?

38:19

Told that we are just panicking.

38:21

We're spreading division and fear and

38:23

paranoia about things. Oh

38:25

no, the legalization of gay marriage. Is

38:28

it going to lead to other kinds

38:30

of depravity and debauchery? Of course

38:33

not. That's just a slippery slope

38:36

fallacy. Sounds like

38:38

more people should have listened to

38:40

Christian conservatives then. Maybe

38:43

more people should be listening to us

38:45

now. All

38:47

right, on that note, let's see

38:50

just how far our country

38:53

has slipped since we have

38:55

accepted sexual depravity

38:57

and sexual immorality as not just

39:00

the norm but a thing

39:02

that is worth celebrating

39:04

and glorifying and even

39:06

unfortunately and very disturbingly

39:09

including children in. So Pride

39:11

Month is over. Thank the

39:13

Lord. Pride Month is over.

39:16

But I want to talk about some things that are

39:19

really taboo that we've

39:21

obviously talked about what

39:23

the Bible's got to say about

39:25

sexual immorality, the definition of marriage,

39:27

the definition of gender many times.

39:30

No one could ever accuse this

39:32

show of being cowardly or trying

39:34

to soften the truth at all

39:37

when it comes to that. All glory to

39:39

God, by the way, for

39:44

any honesty that anything that is

39:46

true that has ever been shared

39:48

on this show. But there

39:50

is some territory that we haven't really

39:52

gone into before. And I think some

39:54

of the best insight that I've

39:57

gotten into. any

40:00

lifestyle that glorifies sexual

40:03

promiscuity or sexual immorality

40:05

is from Beckett Cook from Christopher

40:08

Yewan because they are people who

40:10

have now become Christians and have

40:12

repented of the sin of homosexuality,

40:16

but they did live that life for a

40:19

long time and they know exactly

40:21

what it is like and

40:23

it is taboo even among conservative Christians

40:25

to say some of the things that

40:28

they have said and I think

40:31

it's important to highlight what,

40:33

for example, Beckett Cook has

40:35

said that when he was

40:37

living as a gay

40:40

man on the gay

40:42

scene, if you will, he

40:45

has said that that life for

40:47

the most part, for the most

40:49

part, centered itself

40:52

on sex and drugs, on

40:55

sex and drugs and lust and

40:58

partying and promiscuity

41:00

that the moral limits are

41:03

very blurred. I think we

41:05

think of modern family and

41:07

we think, well, that's,

41:09

you know, that's exactly what it's

41:11

like and they are

41:14

two people who essentially have the

41:16

same, you know, sexual values that

41:19

we do. They just have

41:21

a different orientation and

41:24

while that may be true sometimes,

41:26

I don't think that is generally

41:28

characteristic of

41:32

what the LGBTQ

41:35

lifestyle entails,

41:37

honestly, and if we

41:40

look at some of the pride

41:42

parades that occurred over the past

41:44

month, I think that we see

41:46

that very obviously. Now, I do

41:48

think that pride was more subdued

41:51

this year. There

41:53

could be a variety of reasons for that. We

41:55

explored it on a previous episode. I think

41:58

it's a good thing, but the difference is that the debauchery

42:00

that happens at pride parades is

42:02

still on display. And I

42:04

think it's just important to think about, like,

42:07

are there any pride parades that you've

42:09

either attended, I've never attended one, or

42:11

that you've ever seen footage from that

42:14

is just a normal parade, like

42:17

other people have. Celebrating other kinds of

42:19

things. Every single

42:22

pride parade that I have seen, I'm not

42:24

just talking about from conservative reporters. I'm talking

42:27

about from like, you

42:29

know, Scott Weiner, who is

42:31

that state senator in California,

42:33

like when a leftist post

42:35

his participation in a pride

42:37

parade. What you see is

42:40

very dark and disturbing and

42:44

blatant sexuality. Like at the

42:46

very least you have

42:49

almost nude men in BDSM

42:51

gear. Every

42:54

little bit of pride footage

42:56

that I've seen has some

42:58

kind of blatant outright sexuality

43:01

with sexual paraphernalia and

43:04

weird disturbing interaction with

43:07

child participants. If it really was, if

43:09

pride was really just about love, which

43:11

is what we hear that it's really

43:14

just about love. Then

43:16

you would think that the parades would just

43:18

be like your 4th of July parade or

43:21

a parade celebrating homecoming or anything

43:24

else with some rainbow face paint

43:26

and some rainbow flags. If

43:29

you want people to think that

43:31

your movement is about love, then

43:33

maybe your most

43:35

prominent celebrations should

43:38

not be demonstrations of

43:40

pure lust. Because

43:42

that's what these pride parades are.

43:45

They are celebrations of pure lust,

43:49

of a kind of depravity

43:51

and immorality that really should,

43:53

they should make us sad. They should break our

43:56

hearts because these are people made in the image

43:58

of God that are pursuing. Bring

54:00

your kids. Even

54:02

those events that I've seen footage of at the very

54:04

least have Fat Men in bondage gear or

54:07

drag queens twerking. And let me just

54:09

say, let me

54:11

just say, if you are a parent

54:13

bringing your kid to a thing like

54:15

this, what the HE Double Hockey Sticks

54:18

is wrong with you? What

54:20

is wrong with you? That

54:22

is a dereliction of duty as

54:25

a parent. You are supposed to protect your

54:27

child. You're supposed to steward their heart and

54:29

mind. And this is

54:31

going to move us, what I'm about to say

54:33

is going to move us into the to the

54:35

next part of this conversation. And

54:38

then we're going to close out because I know that we're already

54:41

going a little long today. But

54:43

I think and I'd be interested to see

54:45

if there's data to support this. I

54:48

think that there is probably a connection between

54:50

how early a child is

54:54

introduced to inappropriate

54:57

sexual themes and sexual

54:59

content and

55:01

that child being sexually

55:04

and gender confused later on

55:06

in life. I

55:09

bet the earlier they are introduced

55:12

to sexuality, the

55:14

more likely they are to

55:17

be very confused about

55:20

their attractions, about their

55:22

identity. In

55:24

their teenage and adult years. And we

55:26

already know that there seems

55:29

to be a big crossover

55:31

between people who were sexually

55:33

abused and people

55:35

who saw pornography at an early age

55:38

and those who at least

55:40

are confused about their

55:43

gender. And so I just don't think

55:45

that's a coincidence that I saw this

55:47

tweet from someone who

55:49

himself identifies as gay. I've

55:51

even seen him say that

55:53

he identifies as transgender and

55:56

he is in a relationship with the man. I'm

55:58

not sure if it's. I'm

56:01

not sure if they've had a wedding,

56:03

but he is in a long-term relationship with

56:05

a man and he's conservative in many ways.

56:07

And he said the quiet

56:09

part out loud that you're really not allowed

56:11

to talk about when it

56:14

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56:16

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this is from Chad Felix Green on X.

57:19

He said, and this is again, this

57:22

is explicit. He said, every man I

57:24

had sex with when I was 14, knew

57:27

beforehand I was 14. LGBTQ

57:30

culture has no socially imposed

57:32

boundaries on it. They don't

57:34

police themselves. They're too consumed

57:36

with protecting their political causes

57:38

and shaming right-wing bigots. Teen

57:41

sex work is the norm in

57:43

LGBTQ centers. Trans icons glamorize

57:45

being prostitutes as teens, and it's

57:47

viewed as a rite of passage.

57:50

13 to 17 year olds are a high HIV

57:53

risk group in this crowd. Progressives

57:55

view children as sexual beings

57:57

and independent from their own.

58:00

parents, this is a culture, one

58:03

protected from scrutiny. Again, this person is

58:06

gay. He's in a gay relationship right

58:08

now. This person is not a Christian.

58:10

He's not saying this from a Christian

58:12

perspective. He's just saying what

58:14

he has seen to be true.

58:16

By the way, not that I follow

58:19

Milo Yiannopoulos, but a few years

58:21

ago, he said the same thing.

58:23

And I mean, he was silenced so quick.

58:26

He said that he said the same thing as

58:28

a gay man, that he was basically groomed as

58:31

a teenager. And he said that that's normal for

58:33

gay men. I think

58:35

that's something a lot of people

58:37

know, but don't want to talk

58:39

about. That pederasty is pretty

58:42

common in this crowd.

58:44

Now, is that to say that

58:46

it only happens in this part

58:48

of the world? Absolutely not. We

58:50

just got done talking about an

58:52

evangelical pastor last week that

58:54

prayed upon a 12 year old girl

58:56

and was allowed to remain in leadership.

58:59

For 40 plus years, I'm not afraid to

59:01

call that out or to call it out

59:03

wherever it exists. But the point is, is

59:05

that this group is

59:07

very often shielded from scrutiny, that

59:11

we are not allowed to say that

59:13

one form of sexual depravity usually leads to

59:15

other forms of sexual depravity, too.

59:18

His thread goes on to say in gay

59:20

male culture, it's viewed as a kind of

59:22

social acceptance and kindness older men took in

59:24

teenage runaways, like Harvey Milk, by the way,

59:27

treating them as adults. Many left wing

59:29

gay men recall these first encounters fondly

59:32

and see themselves as welcoming the next

59:34

generation in a sex positive environment. He

59:37

says in previous generations, when a teenage

59:39

boy ventured out to cruising areas or

59:41

gay bars, this was how he found

59:44

himself in his new community ostracized from

59:46

normal society, they'll argue. It's become tradition

59:48

as left wing progressivism has advanced, quote

59:50

unquote, sex positive is the new norm.

59:53

For queer activists, sex is an

59:55

expression of resistance and social rebellion.

59:57

Left wing psychology has fully embraced

59:59

the He

1:04:00

knew that kids needed a mother

1:04:02

and a father. He knew that

1:04:04

women and children were protected by

1:04:06

the institution of family and marriage.

1:04:08

God's moral limits are best. They

1:04:10

lead to individual flourishing. They lead

1:04:12

to societal flourishing. Christians have got

1:04:14

to be braver in standing up

1:04:16

and saying, no, that is wrong.

1:04:19

That is wrong. We cannot be

1:04:21

blinded by toxic empathy that refuses

1:04:24

to see things as

1:04:26

they are. So let us not allow this

1:04:28

to be taboo anymore. Yes, love your neighbor.

1:04:30

Every single person is made in the image

1:04:32

of God. No one is too far gone.

1:04:35

We've all fallen short of

1:04:38

the glory of God and we

1:04:40

need His grace as a gift

1:04:42

to be redeemed. But let that

1:04:44

not make us cowardly in

1:04:46

speaking out against that which is

1:04:48

evil. Let us always be ambassadors

1:04:50

of that which is good, right

1:04:52

and true. All right, that's all

1:04:55

we've got time for today. And like

1:04:57

I said, no new episodes

1:04:59

coming up. Until next Tuesday, some replays

1:05:01

coming up. We will be back with

1:05:03

a brand new episode next Wednesday. Have

1:05:05

a wonderful 4th of July and a

1:05:08

safe, happy weekend.

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