Daniel interviews Mark “Blu” Lambert. This is Daniel’s first interview with anyone for the podcast. This interview is where it all began. Mark discusses being shot 5 times by the police, his first term and second term, Project Rebound (this program is now available outside of the Bay area), and the culture of death. Armed burglary, terroristic threats. St Nikolas, sober living, addiction, alcoholism, BA in psychology, San Francisco University, The Urban Ministry Institute, Warden Martel, college dorm, Goon Squad, Verizon, heroin balls the size of baseballs, Mr, Van Pelt, Inmate Youth Offender Program, taxi driver, Inmate Day Labor, dorm next to visiting, Fire camp behind the fence, John Irwin, restorative justice, Inmate Family Council, former inmate at President Obama’s State of the Union, education is a key, Scott Budnick, bad social model, second class citizens, Do inmates matter? Does society have a greater moral responsibility? Human life devalued.

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